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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always trying to get

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Speaker 1: Rod tidwell paid. It's twenty twenty four, Show me the

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Speaker 1: Money still alive, and so is Patrick. Claybond so lucky

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Speaker 1: to be joined by him today from a hotel room

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati where he covered the Bengals and he's running

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Speaker 1: all over the country. Patrick, I'm excited for this show

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Speaker 1: this weekend, like I've been prepping all weekend to give

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Speaker 1: the listeners as many winners and losers as possible. I've

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Speaker 1: been reading way too many camp reports, watching way too

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Speaker 1: much ITC So I hope you're ready.

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Speaker 2: I love that you try to pawn it off as like, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is a rarity. I'm not one hundred percent plugged

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Speaker 2: into all this stuff anyway, and I'm doing this reason.

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Speaker 2: This is just this is just Greg. This is Greg

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Speaker 2: and his natural habitat.

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Speaker 3: I love it fair.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we haven't always had these Sunday night shows,

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Speaker 1: and it reminded me. I used to do these articles

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Speaker 1: like sixty four things you know we learned from training

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Speaker 1: camp over the last week or whatever, and so that's

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Speaker 1: how I'm viewing these Sunday night shows, kind of catching

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Speaker 1: up on everything that's been going on while everyone else

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Speaker 1: is paying attention to the Olympics and you don't have

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Speaker 1: time to check out you know what Pewterreport dot com

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Speaker 1: is saying about the Bucks, or some radio stations saying

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Speaker 3: So we hope to get you covered.

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Speaker 1: With all the news big and small, the winners and

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Speaker 1: the losers, and but before that, I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: want to get to one health note, which the Patriots

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Speaker 1: announced Sunday evening that Christian Barmore, who I believe is

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Speaker 1: their best player right now overall best defensive player, is

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Speaker 1: not with the team right now, suffering with blood clots.

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Speaker 1: He is out indefinitely. So I just want to wish him,

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Speaker 1: you know, a speedy recovery. And they didn't say anything

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Speaker 1: It's obviously very serious issue and glad that they caught it,

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Speaker 1: so hope he as well. Let's get to the winners

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Speaker 1: and the losers.

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Speaker 3: Patrick.

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Speaker 1: And since we last taped Tua Tongue of Iloi's contract

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Speaker 1: got done, which I was excited about and Tua was

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Speaker 1: also excited about. While talking to Dolphin's crowd on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: About Patrick's got his hands over his.

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Speaker 2: Second hand embarrassment. Is is really something And I know

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Speaker 2: it was a dare for Tua to say that, but

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Speaker 2: still that is so not him, right, like whatever whatever

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Speaker 2: you think. And to people who don't know, because like

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Rod Tipple and yeah, I don't even know

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Speaker 2: the math on how long ago, Jerry maguire, we're are.

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Speaker 1: We in there was nineteen ninety six, So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Tua was alive or he was maybe just born.

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Speaker 2: But that's how it used to be before meme culture.

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Speaker 2: Like we would have a movie and then there would

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Speaker 2: repeat it for years and years, and that was the

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Speaker 2: We were talking about it last time. We were in

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Speaker 2: great here in Cincinnati. But that was my question to you,

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Speaker 2: like why not just why not just pay him now

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Speaker 2: and save the money in the hashole. You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to do it anyway, and here we are.

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Speaker 1: I was wrong being skeptical of this. I'll own my

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Speaker 1: bad takes and it wasn't that this would never happen.

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Speaker 1: But he got all the money. They showed him the

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Speaker 1: money and yeah, no, I shout out. You know that movie,

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Speaker 1: that quote has stood the test of time. I love

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Speaker 1: that it's still making waves. But it makes more sense

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Speaker 1: when you find out, yes, the offensive coordinator, Darryl Bevel

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Speaker 1: that's a big thing to give up. Sugar is in everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fruit function. I mean, there's he's got to

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Speaker 1: Right, Oranges like have tons and tons of sugar. But

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Speaker 1: It was less than a year ago at this time

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Speaker 1: to get to this point, Mike McDaniel said, it's why

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Speaker 1: excited Tyreek Hill was when he was on NFL Network

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Speaker 1: with our cam Wolf. And we'll get to the money

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, ultimately, the thing about Tula, right is

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Speaker 2: having that conversation publicly, and so you're you're you're getting

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Speaker 2: like coming back from the hip, right he's had the concussions.

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Speaker 2: There were so many things that happened to back to

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Speaker 2: that a lot of those things are met with skepticism

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he landed in the perfect situation. But

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel went there for a vision because he knew

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Speaker 1: that Tua was perfect for what he's going to do.

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Speaker 1: That's football is finding the right coach with the right quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And it happened. And I know they're I'm not that

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Speaker 1: But when you look at where the guarantees stop. First

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Speaker 3: Let's get to another winner.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw out two to start, which is Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: because you know these two deals go together. What was

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Speaker 1: your reaction Patrick when the Jordan Love contract went down?

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Speaker 2: Literally the same exact reaction that I had with the

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Speaker 2: to A deal. And we've seen it right play out,

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Speaker 2: especially if you look at Davante and Aaron's like their

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Speaker 2: Like the team specifically, it seemed like there was a

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Speaker 2: desire to play hardball right with these franchise cornerstones, and

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Speaker 2: they had an opportunity here with Jordan Love And I

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Speaker 2: the price is only going to go up, Like if

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Speaker 2: facilitate a successful team here in twenty twenty four, the

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Speaker 2: makes sense to go now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised how much pushback this got of

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Speaker 1: like he's only done it for eight or nine games, Like,

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Speaker 1: what a risk. But people said the same thing when

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's see how that worked out.

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Speaker 1: People got annoyed when they actually gave him the two

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Speaker 1: a little bit risky? Like guaranteeing him money into twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. They have him in the building every single day.

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Speaker 1: They know exactly how he fits with this coach who's

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Speaker 1: one of the best offensive coach in the league. Like

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Speaker 3: They know everything about him.

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Speaker 1: If you can't see with your own eyes how good

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Speaker 1: oh man, that was a bad Jordan Love game, like

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Speaker 2: And I'm I want to see Jordan Love taking risks

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Speaker 2: like Jordan Love turning the ball, Like how many times

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Speaker 2: do we see Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball away? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He the touchdown interception ratio was crazy, But ultimately you

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Speaker 2: and Jordan Love absolutely can and will do that. And

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Speaker 2: if they like we've seen the team flame out late.

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Speaker 2: We saw it with a guy who's going to the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and so this talk about pressure and

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Speaker 2: throughout all of that, why not, And I think it

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Speaker 2: made perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody right, And in terms of underpaid, like quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are going to take a huge portion of the salary cap.

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Speaker 1: That's just how it is. It's not a higher portion

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Speaker 1: right now than it used to be. It's just that

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Speaker 1: the salary cap has gone up and Jordan Love's contract,

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Speaker 1: like all these are going to look totally different in

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Speaker 1: two or three years. And if we really want to

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Speaker 1: get into it, you know, we're we're team America, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're into capitalism. But if this was a

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Speaker 1: plus a year. I have no question, Like, how much

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Speaker 1: would Patrick Mahomes make if there was no salary cap?

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Speaker 1: if there was no salary cap. It's a conversation for

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Speaker 1: another day, But to me, he would be They would

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Speaker 3: Throw out a winner.

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Speaker 1: Get deep into the weeds camp notes. You were in Denver,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I want to start on the left coast.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in Kyle Pitts as an early winner,

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Speaker 2: right where you have quarterbacks who are later on in

435
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Speaker 2: their career, who have had all the success that they

436
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: can well, you know, Kirk Cousins come up short a

437
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: couple times, but he's had playoff success as well, and

438
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: they get a chance to pick a very good spot.

439
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: And we've seen guys just when you have that opportunity

440
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: to pick your team, you normally do it for a reason,

441
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: and these guys have found themselves in pretty good spot.

442
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't mean I'm like just assuming they're the

443
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: same guys because that was on that is on my radar,

444
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: but just the first I think test being passed that okay,

445
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: no red flags here. While I'm talking about it, might

446
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: as well not delay. Like offenses are are losers around

447
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: the league, like just as someone who is going through

448
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: all these reports, like everyone is concerned that their offense thinks,

449
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: and so I think it's just what happens when you

450
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: can't really block as an offensive lineman the first week.

451
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: And granted most of these offenses might stink in the

452
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: regular season that have been really strugging the Patriots, the Giants,

453
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Jaguars. I've seen just a lot. Jaguars

454
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: are a little surprising that it's just every day. They're like,

455
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: the defense is absolutely dominating Trevor Lawrence and there's been

456
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions there. But I just think it's

457
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Speaker 1: it's partly it's that time of year that it's just

458
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: it's difficult and some takeaways from there, but like overall,

459
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to get too panicky.

460
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very very early and it's very very difficult,

461
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: right considering that the stakes and a lot of stuff.

462
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: You know, people will see like seven on seven stuff

463
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: where you could take it either way. Right, it's like,

464
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: oh gosh, we can't cover anybody. But I was watching

465
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: a rep this afternoon where Trenton Irwin is getting is

466
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: getting open and like there's there's decent coverage and Joe

467
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: Burrow just puts the ball in a great spot and

468
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: it's like, well, so how are we marking that there's

469
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: no pass rush and you've got a guy that can

470
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Speaker 2: you know, throw the ball wherever he wants. So it's

471
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Speaker 2: it's very difficult to evaluate like offense defense right now, everybody.

472
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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe maybe I'm over. I'm over.

473
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Speaker 1: No, I'm just definitely what we're trying to say in

474
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: all these places, like, okay, just calm down. It's it's

475
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: okay that the Patriots offense is not working against a

476
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Speaker 1: defense that's been together.

477
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Speaker 3: It's not at Matt Patricia levels. All right, what do

478
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Speaker 3: you got for me?

479
00:23:53,240 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: Patrick? Anthony Richardson looks great, he looks spectacular. I was

480
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: able to watch a little bit of him going four

481
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: for four in a team session, just moving great ball,

482
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: has great velocity coming. It's it's all the things that

483
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 2: we saw in those four games. And he's back, he's healthy,

484
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna be even better.

485
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: I love that one.

486
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I do love He's another guy that because

487
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Speaker 1: he missed a couple of days in Ots that you

488
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: were I was a little worried about coming into camp

489
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: and it's been all systems go. They're not putting Adie

490
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: Mitchell ahead of Alec Pierce yet. That that's something to

491
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: watch as.

492
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: We I think they got to get them on the field.

493
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's early. It's early.

494
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: I am going to give a loser despite just saying

495
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: that we should be patient, with the offenses in terms

496
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: of like performance and just say hearing that Daniel Jones

497
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: just hasn't been accurate and is underthrowing everything. That's a

498
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: little different to me than the offense totally struggling as

499
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Speaker 1: a whole, that that they're trying to go deep all

500
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: the time and he has just been off target again

501
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: five weeks till the regular season starts. But it's one

502
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: thing I always worry about with the guy coming off

503
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: with torn acl Sometimes it messes with your mechanics and

504
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: your accuracy and in just your throwing motion. And it

505
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: just reportedly hasn't been great in New York pretty consistently

506
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: throughout the start of camp. The positive is that Neighbors

507
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: is like always open and maybe he's just too hard

508
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: not to underthrow, because that's every every day. It's like, oh,

509
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: Neighbors had to come back for a pass that Daniel

510
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: Dunes underthrown and Daniad Jones has a big arm or

511
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: he had you know, he had a good arm. That's

512
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: not a concern to me, But that's the positive. His

513
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: Neighbors is supportively supposedly wrecking shop every practice, But Danion

514
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: Jones struggling and drew Locke also struggling.

515
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: So it's just a struggle fest.

516
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 2: And maybe you know, if we're gonna miss, now's the

517
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: time to miss, right. I get a chance to work

518
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: on things. And perhaps there's hope for Dimes after all.

519
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: Who knows knows. But yeah, it's a watching the elite

520
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 2: neighbors basically stopping look like a fair catch was not

521
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: not inspired.

522
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: No, and but it is exciting to hear the way

523
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: that they're talking about neighbors there that just like he

524
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: wants the ball, they are insisting on.

525
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: Getting him the ball.

526
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Speaker 1: A couple guys, I'm going to give his winners that

527
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: might be getting the ball a little more out of

528
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: the backfield. Taysom Hill lining up as a running back

529
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: and a full back quite a bit. I just like

530
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: that as a full back. Let's go Taysom Hill full

531
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: back days. And then I'm buying in on the Damian

532
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: Pierce resurgence season. He does pass the test for me

533
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: of like he has been good in the NFL. We've

534
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: seen it with our eyes. And he talked about maybe

535
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't in like perfect shape last year and just

536
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: learning some things and had some injuries and Joe Mixon

537
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: hasn't really practiced at all at Texans camp, and he's

538
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: an aging player with a lot of miles on him.

539
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: I'm not going to push the panic button there, but

540
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: that could happen during the season, and everyone who's been

541
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: at practice just says, oh, Pierce looks like he's back

542
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: to being the old Pier.

543
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: So I'm buying back in on Damian Pierce.

544
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: He's trying harder Joe Mixon camp, and he's motivated now.

545
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: Thing to do with him being I don't think it's.

546
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: He says, he's thin, Uh, you got any more for us?

547
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: I got? I got a handful of little ones to come.

548
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's odd because Trent Brown isn't isn't practicing right now,

549
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: but Amarius Mims comes in. And that's one thing that

550
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor has has said, when you have all these

551
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: veterans right, like, you don't need to teach Jamar Chase

552
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: right how to play football, like, you don't have to

553
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: coach guys up when you've got guys that have been

554
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: around for a long time. So I think Amarius Mims

555
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: getting more time, uh plan playing tackle is good for

556
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

557
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: How was the how are the vibes there since he the.

558
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: Vibes are immaculate. There's you know, I saw a kid

559
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: with the blonde hair today. Apparently that's going to be

560
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: a thing. I mean, Joe's probably going to grow it out.

561
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 3: And no, Jamar Chase, that's still a thing. But that's okay.

562
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm hearing some andre yoshavaspazz that that's fun.

563
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jermaine Burton as well. I think I think receivers. Uh,

564
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: the team. The team looks great. It's just going to

565
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: be a question of how they stay together. Is Joe

566
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: healthy and back? But compared to Denver, there's a notable

567
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: difference when you have a franchise quarterback and you're watching practice.

568
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say I watched like that Sean peyton

569
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: opening press conference freaked me out more than anything. He

570
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: just didn't seem happy to be there. He was like

571
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: it was like he had just walked off the field

572
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: of a forty one to seven loss and it was

573
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Speaker 1: the first day of training.

574
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: Game I watched.

575
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: I ended up watching work as someone told me, like,

576
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: just watch this thing, and it's I don't know, it's

577
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: almost like he.

578
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: He's not I don't know, he's giving me parcels.

579
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Like in Dallas late or maybe parcels as an executive

580
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: in Miami vibes.

581
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: But that's we'll see, that's not fair.

582
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just waiting for the winds to come. There

583
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: was a great he did have a great moment that

584
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: not a lot of people picked up on. It was

585
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: it was on Friday, I believe somebody asked about his

586
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks execution. He said he was for it, and there

587
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: were only like a couple laughs, and I'm like, wait, guys,

588
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: like got to give that some pop.

589
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: Yes, that is a classic reference. Good job by Sean

590
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Payton to John McKay who said that back in the

591
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: day when he was running the expansion Bucks, who were

592
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: on just a brutal, brutal stretch. I think they're probably

593
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: there as the worst team maybe in NFL history. They

594
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: were in the mix a couple quick winners and losers.

595
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Winner Jake Bates you might not know him, but he's

596
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: the UFL legend who had never kicked a field goal

597
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: in a game until he kicked a sixty four yard

598
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: field goal in the UFL. This is not an exaggeration, Patrick,

599
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm not talking professional. He had never kicked one in

600
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: high school or college or professional. He was on some

601
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: college teams but never got beyond being the backup. I

602
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: think he came from a soccer background and he got

603
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: a shot in the UFL and hit two sixty four

604
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: yarders and now he's on the Lions. And unfortunately because

605
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: Michael Badgeley taurus hamstring and is out for the season.

606
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: The positive spin is this kid Baits is going to

607
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: get the job. Most likely. He's looked good at camp

608
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: and so it's a fun story. A guy who literally

609
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: had never kicked a ball in a game until a

610
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: few months ago. Dreams are made in the UFL. I'm

611
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: going to throw out some losers to cornerbacks. Cornerback injuries,

612
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: Chadobi a woozy. I think it was a calf injury early.

613
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: This was a I know, I'm not taking a victory lap.

614
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: It's way too early, obviously. But this was maybe the

615
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: most curious contract in all of free agency. A guy

616
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: who just did not look right coming off his torn

617
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: ACL last year had to get bench with Cincinnati, and

618
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: then they gave him a huge contract in Tennessee. So

619
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: I hope he can get better. Marshawn Lattimore a hit

620
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: pointer the Vikings cornerbacks Shaq Griffin has now joined Mackay

621
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Blackman on the sideline. Blackman's going to miss the season,

622
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: Shack Griffin, it's not going to be that long or anything.

623
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: But they're starting right now at practice Andrew Booth and

624
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Duke Shelley who was just signed a couple of days ago,

625
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: and so that that's tough for the Vikings and the

626
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: Rams have Darius Williams on the shelf after they all

627
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: already lost a cornerback. So injuries, unfortunately, are kind of

628
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: the most noteworthy thing this time of year. You hate

629
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: to see that, but especially Vikings Rams. And I'll keep

630
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: an eye on Latimer because he's only right when you

631
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: know he can be the best player at cornerback in

632
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: the league. But when he's hurt, it's just not the same.

633
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: It's a bad start to his season.

634
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta get him. It's just especially when you

635
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: think back about how good that draft class was and

636
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 2: how they're they're they're kind of falling, you know, by

637
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: the wayside, and it's like twenty seventeen wasn't that long ago.

638
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: But you start looking at the clock and we got

639
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: some miles, We got some miles piling.

640
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Up, You got any more you want to squeeze in

641
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Before we get to Bridget Connon, who also is Cincinnati,

642
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to get some Bengals Ravens takeaways from her.

643
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm all positive, Greg. I mean, I didn't.

644
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: It's really tough. It's tough, like I wasn't gonna go

645
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: negative Bonnicks and making a positive on Jared Stidham. You know,

646
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: it's all right.

647
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I'll throw out some more positives then you want me

648
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: you have do you have more positives?

649
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin coming back looking looking healthier and better. I

650
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: think the the Evans and Baker situation, everybody coming back.

651
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a bounce back

652
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: year for Chris Godwin in Tampa Bay. I like it.

653
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: I like the Bucks in the South.

654
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Okay uh and yeah, they they used it more in

655
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: the slot last year.

656
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: I think he totally works there.

657
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: They signed McMillan, who from Washington, who's getting some buzz

658
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: early in camp. He I thought about him for one

659
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: of these nuggets. And so you had Trey Palmer, who

660
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: did some things as a rookie. It that's a sneaky

661
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: great receiver group. If McMillan is as good as they like. Again,

662
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: pads haven't come on, but that that is a pretty

663
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: great receiver group.

664
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Speaker 3: I'll go positive too.

665
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, number one, I've heard just insane things about

666
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: Gino in practice so far.

667
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: I don't even want to get excited.

668
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: So someone wrote they've never seen a Seahawks quarterback start

669
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: camp this well, I was like, Okay, I don't want

670
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: to get too carried away, but their o. C Ryan Grubb,

671
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: the way he talks about Gino is just like one

672
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: of the most natural throwers of the ball that he

673
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: has ever seen, and really is making Grub look better

674
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: with all the protections he does. Excited about that. Justin

675
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: Field's getting all the first team reps. It's not a

676
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: bad thing for him, even if he's not going to

677
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: win the starting job like he has now had almost

678
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: a week of starter reps at Steelers camp because Russell

679
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Wilson's still not back from that calf injury. And then

680
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: last one is Kingsley Sue Matteya, the Chiefs left tackle.

681
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Looks like the second round pick is going to be

682
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: their left tackle, so we don't know for sure, but

683
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: he's getting all the reps with the first team right now,

684
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: and so that is a big spot protecting Patrick Mahomes.

685
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: If you want to jump on Gino or fields, let

686
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: me know. If not, you know, I'll let you free

687
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: into the Cincinnati night. What do we got going on there?

688
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's some sort of festival are going

689
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: on downtown, so maybe I'll know. I'll get out here

690
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: and see some vendors and yeah, the I think, Greg,

691
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be cautious with your optimism for Gino Smith.

692
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: I just don't want it to be in every show thing.

693
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks people are getting me getting me excited

694
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: right now.

695
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean Gino was getting them excited, So it's excitement

696
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: all around.

697
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: It kind of makes sense like he had to survive

698
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: this offseason. He lost his guy and Pete Carroll. In

699
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: the way his contract was set up in the draft,

700
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: you could have gone sideways for him in terms of

701
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: keeping that job, but he did keep it. And I mean,

702
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: talk about best shape of your life. Just look at

703
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Gino right now. He just looks like a different person.

704
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: It's his third year there. He's got a very creative

705
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: offensive coach. He's got a group around him that is primed.

706
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's prime DK. You get the second year

707
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: of Smith and Jigba, who's going to be better and

708
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: it's just this is his year, I think to have

709
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: like his best year is right now.

710
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: Gina Smith, there it is. I think it's I think

711
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: the West is going to be fun. I got Kyler

712
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: down as a winner as well. It just did. There's

713
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: there's a there's an excitement, there's a juice there that

714
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: they haven't had in a while. The division is going

715
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: to be fun to see.

716
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: There was a report how he didn't feel that his

717
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: lateral agility. See this is where reading all those team

718
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: reports are coming in handy. He didn't feel like he

719
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: really had that last year. He could run straight and

720
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: you saw that you could still run, but he couldn't

721
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: really do the joking that that he is known to do.

722
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: And he says, that's all the way back now and

723
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: you can really see it in practice. So that that's

724
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: a good shout to finish up our winners and losers.

725
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: You're always a winner, Patrick. Check them out on Inside

726
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: Training Camp Live all week on NFL Network. We are

727
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: really doing it big this week and Patrick is in

728
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: the middle of it. We'll see you later, Buddy, and

729
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Bridget Conan is coming back after the break talk.

730
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: Little Bengals and ratings sucret back on NFL Daily and.

731
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: Back for Bengals practice. It's one of our best reporters

732
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: at NFL Network. It's Bridget Condon.

733
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Speaker 4: Wow, what an intro.

734
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: I know she's straight off the field into your hotel room.

735
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: I know how it is these ITC days. I don't

736
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: really know how it is, but I can imagine you

737
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: are in Baltimore for a couple of nights, you fly

738
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: into Cincinnati, Like, what is your level of frazzled right now?

739
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: Well, first, I just want to announce like, welcome to

740
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: my crib MTV cribs, because I'm like, I feel like

741
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 5: I'm letting you into my bedroom. Love that I am

742
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 5: happy that this is a video and not us together

743
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: because I smell awful because I was just in the

744
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 5: blazing sun for like six hours.

745
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, my brain fried.

746
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 5: I literally went to Chick fil A yesterday and the

747
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 5: cashier was like, Okay, that's gonna be sixteen dollars and

748
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, thanks, and she's like staring at me,

749
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 5: and I'm staring at her, and she's like, you have

750
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 5: to pay now. And I was like, oh, got it.

751
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: I was talking to Eric DaCosta and he was He's

752
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: from Massachusetts and I was like, oh, I'm from Massachusetts too,

753
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 5: and he was like what city. I was like, Massachusetts,

754
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 5: So that's where I'm at.

755
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: That it is hot at that Baltimore training camp. I've

756
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: been there, and that'll that'll fry your brain. But yeah,

757
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: I love love that. Bridget's on another masshole like me.

758
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, you spent a couple of days with the Ravens.

759
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: What were your takeaways? I know Lamar must you must

760
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: have missed Lamar one day and then he finally returned

761
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: from his his sickness. Yeah, what was your thoughts seeing

762
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: seven the Ravens for a couple of days?

763
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 5: So initial thoughts here, Lamar Jackson running out on the

764
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 5: field on Saturday was one of the coolest experience. And

765
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people want us to get

766
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 5: into football, and we'll get there. But I just have

767
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 5: to say there were fifty youth football teams in attendance, boys, tackle, girls,

768
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: flag football.

769
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: The way that these kids all.

770
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: Went absolutely insane when Lamar ran by them and then

771
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: they're like all running to the fence where they you know,

772
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 5: fans can go up to and he comes over in

773
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 5: waves and these kids are screaming their heads off, which to.

774
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: Me is just a cool, cool moment.

775
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: Lamar is so inspirational, especially to young kids in Baltimore,

776
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 5: and to see that in person, that's what training camp

777
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: is all about. I know that it's important for you know,

778
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: the players to get into football shape, but that was

779
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 5: so cool.

780
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: It gave me chills.

781
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

782
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a player now that OBJ

783
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: is not who he once was that connects with fans. Yeah,

784
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: in the same way that Lamar does. Mahomes certainly, but

785
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: he almost just seems like he's on another planet and

786
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: somehow Lamar is like one of them, especially in Baltimore. No,

787
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: that that's cool to hear. It's been an interesting camp there.

788
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: They mean, they started before some other teams because they

789
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: were allowed to with the.

790
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: And F game, So they've been hitting.

791
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: You saw some padded practice like but you know, anyone

792
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: you talk to there in terms of front office coaches

793
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: talk about which players are kind of shining right now

794
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 1: or looking bad.

795
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: They're not going to say who's looking bad.

796
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me tell you my list of players looking bad. No,

797
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 5: my second note of training camp. Derrick Henry. Have you

798
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 5: seen him in person?

799
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

800
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 5: Okay, so I have had never done a Titans game.

801
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: I've never seen him in person. We interviewed him on Saturday.

802
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 5: That man is huge, Like you look at him and

803
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: you're like, you're a running back, Like he is just

804
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 5: like big and thick, and it's crazy to think about

805
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 5: what this offense is going to look like with Lamar

806
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 5: Jackson and Derrick Henry with that one two punch, plus

807
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 5: you know, Zay Flowers obviously is elevating in his second year.

808
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: He had a great end of the year his rookie

809
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: year last season.

810
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 5: So just seeing the way that they are going to

811
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: design the offense and all the different options that they have,

812
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 5: it's going to be amazing.

813
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

814
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: I will forget standing on the sidelines, which we are

815
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: lucky enough to do when we do the London games

816
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: for Sky Sports, and it was Titans Ravens last year,

817
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: and so we're we're standing like right at the goal

818
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: line and it just seems crazy that anyone can ever

819
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: tackle that dude.

820
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: And they and they did.

821
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: There was a big goal line stand in the game

822
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: where like it was like a car crash and you're

823
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: just kind of amazed that anyone could ever tackle him.

824
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, I read that article about his diet how

825
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't eat Yeah, from the season until four or

826
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Speaker 1: five pm and then again at eight pm.

827
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Speaker 3: Sounds insane. How could you operate like that?

828
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: That's kind of crazy. I'm like, oh, is this safe?

829
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 5: Like can we get a nutritionist? But he I guess

830
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 5: because the Titans used to practice like early, so he

831
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 5: wouldn't need it right away. But I think with the

832
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 5: Ravens they start practice at like one, he's having to

833
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 5: eat something before. So he was telling us that he's

834
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: eating these avocado spinach smoothies. He doesn't eat chicken wings

835
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: or anything anymore. And off camera I was asking him

836
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 5: about it. He's like, do you want to try one?

837
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah.

838
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 5: He never brought it over, unfortunately, but he was like, honestly,

839
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 5: I hate avocado, Like I have to drink that smoothie

840
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 5: and like chase it with water. And I was like,

841
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: if that is not dedication, Like he's doing everything he

842
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: can to help this team.

843
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care how good a job you're doing

844
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: interviewing me. I'm not sharing my my smoothie with you

845
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: or with anyone that just doesn't say thing that you share.

846
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: I guess cup hold on, hold on, he wasn't going

847
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 5: to share his He was going to have like the

848
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: trainers make us our own.

849
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, I feel yeah for that too. But

850
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: that's nice of him. He is.

851
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: He's known as a nice guy. Let's move on to

852
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: Cincinnati where you were today. I know, I know it

853
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: was hot down there, Like, how did this offense look?

854
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: I know Jamar Chase hasn't been out on the field.

855
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: How did it look without him?

856
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: Okay, so he's still at practice. I don't know how

857
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 5: much you saw online or whatever. So he actually was

858
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: throwing passes with Baldy. It was hilarious. Baldy was like, hey, Jamar,

859
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 5: throw me a pass and Baldy dropped it. Baldy was like,

860
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 5: it was my finger. I was like, you can't use

861
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 5: that as an excuse, Baldy. But he's like in every

862
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 5: rep right, Like he might not be playing on the field,

863
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: but he's there right next to the coaches talking to

864
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 5: the players. He's very much still involved. Like that leadership

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Speaker 5: role is there. Joe Burrow looks phenomenal. I was watching

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Speaker 5: him today and I was like this guy had wrist surgery.

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Speaker 5: Some of the balls he was throwing. I was like, dang,

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Speaker 5: those are really nice. One interesting thing from eleven on eleven,

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Speaker 5: T Higgins dropped a pass like over his shoulder and

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Speaker 5: he got down immediately did ten pushups, which I thought

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Speaker 5: was pretty cool. Like it was a contested ball and

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Speaker 5: obviously he thought he should have caught it.

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Speaker 4: But that's just the dedication.

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Speaker 5: You can see it from the you know, all these

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Speaker 5: stars that have been together for so long. T Higgins

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Speaker 5: said earlier this week that Joe Burrow looks like he

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Speaker 5: did the off season going into that Super Bowl run.

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Speaker 4: So take that for what it is.

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Speaker 5: I think it's so important, and I don't know if

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Speaker 5: we're talking about it. That he's out there during preseason. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I mean his rookie year, no preseason because of COVID,

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Speaker 5: and then he was coming back from an ACL he

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Speaker 5: had the app and deck to me he had a

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Speaker 5: calf injury.

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Speaker 4: He's never completed a preseason pass.

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Speaker 5: And you know, of course people say preseason and whatever,

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Speaker 5: but the Bengals have struggled the past three years to

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Speaker 5: start the season, they've been five and four. They've had

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Speaker 5: to get themselves out of these holes in like November December,

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Speaker 5: they've been able to go on runs. But imagine if

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Speaker 5: they can start the season eight and oh nine to

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Speaker 5: oh what is I'm.

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Speaker 1: Almost afraid to talk about it because I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: It's so huge and less about the preseason games and

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Speaker 1: more just these practices than stacking one after another. And

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in the show he did winners and losers,

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Speaker 1: and my losers are just like NFL offenses around the

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Speaker 1: league are just usually struggling at this time of year.

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Speaker 1: So I do note when some players coming off some

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Speaker 1: struggles come out like a house on fire. And the

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Speaker 1: two names probably that have stuck out the most to

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Speaker 1: me of just everyone that's been there has said they've

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Speaker 1: looked excellent are Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts. And so

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Speaker 1: I think if you're Bengals fan, it's fine, it's fine

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Speaker 1: to get excited. It's fine to get overly excited at

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Speaker 1: this time of year, like you haven't had a build

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Speaker 1: up like this, So that would be huge for them.

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Speaker 1: And the lack of Chase gives gives Andre Yoshavas, who's

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Speaker 1: the number three receiver right now, and Jermaine Burton who

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Speaker 1: might be the number three receiver eventually, like more more

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Speaker 1: time with Burrow, which is the worst thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Trent Irwin too, make it a place. So it'll

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Speaker 5: be interesting to see because they're trying to work a

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Speaker 5: couple of different guys into that slot. With obviously Tyler

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Speaker 5: Boyd gone. They need to figure out who's going to

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Speaker 5: be that number three. So that's that's really important this

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Speaker 5: time of year.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm tempted.

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Speaker 1: I do think maybe it's the it's a year for

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Speaker 1: one of the other af C, but the one one

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Speaker 1: of them that I'm debating, But no, I was high

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Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. I had them going to the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl going into last year. But this year, I think

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Speaker 1: Bills are Bengals. I'm I'm debatings.

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Speaker 5: See I'm obviously just coming from Baltimore, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: nobody can stop these guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the those are those are the four?

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Speaker 1: Head wait till that we know one of those four

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Speaker 1: and it's probably not going to be the Chiefs will

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Speaker 1: disappoint because that's just like that's how the.

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Speaker 3: NFL is going to get You.

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Speaker 1: Never disappoint though, Bridget thank you for joining me, and

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Speaker 1: thanks We're gonna try to get you in the show

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Speaker 1: when you're back in the studio, but enjoy the rest

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Speaker 1: of inside training camp. I know you will be on

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Speaker 1: the road the next week and a half. Like most

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Speaker 1: of NFL Network, we will be on the road on Monday,

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Speaker 1: but just down the road and Elsa Gundo talking to

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Speaker 1: the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Until then been NFL Daily. We'll see you next thing.