1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, I'm welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's guest producer Noel 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: over there. So this is stuff you should know. Yeah, 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Noel likely to sit in on this one and not 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: just hit record and run screaming. Yeah, we were kind 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: of surprised. Yeah, it's weird though. It's been so long 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: since we had someone in here with it's been at 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: the Ghosts the studio that time forgot. But we have 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: to suck in our guts again. Sit up right, I 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: have to lick my fingers in the straight my hair 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: with them. Sure. So, Chuck, Yes, you are a gen 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: x or did you know that? Yeah? Are you? Yeah? 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: That was my next point? Sorry, I am too. Yeah, 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: uh no, I think it's a millennial. Know what you were? 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: You born? Knows a millennial? God knows what Jerry is 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah, she's of her own time. Um so boy, 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: none of us are. Jerry might be. I don't know 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: our baby boomers now, Jerry, you know Jerry's a gen xer. Yeah. 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: One thing that this inspired me to do was to 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: do a show on generations period. I find it fascinating 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: how people are grouped and also a little frustrated when. Um, 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: once I got into the sub groups, it helped me, 24 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: But when I looked at like, especially the Baby Boom generation, 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: there's such a clear difference in the which we'll get 26 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: to the early and the later part of that, it 27 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: was just like, well, why why don't you just call 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: them to different generations? Some people do well, some people do, 29 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: but for the most part they don't. For the most part, 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: people say, the baby boomers are people who are born 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: from ninety nineteen exty four is the general definition of them. Yeah, 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: it's just weird, Like my mom missed out on it 33 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: just by a couple of years. But then my sister 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: just missed out on it by a couple of years. 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: So it just doesn't seem like, I know, they're not 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: the same generation, but they it is not even close. 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be. No, it's not. And and again like 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll get into it a little bit more. 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: But um, some people say that's just too wide of 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: a swath. And more to the point, which this is 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: the basis of generations, the life experience of those of 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: the people on either end of that that twenty year 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: or so spectrum are so we're so wildly different that, yeah, 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: they don't. They can't be in the same generation. It 45 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense because the point of a generation, 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: um is that it is a group of people born 47 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: around the same time who all shared some sort of 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: major life experience, a collective life experience. Yeah, whether it's 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: culture or ideologies. Yeah, usually an event though, like the 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: assassination JFK's would go to for baby boomers that in 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: the event was so enormous that it shaped their worldview 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives, Like ours would be 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the where's the beef commercials? Right exactly? Uh, well, we 54 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: do share that though, Oh no, I'm I was dead serious, 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: You're not. Well, I don't know if that's the identifying 56 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: for well, for millennials, um, especially older millennials, it would 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: be like nine eleven would be for ours. Maybe Challenger, 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the Challenger explosion is the one I always go to. 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: Does it always have to be a disaster, No, it's 60 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: just gotta be an enormous event that enough people are 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: aware of and impacted by that it shapes who they are. 62 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: So it's almost like a group of people, all about 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: the same age, all being touched in relatively the same 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: way at the same time, so that their world view 65 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: is changed forever by that event. So where's the beef. Yeah, Okay, 66 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: that we agree. Uh So the reason, um, there were 67 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Well, the deal with the baby boomers is, 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: as you'll see, is that there are a lot of them, 69 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: and birth rates rose quite a bit in n and 70 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: stayed that way for about twenty years. And it's interesting 71 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: when you look at the reasons. Um, the most obvious 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: thing you can point to is just say, like, yeah, 73 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: dudes came home after the war and had a lot 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: of sex. Pretty much that has something to do with it. 75 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: But this article points out something I never considered, which 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: was sort of a convergence of of that and then 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: not just wanting to have a lot of sex after 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: the war, but the promise of like prosperity to come 79 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: after the war and like things are gonna be great, 80 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: so let's like go all in on the family. But 81 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: that converging with the uh a bit of an older 82 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: generation of parents post depression that may have waited to 83 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: have kids for very race reasons, and that kind of 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: all happening at the same time. Yeah, younger families having kids, 85 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: not postponing the older generation that had postponed having the kids, 86 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: all at the same time. Huge, huge population increases. From 87 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: nineteen uh, nineteen fifty to nineteen eighty, the American population 88 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: increased by fifty that's not From nineteen forty six to 89 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, the number of babies born year over 90 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: year increased by that's that's a lot. Yeah. So in 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: nineteen six millions, I think about an average of four 92 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: four million and change babies started being born every year, 93 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: and it kept going and going until I think nineteen 94 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: fifty seven, when it plateaued and stayed high for a while, 95 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: and then it dipped again starting in nineteen sixty four 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: sixty five, which coincided with the widespread availability of the pill. Uh. 97 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: One reason I think the baby boom generation is so 98 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: interesting and endlessly talked about and studied is because it 99 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: just there. The the shift, the ideological shift that they 100 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: were presiding over is it was was just massive. This 101 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: article kind of sums it up nicely, like they created 102 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: the youth movement of the sixties when they're in their twenties. 103 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: It was that culture excess of the seventies, and then 104 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: in the eighties they became the yuppies. And now they're 105 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: entering retirement or in retirement and running the world. And 106 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: then and and and then, as you'll see, a lot 107 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: of them are rebuffing the excess of hey, let's make 108 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: and spend tons of money, and like concentrating on giving back, 109 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: which was originally inspired by like the Kennedy administration volunteerism. 110 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: Yeah that that asked not what your country can do 111 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: for you? Yeah, that whole thing, right, But it's interesting 112 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: this one lady, the first moment, I'm sorry, the first 113 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: boomer born just after midnight in New Jersey. Uh, Kathleen 114 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Casey Kirschling is widely regarded as the first baby boomer. Yes, 115 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: she's born in January first nine. Yeah, and as you'll 116 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: see if you look at her life, she really is 117 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: like a symbol. And of course, you know that's kind 118 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: of the problem with generations, as you lumped them all 119 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: in as this, and of course it varies from person 120 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: to person. Well that's one criticism of even studying generations 121 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: in the first place. Yeah. Yeah, but she was married 122 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: for a time, got divorced, um has a self made pension, 123 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: that she accrued over the years, like I'm gonna take 124 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: care of my own, you know, retirement, doing appearances as 125 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: the world's first baby boomer. She missed out if she 126 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: didn't last be uh, and then like had a career, 127 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: it's successful careers, I think, like a corporate trainer. Then 128 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: in the early nineties left corporate America and became a 129 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: high school teacher for like fifteen or twenty years. She Yeah, 130 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: she basically read a book on how to be a 131 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: typical baby boom It's interesting. And now like splits time 132 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: between Maryland and Florida and his concentrated on volunteerism in 133 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: her retirement. That's really neat. Yeah, it's like she's kind 134 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: of the prototypical boomer of if you want to buy 135 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: into that thing. Yeah, traditional into non traditional family structure, 136 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: family life, right, career, took care of her her own retirement, 137 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: and then during retirement chose not to actually just retire, 138 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: but to stay active and engaged. That is it's pretty 139 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: typical boomerism. Yeah. Uh. Should we hit people over the 140 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: head with some of these stats? Yeah, I mean they 141 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: were pretty interesting, like I guess just because they came 142 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: at a really interesting time in America's history, Like the 143 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: Boomers started to be born at the same time as 144 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: the suburbs. The consumerism, American consumerism all really started with 145 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: the Baby Booms generation. They felt really good about spending 146 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: money on themselves. They were the first children targeted by advertisers. 147 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: When we're the advertising of kids that started with the boomers. Um. 148 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Everything changed around that time. Um and and in part 149 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: because of the Baby Boomers. So they're probably the most 150 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: studied generation in American history. Yeah. So there are more 151 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: California Boomers than any other state. I think Utah has 152 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: the fewest amount of boomers, but they still had like 153 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: twenty three percent of their their population was Baby boomers. Yeah, 154 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: but they're the only one that was under right. Uh 155 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: what else? Twelve point six percent the Boomers never got married, 156 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: which is uh from their parents generation only three point 157 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: nine percent never got married. So that's a pretty big 158 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: increase shunning nuptials. I wonder what it is now. I 159 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: couldn't find it. I don't know, it's just increasing. I'm 160 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: sure what people getting, oh, choosing not to get married 161 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: right or or living a non traditional or maybe it's 162 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: traditional now even like we're just together, we're just not 163 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: married partnerships. Um what else? I mean we could read 164 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: out stats all day, but that's boring. I thought you'd 165 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: love doing that. Okay, well, there were there were two 166 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: things that really stood out to me, though they go 167 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: hand in hand. Baby boomers expected their adult children to 168 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: move back in with them, and then thirty percent expect 169 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: their parents to move in with them, and for some 170 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: of those people that overlaps. One of the curious positions 171 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: that some boomers find themselves in is caring for adult 172 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: children and um aged parents at the same time, under 173 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: the same roof. Yeah, and I posted something a while 174 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: ago on stuff you Should Knows Facebook page and um, 175 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: something about kids moving back in and people like, what 176 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of losers, And then so many people from 177 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: all over the world. We're like, you know, America's like 178 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: the only country that feels that way, like that family 179 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: should leave at a certain age and not come back. 180 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: And they're like, all over the world people are like, 181 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: you know, we think it's a great thing. Family is huge, 182 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: and we welcome family to live with each other and 183 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, into their twenties or thirties if they want to. Bizarre, 184 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: we help each other, rely on each other, Yeah, weird 185 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: because I mean, I guess the rest of the world 186 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: doesn't know we In America, when you turn eighteen, they 187 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: have a c U in hell party where you leave 188 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: and um, you're not allowed to come back into the 189 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: house until you well, until your parents are dead. What 190 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: we call it a hit the bricks party. All you 191 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: were Baptist family. That's right. Now that we're making stuff up, 192 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: do you think we should take a break. Yeah, let's uh, 193 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: let's do some real research and come back into this again. 194 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: All right, chuck. So the baby boomers were until very 195 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: very recently the biggest generation that population wise to ever, 196 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: um ever hit America. And they hit America bite, they 197 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: hit a like brick of bricks. Yeah. But millennials are 198 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: they're taking over now, right, Yeah, Millennials just surpassed um 199 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,359 Speaker 1: the boomers in number from what I understand, Yes, millennials 200 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: as of two thousand and fifteen. Of course that number 201 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: has grown now U seventy four million, just edging out 202 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: seventy four point nine million Baby Boomers. But here's the thing. 203 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Millennials are still being born. Boomers are dying. Yeah, the boomers. Actually, 204 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: here's here's something that I just thought was amazingly interesting. 205 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: The Baby Boomers peaked fairly recently as far as their 206 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: numbers go. They peaked in at seventy eight point eight million, right, 207 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: and our generation is going to peak next year. So 208 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: if all the signs and symptoms that you personally are dying, 209 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: and I'm dying more and enough, our whole generation is 210 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: now dying. We're going to decline after next year. Yeah, 211 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: I think more and more about that. But our generation 212 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: peaking in two thous No about me dying, I know 213 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: what you like, I never thought I would be that 214 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: guy that um you know that just sort of like 215 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: that whole Woody Allen obsessed with your own death things? 216 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: Are you obsessed? No, but it's healthy to think about 217 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you're gonna die. Some some people believe, 218 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: including me, that accepting, genuinely accepting your own death is 219 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: the key to living fully. Yeah, I agree. I think 220 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: that's the struggle. Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean you 221 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: can throw that on a T shirt. But no, I 222 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: know sometimes I'm like, I wonder if if it just 223 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: hasn't fully sunk in yet and one day down the 224 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: road and be like, I'm gonna die. I think, uh, 225 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: this has come more and more for me in the 226 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: past five years. So I'll check back in with you 227 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: in five years. If I'm alive, I'd be bad. I'd 228 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: be really sad. Um. Yeah, it'd be sad for at 229 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: least three people that I know, and you're one of them. Um. 230 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: So I was talking earlier about the Boomers that age 231 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: range is too big and it needs to be split up, 232 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: and turns out it has been. Uh generally, if you 233 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: look at nine to fifty four, people refer to that 234 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: as the leading edge of the Boomers, and fifty five 235 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: and sixty four as shadow Boomers or Generation Jones. Yeah. 236 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: Did you look into that? Yeah, I mean did. The 237 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: name was the first thing I was like, well, where 238 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: did that come from? And apparently there's a few different 239 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: things either, like, uh, they were Jones ng for prosperity 240 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: of like days to come, more so than the leading edge. Yeah. 241 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: They had just as high expectations, if if not higher 242 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: than the first the first batch, but fewer resources available 243 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, it's a weird name. So they apparently 244 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: were considered to be more cynical, more bitter, yeah than 245 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: the first batch of baby boomers. And then um, also 246 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: their life experiences again like we're we're talking about earlier 247 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: so different that um that there, it's just a different generation. 248 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Everybody's just being stubborn and wants Baby Boomers to be 249 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: this twenty year generation rather than ten. Well, yeah, but 250 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: you were talking about the the life events or whatever, 251 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: the binding life events. Uh. These two writers, Howard Schumann 252 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: and Jacqueline Scott in the mid eighties kind of did 253 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of research on what they feel like. 254 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Is that what people feel like is they're defining thing 255 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: from their generation, and it is sharply divided. When you 256 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: have the leading edge, you've got obviously uh JFK, Robert Kennedy, 257 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, a lot of assassinations, the moonwalk, uh, 258 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Vietnam War, civil rights movement, and then the more cynical 259 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: um shadow Boomers or or Jones is uh, you're talking 260 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Nixon and Watergate, the Cold War, the oil and bargo. 261 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: It sort of makes sense. It's definitely too like those 262 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: are two pretty starkly different sets of events. They yeah, 263 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: they are. It's like almost a different world that happened, 264 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: that took places along that change along that divide America 265 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: switch gears in large party. And you asked earlier, if 266 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: it always has to be a disaster. Yeah, I mean 267 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: all of these basically are pretty glom and gloomy. I 268 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: think the disaster unites though. That's probably a big thing 269 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: that But also I think it leads to a loss 270 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: of innocence, which happens in a personal level as well. Right, 271 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: And that's kind of when you grow up, is when 272 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: you realize, oh my god, everything isn't totally stable and 273 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: my parents can't solve every problem in the world, and 274 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: there's like real strife and hardship and injustice and and 275 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: and bleakness. And when you realize that, suddenly say something 276 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: like that this president you idolize being assassinated. It can 277 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: it can have a real solidifying effect on your your life, 278 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: your outlook. Yeah. First you mentioned the challenger for us, 279 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: and I'm in no way like downgrading that, but for 280 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: me personally, and it might have just been the way 281 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: I received the news even it wasn't like, uh, I 282 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: don't feel like it like was the big defining thing. Okay, 283 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: it was obviously a big deal, But did you see 284 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: it happen? No, I don't think I saw it happen live, 285 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: which probably is a big factor. Um, but like Reagan 286 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: being assassinated is rings more in my head, at least 287 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: as a memory. I'm not saying it affected me as 288 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: much personally, but like when I think back, like what 289 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: big thing in the childhood happened on an international stage, 290 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: Like I like remember where I was when Reagan was 291 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: shot And I don't remember the Challenger as much, which 292 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: is weird because it was later. Yeah, I was only 293 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: like five when Reagan was shot. I don't have any 294 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: memory of it whatsoever. Right, you didn't care. I didn't know. 295 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I didn't know it was going. 296 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Five year old didn't care. I guess not. You're playing 297 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: with your g I Joe's that's right. But as the 298 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: article points out, one thing that united all boomers was TV. Yeah. Okay, 299 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: so if we're talking about how and we shouldn't we 300 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: should give credence or um props. I guess to the 301 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: guy who came up with the concept of generations. It 302 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: was a sociologist named Carl Mannheim, and he wrote The 303 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: Problem of Generations UM back in and basically said this 304 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: is a thing. Now I'm called my Mannheim good night, 305 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: And in it he says like I was saying before 306 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: that the generation is is held together by the shared 307 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: experience that they all go through together. Um, and up 308 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: until television, I mean, you had radio, you had newspaper, 309 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: you had a guy on horseback running around from town 310 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: to town shouting news or whatever. But when with the 311 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: invention of television, like now you have this really powerful 312 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: way for people to share the same thing at the 313 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: same time because they were getting the news in exactly 314 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the same way through television, where a generation really could 315 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: be solidified and defined into an actual group that had 316 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: a lot in common because of this event. Well yeah, 317 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: not just news, but just culturally, like the first generation 318 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: that sat around and watched TV shows, yeah, yeah, uh 319 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: together like that. In music were like the two biggest 320 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: things culturally. I mean you can I mean obviously you 321 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: can talk about the Frisbees and hula hoops and Barbie 322 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: dolls and stuff like that, but um, TV and music, 323 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: like the birth of rock and roll in the birth 324 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: of television are like the two hugest things for sure. Elvis, 325 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: the Beatles, those were very much in the wheelhouse of 326 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: the boomers. Yeah, so you've got those things, You've got 327 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: the what they were, Like you were saying, you've got 328 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: the fact that they can be shared easily by a 329 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: number of far flung people all over the country of 330 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: the same age. You got yourself a generation, buddy. Yeah. 331 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: And then the final little piece there is the skepticism 332 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: of that generation I think was a really big um 333 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: uniting factor. Like Boomers were the people who said, don't 334 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: trust anyone over thirty and the whole Nixon Watergate, the 335 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: Vietnam War being played out every night on TV. It 336 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: was like that led to like political revolution in this country. 337 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I think because of that skepticism. Yeah, but it's interesting. 338 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Rather than saying, like their generations of parents before them, well, 339 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: this is just the way they things are, I can't 340 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: do much about that. Um, this generation was among the 341 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: first to say, no, we re reject this way of 342 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: looking at things, and we seek to rebuild these institutions 343 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: in a way that more reflect how we think the 344 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: world should work. That's hug. That was a huge hallmark 345 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: of the baby boomer generation. Yeah, it's weird though when 346 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: you look at all this stuff, like they were the 347 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: most selfless in a lot of ways, but also the 348 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: most selfish generation in a lot of ways. Oh yeah. 349 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: At the whole time, the whole eighties yuppy thing. Yeah, 350 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: the me generation and the consumerism like was hand in 351 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: hand with the birth of feminism, or maybe not birth, 352 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: but at least rebirth of feminism and uh, the civil 353 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: rights movement. Like it's really interesting that all those things 354 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: like we're wrapped up in this one generation. Well similarly though, too, 355 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: they were also very political and then a political depending 356 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: on the decade. You know, like they were members of 357 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: organized student groups in the late sixties, and then by 358 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, a decade later, they were all like doing 359 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: coke and turning their back on politics while they were 360 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: like disco dancing. You know, you're like, hey, money, that's 361 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: actually kind of cool if you have it right. Yeah, 362 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it was like it was. They've gone through 363 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: huge ships and and sociologists have run after them, studying 364 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: them the whole time. Yeah, politically, it's sort of hard 365 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: to lump the baby boomer generation politically because and I 366 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: think this could probably said of most generations, but they're 367 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: really hard to pin down. So this is an old survey, 368 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: but in two thousand four, a RP didn't one that 369 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: um found out that baby boomers supported abortion rights and 370 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: gun control stem cell research, but they also uh supported 371 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: the death penalty and being more conservative, uh fiscally and 372 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: like sort of all over like all over the map politically. 373 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: What's what's funny is I saw like there's a sexual 374 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: sentence in this article. It's very difficult to pin boomers 375 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: down as being either liberal or conservative. I went huh 376 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: and tights into Google found immediately two fourteen gallop poll 377 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: has said no percent conservative liberally of of baby boomers. 378 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: Interesting self reported on a pole. So that's uh total. Yeah, 379 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: so the other don't learn't The other rest were like 380 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: if if you can remember the sixties, you weren't there. 381 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: And the the polster was like a sero, I didn't 382 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: ask you about the sixties. That's funny. Um. And we 383 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about consumerism. But that was also 384 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: a really big uniting factor was this was the first 385 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: generation that really went all in on saying it's okay 386 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: to spend money on yourself. You don't have to feel 387 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: bad about it. Uh. You know those previous generations were 388 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: of the depression era, right, you know, you don't just 389 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: do things like that. Don't throw that safety pin away. 390 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: You can fix that. It's not And he saved as 391 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: a penny earned, whereas the boomers were like a penny 392 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: saved is when you could be spending on something cool. 393 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: What's interesting is that it's it's come back again, like 394 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: that level of thrifty nous. We're in the we're in 395 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: the midst of right now. You think I didn't live 396 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: through the depression, true, but I yeah, compared to even 397 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years ago, pre prerecession mentality, Uh, what we're 398 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: in right now is definitely thrifty or interesting. Um yeah, 399 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: and um yeah, same thing though great depression, great recession 400 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: has a tendency to bring out the thrifty nous and people. Um. 401 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: We were talking about politics though too. So the first 402 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: baby boomer president was Bill Clinton, and then George W. 403 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Was the second baby boomer president. Huh uh. And then 404 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: it went to generation Jones with Obama, right, he was 405 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: the first Jones or but baby boomer. Yeah, but really 406 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: generation Jones really, so Billy and George were in the 407 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: leading edge. Yeah, they're both born in nine. Obama's generation Jones. 408 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: And then the next guy is uh, he was born 409 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen as well, So it went back to baby 410 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: boom after Obama. Interesting, and this well, I don't know 411 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna happen in twenty but you 412 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: would think that not even just the presidency, but in 413 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: in all of politics, that they will Obviously they will 414 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: be phased out with time. But I wonder if there 415 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: will be another president from that generation. I don't know, 416 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: although Joe Biden just said, don't count him out, and 417 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: he's he'll be eighty then. Really he's got a lot 418 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: of vim and vigor though he does. But boy, I 419 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: mean not to knock any eight year old listeners out there. Well, 420 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Bernie was eight one, I think he would have been 421 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: just fine. Yeah, that's true. Eighties the new sixty. Well, 422 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I hope. So all right, let's take a break and 423 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: um and maybe continue with this afterward. Huh, I think 424 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: we should. All right, we gotta finish. Let's do it. 425 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: So check. One of the things about a baby boom 426 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: is that, um, they're significant, and that it's a sudden 427 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: influx of a lot of kids being born at the 428 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: same time. And the reason it's significant is because previous 429 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: to that and then usually after that, there's fewer kids 430 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: being born. So it's a bulge in your population. Right, 431 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: So that means that that population is eventually going to 432 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: grow old, and as they grow old, they are going 433 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: to need more social services that you have reserved for 434 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: the elderly for the aged in your population, right yeah, 435 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: I mean not only that. The other side is is 436 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: the health care sector period, whether or not it's we're 437 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: talking like Medicare and social Security and stuff, but just 438 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: health care period in the private sector is like licking 439 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: their chops. Oh yeah, it's gonna be money to be made, 440 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: and as being made, it's going to be a big 441 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: boom for the health care sector. And it has been 442 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: booms for all these for several other sectors along the 443 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: way as they've aged and matured, and then now they're 444 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: looking to healthcare more and more. Um, it's it's not 445 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: gonna be just like a a sickness bonanza for the 446 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: health care industry because the one of the hallmarks of 447 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the baby boomer generation is they were one of the 448 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: first like really take care of themselves. Like I remember 449 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: when we were younger, Like a sixty five year old 450 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: was like an old person, like they might be on oxygen. 451 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: They were they were not in good shape by their 452 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: mid sixties, like like they're doing one handed push ups 453 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: in the street and stuff. Like that that was the 454 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: result of the baby boomers doing things like taking up jogging, um, 455 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: like eating vegetarian, like just generally taking better care of themselves, 456 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: having an emphasis on that. So they're not going to 457 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: just all start getting sick on mass or not. I'm sorry. 458 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: Previously the boomers they were like, well, what kind of 459 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: steak do you want tonight? It's like what cut of beef? 460 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: I want steak? Stuff with steak? Oh? Man, I just 461 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: listened to uh a Mark Mayren episode with David Spade 462 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: and he's talking about Farley. Uh. And he said that 463 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: Chris Farley would put a new full pat of butter 464 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: on every bite of steak that he ate. Oh, that 465 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: doesn't sound very tasty. Butter on steak is delicious. You 466 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: can but that much butter on each bite? That's too much? Yeah, 467 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: it's you might even say that's excessive. And Spade would 468 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: get on and be like, dude, you can't do that, 469 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: and he said Farley would look at him and go, 470 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: He's like, but each one needs its own hat. He's like. 471 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: You couldn't help but laugh because he was just so adorable. 472 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: What a loss. Oh, I'm just so sad. Man. He 473 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: talked a lot about it was really interesting. Yeah, to 474 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: check that one out. I love those two together. Yeah, 475 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: very sad um not to bring everything down, but you did. 476 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: But we were talking about them aging and and being healthier. Yeah, 477 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: they are aging in a much healthier manner than previous generations. 478 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: But it still will need healthcare and these social services 479 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: they are available specifically, like Medicare for healthcare and Social 480 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: Security for retirement pensions. So what's the are scared? They're 481 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: they're like no, no. I started to look into it, 482 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: but I got depressed. And but then I also saw 483 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: that like, no, we saw this coming. So that have 484 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: taken measures. Yeah, I saw in a couple of places 485 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: that it's the most predictable train wreck in American history. Okay, 486 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: well that's good and bad. So here's the thing. When 487 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: you're working, you're contributing to Social Security. It comes out 488 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: of your paycheck, right, that goes into a poorly managed 489 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: fund um that loses money very quickly. Right, So, um, 490 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: it was in grave danger of really running out. UH 491 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: in the not too distant future decade it's pass and 492 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: in UH there was a payroll tax increase that created 493 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: a reserve fund and means that it was a Ronald 494 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: Reagan tax increase. Right, So this reserve fund is still around. 495 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: I think there's like two point six trillion dollars in it, 496 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: but we're depleting it each year, and it's it makes 497 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: up the shortfall that that Social Security is lacking. Right, 498 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: So as we deplete it more and more, um, well, 499 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: we have less and less money to provide for people 500 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: down the road. And they think by four we'll just 501 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: be back to just social Security. The reserve fund will 502 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: be depleted and we'll be able to offer something like 503 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: seventy eight percent of the benefits that's coming to each person. 504 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: That's a big shortfall. In other words, Hey, what you 505 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: thought you were gonna get, You're gonna be short yes, exactly. 506 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: So people are like, what do we do? It turns 507 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: out there's a lot of very not painless but not 508 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: painful at all measures that you can pick from and 509 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: put together. I saw this great Forbes article on it. 510 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: They had like an infographic, so it really drove it home. 511 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: But it was like pick pick three of these, pick 512 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: two of these, pick five of these, pick ten of these, 513 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: and like they were just um increasingly smaller and smaller, 514 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: less noticeable measures that you could take and make up 515 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: a hundred a hundred and twenty hut of the shortfall 516 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: and social security just by moving money around. Yeah, or 517 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: just slightly increasing these taxes, slightly slashing benefits, slightly making 518 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: the age of retirement a little longer, a little older. Yeah. 519 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: That that altogether the average person wouldn't even notice, really, right. Um. 520 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm sure that we're going to be able 521 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: to figure it out in a way that's not going 522 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: to just ruin everything. The The thing that's keeping it 523 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: from really going downhill, though, is that the baby boomers 524 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: seem to have said, I can't retire. Right. So in 525 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, that great recession that happened, there 526 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: was a massive transfer of wealth out of the real 527 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: estate holdings and the stock portfolios of Americans. A lot 528 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: of them were baby boomers who are poised to retire. 529 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: They lost a lot of money. It went elsewhere, right, um. 530 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: And as a result, the baby boomers just said, well, 531 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: I have to go back to work, or well I 532 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: was going to retire, but I'm gonna have to keep 533 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: working for five more years. Um. And that mentality seems 534 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: to be keeping uh, social Security from being further strange. 535 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: They're just not They're not. They're working longer than they 536 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: normally would be expected to under Social Security. Yeah, it 537 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: says here the Concressional Budget Office, so that boomer households 538 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: don't have enough savings put away to retain their standard 539 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: of living upon retirement. So there's that. Uh. There are 540 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: also a large set of boomers that uh want to 541 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: stay active and keep working. Like I think it said 542 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: something like seventeen only seventeen percent are expected to fully 543 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: retire and be done working, and not all of them 544 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: are because they need the money. Um, it sort of 545 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: depends some. I mean, it's kind of sad. Some people 546 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: have been forced out of their jobs and at a 547 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: late stage in life or later stage in life have 548 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: to go back to like these hourly jobs, and other 549 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: people are choosing to They're like, you know what, I 550 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: want to go work in a wine shop and like, 551 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, twelve bucks an hour. It's and or like, um, 552 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: the first baby boomer chose to go teach high school 553 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: as her second career. Yeah, and it is now full 554 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: and on volunteerism. So um, yeah, there are there's it's it. 555 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: There's definitely both going on again. You can't paint that 556 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: generation with just one brush, right, Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm 557 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: so sorry for using that metaphor, Well, but you don't 558 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: like that, no pinting with the brush and no, why 559 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: do you hate art? We're that one guy? Yeah, man, 560 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: But there are plenty of people who just simply can't 561 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: afford to and that to me is just really really sad, 562 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: especially if the reason is that they're they're four one case, 563 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: just lost value or their house isn't worth what they 564 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: were planning on and that was their nusta. That is 565 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: really sad to me. It is. Um. We don't give 566 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: advice much, but I think millennials have are much better 567 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: about trying to think about their long term financial future 568 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: than our generation. Um because I didn't think about that 569 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: stuff till just far too late. But um taking it 570 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: very seriously now. But my advice to younger people is 571 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: just like just start early, dudes and do debts with 572 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: with small contributions even uh, talk to someone who knows 573 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: what they're doing, uh, like who knows what's gonna happen, Like, 574 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: don't depend on social security, like take care of yourself 575 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: yeah oh yeah, with safe investments. And you know, i'd 576 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, dude, I gotta covered. You know, my 577 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: brother's gonna open up some uh some pay lots. I'm 578 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: going all in on his parking lots. I think that 579 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: might work out. But try try some nice safe investments, 580 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: long term stuff. We'll diversify. Yeah, don't don't put all 581 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: your egs in one basket or in that pay lot 582 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: right exactly, which now just occurred to me. That was 583 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: the fargo. Uh that's what you want of them? Oh? 584 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: Is that what it was? Yeah, he wanted to buy 585 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: some parking lots. Yeah, real rich deal stand yeah, hand 586 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: like a good movie. So I have. I know you're 587 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: office stats these days, but I have some that I 588 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: feel are worth sharing. I'm just gonna go sit outside. 589 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: I got least from the Miley fool and they're depressing 590 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: soft of baby boomers expect to rely heavily on Social Security. 591 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: That's up from in two thousand fourteen. So more are 592 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: counting on that now. Yeah, I thought that would go down. 593 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: You know, things are not going well right now. Have 594 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: no retirement savings, wow, none anymore. They may have had 595 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: it before, they don't have it now. They never saved 596 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: whatever that's up from. Who said that in two thousand four. 597 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: So things are tanking for the baby boomers right now. 598 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: Expect to wait until seventy to retire. Stopped adding to 599 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: the retirement assets. In two thousand and sixteen, sixteen percent 600 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: had had taken premature withdrawals, were in debt with a 601 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: median dead of man. Yeah, this is not how we 602 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: should care for aged population. You know it's not. And 603 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 1: then do you couple the facts with like, that's great, 604 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna expect to rely heavily on Social Security. You're 605 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: going to be disappointed. But do you just go ahead 606 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: and report that to any guy who asks you with 607 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: the poll? Yeah? Yeah. The other big misconception is um 608 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: that the boomers work harder than uh millennials or gen xers. 609 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're Protestant work ethic. That yeah, And you 610 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: found this cool thing. This guy at Wayne State, Keith 611 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: zbl Uh. He examined seventy seven studies comprising a hundred 612 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 1: and five distinct measurements of work ethic and he basically said, 613 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: that's all just a bunch of junk that you read 614 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: in uh Salon or slate. He's like, if you look 615 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: at the numbers in the stats, there is no difference 616 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: in work ethic between the generations, which is interesting and 617 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: interesting feels right, you know, like it just feels like 618 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: just something that some editor wants to write about and 619 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: assigns it like that's a hot topic. Well, apparently that's 620 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: a big like human resource thing too. Is figuring out 621 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: how to structure a corporation two squeeze the most out 622 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: of each of the generations of working there. And this 623 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: guy's saying, like, don't even bother. They're they're all they 624 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: all work the same. Yeah, although they did say that, 625 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: um that baby boomers tend to thrive more in um well, 626 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: they subscribe to organizational structure more so hierarchies, whereas like 627 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: millennials in Generation X are more like, yeah, let's do 628 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: some more work from home. How about that? Or how 629 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: about a big, huge, cavernous office with no walls. We're 630 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: all the same. Can we get some butter first steak 631 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: around here? How about a standing desk? You know, I 632 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: because sitting is for chumps and Gen xers, you remember 633 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: that whole period. What do you mean here in our 634 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: own office? Yeah? Yeah, they're oh yeah, some people still 635 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: do that the weird Yeah, but I've also seen more 636 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: stools in here than oh, sitting stools. What else? Apparently 637 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: the Boomers are really the first big generation to um 638 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: robust le ops for cremation upon death and not have 639 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: this morose, open casket, traditional sad funeral and be more 640 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: like I want to die as I lived, with verve 641 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: and vigor, and let's have them. Let's have a party. Man, 642 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: scatter my ashes on the White House lawn. How much 643 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: does it cost to hire Gallagher? I wonder these days. 644 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: I'll bet he's still tours too. I'm sure he does. 645 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: I bet he's. I bet he's got his own place 646 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: in Branson. Uh, he's a little too hip for Branson, 647 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: right between Yakov and Ingelberg. Humper dink. Do you got 648 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: anything else? Um? I don't think so. Oh well, I 649 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: did think it was interesting them the big suburban boom 650 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: that came with the Millennials or with the I keep 651 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: saying that, I don't know why, like skipping Jenne altogether. Well, 652 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: that's the curse of our generation, the big suburban boom. Uh, 653 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: with the Boomers, they in the nineteen fifties, you know 654 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: all these it became cheaper basically to move outside the 655 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: city and in the tiny apartment and like buy an 656 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: actual home in the backyard. And that's when the suburbs 657 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: really boomed. And apparently it had a had quite a 658 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: deleterious effect on women. The women who moved to the suburbs. 659 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: It was they were sort of, in a weird way, 660 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: taught like, hey, go back to that thing where you 661 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to work, you want to just be 662 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: a mom out in the suburbs and raise your kids, 663 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing to do. Relutionary road. I know 664 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: you were talking about depressing movie, um, but apparently it 665 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: generated that dissatisfaction is what led to um, the women's 666 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: rights movement, Like that statisfaction turned it into feminism of 667 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: the sixties, right, because I mean there were plenty of 668 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: women's rights movements before, like with the suffrage and um, 669 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: well with suffrage. This this revived it big time just 670 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: living in the suburbs did it had? It had such 671 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: a crushing effect on women living in the suburbs, isolated 672 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: from the city, from other people, from social networks, and 673 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: living in this place where they were expected to just 674 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: basically raise kids and keep the houses clean. Yeah, it's 675 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: pretty neat how things like produce like opposite equal and 676 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: opposite reactions. You know. Yeah, This lady Betty fried In in 677 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: in the nine book The Feminine Mystique said that the 678 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: suburbs were burying women alive. And it's a very harsh 679 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: way to put it, but it certainly drives it home. 680 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I find that interesting. We need to 681 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: do a feminism when sometime. I do. Have one more 682 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: on baby boomers smoking um grass. Apparently they like it. 683 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: It was one of the three things you could give 684 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: for a ride, yeah, gas and one other one that's 685 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: still to me one of the all time great bumpers. 686 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: It's just so good. Uh. This man Benjamin Han, he's 687 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: a doctor uh Jerry, attrition and health services researcher at 688 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: the Center for Drug Use and Uh. He let a 689 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: study called the Demographic Trends among Older Cannabis Users in 690 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: the United States two thousand and six and two thousand thirteen. 691 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of worthy, but um. He evaluated close to 692 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: fifty tho adults fifty and older and found that seventy 693 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: one increase and marijuana used among adults age fifty and 694 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: older between twenty two thousand and six and two thousand thirteen, 695 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: Which makes sense. These hippies getting older, the and and 696 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: it says here that they didn't start like they just 697 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: kept smoking grass right the aged into another age group. Yeah, 698 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: they're not new users, but that fell off a lot 699 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: after sixty five, significantly lower prevalence of use um, but 700 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: still two and a half times higher or that eight 701 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: year period. So um, yeah, it's pretty interesting there. I've 702 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: seen the same thing with STDs as well. There's higher 703 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: rates of STDs among older populations than before. And again 704 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: it's because the baby boomers are aging into these new 705 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: age brackets. Yeah, bringing all of their vices with them. Yeah. 706 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: My friend, um, well I won't say any names, but 707 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: I have a friend and his wife has her family 708 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: in South Carolina has an island, just one of these 709 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: old coastal You know, it's not like an island like 710 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: you would think it is an island, but it's not 711 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 1: a big, huge thing, just a small area of land 712 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: on the in the on the waterways that get in 713 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: on the outer banks. Yeah. But I mean you got 714 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: to see the place like it's a it's land, but 715 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: it's surrounded by water and all. But when you think 716 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: like someone owns an island, you think of this big 717 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: thing with like houses everywhere, and like banks is like 718 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: just tons of the little island. So they own one 719 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 1: of them. And they have a little retreat there which 720 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: is basically, uh a cabin with like eight bunk beds 721 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: and then this huge just picnic area, like a covered 722 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: picnic area, And they have this retreat every year, a 723 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: couple of times a year. And I've been on it 724 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: and all these old South Carolina hippies are all these 725 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: kids parents, and they put us to shame. They all 726 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: get naked. They like getting naked. They it was too 727 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: cold to get naked, but they they like we were 728 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: in bed before they were. They were up again the 729 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: next morning before we were. And I remember like literally 730 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: waking up hungover and like walking out to the fire 731 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: and there was like seven sixty year olds with like 732 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: three joints being passed around between them. You know. Nine 733 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: in the morning. Did you leave? And everybody else was asleep, 734 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: And I was just like, what world have I stepped 735 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: into here? And these are the boomers? He said, he 736 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: was just like these cool old hippies. Yeah, Martin Mall, 737 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: still fighting the power, you know, Martin Mall. Yeah, it 738 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: was interesting. They're they're a fun group I gotta say, 739 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: still fighting the power on a private island in South 740 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: Carolina pretty much. Uh, well, we could probably sit here 741 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: and talk smack about baby boomers for a year or more. 742 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 1: I love them, Yeah, they're great. Um, but we're going 743 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: to stop right okay, So if you want to know 744 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: more about baby boomers, well stop baby boomer in a 745 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: grocery store and ask him about what it's like to 746 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: be a baby boomer. And since I said that, it's 747 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: time for listener mail, I'm gonna call this uh English 748 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: sayings of sorts. Hey, guys, love the show. Uh enjoy 749 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: the way you have a go at pronouncing things, and 750 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: you seem to be enjoyed being corrected on these, So 751 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: hold on tight. I was listening to the podcast on 752 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: police circuses and you mentioned mentioned Hertfordshire, England. A couple 753 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: of pointers. Hertfordshire is pronounced Hertfordshire. I admit it. It 754 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: isn't spelled hr t. But then that is just the 755 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: English language for you, the legendary oh that has many 756 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: sounds like tough cough. Though through it can be a 757 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: royal pain in the butt for everyone learning English. But 758 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: it must be a nightmare to learn English at a 759 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: later age. My free tip for you is that if 760 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 1: you ever have to discuss a place called Lochborough in Leicestershire, Leicestershire, 761 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: it's pronounced Luffborough in Leicestershire. Okay, got it. Cambridge is 762 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: not on hertford Shire, It's in Cambridgeshire. That's a bit 763 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: like saying Boston, New Hampshire close, but no cigar. So 764 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: I guess we messed that one up to No. No, 765 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: that guy got it wrong. I was saying it's spelled 766 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: like Hertfordshire, so I'm sure it's pronounced Cambridge. Oh he 767 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: wasn't listening. He didn't get the joke, gotcha. It was 768 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: a esoteric It was a little American. Anyway, Guys love 769 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm currently going through your back catalog, which 770 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: he spelled with a g u e uh. And it 771 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: wiles away the boring drive to work each day across 772 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: Cambridge Shure. Our differences are so vast, How will we 773 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: all ever get along? That's Ian Rose, Thanks Ian or 774 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: Ian Rose Rose. Uh. If you want to get in 775 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,479 Speaker 1: touch of this, like Ian or Iron did, you can 776 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: tweet to us at s Y s K podcast. 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