Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always trying to get
Speaker 1: Rod tidwell paid. It's twenty twenty four, Show me the
Speaker 1: Money still alive, and so is Patrick. Claybond so lucky
Speaker 1: to be joined by him today from a hotel room
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati where he covered the Bengals and he's running
Speaker 1: all over the country. Patrick, I'm excited for this show
Speaker 1: this weekend, like I've been prepping all weekend to give
Speaker 1: the listeners as many winners and losers as possible. I've
Speaker 1: been reading way too many camp reports, watching way too
Speaker 1: much ITC So I hope you're ready.
Speaker 2: I love that you try to pawn it off as like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is a rarity. I'm not one hundred percent plugged
Speaker 2: into all this stuff anyway, and I'm doing this reason.
Speaker 2: This is just this is just Greg. This is Greg
Speaker 2: and his natural habitat.
Speaker 3: I love it fair.
Speaker 1: But you know, we haven't always had these Sunday night shows,
Speaker 1: and it reminded me. I used to do these articles
Speaker 1: like sixty four things you know we learned from training
Speaker 1: camp over the last week or whatever, and so that's
Speaker 1: how I'm viewing these Sunday night shows, kind of catching
Speaker 1: up on everything that's been going on while everyone else
Speaker 1: is paying attention to the Olympics and you don't have
Speaker 1: time to check out you know what Pewterreport dot com
Speaker 1: is saying about the Bucks, or some radio stations saying
Speaker 1: about the Steelers.
Speaker 3: So we hope to get you covered.
Speaker 1: With all the news big and small, the winners and
Speaker 1: the losers, and but before that, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: want to get to one health note, which the Patriots
Speaker 1: announced Sunday evening that Christian Barmore, who I believe is
Speaker 1: their best player right now overall best defensive player, is
Speaker 1: not with the team right now, suffering with blood clots.
Speaker 1: He is out indefinitely. So I just want to wish him,
Speaker 1: you know, a speedy recovery. And they didn't say anything
Speaker 1: about his timeline, but just they hope that he's back.
Speaker 1: It's obviously very serious issue and glad that they caught it,
Speaker 1: so hope he as well. Let's get to the winners
Speaker 1: and the losers.
Speaker 3: Patrick.
Speaker 1: And since we last taped Tua Tongue of Iloi's contract
Speaker 1: got done, which I was excited about and Tua was
Speaker 1: also excited about. While talking to Dolphin's crowd on Sunday,
Speaker 1: I tell you.
Speaker 3: About Patrick's got his hands over his.
Speaker 2: Second hand embarrassment. Is is really something And I know
Speaker 2: it was a dare for Tua to say that, but
Speaker 2: still that is so not him, right, like whatever whatever
Speaker 2: you think. And to people who don't know, because like
Speaker 2: you mentioned Rod Tipple and yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 2: the math on how long ago, Jerry maguire, we're are.
Speaker 1: We in there was nineteen ninety six, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think Tua was alive or he was maybe just born.
Speaker 2: But that's how it used to be before meme culture.
Speaker 2: Like we would have a movie and then there would
Speaker 2: be a line from the movie and we would just
Speaker 2: repeat it for years and years, and that was the
Speaker 2: one from from the movie. And yeah, like good for Tua.
Speaker 2: We were talking about it last time. We were in
Speaker 2: the studio right when we're you know, talking about this
Speaker 2: hypothetical show and I got a microphone and everything. Everything's
Speaker 2: great here in Cincinnati. But that was my question to you,
Speaker 2: like why not just why not just pay him now
Speaker 2: and save the money in the hashole. You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to do it anyway, and here we are.
Speaker 1: I was wrong being skeptical of this. I'll own my
Speaker 1: bad takes and it wasn't that this would never happen.
Speaker 1: But he got all the money. They showed him the
Speaker 1: money and yeah, no, I shout out. You know that movie,
Speaker 1: which which was a great movie, great maybe over a
Speaker 1: very good movie. It stood the test of time, and
Speaker 1: that quote has stood the test of time. I love
Speaker 1: that it's still making waves. But it makes more sense
Speaker 1: when you find out, yes, the offensive coordinator, Darryl Bevel
Speaker 1: dared him to say it, he said afterwards, but I
Speaker 1: don't know he got into it. I like seeing the
Speaker 1: personality to it, like he's shaking his hips. The press
Speaker 1: conference was a cool moment though. I did watch some
Speaker 1: highlights of that, and you know, he just said, words
Speaker 1: can't describe how I feel, and you could tell he
Speaker 1: looks different. He said, how he gave up sugar. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a big thing to give up. Sugar is in everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fruit function. I mean, there's he's got to
Speaker 2: have some sugars, right.
Speaker 1: Right, Oranges like have tons and tons of sugar. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're eating some fruit. But it was it
Speaker 1: was cool to see him. It was cool to see
Speaker 1: his his son peeking on the side of the podium,
Speaker 1: beautiful boy, and it's a journey that he's been on.
Speaker 3: Patrick. I looked it up.
Speaker 1: It was less than a year ago at this time
Speaker 1: mid August that he first said publicly in a press
Speaker 1: conference that he had considered retirement at the end of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. You had all those injuries
Speaker 1: that he had, obviously the two concussions that were really serious,
Speaker 1: and so to be on that journey is pretty incredible
Speaker 1: to get to this point, Mike McDaniel said, it's why
Speaker 1: you coach is journeys like this. You could see how
Speaker 1: excited Tyreek Hill was when he was on NFL Network
Speaker 1: with our cam Wolf. And we'll get to the money
Speaker 1: of it all in a second, but it is kind
Speaker 1: of amazing to me that that efficient of a season,
Speaker 1: that that much has changed in one year to where
Speaker 1: he's at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, ultimately, the thing about Tula, right is
Speaker 2: that level of honesty and openness that he doesn't really
Speaker 2: run away from. And there's not a lot of athletes
Speaker 2: right that would admit right or just even feel comfortable
Speaker 2: having that conversation publicly, and so you're you're you're getting
Speaker 2: it like whatever whatever it is that you know that
Speaker 2: that he was dealing with in that particular instance. I know,
Speaker 2: like coming back from the hip, right he's had the concussions.
Speaker 2: There were so many things that happened to back to
Speaker 2: back and then disappointing finishes where you know you do
Speaker 2: question things, so you do consider things, and then he
Speaker 2: let it up led the NFL in passing. I know
Speaker 2: that a lot of those things are met with skepticism
Speaker 2: considering the offense, it's considering the weapons around them. But
Speaker 2: if it was that easy to do, I think more
Speaker 2: people will do it. And I think this contract is
Speaker 2: going to work out for too well.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he landed in the perfect situation. But
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel went there for a vision because he knew
Speaker 1: that Tua was perfect for what he's going to do.
Speaker 1: That's football is finding the right coach with the right quarterback.
Speaker 1: And it happened. And I know they're I'm not that
Speaker 1: big on too it. I don't think he's like a
Speaker 1: top seven quarterback, but the top fourteen or so quarterbacks
Speaker 1: get these big Hey, you're a franchise quarterback contracts. That's
Speaker 1: just the way it is. And when you dig under
Speaker 1: the hood, it's really a three year contract and Jordan
Speaker 1: Love's contract is similar. They're counted as for your extensions.
Speaker 1: But when you look at where the guarantees stop. First
Speaker 1: of all, it's not even garanteed passed this year, which
Speaker 1: is crazy. If for some reason he played app like
Speaker 1: the cap hit would be crazy, but like he doesn't
Speaker 1: have guaranteed money pass this year. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: it is crazy how NFL contracts work that they don't
Speaker 1: really guarantee him anything, but it's really a three year
Speaker 1: contract and then if they ever wanted to change they could.
Speaker 3: Let's get to another winner.
Speaker 1: I'll throw out two to start, which is Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: because you know these two deals go together. What was
Speaker 1: your reaction Patrick when the Jordan Love contract went down?
Speaker 2: Literally the same exact reaction that I had with the
Speaker 2: to A deal. And we've seen it right play out,
Speaker 2: especially if you look at Davante and Aaron's like their
Speaker 2: last couple of years in Green Bay, where there was
Speaker 2: this himming and hauling. It seemed like decisions were and
Speaker 2: ultimately like Aaron's decision and darkness closets and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Like the team specifically, it seemed like there was a
Speaker 2: desire to play hardball right with these franchise cornerstones, and
Speaker 2: they had an opportunity here with Jordan Love And I
Speaker 2: understand the people critical of the sample size, and they
Speaker 2: say it's just a stretch late in the season, but
Speaker 2: the price is only going to go up, Like if
Speaker 2: you want him to be successful and you're trying to
Speaker 2: facilitate a successful team here in twenty twenty four, the
Speaker 2: price is only going to go up, so it just
Speaker 2: makes sense to go now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised how much pushback this got of
Speaker 1: like he's only done it for eight or nine games, Like,
Speaker 1: what a risk. But people said the same thing when
Speaker 1: they drafted him, Oh, what are they doing? Like we
Speaker 1: had this argument on this show. What are they doing?
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see how that worked out.
Speaker 1: People got annoyed when they actually gave him the two
Speaker 1: year contract before last year, being like, ed, is this
Speaker 1: a little bit risky? Like guaranteeing him money into twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. They have him in the building every single day.
Speaker 1: They know exactly how he fits with this coach who's
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive coach in the league. Like
Speaker 1: they have so much information compared to like when you
Speaker 1: have to draft the quarterback number one overall or a
Speaker 1: first round pick or something like, you have so little information.
Speaker 3: They know everything about him.
Speaker 1: If you can't see with your own eyes how good
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is, you're just a hater or you're a
Speaker 1: Vikings fan, Like I think he's going to be more
Speaker 1: up and down than a Joe Burrow or even a
Speaker 1: Herbert maybe just in terms of steady week to week,
Speaker 1: because I think he's just that's his style of play
Speaker 1: that he's going to have some bad games where you're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, that was a bad Jordan Love game, like
Speaker 1: far frankly, but the highs are going to be crazy
Speaker 1: and the average game is going to be so good
Speaker 1: that I don't even care. And those last eight or
Speaker 1: nine games of the year, he was like the best
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2: And I'm I want to see Jordan Love taking risks
Speaker 2: like Jordan Love turning the ball, Like how many times
Speaker 2: do we see Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball away? Yeah?
Speaker 2: He the touchdown interception ratio was crazy, But ultimately you
Speaker 2: want to see guy go out there and get buckets,
Speaker 2: and Jordan Love absolutely can and will do that. And
Speaker 2: if they like we've seen the team flame out late.
Speaker 2: We saw it with a guy who's going to the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and so this talk about pressure and
Speaker 2: all this other stuff. Jordan Love has been there and
Speaker 2: throughout all of that, why not, And I think it
Speaker 2: made perfect sense.
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody right, And in terms of underpaid, like quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are going to take a huge portion of the salary cap.
Speaker 1: That's just how it is. It's not a higher portion
Speaker 1: right now than it used to be. It's just that
Speaker 1: the salary cap has gone up and Jordan Love's contract,
Speaker 1: like all these are going to look totally different in
Speaker 1: two or three years. And if we really want to
Speaker 1: get into it, you know, we're we're team America, Patrick,
Speaker 1: you know, we're into capitalism. But if this was a
Speaker 1: free market, like they would be making one hundred million
Speaker 1: plus a year. I have no question, Like, how much
Speaker 1: would Patrick Mahomes make if there was no salary cap?
Speaker 1: How much is Jordan Love worth to the bottom line,
Speaker 1: if there was no salary cap. It's a conversation for
Speaker 1: another day, But to me, he would be They would
Speaker 1: be making twice as much. So you could argue that
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are underpaid if you really want, Yeah, I mean, we.
Speaker 2: Could game it out. They would be Patrick Mahomes would
Speaker 2: be the engine of some local economy where state and
Speaker 2: local governments would get involved to procure his services. I
Speaker 2: think we could supersee one hundred million dollars might.
Speaker 3: Not do it, No, not for Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because I was looking at
Speaker 1: like what Ronaldo makes and Messy. It's like, yeah, Mahomes
Speaker 1: would be in the two hundred plus range. I think
Speaker 1: the difference would be without the cap, there would be
Speaker 1: a way bigger gap between Mahomes and al and like
Speaker 1: a Tua. What the cap does is it makes it
Speaker 1: so all these quarterbacks are closer together than they really
Speaker 1: are performance wise, which isn't Patrick Mahomes' fault. It's just
Speaker 1: like you can only go so high, and yeah, shout
Speaker 1: out to Tua, shout out to Jordan Levet. We'll wrap
Speaker 1: this little quarterback section with my first loser. They were
Speaker 1: both winners, obviously. And that's the reporters that insist they
Speaker 1: have to call Jordan Love the highest paid quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league because his agent says so, because he's not. Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, he's tied on average per year salary
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow and Lawrence I think it is. I
Speaker 1: think those are the three that are tied for average,
Speaker 1: and it's exactly the same. It's fifty three point one,
Speaker 1: and so what that means is new money, average salary
Speaker 1: the years tacked on. But you could also measure it
Speaker 1: by guaranteed money. Neither of them are that close. They're
Speaker 1: like fifth and sixth or whatever. You could measure it
Speaker 1: by cash over the next four years or so. Both
Speaker 1: of them are like fifth or sixth in that you
Speaker 1: could measure it over their whole contract, because these are
Speaker 1: extensions in which they would be even lower. Like Lamar
Speaker 1: is making fifty three a year. He just didn't sign
Speaker 1: an extension, so and everyone knows that when they're making
Speaker 1: these reports. But the agent who is so powerful that
Speaker 1: like he helped get Deshaun Watson that contract and has
Speaker 1: kept that because he kept everyone quiet enough to like
Speaker 1: get him that contract, like just serves this up and
Speaker 1: it's just it's not the truth. So he just I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that Jordan loves the highest paid
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league all year and use it like
Speaker 1: as some weapon against him, not that it would be
Speaker 1: his fault, but he's also just not it's not it's
Speaker 1: not factual.
Speaker 3: It's it's a way to spin facts.
Speaker 2: Well, I think and in defense right of the folks
Speaker 2: that I think the general conversation right supersedes the the
Speaker 2: agent and their particular involvement because right, remember when it
Speaker 2: happened with Mahome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're the ones that are framing it and
Speaker 1: like writing those words out.
Speaker 2: So there, I mean, we do have to bring personal responsibility.
Speaker 2: And like if somebody tells you that, it's like, well,
Speaker 2: like maybe we should maybe we should check on that.
Speaker 2: You just got to look at the flow and somebody
Speaker 2: like we talk, we tell people like how it's monopoly
Speaker 2: money all the time and there's years at the end
Speaker 2: of some things that you'll never see, like you'll never
Speaker 2: see and somebody's like, well, Trent Williams has has three
Speaker 2: years left on his deal. It's like those years aren't
Speaker 2: what you think that they are like considering.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's another way they weren't the highest paid.
Speaker 1: By the way is total value. So that was four
Speaker 1: other ways that they weren't the highest paid. I just
Speaker 1: like pointing that out. I mean, no, I'm being like
Speaker 1: a grumpy person. It also doesn't matter. It was interesting
Speaker 1: to me that they made these deals shorter. I think
Speaker 1: ultimately it for both sides, especially the Dolphins. It serves
Speaker 1: both sides. It's a little less risky for the.
Speaker 3: Team.
Speaker 1: I guess it's all about where the guarantees are, but
Speaker 1: it's more that the players get to get another bite
Speaker 1: at the apple earlier. So you saw Patrick Mahomes sign
Speaker 1: that really long contract, and you saw some other longer ones.
Speaker 3: Now they're getting.
Speaker 1: To be these these three year four year extensions, and
Speaker 1: so that's a little bit of a change. One last
Speaker 1: news item before we take our first break, and then
Speaker 1: we're going to try to go faster through the rest
Speaker 1: of the winners and losers. I guess a loser here
Speaker 1: would be the Cowboys depth. We got bad news Sunday
Speaker 1: afternoon that Sam Williams, their edge rusher, tore his a
Speaker 1: cl If you're not familiar, Sam Williams good edge rusher,
Speaker 1: good young player, gonna be their third or fourth edg rusher.
Speaker 1: I thought the strongest on paper edge group in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL was the Cowboys, in part because of how
Speaker 1: good their bench guys are, and Sam Williams was was
Speaker 1: probably the first guy off the bench along with their
Speaker 1: their draft pick and so you feel for him losing
Speaker 1: a guy for the season this early in training camp.
Speaker 2: And he's got, I believe, one more year before a
Speaker 2: free agent year next year after next year, and that's
Speaker 2: that puts him in a really tough spot because you
Speaker 2: know that's that's the contract year and he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to go into that coming off of Torrent Cruisee. I
Speaker 2: guess silver Lining it's July, and so so maybe that
Speaker 2: that'll put him about a year coming come out next year.
Speaker 1: So the player I was talking about was Marshaon Neeland
Speaker 1: they took in the second round, who will have a
Speaker 1: big role. I think was going to have a role anyways,
Speaker 1: and it could change up Michael Parsons's flexibility. Been interesting
Speaker 1: to hear that they've had him at off ball linebacker
Speaker 1: more than a little at camp so far and they're
Speaker 1: probably just trying out things and that was something he
Speaker 1: did as a rookie, and obviously he's the best pass.
Speaker 3: Rusher in the league.
Speaker 1: They probably didn't want to have him major in that,
Speaker 1: but they wanted to maybe have him ready a little
Speaker 1: more flexible. It's a position they're thin at off ball
Speaker 1: linebacker and now with one less pass rusher.
Speaker 3: They're probably a little less.
Speaker 1: Likely to do that very often in the regular season,
Speaker 1: and that's not gonna that part of it won't disappoint
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans because they want to see Parsons rushing the passer.
Speaker 1: All right, now, it is a good time. We're going
Speaker 1: to take a break. And now, well, I'll let you even.
Speaker 3: Throw out a winner.
Speaker 1: I'll do that, Patrick back after this, Okay, Patrick, that's
Speaker 1: what I like to call the meafy portion of the program.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Get deep into the weeds camp notes. You were in Denver,
Speaker 1: you're in Cincinnati, and you shouldn't just throw out your
Speaker 1: winners and losers. From there, We're gonna go all the
Speaker 1: way around. But why why don't you start us off
Speaker 1: with a winner or loser?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I want to start on the left coast.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with a guy who got blasted by everybody.
Speaker 2: Quinton Johnston spirited defense from his head coach when people
Speaker 2: were asked about his struggles last year, and he says
Speaker 2: that Quinton got a bad rap. He's been making some
Speaker 2: plays in training camp. I think you know, if anybody's
Speaker 2: familiar with my thoughts on Greg Browman. I think that
Speaker 2: this could be a spot for success for Quentin Johnson.
Speaker 2: So I think he is a winner train.
Speaker 1: Camp okay, okay, and we're seeing he's mixing in with
Speaker 1: the first team. I think camp and the preseason will
Speaker 1: kind of decide whether he's the third receiver. There could
Speaker 1: be DJ Chark, They're going to play some two tight ends.
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to be at Chargers camp on Monday,
Speaker 1: and so that'll be part of our next show. I'll
Speaker 1: let people know what I saw of Clinton Johnson at practice.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in Kyle Pitts as an early winner,
Speaker 1: in part just because he is part of a four
Speaker 1: person room. You know the dorm room at the end
Speaker 1: of the hall that would like have four people and
Speaker 1: would close the door. Do you remember that I was
Speaker 1: in one of those rooms. It was the only year
Speaker 1: I lived in dorms. And it is the three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and Kyle Pitts. I mean, that's like sending a message
Speaker 1: right there to just and now and every Falcons practice
Speaker 1: they're like, Kyle Pitts is getting all of the targets, and.
Speaker 3: I think it's because of his spot in the dorm.
Speaker 2: You think that relationship doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker 2: the fact that he's like a mechanized destroyer of worlds
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: Okay, it might be part of it too, and he's healthy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, every every Falcons training camp report is just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is getting the most targets. And then I
Speaker 1: see that that he's hanging out. He's rooming with the
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. Can you name who the third is? Of
Speaker 1: course it's Kirk Cousins Michael Pennix. And I feel bad
Speaker 1: for number three because he's it. He's a legit NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he's in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I feel horrible.
Speaker 3: Because Taylor Heineke.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, there he is. Look at the at
Speaker 2: the survivor. That's like Taylor Heinekee just making it.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be wouldn't be shocked if he's someone else's backup.
Speaker 3: Come week one, all right, give me another one.
Speaker 2: Another winner. We're going to go to the Denver Broncos
Speaker 2: where I was yesterday. There was look, Jared Stidham is
Speaker 2: winning this quarterback battle. Through my eyes. Wow, And again
Speaker 2: that is a very the caveat is these are through
Speaker 2: my eyes so, but the quarterback rotation right was Stidham
Speaker 2: in the first practice, and then they went with the
Speaker 2: rookie bow Nicks the second practice, and they actually gave
Speaker 2: Zach a shot shot off to Steve White. He feels
Speaker 2: that the resurgence is coming. But then it went back
Speaker 2: to Jared Stidham, and I think when pads go like
Speaker 2: just blitz pick up, understanding the offense the way the
Speaker 2: way that the offense moves, it feels like Jared Stidham
Speaker 2: is going to win the Broncos starting quarterback job.
Speaker 3: Wow, now that would be an upset.
Speaker 1: I do think there's a better chance of that happening
Speaker 1: than the consensus. So I'm glad you threw that out there.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of Trevor Simeon back in
Speaker 1: the day. Remember on the Around the NFL podcast I
Speaker 1: was out that August. I was like, guys, I think
Speaker 1: this dude, Trevor Simmons might might win this job. And
Speaker 1: I kind of feel that about Stidham. But the most
Speaker 1: of it is still yet to come for sure. But
Speaker 1: Sean Payton did kind of indicate they might change up
Speaker 1: their rotations sooner than later, and my guess would be
Speaker 1: that it just narrows it down to Nicks and Stidham.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would take Nicks out of the
Speaker 1: competition anytime soon. Reportedly he had his best day I
Speaker 1: think on Saturday, and and those are the two main guys,
Speaker 1: but maybe a little less for Zach Wilson. Let's stick
Speaker 1: actually I'm going to go back to Atlanta, but stick
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks. Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers are just
Speaker 1: winners that everything went well this week and all of
Speaker 1: their practice reports are just like the ball's not hitting
Speaker 1: the ground and I'll get to like a loser later,
Speaker 1: but that's just like it's rare in the NFL actually
Speaker 1: at this time of the year that the offenses are
Speaker 1: being functional, Like it's usually a tough week, this first
Speaker 1: week for offenses. So the fact that Cousins and Rogers
Speaker 1: are just doing the things you expect and all the
Speaker 1: caveats apply, it's non contact, blah blah blah, but they're
Speaker 1: not looking any different than you would expect them. Cousins
Speaker 1: in a new place, Rogers off and Achilles like that
Speaker 1: is I think that's really good news. I actually think
Speaker 1: that is a genuine takeaway from this first week.
Speaker 2: And perhaps it speaks to the advance of medical technology,
Speaker 2: or maybe it's just just these guys and the ability
Speaker 2: right where you have quarterbacks who are later on in
Speaker 2: their career, who have had all the success that they
Speaker 2: can well, you know, Kirk Cousins come up short a
Speaker 2: couple times, but he's had playoff success as well, and
Speaker 2: they get a chance to pick a very good spot.
Speaker 2: And we've seen guys just when you have that opportunity
Speaker 2: to pick your team, you normally do it for a reason,
Speaker 2: and these guys have found themselves in pretty good spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't mean I'm like just assuming they're the
Speaker 1: same guys because that was on that is on my radar,
Speaker 1: but just the first I think test being passed that okay,
Speaker 1: no red flags here. While I'm talking about it, might
Speaker 1: as well not delay. Like offenses are are losers around
Speaker 1: the league, like just as someone who is going through
Speaker 1: all these reports, like everyone is concerned that their offense thinks,
Speaker 1: and so I think it's just what happens when you
Speaker 1: can't really block as an offensive lineman the first week.
Speaker 1: And granted most of these offenses might stink in the
Speaker 1: regular season that have been really strugging the Patriots, the Giants,
Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Jaguars. I've seen just a lot. Jaguars
Speaker 1: are a little surprising that it's just every day. They're like,
Speaker 1: the defense is absolutely dominating Trevor Lawrence and there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions there. But I just think it's
Speaker 1: it's partly it's that time of year that it's just
Speaker 1: it's difficult and some takeaways from there, but like overall,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get too panicky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very very early and it's very very difficult,
Speaker 2: right considering that the stakes and a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, people will see like seven on seven stuff
Speaker 2: where you could take it either way. Right, it's like,
Speaker 2: oh gosh, we can't cover anybody. But I was watching
Speaker 2: a rep this afternoon where Trenton Irwin is getting is
Speaker 2: getting open and like there's there's decent coverage and Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow just puts the ball in a great spot and
Speaker 2: it's like, well, so how are we marking that there's
Speaker 2: no pass rush and you've got a guy that can
Speaker 2: you know, throw the ball wherever he wants. So it's
Speaker 2: it's very difficult to evaluate like offense defense right now, everybody.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe maybe I'm over. I'm over.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just definitely what we're trying to say in
Speaker 1: all these places, like, okay, just calm down. It's it's
Speaker 1: okay that the Patriots offense is not working against a
Speaker 1: defense that's been together.
Speaker 3: It's not at Matt Patricia levels. All right, what do
Speaker 3: you got for me?
Speaker 2: Patrick? Anthony Richardson looks great, he looks spectacular. I was
Speaker 2: able to watch a little bit of him going four
Speaker 2: for four in a team session, just moving great ball,
Speaker 2: has great velocity coming. It's it's all the things that
Speaker 2: we saw in those four games. And he's back, he's healthy,
Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna be even better.
Speaker 3: I love that one.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I do love He's another guy that because
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of days in Ots that you
Speaker 1: were I was a little worried about coming into camp
Speaker 1: and it's been all systems go. They're not putting Adie
Speaker 1: Mitchell ahead of Alec Pierce yet. That that's something to
Speaker 1: watch as.
Speaker 2: We I think they got to get them on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's early. It's early.
Speaker 1: I am going to give a loser despite just saying
Speaker 1: that we should be patient, with the offenses in terms
Speaker 1: of like performance and just say hearing that Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: just hasn't been accurate and is underthrowing everything. That's a
Speaker 1: little different to me than the offense totally struggling as
Speaker 1: a whole, that that they're trying to go deep all
Speaker 1: the time and he has just been off target again
Speaker 1: five weeks till the regular season starts. But it's one
Speaker 1: thing I always worry about with the guy coming off
Speaker 1: with torn acl Sometimes it messes with your mechanics and
Speaker 1: your accuracy and in just your throwing motion. And it
Speaker 1: just reportedly hasn't been great in New York pretty consistently
Speaker 1: throughout the start of camp. The positive is that Neighbors
Speaker 1: is like always open and maybe he's just too hard
Speaker 1: not to underthrow, because that's every every day. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: Neighbors had to come back for a pass that Daniel
Speaker 1: Dunes underthrown and Daniad Jones has a big arm or
Speaker 1: he had you know, he had a good arm. That's
Speaker 1: not a concern to me, But that's the positive. His
Speaker 1: Neighbors is supportively supposedly wrecking shop every practice, But Danion
Speaker 1: Jones struggling and drew Locke also struggling.
Speaker 3: So it's just a struggle fest.
Speaker 2: And maybe you know, if we're gonna miss, now's the
Speaker 2: time to miss, right. I get a chance to work
Speaker 2: on things. And perhaps there's hope for Dimes after all.
Speaker 2: Who knows knows. But yeah, it's a watching the elite
Speaker 2: neighbors basically stopping look like a fair catch was not
Speaker 2: not inspired.
Speaker 1: No, and but it is exciting to hear the way
Speaker 1: that they're talking about neighbors there that just like he
Speaker 1: wants the ball, they are insisting on.
Speaker 3: Getting him the ball.
Speaker 1: A couple guys, I'm going to give his winners that
Speaker 1: might be getting the ball a little more out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. Taysom Hill lining up as a running back
Speaker 1: and a full back quite a bit. I just like
Speaker 1: that as a full back. Let's go Taysom Hill full
Speaker 1: back days. And then I'm buying in on the Damian
Speaker 1: Pierce resurgence season. He does pass the test for me
Speaker 1: of like he has been good in the NFL. We've
Speaker 1: seen it with our eyes. And he talked about maybe
Speaker 1: he wasn't in like perfect shape last year and just
Speaker 1: learning some things and had some injuries and Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: hasn't really practiced at all at Texans camp, and he's
Speaker 1: an aging player with a lot of miles on him.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to push the panic button there, but
Speaker 1: that could happen during the season, and everyone who's been
Speaker 1: at practice just says, oh, Pierce looks like he's back
Speaker 1: to being the old Pier.
Speaker 3: So I'm buying back in on Damian Pierce.
Speaker 2: He's trying harder Joe Mixon camp, and he's motivated now.
Speaker 2: Thing to do with him being I don't think it's.
Speaker 1: He says, he's thin, Uh, you got any more for us?
Speaker 3: I got? I got a handful of little ones to come.
Speaker 2: Well, it's odd because Trent Brown isn't isn't practicing right now,
Speaker 2: but Amarius Mims comes in. And that's one thing that
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor has has said, when you have all these
Speaker 2: veterans right, like, you don't need to teach Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: right how to play football, like, you don't have to
Speaker 2: coach guys up when you've got guys that have been
Speaker 2: around for a long time. So I think Amarius Mims
Speaker 2: getting more time, uh plan playing tackle is good for
Speaker 2: the Bengals.
Speaker 3: How was the how are the vibes there since he the.
Speaker 2: Vibes are immaculate. There's you know, I saw a kid
Speaker 2: with the blonde hair today. Apparently that's going to be
Speaker 2: a thing. I mean, Joe's probably going to grow it out.
Speaker 3: And no, Jamar Chase, that's still a thing. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing some andre yoshavaspazz that that's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jermaine Burton as well. I think I think receivers. Uh,
Speaker 2: the team. The team looks great. It's just going to
Speaker 2: be a question of how they stay together. Is Joe
Speaker 2: healthy and back? But compared to Denver, there's a notable
Speaker 2: difference when you have a franchise quarterback and you're watching practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say I watched like that Sean peyton
Speaker 1: opening press conference freaked me out more than anything. He
Speaker 1: just didn't seem happy to be there. He was like
Speaker 1: it was like he had just walked off the field
Speaker 1: of a forty one to seven loss and it was
Speaker 1: the first day of training.
Speaker 3: Game I watched.
Speaker 1: I ended up watching work as someone told me, like,
Speaker 1: just watch this thing, and it's I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: almost like he.
Speaker 3: He's not I don't know, he's giving me parcels.
Speaker 1: Like in Dallas late or maybe parcels as an executive
Speaker 1: in Miami vibes.
Speaker 3: But that's we'll see, that's not fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just waiting for the winds to come. There
Speaker 2: was a great he did have a great moment that
Speaker 2: not a lot of people picked up on. It was
Speaker 2: it was on Friday, I believe somebody asked about his
Speaker 2: quarterbacks execution. He said he was for it, and there
Speaker 2: were only like a couple laughs, and I'm like, wait, guys,
Speaker 2: like got to give that some pop.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is a classic reference. Good job by Sean
Speaker 1: Payton to John McKay who said that back in the
Speaker 1: day when he was running the expansion Bucks, who were
Speaker 1: on just a brutal, brutal stretch. I think they're probably
Speaker 1: there as the worst team maybe in NFL history. They
Speaker 1: were in the mix a couple quick winners and losers.
Speaker 1: Winner Jake Bates you might not know him, but he's
Speaker 1: the UFL legend who had never kicked a field goal
Speaker 1: in a game until he kicked a sixty four yard
Speaker 1: field goal in the UFL. This is not an exaggeration, Patrick,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking professional. He had never kicked one in
Speaker 1: high school or college or professional. He was on some
Speaker 1: college teams but never got beyond being the backup. I
Speaker 1: think he came from a soccer background and he got
Speaker 1: a shot in the UFL and hit two sixty four
Speaker 1: yarders and now he's on the Lions. And unfortunately because
Speaker 1: Michael Badgeley taurus hamstring and is out for the season.
Speaker 1: The positive spin is this kid Baits is going to
Speaker 1: get the job. Most likely. He's looked good at camp
Speaker 1: and so it's a fun story. A guy who literally
Speaker 1: had never kicked a ball in a game until a
Speaker 1: few months ago. Dreams are made in the UFL. I'm
Speaker 1: going to throw out some losers to cornerbacks. Cornerback injuries,
Speaker 1: Chadobi a woozy. I think it was a calf injury early.
Speaker 1: This was a I know, I'm not taking a victory lap.
Speaker 1: It's way too early, obviously. But this was maybe the
Speaker 1: most curious contract in all of free agency. A guy
Speaker 1: who just did not look right coming off his torn
Speaker 1: ACL last year had to get bench with Cincinnati, and
Speaker 1: then they gave him a huge contract in Tennessee. So
Speaker 1: I hope he can get better. Marshawn Lattimore a hit
Speaker 1: pointer the Vikings cornerbacks Shaq Griffin has now joined Mackay
Speaker 1: Blackman on the sideline. Blackman's going to miss the season,
Speaker 1: Shack Griffin, it's not going to be that long or anything.
Speaker 1: But they're starting right now at practice Andrew Booth and
Speaker 1: Duke Shelley who was just signed a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: and so that that's tough for the Vikings and the
Speaker 1: Rams have Darius Williams on the shelf after they all
Speaker 1: already lost a cornerback. So injuries, unfortunately, are kind of
Speaker 1: the most noteworthy thing this time of year. You hate
Speaker 1: to see that, but especially Vikings Rams. And I'll keep
Speaker 1: an eye on Latimer because he's only right when you
Speaker 1: know he can be the best player at cornerback in
Speaker 1: the league. But when he's hurt, it's just not the same.
Speaker 1: It's a bad start to his season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta get him. It's just especially when you
Speaker 2: think back about how good that draft class was and
Speaker 2: how they're they're they're kind of falling, you know, by
Speaker 2: the wayside, and it's like twenty seventeen wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2: But you start looking at the clock and we got
Speaker 2: some miles, We got some miles piling.
Speaker 1: Up, You got any more you want to squeeze in
Speaker 1: Before we get to Bridget Connon, who also is Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get some Bengals Ravens takeaways from her.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm all positive, Greg. I mean, I didn't.
Speaker 2: It's really tough. It's tough, like I wasn't gonna go
Speaker 2: negative Bonnicks and making a positive on Jared Stidham. You know,
Speaker 2: it's all right.
Speaker 1: I'll throw out some more positives then you want me
Speaker 1: you have do you have more positives?
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin coming back looking looking healthier and better. I
Speaker 2: think the the Evans and Baker situation, everybody coming back.
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a bounce back
Speaker 2: year for Chris Godwin in Tampa Bay. I like it.
Speaker 2: I like the Bucks in the South.
Speaker 1: Okay uh and yeah, they they used it more in
Speaker 1: the slot last year.
Speaker 3: I think he totally works there.
Speaker 1: They signed McMillan, who from Washington, who's getting some buzz
Speaker 1: early in camp. He I thought about him for one
Speaker 1: of these nuggets. And so you had Trey Palmer, who
Speaker 1: did some things as a rookie. It that's a sneaky
Speaker 1: great receiver group. If McMillan is as good as they like. Again,
Speaker 1: pads haven't come on, but that that is a pretty
Speaker 1: great receiver group.
Speaker 3: I'll go positive too.
Speaker 1: I mean, number one, I've heard just insane things about
Speaker 1: Gino in practice so far.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to get excited.
Speaker 1: So someone wrote they've never seen a Seahawks quarterback start
Speaker 1: camp this well, I was like, Okay, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get too carried away, but their o. C Ryan Grubb,
Speaker 1: the way he talks about Gino is just like one
Speaker 1: of the most natural throwers of the ball that he
Speaker 1: has ever seen, and really is making Grub look better
Speaker 1: with all the protections he does. Excited about that. Justin
Speaker 1: Field's getting all the first team reps. It's not a
Speaker 1: bad thing for him, even if he's not going to
Speaker 1: win the starting job like he has now had almost
Speaker 1: a week of starter reps at Steelers camp because Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's still not back from that calf injury. And then
Speaker 1: last one is Kingsley Sue Matteya, the Chiefs left tackle.
Speaker 1: Looks like the second round pick is going to be
Speaker 1: their left tackle, so we don't know for sure, but
Speaker 1: he's getting all the reps with the first team right now,
Speaker 1: and so that is a big spot protecting Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: If you want to jump on Gino or fields, let
Speaker 1: me know. If not, you know, I'll let you free
Speaker 1: into the Cincinnati night. What do we got going on there?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's some sort of festival are going
Speaker 2: on downtown, so maybe I'll know. I'll get out here
Speaker 2: and see some vendors and yeah, the I think, Greg,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be cautious with your optimism for Gino Smith.
Speaker 1: I just don't want it to be in every show thing.
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks people are getting me getting me excited
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I mean Gino was getting them excited, So it's excitement
Speaker 2: all around.
Speaker 1: It kind of makes sense like he had to survive
Speaker 1: this offseason. He lost his guy and Pete Carroll. In
Speaker 1: the way his contract was set up in the draft,
Speaker 1: you could have gone sideways for him in terms of
Speaker 1: keeping that job, but he did keep it. And I mean,
Speaker 1: talk about best shape of your life. Just look at
Speaker 1: Gino right now. He just looks like a different person.
Speaker 1: It's his third year there. He's got a very creative
Speaker 1: offensive coach. He's got a group around him that is primed.
Speaker 1: I mean it's prime DK. You get the second year
Speaker 1: of Smith and Jigba, who's going to be better and
Speaker 1: it's just this is his year, I think to have
Speaker 1: like his best year is right now.
Speaker 2: Gina Smith, there it is. I think it's I think
Speaker 2: the West is going to be fun. I got Kyler
Speaker 2: down as a winner as well. It just did. There's
Speaker 2: there's a there's an excitement, there's a juice there that
Speaker 2: they haven't had in a while. The division is going
Speaker 2: to be fun to see.
Speaker 1: There was a report how he didn't feel that his
Speaker 1: lateral agility. See this is where reading all those team
Speaker 1: reports are coming in handy. He didn't feel like he
Speaker 1: really had that last year. He could run straight and
Speaker 1: you saw that you could still run, but he couldn't
Speaker 1: really do the joking that that he is known to do.
Speaker 1: And he says, that's all the way back now and
Speaker 1: you can really see it in practice. So that that's
Speaker 1: a good shout to finish up our winners and losers.
Speaker 1: You're always a winner, Patrick. Check them out on Inside
Speaker 1: Training Camp Live all week on NFL Network. We are
Speaker 1: really doing it big this week and Patrick is in
Speaker 1: the middle of it. We'll see you later, Buddy, and
Speaker 1: Bridget Conan is coming back after the break talk.
Speaker 3: Little Bengals and ratings sucret back on NFL Daily and.
Speaker 1: Back for Bengals practice. It's one of our best reporters
Speaker 1: at NFL Network. It's Bridget Condon.
Speaker 4: Wow, what an intro.
Speaker 1: I know she's straight off the field into your hotel room.
Speaker 1: I know how it is these ITC days. I don't
Speaker 1: really know how it is, but I can imagine you
Speaker 1: are in Baltimore for a couple of nights, you fly
Speaker 1: into Cincinnati, Like, what is your level of frazzled right now?
Speaker 5: Well, first, I just want to announce like, welcome to
Speaker 5: my crib MTV cribs, because I'm like, I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm letting you into my bedroom. Love that I am
Speaker 5: happy that this is a video and not us together
Speaker 5: because I smell awful because I was just in the
Speaker 5: blazing sun for like six hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my brain fried.
Speaker 5: I literally went to Chick fil A yesterday and the
Speaker 5: cashier was like, Okay, that's gonna be sixteen dollars and
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, thanks, and she's like staring at me,
Speaker 5: and I'm staring at her, and she's like, you have
Speaker 5: to pay now. And I was like, oh, got it.
Speaker 5: I was talking to Eric DaCosta and he was He's
Speaker 5: from Massachusetts and I was like, oh, I'm from Massachusetts too,
Speaker 5: and he was like what city. I was like, Massachusetts,
Speaker 5: So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: That it is hot at that Baltimore training camp. I've
Speaker 1: been there, and that'll that'll fry your brain. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I love love that. Bridget's on another masshole like me.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you spent a couple of days with the Ravens.
Speaker 1: What were your takeaways? I know Lamar must you must
Speaker 1: have missed Lamar one day and then he finally returned
Speaker 1: from his his sickness. Yeah, what was your thoughts seeing
Speaker 1: seven the Ravens for a couple of days?
Speaker 5: So initial thoughts here, Lamar Jackson running out on the
Speaker 5: field on Saturday was one of the coolest experience. And
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people want us to get
Speaker 5: into football, and we'll get there. But I just have
Speaker 5: to say there were fifty youth football teams in attendance, boys, tackle, girls,
Speaker 5: flag football.
Speaker 4: The way that these kids all.
Speaker 5: Went absolutely insane when Lamar ran by them and then
Speaker 5: they're like all running to the fence where they you know,
Speaker 5: fans can go up to and he comes over in
Speaker 5: waves and these kids are screaming their heads off, which to.
Speaker 4: Me is just a cool, cool moment.
Speaker 5: Lamar is so inspirational, especially to young kids in Baltimore,
Speaker 5: and to see that in person, that's what training camp
Speaker 5: is all about. I know that it's important for you know,
Speaker 5: the players to get into football shape, but that was
Speaker 5: so cool.
Speaker 4: It gave me chills.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a player now that OBJ
Speaker 1: is not who he once was that connects with fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the same way that Lamar does. Mahomes certainly, but
Speaker 1: he almost just seems like he's on another planet and
Speaker 1: somehow Lamar is like one of them, especially in Baltimore. No,
Speaker 1: that that's cool to hear. It's been an interesting camp there.
Speaker 1: They mean, they started before some other teams because they
Speaker 1: were allowed to with the.
Speaker 3: And F game, So they've been hitting.
Speaker 1: You saw some padded practice like but you know, anyone
Speaker 1: you talk to there in terms of front office coaches
Speaker 1: talk about which players are kind of shining right now
Speaker 1: or looking bad.
Speaker 3: They're not going to say who's looking bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me tell you my list of players looking bad. No,
Speaker 5: my second note of training camp. Derrick Henry. Have you
Speaker 5: seen him in person?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Okay, so I have had never done a Titans game.
Speaker 5: I've never seen him in person. We interviewed him on Saturday.
Speaker 5: That man is huge, Like you look at him and
Speaker 5: you're like, you're a running back, Like he is just
Speaker 5: like big and thick, and it's crazy to think about
Speaker 5: what this offense is going to look like with Lamar
Speaker 5: Jackson and Derrick Henry with that one two punch, plus
Speaker 5: you know, Zay Flowers obviously is elevating in his second year.
Speaker 4: He had a great end of the year his rookie
Speaker 4: year last season.
Speaker 5: So just seeing the way that they are going to
Speaker 5: design the offense and all the different options that they have,
Speaker 5: it's going to be amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I will forget standing on the sidelines, which we are
Speaker 1: lucky enough to do when we do the London games
Speaker 1: for Sky Sports, and it was Titans Ravens last year,
Speaker 1: and so we're we're standing like right at the goal
Speaker 1: line and it just seems crazy that anyone can ever
Speaker 1: tackle that dude.
Speaker 3: And they and they did.
Speaker 1: There was a big goal line stand in the game
Speaker 1: where like it was like a car crash and you're
Speaker 1: just kind of amazed that anyone could ever tackle him.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I read that article about his diet how
Speaker 1: he doesn't eat Yeah, from the season until four or
Speaker 1: five pm and then again at eight pm.
Speaker 3: Sounds insane. How could you operate like that?
Speaker 5: That's kind of crazy. I'm like, oh, is this safe?
Speaker 5: Like can we get a nutritionist? But he I guess
Speaker 5: because the Titans used to practice like early, so he
Speaker 5: wouldn't need it right away. But I think with the
Speaker 5: Ravens they start practice at like one, he's having to
Speaker 5: eat something before. So he was telling us that he's
Speaker 5: eating these avocado spinach smoothies. He doesn't eat chicken wings
Speaker 5: or anything anymore. And off camera I was asking him
Speaker 5: about it. He's like, do you want to try one?
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah.
Speaker 5: He never brought it over, unfortunately, but he was like, honestly,
Speaker 5: I hate avocado, Like I have to drink that smoothie
Speaker 5: and like chase it with water. And I was like,
Speaker 5: if that is not dedication, Like he's doing everything he
Speaker 5: can to help this team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care how good a job you're doing
Speaker 1: interviewing me. I'm not sharing my my smoothie with you
Speaker 1: or with anyone that just doesn't say thing that you share.
Speaker 5: I guess cup hold on, hold on, he wasn't going
Speaker 5: to share his He was going to have like the
Speaker 5: trainers make us our own.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, I feel yeah for that too. But
Speaker 3: that's nice of him. He is.
Speaker 1: He's known as a nice guy. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: Cincinnati where you were today. I know, I know it
Speaker 1: was hot down there, Like, how did this offense look?
Speaker 1: I know Jamar Chase hasn't been out on the field.
Speaker 1: How did it look without him?
Speaker 5: Okay, so he's still at practice. I don't know how
Speaker 5: much you saw online or whatever. So he actually was
Speaker 5: throwing passes with Baldy. It was hilarious. Baldy was like, hey, Jamar,
Speaker 5: throw me a pass and Baldy dropped it. Baldy was like,
Speaker 5: it was my finger. I was like, you can't use
Speaker 5: that as an excuse, Baldy. But he's like in every
Speaker 5: rep right, Like he might not be playing on the field,
Speaker 5: but he's there right next to the coaches talking to
Speaker 5: the players. He's very much still involved. Like that leadership
Speaker 5: role is there. Joe Burrow looks phenomenal. I was watching
Speaker 5: him today and I was like this guy had wrist surgery.
Speaker 5: Some of the balls he was throwing. I was like, dang,
Speaker 5: those are really nice. One interesting thing from eleven on eleven,
Speaker 5: T Higgins dropped a pass like over his shoulder and
Speaker 5: he got down immediately did ten pushups, which I thought
Speaker 5: was pretty cool. Like it was a contested ball and
Speaker 5: obviously he thought he should have caught it.
Speaker 4: But that's just the dedication.
Speaker 5: You can see it from the you know, all these
Speaker 5: stars that have been together for so long. T Higgins
Speaker 5: said earlier this week that Joe Burrow looks like he
Speaker 5: did the off season going into that Super Bowl run.
Speaker 4: So take that for what it is.
Speaker 5: I think it's so important, and I don't know if
Speaker 5: we're talking about it. That he's out there during preseason. Yes,
Speaker 5: I mean his rookie year, no preseason because of COVID,
Speaker 5: and then he was coming back from an ACL he
Speaker 5: had the app and deck to me he had a
Speaker 5: calf injury.
Speaker 4: He's never completed a preseason pass.
Speaker 5: And you know, of course people say preseason and whatever,
Speaker 5: but the Bengals have struggled the past three years to
Speaker 5: start the season, they've been five and four. They've had
Speaker 5: to get themselves out of these holes in like November December,
Speaker 5: they've been able to go on runs. But imagine if
Speaker 5: they can start the season eight and oh nine to
Speaker 5: oh what is I'm.
Speaker 1: Almost afraid to talk about it because I'm with you.
Speaker 1: It's so huge and less about the preseason games and
Speaker 1: more just these practices than stacking one after another. And
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in the show he did winners and losers,
Speaker 1: and my losers are just like NFL offenses around the
Speaker 1: league are just usually struggling at this time of year.
Speaker 1: So I do note when some players coming off some
Speaker 1: struggles come out like a house on fire. And the
Speaker 1: two names probably that have stuck out the most to
Speaker 1: me of just everyone that's been there has said they've
Speaker 1: looked excellent are Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts. And so
Speaker 1: I think if you're Bengals fan, it's fine, it's fine
Speaker 1: to get excited. It's fine to get overly excited at
Speaker 1: this time of year, like you haven't had a build
Speaker 1: up like this, So that would be huge for them.
Speaker 1: And the lack of Chase gives gives Andre Yoshavas, who's
Speaker 1: the number three receiver right now, and Jermaine Burton who
Speaker 1: might be the number three receiver eventually, like more more
Speaker 1: time with Burrow, which is the worst thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Trent Irwin too, make it a place. So it'll
Speaker 5: be interesting to see because they're trying to work a
Speaker 5: couple of different guys into that slot. With obviously Tyler
Speaker 5: Boyd gone. They need to figure out who's going to
Speaker 5: be that number three. So that's that's really important this
Speaker 5: time of year.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm tempted.
Speaker 1: I do think maybe it's the it's a year for
Speaker 1: one of the other af C, but the one one
Speaker 1: of them that I'm debating, But no, I was high
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. I had them going to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl going into last year. But this year, I think
Speaker 1: Bills are Bengals. I'm I'm debatings.
Speaker 5: See I'm obviously just coming from Baltimore, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: nobody can stop these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the those are those are the four?
Speaker 1: Head wait till that we know one of those four
Speaker 1: and it's probably not going to be the Chiefs will
Speaker 1: disappoint because that's just like that's how the.
Speaker 3: NFL is going to get You.
Speaker 1: Never disappoint though, Bridget thank you for joining me, and
Speaker 1: thanks We're gonna try to get you in the show
Speaker 1: when you're back in the studio, but enjoy the rest
Speaker 1: of inside training camp. I know you will be on
Speaker 1: the road the next week and a half. Like most
Speaker 1: of NFL Network, we will be on the road on Monday,
Speaker 1: but just down the road and Elsa Gundo talking to
Speaker 1: the Chargers.
Speaker 3: Until then been NFL Daily. We'll see you next thing.