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Speaker 1: Oh hey everybody, it's me Ben O'Brien and we're back

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Speaker 1: for Quarantine cast daily number. What do we got, Phil?

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Speaker 1: Eight eight number eight, number eight. We've got my good

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Speaker 1: us off way back last week when times were different.

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Speaker 1: And uh are the good friend Shane Dorian, big wave surfer,

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Speaker 1: one of the best big wave surfers in the world,

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Speaker 1: but also is one of more passionate bow hunters you'll

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Speaker 1: ever meet. So we're gonna talk about our first trip

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Speaker 1: to Lanni and how that went. It's a great conversation,

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Speaker 1: so you enjoy it. But before we do all that, Phil, Um,

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Speaker 1: how much toilet paper you have in your house? Right now? Um?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to rob me tonight? What's happening here?

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Speaker 1: I'm prepared to No, No, Phil, Please give me some credit.

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Speaker 1: I have discovered an online toilet paper calculator called how

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Speaker 1: much toilet paper dot com, and this tool calculates how

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Speaker 1: much how long your stash of toilet paper will last

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Speaker 1: during a quarantine. So I just want to help you

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Speaker 1: as a public service to let you know, um, exactly

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Speaker 1: what how it'll how it'll affect you. So go ahead

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Speaker 1: and give me what did have you counted a number

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Speaker 1: of rolls of toilet paper? You have? I just did

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Speaker 1: because you said this might be a thing. Um, I am,

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Speaker 1: You're ruining. You're ruining. I wanted people to think it

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Speaker 1: was a surprise, Phil. Well, here's the thing I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be weird if if I just want

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Speaker 1: people to think you were prepared. Okay, Well I am,

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Speaker 1: and I just want everyone to know that I have

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Speaker 1: not bought toilet papers since this whole coronavirus thing started. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I currently have twenty three rolls of toilet paper

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Speaker 1: in my house. Three rolls. So you were hoarding before

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Speaker 1: it was cool. I just happened to buy a tun

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Speaker 1: hit the fan, right right? It wasn't was it was

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Speaker 1: a nice coincidence. What are the toilet visits per day

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Speaker 1: family of four, so what was this is getting personal?

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Speaker 1: Now I have the number of the number two visits

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Speaker 1: per day to the toilet. Okay, well, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to count the one year old. He's still wearing diapers.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Let's man, you have your wife, yourself, and

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Speaker 1: your child other child. Uh huh. And what about Mango?

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Speaker 1: Does Mango you strow the paper or does he go

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Speaker 1: not going well. Well, let's I'm gonna say four. Let's

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Speaker 1: say four. That's a healthy number. Well, I mean like

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Speaker 1: four total, not for per person, all four per person,

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Speaker 1: I also don't track my my wife's val movements. So ah,

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Speaker 1: well you should get to have a spreadsheet going okay,

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Speaker 1: going forward? That to me, I'll use it as a

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Speaker 1: We can all get in there together. All right, you're

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Speaker 1: you drum roll please, there it is you're we were

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Speaker 1: not going to put a rum roll in there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: your toilet paper will last ninety two days. I've got

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Speaker 1: I've got some time then. Yeah, so you've got roughly

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Speaker 1: you were holding before hoarding was cool. So congratulations Phil.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you know? What? Did you look? What

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Speaker 1: kind you have? Is a three ply? Uh? Sharmon? You

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Speaker 1: know it's sharmon. I don't know because they kind of

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Speaker 1: I just they sell two kinds of charmon at Costco.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna this week and next week, so you

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Speaker 1: to our regularly scheduled program here th HC. So just

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Speaker 1: just a little public service announcement, that's what we plan

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Speaker 1: to do. Of course, as with everything in the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: keep doing this UM for another eight eight episodes. Think

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Speaker 1: you hang with us there, Phil for that long. I

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Speaker 1: will be there also. You told me I have no choice.

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Speaker 1: You absolutely have no choice. So Phil will hang on

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Speaker 1: with us as long as I say, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: stories until the end of next week all the way

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Speaker 1: Shane Dorian, Sam Sohol Quarantine Cast number eight. Hey Shane Dorian,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me back on during

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Speaker 1: the quarantine cast. The quarantines gas has been going. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. Thank you for allowing us to be your break.

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Speaker 1: Stay hydrated, Stay hydrated. Um so tell us Shane. Those

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Speaker 1: everything about Shane you need to know it's Shane. Tell

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Speaker 1: got a big group of people going over to Hawaii

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00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: to hunt access dear, and uh, if you want, you

424
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: can buy a hunting license. And I was like, yeah,

425
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Like I could not say yes fast

426
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: enough As a photographer. Sam's one weakness is that like

427
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: I'll pay you five dollars and then you can hunt

428
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: and that's your and he's like, yes, yeah, soul. See

429
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: the problem with I mean, probably not a problem, but

430
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: I do get the question a lot, like you know,

431
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: um if you could choose between either having a gun

432
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: or a bow or a camera in your hand, what

433
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: would you choose. And I'm always going to choose the weapon.

434
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: And every time I shoot photos so I can hunt more,

435
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: not the other way around. So yeah, whenever I would

436
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: call saying be like, hey man, you know we're going

437
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: on a trip. We're doing it. I love to come

438
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: take some photos. If I could get him a tag,

439
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: I could also get an give myself a discount on

440
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: the on the photography rates. That's why I love you, Sammy.

441
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: Um Well, the first time we ever got that trip

442
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: with Rogan up in BC, I was like, we need

443
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: to come back and I want to have a tag

444
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: and I remember you going, Now that's the kind of

445
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: photographer I want in camp. Yeah. I don't want to

446
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: say riding on the sidelines. Yeah man, um so, Shane,

447
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: you want to give everybody a rundown on Lanai the

448
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: island kind of uh, the same kind of the hype

449
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: explanation you gave me when we we were hunting together

450
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: that got us so excited about it. Yeah. I think

451
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: I just kind of kind of probably overhyped it at

452
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: the time to you guys, But you know, at the

453
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, and that was a little

454
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: bit of a different time. But at the time, I

455
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: was going over till an I three or four times

456
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: a year. And and I have really a couple of

457
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: really good friends that live there full time that are

458
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: um Lanai residents, and they just it's the only place

459
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: in Hawaii that has um like legally broken up areas

460
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: for archery that you can get a tag um you know,

461
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: that's good for the whole year. Like you can basically

462
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: hunt three and sixty five days a year there with

463
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: your bow. And there's a lot of great archery opportunities there,

464
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: and um it's fun to be able to share that

465
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: with friends. And there's a lot of deer. There's high,

466
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: high numbers of deer, so many in fact, that they

467
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: need to call the deer a lot. So um So

468
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of fun to bow hunt because

469
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: there's not really a limit and you can just have

470
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: a blast and um so I just wanted you guys

471
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: to come experience it. And then um just you know, hunting,

472
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: hunting access deer and and and for me, they're they're

473
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: they're probably one of my very favorite animals to hunt.

474
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: They're incredibly challenging and incredibly delicious and beautiful creatures. And

475
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: to experience them in the rut and to see those

476
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: big bucks screaming their heads off and fighting and um,

477
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: they're just a blast a hunt and really hard make

478
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: you want to make you want to buy a gun

479
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: if you hunt them with a bow. Yeah, And it's

480
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: it's one of those situations one eyes, definitely. It's a

481
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: ninety thousand acre island. Um, but you're hunting kind of that.

482
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: We're hunting in the center of the island. There's a

483
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: big flat plane. It looks like a botanical garden. I

484
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: think Sam one time described it to me, and they

485
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: call it the Serengetti. Is that right? Is it the

486
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: Serengetti something like that. Yeah, they call it the Serengetti.

487
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: And it's just it's it's it's full. I don't know

488
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: how many deer per square yard there's, but there's thousands

489
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: of deer. There's thousands of deer. I mean, you can't

490
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you can't walk ten feet without spooking. A year about

491
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: what happens when you spook one deer they all run

492
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: to the water and swim to the mainland. Sounds really easy.

493
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: The way you're you're the way you're explaining it. And

494
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: if you don't set foot in there, if you just

495
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: pull up on the side of the road and you

496
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: glass it, you just go. That's got to be the

497
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: easiest hunt in the world. And if you have a

498
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: rifle in your hand, I think it is. So I

499
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: would like to use a coronavirus analogy in comparison to

500
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: scaring one axis dear. So each access dear that you

501
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: scare will scare on average three to five other access dear,

502
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: and as they run away, those three to five also

503
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: scare three to five. And all of a sudden you

504
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: have five hundred to a thousand deer running away making

505
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: a very shrill, high pitched like sound back at you,

506
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: which is just a man, it's just really like a

507
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: just f you, which is kind of funny and awesome

508
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: at the same time. Give it to a same Alright,

509
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: so I've been I should have been practicing before this.

510
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: I had it down when I was on on the island.

511
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: But uh so the scared access to your sounds like this.

512
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: They barked at you, right, So yeah, yeah, so they

513
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: call their you know, when they're in the rut, they

514
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: roar um, and then me to do that one too. Yeah,

515
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: go for it. How coolder though, when you can when

516
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: you're just sitting there and you're kind of like in

517
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: the middle of the day and you're kind of sitting

518
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: there eating your sandwich, and all of a sudden you

519
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: hear that like hundred yards away in you're just like

520
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: instantly in like stock mode where you just thought there

521
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: was nothing for miles and it's just I don't know,

522
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: okay boy, on a scale of one to ten, as

523
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: like between all your hunting experiences collectively hunting access deer

524
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: in Hawaii on a scale of one to tend, factoring

525
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: in like the challenge, the meat quality, the the super

526
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: fun times socially with friends, and like just the as

527
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: far as like having a blast bow hunting for deer. Yeah,

528
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean I last based on my last time there,

529
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: uh a nine point nine. Yeah, I mean it's a

530
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 1: it's well, it's definitely over a nine. That hunt is

531
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: you just it's you can't describe how good it is.

532
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: And and you know, it's just like you said, Shane,

533
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: when you if you were to look across that landscape,

534
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: you would think, oh, there's a simple hunt. It's a

535
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: it's flat as a pancake, but there's a lot of

536
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: uh flora, there's a lot of cover to belly crawl

537
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: to get down to get close. Um. But there's so

538
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: many deer and they're so on edge. They've trained that

539
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: way in their native ranges of India by Bengal tigers,

540
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: and it's it baked in their genetics to be spooky,

541
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: probably the spooky's animal I've ever hunted. And it's not

542
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: even close. But if you would, if you would, just

543
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: like imagine Sam's analogy of like a virus spreading one

544
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: dear spooks and next thing you know, it's over and

545
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: you have to sit there and sadly watch I don't

546
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: know how many groups of like hundred deer I well,

547
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: I sat and just sadly watched runoff who knows countless well.

548
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: And it's and it's funny because when when you're bow

549
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: hunting in there, and I've I've bow hunted there with

550
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: no group where it was just me a lot of times,

551
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: and I went from like being able to glass literally

552
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: at one time deer at once, like from from one

553
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: place where I was standing, I was glassinger, and within

554
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes there wasn't a single deer there because I

555
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: spooked them all, you know, like just one one bunch,

556
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: spooked like four more bunches, and they all just kept

557
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: spooking all the way until there was like basically none

558
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: left in that whole zone, and I just there's just

559
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: going what And of course there were still deer in there,

560
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: but it was just amazing how fast they can it

561
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: can go from they're all out there frolicking and feeding,

562
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: two they're all running full speed like they got shot

563
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: out of a cannon. I know, you could go in

564
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: a week long mule deer hunt and not smook spook

565
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: a mule deer like I've done that. You want mule

566
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: deer for five or six days and not spook one

567
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: or spook of just a few here and there, And

568
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: you have to deal with that as like a failure.

569
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: What what access you're hunting is, especially on one eye,

570
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: is just successive failing failure than another failure, than another failure,

571
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: than another failure, and eventually you get lucky enough to

572
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: put an arrow in one um and it's a huge thing.

573
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: But I remember the first time I went out there,

574
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know how long did belly crawl but I

575
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: felt like, well, if I just keep belly crawl in

576
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: this direction, if I just stay, if I just plant

577
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: my ass in the red dirt, and I stayed, and

578
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: I just crawled south with the wind in my face,

579
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: I'll eventually come on a good shot. But that almost

580
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: never happens. Can you imagine living there full time and

581
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: having like a normal, say like a nine to five

582
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: or like a normal, a normal job where like you

583
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: get off work and you can go bow hunt deer

584
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: every single day, three sixty five days a year and

585
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: almost guaranteed get under fifty yards of a deer every

586
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: single day of your life and have no limit as

587
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: far as and they just be yeah, and you have Bob.

588
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Bob the butcher. We should imagine how

589
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: how crazy you're you're like learning curve acceleration would be

590
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: as a bow hunter. They think of the amount of

591
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: experience and and and interactions with deer and like actual

592
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: great opportunities of drawing your bow back and like you know,

593
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: picking a spot and going through your whole shot process

594
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: and belly crawling and learning when to draw and all

595
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: that stuff, Like how how how much experience? Like it's

596
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: arguable that like Jason Madaros is a really good friend

597
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: of mine who lives on the Nai, who basically bow

598
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: hunts probably five days a week for the last thirty years.

599
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's like realistic to think that he's

600
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: probably bow hunted more than almost anyone on Earth. Um,

601
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: there's not very many people who have probably bow hunted

602
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: as much as him, and he probably has more experience

603
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: than most people do in their whole lives, you know,

604
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: in in like a in like a two year period. Yeah,

605
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: breta j Um, Yeah, you're right about that. And and

606
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: the other thing is it's it's spot and stock bow

607
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: hunting for sure, but it's also if you can learn

608
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: that animal and kind of pattern the unpatternable and in

609
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: terms of how many do you there are and where

610
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: they're going to be and where you need to be

611
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: where the winds gonna be predominantly because you're dealing with

612
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: you like winds off the ocean. Um. That is that's

613
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: a next that's a skill that can be transferred almost anywhere,

614
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, just just that it just measuring a

615
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: mule deer or an elk or a fallow deer or

616
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: any other thing that you and I have ever hunted, Shane,

617
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: measuring that against an access to here, You're gonna be better.

618
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: It's like lifting weights, You're gonna be stronger, and it's

619
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: everything else is gonna feel lighter. Yeah, that's what I

620
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: love about them. That's what I love about them is

621
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: is every time I I hunt them, even if I'm unsuccessful,

622
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: I feel like I've gotten better. Just because you have,

623
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: you get a lot of opportunities. Even if you blow

624
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: those opportunities, you get a ton of opportunities, Like you

625
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: could go mule deer hunting for a week and just

626
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: get a bunch of exercise, you know. And I love

627
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: mule deer hunting. I love mule deer like they're right

628
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: at the top of my list. But there there, there's

629
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: there's times where you go for days where you just

630
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: feel like all you did was hike from ridge to

631
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: ridge in glass you know, Yeah, which is not that

632
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: bad either, But it is fun to get tons of opportunities. Yeah,

633
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: that's it's And and I know Joe Rogan has said

634
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: on his podcast and stuff he's talked about before, like

635
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: it's a great practice and people he's told me that

636
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: people give him a lot of shit about that, because

637
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: you're what you want to be practicing. But he doesn't

638
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: mean practicing killing things. He means practicing the art of

639
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: spot and stock big game hunting and know and when

640
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: to draw, when to shoot, what to do. I mean,

641
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: there's no like you said, the amount of opportunity that

642
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: you run into provides for the ultimate training. Um. And

643
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: that's just a fact that the fact of how it is.

644
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of spotting stock antelope hunting,

645
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: but like tenfold. Yeah, And it's just to be able

646
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: to like be like like you guys are saying, like

647
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: just to be on stocks all day every day, Like

648
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: you just start to learn and pick stuff up and

649
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: do different stuff like the whole way through, and you

650
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: get better. You get better every single time you're out there.

651
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: That's right. So do you shange? You remember that first

652
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: time I remember gathering at the condo, was there on

653
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: the island. It was Dudley, Me, you, Sam, Joe and

654
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: Joe I think was the whole crew that time. Um,

655
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect. I have a story

656
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: of making the best shot of my life that was

657
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: almost as silly. It was as much luck as it

658
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: was the determination, But I had I personally had been

659
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: practicing in my backyard in Texas at eighty yards every night,

660
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: go out and shoot the sulks target at eighty yards

661
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: every night, boom boom boom. And I felt pretty good

662
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: about going into it after what you had said, you know,

663
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: about the opportunities, about how hard it was, and I

664
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: was pretty pumped up. Like with our crew, I knew

665
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: that you know, with your your experience on the island

666
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: with you know, anybody knows who John Dudley is. He's

667
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: one of the best uh bow shots that you're gonna find.

668
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: And and here we were trying to trying to accomplish this,

669
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to mess it up. So I've

670
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: been practicing my ass off and I was kind of

671
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: it was I was pretty nervous going into it. Well

672
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: you remember that Shane kind of like how we can

673
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: how we were gonna attack this first hont Yeah. I remember,

674
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: just you know, really wanting you guys to have a

675
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: lot of transparency to what you were getting into. You know,

676
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: like every time I go hunting somewhere i've never been before,

677
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: or hunting an animal I've never hunted before, I want

678
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: to know everything like I don't know about the terrain,

679
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: what kind of boots I need to use, what kind

680
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: of kind of clothes to bring, like whether it's like

681
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: a cold weather hunt, whether I need to bring rain gear,

682
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: like what kind of pack I want? Details? So I

683
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: try to be really transparent and you know exactly what

684
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: to expect. And I was like, dude, it's gonna be hot,

685
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna trap loads of animals, and it's gonna be

686
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: hard as hell. So if you can shoot sixty yards

687
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: and you can belly crawl, you're gonna get a lot

688
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: of opportunities. So, um, I remember, just it's really a

689
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: simple hunt. It just it's really really challenging, and you've

690
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: got to be able to stay super low, goes super slow,

691
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: and it helps, It helps so much if you can shoot.

692
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: For Yeah, at the first that we went out, it

693
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: was me and you together. I remember the first time

694
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: I got to hunt, and it was it was an

695
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: education just there you immediately we got out of the

696
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: truck and walk like twenty yards into the into the bushes,

697
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: and you already had your face max up and you

698
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: were on your hands and knees and I was looking

699
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: around him, like, um, what are you doing, man, do

700
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: you want to glass a little bit? You want to

701
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: look around, Let's maybe like check the wind, and you

702
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: were just I look up and you were just crawling

703
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: off in one direction. Okay, man, I guess I'll do that.

704
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: They're everywhere. They're everywhere. Get down, get like a war

705
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: zone in there, dude. They're they're literally and they're kind

706
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: of smaller animals in the grass. It's kind of tall,

707
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: and so they hied really well. And it's not like

708
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Mulder where like you're like, hey, there's a buck in

709
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: two doughs, or there's three bucks right there. It's like,

710
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, like with access here, if you see five,

711
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: there's probably you know. Yeah, it's hard for me. I

712
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: don't know about you, guys. I don't Sam, I don't

713
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: know about you. But it's hard for me to remember

714
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: specific stocks from those hunts because there's so many. I

715
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: just remember, like remember like a series of failures when

716
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Shane was there, but I don't remember specific like oh,

717
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: this book, he looked like this and he was doing

718
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: trying to say it was that my fault. That there

719
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of was there. But I remember Ship,

720
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: I remember you saying like we should split up. I'm

721
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: always saying that, dude, Yeah, I know, I know it.

722
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: So being being the photographer, like obviously there were so

723
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: many stocks like when I was shooting photos of somebody

724
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: else that a lot of those like kind of all

725
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: blurred together. But because I had so limited time like

726
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: to hunt for myself, I definitely remember those more clearly

727
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: because I wasn't doing it, you know, for the full

728
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: five days or whatever. But uh yeah, like, well it

729
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: helps that I have all the pictures, you know, to

730
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: go back through and check it all out to give us, say,

731
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: before we get into mine, give us you. You're kind

732
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: of your first access to her on the n I kill. Yeah, so, um,

733
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: you and I were hunting together and yeah, maybe you

734
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: don't remember that, um, so it was I don't know.

735
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: I think it was the third day of that first year.

736
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: And there's like a big flat um that they dropped

737
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: us off on and basically there's a road that like

738
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: on the south side of the road, it's kind of

739
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: like shorter shrubbery um and that first year it was

740
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: actually really short and there was like a few tall

741
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: bushes here and there. Um. But to the north of

742
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: that road was like I remember Remy Warren saying, like

743
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: in those trees is infinity deer um. But every night

744
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: they would come out of the trees and cross that

745
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: road and go into this this you know, lower stuff

746
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: to go eat. And you and I um got dropped

747
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: off and we were a little bit late, and so

748
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: the deer were already starting to pile out of that.

749
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: And we snuck down and got kind of behind this

750
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: big bush. And there were a few that were coming

751
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: out across the road and they were going to walk

752
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: semi close to us, and you were like, hey, man,

753
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: I just go for it. So I got on my

754
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: belly and I crawled sixty seventy yards to the next bush,

755
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: and um, they were still moving kind of like quartering

756
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: to us. And I was stayed on my belly and

757
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: got another fifty sixty yards to like just really tiny bushes.

758
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: And there was a really big buck at like seventy

759
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: five yards, and but he was kind of moving through

760
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: the brush. And there was a good buck at fifty

761
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: two yards, but he was facing straight away from me.

762
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: And but I knew I could get in position and

763
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: get like settled in and draw back when he turned

764
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: the right direction. So I just forgot about this giant

765
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: buck you know, thirty two in access deer and put

766
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: all my focus into this other deer and finally he turned,

767
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: I drew back, shot, made a good shot. He ran

768
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, seventy yards and died and you came

769
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: over and we're walking over to find him, and Alec

770
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: called us our guide and uh, he you shot the

771
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: wrong one. It's like that other one was very bigger

772
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: and so uh uh let just a tiny bit of

773
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: the wind out of the sales in my first ever

774
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: access to here. But like still, like I laugh about

775
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: it to this day, Like just he could not figure

776
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: out why I would have taken the shot on a

777
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: smaller buck um, even though it was the shot that

778
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: I had. But yeah, like I mean, just happened to

779
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: make the right moves at the right time and didn't

780
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: scare him before I got the shot off. It was

781
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: great for me sitting back and watching that because you

782
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: killed the following year, I think it's the following the

783
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: year after whatever. The next time we went, you killed

784
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: a deer and and almost nearly the same spot, like

785
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: maybe I mean probably a hundred yards from where I

786
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: killed that first year. Yeah, I mean, you could have

787
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: seen each year, you know, and so I remember that

788
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: being funny in the second one, but for this one,

789
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: I just got to sit there and watch this all

790
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: go down. And I was thinking the same thing. If

791
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: I was being honest, I'm like, oh, he's gonna get that.

792
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna take a shot, that big one. He's so all.

793
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: You gotta just crawl the next bush. You know. You

794
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: couldn't at this point, and I just want to be

795
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: like say, I'm just crawl left, go left, and I

796
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: couldn't move, Yeah, And I appreciate it, Like when you

797
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: you told me the story, like I just couldn't. From

798
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: my angle, I thought for sure you were just gonna

799
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: keep crawling. Yeah, But when you stood up and shot that, dear,

800
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more excited, because I know, um,

801
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: I had already killed a buck at that point, but

802
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: I knew um from everyone else in camp how hard

803
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: that was. And that was like that was your first attempt, right,

804
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: your first stock. It was actually my second, um and

805
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: the but the first attempt, I'll be honest, I shoulder

806
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: punched one, did not get him. Oh yeah, I remember

807
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: that now. That was like a thirty five second stock.

808
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: Like you just like threw me out of the pickup

809
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: and I basically sprinted as hard as I could to

810
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: get in position, and he, uh, you know, they're fast,

811
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: so they whirled around and I didn't, I didn't make

812
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: it happen. Yeah, but I mean, it's it's to the

813
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: point where these things have the quick twitch muscle of

814
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: its other worldly and so you know, I've had you

815
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: and I well, I guess we'll tell the story later

816
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: on of of my uh, of my shot. What did

817
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: I say to saying bomb bomb city? I shot? I

818
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: shot at this this dough probably like forty yards or

819
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: are less, and she duck my air like it wasn't

820
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: even a problem. I've never seen anything like it. And

821
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, of course I yelled bomb city as I

822
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: let it go. M have been the problem. That might

823
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: have been the problem. But yeah, Sam gets his first

824
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 1: buck and it was a nice it was a really

825
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: nice stag. I found out earlier last week when I

826
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: was talking to Callahan about access to here that it's

827
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: it actually is stagg and dough. Uh, And that's that's

828
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: actually the nomenclature. So anyways, stagging dough. But you well,

829
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: I walked up with your tack. I'm like, to me,

830
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: that's a giant. I'm no, I'm no uh expert with

831
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: access to hear but the one you killed was a

832
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: wall hanger to me. Oh yeah, he's a cool, super

833
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: dark horned buck. I mean I could. I'm still proud

834
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: of him. Yes, And I got so. I guess I

835
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: could tell mine now, like, because I think I was

836
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: had just been with Shane, and Shane, as he said earlier,

837
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: always wants to split up. He's like, let's always split up.

838
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: You go this way that way? Um. I think this

839
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: was the afternoon of the first day, and I had missed, uh,

840
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: an easy shot on a small buck, about a thirty

841
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: nine yard shot on a buck. Had no idea I

842
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: was there. I had snuck up on this little berm.

843
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: He was right below me. I stood up the draw.

844
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: He didn't see me. Other deer had run, but he

845
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: didn't see me, and I just shot right over his

846
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: back and there was no reason for me to have missed.

847
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I was really dejected. I wasn't really used to missing

848
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: like that. Um. But as Shane said, like you turned her.

849
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: I turned. I remember flipping around on the berm and

850
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: looking out to the east and there was a thousand

851
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: deer there. I had just shot and missed one, and

852
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: I turned around and there's a bunch of other deers

853
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: just feeding. So I got crawled back down, uh and

854
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: started belly crawling towards them, you know, in that nuclear

855
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: red dirt of Lanai that just covers everything. I still

856
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: have a Matthew's bow that has I put black hockey

857
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: tape on the grip, and that hockey tape is red,

858
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: like bright red. I still have pants that the knees

859
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: are stained bright red from the Leni dirt. And so

860
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: you have crawling up. I got there's a group of

861
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: probably a hundred deer with a giant buck in the middle,

862
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: and then some satellite bucks around our stags around. I

863
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: keep saying bucks with its stags. So I'm belly crawling

864
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and I get to as you guys will know, you

865
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: get to a spot and you can confer the shame

866
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: where you get to like a zone where you can

867
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: make no mistakes within like a hundred yards of of

868
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: a group of axes. There's no mistakes to be made, right, Yeah, definitely.

869
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: And so I get to that zone and I pick

870
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: out a buck that I know I can make a

871
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: move on, so I start crawling. I get to probably

872
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: seventy yards of this buck, and I looked to my

873
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: right and here is access though about the step on me,

874
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: so I just kind of like rolled over. She she

875
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: jumps and does the give me a quick uh blow

876
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: there a bark there, Sam there it is. That's what

877
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: she did. And she goes running off towards the buck

878
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: and stands right with the bucks. So now he's looking

879
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: in my direction. So I laid there for I don't

880
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: know how long. It felt like twenty minutes, probably way

881
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: less than that. I lay there, I get my bonos up,

882
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: I look and there's seventy deer staring right at me.

883
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, there's nothing I can do. I'm

884
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: stuck right here. So I lay there for I don't

885
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: know how long it was. It was a pretty good

886
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: while trying to get them to calm down, but you know,

887
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: access to her, they still hadn't calm. Like the back

888
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: half of the group started to calm and go back

889
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: to feeding and kind of do their normal movements. Because

890
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: I was feeling pretty good, and I got up on

891
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: a little spot where I could draw easily from my

892
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: knees without having to do anything, and this nice buck

893
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: I had been practicing at eighty yards at a broadside

894
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: elk for I don't know, eight months prior to this hunt.

895
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: For this exact moment. This the buck I had been watching,

896
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: stands up on a little mound and starts watching some

897
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: does chasing each other the opposite of my direction. So

898
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: now he's standing on broadside looking the opposite way. So

899
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: I draw, and like, this is it, man, it's eighty

900
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: one yards. I draw. This is what I've been practicing.

901
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: I draw, I settle my pen. I feel perfect about it,

902
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: no doubts. I let that thing fly. I watch it,

903
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, eight yard shot you can watch in the

904
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: air for quite a while. I watched it in the air.

905
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't twitch, he doesn't move, and it drops perfectly

906
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: behind his shoulder, and he runs off into this cloud

907
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: out of dust, red dust and access dear, and I

908
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: get to a point where I can't see anything. It's chaos,

909
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: like there's deer growing every which direction. I probably could

910
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: have shot shot at another two or three deer during

911
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: the chaos, and I hear some kicking in some brush movements,

912
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: so I just kind of walk over towards that and

913
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: I turned the corner and there lays this buck dead.

914
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: He must have went twenty yards. I shot him right

915
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: in the hart. Um. I never wished that somebody was

916
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: with me more than that moment. That's awesome. I was like,

917
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I remember just thinking, how is nobody here to see this?

918
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: Such a dick Shane Shade made me go by myself,

919
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: so I was alone. And I remember one of the

920
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: other guys, Brandon, was watching me from the truck and

921
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: saw me shoot and drove his truck over to where

922
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: the buck was and he's like, you know, how long

923
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: was that shot? And I said, I don't know. I

924
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: think it was eighty some yards and he couldn't believe it.

925
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: He was losing his mind. He saw how far when

926
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: he's thinking, well, it basically just fell right over And

927
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I'm shocked as you. I was

928
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: confident in the shot, but you're never confident in the result,

929
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: especially this early on. Um. I'll never I would just

930
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure I will never duplicate that. I'm sure of it,

931
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: but you can try. I can try. And that was

932
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: my first first experience with access to here. Hell, yes,

933
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I remember that, I

934
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: remember getting the photograph of you and just being so psyched,

935
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: going yeah, manny, and I was screaming nobody. I was alone.

936
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: I was just screaming like, yeah, yes, I did it.

937
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's an accomplishment. Man. Any deer, any access

938
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: to here with a bow, you know, is and there

939
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: they are so much that goes into it, and so

940
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: many little tiny things that can go wrong, any number

941
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: of things, you know, and they tend to really move

942
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: a lot when when they hear any kind of like

943
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: the string dump or like anything at all, you know,

944
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: like I've I've gotten busted doing everything like drawing up

945
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: my my my bow back, if my if my cams

946
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: were had too much dust in them, and they did

947
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: a little walk as I was drawing back, or if

948
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: if there was if there was like the little little

949
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: thing on your rest, the little piece of whatever it

950
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: is that keeps it quiet, and that you know, that

951
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: thing was wearing out a couple different times, and I

952
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: got busted just going just like drawing back, and they

953
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: went like that and they just all of them ran

954
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: or all of them started barking at me. So, I mean,

955
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: anytime you get an arrow through an access here, it's

956
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: a it's a win. Yeah, at that moment, I'm sure

957
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: saying it was the same way. Like, I just didn't

958
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: know what I didn't know. I didn't doesn't like the

959
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: grab store. I was wondering whose dog that was. That's

960
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: the quarantine cast for you. I always have my kid

961
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: comes in and a Batman mask every twenty minutes. That's

962
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: the quarantine cast. It's that's all we got. Um. But yeah,

963
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't know what I didn't know. I

964
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: didn't know how incredibly fortunate I had been in that scenario,

965
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: um until the next year, when I just I don't

966
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: know how many deer I missed. Luckily, I didn't wound anything,

967
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: but I just had Like I just was so mentally

968
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: out of it by the end of that trip that

969
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: then I appreciated what I had accomplished the year prior

970
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: to that. You know, So it takes some time. I

971
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: know change you had so much experience with him, But

972
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: it took me some time to realize exactly how hard

973
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: this is, the very ability of success, um, what it

974
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: meant to get into the right position to have it

975
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: all go the way you needed to, you know, and

976
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: how rare that is for for even an average bow hunter. Um,

977
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: that's some wady with an average skill set, and and

978
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: only if you've never done it, what what that really

979
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: feels like? Can you remember the first time go over there? Um?

980
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah I can. Um, I remember the first time I

981
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: ever went over there. I went to Lanai and I

982
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: had been talking with um Jason Maderos on the phone,

983
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: and I had seen a bunch of photographs of him

984
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: with a bunch of deer and um. One day, uh,

985
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, I had some guys come to my house

986
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: to do to do. They were they were doing some

987
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: painting on the outside of my house and I started

988
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: talking to one of the painters and we started talking.

989
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: I had and I had a bunch of ram skulls

990
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: outside in the garage, and he was talking to me

991
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: about the ram skulls. And it turns out he was

992
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: a hunter. And he was like, man, you gotta link

993
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: up with my with with with my cousin Jason. He

994
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: lives on Lanai and he's a he's a hardcore bow hunter,

995
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: Jason Maderos. And and I said, yeah, man, I know

996
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: exactly who that is. Hooked me up, I'll go over

997
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: there for sure. So he gets Jason on the phone.

998
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: We start chatting on the phone and he says, yeah, man,

999
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: you should come visit anytime you want. So about a

1000
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: month later, I jumped on a plane to Lanai, and

1001
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: Um Jason picked me up, and I had no idea

1002
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: what to expect. I went and got my tag, my

1003
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: license thing, and and we walked into the field in

1004
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: a public hunting area and he put me like in

1005
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: this little brush blind that he had built, and it

1006
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: was just basically it was like a five gallon bucket

1007
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: on the ground and then like some some brush, like

1008
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: I was brushed into this blind and in front of

1009
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 1: me it was like a kind of like a road

1010
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: basically like a like a dirt like a like a

1011
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: dirt pat, like a long dirt dirt patch you could

1012
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: drive along. Um, and he said, you know, if you

1013
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: get really lucky, the deer will come out before dark.

1014
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: Like there's hundreds of deer in these in these bushes

1015
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: across from you. And so he sat in a blind

1016
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: that was like maybe eight yards just up that you know,

1017
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: a little dirt road from me, and um, so I'm

1018
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm the whole time, I'm so paranoid.

1019
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: It's like I was so excited um and uh, and

1020
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: every little like you know, leaf that would drop, and

1021
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: every little thing that was happening. I was like, is

1022
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: that one? Is that one? Is that one? For like

1023
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: for an hour straight and and and nothing came out.

1024
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: Nothing came out, and nothing came out. And the whole

1025
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: time I was pinned, just like looking at everything like

1026
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: can I need be ready? I need to be ready.

1027
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: I have my my bow at the ready and my

1028
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: arrow knocked. I had my release on because he's like, dude,

1029
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: you gotta be really ready. All of a sudden, I'll

1030
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: just appear. So the whole time I was just like

1031
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: totally ready. And I swear I must have looked down

1032
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: for like three seconds, no joke, Like I was like

1033
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: looking down and looking up, looking down and looking up.

1034
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: Just like I looked down. I look up and about

1035
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: fifteen yards away there's this monster buck. And I'm talking

1036
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: a monster buck. I'll send you a picture of it. Then,

1037
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: and he was standing there looking right at me, at

1038
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: fifteen yards away with a wide open I never saw

1039
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: him come out of the bushes, I never heard him

1040
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: going down a trail. Nothing. He just appeared in the

1041
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: wide open and I'm sitting there in a bush that

1042
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: wasn't really super brushed in, and I was like, hey,

1043
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: I need to draw and needed drawn, and he like

1044
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: looked at me and he put his head kind of

1045
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: down halfway and started walking straight towards me. It took

1046
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: like three steps. Then he's like at twelve yards and

1047
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, even if I started

1048
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: drawing back, he's gonna run. He's gonna hear him, he's

1049
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna see me. Something's going on. And so I had

1050
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: I had a um an open spot to shoot, like

1051
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: a shooting lane in the in the brush, and then

1052
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 1: there was like a thick thing a brush in the middle,

1053
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: and then a shooting lane to my right. And he

1054
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: turned and the whole time he was super suspicious. He

1055
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: was like looking at me like this as he was

1056
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: walking super slow, and I was just like this, like

1057
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: with a face mask. I was totally brushed in, and

1058
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: I was like, as soon as he goes right behind

1059
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: that middle thing a brush, I have to draw and

1060
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: the whole and I like, as he went behind it,

1061
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: I closed my eyes and drew as smooth as I could.

1062
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: And the whole time I was like getting my anchor.

1063
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: I had my eyes closed and then I opened my

1064
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: eyes and I was like, he's gonna be gone. He's

1065
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: gonna be gone, He's gonna be gone. I opened my

1066
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: eyes and I saw his feet, his his legs coming

1067
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: on the other side of the brush, and then he

1068
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: just stopped and he just was looking at me in

1069
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: the blind, and I remember just thinking, hey, don't rush

1070
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: the shot, don't don't rush the shot. And he was

1071
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: at like maybe ten yards nine yards and I put

1072
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: my first pin. He was looking right at me. I

1073
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: put my first pin like right here, and I released

1074
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: that arrow, and that buck just hit the dirt like this,

1075
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: like like someone just took the rug out from underneath

1076
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: him and he just hit the dirt. And Jason Madarros,

1077
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: who I just met like an hour and a half earlier,

1078
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: I had never met him in real life. He just

1079
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: come flying out of his blind, running full speed at

1080
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: me and did like a flying hug. And it was

1081
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: so excited, and his monster buck on the ground and

1082
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: public land and it was just it was probably the

1083
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: still probably the most excited I've ever been hunting. And

1084
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. Well, if anybody knows Shane, you know,

1085
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: I remember that first time. We would all be like Shane,

1086
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: We're going back for lunch with Like I have a

1087
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: text thread a Shane, We're gonna go back and get

1088
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: it a burger and then come back for lunch and

1089
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: shall be like, no, I'm good, leave me out here

1090
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: amongst them. I was going to describe my the first

1091
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: year down there as a photographer. I was, you know,

1092
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: supposed to go like on a hunt at least with

1093
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: every person on the trip. Never did go with Shane.

1094
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: I was supposed to meet up with him several different

1095
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: either mornings or afternoons, and He's like, I'm gonna go

1096
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: by myself this morning and then we'll just never come

1097
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: out of the field and I would see him at

1098
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: night and that was it. It was awesome. I was

1099
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: like like just like even when we did that podcast

1100
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: with Joe, the whole time you could tell you was like, oh,

1101
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: this is just this. We're wasting hunting time and I

1102
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: hate it. Why are we not in the field. We

1103
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: need to be stalking something, dude, I I you know,

1104
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have deer where I live. Like

1105
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: the hunting where I live can be pretty good, but

1106
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: it's like pigs and goats and some sheep and I

1107
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: don't have deer where I live, so I have like

1108
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: a real fascination, um about deer. And so when I

1109
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to go somewhere like that, especially where

1110
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: we were hunting, we were hunting on private ground and

1111
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: and you know, we had the place to ourselves, even

1112
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: though we had a big bunch of us. That is

1113
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of access to your hunting, as far as

1114
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: my understanding of it is. And like the places like

1115
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: created for bow hunting, it was like someone designed the

1116
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: whole place for spot and stalk bow hunting, for access

1117
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: to dear And so for me, I've had such so

1118
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: many blown stocks, so many missed shots, so many lost deer,

1119
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 1: so many so many ups and downs and emotional roller

1120
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: coasters where I walked out of the out of the

1121
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: field at the end of the day with like no

1122
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: arrows and like a deflated ego. And and so every chance,

1123
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: every minute of hunting time I get, I want to

1124
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: try and make the most of it. Um, you know

1125
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: what that's about. It's it's I know you explained it

1126
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: like that's the reason why. But every time I'm hunted

1127
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: with you, you're like that. And I remember saying that

1128
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: to somebody. Even after we got back from New Zealand.

1129
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: The first time we went down there, I'm like, I

1130
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: met this guy I didn't know about who. I knew

1131
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: he was a big wave surfer, and then he'd done

1132
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Then I started to find out

1133
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: some of the things he had done in his life

1134
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: and what he'd accomplished, and where he where he was at,

1135
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: particularly in his journey, and to see somebody his accomplishes, you, Shane,

1136
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 1: be so excited for every little idiosyncrasy, like every little

1137
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: intricate thing that has to do with bow hunting or

1138
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: the animal you're hunting and learning about it and like

1139
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: jumping head first into it. I don't think it matters

1140
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: where you are. Um in fact, I know it doesn't.

1141
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: And I remember tell him. I think I told my

1142
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: wife that I'm like, I met this guy, the nicest

1143
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: guy you've ever met, but more excited about hunting. He

1144
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: inspired me to get more excited about bow hunting. Uh.

1145
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: And I if there's any reason to pick up a bow,

1146
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: it would be like somebody like somebody like Shane who

1147
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: has traveled the world and served the biggest waves and

1148
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: done some of the most dangerous things you could in

1149
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: the water, so like flip and be that excited about this.

1150
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: You can't. That's that's isn't as infectious as it gets

1151
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to bow hunting. I also found like

1152
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: bow hunting pretty late in my life. I didn't start

1153
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: bow hunting until I was thirty, and when I found it,

1154
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: I fell head over heels in love with it. And

1155
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, you don't have to wait for a season.

1156
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: There's no you're like it's like like you're never like, oh,

1157
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm six months away, I need to start shooting. I

1158
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: should probably get a new bow this season, or there's

1159
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: no season, like you're you're bow hunting every week if

1160
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: you want to, every day if you want to. And

1161
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: so I went from like never hunting before to like

1162
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: in my first year, probably hunting like a hundred and

1163
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: fifty days, you know, Like I was awesome. And I

1164
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: became obsessed with not being a bad bow hunter, Like

1165
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to become a good bow hunter so badly,

1166
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: and I started like hanging out with people that I

1167
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: knew or who people that I met who were really

1168
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: good at bow hunting, and I just became obsessed with

1169
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: getting better at it, trying to get better at like

1170
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: just learning all I possibly could, and I don't know,

1171
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: it's been an it's been an amazing journey and I

1172
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: and I love bow hunting right now as much as

1173
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: I ever have. So yeah, now I've I've been privileged

1174
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: to kind of like see parts of your journey and

1175
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: be there the specific points and um, it's it's like

1176
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: I said, it's infectious and it's um. You know, like

1177
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: I said, if you don't know much about Shane and

1178
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, you gotta go back and and watch.

1179
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things you can watch about Shane,

1180
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: but you should. Um. Was that recent documentary that was

1181
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: on HBO oh Um Momentum Generation. Yeah, Momentum Generation. I

1182
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved and that that shows you a

1183
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: lot about you know, how Shane came up and what

1184
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: kind of life he had prior to his bow his

1185
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: your adult onset bow hunter man. Yes, And it's it's

1186
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: funny because this is um, this is me right here

1187
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: like in a nutshell as a as a bow hunter.

1188
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: I probably killed about a hundred deer now with my bow,

1189
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: probably eighty of them being accessed here. And every time

1190
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: I go in the field where there's deer. I feel

1191
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: like it's my first time. I get super nervous, I

1192
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: get dough fever, Like if I see a dough I

1193
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: start freaking out, like like almost shaking, Like I get

1194
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: it's so excited. It's like my first time again. And

1195
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: I feel like a rookie. I make rookie mistakes. I

1196
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: never feel like I've killed a hundred deer. It's such

1197
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: a trip and and every time I get one on

1198
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: the ground, I feel like it's a miracle. That's the

1199
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: best way to handle it. Man, I feel that same

1200
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: way too. But we should tell the story of the podcast.

1201
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: Uh what did Rogan called the podcast in Paradise where

1202
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: where it caused a lot of anxiety for Shane because

1203
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: we could have been hunting me me too, But or Sam,

1204
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: can you just just tell the set up for this,

1205
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: how this happened, and where the hell we were. Yeah,

1206
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: So we did the whole podcast in Rogan's room at

1207
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: the you know, at the hotel, and we sat down

1208
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: around a round table and basically Ray did the fridge

1209
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: of whatever beer and whatever else was sitting in their

1210
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: wine and like like Rogan just got went to the

1211
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: mini bar and took his big gorilla fucking hands and

1212
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: grabbed all of the liquor and wine and beer in

1213
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: the mini bar and dumped it on the table around

1214
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: the zoom recorder where there was five of us sitting. Uh.

1215
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: And then it got it just got out of control

1216
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: from there, it really did. It was. That was a

1217
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: really funny podcast and uh, you know, honestly one of

1218
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: the first ones I had ever been on and so

1219
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, getting your feet wet on a

1220
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: podcast that millions of people listened to. Um. But like

1221
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: at that time, for me, like I was just introducing

1222
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: the bus project, like Joe had been following along and

1223
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: like watching the build through my Instagram, and so I

1224
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: got to talk a little bit about the bus. But

1225
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: we spent the better part whatever it was hour and

1226
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: a half two hours, like just talking about how amazing

1227
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: Lena I was and everything had to offer and U

1228
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, and then there was a lot of different

1229
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: arguments that ensued about stuff that didn't matter at all. Ever,

1230
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: a drink was invented. Um. Actually that I'm looking at

1231
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: all the photos from the trip, and my hard drive

1232
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: is called cat Lady because I had to buy a

1233
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: new hard drive that summer and I named it after

1234
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: the drink. Yeah, it's uh, it's an amazing thing that

1235
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: happened there. Yeah, we all got, you know, pretty pretty drunk.

1236
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: I didn't, I was buzzed, but John Dudley got as

1237
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: drunk as I've seen a human and create it was

1238
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: putting wine. I don't even remember what the cat lady

1239
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: red bull in tequila. Yeah wine, red bull in tequila,

1240
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: and was drinking that and arguing with Joe Rogan of

1241
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: all people, about the uf about UFC, about fighting. It

1242
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: was like Tank Abbott did, Did Tank Abbott fight somebody?

1243
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: In particular? Part of it? You guys going, dude, you're

1244
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: kidding me. There's deer out there right now. We're about

1245
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: may not have ever happened, like nobody cares. I remember

1246
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: thinking like, is Joe gonna put this out there? Like,

1247
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: um so, yeah, it was just a booze infused introduction.

1248
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: It was my I think it was probably all of

1249
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: our first times um on on his show, the madness

1250
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: that is this show, and um so go listen to that.

1251
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: It's called Podcasts and Paradise. I can't find the episode number,

1252
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: but if you there's no number, there's no not literally

1253
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: called podcasts of paradise. That's it. We were so off

1254
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: the rails that didn't even need a number there. There's

1255
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: nothing in there. Yeah, So I don't know what else

1256
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: came out of, but you did. I remember saying you

1257
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: introduced your bus project. John and Joe argued about some

1258
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: fight and while John was drinking the ultimate blackout concoction,

1259
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: which became afterwards. Uh, there was a bunch of meme

1260
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: pages about cat Lady. The cat Lady lived on after

1261
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: that show for quite a while a while. Yeah, I

1262
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: haven't heard I haven't heard about the cat Lady in years,

1263
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: but in about it, yeah, probably two years. But at

1264
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: that point in seen it was. It became a bit

1265
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: of a fad, which was I worried about that for

1266
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: a while. There was like sleepless nights where something I

1267
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: was waiting for a news story to break where somebody

1268
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: overdosed died. Hashtag cat Lady, hashtag cat Lady. You know,

1269
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: but luckily we got out of their unscathed. Sure somebody

1270
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: was entertained by that podcast, but everybody from what I

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: can remember, Shane, you got a buck you I think

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01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: you got two bucks on that first trip, didn't you

1273
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: two stags? Two or three? Yeah, I think I got

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: three or four deer on that that hunt. Yeah, because

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01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: you killed two the last day. Yeah, yeah, I killed

1276
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: the one, Sam killed one, John killed. How many do

1277
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: you get when you hunt more? Yeah? What a weird

1278
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: What a weird concept? Two plus two eagules four ben

1279
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: to spend more time, hunt longer, You hunt more, and

1280
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: you get more opportunities. I just I just always remember

1281
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: Shane would just like appear out of the brush onto

1282
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: the road at night, just read from head to toe,

1283
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: black face paint, just looking like a ghost coming out

1284
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: of the brush. Booked about two thousand deer each day. Yeah,

1285
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen him in like twelve hours. He had

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: aged about five years, and he was he was usually

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: carrying a deer head on his way out. That's how

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01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: we do it. But yeah, I mean I that was

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: the first. I meant, I has become a thing that

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people do now. And thanks to the

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, the Pineapple brothers who had us down that

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01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: first year. You know they're up in there deal. But

1293
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: there is a lot of public land there for all

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: of those that probably asked a million times me and

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01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure you Shane, and even you saying for the

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01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: times that you've been there. I mean there's great public

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: plan hunts. You can also go with LNA with the

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: Pineapple Brothers is the outfitting group down there that runs

1299
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: out of four seasons. Um. So there's a lot of

1300
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: options to go there, man. And if you really want

1301
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: to experience what we just described, you can't. You can

1302
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: get it done. Um, you just gotta be if you're

1303
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: not willing to pay what it takes to get in

1304
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: with the Pineapple Brothers, you just gotta get um, get

1305
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: real and plan it. You can really, um, look at

1306
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: the public land that's there and take advantage. You definitely can. Oh,

1307
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: it's all open for you. Um. We should maybe close

1308
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: by talking about Bob the Butcher, because no Lannis story

1309
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: is complete without Bob the Butcher. So Shane, can you

1310
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: give give a Bob the Butcher rundown? Like, what's this guy?

1311
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: Try to describe him if the best you can? Oh, Man,

1312
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: he Bob the Butcher is uh. He's what you would

1313
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: call a holly guy, and a holly is a hiss

1314
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: like a white dude basically from the mainland. And but

1315
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: Bob moved to Lanai a million years ago, met a

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01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: local girl I believe, and has lived on l Nay

1317
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: ever since. And he's he's like a lny boy at

1318
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: heart now and everybody knows him, and he's he's like

1319
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: the classic Bob the butcher guy. But if you go

1320
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: and kill four or five deer with your gun, or

1321
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: or if you kill a deer with your bow, you

1322
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: can just literally just pull right up in front of

1323
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: his house. You don't have to call him, you don't

1324
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: have to text him. He just pull right up and

1325
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: he'll drag that deer right out of your truck, and

1326
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: you pay a hunter bucks and he'll make the deer

1327
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: however you want. He'll put it into sausages, He'll he'll

1328
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: make really killer rib racks. All everything's really like beautifully

1329
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: organized and and very appetizing, the way he cuts everything up,

1330
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: bags it all perfectly um beautiful presentation. He'll put it

1331
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: in a cooler and send it to your house. He's

1332
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: just um any and he's and he's the only game

1333
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: in town like that, and he's incredibly detailed about It's

1334
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: not like he's gonna just add your deer to the

1335
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: rest of the deer and like you know, you might

1336
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: get a rib brack from some like gun Hunter from

1337
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: some other places, you're gonna get your exact deer everything

1338
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: go part. He's very meticulous and and he's just a

1339
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: he's always good for a good story and a good

1340
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 1: conversation as well. Oh yeah, man, he's he's a legend

1341
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: um Sam. You want to try to just describe from

1342
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: your perspective who he is and kind of what he

1343
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: looks like. And yeah, I mean super interesting character, kind

1344
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: of like a he's bald, like semi overweight, just kind

1345
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: of like this like stocky like guy. And uh like,

1346
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: it seems like every time I had wander over there

1347
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: to like either hang out and talk to him about

1348
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, have him tell stories about living on the island,

1349
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: or watch him cut up deer shoot photos of the

1350
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: whole place. I mean, he was always just singing most

1351
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: of the time. He didn't have a shirt on, like

1352
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 1: he's just you know, like or wearing like just like

1353
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 1: an apron and shorts. You know, Like, I like, super

1354
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: interesting character to say the least. Oh yeah, man, and

1355
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 1: is the guy who always has a story for something.

1356
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: He's one of the happiest people you've ever meet. Like

1357
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: he's always engaging. He would sit up and talk to

1358
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: you all night, like if you would have you endeavored

1359
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: to sit there with him and his kind of butchering

1360
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: area skinning area and have a beer and talk, he

1361
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: would do it as long as you could possibly handle it.

1362
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: I think about sorry about that, yam Oh, I was

1363
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: gonna say. I think one of my favorite stories that

1364
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: he told me was I was talking about all the

1365
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: turkeys on one I but there's no spring season, and

1366
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: he was like, oh man, you just need to come

1367
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: back in the fall and the season's open. We hunt

1368
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: him like quail. And I was like, well, what do

1369
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: you what do you mean. He's like, oh, yeah, we

1370
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: run dogs and we'll flush covees of turkeys of like

1371
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: three or four and you can shoot one a day

1372
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: per day of the season. He's like, I shot twenty

1373
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: seven last year. He's the best jerky hunters on the

1374
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: whole island right exactly. And there's not a tree bigger

1375
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: than six ft for them to roost in, so maybe

1376
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: sleeping in the roost you can walk right up to

1377
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: him and push him out of it. The worst thing

1378
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: about Bob the butcher is going there in the middle

1379
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: of the day, like if you do you kill a deer,

1380
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: at like ten am and you throw in the back

1381
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: of the truck and you drive over there. For for me,

1382
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: it's like trying to get in and out of there

1383
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: as quick as I can. But he always went to

1384
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: like chat and like tell stories and like hang out.

1385
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Bob, Dude, I'll come back tonight and

1386
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: hang out for an hour where we can hang out.

1387
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: But right now, dude, I'm putting this deer and I'm

1388
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: going straight back to the field because there's a lot

1389
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 1: of deer that needs me out there. Yeah. Man, I

1390
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: would say that going to visit Bob. And then you know,

1391
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: after the fact, I got back to Texas when I

1392
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: lived there, and I would like reaching my freezer to

1393
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: grab you know, I keep all my like straps and

1394
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: and loins, and you know, some of the cuts I

1395
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: like more in one area my freezer and I would

1396
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: just reach in and grab something for dinner, and I

1397
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: would look and I would know, like Bob the Butcher's handwriting,

1398
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: and I would get so excited when I would see that,

1399
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: like the golden ticket from where you know, from my

1400
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: freezer that I knew this came from Bob's Bob's shop,

1401
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: and I knew this came from one ie, Um, and

1402
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to get some of the

1403
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: best days of me there was. So you can't go

1404
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: down there without without seeing Bob. You gotta go experience it.

1405
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: Like Shane said, be maybe take maybe go after the

1406
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: hunt and be ready for a couple of hours of

1407
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: a good time. H Yeah. Absolutely, well boys before we

1408
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: get out of here. Um, thanks for spending time with

1409
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: me at Shane, I know you got to get back

1410
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: to the beach, son of a bitch. Uh, But you

1411
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: want to kind of give everybody your outlook on this, Shane.

1412
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: You know what you what you think about, you know

1413
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: how many weeks this might go on or you don't

1414
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: have to give that prediction, but just how you're looking

1415
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: at the future with this quarantine and this pandemic. Oh man,

1416
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a it's a really tough subject

1417
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: for me. I mean it's um. You know, I have

1418
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: some really good friends that live in Spain and in Italy,

1419
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: and I've been talking to those those friends and David

1420
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: indoors and on real lot like actual lockdown, not like

1421
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: Hawaii you go surfing, but an actual lockdown where you

1422
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: can't leave your house for weeks now, and it's a

1423
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: dire situation and it's really sad, and um, you know,

1424
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: I really fear that for Hawaii. Hawaii is a really

1425
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: a really fragile place. You know. We have very like um,

1426
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, limited amount of hospital beds and very limited

1427
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: amount of space and and medical workers, and we have

1428
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of tourists that come here, and you know

1429
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: about the hundreds of thousands, and so I'm just a

1430
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: little worried to be honest, and just trying to be

1431
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: really safe and and and hunker down a little bit

1432
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: more than normal and really really happy. I have three

1433
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: freezers full of food and probably two freezers full of

1434
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: wild game meat, and my family is happy about that

1435
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: as well. So just trying to get back to the

1436
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: basics and and um, really appreciate what we have and

1437
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: um looking forward to the next time I go balling.

1438
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. I don't want to end on

1439
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: a sour note, but I just wanted to get that, like,

1440
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: get everybody you know, perspective on this, because that things

1441
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: are important. Sam, Sam, you want to give yours where

1442
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: you are now? Yeah, I think the most important thing

1443
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: is just too realize that even though you know people

1444
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: like us are young and healthy and like probably won't

1445
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: be all that much affected by the whole thing. Like

1446
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: we just have to be conscious of everyone and around

1447
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: us and everyone on the planet really and know that

1448
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: we're all in this together, like there's no discrimination among anybody.

1449
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: Like we need to unite and just make sure we're

1450
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: keeping any everybody that we can possibly safe and do

1451
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: what we need to do to get through this crappy time.

1452
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, well boys, let's whenever this all over,

1453
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: let's go back Lanai. Yes, ye, let's definitely get get

1454
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: back together and go hunting again, no doubt, man, I

1455
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: miss it. Um well, thanks so much for taking the time, guys,

1456
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: and be safe and keep your family safe and we'll talk.

1457
01:16:54,840 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: So thanks you guys. Sounds good, Thanks guys, that's it.

1458
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: That's all. I've been asking Phil the engineer to rate

1459
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: every podcast. So Phil, what do you rate this podcast?

1460
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: One out of ten ten being the best? Uh? You know,

1461
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and give it a nine. I

1462
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: have not heard it yet, the whole thing perfect, but

1463
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: I you know, I've got faith in you and Sam

1464
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,879
Speaker 1: and Shane, so um uh and I think the listeners

1465
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: agree it was a it was a nine. That's great.

1466
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: You're that's for once, you're being positive and I really

1467
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: enjoyed that. I think maybe with this quarantine, you're turning

1468
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: turning over a new leaf. Yeah, I'm seeing the world

1469
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: in in a in a whole new light. All right, Well,

1470
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: thanks to SHANEO, thanks to Sam for the second time

1471
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: being on the Quarantine Cast. Um, we're gonna have a great,

1472
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: great episode for you tomorrow. I think tomorrow is Steve

1473
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: and Ronella and Janie Patellis. Don't know if you're familiar

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Speaker 1: with those gentlemen. Uh. They run a program called The

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Speaker 1: Meat Eater Podcast. Some people listen to it, I believe,

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Speaker 1: and it is what I find a fine outdoor program.

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Speaker 1: So Yanni and Steve tomorrow on the Quarantine Cast. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of you will be excited about that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get an update from Steve on his vacation

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Speaker 1: to Mexico and Yanni's quarantine in the mountains of Montana,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna talk about our hunt in Mexico

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Speaker 1: for CU's deer. A couple of years back, UM, where

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Speaker 1: I first heard about this company that I worked for,

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Speaker 1: a now called Media Incorporated, from Steve, so it would

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Speaker 1: be and where we also did, Phil, if you didn't

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Speaker 1: know this, this was definitely BP or uh. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I recorded the first episode of the Unincollective on that trip,

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Speaker 1: so it'll be good to relive those days that were

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Speaker 1: far far into the BP. Yeah, I mean I I

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Speaker 1: have not listened to that first episode actually, but I

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Speaker 1: will listen to this one. Oh my god, on your

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Speaker 1: dedications it's it's it's a veil. You pull that veil back.

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Speaker 1: It's ugly, ugly. Um. Well, hopefully listen to this one, Phil,

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Speaker 1: I look forward to it. I always look forward to

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Speaker 1: talking Steven Janni, especially as as Steve said on an

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Speaker 1: all company call recently, we don't appreciate the people around

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Speaker 1: every day until we can't be around them. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's good. It'd be good to check in with those

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Speaker 1: boys and just have fun telling hunting stories. So come

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow for that. That's it Episode number eight of

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Speaker 1: the Quarantine Cast gone. I'm Jonas form number nine tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: See you. The Hunting Collective with Ben O'Brien is a

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Speaker 1: part of the Meat Eater podcast network. It is produced

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Speaker 1: by Cringe Schneider and engineered by Phil Taylor. You can

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Speaker 1: find it on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify, the meat eater dot com,

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: or anywhere podcasts are downloadable wherever you listen, leave a

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Speaker 1: five star review and subscribe. Phil, you watched Tiger King.

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Speaker 1: I started it, Ben, I watched the first two episodes.

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Speaker 1: What give me your best description? Give me your best

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Speaker 1: description of Joe Exotic um hero? Uh, friend to all

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Speaker 1: and uh he shouldn't introduce me to his hair stylist

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Speaker 1: and music video director. Yeah. If anybody is listening to

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Speaker 1: the post credit sequence right now, google here Kitty Kitty

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Speaker 1: like Joe Exotic and then thank me later. But yes,

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Speaker 1: this is our first post credits sequence where we're talking

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Speaker 1: about what they will be in the future. And that's

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Speaker 1: really it.