1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a beautiful and beloved news 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: anchor seemingly vanishes on her way to the newsroom for 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: her morning appearance on air. But now her family, grieving 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: share a new and very disturbing theory. I'm Nancy Grace, 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Before dawn. In the early morning on June twenty seven, 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Jody Who's in Truth, woke up by the phone ringing. 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: The twenty seven year old was groggy and disoriented. She 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: reached for the receiver in her Mason City, Iowa apartment. 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: On the other end, her producer at KIMT News, who 11 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: told her it was past four am. She needed to 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: hurry and get into the newsroom. Who's the Truth did hurry, 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: got together and raced out to her car. She was 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: due on air within the hour for her morning show 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: called Daybreak, But when the producer, Amy Kuons tried again 16 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: to call Jody, she got only an answering machine, a 17 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: fill in to the air, and the search was on 18 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: for Jody Hu's instrut. In the last days, her family 19 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: reveals their stunning fear, Their fear, their gut feeling is 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: that someone became obsessed with Jody from watching her on TV, 21 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: thinking she's so beautiful, she's so articulate, she can be 22 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: so funny, that that is my ideal woman, according to family. 23 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Family believes that this unknown stalker may not have intended 24 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: for Jody to die, but maybe everything just went wrong. 25 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: What do we know about those early morning hours when 26 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Jody Who's in true seemingly vanished off the face of 27 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: the earth and what clues are left behind. 28 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: Today's forecast shows mostly windy and cool temperatures with scattered 29 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: showers are high as expected to be in the upper sixties. 30 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: The clouds will continue through this evening. Showers will end, 31 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: but the windy and cool temperatures will prevail. 32 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: Same clude State's increase enrollment. 33 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: Has not been enough to make Eastman's not Listener take 34 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: on any dramatic changes this year, but the telegrapher Marien Slater, 35 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: I am Jody who was in Truth for you TBS News. 36 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Just hearing her voice seemingly makes this all so real. 37 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Now you're hearing Jody's voice when she was a student 38 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: reporter at Saint Cloud University for the campus TV station, 39 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: University TV, and she went on from there to become 40 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: a rising star in the TV industry, really making her mark. 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: The viewers were enthralled by her. They gravitated torture, not 42 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: just because of her good looks, not just because she 43 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: was prepared and articulate, but she had a warmth about 44 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: her that seemingly went out across the airwaves to everybody watching. 45 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: Beloved in her market, until suddenly she just goes missing. 46 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Let me introduce to you an all star panel to 47 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: help figure out where is Jody Husing Shrewd. First of all, 48 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: the tip line nine seven zero four or five eight 49 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: Jody Jodi nine seven zero four five eight five six 50 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: three four with me Jay Alberio, former Commander, Woodbury Police Department, 51 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Investigative Unit Manager, Woodbury Public Safety, former US marine. You 52 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: can find him right now at Findjody dot com. Doctor Jorykrasin, psychologist, 53 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Faculties Saying Leo University consultant and author of Operation SS 54 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: with me. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags. 55 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: You can find her at wendypatrickphd dot com and she's 56 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: the host of Today with Doctor Wendy on kcb Q, 57 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: San Diego. Investigative journalist. You can also find her at 58 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: Fine Jody dot com and she is the founder of 59 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the Fine Jody podcast. She's also a Caroline Low TV. 60 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Caroline Low joining us, But first to a very special 61 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: guest joining us. This is Jody's sister, Joanne Nathy. Joanne, 62 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. 63 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: Well, thank you again for having me, Jillianne. 64 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: It's unfathomable to me how someone that is so present 65 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: in the lives of her local TV community can just disappear. 66 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: It's like someone just cut off the TV and she's gone, 67 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: and that the end of it. It seems very very surreal. 68 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we never, you know, anticipate anything like this ever happening. 69 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: We thought Jody would be safe in Mason City. It 70 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 4: wasn't that big of a community, and she just she 71 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: took a lot of safety courses and stuff, and she 72 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: she was careful, she really was. She wanted to have 73 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: a good reputation in the community. And yeah, we were 74 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 4: just stunned. I mean when it happened in ninety five, 75 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: and of course it's been really hard and everybody, not 76 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: just the family, it's friends. She meant a lot to 77 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: so many people. 78 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: Do you remember when you first learned Jody was missing? 79 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember it very well. What happened, well, we 80 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: were on a bus trip up north, my mom and 81 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 4: aunt just oh, with the group of ladies, you know, 82 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: and we were going to this casino because ninety five 83 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: the casinos well they had started prior to ninety five. 84 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: But anyway, it was going to be a fun day. 85 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: And so we were up in Walker, Minnesota, and then 86 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: they asked us to come to the room when we 87 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: got there and that there was an emergency phone call. 88 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: It was shortly after we arrived, and so we came 89 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: in and they said it's from Mason City. And right 90 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 4: away my mom said, oh, no, Jody. And we thought 91 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: maybe she'd been in a car accident. 92 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 5: That's what I thought. 93 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: And she'll be okay, you know, she'll But then when 94 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: Halverson said, oh, she's missing, Joanne, are you sitting down? 95 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: And I said missing, Well, we'll find her, you know, 96 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: there's some mistake. Why would she be missing, you know. 97 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: But then we got pretty nervous and about it all, 98 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: of course, and we left. They provided a vehicle for 99 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: us to go back to Long Purrie. They brought us. 100 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: It was quite a drive too, but yeah, it was 101 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: very hard. And then we got back and nobody had 102 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: found her, you know, by the end of the day, 103 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: and so then we were getting very worried. But we 104 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: thought it'd be that it was some kind of a mistake, 105 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 4: that she would be found and she'd be okay. That 106 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: was their original thought, you. 107 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: Know, to doctor Jory Kraus in psychologist Faculty, Saint Leo 108 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: University joining us doctor Drury, I know I'm projecting right now, 109 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: but I've also seen it with many, many other crime victims. 110 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: When I first was told my fiance it was dead, 111 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: at first, I thought there was some kind of a 112 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: mix up and if I could just get to him, 113 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: I could fix it, and I could get him to 114 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: the hospital and everything would be okay. I thought there 115 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: had been a car crash, just like what joe Ane 116 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: Nathee is saying about Jodie Houston truth and I know 117 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: you hear her saying, well, we thought it was a 118 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: car accident. Then we thought missing, well, there's just some 119 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: mix that we're going to fix this. Why is our mind? 120 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Where are our mind go to something that we can comprehend? 121 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't comprehend that Keith have been shot five 122 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: times in the face and the neck and the head 123 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: in the back, that was hard for me. That would 124 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: never have occurred to me, that that could have happened. 125 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: Just like with Joe and Nathy, Jody's sister, she really thought, oh, 126 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: there's been a car crash missing. What this is wrong? 127 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: We're going to We're going to get this all straightened out. 128 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Why is that? What is that? 129 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 6: It starts off as like a protective mechanism for ourselves, 130 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 6: you know, to try to make some positive sense out 131 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 6: of it. You know, the term we use is closure, 132 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 6: and it's not like closing up the you know, the event, 133 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 6: but it's trying to make sense out of ambiguity. And 134 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 6: you know, you think of, well maybe it was a 135 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 6: car accident, They're okay, they're going to be found. You 136 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 6: continue to put the positive perspective on it, and it 137 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 6: helps kind of keep you stable. Lies so as you 138 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 6: take in more information, you can you know, better assess 139 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 6: it and apply it to the situation. 140 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: Is there some sort of a defense mechanism, Well, I 141 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: call it. 142 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 6: More of a protective mechanism, you know, trying to keep 143 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 6: you know, that stress level down so you can keep 144 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 6: a rational cognitive process going on with the information that 145 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 6: you're taking in. You know, some people they react, you know, 146 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 6: just where they totally break down and you know they're 147 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: not able to do anything. 148 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I take a listen to our friend Ross Cugis 149 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: KSTP TV son and I just woken her up. 150 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 7: Amy Coons called Jody's apartment at four a m. The 151 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 7: morning Jody disappeared. 152 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 8: I wondered if anything was going on, like maybe somebody 153 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 8: was in her apartment now, I listened. 154 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: For other voices. 155 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 7: Jody had said she had overslept and would be right 156 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 7: in at four twenty that morning. Tenant's here screens in 157 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 7: the parking lot. Jody has never heard from again. 158 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Caroline Load founded a podcast called Find Jody Podcast. You 159 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: can find her also at Caroline Low TV. Caroline, thank 160 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: you for being with us. You've been on the case 161 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: for some time. Let's start at the beginning. What do 162 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: we know of the last time that Jody was seen alive? 163 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: No wait, no, let's start with the scene. Let's start 164 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: with her place where she was what do we know? 165 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 9: What we know is it appears that whatever happened to 166 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 9: Jody happened in the parking lot right adjacent to her building. 167 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 9: It looks like they're about twelve steps from Jody's building 168 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 9: to her car that she was most likely ambushed attack 169 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 9: from behind. 170 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: Okay, right, are you talking about her building where she 171 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: lived or her building where she where she lived. 172 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 9: We're talking from where she was running late. As we 173 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 9: heard Amy Koons, her producer say, she was running late 174 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 9: and so she's rushing to her car. She's carrying her 175 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 9: things she needs to. 176 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 10: Get ready her work. 177 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 9: Most likely her hair was wet being so late, and 178 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 9: she had a blow dryer with her. Somebody attacked her 179 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 9: from behind, and from all signs that we can tell, 180 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 9: there were signs of a struggle. She was dragged easterly 181 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 9: according to the police. 182 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: You know what, I got to break everything down that 183 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: you're saying. I got to go through it one fact 184 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: at a time and digest it and trying to make 185 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: sense of it. Guys were talking about a beautiful TV 186 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: anchor that goes missing. Jody Hu's in truth. Take a 187 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: listen to our friend Jim Axelrod. 188 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 11: The anchor of KIMT six am newscast. She usually arrived 189 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 11: at work by three point thirty in the morning. 190 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 8: If she's not there between three thirty and fogg, you 191 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 8: were calls a hey, are you awake? 192 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 11: Producer Amy Koons noticed nothing unusual, and she called and 193 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 11: whooped Jody up about ten after four that morning. 194 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: She was asking about the show. She was concerned about 195 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 3: the show, and she said, I'll be right there. 196 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 11: But at five point thirty, still know Jody, and this 197 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 11: being a time before cell phones, Amy tried her at 198 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 11: home again and got her answering machine. At six am, 199 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 11: Amy had a step up and deliver the news in 200 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 11: Jody's place. 201 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: She loves her show. 202 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: She got it her show. You know she wouldn't miss 203 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: it for anything. 204 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: The police were called shortly after seven. When they arrived 205 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: at Jody's. 206 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 11: Apartment, she wasn't home, but they found her shoes, hair 207 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 11: dryer and keys scattered on the ground near her beloved 208 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 11: red Mazda Miata. 209 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: You are hearing our friend Jim Axelrod at fine Jody, 210 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: CBS forty eight hours the search on for Jodie Houston Street. 211 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: Let me go back to Caroline Love, investigative journalist. Caroline. 212 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Let's start again at the beginning. Now you're telling me 213 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: she was leaving. You believe she was leaving her apartment 214 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: building that morning. She was running a little late for work. 215 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: Her hair was still wet because she had a hair 216 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: dryer with you with her. I assume that was standing 217 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: in the parking lot. You're telling me she was only 218 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: twelve feet out from her apartment or twelve feet from 219 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: her vehicle, And how would you know she was dragged behind? 220 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 9: That information came years ago from police, a police investigator. 221 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 9: She was dragged easterly. They saw marks in the silt, 222 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 9: if you will, and they believed that that's what happened. 223 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 9: That she was strigg easterly most toward Kentucky Avenue, which 224 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 9: is the main road going by the Key Apartments where 225 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 9: Jody lived with me. 226 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Former Commander twenty seven years Woodbury Police Department, Jay Alberiro, Jay, 227 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: tell me what you know of the morning Jody goes missing. 228 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 10: An examination of the photos that the media had, the 229 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 10: information that the Mason City Police had put out there 230 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 10: in the past. So based on all that, my interpretation 231 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 10: and from the facts is that Jody was at her 232 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 10: car and it appears that she was attempting to put 233 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 10: the key in the door lock to open the door 234 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 10: to her car when she was grabbed more likely from behind, 235 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 10: because there's indications or the key that she had was bent, 236 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 10: which tells me that she had to keep in the 237 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 10: door lock when she was grabbed, so the force of 238 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 10: somebody grabbing her pushed her towards the front of the 239 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 10: car possibly and bent that key. And also the driver's 240 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 10: side mirror on the door was also bent forward, and 241 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 10: again that indicates there's a struggle taking place and the 242 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 10: perpetrator has grabbed her and has taken her towards the 243 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 10: front of the car, away from her apartment building. You know, 244 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 10: and the examination we've been down there, We've driven through 245 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 10: the parking lot and looked at the scene, because the 246 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 10: scene will tell you volumes of what happened, and it's 247 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 10: a very tight parking lot where that's. 248 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Really interesting to Wndy Patrick, prosecutor, author of Red Flags 249 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: at wendypatricktphd dot com. Wendy, I never was so arrogant 250 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: as to try a case in front ofly jury without 251 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: having gone to this scene. In fact, very typically obsessively 252 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: gone to the scene many, many times, often on my 253 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: off time, looking at it, trying to make sense, reenacting 254 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: in my mind what happened. Who could see what or 255 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: not see? And in court, Wendy, it made all the 256 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: difference because I've had many defense witnesses take the stand 257 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: under oath and state what they saw or didn't see, 258 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: and into my knowledge of the scene makes it very 259 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: easy to say something like, well, wait a minute, isn't 260 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: there a big tree and a hedge around the building, 261 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: So you're saying you could see through the hedge what 262 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: happened at the front door. Is that what you're telling me? 263 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: You have to know this scene and we're just hearing 264 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: that from Jay Alberia. 265 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's huge. And I usually go as soon 266 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: as possible when after the prime was committed, because, especially 267 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 5: in a case like this where you have an incident 268 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 5: in the morning, you want to know when exactly the 269 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: sun came up, when people would be out walking their dogs, 270 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: when you'd see the joggers, when you would be able 271 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 5: to have seen the evidence left behind. You know, we 272 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 5: all know the first few hours after a kidnapping or 273 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 5: an abduction are the most critical, the most crucial, because 274 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: that's when the bad guy or whoever abducted the victim 275 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: is able to make the escape. So yes, and you're 276 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 5: also right, it gives you enhanced credibility in front of 277 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 5: not just the jury but also the judge to where 278 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 5: you are the one in the courtroom that has done 279 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: your homework, You've been there and you're in the best 280 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 5: position to be asking these questions. 281 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: It also helps you catch liars. But in this case, 282 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: we're hearing Jay Alberiro and Caroline Low describe what happened, 283 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: and the scenario is really important. Now, what have I learned? 284 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: I've learned that she was most likely attacked from behind? 285 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Somebody she didn't know, Somebody that 286 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: felt they had to sneak up on her, in the 287 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: sense that maybe it was someone she did know, but 288 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: they had bad dealings so they had to sneak up 289 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: on her. It tells me that she fought tooth and nail, 290 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: that she had almost made it to her car, because 291 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: we're here Alberio describing how the key to the car 292 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: was bent. So Jesse she had gotten it in and 293 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: it was pulled away with such force it bent the key. 294 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: Now we are hypothesizing what happened, but there's a lot 295 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: of evidence to prove that. Take a listen to reporterly 296 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: with ABC six kaa l what happened to Jody. 297 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 12: Outside of Jody's apartment, investigators found evidence of a struggle, 298 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 12: her personal items scattered in the parking lot, jewelry, shoes, 299 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 12: and a bag near her red convertible, and perhaps one. 300 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: Of the most important pieces of evidence, a broken key. 301 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: As Jody's mourning producer morning assistant producer, I was the 302 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: last one to speak with her before she disappeared. 303 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: Ammy Coons was working that morning Jody disappeared. She tells police. 304 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 12: Jody was often late for work, and that morning she 305 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 12: called Jody and says Jody. 306 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: Answered and told her she was on her way in. 307 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 3: We still have our jobs to do and I just 308 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: got to get the show. 309 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 12: Yere Coons went on to anchor that morning in Jody's place. 310 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 12: It wasn't until hours later that a phone call was 311 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 12: made by the station. 312 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: To police that Jody never arrived to work. 313 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, man, that is critical to Joanne Nathy, this 314 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: is Jody's sister. They didn't call for how many hours? 315 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Those are critical hours in finding Jody. 316 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. I'm sure they just well, maybe she 317 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: overslept and she would be in That's what I've understood it. 318 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: But it was critical time period. It's too bad that 319 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: they didn't call, but you know. 320 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: It happened. Those cards were dealt and we're working with 321 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: what we've got. 322 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: Certainly, Amy Coons never thought that Jody was being obressd accepted, 323 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: of course, just thought she had overslipt, you know. 324 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. According to a gorgeous young 325 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: TV anchor's family, they are convinced someone became obsessed with 326 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: Jody who's instrup from watching her on TV and deciding 327 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: that's the woman for me. Maybe not intentionally harming Jody, 328 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: but they believe a kidnap attempt went wrong. What happened 329 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: that morning? Caroline Loath, isn't it correct that, you know, 330 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: I heard another coworker say that Jody was never late 331 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: to work, so I've got a conflicting report on that. Well, 332 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: is that significant? Yes, because if she was never late 333 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: to work as she was late this morning, that is 334 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: what we call quote routine evidence, evidence of habit or routine. 335 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: It's very hard to break, you know, when you're in 336 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: the TV business. You can't be one minute late or 337 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: there'll be an empty chair sitting there. You need. If 338 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: you're fifteen minutes early, you're late. So I'm curious about that, 339 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: and I'm also curious the coworker said Caroline that they 340 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: called her and she said, I'm on the way. Is 341 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: that correct? 342 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 9: We have no information otherwise and that's what police are reported, 343 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 9: So will we guess guessing that they checked the records 344 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 9: to verify that. But to back to Amy, Amy said 345 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 9: that she was basically crashing to get the show on. 346 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 9: She was initially just kind of angry at Todi that 347 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 9: she'd overslept, and she told maybe it's just. 348 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 10: The other day. 349 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 9: One of her biggest series was she would lose her 350 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 9: job if she didn't get that show produced and on 351 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 9: the air. 352 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 10: Yeah, she never imagined. 353 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's right about that, because people would tune in 354 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: and there'll be nothing there. So yeah, she would probably 355 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: have lost her job. Another question, she to Caroline Low, 356 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: very often I would take clothes, shoes, makeup, whatever jewelry 357 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: that I was going to wear it that night with 358 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: me in my hands, in a bag and a backpack, 359 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: fold it up with me. So I'm assuming that everything 360 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: that was found in the parking lot. When we hear 361 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: hair dry or shoes and all that, that doesn't mean 362 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: they came off for feet. That means to me that's 363 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: what she was going to wear onto the air. Guys, 364 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about Jody, who's in truth just twenty seven 365 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: years old. That goes missing seemingly into thin air. So, 366 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: Caroline Low, what can you tell me about all the 367 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: items that were scattered in the parking lot. 368 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 9: What we know is there are a pair of red 369 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 9: high heels, which would seem to suggest that Jody was 370 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 9: likely wearing something with red or all red that day. 371 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 9: We don't know exactly. As far as we know, what 372 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 9: she was wearing has never been found. There was hairspray, 373 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 9: there was a blow dryer, There are earrings, so the 374 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 9: basics of what you would wear to go on the air. 375 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 9: What's missing is a bag that she carried it in. 376 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 9: We've never heard anything about whether that was located. Presumably 377 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 9: Jody did not run to her car carrying all these 378 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 9: things in her arms doesn't make sense. So where is 379 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 9: that bag? Where's the purse that she normally would have had. 380 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 9: We don't know. 381 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: And we also know that she was in a hurry 382 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: because she was running late, so she may have grabbed 383 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: things and then they came out of her hands. But 384 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: I find that also odd. Why would she have be 385 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: carrying earrings and other things in her hands and trying 386 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: to open up the car door. Guys, take a listen 387 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: to our cut seven A This is Brian Master evening 388 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: anchor k imt listen. 389 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 13: Jody wasn't there, and so an associate producer, Amy Koons 390 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 13: calls Jody at her apartment. Jody sounded as though she 391 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 13: had just woke up and told Amy, Okay, I'm getting around. 392 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 13: I'll be in. 393 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: So then the time passes, It's. 394 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 13: Now four point thirty, it's now five, Amy, I'm assuming 395 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 13: always thought, well, probably just sell back sleep. Jody not 396 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 13: coming in right on time wasn't necessarily unusual from talking 397 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 13: to the people who worked in the morning. She wasn't 398 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 13: always right on time. The show starts at six o'clock 399 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 13: without Jody, and so it was just a few minutes 400 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 13: after seven o'clock, right after she had gotten off the air, 401 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 13: Amy Coons calls Mason City Police for a welfare check. 402 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 9: Maytay, can I clarify something there? Yes, Ample didn't make 403 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 9: the Amy did not make the phone call. Amy was 404 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 9: still sitting on this set at the seven o'clock when 405 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 9: the show ended, a co worker came in. She asked 406 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 9: the coworker to call police because she still had to 407 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 9: do a morning update. 408 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: So a co. 409 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 9: Worker called the police at seven point thirteen. First officers 410 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 9: arrived on the scene at seven sixteen. 411 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Interesting. That makes me feel a little bit better about 412 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: the timeline because the whole day hasn't passed. Take a 413 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: listen to more of our friends at Kaimt listen. 414 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 13: Mason City Police found Jody's car in the parking lot 415 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 13: in the apartment complex, was maybe twenty feet twenty five 416 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 13: feet from the front door. 417 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 14: They did find her car in the parking lot and 418 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 14: or who she had been. 419 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 13: Found a bench if you see that scattered, a keybent 420 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 13: in her fairly new car. There's a palm print on 421 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 13: the car. There's a struggle. She's been abducted. She's probably 422 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 13: still alive. There's a three hour window in between the 423 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 13: phone call and the welfare check, and that's a lot 424 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 13: of time for somebody to do something and get away. 425 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: That is conventional wisdom. If someone is killed in an induction, 426 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: very often the first three hours or the critical that's 427 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: the critical window in which you have a chance to 428 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: save the person. Straight out to doctor Jory Crawls in 429 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Psychologists Faculty, Saint Leo University. You know, another wrinkle in 430 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: this case is that Jodie Hughson truth was in everybody's 431 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: living rooms and bedrooms and dens and kitchens all across 432 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: the viewing area. People thought thought that they knew her. 433 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Not only that, there are a lot of people out 434 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: there that, for instance, I know this sounds crazy, doctor Jory, 435 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: that think you're sending them non verbal messages or that 436 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: you are speaking to them in code in some way. 437 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: Of course, these people have mental issues, but they believe, 438 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: for instance, somebody young and beautiful like JODI's Huston's Truth 439 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: is actually in love with them. It happens quite often, doctor. 440 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 15: Yes, it does with you know, celebrities or anybody that's 441 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 15: in the public light of you know, I guess all 442 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 15: the reporters that can kind. 443 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 6: Of relate to that. But the one thing is that 444 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 6: you know, from the psychological perspective of who did this, 445 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 6: I mean, it seemed to be pretty well planned out, 446 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 6: and most people that you know either have those kind 447 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 6: of delusions, I mean, they can still plan it out well, 448 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: but committing it to this degree of almost perfection. You know, 449 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 6: it was that time of day, early in the morning, 450 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 6: they had to wait. She was late. I mean, there's 451 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 6: a lot of things that you know, what we don't 452 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 6: have answers. 453 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: For and I'm assuming to you, Caroline Low that there 454 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: were no security cameras in the parking lot. 455 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 9: No security cameras, and as far as we know, no eyewitnesses. 456 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: Oh man, of course, to you, Jay Alberio, it was 457 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: so early in the morning that she was leaving. Correct, 458 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: what time was it? 459 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 10: We just made from the information it was about four 460 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 10: thirty in the morning. 461 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a lot of people out and about 462 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: at four thirty in the morning. Take a listen to 463 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: our forensic kimt. 464 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 13: The search for Jodie was immedia. The response was overwhelming. 465 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 13: I mean, she's in your living room every morning. In 466 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 13: Mason City and the surrounding communities, people feel as though 467 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 13: they know you men. So everybody wanted to help. You 468 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 13: had dogs, you had psychics. You had so many people 469 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 13: looking just to see if they could find clues. 470 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: Joey and Nathan, this is Jody's sister. Do you remember 471 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: the use of psychics trying to find Jody. 472 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we had telephone calls and we were on 473 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 4: a show with psychics too at the beginning. Could I 474 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: clarify something that always bugs me that I hear them 475 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 4: say like I heard this morning again that she was 476 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: late many times for work, and I never had that 477 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: impression of a few times she was late for work. 478 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: But Jody was very conscientious about her job. I mean, 479 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: she wanted perfection. I would not say she was late 480 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 4: many times. A few times she was a little late. 481 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: Probably she did jam pack her day's way too much. 482 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: She worked, stayed up late writing thank you notes, and 483 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: you know she just used every hour. 484 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, And I was trying to 485 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: clear that earlier Joe and Nathe. Through my research and 486 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: investigation of the case, I found other co workers that 487 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: said she was never late or really late. 488 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: She was so condentious. But no, she was late a 489 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: few times. I'm sure. 490 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I don't like 491 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: the impression that leaves, and more important, it factors into 492 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: what happened that morning, because she told the co worker, 493 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm up, I'm on the way here. 494 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 4: I count And I'm sure she was very nervous at 495 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: that point because she was so conscientious. 496 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure take a listen as Brian Master kimt. 497 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 13: Free neighbors apparently heard screams that morning, and none of 498 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 13: them are able to really give an indicator about what 499 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 13: those screams were about. 500 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Was Jodie, who's in truth 501 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: kidnapped by a stalker, someone that became obsessed from watching 502 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: her on TV. That is the gut wrenching theory. Her 503 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: family believes what other clues were left behind to Wendy Patcheck, 504 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Red Flags, and hosters Today with 505 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: doctor Wendy k c b Q in San Diego. Wendy, 506 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, a timeline can start with something seemingly innocuous, 507 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: and I will refer to a really good example where 508 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: in the Nicole Brown Ron Goldman double murder, the neighbors 509 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: were first alerted by the dog. I believe the dog's 510 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: same was Akida's, as they say, mournful or plaintive. Well, 511 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: that really started the timeline in the middle of the night, 512 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: and here the neighbors hear these screams. Wendy, that's right. 513 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: And you know a lot of people would have called 514 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: the police right away upon hearing those screams, and a 515 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: timeline would also include people that were up at six am. 516 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 5: This was a morning a she was in the morning 517 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 5: rooms of the breakfast tables across this small town where 518 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: more people were likely to know her, to recognize her, 519 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: to know her name. It also, when you talk about 520 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 5: a timeline, you would want to know if she had 521 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 5: a stalker. And I've prosecuted several men who have stalked 522 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 5: news anchors specifically, but they were news anchors that were 523 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 5: on when they were awake. So that timeline would also 524 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 5: sweep in everyone that would necessarily have seen her, have 525 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 5: seen something, who would have been up, who know who 526 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 5: she is, because they would have been awakened in a 527 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 5: position to be not only sharp many people are sharper 528 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 5: in the morning, but also in a position to notice 529 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 5: something out of the ordinary, like those screams that, as 530 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: you point out, really starts that timeline. 531 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 14: Yeah. 532 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean if you hear a scream at four thirty 533 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: five o'clock in the morning, and there's a big difference 534 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: of hearing the neighbor calling the dog and a woman screaming. 535 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm very surprised no one called police, But you know what, again, 536 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: that's what we're working with. They did not take a 537 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: Listen now to Ross's Cherry at k STP. 538 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 7: TV, Jody's closest friends in Mason City are for the 539 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 7: first time talking about their suspicions. 540 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: Because it could possibly be someone that we know. 541 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 16: All with all the times I've talked to detectives, they 542 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 16: feel that someone's doctor watched her, know what her schedule 543 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 16: was and was. 544 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: Definitely going to plan on doing something that morning. 545 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 7: Right up to her disappearance, this group of people socialized 546 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 7: with Jody. As they realized Jody's abductor might not be 547 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 7: a stranger, they grew uncomfortable with one of their friends. 548 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 8: You see signals you may not have seen that make 549 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 8: me think that there is always a possibility that could 550 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 8: be somebody that we we know. 551 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: Now take a listen to Brian Mastri and Beth Bednor, 552 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: former anchor from k I M T A k A 553 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: a L, speaking to our friends at ID. 554 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 13: Investigators start to zero in on someone who was with 555 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 13: Jody the night before. They knew that she had been 556 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 13: with a friend twenty years her senior, John van Seiss. 557 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 14: John Vansiss is considerably older than her. Recently divos and 558 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 14: booked to Mason City. You've spent a lot of time together. 559 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 14: Two weeks time to her disappearance, John had a birthday 560 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 14: party for her to celebrate her twenty seventh birthday. 561 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 13: It seems as though he was the last one to 562 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 13: see Jody alive too. 563 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: Caroline Love investigative journalists and you can find her at 564 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: find Jody dot com, Find Jody podcast and Caroline low TV. Caroline, 565 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: who is this guy? And so he's the last one 566 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: to see her alive the night before. 567 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 9: That's what he says. His name is John van Seiss. 568 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 9: He was twenty two years older than Jody, and just 569 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 9: two days earlier that weekend, he and several of Jody's 570 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 9: friends had gotten together in northern Iowa to go on 571 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 9: a water skiing trip. Actually writes about him in her journal. 572 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 9: The last thing she writes about two days before she disappeared, 573 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 9: talks about what a great time she had with John 574 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 9: van Seiss her other friends Annie Cruz and Tammy Baker. 575 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 9: So he's an older friend who spent a lot of 576 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 9: time with her in the last couple months before she disappeared. 577 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: And to you, Jay Alberia, a former commander of Woodbury 578 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: Police Apartment. Jay did he he worked with her in 579 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: what capacity? 580 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 10: No, John Vancize did not work with her. With Jody, 581 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 10: there are acquaintances. As far as we know, John had 582 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 10: lived in the apartment complex at one time. That's possibly 583 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 10: where he met Jody that became friends. Had a mutual 584 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 10: interest in water skiing and John had a boat, so 585 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 10: John was taking her water skiing and we believed that 586 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 10: he was also helping her learn how to water ski. 587 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: To Joey and Nathy, what was her relationship with John 588 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: van Seiss. 589 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: Well, actually I didn't know about the guy till this 590 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: all happened. She had mentioned to my mom. My mom 591 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: cautioned hers that she was not really dating this guy, 592 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: but he was a friend and they know and stuff, 593 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: and my mom said, well, you better be careful because 594 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 4: you know he might be getting romantically interested in you. Oh, 595 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: we're just good friends, Jody would say, you know, and 596 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: so but I after hearing about after it all happened, 597 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: we know that he was quite obsessed with Jody. 598 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: Why did you say that? 599 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: Oh, just he wanted always be around her and he 600 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 4: wanted to you know. He said he even named his 601 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: boat after her, which was odd. And the friends knew 602 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: that too, and they cautioned Jody. They said, Jody, are 603 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 4: you sure that John isn't more interested in you than 604 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 4: you think? And it was just very obvious that he 605 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 4: that he has been was very interested in her. 606 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a matter of fact, you're absolutely correct, Joeyne Nathan, 607 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: this is Jody's sister in joining us. Take a listen 608 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: to Mary McGuire k I m t forcibly the role. 609 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 17: Of both journalist and friend Robin wolf from ordered on 610 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 17: the disappearance. Even interviewing the man who Jody was seen 611 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 17: with last what was his demeanor like. 612 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 8: A joyful almost strangely happy and telling me how he 613 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 8: named his boat after and how he just loved her. 614 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 17: She has no doubt in her mind that man, an 615 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 17: older gentleman who is friends with Jody, is the one 616 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 17: responsible for her disappearance. 617 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 8: I cautioned Jody about their friendship in television. 618 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 3: We have a gut incident about things. 619 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 8: My gut and my instinct tells me that he's responsible. 620 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 17: But Wolfram isn't the only one who shares those same 621 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 17: suspicions about him. Last March find Jody dot Com, a 622 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 17: website dedicated to the case, reported Mason City police served 623 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 17: him with a search warrant seeking GPS data on two 624 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 17: of his cars. 625 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Straight out to Caroline Low, Caroline, what can you tell 626 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: me about the source warrant served on this guy? This 627 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: much older gentleman twenty two years her senior, that a 628 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: currently was besotted with her. 629 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 9: The search warrants occurred in twenty seventeen, and while what 630 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 9: the police were seeking was two vehicles associated with John 631 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 9: van Seiss, vehicles that he did not have back in 632 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 9: nineteen ninety five, they weren't manufactured till a few years later. 633 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 9: We don't know specifically what they were seeking their probable 634 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 9: cause statement, the affidavit is not public. What we do know, 635 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 9: as they said, is they were after she disappeared. The 636 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 9: possible theory is that they were seeking to see if 637 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 9: maybe he was going to some kind of a crime 638 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 9: scene when he was back in Iowa. He was subpoened 639 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 9: before a federal grand jury in that same month, where 640 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 9: he was ordered to provide palm prints, fingerprints, and DNA sample. 641 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 9: But we don't know, and the chief later said it 642 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 9: did not produce any evidence. 643 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm guessing Wendy Patrick that they would want to compare. 644 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: He has not been named as a suspect. Number one. 645 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: Let's just state that any potential palm prints or fingerprints 646 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: is something found on that car. 647 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, and you know the Joe Anne and your 648 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 5: other guests what we've done is we bumped the timeline 649 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 5: back to even the night before. So you talk about 650 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 5: that palm print, where it came from, who might have 651 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 5: made it. Now we're sweeping in people that may have 652 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 5: seen her within even the last twelve hours. And yes, 653 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 5: you know forensics, I know this happens a long time ago, 654 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 5: but we still today had some of what we had 655 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 5: even back then. Google fashion forensics, especially in a case 656 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 5: like this where that's all that they had left at 657 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 5: the scene. There was no footage or cell phone pinging 658 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: like we do nowadays. A pall print like that would 659 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 5: have been an enormous piece of evidence. 660 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 18: It's a new information has come out from that twenty 661 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 18: seventeen search warrant which shows the GPS tracking data of 662 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 18: a car owned by that person of interest. He died 663 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 18: December of last year. The data tracks a vehicle during 664 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 18: the four day span as it traveled from Baxter, Iowa, 665 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 18: through Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and New Mexico before stopping 666 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 18: in Phoenix. The rest of the information has not been released. 667 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: It could have been anyone. Everybody in the area knows 668 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: Jody who's in truth. They see her every single morning. 669 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Jennifer Austin KA r E eleven. 670 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 16: Don't think because the world is concerned with other news, 671 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 16: that she's forgotten. 672 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 19: Caroline Lowe is an investigative journalist and part of the 673 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 19: Find Jody Team, a group of investigators who continued to 674 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 19: look into the unsolved case. 675 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 20: What happened to Jody. 676 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 19: They launched a podcast this month on what would have 677 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 19: been Jody's fifty second birthday, hoping to keep eyes on 678 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 19: her story and find answers about what happened the early 679 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 19: morning of June twenty seventh, nineteen ninety five, when Jody 680 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 19: left her apartment late for her job anchoring the morning news. 681 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: America's most highly publicized missing children. 682 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 3: She never made it. 683 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 12: She was very easy to follow. 684 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 16: You knew her schedule anchoring the six Am and New news, 685 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 16: her home number for address or even lists of the 686 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 16: local directory. She would have been very easy to find. 687 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: What could have been done differently? And can there be 688 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: a save? Take a listen to our cut sixteen A. 689 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: This is Laurley ABC six KAA l listen. 690 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 20: I can't remember Jodie ever being or late for work. 691 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 4: She's a professional journalism journalist. 692 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 12: Then general manager John Shine seen during a press conference 693 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 12: later that day, describing a very different Jody, a devoted 694 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 12: employee who took her job seriously. 695 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 20: I've made it clear this case is not going to 696 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 20: go away for us. 697 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 12: For many decades, this case has puzzled the Mason City 698 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 12: Police Department. What do you think you, as chief can 699 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 12: do different than the chiefs prior to you that have 700 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 12: had this case under their tail and nothing has come about. 701 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 20: I'm not going to sit here in second guess decisions 702 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 20: made officers in the field twenty five years ago about 703 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 20: what they did. I will tell you that I don't 704 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 20: believe that any of them probably thought that we would 705 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 20: still be working this case today. 706 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 12: Chief Jeff Brankley says bringing a fresh pair of eyes 707 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 12: to the case could help. 708 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 20: Cold cases I think are of interest to a lot 709 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 20: of people. It's obviously a case that affected Mason City, 710 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 20: and so if we could put some closure to that, 711 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 20: I'm interested in doing that. 712 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: To Caroline Low, Investigative journalists find Jody dot com Caroline, 713 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: where does it stand now? There was one reporting of 714 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: a body found out a Mason City river. We don't 715 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: believe it remains. We don't believe that was Jody a 716 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: PI popped up and said he had information that he 717 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: is still not shared with anyone in the family. Have 718 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: there been any developments, Caroline that we could really sink 719 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: our teeth into. 720 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 9: Nancy, I really wish I could say there were, and 721 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 9: we get tips all the time at find Jody dot com, 722 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 9: but we have no information that authorities, anybody is any 723 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 9: closer to finding Jody, Hues and Troup today than they 724 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 9: were years ago. 725 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: To Joeanne Nathan, this is Jody's sister, Joanne, what is 726 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: your most vivid memory of your sister Jody. 727 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 4: Well, she was always still very caring about us, so 728 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 4: I just wanted us to be happy. That was a 729 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 4: big interest, you know. If she was working at a 730 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 4: resort and her time off, she did invite us up 731 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 4: to use the facilities, and oh she was just so bubbly. 732 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 4: She has personality. Plus you know, she probably didn't have 733 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 4: the best speaking ability necessarily, but all her personality on 734 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: the air just came through. I know, Doug Murbrick told 735 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 4: me the ratings were very high and one thing though, 736 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 4: she revealed too much about her personal life on the 737 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 4: air also, but that's you know, Jody. 738 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 5: She was so. 739 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 4: Personable with everyone, and people felt they really really knew her. 740 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 4: And all you need is somebody who was not playing 741 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 4: with a full deck to become obsessed and sitting and 742 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 4: listening to her daily routine. She would often talk where 743 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 4: she went jogging and what activity she was going to 744 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 4: do that day, and she probably went. She probably did 745 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 4: too much of that on the air and it was 746 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 4: too personable, but they liked it. The viewers loved it. 747 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: Find Jody dot com We Wait as Justice unfolds. Goodbye Friends, 748 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: M