Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio of the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe Kaddy arm Strong
Speaker 1: and Jack Kid and he.
Speaker 2: Arm who live from studio scene, say to Wednesday, are
Speaker 2: you excited at that halfway did the finish line?
Speaker 3: Or I'm strong and getting in a dimly lit room
Speaker 3: using in the bowels of our entire compound and torming
Speaker 3: you for hours to come.
Speaker 1: And today we're under the food ledge of our general manager.
Speaker 3: Let's go with Sonny Williams and Butch will Moore, the
Speaker 3: recently returned astronauts.
Speaker 1: There as two of them.
Speaker 3: There indeed were two of them. There are two of
Speaker 3: them there continue to be two of them.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they're the ones that I saw land in
Speaker 1: the ocean last night.
Speaker 3: That is correct. Well, plucky, plucky gal, plucky guy. It's
Speaker 3: amazing what nine months in space due to you, though,
Speaker 3: I mean they are weak, weak acts. They ought to
Speaker 3: get to They're tough enough. Zero gravity, your muscles wither
Speaker 3: away and your bones get less dense, and your eyeballs
Speaker 3: are prone to floating out of their sockets on their
Speaker 3: day last part up.
Speaker 1: But it's it's rough on a human being.
Speaker 3: Which brings to mind jack the illumined question, how the
Speaker 3: hell can we get somebody to Mars and have them
Speaker 3: be anything other than just a glob of jelly isometric exercises,
Speaker 3: That's what I say.
Speaker 4: Well, I was listening to an old astronautic who said
Speaker 4: you recover pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: So but uh yeah, I heard Elon.
Speaker 4: We got some clips that Elan, he didn't interview last night,
Speaker 4: talking about going to Mars.
Speaker 1: Quite the deal. I hope I live long enough to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 4: He said, twenty to twenty to thirty years before there's
Speaker 4: like a space station there. I don't know when he's
Speaker 4: expecting to actually have a human being just go there.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any plan to come back, right.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, a space station manned by humans there, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's the whole point.
Speaker 4: He's so much for robotics these days. No, Elon that, well,
Speaker 4: that wouldn't do us any good. Elon's entire point is
Speaker 4: that we need to be the first species, probably in
Speaker 4: the universe, to be multiplanetary. He believes if there has
Speaker 4: ever been other intelligent life, it's because it died out
Speaker 4: because it was on one planet. Eventually, a planet dies
Speaker 4: out for a number of reasons or destroys itself or whatever.
Speaker 4: You need to be multiplanetary to continue as a species,
Speaker 4: and the only way to do that is to get
Speaker 4: to Mars and have people there also.
Speaker 3: Well, that's this is why you're not in charge of
Speaker 3: the program. To dismiss my ideas. That wouldn't do any good.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: The robots would get there and build the facilities that
Speaker 3: were need it well, so the humans could move in.
Speaker 3: It's like a move in ready condo on Mars. The
Speaker 3: robots would put up the wallpaper and paint and rearrange
Speaker 3: the furniture a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Still they're happy with it.
Speaker 4: I know I'm not gonna live long enough for this.
Speaker 4: This is the part I would really like to see.
Speaker 4: Is you get enough people up there that you start
Speaker 4: to have a society that then has exactly the same
Speaker 4: problems we've had here on Earth. And then maybe everybody
Speaker 4: finally realizes once and for all, it's just freaking human nature.
Speaker 1: Wait what, I'm making a Macaulay Culkin face.
Speaker 3: There wasn't a Trump on Mars that caused people to
Speaker 3: act this way or something else, right, that would be something,
Speaker 3: wouldn't it if if that just brought us like an
Speaker 3: extra year and a half after Earth destroys itself.
Speaker 1: The people on Mars are doing exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna have the first crime on Earth first,
Speaker 3: or on Mars the first time somebody you know comes
Speaker 3: back in and their uh, I don't know, their gyroscope
Speaker 3: is missing. And Fred's first crime first murder first, you know,
Speaker 3: out of wedlock, baby whatever. Sure, somebody gets a little
Speaker 3: drunk on space rum and takes a swing at somebody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you'll have to have a space jail.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if people understand that that's happening,
Speaker 4: and you know, speaking to that, clearly, politics or space
Speaker 4: has been politicized now in the way that everything else
Speaker 4: is politicized. The coverage of yesterday's Return of the Astronauts
Speaker 4: depend on what channel you were watching.
Speaker 1: They either mentioned elon Musk, space X and.
Speaker 4: All that endlessly or they mentioned it not at all,
Speaker 4: depending on the channel the channel you were watching. Because
Speaker 4: space has become politicized just.
Speaker 1: Like everything else.
Speaker 3: I was actually mildly surprised to see ABC News in
Speaker 3: a bit of detail go over the whole Boeing swung
Speaker 3: and missed and SpaceX succeeded.
Speaker 4: I was listening to NPR today and unless I missed it,
Speaker 4: there was nary a mention of SpaceX's role in the
Speaker 4: whole thing. NASA, NASA, NASA, NASSA, just lots of NASSA
Speaker 4: government program.
Speaker 1: Did this government program? Did that? NPR is a funny,
Speaker 1: funny joke.
Speaker 4: And well they did have a good interview with an
Speaker 4: astronaut talking about I'd never heard anybody. I've heard astronaut
Speaker 4: since I was a little kid. Joe and I grew
Speaker 4: up in the golden age of SpaceX co exploration, when
Speaker 4: we're going to the Moon and whatnot, and I would
Speaker 4: alwa's heard about Uncle Neil Armstrong holds a fairly prominent
Speaker 4: place in the history. And now I've forgotten the word.
Speaker 4: The word applies to my son because it's a problem
Speaker 4: he had as a little kid. Are the human body
Speaker 4: needs pressure against it, particularly to the bottoms of your
Speaker 4: feet in your hands, to help orient it in the world,
Speaker 4: or your brain gets all out of whack. And that's
Speaker 4: the big problem. It's not the muscles after fying, it's
Speaker 4: that you have no none of that feedback on any
Speaker 4: of your body for a length of time, and it
Speaker 4: makes your brain go crazy. And that's the biggest adjustment
Speaker 4: that astronauts have to make. And I'd never heard that before,
Speaker 4: but it makes perfect sense, and it's really awful, like
Speaker 4: an awful, awful feeling. I'd always only heard about it
Speaker 4: described as muscle atrophying, and that's why they're that way
Speaker 4: and all wildling. No, no, no, no, it's the they've had
Speaker 4: no feedback on their body through their the normal spaces
Speaker 4: of walking around and pushing off of things, and their
Speaker 4: brain is out of whack, right, it takes a while
Speaker 4: for that to come back into whack.
Speaker 3: I heard Brettbaar was talking to who's the senator from
Speaker 3: Arizona whose brother was an astronaut. Yeah, the the Kelly
Speaker 3: brother who is an astronaut, was talking about coming back
Speaker 3: from a rather extended space mission, and he was talking
Speaker 3: about having hives, having painful skin pace hives because something
Speaker 3: to do with without the pressure, his skin changed and
Speaker 3: then when the pressure came back again, it was extremely
Speaker 3: sensitive and he had if you've.
Speaker 1: Never had hives, it's it's it's like torture.
Speaker 3: The astronaut I heard interviewed said he's five eleven, but
Speaker 3: when he came back he was six one. Then only
Speaker 3: lasted a couple of days and he went back to
Speaker 3: five eleven. That's how much you stretched out when you're
Speaker 3: not squished down by gravity all the time. I wonder
Speaker 3: how tall I am. I'm probably seven feet tall. When
Speaker 3: will we fight back against our oppressor of gravity?
Speaker 1: Right? I didn't love gravity? Who voted for that? Who
Speaker 1: passed it? It's the dictatorship of gravity, That's what I say.
Speaker 1: Who was with me? Yes, Katie?
Speaker 5: Well, you guys remember that documentary that Arnold was in,
Speaker 5: the Total Recall in Space Mutations?
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, another thing to worry about.
Speaker 3: We learned a great deal from that, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: well and speaking up for the women folk in space,
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about you know, support garments
Speaker 3: or anything, you know.
Speaker 1: Your poms cal Yes, it's just so great.
Speaker 3: Everything just stays like your nineteen year old college freshman
Speaker 3: for you know, permanently awesome.
Speaker 4: I like all of this. Let's start the show officially.
Speaker 4: I'm Jack Armstrong Joe Getty on this is how did
Speaker 4: it already get to be Wednesday March nineteenth or twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five or Armstrong and Getty, and we approved this program.
Speaker 3: How many women would willingly be set to space for
Speaker 3: two months a year if it preserved to a large
Speaker 3: extent their late teen's early twenties body for an extra decade.
Speaker 5: I don't know every single one of us.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right, let's begin the show officially now.
Speaker 3: According to FCC rules and regulations here, we got a
Speaker 3: lot to get to at.
Speaker 5: Mark Brace for splashdown and splashdown Crew nine back on
Speaker 5: our snip, Alex.
Speaker 1: Butch sunny On behalf of SpaceX Welcome Home. That's a splashdown.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it violent exactly, but it's like one
Speaker 3: step short of violent when you actually hit the water.
Speaker 1: I noticed they.
Speaker 3: Hit it at an angle, so the flat part of
Speaker 3: the craft doesn't contact the water. It kind of noses
Speaker 3: in like a wag, which I'm sure is part of
Speaker 3: the design.
Speaker 1: But I wonder how jostling that is. So we'll play
Speaker 1: the clip a little bit later.
Speaker 4: But Elon, in an interview last night, said they offered
Speaker 4: the Biden administration to go up there and get those astronauts,
Speaker 4: and the Biden administration wouldn't deal with them out of politics.
Speaker 4: Elon says, because of politics. Biden didn't let their technology
Speaker 4: go get these astronauts. That's why it happened right after
Speaker 4: Trump became president. Now Biden administration is saying that's not true.
Speaker 4: The timing is a little suspicious. The fact that it
Speaker 4: didn't happen during Biden and then Trump's president. That happens
Speaker 4: pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: So well, the.
Speaker 3: Biden administration told us Old Show is doing great. In
Speaker 3: fact he was better, never was fit to go for
Speaker 3: another term.
Speaker 4: The evidence I only need is I've said this one
Speaker 4: hundred times, is just you talk about climate change, you
Speaker 4: talk about all the electric cars in America, and never
Speaker 4: mentioned Tesla.
Speaker 1: That's all I need to know. You don't mention the
Speaker 1: number one by far electric car company because of politics.
Speaker 3: Even though it's a an existential threat to the extent
Speaker 3: that you have terrified generations of children over it, and
Speaker 3: yet we're.
Speaker 1: Leading the electric car company in the country. It's pretended
Speaker 1: doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: And that was not Elon is with Trump at that time,
Speaker 4: that was all. Tesla doesn't have the United Auto Workers
Speaker 4: union that GM and Ford and everybody has.
Speaker 1: But now, of course Elon is Hitler. We got Katie's.
Speaker 4: Headlines on the way we've got some mail bag, we
Speaker 4: got some other news we got we know something about
Speaker 4: the Trump Putin call from yesterday. Putin's asking for a lot,
Speaker 4: as I think was predicted, what we give him. I
Speaker 4: don't know. Israel as we speak is bombing Gaza.
Speaker 3: They've broken the ceasefire. Jack Corse, the New York Times, Right,
Speaker 3: I just heard that on NPR. NPRS, which is running
Speaker 3: all these promos.
Speaker 4: You know, they're always begging for money, even though we're
Speaker 4: supporting them through tax payer.
Speaker 1: Money, among other things.
Speaker 4: NPR runs all these promos about how preserve what do
Speaker 4: they call it, not real information, but something like.
Speaker 1: That, objective journalism. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the idea that we're the only things standing
Speaker 4: between you and just nothing but spun misinformation.
Speaker 1: We're the real.
Speaker 3: Partisan objective journalism. You have to help us preserve it.
Speaker 1: Do they believe that? Do they think a lot of them? Do?
Speaker 1: I think they do.
Speaker 4: I know lots of NPR listeners that believe that's the
Speaker 4: only news source you can count on to be objective.
Speaker 4: I would love to sit down with them and go
Speaker 4: through a newscast and point out where they're not objective.
Speaker 3: Well, you form your your view of what's moderate or
Speaker 3: what's objective or not based on your observations, and if
Speaker 3: you're bubbled, then you will think, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Super far left is moderate.
Speaker 4: Got a lot on the way, and our text line
Speaker 4: is four one five two nine five KFTC. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I'm stealing one of your headlines by teasing this,
Speaker 4: but Attorney General Pam Bondi announced yesterday that they're going
Speaker 4: to pursue punishments as high as they can against people
Speaker 4: who are attacking Tesla dealerships because it's political violence, if
Speaker 4: you will, and we can't tolerate that in America. But
Speaker 4: have some of the reactions around that that are pretty
Speaker 4: darned interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I agree with her completely.
Speaker 3: It's reminiscent of the early seventies when there are hundreds
Speaker 3: of bombings a year on private property, generally our government buildings,
Speaker 3: and it was clearly political terrorism. Go get them scumbags,
Speaker 3: all right. We've got a lot to get to today.
Speaker 3: As previously mentioned, it's Trump versus the courts. John Roberts
Speaker 3: chastises the president very gently, the big potent Trump call.
Speaker 3: Got to get to that and much more. Let's figure
Speaker 3: out who's reporting what it's leads throws Katy Green, Katy,
Speaker 3: this was so cool.
Speaker 5: Starting with the Guardian Dolphins welcome NASA astronauts stuck in.
Speaker 1: Space back to Earth. I saw that. That was awesome.
Speaker 5: From the Washington Post, Netanyah who says Israeli strikes the
Speaker 5: killed hundreds in Gaza are quote just the beginning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably for sure.
Speaker 5: Ye USA today after Trump putin call, Russia agrees to
Speaker 5: limited Ukraine ceasefire.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Their main point that Putin had is you need to
Speaker 4: stop view the United States needs to stop arming Ukraine.
Speaker 1: So that's a heck of a thing.
Speaker 4: You start a fight with me and tell me you
Speaker 4: stop punching me, and I'll stop punching you.
Speaker 1: But you started it right.
Speaker 3: And it's a limited, conditional ceasefire for limited time that
Speaker 3: will be broken immediately. And he has gigantic demands to
Speaker 3: do anything.
Speaker 1: Sits significantly from breakbart dot com.
Speaker 5: Trump administration ends translation services for Immigration Agency after declaring
Speaker 5: English the official US language.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how they use the translators. I mean,
Speaker 3: you got some Chinese national coming across the border. You
Speaker 3: can yell at him in English as much as you want,
Speaker 3: But yeah, I need to know more.
Speaker 5: From the Daily Mail, musk hating hackers release names and
Speaker 5: addresses of every Tesla owner in the United States with
Speaker 5: a chilling symbol. The cursor turned into a Molotov cocktail dope.
Speaker 4: That's kind of interesting. I mean, I can't drive down
Speaker 4: the street in the Tesla. It's not like I'm hiding it,
Speaker 4: so yeah, but the address. Who knows what these monsters
Speaker 4: will do? From the New York Times, No, I don't
Speaker 4: like these times. I do not like these times.
Speaker 3: I need a time machine or I don't know, just
Speaker 3: go out into the woods and watch the squirrels covortas
Speaker 3: I've threatened for years.
Speaker 1: From the New York Times, oil and.
Speaker 5: Gas executives to visit the White House to discuss tariffs
Speaker 5: and regulation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where this ends, nobody knows, really, it's madness.
Speaker 1: From ABC.
Speaker 5: Last decade was Earth's hot ever, as CO two levels
Speaker 5: reach an eight hundred thousand year high.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's a big deal or not.
Speaker 4: But I mentioned the other day that in my home
Speaker 4: state of Kansas, they had a dust storm maybe sawt
Speaker 4: in the news that caused a fifty car pile up.
Speaker 1: With semis and everything like that.
Speaker 4: Because of dust, which never happened when I lived there.
Speaker 4: My brother had sent me this text from Western Kasis.
Speaker 4: We've got a full blown blizzard today that closed the interstate.
Speaker 1: It was eighty four degrees yesterday. WHOA, that's some weird weather.
Speaker 3: Holy cats, And who was the source of that highest
Speaker 3: co two in eight hundred thousand years?
Speaker 1: That's ABC News? Okay, all right or not?
Speaker 3: Or you know what, I'm gonna sell my park and
Speaker 3: buy some shorts that Soto. Hold on to my parka
Speaker 3: and my shorts, according to your brother's experience, keep them handy.
Speaker 1: You might need them this afternoon, both of them. Right
Speaker 1: from Yahoo News.
Speaker 5: Kanye West overshadowed by yet another social media meltdown.
Speaker 3: Ooh, I didn't know he had a new album come out.
Speaker 3: I'll have to check that out today on the drive home. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: there is controversy over the new album Jack.
Speaker 1: As you might expect, it's not hinged.
Speaker 3: Does that have anything to do with the fact that
Speaker 3: he's completely nuts and his self proclaimed himself a Nazi?
Speaker 1: Yes, I did.
Speaker 5: He his Twitter yesterday and it's still up right now.
Speaker 5: I gotta check it out, like a couple hundred all caps,
Speaker 5: just nonsense.
Speaker 1: Guy.
Speaker 3: I know he really needs a conservator like Britney Spears.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that. I think Kim Kardashian tried
Speaker 4: to be that.
Speaker 1: And finally the Babylon.
Speaker 5: Bee CIA files reveal JFK was killed by seed oils.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: They are so good. Have you dug into that at all? Jack,
Speaker 3: not a bit.
Speaker 4: I saw a keys on the Fox News last night
Speaker 4: and then they never got around to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've got a fair amount of information on it.
Speaker 3: They do the big takeaway. Oh yes, Joe with the
Speaker 3: big takeaway on the JFK assassination files coming up.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait, arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 6: We definitely offered to return the astronauts earlier. That's there's
Speaker 6: no question about that. The astronauts were only supposed to
Speaker 6: be there for eight days, and they've been there for
Speaker 6: almost ten months, so obviously that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6: SpaceX could have brought the astionals back after a few
Speaker 6: months at most, and we made that offer to.
Speaker 1: The Biden administration.
Speaker 6: It was rejected for political reasons, and that's just a fact.
Speaker 4: White House. The Biden White House says that's not true.
Speaker 4: Uan says it is. Maybe that'll get hashed out in
Speaker 4: the media today. If that is true, that's a heck
Speaker 4: of a thing.
Speaker 3: Those astronauts on a suit old man Biden or doctor Jail,
Speaker 3: fake doctor or somebody I mean being stuck up, although
Speaker 3: they are astronauts and seem to be like at least
Speaker 3: okay with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe he loved it.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean like I was supposed to go
Speaker 3: play Augusta National for an afternoon and I got stuck
Speaker 3: there and had to stay for nine months.
Speaker 4: I mean, sorry, honey, I miss you. You know, they're
Speaker 4: probably your honeymoon. Something happened in your honeymoon had to
Speaker 4: last three weeks instead of one week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you to be angry about that. I had a word,
Speaker 1: miss work. Damn it right, I get it.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: The Trump administration yesterday released more than thirty thousand pages
Speaker 3: of previously classified or censored documents relating to the death
Speaker 3: of former President J F.
Speaker 1: CA John F.
Speaker 3: Kennedy that some would had hoped would provide answers to
Speaker 3: decades old questions about the assassination. Trump said last year
Speaker 3: on the campaign trail he would disclose those documents if elected,
Speaker 3: and on Monday, he said most of the eighty thousand
Speaker 3: remaining pages would be released in full. I don't know
Speaker 3: why they're just going over them now for national security
Speaker 3: sources and methods and that sort of thing reasons, but
Speaker 3: that'll become a little more clear, I think as we talk.
Speaker 4: About this, well, well, yeah, and yesterday we talked about
Speaker 4: what a small percentage of the total pages on the
Speaker 4: JFK investigation. This is, yeah, for most of them have
Speaker 4: been released. But you got to wonder why did they
Speaker 4: hold these back? You know, it makes me interested, right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think though the answer might not be
Speaker 3: as like direct and wow ish as some people hope,
Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting for sure. It already is
Speaker 3: to me now, I will tell you this, having released
Speaker 3: thirty thousand pages like a day ago, that's.
Speaker 1: A heck of a lot to go through.
Speaker 3: And depending on who you look at, they have different
Speaker 3: accounts of what's the most interesting part. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: hit you with a couple of things that I found
Speaker 3: really interesting.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: The New York Post is is their won't have gone
Speaker 3: with the most jazzy sexy stuff, whether it's the most
Speaker 3: significant or not, as in the Ivy Beholder. But some
Speaker 3: of the interesting snippets being poured over quoting now include
Speaker 3: documents shedding light on theories eyeing a small clique in
Speaker 3: the CIA being involved, as well as an apparent KGB
Speaker 3: investigation to find out if SaaS and Lee RV. Hoswald
Speaker 3: was one of its agents. And I've read tons on
Speaker 3: this in my lifetime. It is amazing Lee Harvey Oswald's
Speaker 3: connection to the Soviet Union at very points of life
Speaker 3: and then no tying them to the assassination.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is one hell of a coincidence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And we'll get to that if we have time,
Speaker 3: because there are a lot of different levels of relationships
Speaker 3: you can have, especially with intelligence services. But this is interesting.
Speaker 3: A memo dated June sixty seven details how a former
Speaker 3: US Army intelligence officer, Gary Underhill, fled d C Washington,
Speaker 3: DC very agitated.
Speaker 1: That's a quote.
Speaker 3: The day after Kennedy was shot, and spoke with a
Speaker 3: friend about how a quote small clique within the CIA
Speaker 3: was behind the assassination. Six months before he was found
Speaker 3: dead in his apartment. He was very agitated. A small
Speaker 3: clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided,
Speaker 3: and he was afraid for his life and probably would
Speaker 3: have to leave the country, the memo reads. Less than
Speaker 3: six months months later, Underhill was found dead, shot to
Speaker 3: death in his Washington apartment.
Speaker 1: The coroner ruled it a suicide. That's pretty damned interesting.
Speaker 3: Underhill, former US Army captain who worked as an intelligence
Speaker 3: officer during World War Two, was said to be on
Speaker 3: quote a first name basis with many of the top
Speaker 3: brass in the Pentagon, and on intimate terms with a
Speaker 3: number of high ranking CIA officials. The friends whomunder Hill
Speaker 3: visited say he was sober but badly shook. They say
Speaker 3: he attributed the Kennedy murder to a CIA click, which
Speaker 3: was carrying on a lucrative racket and gun running, narcotics
Speaker 3: and other contraband, and the Click allegedly killed Kennedy because
Speaker 3: he caught wind of their business and was killed before
Speaker 3: he could blow them the right.
Speaker 4: So that's that's why the Kennedy assassination has always made
Speaker 4: for such great movies or speculation or books whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 4: All the pieces are there for just all kinds of
Speaker 4: different theories. Lee Harvey Oswald in case you're whatever, He's
Speaker 4: not somebody who ever spent much time looking.
Speaker 1: He freaking lived in the Soviet Union for a while.
Speaker 3: He moved there and lived there for a while and
Speaker 3: met with Soviet agents right yeah, yeah, and sought asylum
Speaker 3: there on multiple occasions, and Cuba again.
Speaker 1: One more note on mister Underhill.
Speaker 3: His suicide was called into question since he was found
Speaker 3: with a gunshot wound behind his left ear, but his
Speaker 3: writing partner who found his body said he was right handed,
Speaker 3: so very very odd he would use his left.
Speaker 1: Hand to kill himself.
Speaker 3: A classic you know, TV detective ish, Wait a minute, now,
Speaker 3: let's see and the another document, teletype US intelligence report
Speaker 3: from November of ninety one, said a KGB official named
Speaker 3: Nikanov investigated whether Oswald had been a KGB agent. Nikanov
Speaker 3: is now confident that Oswald was at no time an
Speaker 3: agent controlled by the KGB, the document says.
Speaker 1: The film the file rather.
Speaker 3: Also noted that KGB was watching him closely and constantly
Speaker 3: while he was in the USSR, and also noted Oswald
Speaker 3: was a poor shot when he tried target firing in
Speaker 3: the USSR. Also had a stormy relationship with his Soviet wife,
Speaker 3: who rode him incessantly.
Speaker 1: That's from a KGB file. Hey, hey, hey, you don't
Speaker 1: need to put that in my file. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or the FSB file at the time. So
Speaker 3: that's that's pretty interesting. I want to get to putting
Speaker 3: aside just for the moment, some of the jazzier stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Wall Street Journal's account of the
Speaker 3: thousands of pages their people poured through. Let's see, it
Speaker 3: was Sinatra angry that JFK had betted his girlfriend Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Some of the documents have faded typewritten text and hadn't
Speaker 3: written notes. Others contained faint classified secret markings. The documents
Speaker 3: appear to address a range of topics, from a trip
Speaker 3: Oswald took to Finland to a two hundred and ten
Speaker 3: dollars rent reminder for a CIA safehouse in Maryland, to
Speaker 3: the financing of covert operations. Let's see, they actually refer
Speaker 3: to mister Nosenko again, the former KGB guy. The a
Speaker 3: arrange for two Washington Post reporters to interview him about
Speaker 3: his knowledge of Oswald when he lived in the so Union.
Speaker 3: They also reimbursed him for his expenses that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Obviously, the most explosive thing would be if the CIA
Speaker 4: took out a president of the United States, because even
Speaker 4: if we could nail down that it was the Soviet
Speaker 4: Union at this point, I mean, that's interesting, but that
Speaker 4: entity no longer exists.
Speaker 1: They were an enemy of the United States. It's not
Speaker 1: shocking the heck of a thing.
Speaker 3: But if it turned out to be our own government,
Speaker 3: you know, the CIA, where now that would be just
Speaker 3: you know, oh my god, head's explode.
Speaker 1: Why what do you do with this bubbo devastating your heath? Shaking?
Speaker 3: It would change laws and the structure of government and
Speaker 3: all sorts of I could tell you what Bobby thought
Speaker 3: when it happened, because it's in the LBJ books written
Speaker 3: by Caro. He thought that the mob finally got to
Speaker 3: them because Bobby Kennedy, as Attorney General, had been at
Speaker 3: war with organized crime death threats is constantly. Was his
Speaker 3: first thoughts, was the mob finally pulled it off? Well,
Speaker 3: and a lot of the conspiracy theories quote unquote have
Speaker 3: to do with the nexus between the CIA and the mob,
Speaker 3: and hey, look who are both in on this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got guys, We got guys.
Speaker 3: Anyway, one of the more interesting takeaways for me, and
Speaker 3: it's not really sexy exactly, but I'll just read you
Speaker 3: this and then make the point. Documents released Tuesday help
Speaker 3: explain why some of the materials have remained.
Speaker 1: Secret for decades.
Speaker 3: CIA operations that could be exposed span dozens of countries
Speaker 3: from Japan to Zaiir, requiring officials to assess the damage
Speaker 3: that disclosure would bring to spy programs in each nation. Quote,
Speaker 3: public acknowledgment of a station in India would be a problem.
Speaker 3: US and India foreign relations are always delicate. The Indian
Speaker 3: government is very sensitive to perceived slights, one official wrote
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety five. Disclosure of CIA operations in Berlin,
Speaker 3: on the other hand, would cause quote no specific damage,
Speaker 3: the official.
Speaker 1: Wrote, Yeah, but that's what we said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, today, systems and methods, I mean, where do we
Speaker 4: get our information that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: You can't be given that away, right exactly. There's a
Speaker 3: little more, and then again there's a point to be made.
Speaker 3: The documents, many of them fully redacted, provide a rare
Speaker 3: window in the overlap between covert action and state craft.
Speaker 3: One CIA document from nineteen sixty recounts how Mexico's president,
Speaker 3: who had spoken publicly against American intervention in Cuba, praised
Speaker 3: American plans to oust Castro Lopez Mateos that's the president
Speaker 3: asked the CIA's local station to convey the President Eisenhower
Speaker 3: that he has quote delighted that a decision has now
Speaker 3: been made to get rid of Castro while he was
Speaker 3: shouting and beating his chest in public, makes perfect sounds
Speaker 3: to keep that secret awful.
Speaker 1: And they go into what time is it? You know,
Speaker 1: we got a second. That sort of thing happens all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 4: By the way, it'd be like MBS in Saudi Arabia
Speaker 4: saying take out the Iranians.
Speaker 3: Somebody's got to do it, but he's not going to
Speaker 3: say that out loud right exactly for instance. And then
Speaker 3: let's get back into this later. They go into a
Speaker 3: great deal of the relationship between the Soviets and the
Speaker 3: Cubans and Oswal's desire to hook up with one or
Speaker 3: both of them, and how aggressively they researched it. But
Speaker 3: here's the part the twist that I wanted to get to,
Speaker 3: and just by coincidence, Holman Jenkins, who writes editorials for
Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal once a week or whatever it is,
Speaker 3: wrote a great piece today, Nobody wants the COVID truth.
Speaker 3: Why Western intelligence agencies helped Putin and she keep their
Speaker 3: darkest secrets. And he starts with the fact, well, actually
Speaker 3: he starts with In nineteen seventy eight, scientists quickly concluded
Speaker 3: that the previous year's global flu pandemic originated in the
Speaker 3: lab league in China or Russia, but they chose not
Speaker 3: to advertise their findings because their overriding priority was to
Speaker 3: protect diplomatic relationships which were warming with Russia and China.
Speaker 3: What year was that, nineteen seventy eight?
Speaker 1: Wow? Jenkins rights.
Speaker 3: This columns long highlighted a reasoned disinterest of the US
Speaker 3: and other Western governments and finding the truth about COVID nineteen,
Speaker 3: which would complicate relations with China, and he mentions the
Speaker 3: CIA finally five years later said yeah, it's probably a
Speaker 3: lab leak, but.
Speaker 1: We have low confidence.
Speaker 3: Low confidence the diplomatically vital caveat Jenkins calls it. German
Speaker 3: intelligence apparently concluded as far back as twenty twenty with
Speaker 3: high confidence that a lab mishap was responsible, but that
Speaker 3: finding was only leaked this month, followed by frantic cover
Speaker 3: your ass activities by German politicians concerned about relations with Beijing.
Speaker 4: So for anybody who's wondering how we got from JFK
Speaker 4: to COVID. So this is just the sometimes they keeps
Speaker 4: off secret to keep things smooth with other countries.
Speaker 3: Yes, the intelligence services and the civilian controllers of them
Speaker 3: will absolute lo soft pedal the evil doings of our
Speaker 3: adversaries and enemies. If they have diplomatic goals that the
Speaker 3: truth that the American people are howling for would would
Speaker 3: be comfortable.
Speaker 4: Boy, And that's a problem because there's a lot of
Speaker 4: judgment calls involved in that.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, up to an including China killing millions of
Speaker 3: effing people. Wow, that's soft pedal this, it would be
Speaker 3: it would ratchet up, you know.
Speaker 4: Tensions when you can picture all kinds of bad judgment
Speaker 4: calls being made around that because your particular world is
Speaker 4: so important to you, your relationships with batperson.
Speaker 3: Sure right, And how wrong we're Nixon and the Kissinger
Speaker 3: about Chinese intentions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting stuff. That's deep state stuff right there. Well,
Speaker 4: that's that's why I brought it up. It all fits. Yeah,
Speaker 4: how about the magic bullet? Do we get into that
Speaker 4: at all? How did you make to I'm not going to.
Speaker 3: Get move into a cabin in the woods and start
Speaker 3: firing off manifestos and blowing off people's fingers.
Speaker 1: But it's enough to make you pretty cynics.
Speaker 3: Good to know we've gotten a mailbag on the way.
Speaker 3: Stay here. So I don't get a big kick out
Speaker 3: of the daily My team did this, their team did that,
Speaker 3: back and forth.
Speaker 4: But I do get a real big kick out of
Speaker 4: just like bright line, philosophical divides between people who have
Speaker 4: a conservative mindset and people who have a progressive mindset.
Speaker 4: And we got a great example of that from Chuck
Speaker 4: Schumer on The View yesterday that we'll get into an
Speaker 4: hour two. I mean, you either agree with him, and
Speaker 4: I know lots of people who had nod their head,
Speaker 4: or you're horrified at his point of view about your money.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that an hour or two.
Speaker 3: I just respect the fact that anybody fixed their eyeballs
Speaker 3: to that dumpster fire and watched it long enough to
Speaker 3: comprehend what was I saw.
Speaker 4: A clip of it on Twitter, not like I'm going
Speaker 4: home and watching the View in my in my spirit time.
Speaker 1: Here's your freedom.
Speaker 3: Love and quote of the day, continuing our series from
Speaker 3: Theodore Roosevelt, the pacifist is as surely a traitor to
Speaker 3: his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That is so true. That is so true.
Speaker 4: But man, you get into it if you try to
Speaker 4: if you try to talk to a pacifist and say, look,
Speaker 4: you're really just taking more war and death. Well, and
Speaker 4: you're just taking the intellectual easy way out. You're unwilling
Speaker 4: to engage in reality. So don't waste my time. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a very insulting thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would like to read the rest of that paragraph.
Speaker 3: Hear more of TR's reasoning. Very little time, though, So
Speaker 3: let's get right now. So let's get to mail bag.
Speaker 1: Woo woo. Why don't you communicate?
Speaker 3: Hmm, drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong egeeddi
Speaker 3: dot com is the email address. Give him as short
Speaker 3: as is reasonable. I mean, if you're brilliant, and that
Speaker 3: brilliant voice to me, go on for a while.
Speaker 1: That's fuck.
Speaker 3: James writes just a few words. First of all, there's
Speaker 3: no such thing as Twitter, it doesn't exist. Second, Jackson, idiot,
Speaker 3: Joseph moron, sincerely James, and he signs his full name.
Speaker 1: I would like to break down between idiot and moron.
Speaker 3: Yeah, James, if you could write back and elucidate a
Speaker 3: little further, we'd appreciate it.
Speaker 1: There's one rank higher than the other. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we both want to know that. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: Who is the greater maroon in in your opinion? Sir
Speaker 3: JT and livermore frequent correspondent writes, I can't be the
Speaker 3: only person who hears about those astronauts who them marked
Speaker 3: on a very short tripped outer space and only ended
Speaker 3: up stranded there for a very long time. I can't
Speaker 3: be the only one who hears that and thinks of
Speaker 3: the Gilligan's Island theme song.
Speaker 1: A three hour tour, A three hour tour.
Speaker 3: Surely some musically creative person could put together a spoof
Speaker 3: music video. It's got to be out there, or have
Speaker 3: your computer do it? Ay, I could do it in
Speaker 3: like a minute. Speaking of Ai note, let's see Mark
Speaker 3: yesterday you find Jen spoke of the seven Dwarfs being
Speaker 3: done via CGI and yet though in the idiot snow
Speaker 3: White movie, and their voices still have to be done
Speaker 3: by actual dwarves. Though why, I mean, if a man
Speaker 3: can play a woman get nominated for an oscar, why
Speaker 3: can't a large or normal sized person. Do the voices
Speaker 3: of dwarfs and the cgi snow White love the show?
Speaker 3: Katie's great the perfect amount of great American sarcasm.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 3: Signs off from Frog's Nipple. Ohio, I've never been a
Speaker 3: frog nipples since, but it's lovely this time here speaking
Speaker 3: of the awful, awful Snow White movie that nobody will see,
Speaker 3: Garrick Wrights, you made no mention that Disney loves diversity
Speaker 3: so much that they can't even make snow White white.
Speaker 3: If there was one character you'd think they'd leave alone,
Speaker 3: unlike the Little Mermaid, for instance, it'd be snow effing white.
Speaker 1: I see the hispanic order of nobody on the right
Speaker 1: cares really do that? Don't care? No, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I got to admit it be weird if she was
Speaker 3: black and called herself snow white. But whatever, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna see the movie anyway. Oh, we're out of time,
Speaker 3: damn it, the cruelty of the clock. We've got plenty
Speaker 3: more hours to go.
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