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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory with you.

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Speaker 2: Phil Webster is an author, actor, spiritual seeker, and after

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Speaker 2: living abroad and traveling the world for twenty years, he

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Speaker 2: returned to his native England back in twenty seventeen and

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Speaker 2: embarked on an acting career. At the tail end of

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Speaker 2: the COVID nineteen pandemic, an unexplained event coupled with a

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Speaker 2: devastating loss sent him down a completely different path forever.

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Speaker 2: His debut book, Letting Glow, documents his journey into the

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Speaker 2: mystical and helps us connect with our highest states of intuition,

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Speaker 2: realigning the connection between our thoughts, consciousness, and authentic selves,

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Speaker 2: and ultimately search us for proof that we survive physical death.

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Speaker 2: His website is Phil Webster dot com, linked up at

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Speaker 2: Coast TOCOASTAM dot com.

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Speaker 1: Phil.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Hey George.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me back. Nice to speak to

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Speaker 3: you again.

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Speaker 4: Have you been Yeah, good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Just in a very i mean a very

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Speaker 3: dreary and gray London at the moment, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: to be expected.

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Speaker 2: That's typical London. Tell us about this journey that you

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Speaker 2: went down the spiritual path? What happened to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, we've briefly touched on it before, But for

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Speaker 3: anyone that didn't catch that episode, you know, I'd sort

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Speaker 3: of I've had little moments through the years that it

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Speaker 3: would seen. Every five years or so, I'd have some

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Speaker 3: weird events, something would be almost tapping me on the shoulder,

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Speaker 3: and I'd kind of just take note of these things

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Speaker 3: and think, well, you know, that was weird, and then

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Speaker 3: just move on. Someonere more profound than others. But really,

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Speaker 3: the catalyst to send me down this path and where

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Speaker 3: the books came from was something that happened around the

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Speaker 3: time my mom passed away, and that was at the

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Speaker 3: end of the COVID nineteen pandemic, and we would FaceTime

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Speaker 3: every day. I hadn't seen it for a few months,

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Speaker 3: and just to sort of cut straight to it, I

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Speaker 3: called her one night, as we did most days are

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Speaker 3: on FaceTime, and I saw a man standing beside her,

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Speaker 3: and I saw him long enough that I could describe him,

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Speaker 3: and he looked like he was probably in his late sixties,

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Speaker 3: had thin and gray hair, glasses, and kind of shocked

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Speaker 3: me because it was quite late at night. She lived

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Speaker 3: in a very rural place, and we were in another lockdown,

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Speaker 3: and I said, well, who's that?

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Speaker 4: And she said who's what?

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Speaker 3: And I was, okay, Mom, I just saw someone and

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Speaker 3: she and she just kind of just dismissed the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: and we spoke for another hour or so, and I

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Speaker 3: believed that there was no one physically with her, and

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Speaker 3: I just kind of just put it down to, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what, a glitch on the phone or something.

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Speaker 3: And then the next morning I got the phone call

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Speaker 3: that my mama passed away. So through all of the

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Speaker 3: grief and everything that comes with that, my mind kept

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Speaker 3: going back to this, this this guy. I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, well, what are we talking here? If I

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Speaker 3: rule out that there was no one physically there, then

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Speaker 3: I were talking spirit guys goes to what? So that

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Speaker 3: really that really opened the door of this this whole

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Speaker 3: path that I've gone down.

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Speaker 2: Do you think for a moment, Phil, that somebody had

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Speaker 2: broken into the house and maybe you've done it, done

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Speaker 2: her some harm?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean my initial reaction was so again, it was

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Speaker 3: We didn't have any other family there. I'm in London

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Speaker 3: stuff like that, but they would never show up after six.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I was. I initially thought it.

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Speaker 3: My mind didn't go to an intruder. It just kind

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Speaker 3: didn't immediately go to the spiritual. My head wasn't really

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Speaker 3: the more that made sense. And then I started looking

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Speaker 3: back on other things that had happened throughout my life

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Speaker 2: Did you ever figure out who that individual might have been?

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Speaker 3: I actually didn't. I thought it come to a conclusion

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Speaker 4: That was the thing. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was almost it almost offered me some comfort, but

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Speaker 3: He didn't look like Uncle Carl or something like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, So, you know, I just had different ideas

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Speaker 3: But I mean, at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 3: it's interesting again, a few years before this, I had

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Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't have brought into any of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: But with all the things that have happened since and

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Speaker 3: convinced that that we go on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did that episode with your mother's passing lead you

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Speaker 2: to write the first book, Letting Glow?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was it.

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Speaker 3: That was essentially I just documented my journey, so I

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Speaker 3: then I started learning to be a meetium myself and

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Speaker 3: then giving other people evidence that I know that I

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Speaker 3: didn't know about. It was just such a again, just

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Speaker 2: In the latest book, of course, phil is called Glowing Deeper,

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Speaker 2: book two of the Letting Glow trilogy. So it sounds

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just when I finished the first book, I

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Speaker 3: felt like I had a whole other book in me.

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Speaker 3: I just learned about all these amazing sort of spiritual

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Speaker 3: at the University of Bussalona, which is pretty specific subject.

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Speaker 3: But I was just intrigued by all these things I

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Speaker 3: of the spiritual practices as a whole and esoteric things.

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Speaker 2: What have you learned over the last few years?

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Speaker 4: So much?

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Speaker 3: Again, I'm I'm I'm forever the eternal skeptics. So at

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Speaker 3: continue in some form of consciousness but I'll always question

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Speaker 3: time because I need to stand by this. So Just's

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Speaker 3: wrote two books about it, but I can't help but

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Speaker 3: just sort of look at it always from both angles.

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Speaker 4: But I've learned.

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Speaker 2: You're still there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just just the actual Oh.

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Speaker 2: You're cutting out a little bit. Let's switch over to

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Speaker 3: You want to enforce my beliefs onto anybody else? I

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Speaker 3: totally get it that white people are skeptical about these things,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, just just there's so much that that that

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the work that you've done.

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Speaker 2: What have you learned about the other side till.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's so many aspects to it.

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Speaker 3: I've learned some from some of with with utmost respects

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Speaker 3: and back in the day oceans, we were all coming

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Speaker 4: At the time.

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Speaker 2: metaphysics of time and living in the now. Tell us

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Speaker 3: I had a very profound experience in my mid thirties,

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Speaker 3: and this quoite is somewhat.

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Speaker 4: Of a long winded story.

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Speaker 3: But back then, I've lived abroad from the UK for

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Speaker 3: It would be as though something were like setting me

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Speaker 2: So why do you think it took your mother's passinge

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I suppose for any of us, and

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Speaker 3: And it's also odd because you know, I'll talk about

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Speaker 3: now it's kind of this, This whole thing is. Since

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Speaker 2: Are strange things still happening to you?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I just feel that since opening up to again mediumship

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Speaker 3: These experiences, for any of your listeners that may have

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Speaker 3: But I feel that, yeah, when you kind of go

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Speaker 2: What is the biggest message you want people to take

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Speaker 3: I believe that it touches on a lot of subjects,

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Speaker 3: obviously life after death, but I think the one important

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of meditations in the books, and

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Speaker 4: You know, when you can recognize.

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Speaker 3: That that you're the one observing your thought, then you

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