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Speaker 1: sich speaking of the babies and not not exactly babies.
Speaker 1: I want to see a concert. The other night, y'all,
Speaker 1: and I went to see Steve Lacey with my kid.
Speaker 1: Right now, Jet brought Steve Lacey to my attention in
Speaker 1: the first place, and I got this this um overwhelming sense.
Speaker 1: I got some Prince vibes in there. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I enjoyed the musicum much. I thought the
Speaker 1: lyrics were very thoughtful. I was like, okay, dugging some more.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, fright, you know, happy to
Speaker 1: see it, like we're sincerely happy to see whenever. You know,
Speaker 1: the young people not only are they like they're vibing,
Speaker 1: but they're also like musically, you know, like it's a
Speaker 1: super talent, you know, like yeah, super talents. Like okay,
Speaker 1: that's what's up. And then there before him, his opening
Speaker 1: act was his young girl. Um I keep saying young girl.
Speaker 1: She's probably like twenty something. I don't know, um, but
Speaker 1: her name is Fuchet and she does her punk music
Speaker 1: as the whole aesthetic you know, that was really working.
Speaker 1: It was such like a homage to the Harry Carrew
Speaker 1: um I want to say correctly, the like Japanese anime.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you know this Afro afro punk babies.
Speaker 1: That's an Afro punk baby and for show, it was
Speaker 1: just really good to see that kind of energy, you know,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I like, I like this, I
Speaker 1: like being around this. This is such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: Um And oftentimes, you know, we end up spending time
Speaker 1: with people around our own age, which could definitely beat
Speaker 1: to our detriment. Oh yes, yeah, y'all know how I
Speaker 1: have a I have like an underlining irritation with my generation.
Speaker 1: Like anyone who listened to this podcast, though, like, but
Speaker 1: we irked me? Cool? What is it? The irs? Uh?
Speaker 1: We irked me because I feel like for us, we're
Speaker 1: the We're the generation who grab the pearls, yanked them
Speaker 1: off and threw them into the gutter, only to crawl
Speaker 1: around on the ground looking for each individual pearl, string
Speaker 1: them back together, put them on our necks just so
Speaker 1: we can clutch them. You have to read us like that.
Speaker 1: I feel that, and that that annoys me, Like, y'all
Speaker 1: can't possibly be the face down, butt up generation. Y'all
Speaker 1: clutching pearls. Yea out here, clut your pearls. That is
Speaker 1: so true, I would tell you. Let me telling these
Speaker 1: old ladies. Yes, you're such an old lady, now, you know.
Speaker 1: Now I think I'm an old lady now, Oh well,
Speaker 1: at least you you know. Well, listen, old ladies. Not bad.
Speaker 1: It's just made you old. Someone said this to me
Speaker 1: the other day. But like, if you don't get old,
Speaker 1: that means you die young, so be grateful. I mean
Speaker 1: that part. But it's just the continuing, the opening, the
Speaker 1: chasm of the mind. What happened? You dig down deep
Speaker 1: and you know you decided that this is the way
Speaker 1: everything should be. And because we grew up, this is
Speaker 1: how I supposed to look at her. I don't know
Speaker 1: how it's supposed to feel and how it's supposed to
Speaker 1: But that's not try it. You gotta fight that it
Speaker 1: becoming be like oh no, no, get already, get out
Speaker 1: of here. No, don't open your mind. Stop stop it's
Speaker 1: closing its clothes and open back, open open it, open
Speaker 1: it because anything like y'all don't watch y'all don't watch
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. Do y'all don't don't do you don't
Speaker 1: tell you like hold the door, howld the door, Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold door, hold the door, and the door
Speaker 1: open for a bird, the new fresh you know, the
Speaker 1: cool wind and and the new the new vibes, the
Speaker 1: interesting people with these thoughts that a man that continuously
Speaker 1: will blow your mind if you let him in the door.
Speaker 1: Hold the door, old door, old or so, so check
Speaker 1: this out. We have the privilege and the pleasure of
Speaker 1: talking to Lana Danzler. I. Yeah, yeah, I listen this
Speaker 1: this little fresh face, this beauty. Good to see you again.
Speaker 1: It's nice to see you. It's nice to see you
Speaker 1: as well. You guys had a very nice introduction into
Speaker 1: the conversations. I didn't want to interrupt, but um, it was.
Speaker 1: It was actually interesting to hear you guys say what
Speaker 1: you were saying, because the other day it was actually
Speaker 1: the car of my dad and I've been telling him
Speaker 1: for a while that I just wanted to take a
Speaker 1: drive with him and listen to some of the music
Speaker 1: that I like and just show it to him and
Speaker 1: like see what he thought. And when we were in
Speaker 1: the car, I showed him like some of the newer
Speaker 1: rappers that are out right now, and you know, like
Speaker 1: we were joking around. He was pretending like he liked
Speaker 1: it for a little bit, but then hegan again told
Speaker 1: me he was kind of like young people kind of
Speaker 1: operate on a different frequency, I guess, and it's like
Speaker 1: not that it's a bad frequency, but it's so much
Speaker 1: faster than what he's used to. Now he's just more
Speaker 1: on a slow taste of journey as he gets older,
Speaker 1: so we like smoother music. But when he was younger,
Speaker 1: he tells me, it was kind of that same high
Speaker 1: frequency stuff we like. Now we like to jump around,
Speaker 1: we like to move so much, and you know, it's interesting,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like every generation is like that. It's
Speaker 1: like every older generation has always hated on the moon,
Speaker 1: like but he told me, it's like less of a hate.
Speaker 1: He feels like it maybe more of a just misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: It's like a frequent back to the frequency kind of
Speaker 1: um analogy. It's almost like it's too loud for them.
Speaker 1: It's just like, why did you just be quieter? Like
Speaker 1: how I am right now? More there? And I think
Speaker 1: that was that was very telling to me, because again,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's easy to get into, Oh my
Speaker 1: parents don't understand me, or this is you know, like
Speaker 1: they're hating on me. This is just the life I
Speaker 1: like to live. But it's just like they did. They
Speaker 1: were saying that same argument a bunch of years ago.
Speaker 1: And this the other day, me and my mom were
Speaker 1: talking about something that I wanted to wear and she
Speaker 1: kind of had a problem with which she was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been through the same argument a million
Speaker 1: times my mother, And I was like, well, if you've
Speaker 1: been through it, why can't I do it? This? This
Speaker 1: is that. But it's just like it's just it's like
Speaker 1: a slower frequency. I guess what did she say when
Speaker 1: you asked that? I'm so is I'm like, so, what
Speaker 1: was the answer? What is the answer if you've been
Speaker 1: through Okay, let's have a couple of well, it's it's
Speaker 1: an age old thing. It's a that's confused. Lana is
Speaker 1: Agia and fifteen. Uh they're they're fifteen year old daughter.
Speaker 1: Just so you're clear, Yes, we didn't do the itcho. Fully,
Speaker 1: I know you got the roll and that's because you
Speaker 1: know that's my baby to the conversation. So are we
Speaker 1: talking now, let's go. As soon as I heard my name,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, so the door has been open.
Speaker 1: So I'm na, yeah, I think I think it's interested
Speaker 1: because like my my teenagers. So I have twins who
Speaker 1: are most fifteen and December home girl. But but Jill
Speaker 1: Scott just said I'm fifteen though I was correcting a
Speaker 1: lot of change, you know what. Right ahead, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, let that one slave get ready, world,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. So, yeah, I have fifteen year old twins,
Speaker 1: almost fifteen year old twins, and then of course my
Speaker 1: eighteen year old just went away to college. So now
Speaker 1: in the household we have we only have two official teenagers.
Speaker 1: And then Denis twelve, so he'll be thirteen in February.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so now we're experiencing the life of teenagers
Speaker 1: for the second time. So we have older kids who
Speaker 1: are twenty three, twenty and eighteen, and they're all outside
Speaker 1: of the well moved on with their lives, and so
Speaker 1: at this point now we're experien here in something like
Speaker 1: a new group of of teens, and so it's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting to kind of get into what's important to
Speaker 1: them and how they feel. And yesterday we had a
Speaker 1: conversation about about safety. And I posted about this a
Speaker 1: while back, just about what makes young people feel safe.
Speaker 1: M and Lana had a discussion in class about it,
Speaker 1: and so you know, I really would like her to
Speaker 1: chime in about that in particular, because I think really
Speaker 1: the conversation with young people has to start with safety.
Speaker 1: How do they feel safe enough to be in conversation
Speaker 1: and relationship with us, not just as parents, but just
Speaker 1: as elders in the community. Period. Oh yes, please, please
Speaker 1: and thank you. So I have this class freshman seminar
Speaker 1: and basically, when I go to senior year, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to write a very long paper called a senior
Speaker 1: accent you guys want to know about it, um, to graduate.
Speaker 1: But this class freshman seminar is to prepare me for that.
Speaker 1: So they have plant little seeds of writing and finding
Speaker 1: arguments for specific comps and pacific topics to help you
Speaker 1: with later on when you have to do that big assignment,
Speaker 1: to just kind of seed it into your brain a
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. So we were arguing about whether when
Speaker 1: I argue, we're debating about whether kids getting out of
Speaker 1: school later would be safer for them. Um. On the
Speaker 1: way home, and it kind of despiral this tangent about
Speaker 1: feeling safely in Philadelphia in general, which the black kids
Speaker 1: in my class kind of overtook, which uh, just a
Speaker 1: little side you know about that. Um. I go to CAPPA,
Speaker 1: which is Creative Performing Arts high school in Philadelphia, and
Speaker 1: there are a lot of receptions about the diversity at
Speaker 1: that school, but I would say it's very predominantly black,
Speaker 1: So there is not a single classroom without at least
Speaker 1: at least ten black students. As it's a very black UM,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't know that. But Kappa
Speaker 1: is very black. And we just kind of got into
Speaker 1: this large conversation about how it feels to be safe
Speaker 1: in UM Philadelphia or not safe more or so, and
Speaker 1: it was kind of going back and forth because, uh,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of black women in my class,
Speaker 1: and I consider myself particularly very educated on racial issues,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of also black men in my class,
Speaker 1: and the topic of intersectionality was not being really focused
Speaker 1: on when we were having this discussion. And there was
Speaker 1: a very big thing where this girl was talking about
Speaker 1: how she felt unsafe UM due to being kind of
Speaker 1: cat called, and you know, once she takes the bus,
Speaker 1: in the train, in the subway. And then there's this
Speaker 1: one kid in my class who's a black male. He goes, well,
Speaker 1: black men get murdered every day, and the statistics show
Speaker 1: that there's been more violence towards the black men since
Speaker 1: the beginning of time, and that really set me off,
Speaker 1: Like First of all, what statistics? What statistics? Second of all,
Speaker 1: it just I just think, like like debate rule one
Speaker 1: oh one, or even like respectable rule one oh one,
Speaker 1: when someone who's marginalized or especially more oppressed than you
Speaker 1: was talking about something they're going through, if you'll start
Speaker 1: your sentence with but and then something else, it's very
Speaker 1: big red flag and it's very ignorant, and it's like
Speaker 1: a kind of ding ding ding, you're uneducated, like light
Speaker 1: in my head. And I also they'll feel like when
Speaker 1: black people are talking about our experiences, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's right to rob them of that black you're wrong
Speaker 1: or this year that. But I do think it's we
Speaker 1: should take the time to educate them because again, I
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes we can't always articulate how we're feeling
Speaker 1: in a way that makes sense. So again, when I
Speaker 1: was in that class and a lot of my classmates
Speaker 1: are talking about their experience and we have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to educate a lot of the white kids in the room,
Speaker 1: there was some language that I felt it was not
Speaker 1: being articulated correctly, and I didn't want to misinform the
Speaker 1: classroom in such a poor in moment, so I took
Speaker 1: it upon myself and I joined the conversation late, but
Speaker 1: I took it upon myself to try and get those
Speaker 1: thoughts out in a way that made sense for someone
Speaker 1: who doesn't have the black experience. Um, but that was
Speaker 1: what I went through the other day that my mom
Speaker 1: was talking about. And I feel like being safe in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and being and safe as a minor is very
Speaker 1: much in her miss type of situation. I really feel like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we have so much stuff about what you
Speaker 1: can do to be safe, what you can do, But
Speaker 1: even then, you could do all of these things. You
Speaker 1: could stay in the house your entire life, you could
Speaker 1: still be a victim of attack. I mean, Brianna Taylor
Speaker 1: was in her own home. She was at her own home.
Speaker 1: She she just still died from violence. It's like, what
Speaker 1: is it that you can do? And I don't mean
Speaker 1: that as the depressing thing, but even I said this
Speaker 1: at the beginning of my rent in the classroom, I
Speaker 1: was like, all of the black people that are here
Speaker 1: and are alive in America today are all here by chance.
Speaker 1: You could have been the most well behaved slave in
Speaker 1: the world, but an overseerer in a bad mood could
Speaker 1: have ended your entire bloodline just because they wanted to
Speaker 1: because they were having a bad day. So my point
Speaker 1: is that we can do all of these things to
Speaker 1: try and assimilate, try to be safe, or we can
Speaker 1: dress a certain way. We cannot take public transportation, we
Speaker 1: could avoid bad streets, we could do this, we could
Speaker 1: do that. And even then, being black in America and
Speaker 1: being black in Philadelphia, being black in the city, it's
Speaker 1: still it doesn't guarantee you safety. Mm hm. What was
Speaker 1: the response? What? What did everybody say? Want you well again? Uh? Um.
Speaker 1: It's the very early in freshman year, so it kind
Speaker 1: of was like a silence in the classroom for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. And um, my teacher Mr. Rosher, he's a
Speaker 1: white man and not only does he teach freshman seminar,
Speaker 1: but he also teaches African American studies at Kappa, and
Speaker 1: he does seem to be very self aware about the
Speaker 1: fact that that's slightly weird. Um. But he did tell
Speaker 1: me that he appreciated that I brought up the intersect
Speaker 1: reality in this topic because it hadn't really been addressed,
Speaker 1: and he liked the way that I worded it. But
Speaker 1: it did kind of leave a silence over the room.
Speaker 1: I think it also took was a lot to take in. Again,
Speaker 1: but that was the kind of the response to the room.
Speaker 1: I didn't get any uh, bad responses. Even the black
Speaker 1: boy that had made the comment about will black men
Speaker 1: get killed every day? He was very silent and just
Speaker 1: like taking in the information that I said, he didn't
Speaker 1: have an attitude or make a face, because again, I
Speaker 1: was trying to educate the classroom. I wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: be rude or anything. Again, ignorance in the black community
Speaker 1: about black issues is still very prevalent. Like you'd be
Speaker 1: surprised about how many people don't know about their own
Speaker 1: culture and know about the real reason these things are
Speaker 1: the way that they are, the reason why we live
Speaker 1: in the hood and they live in the suburbs, the
Speaker 1: reason that this is this, this is that. And that's
Speaker 1: again why I felt like I needed to articulate some
Speaker 1: of the things that weren't you know, because not all
Speaker 1: of us have access to the information as to why
Speaker 1: those things are the way that they are. A lot
Speaker 1: of us, yeah, are young people are really thinking in
Speaker 1: broad strokes broader than ever before. If you ask me,
Speaker 1: and I say that because I think are well mouse
Speaker 1: and my generation was probably think about it this way,
Speaker 1: just going back a couple of generations. My grandmother was
Speaker 1: born in nineteen seventeen. So the odds of walking down
Speaker 1: the road and seeing somebody humes high you feel me.
Speaker 1: The odds of your father leaving, I mean, we still
Speaker 1: have these things. So that's the crazy part, um leaving
Speaker 1: and not ever coming back because he's been captured and
Speaker 1: you know, mutilated is a real, very very real thing. Um,
Speaker 1: she was around before they were really couldn't vote, right,
Speaker 1: cars were kind of they were new or I didn't
Speaker 1: have one of those that clearly then they have one
Speaker 1: of those. My my great grandparents were share croppers, so yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and just to say that my great grandparents were shared croppers.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're talking about my mother. You know,
Speaker 1: my mother's whatty seven, I believe, Um, and she couldn't
Speaker 1: sit on the front of the bus. Um. Then we
Speaker 1: have this generation, our generation, your parents on Lana, and
Speaker 1: we were pretty much able to do everything that we
Speaker 1: wanted to do, you know, if we wanted to go
Speaker 1: to college, if we wanted to wear pants, because in
Speaker 1: the seventies, you know, we've got this natural hair and
Speaker 1: these vibes, and you know, everybody is standing up and
Speaker 1: discovering their blackness. And then you've got us, and now
Speaker 1: we've got you and you you all are more free
Speaker 1: than anything that I've ever seen. I think that there
Speaker 1: may be a slight sense of jealousy, you know that's
Speaker 1: been in there because you you all not all you're
Speaker 1: able to own your sexuality. I admit to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're able to start a business at a at a
Speaker 1: young age and be profitable from it. You're you're able
Speaker 1: to literally do anything. Your outlook is so far we
Speaker 1: haven't even seen you know how far you walk and
Speaker 1: go and how quickly you can do it. We have
Speaker 1: this mentality that you have to learn from the ground up.
Speaker 1: You have to and and these things are still good.
Speaker 1: I think it's still solid to learn something from the
Speaker 1: ground up. But you all, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: if it's osmosis, like what's going on. But then side,
Speaker 1: don't don't forget about the flip side Jill though, tell
Speaker 1: me tell me. I let Lana tell because as you
Speaker 1: were talking, I was just but we didn't have like
Speaker 1: shooting drills, we had fire drills. We didn't have shooting drills.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a thing. School shootings wasn't a popular thing
Speaker 1: that happened multiple times to where you were like de escalate,
Speaker 1: like and even the thing with what's going on with
Speaker 1: police and and black Post seems like more than ever
Speaker 1: because we didn't have the visuals, we didn't have video
Speaker 1: like we have today. And so I'm curious, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let talk like in terms of life, what are the challenges? Like,
Speaker 1: so we from our advantage point, we can see the
Speaker 1: advantages that you have. But like if you had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to speak out, because like at this point, there's
Speaker 1: hell adults listening to this, so like if they needed
Speaker 1: you wanted them to know some of like particular challenges
Speaker 1: that they should be keyed into, and not to make
Speaker 1: you speak for all young people, speak for yourself, specifically yourself.
Speaker 1: I think one of the big things is just like, um,
Speaker 1: I think this generation the internet has really been a
Speaker 1: huge part of making everything kind of more. I just
Speaker 1: think like seeing what people are going through. I think
Speaker 1: first the internet was you saw the struggle and then
Speaker 1: finding literally watching the progression of people learning to deal
Speaker 1: with their struggle and being like I relate to that too.
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason why so many people have
Speaker 1: learned to be more open, because there's people whose entire
Speaker 1: lives and the entire journeys are documented. Like there are
Speaker 1: people that I followed on TikTok that discovered that they
Speaker 1: were trans and I followed their journey before they even
Speaker 1: knew that. So it's like you watch the progression of
Speaker 1: people's journeys in their lives, and then there's other viewers
Speaker 1: that are like, I relate to that, people's mental health issues.
Speaker 1: This is that. I feel like that's how it's become
Speaker 1: more normalized in our society, because you are able to
Speaker 1: look into somebody else's eyes, into somebody else's life, and
Speaker 1: you can say I can relate to that, And I
Speaker 1: feel like before that, it's so easy for people to
Speaker 1: feel isolated in their environments. I feel like now it's
Speaker 1: more you see everybody like you and there and there,
Speaker 1: and there are the downsides of that too. I feel like, again,
Speaker 1: some people play to other people's emotions and try and
Speaker 1: gain that relatability so they can try and force them
Speaker 1: into a type of lifestyle. You know, there's this kind
Speaker 1: of this uh, this joke on the internet, this thing
Speaker 1: called the manner sphere or whatever. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys have ever heard of it. It's like those, yeah,
Speaker 1: those little motivational videos for men that start by applying
Speaker 1: to their insecurities and then they start saying this is
Speaker 1: how you fix it, and instead of actually being productive,
Speaker 1: it's just misogynistic viewpoints are telling them you can get
Speaker 1: women by being very disrespectful to women, and this is
Speaker 1: how you make money. This is how you like. And
Speaker 1: there's even stuff like that exists like that for women
Speaker 1: as well, like where they try and apply to women's
Speaker 1: insecurities and then they tell them, well, this is how
Speaker 1: you get skinny, this is how you do this, this
Speaker 1: is how you do that. Instead of those productive things
Speaker 1: that have existed to help people with their journeys, there
Speaker 1: are also things that exist that too, are just there
Speaker 1: to help benefit someone in specifics, not the viewers, not
Speaker 1: their supporters. It's just there to basically take advantage. So
Speaker 1: I think those are one things you have to look
Speaker 1: out for on the internet is who is a productive
Speaker 1: influence to follow on who's not. And that's actually something
Speaker 1: I'm learning about in Jim. They were trying to teach
Speaker 1: us the difference between a life and fluencer and a
Speaker 1: regular influencer. And it's like someone who flexes their lifestyle
Speaker 1: onto you and makes themselves feel unachievable unless you follow
Speaker 1: these inappropriate steps or these steps that aren't really going
Speaker 1: to get you there, or a life influencer someone who
Speaker 1: tells you your life can be better, but you can
Speaker 1: make it good the way it is now, or these
Speaker 1: are little things you can do for yourself, or you're
Speaker 1: going through this. I'm going through this. This is how
Speaker 1: we can be better. It's like I just feel like
Speaker 1: or people that just healthily show you their lives that
Speaker 1: just like you know, those people that vlog every day,
Speaker 1: or those you know, motivational people on the internet, people
Speaker 1: that just kind of give you a healthy insight into
Speaker 1: their life and even if they don't show you everything.
Speaker 1: Because I think the whole saying social media is fake,
Speaker 1: da da da da da, I think social media being
Speaker 1: fake can be a good thing sometimes. Like I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you're a family YouTuber or whatever, families have struggles,
Speaker 1: But do you need to put that on your YouTube channel? No,
Speaker 1: because some people might watch that to feel better about themselves.
Speaker 1: Some people might watch it. Be like I didn't have
Speaker 1: a good relationship with my family, but it's nice to
Speaker 1: see these children grow and this family blossom together, even
Speaker 1: if they might have issues off screen. I feel like
Speaker 1: sometimes having a curated image like that is okay. And
Speaker 1: I feel like people are so obsessed with authenticity it's
Speaker 1: kind of a bad thing, like things like the shade rum,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. We're we're constantly seeing these toxic couples
Speaker 1: and these problematic this this is that I don't think
Speaker 1: it's good for people, and I don't think it's good
Speaker 1: this access people have to people's lives so much now
Speaker 1: that they feel entitled to their lives and entitled to
Speaker 1: opinions about these people that they don't even know. That's
Speaker 1: why I feel like sometimes curation is good. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: better if you only see this person's picture when it's
Speaker 1: a paparazzi photo of them leaving somewhere, not a paparazzi
Speaker 1: photo of them being intimate with someone or something like that.
Speaker 1: I just feel like this like access or like just
Speaker 1: and straight up and tightened it. So maybe, and I
Speaker 1: hate to cut you off, but maybe there's a thing
Speaker 1: with us where we have to understand that the thing
Speaker 1: that makes you all different is this is this experience
Speaker 1: with social media and the internet, and that that experience
Speaker 1: cannot be defined so rigidly as good or bad. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, what I'm hearing from you is
Speaker 1: that it's a layered, in complex experience that we need
Speaker 1: to be aware of. That there is such a thing
Speaker 1: as a life influencer as opposed to a regular influence.
Speaker 1: I've never even heard that before me. That's the crazy part.
Speaker 1: Y'all learn that in school and grown ups don't even
Speaker 1: they don't know how to regulate their social media like that, right,
Speaker 1: So how can they even begin to talk to you
Speaker 1: about it when they don't even know that? That's my
Speaker 1: mind was blown when you said that, Like and also
Speaker 1: and also trying to audit myself mentally, like, yeah, which
Speaker 1: which one? Are you right? Because clearly not everything is bad?
Speaker 1: Right everything? You know? I think that the people in
Speaker 1: my age bracket and above, you know, we're we're a
Speaker 1: little bit in shock, overwhelmed. We're a little bit overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot both. Oh my god, Like the
Speaker 1: internet came when we were in high school, friends, like
Speaker 1: it happens, things started happening from there, it was like
Speaker 1: the beeper the cell phone, and it was just like
Speaker 1: and we still gotta keep up with y'all two and
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, it's like it's it's so stuff here.
Speaker 1: I mean for staying in your lane. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: here for it, for being this, this adult, this the
Speaker 1: adult that you are right now. I'm here for you
Speaker 1: doing that. But I'm also here for you to to
Speaker 1: expand your mind and be able to relate to the youth, because,
Speaker 1: you know, I believe the children are a future. They
Speaker 1: are you know, So it's not it's not that deep.
Speaker 1: You have to open up more real talk after the break, Lana,
Speaker 1: you mentioned sexuality. Um, we've like when I grew up,
Speaker 1: I'll say that when I grew up that that homosexual
Speaker 1: men were in an area of the city where I
Speaker 1: grew up in Philly. They were in one area, and
Speaker 1: if that's what you wanted to see or hang around,
Speaker 1: or that's what you wanted to experience, then that's where
Speaker 1: you went. Now people are finally able to be all
Speaker 1: of themselves everywhere they go, and nobody has to live
Speaker 1: in ase it anymore. Do you do you grasp how
Speaker 1: what a what a gigantic, big deal that is. It's
Speaker 1: so weird. It's so weird, and sometimes about it too.
Speaker 1: I think about it two Sometimes I asked my mom, like,
Speaker 1: you really didn't have like a phone with a screen
Speaker 1: on it, Like how is it like now you just
Speaker 1: used to Now you've got this tap smartphone. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know that, but you even have them buttons. I'm like, girl,
Speaker 1: we had a rotary our generation keeping up all day.
Speaker 1: She's so right. I didn't even think about it like that.
Speaker 1: She's so right. Yeah, you get so used to it,
Speaker 1: because it's like you get so accustomed to it and
Speaker 1: so fast. I feel like, maybe just me, I feel
Speaker 1: like it. You get so fastly. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: there'll be four year olds that know how to work
Speaker 1: the iPad. I remember the end of the day. Uh,
Speaker 1: my little cousin was here, And it wasn't the other day.
Speaker 1: It was a long time ago. He was about three
Speaker 1: and he has YouTube up and he tells me he
Speaker 1: wants to watch the Spider Man video and I'm thinking history,
Speaker 1: let me look it up for him. He's like no,
Speaker 1: he typed Spider Man into the YouTube bar and searches
Speaker 1: it out. I'm like, yeah, let me know, I've seen
Speaker 1: nine month olds been able to scroll through things and
Speaker 1: find like the like the parents had a series of
Speaker 1: films or movies or whatever in there in the little iPad,
Speaker 1: and baby just just went and found what they wanted.
Speaker 1: You can't even read, you can t spider Man into YouTube.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of like I just wonder what I
Speaker 1: can't wait see I'll become grown ups. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: does that look like when knowledge starts from that point?
Speaker 1: And also here's a question to Lena, what's the chill
Speaker 1: looked like? Because I was thinking about that as you
Speaker 1: was giving us your reenactment of what happened in class
Speaker 1: that day and all of that knowledge and well readiness
Speaker 1: that you have, I was like, what is the chill?
Speaker 1: What is the like? Yeah, how how do you how
Speaker 1: do you kind of manage yeah, knowing these things like
Speaker 1: where where is the where is the kids? Like the
Speaker 1: kid like lightness? Then we tackle that other question, Okay,
Speaker 1: because because it's a it's a whole new world. Did
Speaker 1: you hear what jail I asked you? Yeah? About like, um,
Speaker 1: people having so many sexual identities. I feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: and this is just might be one thing that I noticed,
Speaker 1: But sometimes I feel like people make it seem like
Speaker 1: it's a lot, a lot more overwhelming than it is.
Speaker 1: For example, Uh, there's this thing on the internet called
Speaker 1: neo pronouns. We're not on the internet, but some people
Speaker 1: really it's just like where people's pronouns aren't she heard?
Speaker 1: They they're like, uh something like some people like to
Speaker 1: be called like different like objects as they're pronouns, And
Speaker 1: I don't entirely understand it. But I've never met a
Speaker 1: person that used that. But there's such this there's this
Speaker 1: big discourse on the internet or whether this is something
Speaker 1: people should do, or this is stupid, this is this
Speaker 1: is a but still never even met anyone that uses
Speaker 1: those pronouns. It's almost like people want it to be, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know what anybody is these days, but it's
Speaker 1: like some of these people have never even met a
Speaker 1: non binary person. You just want to be overwhelmed by
Speaker 1: these things. You feel like it's all around you when
Speaker 1: it really isn't. Again it there are so much more
Speaker 1: openness in society today, but there are also some people
Speaker 1: in this world that's still kind of live in a
Speaker 1: bit of a pocket. And I feel like, as a society,
Speaker 1: we need to stop pretending like it's it's like changing
Speaker 1: our way of life. I guess I feel like we
Speaker 1: should have never really assume what someone goes by. Again,
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, don't know I had short,
Speaker 1: foresty hair, I would be miss gendered a lot, and
Speaker 1: I was born a girl, So it's like, is that
Speaker 1: right though? But when someone tells you don't assume people's gender,
Speaker 1: you're automatically a king. Oh this changes my way of life.
Speaker 1: I don't approve of this. I don't approve of that.
Speaker 1: But I was born a girl and you miss gendered me.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like, why don't we just use these
Speaker 1: neutral words for people? Why is that so hard? Because
Speaker 1: it could offend the same people. You say you're tired
Speaker 1: of the girls with day weaves, and they this, and
Speaker 1: they that I presented myself as naturally and you still
Speaker 1: disrespected me. And I was and I'm not a part
Speaker 1: of any community that you're so called don't approve of.
Speaker 1: So I don't get it. You know what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. You know, people try so hard to make
Speaker 1: this is this is someone's one fault. This is changing
Speaker 1: my lifestyle, when really your lifestyle just wasn't productive. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't it never worked, It wasn't cool. It never worked,
Speaker 1: and you know it never worked, and you know it
Speaker 1: never worked. You know, it was never helping anybody. And
Speaker 1: I like that. We live in the world that's open,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it could be a lot more opener,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it. I feel like people want
Speaker 1: to be overwhelmed. Sometimes people want something to be mad at.
Speaker 1: We need something to be mad as a society because
Speaker 1: we need to direct our anger towards something that's not
Speaker 1: the big issues. So we can swallow our pill and
Speaker 1: we can you know, make it seem like everything's okay.
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, the reason everything sucks because the pink
Speaker 1: sauce lady. That's why. Imn No, she might be bad,
Speaker 1: but she didn't make all these things. Unfortunately, is not
Speaker 1: the root of all of our issues. Fifteen. Okay, is
Speaker 1: this it's a fair question. Do you feel a need
Speaker 1: or desire to be around us, you mean, like adults. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just say that that, Um, your mother's
Speaker 1: friends are pretty much like her. You know, they're they're
Speaker 1: interesting and knowledgeable. You know, they're they're cool in their
Speaker 1: own way, you know, living life and learning as they
Speaker 1: go like the like most people with good sense, I
Speaker 1: think you know, you learn and you stumble and you
Speaker 1: get back up and you're like, oh, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, because you have so much um information.
Speaker 1: You have this this I don't know if I could
Speaker 1: call it clarity. You don't know if that's exactly what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, but the insight to expand and grow
Speaker 1: on a daily basis because you've got so many tools
Speaker 1: to do it. Do you feel like you you still
Speaker 1: enjoy us or or need us in any way other
Speaker 1: than financially taking care of you? I asked, Actually, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, do you want me without my cash? App? Dude?
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to speak as much as
Speaker 1: you can for young people around your age, like do
Speaker 1: y'all y'all f with us. I feel like some of
Speaker 1: us are at a point where it's like it's been
Speaker 1: a very big thing. It's like I won't respect my
Speaker 1: elders and it's like respect back, and this is that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very progressive place to be in.
Speaker 1: But I feel like we need family. I feel like
Speaker 1: people that cut all ties they end up kind of
Speaker 1: missing it. And I don't feel like I get disrespected
Speaker 1: in my family, just like as an example, I know
Speaker 1: there's some people that kind of move on that wavelength
Speaker 1: um or even like if they have like political disagreements
Speaker 1: with their family, they're just like, no, I'm done, And
Speaker 1: I completely understand that. And to speak for my whole generation,
Speaker 1: I just would have to address that fact of it,
Speaker 1: because there are some people that genuinely do you know,
Speaker 1: perceive their family members as like or even the older
Speaker 1: people in their life is just kind of like, I
Speaker 1: don't respect your opinion and you don't respect my opinion.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the end of our relationship. Besides
Speaker 1: you know, the cash app, like my mom said, but
Speaker 1: I think there is like I feel like, as young
Speaker 1: people again, we still kinna are a bit stuck in
Speaker 1: our ways a bit about what's immature, Like oh, I
Speaker 1: can't saying my mom's my best friend, but there are
Speaker 1: a lot of us that are just like I love
Speaker 1: my mom is my best friend. I love to have conversation.
Speaker 1: I love having conversations with older black ladies. My mom
Speaker 1: knows this. I know. When you guys ask that question,
Speaker 1: she was just like, that's my happy place. I just
Speaker 1: I am completely I need that insight because again, you
Speaker 1: guys ask like what kind of keeps me grounded in
Speaker 1: a bit? And I do like having friends that aren't
Speaker 1: really as interested in these topics just because it kind
Speaker 1: of helps take my mind off of it, because it's
Speaker 1: a lot and you can kind of find the real
Speaker 1: reason why this is that, and this is that, like
Speaker 1: if you canna get caught up and all that stuff
Speaker 1: sometimes just living your life. But it's easy to just
Speaker 1: t have those people. You can just kind of turn
Speaker 1: off that side of your brain. You can just kind
Speaker 1: of enjoy that childlif perspective. But then it's nice to
Speaker 1: have conversations like this with a bunch of educated, beautiful,
Speaker 1: intelligent women, and it's like it feels like you're more
Speaker 1: so heard and you can relate. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: I could talk about my favorite show with my friends,
Speaker 1: and then I could talk about, you know, red Lining
Speaker 1: with you guys, and I can talk about, like, I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about your favorite show, what you mean
Speaker 1: red Line? And I always go so deep, you know.
Speaker 1: Me and my mom actually do watch a lot of
Speaker 1: the same shows, by the way, and I've been trying
Speaker 1: to get her to watch The Sandman on Netflix recently
Speaker 1: and she won't watch it. And I know your grandma. Now,
Speaker 1: I know you got business, but you when Reverika snuggle
Speaker 1: up and watch that show? Mom. First of all, I
Speaker 1: did watch Rolla. You put me onto Umbrella Academy. Is
Speaker 1: She's three? So bad? No season three? So no season three?
Speaker 1: But I mean one is two was good. They changed
Speaker 1: stuff up and it's weird they switched it up. But
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, you put so. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought up a show because my son and I got
Speaker 1: a chance to watch You Fouria together. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you all watched You four. You have you
Speaker 1: watched that at all? I know you watch its safe space.
Speaker 1: It's a safe space. She can't do nothing. Let me
Speaker 1: just well, first answer, did you watching Lana? I've seen
Speaker 1: some of it. I it's the episodes are too long
Speaker 1: for me to actually watch all of it. But I've
Speaker 1: seen some of this. That's a thing like, Okay, I've
Speaker 1: noticed that your generation also wants things kind of quick.
Speaker 1: You don't really want to long form any just pay storytelling.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's really my thing. I don't
Speaker 1: like all the moves into that I feel like it's
Speaker 1: kind of lazy. I don't know it's a controversial to say.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little zy. It's just like
Speaker 1: everybody is allowed to have an opinion. I will say
Speaker 1: this to the listeners, Um, if you haven't watched Euphoria,
Speaker 1: there's a real reason why they're winning all these awards.
Speaker 1: And it's not just because Zendia is beautiful, Like she's
Speaker 1: exceptionally talented, and so is that cast and the stories
Speaker 1: that they're telling. When I watched it, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't really have to answer a lot of questions
Speaker 1: because a lot of the answers are in euphoria. When
Speaker 1: we're talking about accountability, when we're talking about sex, drugs,
Speaker 1: when we're talking about sexuality, when we're talking when we're
Speaker 1: talking about living, a lot of the experiences are in euphoria, recovery, uh,
Speaker 1: the list relationship with parents, relationships. I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: to be a hater, because again, I actually have what
Speaker 1: I've seen in the second season. I actually really like
Speaker 1: it's a lot more slow paced. I just don't don't like.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like if you can't keep it
Speaker 1: in one place and keep the audience's attention. I think
Speaker 1: it's it might be overwhelming, and that's kind of how
Speaker 1: it is for me. Don't like multiple storylines like that,
Speaker 1: I do. I don't like multiple storylines and when it
Speaker 1: waves together kind of that's where I kind of like
Speaker 1: the end of the season, the first season a little bit,
Speaker 1: but again, I'm not sure how all of it ends.
Speaker 1: The first season is a little fast face for me,
Speaker 1: but I like what I've seen. The second I might
Speaker 1: go back and watch it, but I think that again,
Speaker 1: not because again, I don't want to be like the
Speaker 1: one person that doesn't like the show I do. What
Speaker 1: do you think in terms of like media, like, I think, uh,
Speaker 1: from a parental standpoint, it's always hard to kind of
Speaker 1: I think lock into media or that that that expresses
Speaker 1: or feels like it's speaking for young people. It feels
Speaker 1: like as soon as we lock into something, y'all have
Speaker 1: moved on. Or we'll lock into something and we'll think, oh,
Speaker 1: this is groundbreaking, and y'all are like, yeah, whatever, we
Speaker 1: don't even talk like that. And I remember being a
Speaker 1: young person and having that, you know, like our parents
Speaker 1: thinking that hip hop was like the Rice Crispi's commercial
Speaker 1: when snap Crackling pop was wrapping there like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: I like that that that jingle is nice. If that
Speaker 1: all the rap music sounded like that, I would love it.
Speaker 1: And we were like, that's that's that's not how that sounds. So,
Speaker 1: you know, is there any like media that you really
Speaker 1: think like, Okay, this is on the post of kind
Speaker 1: of what young people are feeling and they're connecting with.
Speaker 1: I would say, again, are There are a lot of
Speaker 1: themes in You for You. I think a really really
Speaker 1: good for parents to watch, even but I don't want
Speaker 1: them to think that all of their children are living
Speaker 1: that life. I feel like some parents might watch You
Speaker 1: for You and come back thinking my child's a drug
Speaker 1: addict or something like that, Like no, you used to
Speaker 1: be careful, don't don't make the wrong assumptions. But just
Speaker 1: like kind of just the life they're living in, kind
Speaker 1: of the emotions they're feeling, is very beautifully portrayed in
Speaker 1: that show, especially with Sindea, Like again, like she's very
Speaker 1: talented to re iterate what's already been said. But again,
Speaker 1: the show that I watched on Amazon Prime called We
Speaker 1: Are Who We Are, It's really nice to me, Uh,
Speaker 1: the emotion of the show, it's very it's not it's um,
Speaker 1: it's not too explicit on the themes. It lets you
Speaker 1: kind of think of it for yourself. But the way
Speaker 1: the characters behave seems very normal to me, and um,
Speaker 1: their emotions just seemed very normal to me. And again
Speaker 1: it's kind of uh, it's less this. Yeah, I liked
Speaker 1: the show. I liked the show. I thought it was
Speaker 1: very interesting. You get very invested into it, and it's
Speaker 1: much more slow pace, I would say, UM, and I
Speaker 1: feel like if Euphoria is kind of too fast for you,
Speaker 1: then maybe you might like that show. But they tackle
Speaker 1: some different themes and they also tackle um something that
Speaker 1: isn't really that prevalent in Euphoria, which is there's a
Speaker 1: character with mental illness that's not like rus. It's more
Speaker 1: so like Uh. I think he might struggle with UM.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make a guess, but it's different
Speaker 1: than what she goes through, but it's behaviors and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's the interesting watch, I would say, And now all
Speaker 1: the episodes are I don't think they're having a season too.
Speaker 1: But it also deals with the black female main character
Speaker 1: that trying to transition into a trans man, which is
Speaker 1: kind of similar to some of the themes that are
Speaker 1: in Euphoria, but with yeah, Yeah, I love a good
Speaker 1: TV wreck. More conversation after the break, you were talking
Speaker 1: about being in the car with your dad and you
Speaker 1: wanted him listen to some of the music. I was
Speaker 1: just curious what you were playing for your dad. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is not music I particularly listen to. But my
Speaker 1: dad's very interested in djaying and stuff, and I be
Speaker 1: trying to put him onto stuff that communicates my age
Speaker 1: or listening to, or at least something that like, if
Speaker 1: he put it on, they'd be like, WHOA, what do
Speaker 1: you know about this? I put on some Destroy Lonely
Speaker 1: for him. I put on some Yet I put on
Speaker 1: some Frank Ocean and that was about it. He knows
Speaker 1: about Frank Ocean some other stuff. And speaking of Steve
Speaker 1: Lacey again, I love Steve Lacey. He's so cool. Even
Speaker 1: just a person is very cool. Um, So, Steve Lacey,
Speaker 1: if you're watching, you might not be, but I'm cool
Speaker 1: with you. I'm messed with you. But I should have
Speaker 1: played some Steve Lacey for dad, because he did have
Speaker 1: that one song inside that I feel like people forgot
Speaker 1: was him because they kind of just rose up this year.
Speaker 1: But he's kind of impossible years years so that I
Speaker 1: can front. I've been in his dams for a long time.
Speaker 1: Like you going, young man. He was giving, he was
Speaker 1: giving four Auntie vibes and listen, that's my point. That
Speaker 1: was what I was trying to get, Atlina, because I
Speaker 1: catch myself around um young people and I'm very much
Speaker 1: an auntie. Like I'm not. I'm not like you know,
Speaker 1: your friend. I'm really like your auntie. You need some advice, honey,
Speaker 1: you need you need um direction for something. I may
Speaker 1: not know, but I might know somebody who knows somebody
Speaker 1: and maybe they can help you get where you want
Speaker 1: to go. You know, I'm kind of the mentor kind
Speaker 1: of auntie, you know, the celebration kind of auntie. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be judgmental about things. I want
Speaker 1: you to be joyful. You know. That's like I want
Speaker 1: you to be joyful and everything that you do, and
Speaker 1: if it doesn't suit you, I want you to stop
Speaker 1: doing that. You know. That's kind of where I am.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I don't know, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's annoying. Is that annoying? Like if it isn't.
Speaker 1: That's that entirely is why I feel like, again, kids
Speaker 1: my age love their aunties. They need their aunties, even
Speaker 1: if they won't all admit it. And again, those people
Speaker 1: that are kind of done with dealing with the generational
Speaker 1: traumas and stuff like that, and letting go of their
Speaker 1: older relatives and stuff. It's a very small fraction of people.
Speaker 1: Same thing with the very small fraction of people that
Speaker 1: you encounter that really their identities are super confusing quote unquote.
Speaker 1: People tend to be like, oh, there's so many people
Speaker 1: are the kids are leaving us. The kids don't care
Speaker 1: about this. They're ungrateful, dadda, they're confusing me. Now, Really
Speaker 1: it's only a little bit of them. And the ones
Speaker 1: that are getting completely cut off or not like y'all,
Speaker 1: the ones that are getting completely cut off are the
Speaker 1: ones that kind of deserve, you know, problem problematic and
Speaker 1: then and and even then, you know, sometimes all it
Speaker 1: says a little switch, behavid, Maybe you'll be back, Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll be back. Maybe sometimes we got work to do.
Speaker 1: A lot of times some of us don't know. It's
Speaker 1: the ones that don't know and don't want to do nothing.
Speaker 1: Back and again, I kind of have an air of
Speaker 1: tolerance for ignorance a little bit, you know, I have.
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of tolerance for that. I'll
Speaker 1: attempt to educate it, not at all, let it sit.
Speaker 1: But if I was having a problem with something, I'll
Speaker 1: make it know, you know. And it doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 1: you have to cut ties. But it's just like something
Speaker 1: I have issue with something of issue. We could talk
Speaker 1: about it or we could not talk. Can we circle
Speaker 1: back to that question I asked you earlier about, you know,
Speaker 1: relaxing being a kid and how you how you tend
Speaker 1: to do that being a child? I know kid is
Speaker 1: not appropriate. I'm sorry, No, no, I actually don't have
Speaker 1: a problem with that, actually, but I touched on it
Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's just like being around people
Speaker 1: that don't really not don't care about these issues but
Speaker 1: don't really know a whole bunch about it, and like
Speaker 1: almost like prohibits me from me even talking about it
Speaker 1: because it really make a lot of sense. It's just
Speaker 1: like hearing them talk about the stuff they're interested in
Speaker 1: that kind of just makes you. Can you put you
Speaker 1: on a supportive standpoint, like, oh, you want to play
Speaker 1: a video game, we'll play a video game. Oh, you
Speaker 1: guys want to watch a movie tonight, We'll watch a
Speaker 1: movie tonight, or you're gonna go do whatever. It's like
Speaker 1: it kind of takes your mind off of those big
Speaker 1: subjects that kind of always boom boom booming, and again
Speaker 1: you could just like turn it off for a second
Speaker 1: and you can focus on well, they're interested in there,
Speaker 1: and you're also interested in as well. Just sometimes I
Speaker 1: tend to think, oh, this is low key racist, Oh
Speaker 1: this is loki. I just wanted to turn it off
Speaker 1: every once in again line, I'm like you I can, okay.
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is that what I do love
Speaker 1: about my kids is that they're gonna call a Spain
Speaker 1: as pay. They're not gonna fall into the part where
Speaker 1: it's on their neck, but they're they're gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's they're gonna call that for what it is, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I think they can enjoy
Speaker 1: life in ways that that that they can still enjoy
Speaker 1: the joy aspect of a thing but still be realistic
Speaker 1: about what they're looking at. And I feel like I
Speaker 1: always think about it reminds me of the Whiz. I
Speaker 1: grew up with the Whiz and the Whiz is such
Speaker 1: a significant part of my growing up and I love
Speaker 1: this piece of work. It's one of the most important
Speaker 1: pieces of art of my childhood, the Whiz. But as
Speaker 1: I got older and I became a little bit more
Speaker 1: aware of certain things, there's things in the Winds I
Speaker 1: can't unsee. Now I still love it, but I I
Speaker 1: could call it for the big black dirt and horrible
Speaker 1: which that forces everyone to work in a sweatshop. Stop
Speaker 1: a lot of I can't. The monkeys bothered me, the
Speaker 1: flying monkeys, the monkeys. The good witch is light skinned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but did you see their lips? Stop it? Stop it.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's not even with the scarecrows scar
Speaker 1: the music. He just wrote the music. He just wrote
Speaker 1: the music. He just wrote. Yeah, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that it's it's an important and
Speaker 1: beautiful piece of work. And like I said, one of
Speaker 1: the best lessons I learned that life came from the Winds,
Speaker 1: which it was just like everything that you need is
Speaker 1: in you. If you keep trying to look externally for
Speaker 1: the things that you'll never be able to be who
Speaker 1: you are and be in the fullness of yourself and
Speaker 1: as long as you're aware of the fullness of yourself,
Speaker 1: your home, anywhere you are, so that that will never
Speaker 1: be taken away, you know, in that sense of the word.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't typically ask this question, but
Speaker 1: I know we're running out of time, and I really
Speaker 1: want Jail to ask my baby, you know, the jad
Speaker 1: Ill question my pleasure, Lana Danzler, that's my what's on
Speaker 1: your heart? What is on my heart? Currently? Wow, it's
Speaker 1: a big one. You know, last time you ask me
Speaker 1: this question, I hadn't started high school yet. And last
Speaker 1: time you ask me this question, I did not have
Speaker 1: a niece, so a lot of changed. Um. So I
Speaker 1: would say, as a for right now, what is all
Speaker 1: my heart? It's just appreciation, just very grateful this time,
Speaker 1: in this moment. You know, recently, I've been feeling attached,
Speaker 1: dressed out, but I feel like, uh, ever since the
Speaker 1: nineteenth that I've just been very uh, very grateful. I
Speaker 1: feel like my whole energy, um, in my life has
Speaker 1: gotten so much better. So I would say all my
Speaker 1: heart is just love. I just feel love right now,
Speaker 1: just feel so. I just I'm feeling so much better,
Speaker 1: so much happier, and I feel like everyone around me
Speaker 1: is too, which is so great. It feels so great.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's about the extent of what is all
Speaker 1: my heart this moment. Steet baby is living in gratitude.
Speaker 1: It's not a baby, it's a young woman and you
Speaker 1: know my older self. You know, I have to say
Speaker 1: this that I've been waiting all my life to be
Speaker 1: this Ay, I have been waiting all my life to
Speaker 1: have this this level of experience. And you know, I
Speaker 1: have some wisdom that I love to share and I'm
Speaker 1: really really grateful for this, and I'm really grateful for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for talking to us and sharing
Speaker 1: with us and thinking out loud and letting us know
Speaker 1: that we do have some value in your lives, because
Speaker 1: we need to know that too, We really do. You know,
Speaker 1: you all are so beautiful. It's so beautiful and so creative,
Speaker 1: and the way that you think is we really marvel
Speaker 1: at it, quite frankly, and I just want to give
Speaker 1: you your your flowers where you're sitting right now and
Speaker 1: give you a big round of applause. Thank you, Thank
Speaker 1: you for being here with us. Thank you all the
Speaker 1: listeners for listening to Jay Datiel the podcast. We are
Speaker 1: sparking conversation to spark some mo love you so much,
Speaker 1: take care of y'all peace. How do you eat an elephant?
Speaker 1: One by a kind? Hey, listeners, it's Amber the producer here.
Speaker 1: After that conversation, I am quietly humming my children on
Speaker 1: the future. I mean, wow, Lana is a treasure, but
Speaker 1: really are we surprised she's the daughter of one of
Speaker 1: our wisest Internet onto East Asia. Lana mentioned a show
Speaker 1: that we should all check out called Who We Are
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. So let's do our homework and give
Speaker 1: it a watch. I'll drop the link in our show notes.
Speaker 1: Hi if you have comments on something he said in
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