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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and this is the drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 3: Audio Network and Matt. We did a four round mock

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Speaker 3: draft yesterday. Yeah, it was kind of fun and some

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Speaker 1: The thing is that you mentioned as an opening segment

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Speaker 3: And you know, when we're when we're talking, part of

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Speaker 1: That's believable. You know, Like I've even thrown out the

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Speaker 3: But well, DeVante Adams was on Kay Adams Show today

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Speaker 3: You're not You're not DeVante Adams, You're not.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen Kenneth Grant of Michigan, the defensive lineman, goes to

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Speaker 3: The seventeen Princely human edge rusher out of Ole Miss.

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Speaker 3: Murphy hasn't worked out, No, robber just had the injury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if he's a cap casually too. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Eighteen Luther Burden, the third wide receiver from Missouri,

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Speaker 3: Potentially they're gonna be They're probably going to move on. Yeah, no, kidd,

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Speaker 3: I mean and Smith and Jig was the dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Nineteen Ashton genty, running back out of Boise, goes

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Speaker 1: I like it. I mean, we get one more year

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Speaker 3: at twenty. This is just the names anyway, Okay, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Twenty Colston Loveland, the tight end out of Michigan, goes

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Speaker 3: Twenty one Shamar Stewart, the defensive tackle from Texas A

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Speaker 1: Okay, a lot different than Clancy or Beya.

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Speaker 3: Now, remember the Steelers have twenty one.

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Speaker 1: That's actually their spot. Yeah. J D.

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Speaker 1: Okay, don't know a ton about him. I mean I

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Speaker 3: Twenty three Tyler Warren, the tight end out of Penn

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean back seven I would think is a priority,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I don't know how you count

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Speaker 3: Landon Jackson, the edge rusher out of Arkansas goes at

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Speaker 1: Could there's some I know the USC like a lot

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Speaker 1: And play around. He's bigger than Yeah, he's got some size.

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Speaker 1: Could see that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they could wait on Stanley's up.

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Speaker 3: Stanley's up, so is so is uh McCarry?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's a lot of line change.

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Speaker 3: In two years and they don't have much cap space.

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Speaker 3: Walter Nolan, the defensive lineman out of Old miss goes

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Speaker 1: Put in next to DJ Reader. It's a lot of beef,

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Speaker 3: If you like the corner, if you like those corners,

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Speaker 1: It's all the stuff we need to figure out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a great defensive line draft, it is.

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Speaker 3: We just think we just rolled through that and there

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. A lot of puzzle pieces need to start

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Speaker 1: falling into place here for free agencies and signing your

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Speaker 1: It's a great time a year though. I love this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. So anyways, that's just a little mock

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Speaker 3: the NFL scouting combine here when we come back on

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Speaker 3: some of the names that interest us that are on

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Speaker 3: We'll do that when we come back. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Williamson And as I mentioned, the Senior Bowl roster has

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Speaker 3: been set. Yeah, and obviously there'll be some changes here

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Speaker 3: when guys get hurt or guys decide they're too hurt

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Speaker 1: There's legit quarterbacks. There's been some Senior Bowls, Like, none

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So this year it's Jackson Dart from Mississippi,

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Speaker 1: Maybe none of those guys were super high picks, but

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Speaker 3: You know now, they're all guys are gonna get drafted

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Oregon. Yeah, Like these are big time programs.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to watch much college football to run

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the one with the most upside.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Somebody asked me today on the comments about Will Howard,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a concern. Yeah, it's not his strength.

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Speaker 1: And all that. But there's old miss quarterbacks in that

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Speaker 3: I watched the last was one of the last games

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Speaker 3: And maybe you go back. A lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: You know in depth process.

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Speaker 3: Don't know much about him, but.

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Speaker 1: think there's all shapes and sizes. Sene Bowl is not

443
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Speaker 1: the best evaluation for running back. They don't break tackles,

444
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 1: but you do get the body type them and see

445
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 1: him move around and.

446
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 3: See the burst, how they catch the ball exactly? Can

447
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 3: they blitzes.

448
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: And some protection drills to Yeah. The linemen are the

449
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 1: ones that are stealing the show from what I Yeah.

450
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the wide receiver group, there's some guys here

451
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 3: that are interesting. There are more mid round guys.

452
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't think there's stars in this group.

453
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,120
Speaker 3: Elic yaman Ore from Stanford. That's a name to watch.

454
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 3: I think he's sweet. U about him yesterday. He's a

455
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 3: nice player. Jack Stayler Traits. Jack Beck from TCU is

456
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,919
Speaker 3: another guy that I think. He's the guy who had

457
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Speaker 3: a brother die in the attack. Yeah, but he's a

458
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 3: big you know, he's got some got some out there.

459
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 3: Pat Bryant from Illinois, Jamir Dyke from Florida, de Quon

460
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 3: Felton from Virginia Tech, Ty Felton from Maryland, Jayden Higgins

461
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 3: from Iowa State, Tess Johnson from Oregon, Jalen Lane from

462
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Speaker 3: Virginia Tech, Jaylen Noel from Iowa State, Xavier Rostropo from Miami,

463
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 3: Jalen Royals from Utah State.

464
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Speaker 1: I like him, say, he's gonna be probably one. I'm

465
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: looking at most of that.

466
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Speaker 3: Group Arion Smith from Georgia and Kyle Williams from Washington State.

467
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 1: Now, this is a good group to distinguish themselves. Yeah,

468
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: you can run flat out.

469
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: These are guys that are you're looking at around two

470
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 3: three type guys.

471
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Speaker 1: That Yeah, I'm sure some of those guys even drift

472
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: into the fourth and fifth when but there's a lot

473
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: of draftable players there. Yeah, but they'll just think the

474
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 1: couple will really shine that week.

475
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Speaker 3: Tight end you're looking at Elijah Rojo from Miami, Gavin

476
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 3: Bartholomew from pitt Jake Brings Brings Stool from Clemson.

477
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: CJ.

478
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 3: Dipp Ray from Alabama, Harold Fanning Junior from Bowling Green

479
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: Super Productive.

480
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: Were talking about him a lot.

481
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: There, Terrence Ferguson from Oregon, Jack Jackson Howes from Georgia's Tech,

482
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: Gunner Helm from Texas, Malakai Montevo from u C l A,

483
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: and Mason Taylor from LSU.

484
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: That's a lot of tight ends, a lot of tight ends. Yeah,

485
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 1: and it's supposedly a deep and rich at the top

486
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: tight end class in the stronger position. Yeah.

487
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see the Bowling Green kid though. Yeaheah,

488
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 3: it's the same thing like you coming from Bowling Green.

489
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: Oh he likes set records, Yeah, yeah, offensive line yout

490
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: Anthony Belton, Logan from NC State, Logan Brown from Kansas,

491
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 3: Josh Connelly from Oregon, Johnny Cornelius from Oregon, this one

492
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: Ursery from Minnesota is going to be there. I'm just

493
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 3: going to hit the big names on this.

494
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: Because there's some potential first round picks.

495
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: Y Wyatt Millam from West Virginia is going to be there. Yeah,

496
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: he's nice player. Emery Jones from LSU is going to

497
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Speaker 3: be there.

498
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 1: One on one, big guy stuffs going to be fun.

499
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack Nelson from Wisconsin, Jonah, say another name, the

500
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 3: kid from Arizona. Yeah, the Arizona Kid seven and a

501
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: big guard master type. Jared Wilson from Georgia. Carson Vincent

502
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 3: from Alabama State's another one. That's another he's small Alabama

503
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: A and M. I should say, okay, they he's big,

504
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: you know, small school guys. And then Gray's Abel from

505
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 3: North Dakota State is going to be there.

506
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: So good. He's a nasty finisher type dude. Yeah yeah,

507
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: you were excited about him.

508
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: And keep an eye on that interior defensive line. This

509
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: is where the stars are here at the Senior Bowl

510
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: of Year.

511
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna fall in love with one

512
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: or two of them and end up mocklingelers. I can

513
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: already predict the future on this one right while.

514
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: So you got Darius Alexander from Toledo. I need to

515
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 3: do more homework on him. Yeah yeah, yaha. Black from Iowa,

516
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: Jamari Calbell from Oregon, Alfred Collins from Texas, Josh Palmer

517
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: Farmer from Florida State, Ty Hamilton from Ohio State, Cam

518
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 3: Jackson from Florida, Walter Nolan from Mississippi.

519
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: Omar the best player there. Yeah, all said and done.

520
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: You know Omar Norman Lott from Tennessee, Anias Peebles from

521
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech, Schamar Turner from Texas, A and M and

522
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: Dian Walker from Kentucky.

523
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be really interesting is.

524
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: A mountain of a man.

525
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I don't see him mocked in the first

526
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: round anymore. Yeah, but you started talking about the second round.

527
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: A guy like that for the Steelers. I mean one

528
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: of these three sixty that can move type of dudes.

529
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't always line up at the nose either. Yeah.

530
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: They'll play some end and you know, the interesting guy,

531
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: but he's gonna stand out.

532
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: He's gonna stand out, all right. Uh. The edge rushers, Uh,

533
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: looking here at that group. You got Vernon Broughton from Texas,

534
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 3: Jordan Birch from Oregon. Uh, Donovan Useekra from Boston College.

535
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: He's a good edge rusher.

536
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had a good career.

537
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: Mike Green from Marshall. Another guy was really yeah, very explosive,

538
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: tyron Ingram Dawkins from Georgia, Jared Ivy from Mississippi, Landon

539
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: Jackson from Arkansas. We just talked about him his segmentary

540
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: six seven ninety. I just wonder if he's a four

541
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: three end.

542
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

543
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure.

544
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a stand up outside linebacker type.

545
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 3: I don't think so, right, Uh, Savon Jones from l

546
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 3: s u Jah Joyner from Minnesota, Kyle Canard from South Carolina,

547
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: Ola olejo Ole Joe from u C l A, Ty

548
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Robinson from Nebraska, t J. Sanders from South Carolina. It's

549
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: nice player. Nick Scourton from Texas A and M. We

550
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 3: just did a mock draft there and he was one

551
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 3: like the top twelve pick. Baron Sorel from Texas, Josiah

552
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: Stewart from Michigan, Shamar Stewart from Texas A and M.

553
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: So you get three of these three Texas A and

554
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: M front seven guys, Princely uh, Emma Jumelin from Mississippi, Yeah,

555
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: and David Walker from Central Arkansas.

556
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: I've heard really good things about Walker too. I mean

557
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: He's a really physical, destroying, bad competition guy.

558
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Which is what you want to see. Oh yeah, if

559
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: you're playing in a smaller place, you better.

560
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: Oh then if you hang in Mobile, that's a huge, huge,

561
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: huge right linebacker.

562
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: Okay. Eugenisante from Auburn, Jeffrey Bossa from Oregon, Shamar James.

563
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: Boss is the one I think people were most excited about.

564
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably the best of the group. Shamar James

565
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: from Florida, Demetrius Knight Junior from South Carolina, Cody Lindenberg

566
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 3: from Minnesota, Nick Martin from Oklahoma State.

567
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: Real quick, I was just reading up on Lindenberg. He's

568
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: on the Feldman Freak List, Okay. I mean it's like

569
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: a two hundred and forty five pound dude too, so

570
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: he may really stand out as a mover. Yeah.

571
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: Nick Martin from Oklahoma State has gotten quite a bit

572
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: of a pub Jaylen McLeod from Auburn, Sameo Mandon junior

573
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: from Georgia, Colin Oliver from Oklahoma State, ty Tyrene Pyle

574
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: from Rutgers, Kaarine Reid from Utah, and Carson Schwelsinger from UCLA.

575
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Sealers would be in that market.

576
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so, not really. Wilson was a Steel

577
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: last year.

578
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, of course, sixth seventh round. You

579
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: might grab somebody like that, might play special teams white

580
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: Mark Robinson first bought.

581
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: Or well the way Mark Robinson had a nice year

582
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: on special teams.

583
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, he's he took a step forward to

584
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: a huge step forward.

585
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, cornerback b J. Adams from UCF heard.

586
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: Good things about him too. He's a big guy, big guy.

587
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: Trey Amos from Mississippi, Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky another one

588
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: that's the thought of. Yeah, Tommy Hill from Nebraska, Balal

589
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: Cooney Cone from Western Michigan, Mac McWilliams from UCF, Jacob

590
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: Parrish from k State, Darian Porter from Iowa State, Quincy

591
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: Riley from Louisville, Jalen Smith from usc Upton Stout from

592
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: Western Kentucky, Dorian Strong from Virginia Tech, and Azir AZERI A.

593
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 3: Thomas from Florida State.

594
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I think he's more of a man the man

595
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: type guy too, So I'm I need to know those

596
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: names better. But that's certainly gonna be a real focus

597
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: of mine. And we're down there.

598
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard some read some good stuff about Porter

599
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: and uh Dorian Strong as well, and.

600
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: I saw people say it's a pretty good mobile corner

601
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: class overall. Yeah.

602
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the kid from Kentucky's got some got some skill. Uh.

603
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: The safety position got Billy Bauman from Oklahoma, Sebastian Castro

604
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: from Iowa, Maxim Hook from Toledo, Rayon Lane from Navy,

605
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 3: Andrew mccoba from Texas. He's a nice player, Caleb Ranassaw

606
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: from Tulane, Lathan Ransom from Ohio State, Jonas Sanker from.

607
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: Real Quick on Ransom, he's kind of like the Clark

608
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: to Paula Maloo. Yeah, like they have that stud safety,

609
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: but he's the one that aligns everybody. He's the quarterback

610
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: on the back end. Yeah.

611
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: Uh, Jonas Sanker from Virginia, Dante Trader from Maryland, Malik

612
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: Verdin from Iowa State, and Hunter Wohler from Wisconsin.

613
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: Again, I'm mu sure the Steelers will hit this position

614
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: and super hard. But the linebackers and safeties in the

615
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: late late rounds for special teams reasons. Yeah, and what

616
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: of that group can play the slot?

617
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: That's the big thing. You know, who are your slots?

618
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: I want to watch the slot type guys who they

619
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: line up there at the senior.

620
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: Booby and they'll do you know, Manda Mandrills against tight

621
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: ends and some some receivers as well, and you know

622
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: they won't just sit there and deep middle doing nothing.

623
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, the specialists. I don't know that the Steelers going

624
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 3: to be in the market for this, but Austin Brinkman

625
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: from West Virginia is going to be there as long snapper,

626
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: as is William Wagner from Michigan. And then you get through.

627
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Punters are James Burnett from Alabama and Jeremy Crayshaw our Crosshaw,

628
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: I should say, from Florida. Your kickers are Ryan Fitzgerald

629
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: from Florida State and Caden Davis from Mississippi.

630
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: One thing I did notice, I just looked at the kickers,

631
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: not that I even know anything about them, but they're

632
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: all warm weather guys.

633
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, weird, Yeah, weird, but yeah, it's I mean,

634
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: there's some guys there. I'll bet you there's probably of

635
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: this group that's going to be down there at least

636
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen. They're going to be top fifty picks,

637
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: maybe more.

638
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Any first round picks they had last year, but it

639
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: was like seven or eight. Yeah, they don't think it's

640
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: going to hit that number for first rounders, but there's

641
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: definitely a few D line and O line come to mind,

642
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: the line and O liners.

643
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to be fun to watch.

644
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Maybe up to eighth just in that group maybe, but no,

645
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: you're right. How many you say the top fifty?

646
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: I said ten to fifteen somewhere.

647
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: That's probably fair. Yeah.

648
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you know, if that's the case, okay, yeah, oh,

649
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: that's why it's worth that's why it's worth being there.

650
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: And it's pretty rare for any of those guys not

651
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: to end up on a team too. Yeah.

652
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: One of the things about the Senior Bowl that if

653
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: you're a team such as the Steelers who were always

654
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: drafting fifteen or lower, the top fifteen guys never go

655
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: to these all star games.

656
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah many years junior Yeah, yeah.

657
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Speaker 3: Those guys aren't going there. So you're going to get

658
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Speaker 3: eyeballs on a lot of these guys who are going

659
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Speaker 3: to be there for you in the first and second rounds,

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Speaker 3: let alone the third and fourth rounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and later there's a ton of interview and it

662
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: goes on behind the scenes. You get official heights and

663
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Speaker 1: waits for the first time in a while. Body types.

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Speaker 3: You get to see him work.

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Speaker 1: You have to see him work. You really have to

666
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Speaker 1: know the human beings too. I mean, even if you're

667
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Speaker 1: not one of the coaching staffs, which is a nice advantage,

668
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Speaker 1: but you still there's a lot of time at night

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Speaker 1: that you sit down with these guys and open ballrooms

670
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Speaker 1: where they're at. You get to sit and pick their brains. Yeah,

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00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one where you know, I'm trying to

673
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Speaker 3: think of who I've talked to over the years that

674
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Speaker 3: I think Keanu Benton was a guy that stood out

675
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: to me down there couple of years ago that I'm like,

676
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Speaker 3: he might he might be a Steeler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure we could. I'm sure there's a high

678
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Speaker 1: percentage of Steelers that played in the Game of Yes, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, and just you know, I know heinz Ward was

680
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: on the all time Senior Bowl list, their all time team.

681
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: He was one of the players because he went to

682
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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl.

683
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Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, it was a success story.

684
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Speaker 3: I'll get a chance to show, hey, I can play

685
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: a full time I can be a full time wide receiver.

686
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: You know, because if if you remember, Yeah, he was

687
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: a Jack Waal trade played a little bit of everything.

688
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: They took snaps and all that kind of stuff. So

689
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: if people don't know, there's really three pretty intense practices

690
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: of rev up day after day after day. Then there's

691
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: a walk through and by then most of the scouts

692
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: are gone. We'll be gone, and then the game on Saturday,

693
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Speaker 3: and the scouts basically just watch that tape. And the

694
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: way that works is the one team will work against

695
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: the other. The defensive players, like the offensive from that

696
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: team will work against the defense from that team, and

697
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: then likewise, in the afternoon, the other team will be

698
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: on the field and they'll have any and then they

699
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: bring it all together at the end for the game.

700
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: Is it North and South still or I think they call.

701
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: It American and National? American and National.

702
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean they sometimes an Oregon kid would end up

703
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: on the South teas. Yeah, like it was.

704
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: You got to split them up evenly. Who was it

705
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: last year that moved to change teams?

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Speaker 1: It was practiced. He practiced all week long. There's a

707
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Speaker 1: brand name guy. I should know that off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't remember who it was. He was like

710
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: one of the Stars of the Week, and then they

711
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: changed the other team.

712
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: I can't you're other team? All right, Well, I've gone

713
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: against these linemen all week. I'll whip up all my

714
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: former teammates. All right.

715
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: So that's all, guys, But always look forward to going

716
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: down there. And again, it kind of to me kickstarts,

717
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: doesn't kickstart the process, because I've already started looking at.

718
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Sure a lot of these pros officially draft season.

719
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: It gives you the opportunity to get eyeballs on these guys.

720
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: There's only two teams still alive at that point.

721
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Speaker 3: Nobody works the field among the NFL coaches quite like

722
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin does. He's got hands on down there, talking

723
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: to guys on the field, you know, watching drills closely. Yeah,

724
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: he wants to, he wants to get a feel for

725
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Speaker 3: these guys.

726
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Speaker 1: If you guys don't remember, like I think it was

727
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Tomlin that was really pushing Roman Wilson to go against

728
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: Mitchell from Toledo, you know, like want you to square off.

729
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, ended up with one of them. Yeah, so that's

730
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: how that works. But uh, anyways, that's what the Senior

731
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: Bowl roster looks like this year. Good roster. Yeah, a

732
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: lot of guys are gonna get drafted. But we'll be

733
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Speaker 3: there in a couple of weeks, so talking about Yeah,

734
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Speaker 3: we'll be talking about all that stuff while we're down there.

735
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Speaker 3: But he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

736
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Speaker 3: listening to the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Of course,

737
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: you can hear the Drive every Monday through Friday from

738
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: four to six pm right here on these very airwaves.

739
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: You can also download the Steelers Mobile app and get

740
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: it there and as well as watching our show on

741
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: YouTube or listening to it, yeah on while your work

742
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: background noise and go from there.

743
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, leave us comment to it everyone.

744
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, but we'll be back with more right after this.

745
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Speaker 2: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

746
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

747
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Speaker 2: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

748
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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

749
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson except no imitations. And Matt just to wrap

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Speaker 3: up the show here. Mike Tomin press conference today, Mike

751
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: was asked about, you know, what does he say to

752
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: fans that are frustrated about the finishes, you know, and

753
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: and everything? How this is transparent.

754
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: He said, look, there's a few of them out there,

755
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: by the way, if you've seen anyone your stuff, But.

756
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: I've heard some things here and there. Yeah, and he said, look,

757
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm frustrated as well. Sure, just as much as you are,

758
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: because you know, as he said, he thought this team

759
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: was was going to be different, and at times it

760
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: was different.

761
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, glimpses of it with it a little bit, yeah,

762
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: quite a bit.

763
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 3: And so you know, now they have to go through

764
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: and figure out what went wrong?

765
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Was it?

766
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: You know, why where did this thing go south? And

767
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: you know this is not making up an excuse or anything,

768
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: but you can look at that three game stretch in

769
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: eleven days.

770
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: There's obvious line of demarcation.

771
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Speaker 3: Three teams that are still alive in the postseason, and

772
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: you had a bunch of injuries and it went south

773
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 3: at that point and.

774
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Including the Bengals game. And they were good opponents, they were.

775
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: Good, yeah, good opponents that you lost to. Ideally you

776
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: win a couple of those games, and if you do that,

777
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: you know you were playing the Ravens at home potentially,

778
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: or you're playing somebody else at home.

779
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: At least going to Houston or right right, right, right.

780
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: And so it's just little things like that that go

781
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: wrong in a season. And so you now you have

782
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: to take that step back and and say, Okay, how

783
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: can we how can we get better? How can we

784
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: make you know, this work better than what it is,

785
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: because again, you're not going to have Lamar Jackson walking

786
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: through that door. You don't now have Josh Allen walking

787
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Speaker 3: through that door to be You're going.

788
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Speaker 1: To beat those guys in the playoffs. And that's as

789
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: daunting a task as I can remember, you know. I mean, yeah,

790
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: during the Bend era there was Manning and Brady too.

791
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Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't a but you had one of

792
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Speaker 1: those games at least, and you had a dude. You

793
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: had a dude, you know, you could battle those Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And people complain, then, well, you can't beat Brady. Not

795
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Speaker 3: many people did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very few do. And Holmes gets another ring. You

797
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: know what's gonna be going on in Buffalo and Baltimore.

798
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Speaker 1: Our guys Choker can't.

799
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Speaker 3: Can't beat Mahomes, right, Yeah, if you do, I mean

800
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: it's it's a shortcut. But you got bounced by Lamar,

801
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: you got bossed by Allen, and you got bounced by

802
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: Mahomes three years in a row. Well, it'd be nice

803
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: to have one of them, but you're not gonna. But

804
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: you don't.

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00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: What do you do?

806
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: So, now, how do you pivot and adjust and play

807
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: winning football without one of those guys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's a difference between doing it in regular

809
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: season and the postseason too, And frankly, that last month

810
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: of the season kind of had a postseason feel to

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Speaker 1: it too.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing about it on your bodies and brains.

813
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: And you're old enough to remember this as well as

814
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Speaker 3: as am I dating ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Here, But people forget I'm old enough. You're definitely old enough.

816
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to go there. I included myself and

817
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: that you didn't have to.

818
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: True, but you did, but I did. I appreciate that.

819
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Speaker 3: Anyways, from the time Terry Bradshaw retired, yeah, until you

820
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Speaker 3: got Ben Roethlisberger.

821
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Speaker 1: That will stretch you, right. You went to one super

822
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Bowl and hey, there's some okay quarterbacks in stretch. You

823
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: went to.

824
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Speaker 3: Multiple AFC championships in between that, but you went to

825
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Speaker 3: one super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Folks, It's not a coincidence that Bradshaw got rings, Ben

827
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: got rings. Neil and Bubby and didn't. Yeah, quarterbacks are

828
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: really important.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a big deal. It's kind of the

830
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: most important position on the field. Yes, and you know, now,

831
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: can you win without one of those guys? Yeah, there

832
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: are instances where you should where teams have done this,

833
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: But by and large, Scottie Campbell's not getting you into

834
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. No, No, And I know there's a

835
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: lot of heat on Tomlin right now. And take this

836
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: however you want. But I cut and paste.

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Speaker 1: Of this from Bill Barnwell's article the other day, and frankly,

838
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: I look at it like most coaches wouldn't have even

839
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: got you this far. You know, you can take it

840
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: however you want, folks, And there's good and bad. But

841
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: over the past five years, seventy teams have made it

842
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: to the postseason. Okay, I mean that's the way it works. Yeah.

843
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Among the qualifiers, Tomlin Steelers have ranked fifty eighth, sixty fourth,

844
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: sixty seventh, and sixty eighth out of seventy in QBR. Yeah,

845
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: I don't even know what QBR is that I don't either,

846
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: But it's not They're not top of a list.

847
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: It's not the top of the list, you know.

848
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: What I mean? And I don't think anyone has to

849
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: squint too far to figure out Pike at Trubisky all

850
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: these I mean, they're not mahomes, you know what I mean? Yeah,

851
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: should you have even been in the playoffs, Now that's

852
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: a whole different can of worms. But I don't know

853
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: that most coaches even get you in with bottom of

854
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: the league, league, bottom of the playoff field quarterback play.

855
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not a QBR guy, you know, but I mean,

856
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: it's just I thought that was eye openings, Like wow,

857
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean even this whole season, it's Fields

858
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: and Wilson combined.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to look at it not just

860
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: through a Steeler's lens, but look at it from the

861
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: league perspective of let's say Justin Herbert or you know, Trevor,

862
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, Lawrence is these guys. These guys were

863
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: highly drafted quarterbacks. Everybody would take them on their team.

864
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: If Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert were available this offseason,

865
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: they would get.

866
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Speaker 1: A different story than the free agent money we're talking

867
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: about it.

868
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: They would get fifty plus million dollars a year in

869
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: a heartbeat, and between the two of them, they've got

870
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: one playoff win, and that came when one when one

871
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: beat the other one after the other, one blew his team,

872
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: blew a twenty four point lead.

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Speaker 1: Like Herbert is a great example, Like he's had two

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Speaker 1: really bad playoff performances. But you also could I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: mind being the lawyer trying to prosecute him or defend him,

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00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: Like he's got one guy to throw to and they

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Speaker 1: can't pick up a blitz and I mean, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to get Quinton Johnson to beat Stingleys, you know, Like,

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Speaker 1: but you're throwing the ball to the other team a lot,

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Speaker 1: and you're not elevating your guys too, you know. And

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Speaker 1: it's a brutal world, it really is. And so you

882
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Speaker 1: either have the quarterback or you don't. There's some there's

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Speaker 1: some luck involved. The Steelers were fortunate when they got

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. Absolutely, he was not a top ten pick, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I think all the optimism in Chicago when they

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Speaker 1: got the first overall pick we got in Caleb Williams, man,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be one of those teams. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: will be, but you're not. You're a long way from

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Speaker 1: being one of those teams, right, now. Yeah, and even

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Speaker 1: though you got or Jacksonville with Laurence, I'm talking about

891
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: these transcendent quarterback prospects. I mean, I don't think Caleb's

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00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: gonna be the best quarterback in his class.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that you can't get there. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that you can't find those guys beyond you know,

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Speaker 3: the first ten picks or the top ten picks.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, Lamar Jackson was the thirty first pick in

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Speaker 3: the draft. You know, you can go on down the

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Speaker 3: line with with guys who have been later picks that

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Speaker 3: you catch fire with or catch lightning in a bottle.

901
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Speaker 3: But you got to have the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You have to.

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Speaker 3: And if you don't have the quarterback, you're a team

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Speaker 3: that's constantly searching for the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm even looking at like the NFC teams. Now,

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Speaker 1: the NFC teams don't have to go through the string

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Speaker 1: of beating Alan Lamar Mahome for two of the three.

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Speaker 1: But and I know Stafford was the first pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft, Goff was the first pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: and Stafford's my favorite of the NFL quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Hurts was a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just and My point is, though, those

913
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Speaker 1: guys aren't the superheroes that Josh Allen are. But could

914
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Speaker 1: they get can they win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: I think one of them is going to get there.

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Speaker 1: One of them is going to get there, probably against

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Speaker 1: Lamar Mahomes or or Allen probably and can they win

918
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Speaker 1: that game? Yeah. I just think the AFC is a

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Speaker 1: little tougher to get tougher and will be for the

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Speaker 1: next couple of years, a decade. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the that's the reality of right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was better in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the era when when the Steelers

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Speaker 3: had Roethlisberger. Yeah, Manning Brady and Roethlisberger took up ninety

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Speaker 3: percent of the Super Bowls that were played from AFC teams.

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Speaker 1: Like the guy that to me got so short changed

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Speaker 1: with Rivers, like the Rivers the NFC. Maybe he's right

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Speaker 1: there with Breeze and Rogers and you know, and really

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Speaker 1: taking this team Rogers a little younger, but you know,

931
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Speaker 1: you had some powerhouses.

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Speaker 3: But the first step in doing that is winning a

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Speaker 3: playoff game. Of course, you got to win the first

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Speaker 3: one before you get to the next win. So that's

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Speaker 3: the task that's it's ahead of the Steelers here as

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Speaker 3: we head into the offseason.

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Speaker 1: That's the way to do that is win the division. You

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Speaker 1: know that was for the taking this year, and then

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Speaker 1: you're at least hosting the game.

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Speaker 3: R Yeah, real quick. Here, the Steelers assigned seventeen guys

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Speaker 3: to future reserve contracts, including a quarterback, that being Skyler

942
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Speaker 3: Thompson who used to be with the Miami Dolphins. So

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Speaker 3: don't read too much into them. No, these are futures deals.

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Speaker 1: He'll be in camp. Yeah, those guys will be in camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe if they it's not even done deal with that, yeah,

946
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Speaker 1: but he could be maybe your third or fourth. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that's where we're at. But that's going to do

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Speaker 3: it for today's show. Be careful if you're out there

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Speaker 3: this edition of The Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.