1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Julia is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: follow up. She's getting ghosted by a guy named Walker. 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: So in a minute, we're gonna call him and see 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: if we can figure out why he's ghostinger. But first, Julia, 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Walker? 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: About a week? 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Okay? 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 4: Week? 11 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 5: Okay, that's kind of the sweet spot. How many times 12 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 5: have you reached out to him in that in that time? 13 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: I've sent him a couple of packs, like three or four, Like, 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: what's a couple? 15 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: About three? 16 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: It's not too bad, and you've heard nothing from him? 17 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: Nothing, not a peep. 18 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: All right, tell us a little bit about your date. 19 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: He asked me to meet him at a sushi restaurant, 20 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: which I thought was really cool. Okay, we had dinner 21 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: and he hadn't had much sushi before, so he let 22 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: me kind of pick everything out, and he seemed to 23 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: really like what I picked out, like especially the spicy tuna. 24 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 25 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So dinner was went really well. He told me 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 3: all about his business studies starting, and he just seems 27 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: so motivated and passionate. I loved that. And then we 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: went for a walk, which I thought was a really 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 3: good sign. 30 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: Okay, how was the walk? 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: It was nice. I mean it lasted about an hour 32 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: and we just kept talking. 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: How did it end? Like, did you all kiss? 34 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: Hug five? We hugged? 35 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. 36 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 5: Did anything happen between the walk and dinner that may 37 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: have been a little bit off? 38 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing I can think is that 39 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: I recently I told him a lot about my work too, 40 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: because he was telling me a lot about his business. 41 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: And I recently got a promotion at work and I 42 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: was so excited about it. Congrats, thank you. So I 43 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: just wondered if that rubbed him the wrong way. 44 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Or something like, how do you think that could rubbed 45 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: him the wrong way? 46 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: Well, he loved a little I don't know, like he 47 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: didn't want to ask me a lot about it or something. 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: And I wondered if because he's having he's just at 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: the beginning stages of starting his business, if he felt 50 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: a little insecure or something that I'm doing so well 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: in my career. 52 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Did he talk a lot about his business? 53 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: He did talk a fair amount. I mean he seemed 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: excited about it and like he was really interested in 55 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: what he's doing. 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how that would take away from what 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: you're doing, but I mean there are guys like that, 58 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: so I believe it, but I don't know this. 59 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 60 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like maybe he's not quite where he 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: wants to be in his career, so I wonder. 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: If that was it. 63 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: Well, that's also kind of a red flag for you, 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 5: because you want to be with somebody that's a little 65 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 5: bit more secure in that space. 66 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, if that was it, I mean, we're highly 67 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: speculating it's this point. 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I honestly, I feel like I've come 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: across this before. 70 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: So Okay, that's what. 71 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: Made me wonder if that's the only thing I can 72 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: think of, because we just had the. 73 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Best time, okay. 74 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: And then at the end when you guys hugged, did 75 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: he say like, oh I want to meet up again 76 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: or anything like that, or did he just bounce? 77 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: No, I think we just said we had a really 78 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: nice time. 79 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we'll see if we can figure out for you. 80 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: We'll play a song, come back and then call him 81 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you 82 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: and maybe get you another date. 83 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: If you still want one. 84 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, we'll plays on come back, get 85 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: your first date follow up next. Right in the middle 86 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: of your first date follow up, if you're just joining us, 87 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: Julia is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by 88 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: a dude named Walker. So we're just about to call 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: him see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her 90 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: and maybe get her another date. But before we do that, Julia, 91 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: why don't you refresh everybody's memory on your date with Walker. 92 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: We went out for an amazing Seehi's dinner and had 93 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: a nice walk afterwards, and he told me about his 94 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: business that he's starting up, and he seems super into it, 95 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: and I told him all about my promotion at work 96 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: and how excited. 97 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: I was about it. Did you make a lot of 98 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Walker jokes while you were walking? I couldn't even think 99 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: about that. I just thought of her right now. 100 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: That could also be a reason if you wouldn't stop 101 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: with the Walker jokes, like I would go hand on that. 102 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: That would have been a great joke. I totally. 103 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 104 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe that is the reason, but maybe not. William, 105 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: we'll call him right now, are you ready? 106 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? 107 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: Ok, here we go. He Hi'm I thinking the Walker please? 108 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Ye hey, man, how are you? This is a radio show, 109 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: it's called The Jubil Show. My name's Jebel. 110 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Miana. Also on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria. 111 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: We got an email about you from somebody that you 112 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: are ghosting and they want to know why you're not 113 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: calling them back. 114 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, okay, this is Julia. 115 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Walker. 116 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, Julia emailed us, told us a little bit about 117 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: your date and is really confused why you're ghosting her? 118 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: Am I telling us? 119 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's about it. I'm starting to think 120 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: maybe emailing a radio show about it to be on 121 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: that list, But that wasn't it initially? 122 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so wait, what's the deal? Why are you a ghostinger? 123 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, man. Like, we went to dinner and 124 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: it was fun. It was great. Actually, we got some sushi. 125 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 4: I'm not used to that stuff, but I housed a 126 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: couple spicy tuneroles. Those things are. 127 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 6: Great, and it was fun, you know, like it seemed 128 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 6: pretty easy at first, but she kind of got on, 129 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 6: Oh god, she kind of got on like this. 130 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: Tangent about her job and stuff and how she got 131 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: this new promotion. And then she was very excited about it. 132 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 4: It's it's it's cool, but it's kind of dominated the 133 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: whole back end of the night, so I don't know, 134 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: it just kind of felt weird. 135 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: Not I don't know, she talked about her job too much? 136 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: Is that it it's not even just about I don't 137 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: know about the job, but just it seemed to be 138 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: just all encompassing, you know, like I don't know, like 139 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: somebody's whole identity is wrapped up in that, you know, and. 140 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: It's just I don't know, it just kind of was 141 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: it was kind of boring. 142 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry her job is boring, or the way she 143 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: talked about it. 144 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: Well, not that I don't know, you like, I don't 145 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: know much about finance, but that you know, just the 146 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: same thing over and over again. 147 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: You know. 148 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: Does that make sense that somebody's talking about just something 149 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: like you get excited and then it just goes downhill 150 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: and it's like, God, all right, I get it. 151 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, is that all she talked about 152 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: is just wasn't interesting or what I mean? 153 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: Sure, it's interesting. Interfe She talked about some crimes too, 154 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: and you know they seem nice, and a little bit 155 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: about her family but for the whole thing, it was 156 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: about like why enough promotion and then what I had 157 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 4: to do to get it, and I finally got it. 158 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: Now I felt about it afterwards, like God, rent a 159 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: movie or something that's terrible. 160 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 6: I shouldn't say that, but I feel bad or something. 161 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: Did you ask question? 162 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: I mean the usual stuff like, you know, where'd you 163 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: grow up and what were you into as a kid? 164 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: You know, did you play any sports? You know, where 165 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: do you live in the city like that kind of stuff. 166 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: You know, pretty pretty basic stuff I think when you're 167 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: on a first eight. 168 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: All right, well thanks for telling us, man, Yeah. 169 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: For sure, thanks for asking. 170 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: No problem. 171 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Julia is also on the on the phone and 172 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: has been listening to this whole time and wants to 173 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: talk to you. 174 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: I shoul tell you that I do you. 175 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 176 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm I'm sure she is, man, Yeah, right. 177 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: She really is. 178 00:07:53,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, welcome, Hey Julia. 179 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: Hey. Yeah, I guess I'm a little confused. I mean, 180 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: you seem yeah. I don't even know how to put. 181 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: It any more plainly than I did when I didn't 182 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: know you were there. But uh, you know, I don't 183 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: want to be mean. It's just I'm really happy for you. 184 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: But it just I don't know. I just feel like 185 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: maybe we're it's just not in the same spot. 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like someone can't accept a 187 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: woman in a relationship to be successful. 188 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that's that's not it. That's no, it's 189 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: not it at all. It's you know, I just want 190 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: to be with a little more interest in life. 191 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: I just are you intimidated by me? 192 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: Not even a little bit? 193 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. 194 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: I think it's great, you know, it seems to make 195 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: you really happy, and that's wonderful. I just don't know 196 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: if I can be a part of it. 197 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think you're intimidated by me, and you can't 198 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: be with a woman who's more successful than you. I 199 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: think that's what it is. 200 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I really don't know how to respond to that. 201 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: But that's absurd, that's not what this is. And it 202 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: feels kind of I don't know, that feels oddly accusatory 203 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 4: and weird to go through. It's not that at all, 204 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: trust me. I just think we're on two different playing 205 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: fields right now. That's all. 206 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's exactly what it is. But agree 207 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: to disagree. I guess sure. 208 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: I guess. Yeah, I'm sorry if I gave you that impression, 209 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: but that's not what this is, so please don't harbor 210 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: that ill. 211 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: Will towards Okay, Well, if you don't want someone who's 212 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: happy and feels good about their job, then you know 213 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: what can I do about that? 214 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do about it. 215 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: Keep being those things. 216 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 4: It's just not for me. I think it's great. I'm 217 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: very happy for you. 218 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I don't really believe you. So you know, 219 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: just because you can't be happy at your job doesn't 220 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: mean I can't be happy at mine. 221 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: I sure. 222 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Walker, would you like another day with Julia? 223 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: We'll pay for it. 224 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that would be a horrible idea. 225 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: This was a row 226 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: Jubile's first date Fall