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Speaker 2: We have an amazing show for everybody today. What do

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Speaker 2: we have, Crystal?

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Speaker 1: Indeed, we do many big things to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: Trump of course found guilty on all charges related to

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Speaker 1: that hush money trial. We now have some pulling and

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Speaker 1: some interesting little old nuggets we can get into about

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Speaker 1: what this could mean politically. It's still a big question mark,

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Speaker 1: but some tea leads to read there. We also have

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Speaker 1: gathered for you a grouping of some of the most

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 1: We have more terrible news with regards to Ukraine. We're

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Speaker 1: now getting word that the has officially said, hey, go

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Speaker 1: This comes as they continue to have just horrible time

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Speaker 1: trying to conscript additional people as becoming a very serious

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Speaker 1: and very sensitive issue within Ukraine's will bring you that

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Speaker 1: as well. We've got some interesting highlights for you from

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Speaker 5: You are definitely going to want to stay tuned for

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Speaker 1: And obviously huge news domestically here with regard to Israelia.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and start with the Trump verdict op Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and start with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: He appeared yesterday on Fox and Friends for an extensive

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Speaker 3: Let's take a lesson.

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Speaker 6: Judge could decide to say, hey, house arrest or even jail.

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Speaker 4: It couldn't face that.

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Speaker 7: I'm okay with it. I saw one of my lawyers

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Speaker 7: If that was it. They never found anything. They hired

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Speaker 7: Who knows. But with all that, for years you heard

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Speaker 7: I think it would be tough for the public to take.

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Speaker 7: You know, at a certain point, there's a breaking point.

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Speaker 2: All right, at a certain point, there's a breaking point.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys see that there inside of it? No,

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Speaker 2: it's note worthy there though. To me, Crystal is obviously

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Speaker 2: attest to this too from our own ratings. We made

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Speaker 2: just say most people did not care very much about it.

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Speaker 2: But the actual verdict itself that cracks the barrier in

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Speaker 8: Google searches for Donald Trump. Look at this percentage up

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Speaker 8: three thousand, two hundred and thirty three percent at the

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Speaker 8: time of conviction versus the hour before. Kate, Americans were

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Speaker 9: Interest, though, of course, we cannot say, translates into impacts

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Speaker 9: the verdict impacts Donald Trump's political future. But what's the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what's the case We'll start here that it doesn't

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Speaker 3: Of course, these numbers were before the.

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Speaker 8: Conviction, and very few Trump supporters said they would be

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Speaker 8: pre conviction in early many of this was a Marquette

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Speaker 8: by three points, but they asked the hypothetical. When asked,

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Speaker 8: Now we see Joe Biden ahead by five points. Now,

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Speaker 8: of course this is a hypothetical question. We don't know

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Speaker 2: I think that's actually the best way to point out

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Speaker 2: difficult because that could have been factoring in the January

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Speaker 2: And what this verdict actually reminded me was what the

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Speaker 3: And eventual convictions would have looked.

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Speaker 2: Like, because clearly it broke through the public consciousness which

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Speaker 2: the actual verdict came through. But on this one, because

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Speaker 2: it is related to a twenty sixteen hush money sex

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Speaker 2: We'll see and at least bolster some of the Trump

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Speaker 2: claims of being persecuted, at the very least his own

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Speaker 2: supporters and others think that, let's put this up there

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Speaker 2: But you can see very clearly that this has brought

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I feel like people already knew

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Speaker 1: If I had to guess, it doesn't really move the

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Speaker 3: This time around, it's very simple.

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Speaker 10: I would really be shocked if this judge gave him

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Speaker 3: The modern right organization is a lot like the Black

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Speaker 2: no favor of talking about political violence.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen, you fight fire with fire.

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Speaker 6: Otherwise these Marxists are going to keep doing this and

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Speaker 6: Red State ags. You guys better start hammering these people.

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Speaker 6: You have the opportunity out They cleared the way. Look,

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Speaker 6: Democrats took what they alleged was a federal misdemeanor from

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Speaker 6: the FEC and made it a state felony thirty four

447
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Speaker 6: times over.

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Speaker 3: There's no rules, apparently, step up.

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Speaker 6: I'm not just talking you tyrants are about to awaken

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Speaker 6: a machine you don't want. You are pushing people to

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Speaker 6: the edge. The same party that is offended by the

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Speaker 6: wrong pronouns is pushing the party that owns ninety percent

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Speaker 6: of the guns, of which the majority defends our nation,

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Speaker 6: who mine our minerals, who build our skyscrapers and drive

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Speaker 6: our trucks. You weak people have no idea. You people

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Speaker 6: in your cities with your white shoe consultants' country clubs,

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Speaker 6: who thought prosecuting Trump was a good idea.

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Speaker 3: You have never met America.

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Speaker 6: You've watched that scene obviously in Braveheart, where they're all

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Speaker 6: online waiting for the British to charge them, and he's screaming,

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Speaker 6: hold folks, hold.

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Speaker 2: All right, same thing where it's like, chill, dude, it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a If Trump himself is not as worried

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Speaker 2: about it, then putting seventeen seventy six to twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four on the tombstone, we all don't need to go

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Speaker 2: that far. Take your cues actually from the leader, and

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Speaker 2: at the same time being like ninety percent of the

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Speaker 2: guns and base explicitly threatening some sort of like I

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Speaker 2: don't even know it's not insurrection, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess instead of a race war, we're doing like

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Speaker 1: a regional urban versus world war in this particular scenario

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Speaker 1: that he's not worried about, he's actively cheering for.

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Speaker 5: So there you go. That's great. Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Everything's look.

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Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, norms and all that things are breaking down.

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Speaker 2: Does that mean that we are literally on the verge

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Speaker 2: of civil war? No, And if you want to know why,

478
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Speaker 2: you should go read a book about this civil war

479
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Speaker 2: and how long it actually took to get to that point.

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Speaker 2: And we're nowhere even close to it, luckily, and we

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Speaker 2: should be happy about that sort of thing. Let's go

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Speaker 2: finally here to MSNBC and to Michael Cohen about why,

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Speaker 2: even though Trump was convicted in the New York court

484
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Speaker 2: of law with his own testimony, that he and everyone

485
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Speaker 2: at MSNBC.

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Speaker 3: Is still unsafe now that he is in prison. Let's

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Speaker 3: take a list.

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Speaker 4: And I'm afraid of him going to jail. I'm not

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Speaker 4: for him, not for his safety's that's on him. He's

490
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Speaker 4: got Secret Service protection. I'm more concerned for you and

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Speaker 4: for all of us and our families and for the

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Speaker 4: American people because this clown had four years of being

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Speaker 4: debriefed on national security issues on top of that, if

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Speaker 4: he becomes the Republican nominee, he gets debriefed again. Starting now,

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Speaker 4: think about this, America, think about.

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Speaker 5: This for a second.

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Speaker 4: My concern is in a prison situation, he's willing to

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Speaker 4: give away these secrets, as I always say, for a

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Speaker 4: begatuna or a book of stamps, and he will do

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Speaker 4: it because he doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: So he's such a fascist that he will still be

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Speaker 2: a threat to them in prison, and that he will

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Speaker 2: somehow trumb will be sitting there trading for a prison commissary.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, let me So that's my real question

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Speaker 2: to Michael Cohen, why do you think that a bilbol

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Speaker 2: of ramen is worth? Like knowing something about Iran that

507
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Speaker 2: doesn't get anybody in prison anything. It's more likely to

508
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Speaker 2: be like, hey man, let me get some of your cigarettes,

509
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Speaker 2: Like what are we doing?

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Speaker 5: I just can't stop laughing. And he said he would

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Speaker 5: trade them for a bag of tuna.

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Speaker 1: What a bag of tuna?

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Speaker 5: Listen?

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Speaker 1: If there was a risk I mean, and I think

515
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Speaker 1: there was a risk of Trump, like with the classified documents,

516
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Speaker 1: Like that's what that's a real problem, Like if he

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Speaker 1: was going to sell out our country. And I think

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Speaker 1: in many ways he already has like the Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. I think that damage has already been done.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what, you know, his selly really wants with.

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Speaker 5: The hes to have Rody and nuclear info or whatever

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Speaker 5: for his baggatuna. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's I just also love the MBC's standards

524
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Speaker 1: are so low. Anyone who's just willing to be against Trump,

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Speaker 1: You're now like besties. Michael Cohen has been one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent rehabbed, and you know, sitting there all cozy like

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Speaker 1: with Michael Steele and Simone Sanders, you know, really bipartisan

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Speaker 1: gathering of folks there who are all willing to.

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Speaker 3: See So you were correct.

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Speaker 2: That was Alicia Mendez who was sitting there at the desk,

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Speaker 2: who is Bobman then as his daughter, who actually did

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Speaker 2: sell secrets to foreign government for gold bars. And we're

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Speaker 2: all gonna sit there and be like, oh that wow,

534
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Speaker 2: so you need to Trump. It would never happen right

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Speaker 2: in this country. It's like your dad is literally being

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Speaker 2: indicted for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And of course and then sow, she's still a lot

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Speaker 3: on the air like look, that's a whole other conation.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to blame her for the sense

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Speaker 1: of her father, but it is awkward for her to

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Speaker 1: be sitting there condemning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's what I'm still listening to this guy.

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Speaker 5: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: She's Okay, she recused her from that coverage.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fine, you know, Okay, you know, I

547
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Speaker 2: think that's fine and handy, But you know, it's pretty

548
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Speaker 2: hypocritical to sit there just allow this stuff to happen

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Speaker 2: there without acknowledging what's going on.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the best we can show you now

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Speaker 2: for our roundup, and I'm sure we can have many

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Speaker 2: more deranged takes to come. So just sit back and

554
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Speaker 2: we'll we'll make sure to have it for you. Let's

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Speaker 2: move on now to Ukraine. This is actually a much more,

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Speaker 2: much more serious situation that broke over the weekend. Let's

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Speaker 2: go in put this up there on the screen. Biden

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Speaker 2: has now secretly given Ukraine permission to strike inside of

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Speaker 2: Russian territory with US weapons. This previously reversed more than

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Speaker 2: two years of US policy, and it was directly allowing

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Speaker 2: Ukraine to strike inside of Russia using US provided weapons,

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Speaker 2: including long range missiles, which previously had been off limits

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Speaker 2: for the Ukrainians. The reason why the Ukrainians are begging

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Speaker 2: for this is that they are suffering major defeats and

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Speaker 2: reversals on the battlefield. Russia has already just in the

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Speaker 2: last several months, taken more territory than the entire Ukrainian

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Speaker 2: counter offensive that was supposed to materialize such incredible gains.

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Speaker 2: I also want to make clear that the change in

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Speaker 2: this policy does not apply to is not just US

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Speaker 2: provided weapons being allowed to be used in crimea. We

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Speaker 2: are talking about Russian borders that have been well and

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Speaker 2: long acknowledged by both the United States, by Ukraine and

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Speaker 2: the international community. The Ukrainians allowing this or are Ukrainians

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Speaker 2: pushing for this again because of their shortages of manpower

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Speaker 2: and of their reversals on the battlefield, and the obvious

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Speaker 2: lesson that in a war of attrition which they are

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Speaker 2: in and they committed themselves to, they are going to lose,

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Speaker 2: and they are doing their absolute best to gamble as

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Speaker 2: much as they can while want basically trying to bring

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Speaker 2: the United States into this war.

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Speaker 3: And that is the most devastating part of this.

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Speaker 2: And just to show you what is life like in Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: why is this happening right now? Let's put this up

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Speaker 2: there on the screen. I'm going to talk over this.

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Speaker 2: This is a video just came out yesterday. Here you

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Speaker 2: can see which is not a young man. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is a graying, older gentleman being kidnapped off of

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Speaker 2: the street for conscription because he had been avoiding the draft.

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Speaker 3: Plucked.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be taken directly to a center, He's

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Speaker 2: going to be recruited into the military forcibly conscripted. He's

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Speaker 2: going to have weapons in his hands before you know it.

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Speaker 2: And doesn't take a genius to see that people like

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Speaker 2: this were the average age is some forty to fifty

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Speaker 2: years old. Who even knows now at this point, let's

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Speaker 2: put this up there. It shows us that the basic training,

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Speaker 2: so called amazing training run by the United States government

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Speaker 2: here basic training is quote barely covering the basics. Even

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Speaker 2: Ukraine's own commanders in the field say they are bracing

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Speaker 2: for most of the new troops under a conscription law

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Speaker 2: to arrive with poor training. So it turns out, Crystal,

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Speaker 2: that whenever you forcibly kidnap and conscript like all of

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Speaker 2: these old men, force them through basic training with subpar weapons,

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Speaker 2: barely even knowing how to operate, knowing that they're likely

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Speaker 2: marching to their deaths, that they are not going to

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Speaker 2: be fighting effectively. So this is the most dangerous situation

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Speaker 2: all around, and it has already revived the recent threats

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Speaker 2: of tactical nuclear weapons. The threats from the Russians have

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Speaker 2: come from the highest level, from Putin and from dimitriy Medvedev.

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Speaker 3: And of course the responses, well, they've never done before.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, you only have to be wrong once,

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Speaker 2: and this is this is single handedly the most dangerous

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Speaker 2: escalatory situation in Ukraine since the beginning of the entire war.

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Speaker 2: And yet it's like the media everybody else is celebrating it.

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Speaker 2: Just the last thing I want to add here I

616
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Speaker 2: found this out this morning. I'm honestly repulsed by it.

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Speaker 2: Is that Zelenski will be honored and joined will be

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Speaker 2: honored at D Day celebrations in France, where Russia was

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Speaker 2: explicitly not invited, even though Soviet troops, you know, had

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Speaker 2: a major role, i would say, the highest role in

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Speaker 2: actually defeating the Hitler regime. And Zelensky just recently honored

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Speaker 2: a literal Nazi at the ss an ss Nazi at.

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Speaker 3: The Canadian Parliament.

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Speaker 2: We are like excluding Russia here from the D Day celebration,

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Speaker 2: which they had always been a part of. Even you know,

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Speaker 2: during the whole Soviet Union, the entire idea was, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're not getting along now, but we came together and

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Speaker 2: we beat Hitler. Let's at least celebrate a little bit

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Speaker 2: of that and honor the men who died on that day.

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Speaker 2: We're turning it into this repulsive like game where we're

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Speaker 2: looking at Ukraine as important as an occupied France in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen forties. So all of the set, you know,

633
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: everything is set right now, from the NATO powers who

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Speaker 2: want to put their troops inside of Ukraine, the Russians

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Speaker 2: want to use tactical nuclear weapons. The Biden administration basically

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Speaker 2: sleep walking US now to this situation. And there's no outrage,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the American public because they don't really

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Speaker 2: understand still the stakes, it's all just been all the

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00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: risks have been hidden from them, and the truth about

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Speaker 2: this conflict.

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Speaker 1: It's just profoundly sad too. Like that's that video, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just awful. Joe Biden is feeding Ukrainian men into

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Speaker 1: a meat grinder out of political cowardice. He knows and

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Speaker 1: his whole administration knows that this war is lost.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: There is no plan to win, there's no plan to

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Speaker 1: take back the territory. Such a thing as really, you know,

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Speaker 1: without us actively going all in is not possible.

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Speaker 5: So what's the plan.

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Speaker 1: A plan is just to bumble through through election day

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Speaker 1: and you know, do enough so that there aren't major

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Speaker 1: territorial losses. That's the reason for greenlighting now the strikes

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Speaker 1: inside of Russia.

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Speaker 5: Hope Americans aren't.

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Speaker 1: Really focused on this, aren't really paying attention, aren't really

656
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Speaker 1: upset by it, and figure it out on another day.

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, Yeah, men like that the one

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Speaker 1: that you saw getting dragged off the street are being

659
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Speaker 1: sent into a meat grinder with very little hope that

660
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Speaker 1: they will be able to survive intact. I mean, if

661
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Speaker 1: you read that article about the training and the conditions,

662
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Speaker 1: you'll be horrified because they're openly saying, I mean, people

663
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Speaker 1: in the military who are responsible for these brigades are saying, like,

664
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Speaker 1: we're being forced to take fifty year old men who

665
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Speaker 1: have basically never held a weapon before, who have bad

666
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Speaker 1: knees and bad backs and don't want to fight, Like,

667
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Speaker 1: what chance do you think.

668
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Speaker 5: That they have people who were previously.

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Speaker 1: On you know, non combat duty, you know, guarding a

670
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Speaker 1: bridge something like that, are now being shipped to the

671
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Speaker 1: front lines, also totally unprepared and with various medical problems.

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Speaker 5: It's horrifying.

673
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Speaker 1: And part of the problem is, listen, the biggest problem

674
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Speaker 1: is actually lack of manpower.

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Speaker 5: Another problem in terms of.

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Speaker 1: The training is they're so low on like ammo grenades,

677
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: grenade launchers that how do you train people if you

678
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Speaker 1: don't just have like the material to be able to

679
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: get them some practice in You don't have time to

680
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: properly train people because you got to ship them right

681
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Speaker 1: to the front lines. It's just so incredibly sad, and

682
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: at this point there's just a suspension of reality. Biden

683
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Speaker 1: is hoping there can be a long enough suspension, suspension

684
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Speaker 1: of reality for him to get through his reelect. And

685
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Speaker 1: you know, it is these Ukrainians who are really paying

686
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Speaker 1: the price. They just passed this additional conscription law to

687
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Speaker 1: conscript more Ukrainians and ship them to the front lines

688
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Speaker 1: because the situation with manpower is so dire. This has

689
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Speaker 1: become a very politically sensitive, difficult issue inside of Ukrainian society,

690
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Speaker 1: as you can imagine, and seems like the one we

691
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Speaker 1: just played your playing out all over the place.

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Speaker 3: And you've got six hundred thousand military draft age males

693
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Speaker 3: that are eligible but fled Ukraine. They bribe their way

694
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Speaker 3: out of it.

695
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Speaker 2: The Ukrainian government is now pressuring the Polish government, the

696
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Speaker 2: Austrian government, and all of the surrounding NATO territory to

697
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Speaker 2: have their police forcibly deport all of these Ukrainians who

698
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Speaker 2: have been living large largely in all of these countries.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them are rich.

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Speaker 2: When I was in Hungary, basically what I was told

701
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Speaker 2: is that a lot of these guys may be Ukrainian

702
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Speaker 2: on paper, but they're ethnic Hungarians and they have no

703
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Speaker 2: loyalty to the regime and they have no desire to fight.

704
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Speaker 2: But now they possibly, you know, could be at risk.

705
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Speaker 2: It's likely the Hungarian government will shield them at least,

706
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Speaker 2: but for everybody else, if you're ethnic Ukrainian, you're living,

707
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Speaker 2: you're living the good life in Germany or somewhere else,

708
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: they're coming for you. They know that you're there, and

709
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: they're going to try and to deport and to get

710
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: their hands on you at the same time, you know,

711
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: the international situation with regards to Ukraine could actually not

712
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: be worse for them.

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Speaker 3: Let's put this up there on the screen. Don't believe me,

714
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Speaker 3: ask him.

715
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Speaker 2: Zelenski says that China, quote is helping Russia undermine a

716
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Speaker 2: peace summit on Ukraine, and that Chinese assistance to Russia

717
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Speaker 2: is prolonging the war. He recently visited Singapore to try

718
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Speaker 2: and to try and get Asian and developing countries to

719
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Speaker 2: come to Switzerland, where he was hoping to host a

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Speaker 2: peace summit. Basically, the goal of this peace summit is

721
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Speaker 2: to get the entire international community to back the Western

722
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Speaker 2: Framework on Ukraine, which basically says Ukraine at the end

723
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Speaker 2: of this war will take back not only all of

724
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Speaker 2: its territory that Russia has taken since the invasion of

725
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, but Crimea as well. And obviously, most people,

726
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Speaker 2: including any reasonable person, thinks that's ridiculous and that's not

727
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Speaker 2: going to happen. And the Chinese at this point have

728
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Speaker 2: been not only propping up the Russians, but have been

729
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Speaker 2: the major beneficiaries of this entire conflict.

730
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Speaker 3: Russia is basically a vassal state to China today.

731
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Speaker 2: In terms of their trade, in terms of their financial system,

732
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Speaker 2: and probably in terms of weapons if things ever go south,

733
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Speaker 2: they're definitely being helped in buying things from the North Koreans.

734
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Speaker 2: So the point is is that the great powers who

735
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Speaker 2: are against the US here in the conflict and against

736
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Speaker 2: the West are basically undermining any attempt to try and

737
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Speaker 2: put some Western style framework in. So all of the

738
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: momentum right now is with Russia. They've got the Chinese

739
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Speaker 2: on their side. The Ukrainians are losing. We're getting increasingly desperate.

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Speaker 2: The only hope that Ukraine has is to somehow drag

741
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Speaker 2: the US here. I mean, I don't know if you've

742
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: seen this, Crystal, but the British are currently floating putting

743
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Speaker 2: trainers inside Ukraine, actually on Ukrainian soil to try and

744
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Speaker 2: prop up these fifty year old guys.

745
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Speaker 3: And the Russians were very clear, They're like, we're gonna

746
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Speaker 3: kill them. They're like, if you put them there, we

747
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Speaker 3: will kill them.

748
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Speaker 2: And now we are in an Article five situation of

749
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Speaker 2: what does that mean? And then what does Biden does

750
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Speaker 2: that it is that it are we going? I mean,

751
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Speaker 2: this is really scary stuff.

752
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Speaker 1: In fairness with regard to the China Russia relationship. I

753
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Speaker 1: was just seeing this this morning. China appears to be

754
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Speaker 1: kind of picking their spots, of course, so Russia had come.

755
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Speaker 5: To them with the major requests.

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Speaker 1: One is, they've been trying to lock in this Russia

757
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: China pipeline deal, and that is falling apart because the

758
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: Russians aren't happy with the Chinese price demands, so that

759
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: has basically stalled. You also had a request from Russia

760
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Speaker 1: to for China to allow more Chinese banking in spite

761
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Speaker 1: of potential US sanctions. China also said no to that.

762
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Speaker 1: It was only that third thing of like, well, just

763
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Speaker 1: at least don't go to their little piece summit that

764
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Speaker 1: they agreed to. So just to you know, flesh out

765
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Speaker 1: that picture with regard to to China support with Russia.

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Speaker 1: There's also something else kind of interesting happening with regard

767
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Speaker 1: to Zelenski's positioning in the world. So immediately after October seventh,

768
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Speaker 1: he really came out very strongly singling support for Israel.

769
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of reasons for that obviously,

770
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Speaker 1: but in particular the.

771
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Speaker 5: Fact that they are our vassal state, and so he

772
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Speaker 5: feels like you know I need to please my master's here,

773
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Speaker 5: but as part of putting a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of stock in this quote unquote peace summit that Zelensky

775
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: is pulling together, he really wanted.

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Speaker 5: To attract a lot of the developing world.

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Speaker 1: And there's a realization number one, there on a wildly

778
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: different place with regard to Palestine than what we have signaled.

779
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Speaker 1: So he has changed his messaging there quite significantly. And

780
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Speaker 1: I think there also probably is a realization of like

781
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: it's very blatant, it really undercuts the US Western narrative

782
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: that our involvement with Ukraine is all about democracy and

783
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: human rights, when we're so blatantly hypocritical when it comes

784
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: to our support of Israel, and suddenly we don't care

785
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: so much about human rights. We don't even really know

786
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: what the words human rights means anymore when it comes

787
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: to Israel. I think there's a realization that that has

788
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: really undercut his position and his sort of moral standing

789
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: and an ability to make this case. So he has

790
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: really changed his tune with regard to Palestine, an attempt

791
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Speaker 1: to appeal to the developing world and potentially to keep

792
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: from China from going even further along and even further

793
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Speaker 1: in with Russia. So I thought was kind of an

794
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: interesting shift as well, because there's no doubt about it,

795
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: like our politicians on both sides of the Aisle, a

796
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: complete fealty to Israel has not served them in terms

797
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: of their regard. In one sense, it did though, because

798
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that their aid would have gotten through

799
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: if they hadn't like locked it in with the Israel

800
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: Aid and use that in order to get those billions passed.

801
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: But in terms of the focus and the you know

802
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: energy around that and the just like diehard commitment to

803
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian cause, that has definitely been supplanted among the

804
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: bipartisan elite in favor of, you know, being all in

805
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: for Israel's genocide on Gaza.

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00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: Well it's so obvious.

807
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, human rights and the ICC and Vladimir

808
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: Putin is a war criminal, and they're like, oh, hold, honestly,

809
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: let's let's just change our tune on all of that.

810
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: And like I said, I think it was BS in

811
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: the first place, and that was this entire thing has

812
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: been a foolish you know errand but we are all

813
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: starting to see what it looks like whenever they get

814
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: actually desperate and as the desperation increases in Ukraine, all

815
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 2: of are far less safe. That's what we've always said,

816
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: is that the worst things get for them, or the

817
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: better things get for them. Ironically, that's actually whenever we're

818
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: the most danger of getting into some sustained and tit

819
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: for tat escalation that nobody could or that we could

820
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: see coming, but allegedly nobody in the establishment could actually

821
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: see coming. It's just at every single turn they choose

822
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 2: escalation instead of peace. And so if there does come

823
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: some major and broader conflict, it will be eminently predictable,

824
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: and it will be the fault of the bipartisan establishment

825
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: here in Washington now speaking of a bipartisan establishment media

826
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: and so much more. There was a fantastic moment in

827
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: the recent debate between Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo on

828
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: the PbD podcast. Chris Coomo, of course trying to resuscitate

829
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: himself into some sort of independent media figure. Truly, I

830
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: mean a repulsive individual to me, because it's somebody who

831
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: clearly then did not believe many of the things he

832
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: was saying whenever he was on CNN and was saying

833
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: for a paycheck, and is now trying to grift off

834
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: of independent media audiences and transform himself into some truth sayer. Well, Dave,

835
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: you know clearly had the receipts, and there was a

836
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: great moment here. Let's take a listen.

837
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Speaker 12: Obviously there was so much talk that they don't want

838
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 12: you to take ivermectin. Ivermectin is the way to go

839
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 12: take it. Joe Rogan got better from ivermectin. And by

840
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 12: the way, I don't like what people did to Joe

841
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 12: Rogan about ivermectin.

842
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 6: I don't you did it?

843
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 12: No, no, no, yes you did.

844
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 6: Find the clips, dude, find the clips you shamed Joe Rogan.

845
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: Find the said he is taking horse these armor.

846
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 5: You and Don Lemon were chuckling at him.

847
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: I'll go find you. Just saw the clip.

848
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 12: Watch I'm not chuckling. I'm listening to Don.

849
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 6: But no, no, no, there's.

850
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 11: What I'm talking about. Wasn't on there?

851
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: Here's absolutely they were.

852
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 11: Oh here do we have it?

853
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 6: Hold on, let's play the club.

854
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: Getting injecting drugs for animals and horse.

855
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 12: And people telling them to what person you know you

856
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 12: talk about like you know, cancel ca who to shame

857
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 12: ivermectin a d wormer?

858
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: Really they are shaming themselves. That's why they are shamed.

859
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: They're shaming themselves. So you're taking a DA.

860
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 11: You can't apologize for that.

861
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 8: This You weren't being clear that it was this, and

862
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 8: you know that.

863
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 5: Dude, you're being so dishonest.

864
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: Right now.

865
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Speaker 3: You were talking about ivermectin the drug.

866
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: You were not talking about this version of ivermactin.

867
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Speaker 12: Come on, I was responding to a situation where we

868
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 12: were told that this is what people were searching out

869
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 12: to take and nobody knew what it was going to

870
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 12: do to them. Look, I'm taking the drug right now.

871
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 12: Obviously I don't think it's all poison. I stopped calling

872
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 12: it the horse drug when you can you cannot like it.

873
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 12: CNN's chief medical officer, who was Sanjay Gupta, said to me,

874
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 12: you shouldn't just call it a horse d wormer. There's

875
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 12: a whole legitimate aspect of the drug. I wouldn't use

876
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 12: it for COVID nineteen, but it's not just a veterinary grade.

877
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 12: So I stopped calling it that.

878
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Then I went away, all right, come on, man,

879
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: I'm the clim there.

880
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: Went was so so good, and that's exactly what I'm

881
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: talking about. And now all of a sudden, he's like

882
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: Bobby Kennedy's biggest fan. And before that, you know, clearly

883
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: was going on YouTube and he started covering UFOs as shit.

884
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: Previously.

885
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: I can't stand people like that, who are just like

886
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: complete click whores. I'm out of nowhere, very yeah, leveraging

887
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: his like brother's famous brother and father's famous last name,

888
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: which is what he did. And then when he no

889
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: longer is respectable in real media because he can't get

890
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: a job at ABC or elsewhere and continue to propagate

891
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: the environment, he takes a look around and he's like, Okay,

892
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: you know there's some there's some work to be done

893
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: here on YouTube, and of course news or what is it,

894
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: what does he work for? News Nation or whatever? The

895
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: News Nation happy to pay him to get their domba. Yeah,

896
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: now he's got a look.

897
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: I don't know.

898
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know, Patrick, I don't know what the

899
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: hell they're doing over there. Maybe it's for moments, you know,

900
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: for something like this. If so, I think that's great

901
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: me personally, I mean, I can't just help but look

902
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: at this and just look at a dustin grifter. It's like,

903
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: what do you believe dude, By the way he reached

904
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: out to try and come on the show, and I

905
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: was like, you know, it's like, what.

906
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: Are we even going to talk to you about?

907
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: Because he's a liar as we all see here right here.

908
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: Props to Dave for exposing him, you know, and even

909
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: and being willing to go tet tet. But I mean, look,

910
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: there's so many there's so many instances like this where

911
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: it's don It actually is very similar. He's like, oh,

912
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's a YouTuber and he's like, oh,

913
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: you know, he won't disavow per se some of the

914
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: things he did previously when he's on CNN.

915
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: If anything, he's still trying to get back in over there.

916
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: But I would hope you know that people are willing

917
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: and able to see through this act here Crystal, because

918
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: really really irks me.

919
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: Maybe Cuoba could be good for accounterpoints Friday.

920
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, try to work well, then don't air this.

921
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: Because I got some idea. Sorry, no, you bring him

922
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: back a lot of Chris Quota memories for me with

923
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 5: regard to just like what do you actually stand?

924
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: It's very clear what he's say. He just stands for

925
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: himself being on TV.

926
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 5: Right there are a lot.

927
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: I've met a lot of people like this immediate. They

928
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: just have to be in the limeline. It really is

929
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: like an addiction, like I have to be on camera,

930
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: I have to have people paying attention to me, or

931
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: else I feel like I don't exist.

932
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 5: Yes, I think that's him.

933
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: I remember when he got COVID early in the COVID thing,

934
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: the whole basement thing, and then they did made a

935
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: big show he's emerging from the basement, and then it

936
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: comes out that he's been like out and about riding

937
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: his bike around and stuff spot in the neighborhood and

938
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: remember that.

939
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, not only that is even better.

940
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite clips actually that I personally

941
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: did just to toot my own work, where it turned

942
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: out that he had left in order to go tour

943
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: a multi billion dollar property for sale. And I was like,

944
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: who amongst us does not broken COVID protocol to go

945
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: and to tour a multi million dollar property in the Hampton's.

946
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a very common everyday experience. Yeah.

947
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Well, and he was so gross story, I mean, because

948
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: his brother was obviously, you know, the governor, and it

949
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: was a really critical moment and there were a lot

950
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: of really terrible and corrupt decisions that were made under

951
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: his brother as governor, and he would they would do

952
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: those fawning segments that were so disgusting on their face,

953
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: it's like, this is a serious person in power making

954
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: bad decisions that he at least deserves to be questioned.

955
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: But no, they joke about like the size of their

956
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: noses and mom's dinner and whatever. And then it comes

957
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: out even beyond that that not only was he doing

958
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: these you know, fluffy goofy segments with this very powerful person,

959
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: but he was also actively advising him on political and

960
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: campaign strategy in direct contravention of what Sannan claims to do,

961
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: and also lied about that. Yes, and that's how he

962
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: ultimately ended up, you know, after a long time, that

963
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: was part of what ended up getting him out at CNN.

964
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: But now, I mean, it's just it's very clear this

965
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: is a craven individual who was willing to say, like

966
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: whatever is convenient forum in.

967
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: The moment, You're right, And it's still to this day

968
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: BS that Cuomo was really taken down over me too,

969
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: when really what he did most impeachable offense was not

970
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: only his handling of the nursing home issue. But he

971
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: actively used state resources, if we'll all recall, to cover

972
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: up what was happening at those nursing homes and giving

973
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: referential testing, using state troopers to bust, you know, different samples.

974
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: I have not forgotten about that.

975
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: There are thousands of people who are dead because of

976
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo. You can go and ask a lot of

977
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: the people's parents or their family members who to this

978
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: day have not forgotten what he did. They're at the

979
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: behest of the insurance in the nursing home lobby. It

980
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 2: was repulsive what he did, and then Chris Cuomo helped

981
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: cover that up actively advised to try and kill some

982
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: of these me too stories. And like I said, is

983
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: now out here pretending like he is some you know,

984
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: independent thinker or whatever. So you know, at the very

985
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: least props to Dave. We should always be reminded of

986
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: like who these people are. I believe in forgiveness, but

987
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: only to a certain extent.

988
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: See two in that moment, because he gets caught and

989
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, show the clip, and it's like, oh, well,

990
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: here's the yeah, here literally here then and then he

991
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: starts to make well, you have to remember at the

992
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: time blah blah blah. It's like, you know, if you

993
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: had said that at the beginning, like this was the

994
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: narrative that was out there, and you know what, I

995
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: bought into that narrative, and I regret it. Okay, look

996
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: like you said, people learn, we make mistakes. You can

997
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: make this. That's so, that's one thing. But clearly he

998
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to come clean on any of that until

999
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: he got caught and he had to spin it in

1000
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: real time, and you know, it just it shows It

1001
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: shows the level of integrity there when when that's the dynamic,

1002
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, now that you're caught, now you're going

1003
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: to come up with some you know, after the fact

1004
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: rationalization of what was going.

1005
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: That's a great point too, And that's actually why I

1006
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: believe one of the great hallmarks is, you know, at

1007
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: least here on the independent media, if I were to

1008
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: ever appear and some and we'll be like, hey, you

1009
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: got X wrong, I'd be like, yeah, you're right, you

1010
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: are right, show the clip, correct the X, Y and Z.

1011
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: Here's why I thought, you know, at the time, I

1012
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: wouldn't be like no, you're a liar or sending something

1013
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: like this.

1014
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: But you know, for him.

1015
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: It's like you said, it's the ego and he has

1016
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: to I almost think there's like this weird thing going

1017
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: on here, Crystal, where he agreed to do this just

1018
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: because the limelight. He knew it would get tons of

1019
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: attention and views and at least he would get his

1020
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: name that's out there, and that's actually the mark of

1021
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: like a sick person, you know, who's working in this business.

1022
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess at the very least he got

1023
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: what he wanted.

1024
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 5: The man is not lacking an ego, right, That is

1025
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 5: certainly the case.

1026
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: That's right,