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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Figures, Adam Altlin here on Fox Sports Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: Adam Alson. I guess the Cleveland Browns are super Bowl

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Speaker 1: bound and they have the rookie of the Year, the MVP,

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Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL after making his pre

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Who had more pressure tonight, chadure from Dion Sanders or

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Speaker 3: us with Brebrey hyping us up so much and giving

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Speaker 3: us his opportunity to fill in here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: But I like it, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's been a long time coming, but we appreciate

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. Gonna have a lot of fun tonight or

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Speaker 1: this morning wherever you may be listening here on Fox

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to this.

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Speaker 3: You know how we like to start things off here

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Speaker 3: in our a block.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Come on pre Brix producer brebre here with us. Well,

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Speaker 3: Kevin brought it up there my Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Adam Alson and our one of our producer,

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Speaker 1: engineer head Han shows here at Fox Sports Radio, Big

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Speaker 1: Mike lind Guard the only two Carolina Panther fans that

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Speaker 1: I've ever met.

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Speaker 3: Well, and there are only two that you're ever gonna meet.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Here's the point.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to bury the lead.

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Speaker 3: I know the Panthers lost thirty to ten. I think

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Speaker 3: we have to talk about the Cleveland Browns, which is

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Speaker 3: weird to say. Oh, I thought we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young. So now all right, look keep you looked

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Speaker 3: pretty good on that last drive. He looked okay, he

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Speaker 3: made a nice pass. I know, he kind of turned

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Speaker 3: things around at the end of last season after he

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Speaker 3: was benched for Andy Dalton at one point, which is embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: You know what's embarrassing is the Raiders getting lit up

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Speaker 1: by Andy Dalton, by the way, after Bryce Young got benched.

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Speaker 3: So we all have our cross to bear. Pat Kevin, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you, all right. I think

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Speaker 3: this is the question of the hour. Is Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: elite at holding a clipboard? Because that's what he might

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Speaker 3: be doing now after what should Door Sanders just showed

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Speaker 3: us tonight for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders two touchdown passes, and I would say, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I'm rarely one to fall.

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Speaker 2: Victim to I perble, especially when it comes to.

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Speaker 1: The preseason, but pretty tight window throws, especially the first

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Speaker 2: I won't say that I was impressed.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this because I try not to overhype things

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the preseason, because look, Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: can come out and play terribly next week and throw

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Speaker 1: three interceptions against Philadelphia and now people are going to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's a giant bust. I think all you can say

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Speaker 1: Vanella defenses, obviously, but his his first run out there,

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Speaker 1: can say Shador Sanders can't make it in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing that I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment,

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Speaker 3: but I do wonder still how he slid to being

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Speaker 3: picked in the fifth round, Like I haven't seen a

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Speaker 3: slide that embarrassing since David Vassey was in Milwaukee, like

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Speaker 3: that was what did he say in the interview? What

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Speaker 3: NFL coaches to slide all the way to fifth? Earlier

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Speaker 3: today was posting the Glengarry Glenn Ross clip where he's like,

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Speaker 3: you see this watch, this watch is worth more than

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Speaker 3: your car, I mean, nine hundred and seventy thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: ALC.

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Speaker 3: Baldwin says, did he say something that ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: Well, the problem is you actually have to go to

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Speaker 1: the controversy jumps ups in so a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: really respect the draft combine process, didn't interview with a

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Speaker 1: He had a first round grade for a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who said, like, oh, basically,

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Speaker 1: while if you're gonna, you know, flip us off, then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do the exact same thing to you.

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Speaker 3: You talk about Geno Smith, now, well.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. So that's what happened. So

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Speaker 1: I do think there was a it was kind of

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Speaker 1: but we're not gonna have you come in here and

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Speaker 1: disrespect the process. You're not your father who allegedly, you know,

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Speaker 1: went to the draft combine and jumped out of a limo,

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Speaker 2: Out for anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because Deon Sanders was an undeniable top five pick

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Speaker 1: turned into a Hall of Famer, nobody said that about

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Speaker 1: off that vibe to NFL franchises, and that's why he

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Speaker 3: Well, he may not be his father, but tonight that

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Speaker 3: window of opportunity or the door that was open, he

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Speaker 3: That was impressive because you can say what you want

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Speaker 3: but if you look at the quality of throws, the

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Speaker 3: the touchdown passes. His best passes were in the highest

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I a'll call it clutch.

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Speaker 1: It's the first three quarters of a preseason game.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I call him that part.

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Speaker 3: Now, the pressure was on him just like us tonight,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, it certainly helps being with someone who

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Speaker 1: was a bit of a quarterback whisperer.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Granted, Deshaun Watson might disagree, but it has had his

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Speaker 1: Before we get deeper into this mark, do we have

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Speaker 1: the sound of Shador Sanders with NFL Network. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what Shador had to say about his performance tonight in

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Speaker 5: Now, of course, is about how many reps you get

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Speaker 5: and what reps you get.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you did something today to move

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Speaker 6: I honestly don't know, and I don't really care. You know,

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Speaker 6: whenever it's my turn and I just gotta take aletage

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Speaker 6: of it. I feel like, you know, today I did

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Speaker 6: I won't make the same mistakes twice, so does not

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Speaker 6: a micas throw. And you know, regardless of whatever the situation,

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Speaker 6: it is not up to me, and it is what

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Speaker 6: it is. I just got to, you know, accept whatever

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of Ben Mallers sports cliches

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Speaker 2: Humble young man.

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Speaker 1: There by the way, I sound like somebody who would

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Speaker 3: To me, maybe he learned his lesson, I hope. So

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Speaker 3: maybe he he's been humbled to some degree, but still

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Speaker 3: has the swag, the energy, the holding his wrist up

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Speaker 3: to say, perfect timing, whatever his gesture is. Everybody was

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Speaker 3: doing it tonight. Everybody was talking about it. He went

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Speaker 3: viral just off of his celebration that he's been doing

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Speaker 1: Well, you listen to some of the Twitter talks. Lebron

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Speaker 1: James is out of her tweet. Now, I told y'all

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Speaker 1: of paraphrasing, but that's essentially this is why we just

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Speaker 1: want to calm a little bit of this down. I'm

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Speaker 3: He want us to backpedal like his father Dion.

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Speaker 1: No, not necessarily. I just want us to just to

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Speaker 1: manage our expectations here a little bit. People think that

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders is like the second coming of Peyton Manny

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Speaker 1: or something. I'm just saying, the guy played well in

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Speaker 2: Let's calm it down just a little bit. Wait, let

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Speaker 2: that height out disrespect to you and Big Mike's Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Well, that did feel like hate there. Why they have

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Speaker 3: to catch us stray here? Just because he went against

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Speaker 3: mean they're gonna have just three wins or whatever this season.

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Speaker 3: Come on, the Panthers can respond, They can come back

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Speaker 2: You're right, maybe they can have four wins this year.

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Speaker 3: No, it's gonna be bad. It's gonna be real bad,

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Speaker 3: including uh, the worst of vision in football. Maybe, and

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Speaker 3: they still can't win it. But you mentioned the Lebron

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Speaker 3: Twitter saying something to the effect of, I don't care

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Speaker 3: that it was preseason. If he failed, you would have

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Speaker 3: been on his you know what. Huh, So give him

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Speaker 3: some bleeping credit.

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Speaker 2: He's right about that part. He's right to a degree.

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Speaker 3: But we all knew going into this that Shaduur was

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Speaker 3: in kind of a no win situation, as every young

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Speaker 3: play well, well you're supposed to. Are you good or not?

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Speaker 3: It's the preseason. You better dominate the Carolina Panthers. What

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Speaker 3: if he plays poorly, it's how could you play that

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Speaker 1: He can't win, it's lose, lose. Well, I think it

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Speaker 2: He wasn't even slated to start to start on Friday Night.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I want to know from the same people

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Speaker 3: You can say it's just the preseason, it's just the

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Speaker 1: What the Carolina Panthers beat the University of Georgia, We're

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Speaker 3: No, but there's no defenders out there that I recognized.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say for the people that say the

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Speaker 1: the Creaseason performances do matter. I just had a lot

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Speaker 3: We should know more than ever how much it matters

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Speaker 1: Which, by the way, hard knocks do it for you anymore.

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Speaker 3: We have so much access to access to everything, it's

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Speaker 3: It had to be Mark. It had to be marked.

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Speaker 3: Now Brevery Okay, come with me, if you want to live,

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Speaker 3: come with me, if you want to win, said Chador. Sanders,

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Speaker 2: Think from a lady in the crowd.

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Speaker 3: Pretty pretty clever.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna catch on the Browns fans be excited

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what they should. It's been a long time,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm be excited about your rookie quarterback going

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Speaker 3: When you say long, are you referring to them having

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I don't want to bring up Ernest Byner,

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you're talking about I'm actually having success and

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the closest they've ever come to doing anything.

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Speaker 3: Can I quiz you on something? Since Breed did play

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Speaker 3: the pop quiz hot shot? Sound out of not hot shot?

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Speaker 1: The quiz hot shot?

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Speaker 3: Oh we got it from speed here? Can you name You're.

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Speaker 2: Good at this? It depends.

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Speaker 3: It's really about how quickly you can name these quarterbacks?

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Speaker 3: All right, just give me ten to the forty Browns

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll give it to you. It's on this Clayist.

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. Yeah, Baker's doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Uh, there's some washed quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Not only was Derek Anderson a quarterback for the Browns,

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Speaker 2: Missed the posts. Yeah, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Talking about some Panthers.

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Speaker 7: At one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to give you that one, but

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Speaker 2: Okay, currently on the team.

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Speaker 3: Give me a Carolina Panther that was a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, I gave you Derek Anderson, So there was another one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Steve Berlin played for the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Let's think about who I used to like. Jake Delane, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Who else?

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Speaker 1: Brady Quinn of course, Brady Quinn or Guy Brady Quinn

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Speaker 2: That's what round fixed.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, do I still have more? How many did

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Speaker 4: Right? There? Is that six?

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Speaker 3: He only gets better looking by the year. It's true,

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Speaker 8: How more?

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Speaker 2: I think I gave?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 2: That's six?

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Speaker 3: That's enough?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you could go.

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Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor, case, Keenum, Luke McCowan, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Luke McCown of the mccount the Flying mccowns is

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a famous Browns fan who has a

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Speaker 3: It's getting so long it's going to turn into like

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's a factory of sadness, I believe well.

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Speaker 1: I mean not for tonight or this morning wherever you

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Speaker 3: Browns fans are now living their best life. Finally, this

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Speaker 2: This is the one week one of the preseason.

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Speaker 3: They've better hold on to this as long as they

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I'm optimistic about your door.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's not get too overly excited about it.

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Speaker 1: white corner?

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Speaker 2: I's wrong with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking shots at his messed up ACL after that

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Speaker 3: kick return in the preseason. You remember I do the

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Speaker 3: preseason matters. Guys could get ruined forever. Now regular stopbach over,

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Speaker 3: there's play a cornerback. But all right, Kevin, I know

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Speaker 3: coming up next, we gotta tell you something out. Why

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Speaker 3: did Roger Goodell call every other league commissioner the B word?

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Speaker 3: And I ain't talking about broke.

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Speaker 2: Because he's probably right.

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Speaker 1: It's Kevin figures Adam Alson on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: conversation last segment, Misha Door Sanders and everyone going guy

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Speaker 1: got over his performance.

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Speaker 3: Is somebody hating saying we're overreacting.

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily hating, but just ask you a question inquiring

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Speaker 1: minds from Abigail saying wasn't he playing against third and

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Speaker 1: four string players?

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Speaker 2: Now again?

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Speaker 1: As our resident Carolina Panther fan, Adam and no, just

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Speaker 1: respect to the Panthers, but it's gonna sound like it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like most people don't can tell a starting

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Speaker 1: player from a backup player in Carolina because over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years they've all played the same way,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't necessarily matter.

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Speaker 2: So you tell us starter.

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Speaker 3: From a backup to a practice squad guy. I really

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Speaker 3: can't look my understanding the at least the first two

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Speaker 3: series in the ball game, they had their first stringers

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 2: Now you can't make the argument.

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Speaker 3: Should or really thrived once the backup started coming in.

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Speaker 3: That's when he threw the touchdowns. But again, there were

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Speaker 3: two guys there on that first touchdown pass, two defenders

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Speaker 3: right near the ball, and he found a way.

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Speaker 2: Like that was a heck of a throw.

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Speaker 3: That was a statement type of performance as much as

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Speaker 3: you can have one in a preseason game.

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Speaker 2: We're not overreacting.

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Speaker 3: He could get destroyed by the Eagles next time out,

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Speaker 3: and you know what, that'd be fine.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that he's a total hack in a

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Speaker 1: bust and he can't make it in this league.

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Speaker 2: If that were to.

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Speaker 3: Happen, I would, I would, we'd we'd revert back to

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Speaker 3: Oh it was the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know what, probably that's true. Let

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Speaker 2: it play out.

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Speaker 3: Let Cleveland Browns fans have a little bit to celebrate,

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Speaker 3: right now, That's all I ask.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know, was their Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: What NFL hanks would say, you know, a Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers preseason game would get better ratings than an

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals game. Now, I don't know if that's necessarily

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Speaker 1: true or not, but in a general sense, I think

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Speaker 1: few could argue the NFL has about eight legs up

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Speaker 1: on pretty much any other professional sport in this country.

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Speaker 3: Well, and Roger Goodell knows.

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Speaker 4: It, Evening Commissioner.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the boss man. So.

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Speaker 1: An eternal email from earlier this week revealed Roger Goodell

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Speaker 1: saying that the NFL is not in competition with the

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Speaker 1: NBA and probably the Major League Baseball, any other professional

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Speaker 1: sport in this country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're talking about both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, their major competition is Apple and Google Giants slapping

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Speaker 1: the face to other pro sports.

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Speaker 2: Leagues in this country. It is. I think that's an

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Speaker 2: accurate statement.

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Speaker 1: Adam Auslin, who by the way, does Clippers pre half

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Speaker 1: and post for our local affiliate and five to seventy

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Speaker 1: LA sports.

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Speaker 3: Okay, full disclosure here, I think that's important it was

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Speaker 3: who I would say is an NBA honk NBA honk.

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Speaker 2: I am a fan.

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Speaker 3: The NBA is my favorite sport, and yet I have

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Speaker 3: to side with Roger Goodell. He's not lying. If you

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Speaker 3: look at the facts and the numbers of the case,

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Speaker 3: what are you saying is we've won the battle. I

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Speaker 3: guess these other sports leagues we're going after the biggest

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Speaker 3: companies in the world. Now, we're taking this beyond sports.

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Speaker 3: We're a compounding machine like the tech giants of Apple

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Speaker 3: and Google. And by the way, Apple is up like

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Speaker 3: five percent today.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, and you still have a high road

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Speaker 1: to clear when it comes to those like the NFL

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Speaker 1: is in the tens of billions in revenue Apple and

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Speaker 1: Google's and the hundreds of billions.

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Speaker 2: So rich as absolutely well.

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Speaker 3: There's always a bigger fish, as we learned in episode one,

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Speaker 3: and he has bigger fish to fry. He's not worried

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Speaker 3: about Major League Baseball. He's not worried about the end

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Now, it's different in how you evaluate it

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Speaker 3: versus Apple. In Google, Apple is evaluated three trillion dollars above.

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Speaker 3: That change changed them a little bit, a little bit,

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Speaker 3: little bit. Richards Lanister. Still Google's at two and a

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Speaker 3: half trillion.

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Speaker 2: The NFL.

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Speaker 3: The difference is, while you can buy stock in one

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Speaker 3: team and that's only once every ten years, with the

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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers, you're basically buying shares to be on

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Speaker 3: the board of directors. You're not getting a real stock

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Speaker 3: price where you're actively trading that. It's different. It's not

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Speaker 3: traditional stock and all the rest of the teams they're

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Speaker 3: privately owned companies, so it's not the same as adding

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Speaker 3: it up like you would. Okay, there's all these shares

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Speaker 3: out there of Apple, and each share is worth I

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Speaker 3: think like two hundred and twenty dollars as of today,

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Speaker 3: so therefore it's worth three trillion. It's a different way

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Speaker 3: to add and subtract, and there's some fuzzy math. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: Brie bye. But let's go to ratings. Like I know,

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Speaker 3: Fred Rogan's not in here with us, but ratings Rogan

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Speaker 3: would be proud of us.

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Speaker 2: Damn it for this.

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Speaker 3: The NFL is king in this way. Like the first round,

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Speaker 3: we don't even have to talk about games. The first

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Speaker 3: round of the NFL Draft. There you go, that averaged

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Speaker 3: thirteen point six million viewers. The first round of the

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Speaker 3: NBA Draft three point twenty seven, way.

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Speaker 2: A little more than I would have guessed.

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Speaker 3: Guests, I boost this pass, sure, but that's still almost

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Speaker 3: five times less than the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Didn't the NBA Finals get like an average of nine

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Speaker 1: point eight million viewers or something like that. Oh I

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Speaker 1: got that, so okay, So the draft beat out the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals. This is guys literally sitting around waiting to

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Speaker 1: hear their names be called.

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Speaker 3: The Game seven Game of Consequence between the Oklahoma City

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Speaker 3: Thunder and the Indiana Pacers that averaged sixteen point five

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Speaker 3: three million viewers.

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Speaker 2: It's really good for NBA standards, Actually it is.

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Speaker 3: But if you multiplied that, let's say every game in

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Speaker 3: that series ended up with sixteen million, and they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Game seven obviously had the most viewers on a Sunday,

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Speaker 3: and it's a win, uh winner lose the NBA Finals

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Speaker 3: winner go home. If you add up sixteen times seven,

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Speaker 3: that's one hundred and twenty eight million viewers. Well, the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl got more than that. Between the Kansas City

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Speaker 3: Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. The Super Bowl alone got

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty eight million viewers one game versus

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Speaker 3: seven games of the NBA Finals and they couldn't match that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just different.

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Speaker 3: Dodgers and Yankees was a ratings dream for Rob Manfred

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Speaker 3: and they still at best average sixteen million viewers per game.

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Speaker 3: It only went five, but even if it goes seven,

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Speaker 3: you're still cumulatively not better than the ratings of one

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Speaker 3: game from the Super Bowl last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, NFL is clearly the king of the mountaintop when

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Speaker 1: it comes to popularity in this when it comes to

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Speaker 1: major sports.

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Speaker 2: And I guess now the reach internationally.

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Speaker 1: We know they've had their international series probably dating back

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Speaker 1: to what I don't know, the the mid two thousands

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Speaker 1: when they started playing in Europe, and now they were

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Speaker 1: talking about you know, Brazil and Spain and all these

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Speaker 1: other different places trying to expand one thing, one place

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Speaker 1: that the NBA does have them beat.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Granted, it's built in because you have so many star

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Speaker 1: players from so many different countries in the world, and

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Speaker 1: I think the global expansion of the if basketball has

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Speaker 1: been popularized by the Olympics and international tournaments and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, you just don't have that football on that

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Speaker 1: sort of scale.

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Speaker 2: That is the.

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Speaker 3: Dirty little secret the NBA globally is doing better ratings wise,

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Speaker 3: while in the US the ratings are.

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Speaker 2: Following right, and I think I don't know if that

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Speaker 2: will ever change.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is certainly making some in rows internationally, so

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Speaker 1: maybe that's something if you're the NBA you want to

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Speaker 1: hang your head on. But I mean for people in

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Speaker 1: this country, no one, with all disrespect to no disrespect

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Speaker 1: I should say to Lithuania or whoever. People care about

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Speaker 1: what's happening here, not across the globe.

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Speaker 3: Now, I think the read on this is to me,

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Speaker 3: the reason the NFL became king is simple. Less is more. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: when you only have a seventeen game season, every game

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Speaker 3: is of magnitudes of an event.

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Speaker 2: Every game is an event.

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Speaker 3: Every game is almost like a Super Bowl versus eighty

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Speaker 3: two games in the NBA are one sixty two in

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. It's just built in that that game

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Speaker 3: means more because there's only seventeen of them.

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Speaker 1: Yet, which is why people it will never happen because

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Speaker 1: of revenue. I understand the sentiment that maybe Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball and the NBA should scale back their schedules and

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Speaker 1: play fewer games and make every game more important.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense on its surface.

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Speaker 1: There's just no way to be able to make up

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Speaker 1: the revenue, the lost gate revenue if you were to

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Speaker 1: do that. But I wouldn't necessarily mind that the expansion

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Speaker 1: of the Baseball playoffs. Thought that was one of the

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Speaker 1: worst ideas they could have had. Again, I know why

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Speaker 1: they did it. This is one of the great quotes

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Speaker 1: from the great Rick Neuheisel. He always says, the answer

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Speaker 1: is money, Now ask me the question. So that's just

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Speaker 1: universal across everything, inside and outside of points.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was that funny, Rick, but

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Speaker 3: I could laugh.

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Speaker 1: But but that's kind of that's that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: it is, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's about stakes people. Wont you have

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Speaker 3: to sell them on why this matters right now versus

670
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: in today's world all the other options you have correct

671
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: and we've never had more the gen zers. It's not

672
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: just YouTube, it's not just streaming, it's not just Instagram

673
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: now it's TikTok. Everything is about you got about thirty

674
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 3: seconds at most to make me care about this, or

675
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: else I'm flipping to something else right, or else I'm

676
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: doing something else. We've never had the optionality that we do,

677
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: which is why we always say on this show. We

678
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: better be entertaining or informative within thirty seconds every thirty seconds,

679
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: or else we're gonna lose people.

680
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: That's just the way it.

681
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: Has to be.

682
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're tuning out, so I understand. I'll to go

683
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: back to the Major League Baseball point that I was making.

684
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, you have the theory behind it is you

685
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: have more markets that are more interested later into the season,

686
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: so you'll you'll get more ratings and more interest based

687
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: on that. The problem is, there are so many teams

688
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: that are out of the race or that are kind

689
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: of teetering. Maybe they're in, maybe they're not. The trade

690
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: deadline has become so much less interesting now the last

691
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: couple of years.

692
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: True, and remember.

693
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Speaker 1: Back in I'm not saying we should go back in

694
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: the day where whoever had the best record in the

695
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: National League and had the best record in the American

696
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: League just automatically play off. But it might not be

697
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: the worst idea to just have the best two teams

698
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: go straight to the ALCS, NLCS or do it that way.

699
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: Just have more emphasis on the regular season and have

700
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: it mean a lot more as opposed to getting fourteen

701
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: teams in more than half the league makes it.

702
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: They've tried to make sure more teams are involved towards

703
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: the end of the season. Yeah, I understand that technically

704
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: they are, but I also think it waters down the product. Yeah,

705
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: you have these one game wild card playoff scenarios like

706
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: we I think they've changed since then, but for a

707
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: couple of years it was, hey, you've played one sixty two.

708
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: Now to have a coin flip of a game and

709
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: everything comes down to this. It was a cheap way

710
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: to manufacture a game seven instantly.

711
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think people like that or it was very.

712
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: Representative of what baseball is. You want a series at least.

713
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: So they have their own issues, but one hundred and

714
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: sixty two games, like every game in baseball makes up

715
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: just about half a percent of the entire season, Well,

716
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: in the NFL, every game is about six percent of

717
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: the season. It's math, it's arithmetic, like, this is the

718
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: stuff that they are looking at to figure out. We

719
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: got short attention spans out there, how do we make

720
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: sure you're fully invested into this event? This event tonight,

721
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: and the NFL wins. Because of the nature of the game,

722
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: you can't play. I know they'll try to get it

723
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: up to twenty games. Probably ten years from now, they'll

724
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: try to keep adding games because Rick Neweisel said is

725
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: about the money exactly. But there is a limit to this.

726
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: Whereas the NBA the physicality, you can play eighty two,

727
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: whereas baseball the lack of physicality, you can play one

728
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: sixty two. It's just built in and baked into the NFL,

729
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: making that drama heightened because there's so few games out there.

730
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Anthony gart I know about this when

731
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: I've been on the show with him, because he thinks

732
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: the NFL should just play every single night during the season.

733
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: I used to stay and you won that argument against me.

734
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want it, but just my

735
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: take is to your point the way we started this segment,

736
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: the NFL wins because it's a scarce product and you

737
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: can't see it every single night. You put it on

738
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: every I think this is what's hurt Major League Baseball

739
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: and the NBA.

740
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: The league pass as great as it is.

741
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: So that's someone who's a cast fan living in LA

742
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: can watch the Cavaliers like our friend Bob Schmidt. It's

743
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: different because now you can see everybody anytime. It's no

744
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: longer an event that standalone NBA on NBC, which we're

745
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna get back thankfully, which I love back in.

746
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: The day, A guy no a ego on the call.

747
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, like that's not an event anymore.

748
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: No one cares because I can see Gianna's played literally

749
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: every single night if I want to.

750
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

751
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Say if you do that with the NFL and break

752
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: up all these games, it don't have the Sunday window

753
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: with fifty eight games and the other I think people

754
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: are nobody's going to be able to sit down and

755
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: watch three games every single day of the week.

756
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen.

757
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is an oversaturation problem, but I don't think

758
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: it's so much that people don't like the game of

759
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: basketball or people don't like the game of baseball. It's

760
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: it's just one, one sixty two. Why do I care

761
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: about this game tonight? It's one of eighty two and

762
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: a half. The stars are out in the NBA tonight.

763
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: Why do I care about this? Where in the NFL,

764
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: it's drama. It matters every single game every single week.

765
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, there's something else that plays into this

766
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: factor of why the NFL is king and why they're

767
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: running circles around the rest of the league's Uh gambling.

768
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: Gambling is a pretty big deal now acknowledges actually exist.

769
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: They love to gamble on the NFL more so than

770
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: any other league. And if you just add up what

771
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: franchises are worth in the NFL versus the NBA versus

772
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball, they're making about or they're worth about

773
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: sixty billion more dollars than the NBA. All those franchises

774
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: added up, they're worth about eighty billion more dollars than

775
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. So I can't argue with Roger Goodell

776
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: and what he said, even though I'm an NBA guy

777
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: through and through.

778
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Golong live the.

779
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: NBA please, by by the way, the NBA is fine.

780
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: If you saw that TV contract that they just signed,

781
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: you're right, they'll be okay.

782
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 3: Even if it's on Amazon and people are gonna get

783
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: frustrated about that.

784
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here playing the world's smallest violin for

785
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: the NBA. I think they'll end up being okay when

786
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: it's all said and done.

787
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: Here, David Stern, you can stop rolling over.

788
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: It's like it's Kevin Figures, Adam alson here on Fox

789
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: Sports Saturday.

790
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Speaker 2: Coming up next.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's an interesting case. Someone who's bound to

792
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: be a first ballot Hall of Famer that also is

793
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: kind of a what if case in Major League Baseball.

794
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: We'll sort this out next here on Fox Sports Radio.

795
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I'll see what you guys are doing here, brim Mark,

796
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it and old to the

797
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: old FNA podcast. This is Kevin Figures Adam Olson here

798
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Saturday. Hit us up on x at

799
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: kfig one is where you can find me Adam at

800
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: follow Adam a next hour. What will be the resident

801
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: between Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones. We got that coming

802
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: up in the next hour of the show. Be sure

803
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00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: Also still to come, we got Petros papadagis college football

811
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: analysts and of course you know him with Matt money

812
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: Smith on a five to seventy LA sports on weekdays.

813
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: But speaking of local guys, I guess there's one we

814
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: can talk about because he's trying to go national, maybe

815
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: even international right now, because he's on the cusp of

816
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: a career milestone. That would be Mike Trout baseball. He

817
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: was still playing that's your team, Kevin Angels, I know

818
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: the angel still existed. You once said that he's like

819
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: the flower in a pot of dirt. Mike Trout is

820
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: the flower in Anaheim with a pot of dirt around him.

821
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Speaker 1: Did I misspeak? Has anything changed? As I said that

822
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: probably about eight years ago.

823
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, to be fair, Otani wasn't there when you

824
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: said that.

825
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I didn't be clear.

826
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: He's kind of an enigma because to me, he's an

827
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: all time great who's about to get to four.

828
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: Hundred home runs.

829
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: He has fulfilled if you look at the numbers through

830
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: about six thousand abs, he has fulfilled the promise of

831
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: being the next Mickey Mantle.

832
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: And that's with all the injury issues he's had over

833
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: the past five years.

834
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: By the way, and that's what leaves you wanting more.

835
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still a what if story, even though he's

836
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: going to be a Hall of Famer and the toughest

837
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame to get into is baseball, and you

838
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: can already.

839
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: Say he's gonna be in.

840
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: The hard part for me is you just hate seeing

841
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: great talents waste it with bad franchises. Like the first

842
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: thing that pops up to me. And depending on how

843
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: old or young you are, this name might go over

844
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: your head. But Ernie Banks, he's one of the greatest

845
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: players in the history of sports, in the history of baseball.

846
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: Let's play too, Mark, you're a Chicago in on, you're

847
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: a White Sox fan, but you know Ernie Banks. You

848
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: realize he played what twenty plus years for the Cubs,

849
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: won two MVP Awards, I think fourteen to fifteen time

850
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 1: all start go glove, did not play in a playoff game.

851
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: Did not play in a single playoff game. That's a

852
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: travesty that one of the great players in the history

853
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: of an entire sport would never actually have a chance.

854
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: Mike Trott at least got to the postseason once with

855
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: the Angels, And what do you do there, Kevin, I

856
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: think he likes he had like was like zero for

857
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: eight and or something like that against the Kansas City

858
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: Royals that won the World Series that year. Yeah, so

859
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: at least he had the opportunity to make the postseason.

860
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: But you see this all the time great players. Is

861
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: this I think this happens in baseball more than any

862
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: other sport, especially when you have great players who who

863
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: lock up and signed giant contracts with franchises and then

864
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: they hit the injury bug and so now all of

865
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, if you're Mike Trout and you're making thirty

866
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: eight million dollars a year and you're in decline, nobody's

867
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: going to trade for you.

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00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: Here's the problem Mike Trout and him declining the way

869
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: he has due to injuries. And it is mostly that

870
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: because he started getting injured at twenty Yeah, like he

871
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: has lost prime years. Twenty eight through thirty three is

872
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: where he has had the majority of these injuries going on.

873
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: It's been a multitude of them, most recently tris meniscus

874
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: twice the last couple of years. That takes away from

875
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: the athletic freak that he was. But to me, he's

876
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: also not just because he was an Anaheim And although

877
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: it does tie in, I do blame in baseball for

878
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: the lack of marketing with him. And I think this

879
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: was an all time botched fumble type play by Rob

880
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 3: manfred In not making him the face of baseball more well,

881
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: I know part of it's on Mike Trout.

882
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: Rob called Mike out for that look.

883
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: Rob said, you should be more active in trying to

884
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: be the face of baseball and to look. I will

885
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: say this in defense of Mike Trout, that's not necessarily

886
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: his job. Like he's very quiet, just wants to watch

887
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: the Weather Channel and play baseball, and that's all he

888
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: wants to do. And I don't begrudge him that the

889
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: idea of that, because if you want to say, you know, to.

890
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: Who much is given, much is required.

891
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't think in this particular situation, Mike's job is

892
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: to go out play baseball to the best of his abilities.

893
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: Would it be nice if he wanted to go out

894
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: and be the face and be out there and do

895
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of commercials and media tours.

896
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't think.

897
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: That he has the obligation to do that, but I

898
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: think it would be great if he did.

899
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: If Adam Silver was the Commissioner of Baseball, he would

900
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: have had Mike Trout traded.

901
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: To the Lakers exactly.

902
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: That's what would have happened. Here, he would have made

903
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: him go to a prime time blue blood franchise because

904
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: this is an all time missed opportunity in that I

905
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: don't know who was the face of baseball from twenty

906
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: ten to twenty twenty. I don't Kevin Like the best

907
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: guess is Kershaw. Before that, it's obviously Jeter a Rod.

908
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 3: There are guys to market Buster Posey, Migi Carbera, Jose

909
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: Al Tuve and cheating with the Houston Astros.

910
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Ryce Harper was on the back end of that. I

911
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: would put him in that conversation for sure.

912
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: He's kind of been better than Mike Trout the last

913
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: five years.

914
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh, it's kind of been, is not even a question impactful,

915
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: played in the postseason, has had huge hits in the postseason.

916
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: He was Mike Trout light when we started this off.

917
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: Between these two, absolutely he's passed them by now, oh easily.

918
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: But that's in a dieapment. I think more of the

919
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: organization now. First of all, you can't do anything about

920
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: the injuries that just happens to guys. Unfortunately, he got

921
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: banged up. But the reason that he hasn't gotten a

922
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: lot of exposures because the organization he plays for is

923
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: terrible and he has no control over that. And now

924
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: what he could have done is forced his hand and said,

925
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: trade me to my hometown Phillies. Well, I guess he's

926
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: a Jersey guy, but he grew up a Phillies fan.

927
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Trade me somewhere, But he doesn't. He's not done that.

928
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: He has a requested to trade. The idea is he's

929
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: kind of fat and happy.

930
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: He's cool.

931
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: He is as a fan of the sport. Has just

932
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: bumps me out because he's like a Paris paradox. He

933
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: was great, He's gonna be a Hall of Famer.

934
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: He's a tree falling in the forced. Nobody's there.

935
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: He also could have hit six hundred home runs, and

936
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's getting a five hundred now

937
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: and he's about to get to four hundred, I don't

938
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: know if he's getting a five with all the injuries

939
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: going on.

940
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: If he hangs on for another ten years, you know

941
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: why not.

942
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: The dream was he was gonna wipe away all the

943
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: steroid use. Didn't happen.

944
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: I will say.

945
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: The funny thing is he bulked up at one point

946
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: in time and that's when he kind of started getting

947
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: hurt in people are like well, I'm not. No one

948
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: actually asked questions about steroids. But maybe he was doing

949
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: just a little bit too much at one.

950
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: Point, a little too many protein drinks. He did it clean,

951
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: just protein broccoli.

952
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: That's what Relata believe.

953
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: It's Kevin Figures Adam Olson here on Fox Sports Saturday,

954
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: coming back and next hour with more NFL talk, Michael

955
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: Parsons versus the Cowboys.

956
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Saturday. He's k FIG.

958
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm out of May, yes, sir, follow out of ma

959
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Speaker 3: on X. He's at k FIG one if you want

960
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: to get to us there. At first, I went by

961
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: a little too fast for me, like too fast, too

962
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: fast for your brain, too furious, someone hit the nos.

963
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: I don't know the tenth movies coming out. Did you

964
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: see Vin Diesel acting all drunk at some promotion for it?

965
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: I lost count after number three, So there's ten of

966
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: them now.

967
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: I guess they're bringing back Paul Walker as a hologrammer.

968
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: So tell me they're not doing that.

969
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: They're gonna do it why because it's the final movie.

970
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't I'm sure I thought it was the final movie.

971
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: Seven movies.

972
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: Ago used his brother for his voice in Fast and

973
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: Furious seven, Rip Paul Walker.

974
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: He wasn't bout Wow in one of those movies, or

975
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: is it somebody else? Or was it one of the littles?

976
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: That was Tokyo Drill Drift, which was like a pre

977
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: quill or a side mission, and then Ben Diesel showed

978
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: up at the very end to tease out the next.

979
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: Lost me on that one. One of them.

980
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Ludacris is in almost almost all of them, isn't he

981
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: Luda Luda's I think Ludacris is since like what the

982
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: third or fourth movie has been a regular and they

983
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: just keep adding people.

984
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: He's in there.

985
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: The Rock is irregular, then they weren't the Rock and

986
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: Vin Diesel beefing about something for a while.

987
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: They had the cars in space. He also said in

988
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: the final movie they're gonna get back to street racing.

989
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: They won't be in the desert, they won't be in

990
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: the snow, they won't be in space, they won't be

991
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: in these exotic locations.

992
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: You're out of venues after a certain point. It's like

993
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park. They just had their fifteenth movie that came

994
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: out recently.

995
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: And that was one big pile of you know what.

996
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: That was called.

997
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: That was called dinos in space, right there had a

998
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: velociraptor fighting against the stegosaurus on the moon.

999
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: Is that what?

1000
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: No?

1001
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: Do do it fit the sci fi type of movie

1002
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: that you're referencing. There was that bad It was like

1003
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: Python versus cobra or whatever. Anyways, it's not Sharknato time.

1004
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: We'll get to some more geek news coming up later

1005
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: in the hour, by the way, because we do that

1006
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: here on the f and a takeover a Fox Sports

1007
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: Radio on a Fox Sports Saturday. But Kevin, I think

1008
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: we have to talk about a pretty big subject that

1009
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 3: you're kind of close to in.

1010
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Some ways to a certain degree of covered a lot

1011
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: of Cowboy games over the last decade or so, and

1012
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: there's always drama. One thing I'll say, the Cowboys are

1013
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: always relevant on the field, not so much, but everything

1014
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: else surrounding the franchise. And by the way, I think

1015
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: this is probably how Jerry Jones wants it, so obviously

1016
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: the big story this week Michael Parsons requesting a trade

1017
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: a contract impact with he and Jerry Jones, and this

1018
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: is obviously something that's been going on the entire off season,

1019
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones apparently approaching Michael Parsons directly about a contract negotiation,

1020
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: and Micah Parsons probably shouldn't have, but did engage, and

1021
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: they agreed to some sort of preliminary contract to what

1022
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones thought that it was all right, you've agreed

1023
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: to this, let's do.

1024
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: It handshake deal.

1025
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mike I said, we I necessarily agreed to

1026
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: the entire thing. You got to get my agent involved.

1027
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: And so now here's the impasse. The issue is Dak Prescott.

1028
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago before he signed his contract,

1029
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones tried this exact same thing. He went to

1030
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and says, hey, let's talk about this contract.

1031
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: And Dak said, no, thanks, that's my agent talk to him.

1032
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it works.

1033
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: That's kind of why NFL players have agents.

1034
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: If you want to do this legally and not just

1035
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: say hey, it's a handshake deal and then we're gonna

1036
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: bro hug and maybe be blood brothers on top of

1037
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: it that will sign seal and deliver this. No, the

1038
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: legality part of this is you have to talk to.

1039
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: Their age, all right, Jared, Now, Michah Parsons could he

1040
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: could pull the old Jared Weaver when he said, forget you,

1041
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Scott Boris, I'm signing this contract with the Angels regardless

1042
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: of what you want to say.

1043
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: That rarely ever happens.

1044
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: And so that's what Jerry Jones seemingly has been attempting

1045
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: to do with his star players these last couple of seasons.

1046
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott handled it the right way. Michael Parson's probably

1047
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: now regretting the fact that he handled it the way

1048
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: that he handled it, and now we're at an impass

1049
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: where Michael Parsons is requesting a trade. Dak Prescott earlier

1050
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: this week says that he's number eleven is a cowboy,

1051
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: He's not has no concern that whether or not he's

1052
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Jerry Jones outwardly said that basically, Michael

1053
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: Parsons is just posturing.

1054
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Can I lay out my theory on Jerry Jones and

1055
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: where he is at at the age of eighty two.

1056
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: The problem with Jerry Jones is he's gotten too old

1057
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: and too rich. He doesn't just have FH money, he

1058
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: has f ME money where he can afford to screw himself,

1059
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: and he thinks he can spend his way out of

1060
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: self created problems, like he no longer values the dollar

1061
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: like he used to when he first took over. The

1062
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: need to when you really had to weigh the pros

1063
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: and cons of every decision with the Dallas Cowboys because

1064
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 3: you make a wrong choice and it could implode the franchise.

1065
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: That's not happening anymore. He can make mistakes, he can

1066
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: afford to fail. He's built an empire. It's gotten too

1067
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: big for its own good at times, because, as you mentioned,

1068
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: it's everything but winning on the field, and his super

1069
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: Bowl at this point might just be winning press conferences,

1070
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: might just be being the most popular team regardless of

1071
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: how talented they are.

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00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Well, that's what it's been for the last what has

1073
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: been twenty six years, I think is what it is

1074
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: since they won last won that super Bowl.

1075
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety six.

1076
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they regardless, and a lot of fans not

1077
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: to get two Inside Baseball here complaining about why is

1078
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: it that these talking head shows always talk about Lebron

1079
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: James and the Dallas Cowboys and that's it and the Yankees.

1080
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: I guess if something important enough happens, because that's what

1081
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: people care about, that's what people click on, that's what

1082
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: people listen to, and Jerry.

1083
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Jones knows that.

1084
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: So Jerry Jones knows if we're not winning on the

1085
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: football field, we got to find a way to keep

1086
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys relevant in some way, shape and form. So

1087
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: the way that we can do this is by the

1088
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: way Jerry does this all the time. He did this

1089
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: with Ceedee Lamb. Wait until the last minute. Now it

1090
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: ends up driving up the price, and you might end

1091
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: up overpaying for a guy, even if he's a great player.

1092
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: You know, you end up waiting for a lot of

1093
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: other players to sign their extensions. But Jerry's like, I

1094
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: like these talking heads talking about the contract impass between

1095
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: me and Ceedee Lamb, or whether or not Dak Prescott's

1096
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: going to be playing on the franchise tag or be

1097
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: traded away or signed an extension. I truly do believe

1098
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: that Jerry Jones intentionally in his mind says the Cowboys

1099
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: are being talked about.

1100
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: That's what's most important for me right now. That's what

1101
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: keeps us relevant.

1102
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: The more dysfunctional they are, the more he gets in

1103
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: front of a microphone and a camcorder. Yep, there's an

1104
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: old song by the Counting Crows called mister Jones and

1105
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: it was off their first album. It was a great

1106
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: first album, Kevin.

1107
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Me and Missus Jones guy personally.

1108
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: But sorry, well, I think this song mister Jones, which

1109
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: I learned on guitar in like seventh grade, because I

1110
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: thought the song was great and it was about the

1111
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: lead singer basically his rock star side versus who he

1112
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: is as a person, and he was jealous of the

1113
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: rock star version of him. But there's a line in

1114
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: there in mister Jones that applies to mister Jerry Jones,

1115
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: and it goes like this, when I look at the television,

1116
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: I want to see me staring right back at me.

1117
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: I want to see me staring right back at me.

1118
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: That is Jerry Jones. When he looks at the television,

1119
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 3: he wants to see himself up there every news report.

1120
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: Oh he does.

1121
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: It's more cringe than my singing.

1122
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: What other what other owner holds court after every football

1123
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: game and the bowels of the arena? No other owner

1124
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: does that. Jerry Jones basically is not even the controlling

1125
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: GM anymore. He handed it off to Steve and his son.

1126
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, Jerry, after every single Cowboys game, winna lose

1127
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: holds court with the media.

1128
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: He's like Jay Jonah Jamison, Spider Man. He's that guy now,

1129
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: Like all he cares about is the stories, the pictures,

1130
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter if we won, if it bleeds,

1131
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: it leads type of mentality out there, never look, never

1132
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: let a crisis go to waste. Yeah, that's his philosophy.

1133
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1134
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, Michael Parsons is not getting traded

1135
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: this thing. This thing is gonna get resolved. He's gonna

1136
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: end up getting the contract that he wants. But then

1137
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: this goes back to the conversation the way we started

1138
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: this conversation. Jerry is doing this so that we can

1139
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: do what we're doing right now, so we can talk

1140
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: about him. Damn it, he can talk about his franchise. Yeah,

1141
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: he absolutely won.

1142
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: He's brilliant.

1143
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: Because if Mikeah Parsons is sign is signed, sealed and

1144
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: delivered already and has a contract, what are we talking about.

1145
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: I'll talking about the Eagles trying to repeat and trying

1146
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: to win the NFC East.

1147
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: Again.

1148
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: Here's why I find this, I mean I shouldn't find

1149
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: it baffling because Jerry Jones. Yes, here's why I find

1150
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 3: this most objectionable. You bring up CD, you bring up Dak.

1151
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: I think you can have a legit negotiation with Dak

1152
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: because you don't believe in him of being a top

1153
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: tier quarterback that can take you to the promised Land.

1154
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: I think that's fair, and so therefore you want to

1155
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: drive down the price. The way he's going about this

1156
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: with Michah Parsons, he's acting like Michaeh. Parsons is twenty

1157
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: nine going on thirty or something. He's twenty six. You're

1158
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 3: gonna get him for all his prime years. Still, this

1159
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: is the one guy you actually should pay for.

1160
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: And even if you overpay, it's like, it's not that

1161
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: you got.

1162
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: It's one of the old Michael Lombardi quotes, who is

1163
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: now the GM at the University of North Carolina with

1164
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, is you can't overpay for great. You can

1165
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: overpay for good, you can't overpay for great. He's one

1166
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers and game wreckers in the

1167
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: entire league. And now all of a sudden, guys like

1168
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: Max Crosby has been locked up. You know, Hendrickson is

1169
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: still having his issues with Cincinnati, but as these contracts

1170
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: come down, the pipeline Parsons is going to get more

1171
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: and more expensive, so he's only making it more difficult

1172
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: on himself. And what's what is going to Again, he

1173
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: has the capital to cover it, but there is a

1174
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: salary cap. So you're paying Deck, You're paying CD. Parsons

1175
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: is gonna end up being one of your highest paid

1176
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: players one way or another. Now, whether or not he's

1177
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: getting eighty three million dollars guaranteed or one hundred and

1178
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: three million dollars guaranteed, I'm just making up numbers arbitrarily. Obviously,

1179
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna have a giant impact on how you fill

1180
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: out the remainder of your roster here. So I think

1181
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: that's the part that he's losing sight on.

1182
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, in no way, shape or form here should

1183
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: be trusted. And I'll further that point because it turns

1184
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: out Jerry Jones can act a little bit and maybe

1185
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: doing some of that right now. I don't know if

1186
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: you caught this. I don't watch the show, but the

1187
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: clip made the rounds back in January when he appeared

1188
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: in an episode of a show called Landman, land Man.

1189
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: It's got John Hamm and Billy Bob Thornton. You know,

1190
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: don Draper's in there well and sling blades in there

1191
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: like he plays himself. Okay, you can say, well, he's

1192
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: just playing himself sometimes that's actually not easy to do.

1193
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: His delivery though, listen to how elite this is.

1194
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 7: I just know it's not gonna be this time. But

1195
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 7: you're gonna be sitting here sometime in the future, laying

1196
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 7: here sometime in the future, and this room's gonna be

1197
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 7: full of your business associates and the people you've worked

1198
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 7: with all your life, and more than likely your children

1199
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 7: and family gonna be there because they are your children

1200
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 7: and your family, but you could have them there because

1201
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 7: they're the people you spent your life with. He worked with,

1202
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 7: you fell down with, he got up with.

1203
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: God.

1204
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 7: Just Thanksgiving Christmas.

1205
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: Those tiers, those were real, Kevin.

1206
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: That could have been from a press conference when the

1207
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Eagles loss back in December from last year. As far

1208
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, Yeah, I had him to a t

1209
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: He was good.

1210
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 3: It's one of the better cameos. Actually, it actually makes

1211
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: me want to watch the show. But the other problem

1212
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: is you can't believe him because he's a good actor.

1213
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: The other reason is, speaking of shows, he's got a

1214
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: new Netflix documentary series. It's basically his own last dance.

1215
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 3: It is Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, titled America Team,

1216
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: The Gambler and His Cowboys. It is a ten part series.

1217
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure this Michael Parsons situation is not going to

1218
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: be covered at all in the documentary, by the.

1219
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 3: Way, regardless, it's good promotion for when it comes out. Hey,

1220
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: look what Jerry's doing right now in real time. Why

1221
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 3: don't I go back over his story and see where

1222
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: he came from and how this all started. Let's check

1223
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 3: out this Netflix documentary series here, honey.

1224
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know what we're not talking about.

1225
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: If this Michael Parson's thing is going on Jerry Jones,

1226
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: is Netflix show not a topic of conversation for us

1227
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: right now.

1228
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: I feel like we fell into the trap.

1229
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 4: Well we did.

1230
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 3: Admiral Akbar told us it was a trap, and we

1231
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: just went into the death star anyways, and Jerry Jones

1232
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: shot us down like we just promoted him the show

1233
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: the Cowboys this way he does.

1234
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: There you go, you went again, Jerry.

1235
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: Not where it matters in Super Bowls, but in the

1236
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: offseason and the chat, the chatter from the talking heads like.

1237
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: Us speaking of it's a trap. Our old friend Petros

1238
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: Papadakas is coming up next and he loves playing that

1239
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: SoundBite on the Petros and Money Show. College football analyst,

1240
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: the old pe Petros papadak is coming up next here

1241
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin Figures and Adam Assa.

1242
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1243
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,240
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1244
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1245
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,680
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1246
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,120
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1247
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: up on x at kfig one is where you can

1248
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1249
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,480
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1250
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1251
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,000
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1252
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1254
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1255
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1256
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1257
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: always pop up at the top of your screen. Coming

1258
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: up in about fifteen or twenty minutes, we'll get into

1259
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: a staple of Adam and I's old F and A podcast,

1260
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: the Geek News segment where Adam talks techie stuff, technology stuff,

1261
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: financial stuff, you name it. We're gonna have a lot

1262
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: of fun coming up in the next segment with geek News.

1263
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: But coming up right now. A friend of the show,

1264
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: The f and A podcast and a frequent contributor here

1265
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. You hear him every week on

1266
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, and he's back

1267
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: once again as a college football analyst for FS one

1268
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: and Fox.

1269
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: Let's get to it, Adam Alan Dragan.

1270
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: Did, thank you, Donny.

1271
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: Well, we haven't had had this guest on this late

1272
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: since a five seventy raw back in the day when

1273
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: he was calling us from West Virginia after a game

1274
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: where Gino Smith was putting up seventy points and eight

1275
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: touchdowns on Baylor. Of course, we know Gino might not

1276
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 3: be throwing that many touchdowns the entire season with the Raiders.

1277
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: What do you mean, Well, the more things change for some,

1278
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 3: the more they stayed the same for us. As our

1279
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: biggest advocate in our favorite college football analyst, Petrus Papadakis

1280
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: is back on the show in the late night hour

1281
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: as it is the FN A takeover of Fox Sports Radio. Pee,

1282
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: what's up?

1283
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: Hey?

1284
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 4: Good morning? I mean whatever, Hey, Hey, how's it going?

1285
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: How morning?

1286
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: Morning?

1287
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? And a good day to you, sir, Pee.

1288
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: Is it too soon or are the member berrys ripening yet?

1289
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: For your nostalgia for the PAC twelve and what was

1290
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: a conference that you played in and broadcasted with. Does

1291
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: it mean anything to you second year without it? Or

1292
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: you already moved on and just are evolving as college

1293
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: football does.

1294
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 4: Well.

1295
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 9: I think you do have to kind of adjust to change.

1296
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 9: I mean there's still people that are a little older

1297
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 9: than me, colleagues of mine, guys like Tim Brando, who

1298
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 9: are really sad about the Southwestern Conference going away and

1299
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 9: what that used to be. And the PAC twelve was

1300
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 9: damn near perfect as far as traveling.

1301
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: Partners and balance and all that.

1302
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 9: The only thing that wasn't perfect was the TV deal

1303
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 9: they did with themselves about twenty years ago. That really

1304
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 9: kind of blew up the whole thing. Not twenty years ago,

1305
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 9: maybe twelve fourteen years ago, and that was that, and

1306
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 9: it kind of slowly bled out. We talked about it

1307
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 9: a whole bunch over the years. Yeah, do I miss

1308
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 9: having Cal and Stanford play USC and UCLA every year

1309
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 9: and USC going to weird places like Washington State and

1310
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 9: Oregon State and having them lock the door behind him

1311
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 9: in Research Stadium in Corvallis, Martin Stadium in Pullman and

1312
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 9: have a battle ensue a lot of great games over

1313
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 9: the years. But everything must change. And college football has

1314
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 9: been a cash cow for a long time and now

1315
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 9: it's more like a cash cattle herd, and the cash

1316
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 9: has really kind of outpaced the character and the ability

1317
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 9: to control the sport. And we're sort of in a

1318
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 9: scramble where the offseason is just really really hard to

1319
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 9: process and kind of unsavory and not fun to digest.

1320
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 9: So it's exciting that the games are on and we

1321
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 9: have something to look forward to that's not you know,

1322
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 9: talking about the House of Representatives or the fact that

1323
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 9: Fox or ESPN and the SEC and the Big ten

1324
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 9: by proxy can't get along.

1325
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I promise myself, P I wouldn't ask you about,

1326
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, realignment and TV contracts and filling out the

1327
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: sixteen team playoff with what kind of format and try

1328
00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: to stick to football.

1329
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 9: So it is kind of funny because that's all we

1330
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 9: talk about.

1331
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 4: It is all off season is.

1332
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 9: And then when somebody starts asking me about players, you know,

1333
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 9: when the games get a couple weeks away, you're.

1334
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: Like, what, I don't know who?

1335
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, you know, and then you got to kind

1336
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 9: of start to put your feet in the ground and

1337
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 9: figure out who's actually who. We just came from the

1338
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 9: Fox Seminar, where the football Seminar, which was pretty pretty

1339
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 9: interesting this year actually, and I thought that overall their

1340
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 9: message just to their people calling games in college football

1341
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 9: was really good, which was, don't assume that anybody knows

1342
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 9: these players. They move around a lot. We have to

1343
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 9: reintroduce these people throughout the game and the transfer portal,

1344
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 9: the nil, all of these different things that we can

1345
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 9: complain about in the off season.

1346
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: Let's not do that during the games. Let's call the games.

1347
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 9: You know, we have a whole month and month and

1348
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 9: month season's process to complain about what's wrong with this,

1349
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 9: and here's the time to talk about what's right with

1350
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 9: it and enjoy the gathering and the pageantry that the

1351
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 9: people call, you know, all of those things the traditions

1352
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 9: of college football that make it special. So I'm grateful

1353
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 9: for that time of year to be here and to

1354
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 9: kind of start embracing that a little bit more.

1355
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: Well, the big question coming out of the Fox Seminar,

1356
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: now that I know you guys just had it, did

1357
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: you keep up the tradition of drawing caricatures of all

1358
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: of the players who were no did he show you

1359
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: the picture you drew Brady Quinn a couple of years ago.

1360
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 9: Just rip like to be a famous thing. I used

1361
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 9: to used to put him up on the overhead, but

1362
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 9: now it's become much. I mean, they did I know,

1363
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 9: you not even know if I'm allowed to say, but

1364
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 9: they did a thing for Jimmy Johnson because he's retired.

1365
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 9: And then he showed up and they you know, Terry

1366
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 9: Bradshaw and all those guys, they didn't know that, and

1367
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 9: they were all excited to see him. And then they

1368
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 9: brought out Moose Johnson to speak, who of course works there.

1369
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 9: But then they brought Michael Irvin, who doesn't work there,

1370
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 9: and he spoke. And then Troy Aikman, who doesn't work

1371
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 9: there anymore, showed up and spoke and that was impactful.

1372
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 9: And then Bill Burr came out and roasted him. The

1373
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 9: community and then Boys Boys to men came out and

1374
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 9: sang end of the Road in Motown, Philly.

1375
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh damn, yeah.

1376
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 9: I mean it was like really, I mean, it was

1377
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 9: like it was like crazy by the end of it.

1378
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 9: Everybody's highes were spinning, you know. And I've been to

1379
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 9: I've been to a lot of these and they always

1380
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 9: have you know, different special guests and people that are interesting,

1381
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 9: you know, from Roger Garrett and Goodell to Jerry Jones

1382
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 9: to Keegan Michael Peel. But this was this was beyond

1383
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 9: I mean, it was really something else.

1384
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: So wow.

1385
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, that that part of it was was a

1386
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 9: lot was a lot more produced than me drawing pictures

1387
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 9: of Brady Quinn will clown.

1388
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: As far as one question, just about money, Now we

1389
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: have nil and we know that the schools can now

1390
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: pay the players directly. They're not there yet, but they're

1391
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: getting well, they're getting there pretty soon here. Uh. As

1392
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: someone who played at a high college level at USC

1393
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: and play with a number of pros, I just wonder,

1394
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: from your perspective, because they're not professionals quite yet, is

1395
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: there any sort of resentment that will be held in

1396
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: the locker room from one guy to another or is

1397
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: it just an understood pecking order that I'm petro Well

1398
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: and your Carson Palmer, I know you should make more

1399
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: than me, or is it a little.

1400
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: Bit of you. I've still had to tell Carson to

1401
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 3: play in the huddle.

1402
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 9: That's true, true, every every college football team has its

1403
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 9: own pecking order, even in my time, right, but that

1404
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 9: was kind of the special thing about college football is

1405
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 9: that we're all wearing the same outfit to go work out,

1406
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 9: and we all get the same stipend check. And yes,

1407
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 9: of course you know who a bigger recruit is, and

1408
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 9: you know somebody who's gonna get maybe more special treatment

1409
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 9: or more leeway than perhaps somebody else. I mean, every

1410
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 9: situation is individual, even though it's a team. But this

1411
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 9: is different, and it is a big difference. I think

1412
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 9: in the NFL that's kind of one of the just

1413
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 9: starting points where yes, everybody knows that you make your

1414
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 9: money on the field and you're trying to get a

1415
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 9: second contract and you prove it on the field, But

1416
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 9: there's number next to everybody's name in the NFL and

1417
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 9: that goes into every decision that's made, whether that's good

1418
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 9: or bad.

1419
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: And bringing that into.

1420
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 9: College football is different, and it does change the dynamic,

1421
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 9: and I think that's why you see some of the

1422
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 9: coaches now that are thriving are guys that have come

1423
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 9: from places that are very small and very very nuanced

1424
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 9: places like you know, Mount Union and.

1425
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: Like that. You know Kaylin de Boor and.

1426
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 9: Lepold at Kansas and Climbing at Kansas State and Matt

1427
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 9: Campbell at Iowa State. You know, these guys come from

1428
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 9: small schools where they had to worry about, you know,

1429
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 9: the bus showing up and nutrition for the players and

1430
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 9: all of these different things just as the head coach.

1431
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 4: And it feels like the.

1432
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 9: More flashy college football gets as far as money being

1433
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 9: involved going to the players and all the TV money

1434
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 9: being made, it seems like the players respond better to

1435
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 9: these real nuts and bolts, no nonsense, kind of flat

1436
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 9: top kick me in the Jimmy college football coaching, not

1437
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 9: as flashy play caller types like Lincoln Niley, even though

1438
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 9: Sark's got Texas in a really good position. And we'll

1439
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 9: see what happens this year. But that part of it

1440
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 9: as it evolves, is interesting. But you're right, locker room dynamics,

1441
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 9: there's no doubt that they have changed. But I mean

1442
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 9: to think of college football locker rooms in my time

1443
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 9: as like a schoolhouse in the eighteen hundreds. It's not

1444
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 9: really fair, you know. It's not like we were all like,

1445
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 9: you know, pulling the same ropes either. I mean, there's

1446
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 9: always been a pecking order and there's always people that

1447
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 9: got paid under the table and got special treatment.

1448
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 3: Patros papade Guz is our guest here on the f

1449
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 3: and a takeover of Fox Sports Radio. If you mentioned

1450
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: boys to men, Bill Belichick's going from men to coaching

1451
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: boys here, how do.

1452
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: You think that's going to go?

1453
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: And can he relate to young people? I know he's

1454
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: dating one now, so it might work.

1455
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: Well.

1456
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 9: You know, we had an older coach in John Robinson

1457
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 9: and an old NFL coach, you know, and Paul Hackett too,

1458
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 9: and there's good and bad to that.

1459
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: I think sometimes an older coach will.

1460
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 9: Consider the players doing something because that's what they should do,

1461
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 9: when they're not really doing it, if you know what

1462
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 9: I mean, like telling guys, yeah, come in the gym's open,

1463
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 9: but not monitoring when they work out and if they're

1464
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 9: working out, you know that kind of stuff.

1465
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 4: You just expect people.

1466
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 9: To get their their their business done, expect them to

1467
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 9: go to class. That's not necessarily the case with everybody,

1468
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 9: but I've seen that where a pro coach tries to teach, treat, treat,

1469
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 9: and teach the college guys like they're more grown men,

1470
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 9: and they're not. Sometimes they need a guy to walk

1471
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 9: them to class. Sometimes they need a guy to walk

1472
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 9: them to class and stand outside the door. Now all

1473
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 9: the classes are online, so it's a little bit different.

1474
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 9: And I think the dynamics of the sport have changed

1475
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 9: so much that the college model with the numbers next

1476
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 9: to everybody's name, it really is more of a professional

1477
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 9: model anyway.

1478
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 4: So you're going to see a more professional style coach. Now.

1479
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 9: Bill Belichick's a dinosaur, right, I mean Bill Belichick is

1480
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 9: more of the coaching mold of Chuck Knox and Chuck

1481
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 9: Knowle and Marv Levy and these guys that I grew

1482
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 9: up watching coach pro football than the Lafleor's and the

1483
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 9: Sean mcvas of today. Right, I mean NFL coaches today

1484
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 9: are a little bit younger, looking, a little bit more

1485
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 9: ceo like vory pants, you know that kind of thing,

1486
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 9: and good looking hair. You know, they don't look like

1487
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 9: guys that show rocks in the Morning like Belichick. So

1488
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 9: Belichick's a throwback in any league, so to speak. But

1489
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 9: I think a more professional model is what we already

1490
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 9: have in college or evolving too a big time college

1491
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 9: football anyway. Case in point, you have, you know, most

1492
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 9: teams having a GM, you know, and that's that's not

1493
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 9: something we had. And in my day in college football,

1494
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 9: we might have had a recruiting coordinator or something like that.

1495
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: But as everybody moved to a professional model, I think.

1496
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 9: People will be comfortable with Bill Belichick acting like he

1497
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 9: did when he was a pro coach. Whether that's going

1498
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 9: to work at North Carolina, I don't know, but they

1499
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 9: had an ancient guy. I mean, he's younger than the

1500
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 9: guy they had before, so they're edded in the right direction.

1501
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: You mentioned player movement, and it's really going to have

1502
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: a huge change of dynamic of how these teams look

1503
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: from year to year. So I look at a team

1504
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: like Arizona State from last season, which was pick to

1505
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: finish last in the Big Twelve, when they ended up

1506
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: winning the conference and now I believe they're ranked eleventh

1507
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: in the Coach's Poll. You cover the Big ten a

1508
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 1: lot and for Fox and FS one, can you see

1509
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: a potential worse for first situation coming out of the

1510
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: Big Ten like that this year or another conference.

1511
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: Does anybody stick out to you? No, I mean does

1512
01:05:59,040 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: it to you?

1513
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 9: I mean, Washington with the quarterback who's exciting, wins more games.

1514
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 9: But I mean, are they going to beat Ohio State?

1515
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 9: Are they on Penn State's in a do or die year?

1516
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 9: They have the best looking team they've had in years.

1517
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 9: Last year they were within two or three plays inside

1518
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 9: the ten yard line of being able to beat Ohio State.

1519
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 4: So I mean Oregon is going to be really good.

1520
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Worster first is probably a little optimistic them up,

1521
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: but just someone who was you know, I'm thinking like

1522
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: a Michigan State with Jonathan Smith and ad.

1523
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 9: And Giles maybe better to take. Yeah, you want Aiden

1524
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 9: Chiles to take steps forward. I know he didn't have

1525
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 9: a good old line last year, but as the number

1526
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 9: one guy in the transfer portal last offseason, you can't

1527
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 9: say Chiles wasn't disappointing in his first year at Michigan State.

1528
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 4: You'd expect them to get better.

1529
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 9: They have a really good old line coach they but

1530
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 9: they did not have the old line last year. So

1531
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 9: you hope to see them get better for Jonathan Smith's sake.

1532
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 9: Arizona's coach is on a real hot seat. He's changed

1533
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 9: his offensive coordinator. I know that's Big twelve, and and

1534
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 9: and they have another chance with Noah Fafida. I mean,

1535
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 9: these just West Coast teams that we know Washington I

1536
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 9: mentioned with the quarterback situation, Demon Williams I believe is

1537
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 9: his name, little guy who can really move around Utah

1538
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 9: was disappointing last year. They have a transfer quarterback in

1539
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 9: the Big twelve, dam Peer who was really exciting and

1540
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 9: just a wild player, little quarterback from New Mexico last year.

1541
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 9: So it will be interesting to see how it all

1542
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 9: plays out, and and and who really meshes with their team.

1543
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 9: You mentioned you don't really know about the rosters. That's true.

1544
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 9: Uh you know you see players and you're like, hey,

1545
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 9: I remember that guy from this place, or I remember

1546
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 9: that guy from this place. So that part of it

1547
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 9: is intriguing. But the other part of it is you

1548
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 9: do have more veteran latent teams. You know, it's hard

1549
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 9: for these coaches to buy the patients of the fan

1550
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 9: base and bring freshmen along and really do it where

1551
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 9: you develop a class like they used to you've got.

1552
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: To be able to fill gaps in the portal.

1553
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 9: And sometimes guys do it with guys that are from

1554
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 9: big time schools that maybe weren't on the field second

1555
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 9: third string a lot from a place like Michigan or Georgia.

1556
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 9: Some people have had a lot, like Kenny Dillingham at

1557
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 9: Arizona State had a lot of success getting like the

1558
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 9: best player, captain, two way player from a Division two

1559
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 9: type of team or FBS FCS type of team and

1560
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 9: bringing them up to the FBS or even Division three.

1561
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 9: So that type of stuff is different ways to do it,

1562
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 9: and it's interesting to talk to the coaches and see

1563
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 9: how they're doing it. But it's a lot harder to

1564
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 9: get on the field as a young player unless you're

1565
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 9: Travis Hunter, and that makes it hard to kind of

1566
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 9: track teams and they're recruiting and how they're going to

1567
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 9: be year in and year out.

1568
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: P Has the bar ever been lower for USC? And

1569
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: is Lincoln Riley's still going to find a way to

1570
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: trip over it?

1571
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?

1572
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 9: You know, they have a really favorable schedule, but at

1573
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 9: the same time, you can't say that they haven't been

1574
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 9: anything but inconsistent since his first year, and his first

1575
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 9: year he couldn't get over the hump and beat Utah.

1576
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 4: They lost to Utah twice.

1577
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 9: So I think most people would agree that if Lincoln

1578
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 9: Riley didn't have such a huge buyout, he would have

1579
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 9: been fired. And the same might be true at the

1580
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 9: end of this year. So it's a real holding pattern

1581
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 9: at USC. And I mean USC is supposed to be

1582
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 9: in the Big ten, like Ohio State or like Michigan

1583
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 9: or like Penn State, and they're really far from that

1584
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 9: right now. And it's not to say they couldn't turn

1585
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 9: it around very quickly.

1586
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 4: I think the.

1587
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 9: City wakes up really fast for USC football when they

1588
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 9: have success. That being said, I haven't really seen it

1589
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 9: as a sustained thing since the Peace Carole era, and

1590
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 9: during the Pea Caroll era there wasn't the Rams or

1591
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 9: the Chargers in town, so there's more football competition for

1592
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 9: stories in town. Even though people want USC football to

1593
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 9: be good, it's been so long since they've been consistently good.

1594
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 9: I think you're right the bar has never been lower.

1595
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 9: When you're talking about after what I just said about

1596
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 9: freshman classes and how hard it is to bring them

1597
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 9: up in modern college football, when your best selling point

1598
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 9: is the freshman class coming in twenty twenty six, that's

1599
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 9: a red flag. I mean, those are only verbal commits.

1600
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 9: And even if they do come, how many of those

1601
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 9: guys are going to contribute in twenty twenty six And

1602
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 9: are they going to be that much better than they

1603
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 9: weren't in twenty twenty five to justify Lincoln Riley keeping

1604
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 9: his job? The answer is no. So I would say

1605
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 9: that reading the tea leaves Yeah. USC has never been

1606
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 9: never been more of an afterthought, which is amazing because

1607
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 9: they're making more money than ever, they're in the Big Ten,

1608
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 9: but they've hired the wrong coach again, and it's hard

1609
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 9: to see how they're going to find their way out

1610
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 9: of it without one hundred million dollar buyout.

1611
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 7: That's it.

1612
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Steve Sarkisian in Texas there ranking number

1613
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: one in the Coach's poll and a lot of hype.

1614
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: Are you believing the hype around arch Manning.

1615
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who say, if he was

1616
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: really that great, he would have beat out Quen you

1617
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: Weres last year by Trevor Lawrence beat out an incumbent

1618
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: when he was at Clemson.

1619
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,480
Speaker 2: Do you buy into that, what do you think, Well.

1620
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 9: I mean it was a guy with a lot of

1621
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 9: arm talent. Yeah, like really elite arm talent, which just

1622
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 9: goes to show that you really got to be mobile

1623
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 9: and you really have to be durable to get drafted.

1624
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 9: You know, they're really trying to find something wrong with you.

1625
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 9: And he's a cautionary tale. He fell in the draft.

1626
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 9: Should have taken somebody else's at il money. The arch

1627
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 9: Manning situation I see is a little bit like the

1628
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 9: Matt Barklay situation. Pete Carroll was upset when Mark Sanchez

1629
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 9: left early because he knew that he couldn't afford to

1630
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 9: start anybody else other than Matt Barkley because of the

1631
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 9: hype and the deal he made with the kid and

1632
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 9: his family coming out of high school.

1633
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 3: And he's got small hands. It's not gonna work.

1634
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1635
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that they made a deal coming out

1636
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 9: of high school. Sarkesian did address everybody at the at

1637
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 9: the seminar for Fox and said, you know, during the

1638
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 9: season or anything, he's never had a conversation with Archie.

1639
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 4: Or Cooper or Peyton or Eli.

1640
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 9: I mean, no one, you know, they let him coach

1641
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 9: the kid, and the kid is a good kid, and

1642
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 9: he's a teammate and there's a lot of expectation on him,

1643
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 9: but he he handles expectation and does his best. So

1644
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 9: as far as all that goes, you know, there's no

1645
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 9: There's not like off the field, like he's trying to

1646
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 9: sell a rap album, you.

1647
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 4: Know, like Schadour.

1648
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 9: There's rumors of him beating up guys in the locker

1649
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 9: room or anything like that.

1650
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 4: Seems like a great kid.

1651
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 9: Can he be the leader of this football team without

1652
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 9: ever having started? We've never seen him really lead the

1653
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 9: football team in that kind of way. They're going to

1654
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 9: start out at Ohio State, so we're going to find

1655
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 9: out early. I don't think the expectations on the young

1656
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,799
Speaker 9: man are fair, but they've been created as well by Texas,

1657
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 9: so they can't sit there and say it's unfair and

1658
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 9: then run him out there and sell the jersey and

1659
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 9: do all the things that they're already doing. I'm interested

1660
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 9: in seeing the young man play. I heard he's incredibly

1661
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 9: mature and a good leader, and look, I mean, so

1662
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 9: is Rayola. But it's not like he was great last year.

1663
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 9: You know, he was up and down. So I think

1664
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 9: there'll be some ups and downs, but if they lose

1665
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 9: their first game, I don't think that's the end of

1666
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 9: it for them either.

1667
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 3: Pee, last one for you, I mentioned the Raiders in

1668
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: the intro. You just brought up Pete Carroll. You think

1669
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: he'll have success implementing his culture of just win forever

1670
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: baby with the Las Vegas Raiders now plus with Chip

1671
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 3: Kelly's as OC.

1672
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1673
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 9: I mean, they didn't look like they could block very

1674
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 9: well yesterday. That was a preseason game. But Pete Carroll

1675
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 9: has won everywhere he's gone since he left the page,

1676
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 9: so it's hard to imagine that he wouldn't have some

1677
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,839
Speaker 9: modicum of success. I mean, he's like my dad's age,

1678
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 9: and being around my dad, who's inspirational at times but old,

1679
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 9: it's hard to imagine the energy that he's going to

1680
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 9: have to have to get through the whole year and

1681
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 9: all the different curve balls that are going to head

1682
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 9: his way. But I mean, as much as I've criticized

1683
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 9: Pete Carroll over the years and seen some of the

1684
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 9: underbelly of you know, the win Forever mentality, and the

1685
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 9: truth is, you don't have that much success as an

1686
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 9: NFL head coach without being very cutthroat, And that's something

1687
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 9: people don't talk about much when it comes to Pete,

1688
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 9: but it's very true. He's probably a lot more like

1689
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 9: Bill Belichick than anybody would be comfortable admitting. But it

1690
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 9: would be stupid to say to count him out and

1691
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 9: say it's passed him by.

1692
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 4: But their offensive line.

1693
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 9: Play did not look very good last night, so that

1694
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 9: could be a problem that even Pete Carroll could overcome.

1695
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 4: So we'll see. But no, I'm not.

1696
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 9: I mean, I know they have a lot to overcome

1697
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 9: within their division, but when it comes to Pete and

1698
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 9: having success, I counted them out in Seattle and.

1699
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 4: Looked like a fool. So I'm gonna stay silent.

1700
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,120
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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1706
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 4: No problem.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Peek Kevin figures, Adam Alson on Fox Sports Saturday.

1710
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: What's coming up at him?

1711
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: Well, I found out the real reason my parents would

1712
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 3: not let me play video games, and it's not because

1713
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 3: they're satanic or anything like that. That's coming up next

1714
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: in geek News. Here on Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin

1715
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 3: Figures and Adam Aulselin. Welcome back in is Fox Sports

1716
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: Saturday with Kevin Figures. I'm Adam Moslins. It's the FNA

1717
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Speaker 3: takeover of Fox Sports coming up next hour. We got

1718
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 3: Breeze three and some nfl FA for you. But first,

1719
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 3: what's an lore playing D and D to you want

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Speaker 3: to come cases, Let's go, guys.

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Speaker 10: These were all won't be choos that I've been chrying

1722
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 10: online with Babs.

1723
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: All just keep a power close off, right, Kennel.

1724
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 3: So, if you know the fn A show, you know

1725
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: we love talking video games, especially retro, old school, damn

1726
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 3: near vintage games. At this point, I think we're that

1727
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 3: old here.

1728
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: Kevin is Madden ninety two vintage?

1729
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 7: Now?

1730
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: I would say so that was the first Madden game,

1731
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 3: right where you have the ambulance running over players going

1732
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: on to the field.

1733
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: But it was a different era then.

1734
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: A more physical era of video games back in the nineties,

1735
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 3: they were tougher. Back then, they were also unforgiving. If

1736
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: you rented a game like Battle Toads or Silver Surfer,

1737
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: one of these impossible games to beat top Gun you

1738
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: can't land the plane didn't matter, you just had to

1739
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 3: keep playing it. You didn't have a lot of options

1740
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 3: back then. But for me, the difference now is this,

1741
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 3: in modern gaming, the real final boss compared to how

1742
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,959
Speaker 3: we had it as kids, is the DLC downloadable content

1743
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 3: at every single turn, Meaning when you buy a game

1744
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 3: for sixty bucks, that's not the end. They are going

1745
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 3: to nickel and dime you for all the downloads, for

1746
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 3: all the extra levels you can get and characters and

1747
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 3: weapon upgrades. It's a damn pyramid scheme mixed with a

1748
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 3: timeshare painted with snake oil to scam Kevin and I

1749
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: don't like it.

1750
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta build the best fortress in Fortnite or

1751
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: kids still playing Fortnite or is.

1752
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: That like so like two thousand and you know twenty one.

1753
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Minecraft still a thing.

1754
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 7: I know.

1755
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 3: There's a movie, uh for instance, call it Duty, Black Ops,

1756
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 3: Modern Warfare or whatever it's called.

1757
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: Eight of those two by the.

1758
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 3: Time you pay for everything of the game. It might

1759
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 3: run you three hundred dollars. I'm not kidding the SIMS

1760
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 3: four to have everything the complete game, that's like four grand.

1761
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: Four grand, I'm not kidding. I could buy fifty xboxes.

1762
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: I could buy one hundred consoles for that much. But

1763
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: here's the problem.

1764
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 3: As much as I want to be an old man

1765
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 3: shaking my fist at the cloud or at clouds, or

1766
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 3: saying get.

1767
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: Off my lawnch hopefully there's a power glove on that fist.

1768
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, the power glove for those who know what

1769
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:24,839
Speaker 3: that is. It's so bad now my parents could complain

1770
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: just as much back then in the nineties with how

1771
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 3: expensive games were.

1772
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: I saw this.

1773
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 3: Somebody posted it on a reddit a video game thing

1774
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 3: thirty one years ago. They posted this on a reddit

1775
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 3: subreddit August of nineteen ninety four. Somebody put into Nintendo

1776
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: Power a complaint about how high prices were. So it's

1777
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: like same as it ever was. We complained now. They

1778
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: were complaining then about games costing one hundred and twenty dollars,

1779
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 3: about games costing eighty or ninety dollars.

1780
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember my gas was fifty three cent?

1781
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 3: Do you remember when shaq Fu was ninety bucks.

1782
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: Do you let me put this in such an overrated game?

1783
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: By the way, but going.

1784
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 3: Awful game ninety dollars in the nineties, that's two hundred

1785
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 3: dollars today.

1786
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: My parents were right, Yeah they were.

1787
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we weren't rich as Atlantister, like that's expensive for

1788
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: a game. I didn't realize how much they actually were

1789
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: back in the nineties. I was completely off. If I'm

1790
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 3: spending two hundred on a game, I mean, Laura Croft

1791
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: ever be doing cartwheels for me, like I I better

1792
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 3: get the Metroid Suit. If I'm spending two hundred dollars,

1793
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 3: I better add thirty lives to my actual life with

1794
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: the Konami code with Contra.

1795
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: That's how it better. Two hundred dollars for a game.

1796
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: And that's that's before all the add onles that you

1797
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: have to you have to buy. Well nowadays, yes, I

1798
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: mean no.

1799
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't even play video games like

1800
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: that anymore. I don't even have time for it. Well,

1801
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: which I'm sad about.

1802
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 3: When I play the one game I love to play

1803
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,520
Speaker 3: a game that brought us together. Streets of Rage.

1804
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: Two grasshop on one of my favorites, and the.

1805
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: Best beat him up sixteen bit beat him up of

1806
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 3: all time, I'd.

1807
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 2: Say one of the all time greats.

1808
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: Well, one of our favorite games, obviously is the NFL,

1809
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of injury news going around the NFL

1810
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: is the first week of preseason, and we have guys

1811
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: going down left and right, and a couple of important figures,

1812
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: specifically in the city of Los Angeles, that are affecting

1813
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: a couple of playoff teams. We'll talk about that coming

1814
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: up next hour. It's Kevin Figures Adam Ausland right here

1815
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1816
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: It's right Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin Figures. That is me,

1817
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: Adam Austin.

1818
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 3: That is he.

1819
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: You can follow us on x at KFIG one and

1820
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: at follow Adam A coming up in about fifteen to

1821
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: twenty minutes from now. When do you know that your

1822
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: time has come? As a professional athlete, sometimes it's harder

1823
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: to gauge.

1824
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 3: There's a few guys I'd like to tell them that

1825
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 3: their time is all, would you?

1826
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1827
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 3: I can help them out with that decision. Can you

1828
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 3: You're washed? Bro, You're cooked, You're done?

1829
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 7: You know?

1830
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of being done, the preseason just started had the

1831
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game last week, had a couple of

1832
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: games on Thursday, few games on Friday, and obviously a

1833
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: full slate coming up tonight, and already a slew of injuries.

1834
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens lost a rookie for the.

1835
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: Season with the torn acl A couple of guys around

1836
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: camps have been have suffered some serious injuries, and camp

1837
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: literally just started.

1838
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 2: Some good news on that front.

1839
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: From the Falcons Lions game on Friday night, defensive back

1840
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: Maurice Norris, one doubt, tried to make a tackle suffered

1841
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: a neck injury. They actually postponed the game. Both teams

1842
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: actually snapped the ball and had used a running clock,

1843
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: basically wanted to run out the clock and not play anymore.

1844
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: Then the officials from the NFL front office called the

1845
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: stadium and said, let's just call the game completely. This

1846
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: is obviously way more important than a football game, let

1847
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: alone a preseason game. Thankfully, for Norris, the latest update

1848
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: he has feelings in all of his extremities. He's going

1849
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: to remain in hospital overnight, but he is in stable condition,

1850
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: so that definitely is a giant relief, but.

1851
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 3: Helping first speedy recovery of course, Matt Stafford out here

1852
01:21:59,400 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: in Los Ane.

1853
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 2: Speaking of injuries, Yeah, he's.

1854
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: Been banged up a little bit Kevin over the years. Now,

1855
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 3: typically he plays through injuries. He's a tough guy. Yes,

1856
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 3: he'll play through it. I don't know if he's gonna

1857
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 3: get a bacchiotomy, because it's not just a sore back

1858
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 3: that he's dealing with now, it's an aggravated disc that's

1859
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 3: a little bit more concerning for the Rams.

1860
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: Something he's been dealing with off and on for the

1861
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons. Had an epidural, which is never

1862
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: a good thing.

1863
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, should have never stopped.

1864
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1865
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Sean McVay said on for Friday.

1866
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: I believe Friday morning that if it was a regular

1867
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: season he'd be able to play, which I guess is great,

1868
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: But what condition is he actually in. I mean, they've

1869
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: had joint scrimmages with the Cowboys, who they're gonna end

1870
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: up playing tonight, but obviously he's not gonna play with them.

1871
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: He's going to do an individual workout at the RAMS

1872
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: facility later this afternoon, but obviously that's not as good

1873
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: as getting game reps or even practice reps against a

1874
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: different opponent. And if he's not even good enough to

1875
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: go in a scrimmage, I have some potential long term

1876
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: concerns about how healthy even if he is able to

1877
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: play in Week one at him, I mean, what does

1878
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: it take one hit, two hits to the wrong to

1879
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,919
Speaker 1: the wrong spot, and all of a sudden, Jimmy Garoppolos

1880
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: are starting quarterback.

1881
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: He was already there.

1882
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 3: Jimmy can at least distract the opposing team with his

1883
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 3: good looks. I think that's wearing off and not many

1884
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 3: good throws anymore. What are you saying he's losing his

1885
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 3: hair or something. But I'm not saying I'm not saying

1886
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: crows feet. I'm not saying he's not a good looking

1887
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: guy anymore.

1888
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: But I just feel like he's He's been around for

1889
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: a while now, it's kind of wearing off a little bit.

1890
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 3: Milk's gone bad. Yeah, look, they need Matt Stafford and

1891
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 3: last season, I gotta say the Rams have impressed me

1892
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 3: by the fact that they sold out a couple of

1893
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: years ago, rightfully so to win a Super Bowl. Trade

1894
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 3: them picks, f those picks, trade them all, and it

1895
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: paid off with a Super Bowl win. They've stayed competitive

1896
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 3: though since then, they haven't gotten back to the top

1897
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 3: of the mountain, but they've been competitive.

1898
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: They've made the playoffs a couple of times.

1899
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: When they they sent a letter out to their fan

1900
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: base saying, and not so many words, get ready for

1901
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: a rebuild, and it never really came. They missed the

1902
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: playoffs once and I think they've made the postseason ever since.

1903
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 3: Well, they give the Eagles a scare last season.

1904
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: Or more than a scare in the snow in Philadelphia,

1905
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: knocking on the door to beat what ended up being

1906
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: the eventual Super Bowl champions.

1907
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: That might have been the Super Bowl. Actually that was

1908
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: a closer game than what we got in the Super

1909
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 3: Bowl between the Eagles.

1910
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: And the Kansas City Chiefs, believe it or not.

1911
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Rams are not going Look that defense

1912
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: is young, especially that defensive line, young, exciting, Jared Versus Fisk,

1913
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: all those guys, They're only going to get better. You're

1914
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: bringing DeVante Adams to replace Cooper Cup, which I think

1915
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: is an upgrade Cooper Cup. I don't know how much

1916
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 1: he has left in the tank. To be honest with you,

1917
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: you still have Pooka Nakua, you still have Tyler Higbee,

1918
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: you got weapons on offense. You signed Kyraen Williams, who

1919
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: is I think one of the more underrated running backs

1920
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: in the entire league. All you were missing is really

1921
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: competence at the quarterback position, which obviously Matthew Stafford can

1922
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: give you. Matthew Stafford, I think raises their ceiling to

1923
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl contender. If he's not there, If

1924
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: Jimmy g is your quarterback, you're probably fighting for a

1925
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: wild card spotted best.

1926
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, ask Kyle Shanahan about that. Sean McVay is such

1927
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,719
Speaker 3: a good head coach that they could get by without

1928
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 3: him for some time. I feel like he would bring

1929
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 3: out the best in Garoppolo. But your ceiling, your peak

1930
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 3: with this team is Matt Stafford back under center. And

1931
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 3: it sounds like at some point he'll be there, because

1932
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,839
Speaker 3: if it was a regular season game, as you mentioned earlier,

1933
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 3: he would be So I'm not putting up a red

1934
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: flag or anything like that for Rams fans, but it's

1935
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 3: something to monitor. At least the division's worse now. I

1936
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 3: guess that helps them out.

1937
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess what hurts that is the fact that

1938
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of people believe the forty nine ers

1939
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: are going to take a step back this year. They're

1940
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: very top heavy. They have guys important guys with injury.

1941
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: Either are injured like Brandon Ayuk and John Lynch says

1942
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: he does not expect him to be ready for a

1943
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: Game one of the season. Christian McCaffrey, who's spectacular when

1944
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: he's healthy, but the last four years he hasn't been.

1945
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: So you lose one or two important guys on top

1946
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: of the guys you've already lost through free agency or trades.

1947
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: With Deebo Samuel, they're an injury or two away from

1948
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: being irrelevant. The problem is their schedule is it's so easy.

1949
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people think that the Rams are a

1950
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: better team than the forty nine ers, But based on

1951
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the fact that the forty nine ers schedule is so easy,

1952
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna win the division and the Rams are

1953
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna fight for a wild card spot.

1954
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 3: But as we know, there's five new teams that make

1955
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 3: the playoffs in the NFL insition every year, not for long.

1956
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 3: You can go from worse to first and win your division.

1957
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: It happens.

1958
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 3: There's a ton of turnover like that. So when you

1959
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 3: look at strength of schedule, it's like, oh, you kind

1960
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 3: of got to see how those teams are looking this season. Now,

1961
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 3: I'll say this about the forty nine ers. This may

1962
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 3: sound harsh. Nier Empire may not like this because they

1963
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: still have a young quarterback.

1964
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 4: They do.

1965
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 3: They still have one of the better coaches in the league,

1966
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 3: and Kyle Shanahan, I think, although he can't manage a

1967
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,839
Speaker 3: fourth quarter very well, and there's some mishaps with decision

1968
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 3: making going back to when he was the OC with Atlanta.

1969
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 3: Of course against the Patriots, Tom Brady, I feel like

1970
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 3: because of the salary cap and contracts and the guys

1971
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: that they have lost. Deebo no longer there, Christian McCaffrey

1972
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: getting long the tooth but no longer with the long runs.

1973
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 3: They may have already missed their window. Oh yeah, with

1974
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 3: this construction or this team that we know from the

1975
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 3: last five years, they made the Super Bowl twice, they

1976
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 3: lost to the same team twice within the last five

1977
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 3: seasons they got there, they couldn't get over the top.

1978
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: And I don't know if they're ever going to be

1979
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: better or as good as they were to pull it off.

1980
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 4: Now.

1981
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, their issue has been i'd say over the last

1982
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: three years, their drafts have been terrible and usually that's

1983
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: how you replenished your talent. When they went Shanahan and

1984
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: John Lynch first got there, it was all aboullbut it

1985
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: through the draft, and they had so many great young

1986
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: players on defense and an offense that they were able

1987
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to build this thing around. And they've not been able

1988
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: to sustain it. That's why the Eagles have been so good.

1989
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 1: The Eagles have won two super Bowls over the last

1990
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: decade with I mean there was some crossover on the roster,

1991
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: but almost completely different rosters, with Howie Roseman being the

1992
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: architecture of the entire thing, knowing how to cycle in

1993
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive lineman, finding the right place, continuing to

1994
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: draft the right guys, letting the right guys go when

1995
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: they get too expensive. There's an art to being able

1996
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to do that. Now you can only do that for

1997
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time before it catches up with you.

1998
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:11,799
Speaker 1: No one's gonna be able to draft, you know, superstar

1999
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: after superstar after superstar.

2000
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 9: Uh.

2001
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: But the forty nine ers, to your point, are falling off,

2002
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: and it's mainly because they have not been able to replenish.

2003
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: They're excellent players with great young talent behind them. Their

2004
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 1: drafts have just not been very good recently.

2005
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: You gotta have guys on cost controlled contracts. Those young

2006
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: players are so much cheaper. Of course, you have to

2007
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: hit with those picks because once you pay your quarterback,

2008
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 3: it makes things a lot tougher to get to the

2009
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 3: top of the mountain. I really think they might have

2010
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 3: missed their window, even though they're still young in some areas,

2011
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 3: including under center with Rock Perdy. It's not gonna matter.

2012
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're gonna have enough. Their defense

2013
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 3: was so good for so long, Like, I don't know

2014
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 3: if they can get back to that elite of a

2015
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 3: level on that side of football.

2016
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be the hard part.

2017
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 7: I do.

2018
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Look, I still think Kyle Shahan is one of the

2019
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: best coaches in the NFL. Game management issues aside. I

2020
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: do think brock Party in his system is spectacular with

2021
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: the right weapons around him.

2022
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 2: That's the question.

2023
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: Do you have the right requisite weapons to be able

2024
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: to put up those numbers on a consistent basis Now

2025
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: that guys are aging out, Deebo's gone, i UK is hurt,

2026
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's the big question. I don't know if

2027
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: this is going to be a full scale rebuild for them,

2028
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be probably a reload process. They might

2029
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: be mediocre for a couple of years, but it's gonna

2030
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: hinge on the fact of whether or not they can

2031
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: actually draft guys, draft impact players. And that's gonna be

2032
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 1: that's really difficult to do if you're not terrible. You know,

2033
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 1: if you're a middling team, that's gonna be picking in

2034
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: the twenties and you win eight nine games a year,

2035
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: you were in purgatory. At that point, you're a no

2036
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: man's land.

2037
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 3: See when you go back to the Rams in their

2038
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 3: own division, the Rams sold everything to win a Super.

2039
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,719
Speaker 2: Bowl, traded all those picture way Yes, and it's.

2040
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 3: Worth it because you have that equity, You have that

2041
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 3: goodwill with the fan base because you won a couple.

2042
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 2: Of years ago.

2043
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 3: So even if you're struggling for a few years, you

2044
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: can get by off of that. The forty nine Ers,

2045
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 3: they got so close, but so far twice to Patrick Mahomes,

2046
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 3: including losing in overtime in the second game. Like it

2047
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 3: is very painful for forty nine Ers fans because not

2048
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 3: only that they lost a close one to the Baltimore Ravens,

2049
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 3: the Niners were living a charmed life forever in the

2050
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 3: eighties and nineties where it felt like they were due

2051
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 3: to win in the big Game. Now it always feels

2052
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 3: like they're coming up short. So it's something to watch there.

2053
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 2: But you mentioned some of the injuries going on.

2054
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 3: Uh, Rashaun Slater speaking of teams being snake bit like,

2055
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 3: the Chargers fans are like, you think what's going on

2056
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: with the forty nine Ers is bad? Hold my beer,

2057
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Like they've never won the Super.

2058
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: Bowl, you know, Rashaun Slater is saying they got to

2059
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: put pen to paper, Like forty eight hours before that happened,

2060
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: a sign and thirteen million dollar contract, the richest guaranteed

2061
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: money for in the history of the sport for a

2062
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: left tackle, and I believe it was two days later

2063
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: that he suffers a Patel attendant injury. Is now out

2064
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: for the season. And now the Chargers went from having

2065
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: potentially the best tackle combination in the entire sport. You

2066
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: still have Jolt who it sounds like they're going to

2067
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 1: move from right tackle to left tackle. But now you're

2068
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: talking about the guy likes of Trey Pipkins or other

2069
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: guys who have mightily struggled. Justin Herbert was putting up

2070
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: big numbers his first couple of years, but he was

2071
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: running for his life behind a really bad offensive line,

2072
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: which is why the Chargers went out and drafted guys

2073
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: like Joealt and Rashaun Slater. Losing a right tackle of

2074
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: his caliber a perennial All Pro doesn't make a lot

2075
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: of big headlines for people who follow like that, the

2076
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: names of the big stars and the playmakers. That makes

2077
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: a huge difference, especially for a team that's built like

2078
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers with Greg Roman and Jim Harball, that want

2079
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: to run the football down your throat. That's gonna be

2080
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 1: exponentially more difficult now that you don't have one of

2081
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: the best offensive linemen in the league playing for you

2082
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: this year.

2083
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because Jim Harball wears khakis doesn't mean his

2084
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 3: teams aren't tough. They're very physical, and that's a debilitating

2085
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: loss for a team that plays a physical brand of

2086
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 3: football and for Chargers fans who have seen this, who

2087
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,839
Speaker 3: have been tortured over the years due to untimely injuries.

2088
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 3: This is one of the worst considering he just signed

2089
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: the contract and how badly they need him to protect

2090
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 3: their franchise quarterbacks.

2091
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 2: Like Charger fans have been.

2092
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 3: In a special place of sports hell for some time

2093
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 3: when it comes to injuries, when it comes to late

2094
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 3: game situations, and the biggest blown lead ever in a

2095
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 3: playoff situation a couple of years ago against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

2096
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 3: There is no escape from the sports hell they have

2097
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 3: been in. I honestly feel bad for them. I feel

2098
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 3: bad for our friend Matt Muney Smith of course, the

2099
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 3: voice of the Vaults. But this is devastating for the Chargers.

2100
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 3: It may not be a national story, it probably should

2101
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 3: be because this team is trying to win their first

2102
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 3: playoff game with Herbert, They're trying to get over the hump.

2103
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 3: And by the way, I got questions about him in

2104
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs now after his first two games like that

2105
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 3: is a bad start to his young career. You get

2106
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 3: a bad taste in your mouth like that. It can

2107
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 3: mold you as a young player. Where now he's got

2108
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 3: to get the monkey off of his back with how

2109
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 3: bad he has played in moments, of course in two

2110
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: playoff games, but to be without his left tackle on

2111
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 3: the best maybe in the game. This is just an

2112
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 3: unbelievable bout of misfortune for this franchise.

2113
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 1: So should I walk back my prediction that the Chargers

2114
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: were gonna unseat the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC

2115
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: West this year.

2116
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may want to walk that back, Kevin, just

2117
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 2: a little bit.

2118
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 3: Just look, Oh you don't want to do it.

2119
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I will. Oh, you like to

2120
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,799
Speaker 2: live dangerously a little bit. I do trust Jim Harball.

2121
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of the Charger backups, obviously,

2122
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: but I do love the toughness that he's instilled in

2123
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: that roster.

2124
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes it takes more than just a year. Last year

2125
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 2: was his first season.

2126
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert has had his playoff issues, you know obviously

2127
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 1: that big lead against Jacksonville a couple of years ago,

2128
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: and not all on him.

2129
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 3: It's not, but issues is kind. They should not have

2130
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 3: lost last season to the Houston Texans, Yes, especially the

2131
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 3: way they did.

2132
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: You're right, I can't disagree with that. Maybe, just maybe

2133
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: I have too much blind faith in Harball. Not to

2134
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: say that I don't have faith in Andy Reid, who

2135
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: you know has also done it multiple times over with

2136
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: multiple franchises. Uh, But I feel really good about the

2137
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: Chargers this year, even with this later injury.

2138
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 3: Kevin, I really do you gotta understand something. Chargers fans

2139
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 3: know this very well. The Chargers can't have nice things. Yeah,

2140
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 3: this is just the way it goes for them. They

2141
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 3: are one of the cursed franchises. Like the last great

2142
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 3: opportunity they had to get to the Super Bowl back

2143
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 3: in seven. You remember what happened. Philip Rivers tore his

2144
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 3: ACL Now he played through it in the playoffs admirably.

2145
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 3: But like when the worst, well, when the worst can happen,

2146
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 3: it typically happens to the Chargers at the wrong time.

2147
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it was that year or

2148
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: the year before that. They played the Patriots in San Diego.

2149
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, Marty and Philip Rivers through an interception, excuse me,

2150
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: Tom Brady through an interception.

2151
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: It was Marlon McCree was a defensive back.

2152
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this, even not being a Charger fan,

2153
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 1: because it was just the most charging moment ever.

2154
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 3: Was also the low lore, as Rob Parker would say,

2155
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 3: the that Tom Brady gets away with throwing this pick.

2156
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: Sure Brady throws the pick to Marlon McCree, who could

2157
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 1: have just gone down. The Chargers could have won the game.

2158
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: Troy Brown, who's playing cornerback, who was a star receiver

2159
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Because the Patriots had no dbs, they

2160
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: were so banged up in the secondary. They he was

2161
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: one of their and he was like thirty five or

2162
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: thirty six at the time. Put him in at a corner.

2163
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: He comes in from behind. I guess he was receiver

2164
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: at this point in time. He was on offense, and

2165
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: he came in and strips the ball out of Marlon

2166
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: mcree's hands, and the Patriots recover, force overtime. And of

2167
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: course we remember Ladanian Tomlinson crying in the middle of

2168
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: the field because the Patriots were dancing on the bolt

2169
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: and all that. That was probably the Charger's best chance

2170
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. They were doing the Sean

2171
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: Marion Dan lights out dance. They were the best team

2172
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: in the league.

2173
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 3: But what's the saying, if it wasn't for bad luck,

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Speaker 3: they'd have no luck at all. Pretty much, that's the

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Speaker 3: epitome of the Chargers, whether in San Diego or now

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Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. I agree with you, there's hope because

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh. I love his philosophy. I love him as

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Speaker 3: a head coach. I think he knows what it takes

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Speaker 3: to win. It's still about winning in the trenches. The

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01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 3: problem is they lost one of their best guys in

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Speaker 3: that area this week.

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm biased because I don't like the Chiefs,

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01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: though I do like God due to your Raiders. Other

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Speaker 1: than embarrass them, my entire existence, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: is that.

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Speaker 3: All the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Is

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Speaker 3: that what you're saying with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: To a certain degree, you know, the Chargers, even though

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01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: the Chargers have dominated the Raiders the last fifteen years too,

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01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: they're still kind of a little bit the little brother.

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Speaker 2: To the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, are you basically giving in saying, well,

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01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 3: the Raiders can't beat the Chiefs, but I can get

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Speaker 3: the Chargers to beat them.

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01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: The Chargers to do it, And I don't eat the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't need I don't need that smoke either.

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Speaker 1: Even though I think they're going to be really good

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Speaker 1: this year, and the fact that Sean Payton turned what

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Speaker 1: they had last year into what they were all the

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01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: optimism in the world for the different Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I think the AFC West is going to be very

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01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 2: interesting this year.

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01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 3: It's usually a gauntlet except for the Raiders.

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01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,799
Speaker 2: Why see why was that that wasn't necessary.

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Speaker 3: Took a shot the Panthers in the first segment of

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, do you think I forgot about that?

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Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that you would. I keep

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Speaker 1: receipts or the passers beat the Raiders last year. Can't

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01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,799
Speaker 1: you just own that CBS has got nothing on me? Okay,

2211
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm very bitter and I will find a way to.

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Speaker 2: Get a dig back at you.

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Speaker 3: So Kevin, like JJ Reddick, I am a basketball siko, okay.

2234
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 3: And today when we got to see his player and

2235
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 3: Luka Doncic show off his new body. Remember when Krane

2236
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 3: and Ninja Turtles was always talking about my body, where's

2237
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: my body?

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01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 2: He was waiting a brain. Yeah, he was just a brain,

2239
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 2: remember correctly.

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Speaker 3: But Shredder had to hook him up with that new

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01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: hot bod. Luka Dancis played a ball game today. He

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01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 3: did where his team Slovenia wasn't lost in the FOEBA.

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01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't think it was a cup. I think it

2244
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:42,719
Speaker 3: was preliminary pool group play for the FOEBA Euro Games

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01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 3: going on. Slovenia lost one O three to eighty nine

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Speaker 3: to Germany and from Zavadka who was out there, he

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01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 3: had eighteen. Luka Doncis though looking trimmor he did have

2248
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 3: nineteen points went three of six from the outside and

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01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 3: had five assists in just twenty four minutes. Much as

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Speaker 3: been made of his new body and how he looks,

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Speaker 3: I would not say it's an extreme makeover. This is

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01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 3: more like you got two weeks for a boy's trip

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01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 3: to Cabo and you got to cut down ten pounds

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Speaker 3: or so.

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Speaker 2: He just went low car for a few weeks, is

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Speaker 2: what you're saying, because he lost like thirty pounds. I

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01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't go that far. Okay, I'm not saying I don't

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01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 2: know if he had.

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01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 3: Thirty pounds to lose, but Nico Harrison, Nico Harrison makes

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Speaker 3: it seem like he had an entire basketball team to lose.

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01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 3: I think he believed and he bet against Luca ever

2262
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 3: getting in this level of shape. And if you look back,

2263
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 3: there was a decline in a specific area with Luka

2264
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 3: Doncic over the years. That kind of ties in to

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01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 3: the weight gain and him slowing down, which is what

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01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 3: Nico Harrison was concerned about. It drives to the basket.

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01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: Last season he averaged sixteen. The year before that, it

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01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 3: was eighteen. The year before that, it was twenty. The

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01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 3: year before that it was twenty two. There was a

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01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 3: trend going in the wrong direction for Luka Doncic as

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01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 3: the weight was being gained, he was slowing down and

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01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 3: game to the cup as much. So it was necessary,

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01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 3: and he did get to the basket a couple of

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01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 3: times in this ball game today in Foeba, But I

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01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 3: think some may have thought that he was headed towards

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01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 3: being washed at what twenty six, which shouldn't happen that

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01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 3: it's pretty amazing. He hasn't had a devastating injury. He's

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01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 3: had some cankel injuries or ankle injuries. He's had some

2279
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 3: little dings and knicks, but nothing major to where twenty

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01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 3: six you should be that concerned.

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Speaker 1: Nico Harrison was, well, you have the preliminary and I

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01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: can understand his outlook because if you see a trend

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01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 1: with someone and you're on the verge of giving them

2284
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: a three hundred plus million dollar contract and you don't

2285
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: believe that they're going to be in the best condition

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01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: to even finish out that deal healthy, does it not

2287
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 1: behoove you to get out ahead of it and get

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01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:55,560
Speaker 1: compensation for that player basically off compensation. Uh, probably not,

2289
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 1: But I will say this, if Kyrie Irving is healthy,

2290
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: that the Dallas Mavericks have as good of a stake

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01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: to anybody to get out of the Western Conference. That's

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01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: I believe that's fair. That's just if he's healthy at

2293
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: the end of the season. You could have anticipated that

2294
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: he would, you know, tear his acl.

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01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 3: If he's healthy, If Anthony Davis is healthy, if Cooper

2296
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 3: has a good rookie year.

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01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sure, there's a lot of ifs. But it

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01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 1: brings on the question of knowing when to cut bait.

2299
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: When does somebody in decline versus when are they just

2300
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: hitting a little bit of a drive spell. It's someone

2301
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: It's something that we're seeing baseball to a certain degree.

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Speaker 1: Mookie Betts is an example with the Dodgers having a

2303
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: very down year, the worst year offensively of his career.

2304
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 1: He lost a lot of weight with a serious illness

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01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 1: before the season started. He was never a big guy

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01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: to begin with, so I'm sure that has a lot

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01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,560
Speaker 1: to do with it. Bryce Harper's been battling injuries for

2308
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: the Phillies this year. His production level has not been

2309
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 1: what it has been in the past. Are those guys

2310
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: washed or are they just working through some injuries, or

2311
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, are they just having a bit of a

2312
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 1: down year and they'll bounce back next year.

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01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 3: The evidence that I look for in situations like this,

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01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 3: it's too fold with Mookie. He's not hitting for power

2315
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 3: or average. It's shocking. I mean, he's at two thirty

2316
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 3: six now. I know tonight because he knew we were

2317
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 3: going to do this story, he had to hit a

2318
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 3: home run and it was kind of the early game

2319
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 3: winner for the Dodgers against the Jays. That was big

2320
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 3: for him, and he's starting to turn things around. He's

2321
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 3: six for his last eleven at the plate. But I'm

2322
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 3: not convinced yet he's out of the woods. There's too

2323
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 3: much evidence this season in entire how many games is

2324
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 3: he in over one hundred games where he's looked like

2325
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 3: a shell of himself, And there could be reasons. You

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01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 3: mentioned the weight loss due to illness, which.

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01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 2: I don't think should be discounted.

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01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 3: No, it's fair, and maybe a little bit of World

2329
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 3: Series hangover from some guys. It hasn't just been him,

2330
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: but he's been the most severe case for the Dodgers.

2331
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 3: He's only thirty two, so you look at age, you

2332
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 3: look at what injuries they have had, and then the

2333
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,640
Speaker 3: type of drop off they've had. If it was just

2334
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 3: power with Mookie, I wouldn't be as concerned. I would say,

2335
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 3: this is the natural aging process. But he shouldn't be

2336
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 3: hitting six right now at the age of thirty two.

2337
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 3: He's too good for that.

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01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree, uh, but I remember vividly David Ortiz

2340
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: age thirty three. I think he was eleven years into

2341
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 1: his baseball career. Career lows in doubles, hits home runs,

2342
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 1: and he hit two thirty eight. The following years after that,

2343
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 1: he was He wasn't right back to where he was

2344
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: hitting over three hundred and forty eight fifty home runs,

2345
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 1: but he was pretty damn close to it, and he

2346
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: had a down year. Yeah, sometimes that happens, I will

2347
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 1: say specifically in a sport like Major League baseball.

2348
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, sometimes it just ain't your year. Derek Jeter.

2349
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Now he bounced back, but I remember vividly as of

2350
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 1: like July fifteenth or sixteenth of one season, he was

2351
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: batting like one sixty one and people were like, he's washed.

2352
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 1: He was like nine years into his career. He ended

2353
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: up hitting over three hundred for that season. He ended

2354
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 1: up finding it again.

2355
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 2: It happens.

2356
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Uniquely in baseball, where a guy can fall off, a

2357
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: guy can have a year where they struggle, and then

2358
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: they can find it again and they can bounce back.

2359
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, reports of guys demise have been greatly exaggerated over

2360
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,560
Speaker 3: the years where they find it again. And I do

2361
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 3: think Mooki, if I had to guess, is not done yet.

2362
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 3: And by not done, I mean he can still get

2363
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 3: back to playing near an MVP level. I just think

2364
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 3: with his age and everything surrounding his particular unique circumstances

2365
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 3: this season, I could say it's an outlier. I could

2366
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 3: say there's still time in this regular season for him

2367
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 3: to show us something. Remember before with Moki, it was

2368
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 3: never worrying about him in the regular season.

2369
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 2: He looked washed in the playoffs, but then he.

2370
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 3: Turned things around last season against what the San Diego

2371
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 3: Padres of THESS.

2372
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 2: In the playoffs for the Dodgers last.

2373
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 3: Year, he found his stroke. Then, how much has changed

2374
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 3: over a year, Like, I don't think his athleticism, his explosiveness,

2375
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 3: his quick twitchness, that type two B muscle fiber stuff,

2376
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 3: it shouldn't go by the wayside.

2377
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 1: At the age of thirty twenty pounds in a course

2378
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: of ten days at the start of the season might

2379
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: have something to do with it, all, right, But one thing,

2380
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: gaynor Man, Well, this doesn't happen is football. When guys

2381
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: fall off, they typically fall off of a cliff.

2382
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2383
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: So this is something I've been saying here on Fox

2384
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Sports Radio for a while. And we get to Breeze

2385
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: three here in a seconds. We want to make sure

2386
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 1: we hit that before we get out of here.

2387
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 9: Uh.

2388
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 1: But Derek Henry is a perfect example. I've been saying, like,

2389
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 1: you gotta get out. This guy's gonna fall off a cliff.

2390
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. I've seen it happen to Eddie George,

2391
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen to Ladanian Tomlinson, and I've looked

2392
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: like Boo boo a.

2393
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 2: Fool for the last four years.

2394
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 3: Is this the sunk cost fallacy? Right at this point,

2395
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 3: like you just have to keep saying it because it

2396
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 3: will happen eventually.

2397
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. Now he might be forty eight still

2398
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: running for twelve hundred yards. I don't know, but he's

2399
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 1: gonna happen eventually.

2400
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 2: I swear you.

2401
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 3: Hurt wrong just early, That's all it is. I was

2402
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 3: kind of there with you with Derek Henry, a guy

2403
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 3: that big. We saw it with Brandon Jacobs. Sure, yeah,

2404
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 3: it fell off. Eventually they lose that verse, they lose

2405
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 3: that spark, that juice out there.

2406
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what he is going on. That's just

2407
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: a different level with King Henry. Yeah, some guys are

2408
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:54,719
Speaker 1: just You're just different level of athletes.

2409
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 7: You know.

2410
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Kurz Martin played for a long time and had a

2411
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: thousand yards rushing I feel like every single year of

2412
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: his career, which is the reason why he made it

2413
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. It's rare in football that

2414
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: you have a guy lose it and then find it again.

2415
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 1: The only one that I could think of was Brett Farr.

2416
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: Brett Farr left the Packers, went to the Jets, was

2417
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 1: not good. Went to the Vikings was phenomenal until they

2418
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: had that playoff game against the Saints, the bounty gate

2419
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,560
Speaker 1: and all that stuff and this isn't Detroit man, that

2420
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: whole thing, and then his following season, his second year

2421
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: of the Vikings was awful. So he went from looking

2422
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 1: terrible to where he should have stayed retired when it

2423
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: came to the Jets, and then turned into basically an

2424
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: MVP again when he played for the Minnesota Vikings when

2425
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: he was rejuvenated.

2426
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 3: That's kind of a wild up and down situation. See,

2427
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 3: because he was I thought he was done. Didn't he

2428
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 3: have as many picks as touchdowns with the Jets?

2429
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, like thirty three touchdowns and thirty three interceptions or something.

2430
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 3: There was the Jets Surger stuff. That's for a different show.

2431
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 2: There was a lot going on.

2432
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 3: There was a lot going on with Brett Farva at

2433
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 3: that time. But then he got his revenge against the

2434
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:57,560
Speaker 3: Packers the next year, just to blow it in the

2435
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 3: NFC Championship game.

2436
01:46:58,920 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 2: Exactly.

2437
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to one of the staples of

2438
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: this time slot that we have every single Saturday morning.

2439
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 2: It's Breeze three, not one, but three.

2440
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 4: It's entertainment. It's good. It's Breeze three.

2441
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 2: Hright, bre what do we got?

2442
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 11: Welcome to you guys' first Breeze three. So exciting.

2443
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 2: I love this.

2444
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 1: I'll listen to you and Chris do this every single

2445
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 1: Friday nights, last Saturday morning. It's a it's a highlight

2446
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: for me to be able to be a part of

2447
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: it today.

2448
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 11: Yes, absolutely so.

2449
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 12: I'm obviously we're super excited to see Travis Hunter later

2450
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 12: today playing offense and defense.

2451
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 11: He said this with Kay Adams on Up and Adams yesterday.

2452
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 11: Unicorn is the unicorn, traps Unicorn Hunter.

2453
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 10: Let me get it right, the Unicorn, the unicorn, okay,

2454
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 10: TM trademark that everybody.

2455
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 12: Alrighty, So basically now he's obviously known as the Unicorn.

2456
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 12: I kind of thought for zingis was the unicorn at

2457
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 12: one point? Yeah, but I think this is a better

2458
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 12: way for a better like nickname.

2459
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 11: For Travis Hunter.

2460
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 12: So I was like, let's talk about like athletes like

2461
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 12: best nicknames, like the teams athletes like awesome, like memorable nicknames,

2462
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,719
Speaker 12: because I don't think we'll ever not think of Travis

2463
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 12: Hunter as Unicorn, because he literally is a unicorn. So

2464
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 12: my first one, I'm a Suns fan, as everyone knows,

2465
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 12: So so I went Sean Marion the Matrix one.

2466
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Just with that the Matrix not bad.

2467
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 3: I like what you did to the Lakers and six

2468
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 3: he got that big rebound and then found Tim Thomas.

2469
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 11: Never forget that game six? Yeah great, and they came

2470
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 11: back three to one series.

2471
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 3: A lot of people forget about that here in Los Angeles.

2472
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 4: Of course.

2473
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 11: Obviously the second one.

2474
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 12: I went with the death lineup of the Warriors consisting

2475
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 12: of like Clay Thompson, Steph Curry, I can't think of

2476
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:54,759
Speaker 12: everybody else, Durant and then who was the five.

2477
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 3: Was Sean Livingston one of them?

2478
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 11: Andrea Goood No no, no, no, no, Giggy was in there.

2479
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, so that was like the death the death

2480
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 12: lineup Steph, Clay Draymond, AI well the other Ai KG

2481
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 12: and Harrison Barnes, North Carolina.

2482
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 11: Harrison Barnes. That was the death lineup. That was the original, well,

2483
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 11: it was the.

2484
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 3: Death lineup because Harrison Barnes went like oh yeah or

2485
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 3: something like that in game seven for them for.

2486
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 2: That loss against the Cavaliers, as anybody he killed him.

2487
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 11: That was really depressing.

2488
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 12: And then I went Sandman for Marianna Rivera, just with

2489
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 12: that entrance music and the cutter picture about like putting

2490
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 12: batters to sleep.

2491
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 11: I just thought that was super cool.

2492
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: Slice and off handles for twenty years, right.

2493
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:34,839
Speaker 11: So it's memorable.

2494
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 3: So we're talking nicknames here.

2495
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 11: Nicknames.

2496
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 12: Yeah, So Travis Hunter was the Unicorn. I went with

2497
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 12: like three nicknames. And then now I'll throw it to Mark.

2498
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 2: What do you got Mark?

2499
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 10: So anybody ever heard of a guy named Charles Theodore Davis.

2500
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:53,759
Speaker 2: That's Chili Davis. I was speaking about. Oh, so there's Chilia.

2501
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 2: So there's Chili Davis.

2502
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 10: My next win is a guy named a Decki Matsui.

2503
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 13: Ah Godzilla Zilla love it, love that name just because

2504
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 13: of the movies and all that kind of start row

2505
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 13: Dan and whatever. But he was just girls the moth

2506
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 13: for guy marks to be honest. Okay, got it, I'm

2507
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 13: the ro Dan person. But anyway, and then my next

2508
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 13: one is Frank Thomas, the Big Hurt, the Big Hurt.

2509
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 2: Love Frank Thomas. So those are my three.

2510
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:20,600
Speaker 10: But then my honorable mentions are Carlton Fisk, Pudge and

2511
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 10: Tom Seaver, Tom Terrific.

2512
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.

2513
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 1: Now I guess lest I be a prisoner of the moment.

2514
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: It's really hard to beat the big Dumper. It's really

2515
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: really hard to beat Kyle Riley who went home run

2516
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 1: number forty three. By the way, on Friday Night, Guys

2517
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: come out of nowhere now, people will say, and I

2518
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: hope I'm not stealing one from you. When it comes

2519
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 1: to Charles Barkley, the round mound of rebound, how's this

2520
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: for a deep cut, the round Mound of Touchdown. Jared

2521
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,640
Speaker 1: Lorenzen was a quarterback for the University of Kentucky. He

2522
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 1: weighed like two hundred and sixty pounds, was nimble as ever.

2523
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 1: Actually won of Super Bowl as Eli Mining's backup when

2524
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: they beat the Patriots the second time. The late great

2525
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Jared Lorenzen round Mound of touch Down, also nicknamed the

2526
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 1: Hefty Lefty. So that's one of my favorites of all time.

2527
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 1: There was Jared Lorenzo.

2528
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

2529
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 3: He was one of those guys's like, wait, this guy

2530
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: plays a professional sport, Like what's going on?

2531
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely is it? Hackey Sage?

2532
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: And then I gotta go with my guy, the Nigeria Nightmare,

2533
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 1: Christiannakoye still untackleable when it comes to playing in Techno

2534
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: Bowl back in the day.

2535
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 2: That's strong. That's strong, all right. I gotta go with.

2536
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:30,959
Speaker 3: Jason Williams playing for the Kings and the Memphis Grizzlies

2537
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 3: and won a championship in six with the Heat with

2538
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat. White Chocolate's too good.

2539
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't know if he was going to pass

2540
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: the ball to in your chest or throw it into

2541
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 1: the eighteenth throw.

2542
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it didn't go your way. But when he

2543
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 3: did that elbow pass in what the Futures game? That

2544
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 3: was very memorable. Who was that too, Raye la France

2545
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 3: or something like that. Lamar Oden was the one who

2546
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 3: ended up I guess follying him at the end of

2547
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 3: the play.

2548
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: White Chocolate was special to me. One of the great

2549
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: black room rants too. Of course, you ain't doing nothing, homeboy,

2550
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: go touch me. Homeboy wasn't back off of me. We

2551
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 1: used to have that sound in the system somewhere, and

2552
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to it.

2553
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 2: He wiped it.

2554
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 3: Here's a nickname that the player who's named after this.

2555
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't even like it, but he's Great Durantula for

2556
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 3: some reason. He doesn't like that, and he doesn't like

2557
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 3: slim Reaper. Those are badass nicknames.

2558
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,759
Speaker 2: I'd say he think those are corny, but he's corny,

2559
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:21,600
Speaker 2: so that you know.

2560
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 3: His other nickname is Cupcake. They do call him, at

2561
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 3: least in Oklahoma City, because he left them for a

2562
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 3: team that beat him up three to one, and the

2563
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors. I think this is very traditional and obvious,

2564
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 3: but it's too good not to bring up because we

2565
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 3: actually think this is the guy's name at this point,

2566
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 3: Magic Johnson.

2567
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 2: Correct, it's Irving Johnson. You know that is his actual name.

2568
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 3: His nickname stuck. So well, we just call him magic

2569
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 3: and that's all you need.

2570
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 2: That is true. That was all my honorable mentions list there.

2571
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: Mark was magic. I mean, how do you beat that?

2572
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to go with more of a deep cut,

2573
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 3: but sometimes I have to go mainstream.

2574
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 4: No, I get it, I get it.

2575
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: I also think you mentioned Ai Brie, the original Ai

2576
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson the answer was always one of my favorites too.

2577
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 3: The truth with Paul Parkers is not bad as well.

2578
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,639
Speaker 11: I was surprised that what he said black Mamba with Kobe.

2579
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 2: I was never a big fan of the black mamble Monker.

2580
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 11: To be with me, no, I wanted to do it,

2581
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 11: but I just I don't want to do it. It's

2582
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 11: the Lakers, you.

2583
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: Know, I will say ago when I just popped him

2584
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 1: in too my head, the Minister of Defense only because

2585
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: Reggie White was actually an ordained minister.

2586
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,799
Speaker 2: So I mean it just it was just too perfect.

2587
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 2: Rodney Pete, who I work.

2588
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: With on our local affiliate A five to seventy LA

2589
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Sports every day, he said one time Reggie White sacked

2590
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 1: him and said, you get man.

2591
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 2: Your offensive line needs to pray for you. Brother.

2592
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 4: They get you.

2593
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 3: They gonna get you killed. Back here, man, exercise those demons.

2594
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

2595
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 4: Thank you, Brie.

2596
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 2: That was great.

2597
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 11: That's pretty fast.

2598
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 3: A fun breeze three coming up next to close things, Alan.

2599
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it really almost over? It's almost over?

2600
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 8: You know what.

2601
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 3: I think we got to finish where we start already here.

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Speaker 3: And there was a big story earlier with Shadure Sanders,

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Speaker 3: and we haven't gotten to everything for the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: and what this could mean coming up next here on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, I'm out of Maslin. He's Kevin Figures

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Speaker 3: having deja vu here, Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I'm at a Maslim We got k fig here in

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Speaker 3: the building, gonna be with you guys, little f and

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Speaker 3: a takeover. And you know, if you missed any of

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Speaker 3: today's show, you want to catch the podcast, just search

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Right after

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Speaker 3: follow the podcast and rated five stars and.

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Speaker 2: You can't even provide a review.

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Speaker 3: Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast,

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Speaker 3: and you'll find today's full show posted right after we

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Speaker 3: get off the air. Before that happens, Kevin Shadure Sanders

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Speaker 3: kind of lit the sports world on fire.

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01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 2: He'd man of the hour. People are printing Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: tickets for the already.

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Speaker 3: He reminded me with his performance of something from one

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01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 3: of my favorite shows ever, Friday Night Lights, where Tim Riggans,

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Speaker 3: who's like the brooding cool fullback is talking with Mink.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy who's like ripping beers and then running

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Speaker 1: for five hundred yards the next night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he could roll like that. He could live that

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Speaker 3: lifestyle and still be good on the field. He told her,

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Speaker 3: and she was looking good. He was like, you're looking good,

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Speaker 3: like real good. Like that's how far we're taking this

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Speaker 3: with Shadoor. People are starting to dream in Cleveland now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's nice that you have someone to

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Speaker 1: offer you a little bit of hope for I think

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01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 1: it's maybe it's mean to say a hopeless franchise, but

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what they have been. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: thought you struck gold with Deshaun Watson a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago and gave him all that guaranteed money which

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Speaker 1: set off a whole controversy with the NFLPA and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. And he's been terrible, and now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, just on the heels of that, you luck

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Speaker 1: into a guy that you know, had a lot of

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Speaker 1: hype who for a lot of people had a first, second,

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Speaker 1: third grade. You get him into the fifth round, and look,

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01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: he's not the second coming of you know, some superstar quarterback,

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01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: at least you can't judge that off of one preseason start.

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Speaker 1: But he certainly looks like he belongs on an NFL field.

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Speaker 1: He looks like he can make some of those requisite throws.

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Speaker 1: I think anto tight windows. I think that's the most

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Speaker 1: encouraging part.

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Speaker 3: He looks professional, he looks competent, He looks how he

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Speaker 3: should for at least all the people that doubted him.

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Speaker 3: He's firing back. Yeah, well, he's getting back at all

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Speaker 3: the teams that passed on him. And he's going to

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01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 3: have this chip on his shoulder forever because of it,

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Speaker 3: and he's gonna beat him with his play.

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Speaker 2: Now, was had a self inflicted chip though, That's the

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Speaker 2: thing to some degree.

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Speaker 1: And if he had you know, respected again based on sourcing,

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Speaker 1: if he had respected the process at the combine, in

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Speaker 1: the interviews, did personal workouts for teams, did as much

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Speaker 1: as he possibly could have to put his best foot

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Speaker 1: forward for teams.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't fall into the fifth round.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people who say, like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're talented, but you're not so talented that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make all these sacrifices and live and basically

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Speaker 1: live with the fact that you were disrespectful and disrespect

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Speaker 1: to the process. No, we're not gonna take you in

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Speaker 1: a second, third round. We'll find somebody else.

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Speaker 4: The reason that I.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't believe he slid that far was because the coverage

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Speaker 3: of him in college, specifically on Fox with somebody that

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Speaker 3: I respect as much as anyone in the football world,

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Speaker 3: Joe Klatt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of his games he would say over.

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Speaker 3: And over again, that's an NFL throw right there, that's

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Speaker 3: poison the pocket, that's an NFL arm. And I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: to myself, like, has he made more NFL throws in

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Speaker 3: college than Tom Brady did in the actual NFL With

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Speaker 3: the way he talked about him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's right.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the things that Joel mentioned

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Speaker 1: from what you were just talking about if you look

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Speaker 1: at his player profile coming out of the draft, for

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Speaker 1: all things, he was complimented on poison the pocket, despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that he played behind a terrible offensive line

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Speaker 1: for the majority of his career at Colorado. An accurate arm.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not the strongest arm, but an NFL arm strong enough.

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Speaker 1: The biggest issues with him lack of athleticism. Didn't move,

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Speaker 1: doesn't move extremely well, doesn't have a power arm, and

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Speaker 1: he's not that tall. Well hold up now, But we've

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01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: seen plenty of guys be success with Drew Brees. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's been plenty of shorter quarterbacks who have success. To

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Speaker 1: a tagoba Ala, you know, the forty nine ers quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know that they're brock party. So there's been there's

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Speaker 1: been guys in the right system who can't thrive despite

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Speaker 1: their physical deficiencies.

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Speaker 3: You are not one of them yet, not yet, not yet.

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Speaker 2: Fill some promise at the end of last year. The

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Speaker 2: only way he.

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Speaker 3: Can see over the line is if he rolls out.

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Speaker 3: Those are the only throws he can make. Right now,

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Speaker 3: He's shorter than Doug Pluti on tell I thought they

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Speaker 3: just keep a fullback back there to just prop them up,

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Speaker 3: just put put him over his head. He alone is

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Speaker 3: keeping the fullback position a lot right. But I'll say this,

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Speaker 3: the stuff that I think can translate is the precision

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Speaker 3: passing for sure, the touch passes he made in this

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Speaker 3: game in tight windows. That stuff can translate. That was

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Speaker 3: meaningful in this even though it's preseason, even though he

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Speaker 3: was taking on the Panthers, Like, there are things that

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Speaker 3: you can legitimately, legitimately be hopeful about and still move

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Speaker 3: forward and say, all right, it's preseason, but I don't know,

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Speaker 3: we may have something here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, we've seen guys go out there and

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Speaker 1: look totally lost. I mean, I remember Jared Goff his

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Speaker 1: rookie year and how bad he looked for the Rams. Now,

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Speaker 1: granted with right coaching and all that, he was able

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Speaker 1: to turn it around. So I don't think anybody's necessarily

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Speaker 1: a lost cause at the very beginning of their career.

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Speaker 1: Nor is anybody I think the second coming of you know,

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame, you know, Peyton Manning type. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I think exhortations need to be

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Speaker 1: tempered a little bit when it comes to szucudor Sanders.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's you can be encouraged by what

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Speaker 1: you saw in his first outing on Friday Night.

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Speaker 3: Poise under Noise. He was able to elevate amongst and

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Speaker 3: above the pressure. Did we do the same in this

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Speaker 3: show three hours later?

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Speaker 2: Well, I like to think so we didn't.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get you yanked off of the air midway

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Speaker 1: through the show, so that's always a good sign.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to brebreave nothing, not having us fail and being

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Speaker 3: taken off the air like that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark, appreciate it. Thanks for you guys having

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Speaker 1: us Kevin figures. And I'm also on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: My guys the Fellas coming up next Jason Fitz and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Gargano, Fox Sports Radio,