1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio of the 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe Kaddy arm Strong 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and Jack Kid and he. 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: Arm who live from studio scene, say to Wednesday, are 5 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: you excited at that halfway did the finish line? 6 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Or I'm strong and getting in a dimly lit room 7 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: using in the bowels of our entire compound and torming 8 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: you for hours to come. 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: And today we're under the food ledge of our general manager. 10 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: Let's go with Sonny Williams and Butch will Moore, the 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: recently returned astronauts. 12 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: There as two of them. 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: There indeed were two of them. There are two of 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: them there continue to be two of them. 15 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Yes, and they're the ones that I saw land in 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: the ocean last night. 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: That is correct. Well, plucky, plucky gal, plucky guy. It's 18 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: amazing what nine months in space due to you, though, 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean they are weak, weak acts. They ought to 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: get to They're tough enough. Zero gravity, your muscles wither 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: away and your bones get less dense, and your eyeballs 22 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: are prone to floating out of their sockets on their 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: day last part up. 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: But it's it's rough on a human being. 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: Which brings to mind jack the illumined question, how the 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: hell can we get somebody to Mars and have them 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: be anything other than just a glob of jelly isometric exercises, 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: That's what I say. 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: Well, I was listening to an old astronautic who said 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: you recover pretty quickly. 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: So but uh yeah, I heard Elon. 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: We got some clips that Elan, he didn't interview last night, 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: talking about going to Mars. 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Quite the deal. I hope I live long enough to 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: do it. 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: He said, twenty to twenty to thirty years before there's 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 4: like a space station there. I don't know when he's 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: expecting to actually have a human being just go there. 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any plan to come back, right. 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, a space station manned by humans there, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: that's the whole point. 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: He's so much for robotics these days. No, Elon that, well, 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: that wouldn't do us any good. Elon's entire point is 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: that we need to be the first species, probably in 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: the universe, to be multiplanetary. He believes if there has 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: ever been other intelligent life, it's because it died out 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 4: because it was on one planet. Eventually, a planet dies 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: out for a number of reasons or destroys itself or whatever. 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: You need to be multiplanetary to continue as a species, 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: and the only way to do that is to get 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: to Mars and have people there also. 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's this is why you're not in charge of 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: the program. To dismiss my ideas. That wouldn't do any good. 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. 55 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: The robots would get there and build the facilities that 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: were need it well, so the humans could move in. 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: It's like a move in ready condo on Mars. The 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: robots would put up the wallpaper and paint and rearrange 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: the furniture a couple of times. 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Still they're happy with it. 61 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: I know I'm not gonna live long enough for this. 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: This is the part I would really like to see. 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: Is you get enough people up there that you start 64 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: to have a society that then has exactly the same 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: problems we've had here on Earth. And then maybe everybody 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: finally realizes once and for all, it's just freaking human nature. 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Wait what, I'm making a Macaulay Culkin face. 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: There wasn't a Trump on Mars that caused people to 69 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: act this way or something else, right, that would be something, 70 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't it if if that just brought us like an 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: extra year and a half after Earth destroys itself. 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: The people on Mars are doing exactly the same thing. 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: But you're gonna have the first crime on Earth first, 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: or on Mars the first time somebody you know comes 75 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: back in and their uh, I don't know, their gyroscope 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: is missing. And Fred's first crime first murder first, you know, 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: out of wedlock, baby whatever. Sure, somebody gets a little 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: drunk on space rum and takes a swing at somebody else. 79 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you'll have to have a space jail. 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 4: And I don't know if people understand that that's happening, 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: and you know, speaking to that, clearly, politics or space 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 4: has been politicized now in the way that everything else 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: is politicized. The coverage of yesterday's Return of the Astronauts 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: depend on what channel you were watching. 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: They either mentioned elon Musk, space X and. 86 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 4: All that endlessly or they mentioned it not at all, 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: depending on the channel the channel you were watching. Because 88 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: space has become politicized just. 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Like everything else. 90 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: I was actually mildly surprised to see ABC News in 91 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: a bit of detail go over the whole Boeing swung 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: and missed and SpaceX succeeded. 93 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: I was listening to NPR today and unless I missed it, 94 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: there was nary a mention of SpaceX's role in the 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 4: whole thing. NASA, NASA, NASA, NASSA, just lots of NASSA 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 4: government program. 97 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Did this government program? Did that? NPR is a funny, 98 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: funny joke. 99 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 4: And well they did have a good interview with an 100 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: astronaut talking about I'd never heard anybody. I've heard astronaut 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: since I was a little kid. Joe and I grew 102 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: up in the golden age of SpaceX co exploration, when 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: we're going to the Moon and whatnot, and I would 104 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 4: alwa's heard about Uncle Neil Armstrong holds a fairly prominent 105 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 4: place in the history. And now I've forgotten the word. 106 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: The word applies to my son because it's a problem 107 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 4: he had as a little kid. Are the human body 108 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 4: needs pressure against it, particularly to the bottoms of your 109 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: feet in your hands, to help orient it in the world, 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: or your brain gets all out of whack. And that's 111 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: the big problem. It's not the muscles after fying, it's 112 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: that you have no none of that feedback on any 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: of your body for a length of time, and it 114 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: makes your brain go crazy. And that's the biggest adjustment 115 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: that astronauts have to make. And I'd never heard that before, 116 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 4: but it makes perfect sense, and it's really awful, like 117 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: an awful, awful feeling. I'd always only heard about it 118 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: described as muscle atrophying, and that's why they're that way 119 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: and all wildling. No, no, no, no, it's the they've had 120 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: no feedback on their body through their the normal spaces 121 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: of walking around and pushing off of things, and their 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: brain is out of whack, right, it takes a while 123 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: for that to come back into whack. 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: I heard Brettbaar was talking to who's the senator from 125 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: Arizona whose brother was an astronaut. Yeah, the the Kelly 126 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: brother who is an astronaut, was talking about coming back 127 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: from a rather extended space mission, and he was talking 128 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: about having hives, having painful skin pace hives because something 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: to do with without the pressure, his skin changed and 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: then when the pressure came back again, it was extremely 131 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: sensitive and he had if you've. 132 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Never had hives, it's it's it's like torture. 133 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: The astronaut I heard interviewed said he's five eleven, but 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: when he came back he was six one. Then only 135 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: lasted a couple of days and he went back to 136 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: five eleven. That's how much you stretched out when you're 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: not squished down by gravity all the time. I wonder 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: how tall I am. I'm probably seven feet tall. When 139 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: will we fight back against our oppressor of gravity? 140 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Right? I didn't love gravity? Who voted for that? Who 141 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: passed it? It's the dictatorship of gravity, That's what I say. 142 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: Who was with me? Yes, Katie? 143 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: Well, you guys remember that documentary that Arnold was in, 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 5: the Total Recall in Space Mutations? 145 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, another thing to worry about. 146 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: We learned a great deal from that, yes, yes, yes, 147 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: well and speaking up for the women folk in space, 148 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about you know, support garments 149 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: or anything, you know. 150 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Your poms cal Yes, it's just so great. 151 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: Everything just stays like your nineteen year old college freshman 152 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: for you know, permanently awesome. 153 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: I like all of this. Let's start the show officially. 154 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: I'm Jack Armstrong Joe Getty on this is how did 155 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: it already get to be Wednesday March nineteenth or twenty 156 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: twenty five or Armstrong and Getty, and we approved this program. 157 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: How many women would willingly be set to space for 158 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: two months a year if it preserved to a large 159 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: extent their late teen's early twenties body for an extra decade. 160 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 5: I don't know every single one of us. 161 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right, let's begin the show officially now. 162 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: According to FCC rules and regulations here, we got a 163 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: lot to get to at. 164 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: Mark Brace for splashdown and splashdown Crew nine back on 165 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: our snip, Alex. 166 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Butch sunny On behalf of SpaceX Welcome Home. That's a splashdown. 167 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it violent exactly, but it's like one 168 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: step short of violent when you actually hit the water. 169 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I noticed they. 170 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: Hit it at an angle, so the flat part of 171 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: the craft doesn't contact the water. It kind of noses 172 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: in like a wag, which I'm sure is part of 173 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: the design. 174 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: But I wonder how jostling that is. So we'll play 175 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: the clip a little bit later. 176 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: But Elon, in an interview last night, said they offered 177 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: the Biden administration to go up there and get those astronauts, 178 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: and the Biden administration wouldn't deal with them out of politics. 179 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: Elon says, because of politics. Biden didn't let their technology 180 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: go get these astronauts. That's why it happened right after 181 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: Trump became president. Now Biden administration is saying that's not true. 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: The timing is a little suspicious. The fact that it 183 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: didn't happen during Biden and then Trump's president. That happens 184 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: pretty quickly. 185 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: So well, the. 186 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: Biden administration told us Old Show is doing great. In 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: fact he was better, never was fit to go for 188 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: another term. 189 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: The evidence I only need is I've said this one 190 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: hundred times, is just you talk about climate change, you 191 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: talk about all the electric cars in America, and never 192 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: mentioned Tesla. 193 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: That's all I need to know. You don't mention the 194 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: number one by far electric car company because of politics. 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: Even though it's a an existential threat to the extent 196 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: that you have terrified generations of children over it, and 197 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: yet we're. 198 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: Leading the electric car company in the country. It's pretended 199 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. 200 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: And that was not Elon is with Trump at that time, 201 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: that was all. Tesla doesn't have the United Auto Workers 202 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: union that GM and Ford and everybody has. 203 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: But now, of course Elon is Hitler. We got Katie's. 204 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 4: Headlines on the way we've got some mail bag, we 205 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: got some other news we got we know something about 206 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: the Trump Putin call from yesterday. Putin's asking for a lot, 207 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: as I think was predicted, what we give him. I 208 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: don't know. Israel as we speak is bombing Gaza. 209 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: They've broken the ceasefire. Jack Corse, the New York Times, Right, 210 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: I just heard that on NPR. NPRS, which is running 211 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: all these promos. 212 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: You know, they're always begging for money, even though we're 213 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: supporting them through tax payer. 214 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: Money, among other things. 215 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 4: NPR runs all these promos about how preserve what do 216 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: they call it, not real information, but something like. 217 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: That, objective journalism. Yeah. 218 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, with the idea that we're the only things standing 219 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,359 Speaker 4: between you and just nothing but spun misinformation. 220 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: We're the real. 221 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: Partisan objective journalism. You have to help us preserve it. 222 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: Do they believe that? Do they think a lot of them? Do? 223 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: I think they do. 224 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: I know lots of NPR listeners that believe that's the 225 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: only news source you can count on to be objective. 226 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: I would love to sit down with them and go 227 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 4: through a newscast and point out where they're not objective. 228 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: Well, you form your your view of what's moderate or 229 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 3: what's objective or not based on your observations, and if 230 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: you're bubbled, then you will think, yeah, okay. 231 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: Super far left is moderate. 232 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: Got a lot on the way, and our text line 233 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: is four one five two nine five KFTC. I don't 234 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: know if I'm stealing one of your headlines by teasing this, 235 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: but Attorney General Pam Bondi announced yesterday that they're going 236 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: to pursue punishments as high as they can against people 237 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: who are attacking Tesla dealerships because it's political violence, if 238 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: you will, and we can't tolerate that in America. But 239 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 4: have some of the reactions around that that are pretty 240 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: darned interesting. 241 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I agree with her completely. 242 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: It's reminiscent of the early seventies when there are hundreds 243 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: of bombings a year on private property, generally our government buildings, 244 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: and it was clearly political terrorism. Go get them scumbags, 245 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: all right. We've got a lot to get to today. 246 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: As previously mentioned, it's Trump versus the courts. John Roberts 247 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: chastises the president very gently, the big potent Trump call. 248 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: Got to get to that and much more. Let's figure 249 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: out who's reporting what it's leads throws Katy Green, Katy, 250 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: this was so cool. 251 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: Starting with the Guardian Dolphins welcome NASA astronauts stuck in. 252 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: Space back to Earth. I saw that. That was awesome. 253 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 5: From the Washington Post, Netanyah who says Israeli strikes the 254 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: killed hundreds in Gaza are quote just the beginning. 255 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably for sure. 256 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 5: Ye USA today after Trump putin call, Russia agrees to 257 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: limited Ukraine ceasefire. 258 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 259 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: Their main point that Putin had is you need to 260 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: stop view the United States needs to stop arming Ukraine. 261 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: So that's a heck of a thing. 262 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: You start a fight with me and tell me you 263 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: stop punching me, and I'll stop punching you. 264 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: But you started it right. 265 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: And it's a limited, conditional ceasefire for limited time that 266 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: will be broken immediately. And he has gigantic demands to 267 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: do anything. 268 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Sits significantly from breakbart dot com. 269 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 5: Trump administration ends translation services for Immigration Agency after declaring 270 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 5: English the official US language. 271 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how they use the translators. I mean, 272 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: you got some Chinese national coming across the border. You 273 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: can yell at him in English as much as you want, 274 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, I need to know more. 275 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 5: From the Daily Mail, musk hating hackers release names and 276 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 5: addresses of every Tesla owner in the United States with 277 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 5: a chilling symbol. The cursor turned into a Molotov cocktail dope. 278 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: That's kind of interesting. I mean, I can't drive down 279 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: the street in the Tesla. It's not like I'm hiding it, 280 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: so yeah, but the address. Who knows what these monsters 281 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: will do? From the New York Times, No, I don't 282 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: like these times. I do not like these times. 283 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: I need a time machine or I don't know, just 284 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: go out into the woods and watch the squirrels covortas 285 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: I've threatened for years. 286 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: From the New York Times, oil and. 287 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: Gas executives to visit the White House to discuss tariffs 288 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,359 Speaker 5: and regulation. 289 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, where this ends, nobody knows, really, it's madness. 290 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: From ABC. 291 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 5: Last decade was Earth's hot ever, as CO two levels 292 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 5: reach an eight hundred thousand year high. 293 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's a big deal or not. 294 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: But I mentioned the other day that in my home 295 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: state of Kansas, they had a dust storm maybe sawt 296 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: in the news that caused a fifty car pile up. 297 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: With semis and everything like that. 298 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: Because of dust, which never happened when I lived there. 299 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: My brother had sent me this text from Western Kasis. 300 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: We've got a full blown blizzard today that closed the interstate. 301 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: It was eighty four degrees yesterday. WHOA, that's some weird weather. 302 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: Holy cats, And who was the source of that highest 303 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: co two in eight hundred thousand years? 304 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: That's ABC News? Okay, all right or not? 305 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: Or you know what, I'm gonna sell my park and 306 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: buy some shorts that Soto. Hold on to my parka 307 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: and my shorts, according to your brother's experience, keep them handy. 308 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: You might need them this afternoon, both of them. Right 309 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: from Yahoo News. 310 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 5: Kanye West overshadowed by yet another social media meltdown. 311 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: Ooh, I didn't know he had a new album come out. 312 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: I'll have to check that out today on the drive home. Yeah, yeah, 313 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: there is controversy over the new album Jack. 314 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: As you might expect, it's not hinged. 315 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: Does that have anything to do with the fact that 316 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: he's completely nuts and his self proclaimed himself a Nazi? 317 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I did. 318 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: He his Twitter yesterday and it's still up right now. 319 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 5: I gotta check it out, like a couple hundred all caps, 320 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: just nonsense. 321 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Guy. 322 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: I know he really needs a conservator like Britney Spears. 323 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that. I think Kim Kardashian tried 324 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: to be that. 325 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: And finally the Babylon. 326 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 5: Bee CIA files reveal JFK was killed by seed oils. 327 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 328 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: They are so good. Have you dug into that at all? Jack, 329 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: not a bit. 330 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: I saw a keys on the Fox News last night 331 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: and then they never got around to it. 332 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've got a fair amount of information on it. 333 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: They do the big takeaway. Oh yes, Joe with the 334 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: big takeaway on the JFK assassination files coming up. 335 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait, arm Strong and Getty. 336 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 6: We definitely offered to return the astronauts earlier. That's there's 337 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 6: no question about that. The astronauts were only supposed to 338 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 6: be there for eight days, and they've been there for 339 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 6: almost ten months, so obviously that doesn't make any sense. 340 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 6: SpaceX could have brought the astionals back after a few 341 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 6: months at most, and we made that offer to. 342 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: The Biden administration. 343 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 6: It was rejected for political reasons, and that's just a fact. 344 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: White House. The Biden White House says that's not true. 345 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: Uan says it is. Maybe that'll get hashed out in 346 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: the media today. If that is true, that's a heck 347 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 4: of a thing. 348 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: Those astronauts on a suit old man Biden or doctor Jail, 349 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: fake doctor or somebody I mean being stuck up, although 350 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: they are astronauts and seem to be like at least 351 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: okay with it. 352 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe he loved it. 353 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean like I was supposed to go 354 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: play Augusta National for an afternoon and I got stuck 355 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: there and had to stay for nine months. 356 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: I mean, sorry, honey, I miss you. You know, they're 357 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: probably your honeymoon. Something happened in your honeymoon had to 358 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: last three weeks instead of one week. 359 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you to be angry about that. I had a word, 360 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: miss work. Damn it right, I get it. 361 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: So. 362 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: The Trump administration yesterday released more than thirty thousand pages 363 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: of previously classified or censored documents relating to the death 364 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: of former President J F. 365 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: CA John F. 366 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: Kennedy that some would had hoped would provide answers to 367 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: decades old questions about the assassination. Trump said last year 368 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: on the campaign trail he would disclose those documents if elected, 369 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: and on Monday, he said most of the eighty thousand 370 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: remaining pages would be released in full. I don't know 371 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: why they're just going over them now for national security 372 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 3: sources and methods and that sort of thing reasons, but 373 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: that'll become a little more clear, I think as we talk. 374 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: About this, well, well, yeah, and yesterday we talked about 375 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: what a small percentage of the total pages on the 376 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 4: JFK investigation. This is, yeah, for most of them have 377 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: been released. But you got to wonder why did they 378 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: hold these back? You know, it makes me interested, right. 379 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think though the answer might not be 380 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: as like direct and wow ish as some people hope, 381 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting for sure. It already is 382 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: to me now, I will tell you this, having released 383 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: thirty thousand pages like a day ago, that's. 384 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: A heck of a lot to go through. 385 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: And depending on who you look at, they have different 386 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: accounts of what's the most interesting part. I'm just gonna 387 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: hit you with a couple of things that I found 388 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: really interesting. 389 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: Now. 390 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: The New York Post is is their won't have gone 391 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: with the most jazzy sexy stuff, whether it's the most 392 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: significant or not, as in the Ivy Beholder. But some 393 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: of the interesting snippets being poured over quoting now include 394 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: documents shedding light on theories eyeing a small clique in 395 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: the CIA being involved, as well as an apparent KGB 396 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: investigation to find out if SaaS and Lee RV. Hoswald 397 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: was one of its agents. And I've read tons on 398 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: this in my lifetime. It is amazing Lee Harvey Oswald's 399 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: connection to the Soviet Union at very points of life 400 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: and then no tying them to the assassination. 401 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that is one hell of a coincidence. 402 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And we'll get to that if we have time, 403 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 3: because there are a lot of different levels of relationships 404 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: you can have, especially with intelligence services. But this is interesting. 405 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: A memo dated June sixty seven details how a former 406 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: US Army intelligence officer, Gary Underhill, fled d C Washington, 407 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 3: DC very agitated. 408 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: That's a quote. 409 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: The day after Kennedy was shot, and spoke with a 410 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: friend about how a quote small clique within the CIA 411 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 3: was behind the assassination. Six months before he was found 412 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: dead in his apartment. He was very agitated. A small 413 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 3: clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided, 414 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: and he was afraid for his life and probably would 415 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: have to leave the country, the memo reads. Less than 416 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: six months months later, Underhill was found dead, shot to 417 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 3: death in his Washington apartment. 418 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: The coroner ruled it a suicide. That's pretty damned interesting. 419 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: Underhill, former US Army captain who worked as an intelligence 420 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: officer during World War Two, was said to be on 421 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: quote a first name basis with many of the top 422 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: brass in the Pentagon, and on intimate terms with a 423 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 3: number of high ranking CIA officials. The friends whomunder Hill 424 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: visited say he was sober but badly shook. They say 425 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: he attributed the Kennedy murder to a CIA click, which 426 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: was carrying on a lucrative racket and gun running, narcotics 427 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: and other contraband, and the Click allegedly killed Kennedy because 428 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: he caught wind of their business and was killed before 429 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: he could blow them the right. 430 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: So that's that's why the Kennedy assassination has always made 431 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: for such great movies or speculation or books whatever. 432 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean. 433 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: All the pieces are there for just all kinds of 434 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 4: different theories. Lee Harvey Oswald in case you're whatever, He's 435 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: not somebody who ever spent much time looking. 436 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: He freaking lived in the Soviet Union for a while. 437 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: He moved there and lived there for a while and 438 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: met with Soviet agents right yeah, yeah, and sought asylum 439 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: there on multiple occasions, and Cuba again. 440 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: One more note on mister Underhill. 441 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: His suicide was called into question since he was found 442 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: with a gunshot wound behind his left ear, but his 443 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: writing partner who found his body said he was right handed, 444 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: so very very odd he would use his left. 445 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: Hand to kill himself. 446 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: A classic you know, TV detective ish, Wait a minute, now, 447 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: let's see and the another document, teletype US intelligence report 448 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: from November of ninety one, said a KGB official named 449 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: Nikanov investigated whether Oswald had been a KGB agent. Nikanov 450 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: is now confident that Oswald was at no time an 451 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: agent controlled by the KGB, the document says. 452 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: The film the file rather. 453 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: Also noted that KGB was watching him closely and constantly 454 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: while he was in the USSR, and also noted Oswald 455 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: was a poor shot when he tried target firing in 456 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: the USSR. Also had a stormy relationship with his Soviet wife, 457 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: who rode him incessantly. 458 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: That's from a KGB file. Hey, hey, hey, you don't 459 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: need to put that in my file. That's embarrassing. 460 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or the FSB file at the time. So 461 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 3: that's that's pretty interesting. I want to get to putting 462 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: aside just for the moment, some of the jazzier stuff. 463 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Wall Street Journal's account of the 464 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: thousands of pages their people poured through. Let's see, it 465 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: was Sinatra angry that JFK had betted his girlfriend Marilyn Monroe. 466 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 467 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: Some of the documents have faded typewritten text and hadn't 468 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: written notes. Others contained faint classified secret markings. The documents 469 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: appear to address a range of topics, from a trip 470 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 3: Oswald took to Finland to a two hundred and ten 471 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: dollars rent reminder for a CIA safehouse in Maryland, to 472 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: the financing of covert operations. Let's see, they actually refer 473 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: to mister Nosenko again, the former KGB guy. The a 474 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: arrange for two Washington Post reporters to interview him about 475 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: his knowledge of Oswald when he lived in the so Union. 476 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: They also reimbursed him for his expenses that sort of thing. 477 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: Obviously, the most explosive thing would be if the CIA 478 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: took out a president of the United States, because even 479 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: if we could nail down that it was the Soviet 480 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: Union at this point, I mean, that's interesting, but that 481 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: entity no longer exists. 482 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: They were an enemy of the United States. It's not 483 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: shocking the heck of a thing. 484 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 3: But if it turned out to be our own government, 485 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: you know, the CIA, where now that would be just 486 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: you know, oh my god, head's explode. 487 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: Why what do you do with this bubbo devastating your heath? Shaking? 488 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: It would change laws and the structure of government and 489 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: all sorts of I could tell you what Bobby thought 490 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: when it happened, because it's in the LBJ books written 491 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: by Caro. He thought that the mob finally got to 492 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: them because Bobby Kennedy, as Attorney General, had been at 493 00:25:53,880 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: war with organized crime death threats is constantly. Was his 494 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: first thoughts, was the mob finally pulled it off? Well, 495 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: and a lot of the conspiracy theories quote unquote have 496 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 3: to do with the nexus between the CIA and the mob, 497 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: and hey, look who are both in on this? 498 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got guys, We got guys. 499 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: Anyway, one of the more interesting takeaways for me, and 500 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: it's not really sexy exactly, but I'll just read you 501 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: this and then make the point. Documents released Tuesday help 502 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: explain why some of the materials have remained. 503 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Secret for decades. 504 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: CIA operations that could be exposed span dozens of countries 505 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: from Japan to Zaiir, requiring officials to assess the damage 506 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 3: that disclosure would bring to spy programs in each nation. Quote, 507 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: public acknowledgment of a station in India would be a problem. 508 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: US and India foreign relations are always delicate. The Indian 509 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: government is very sensitive to perceived slights, one official wrote 510 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety five. Disclosure of CIA operations in Berlin, 511 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: on the other hand, would cause quote no specific damage, 512 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 3: the official. 513 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Wrote, Yeah, but that's what we said. 514 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, today, systems and methods, I mean, where do we 515 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: get our information that sort of stuff. 516 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: You can't be given that away, right exactly. There's a 517 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 3: little more, and then again there's a point to be made. 518 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 3: The documents, many of them fully redacted, provide a rare 519 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: window in the overlap between covert action and state craft. 520 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 3: One CIA document from nineteen sixty recounts how Mexico's president, 521 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: who had spoken publicly against American intervention in Cuba, praised 522 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 3: American plans to oust Castro Lopez Mateos that's the president 523 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: asked the CIA's local station to convey the President Eisenhower 524 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: that he has quote delighted that a decision has now 525 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: been made to get rid of Castro while he was 526 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: shouting and beating his chest in public, makes perfect sounds 527 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 3: to keep that secret awful. 528 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: And they go into what time is it? You know, 529 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: we got a second. That sort of thing happens all 530 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: the time. 531 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: By the way, it'd be like MBS in Saudi Arabia 532 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: saying take out the Iranians. 533 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: Somebody's got to do it, but he's not going to 534 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: say that out loud right exactly for instance. And then 535 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: let's get back into this later. They go into a 536 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: great deal of the relationship between the Soviets and the 537 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: Cubans and Oswal's desire to hook up with one or 538 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: both of them, and how aggressively they researched it. But 539 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: here's the part the twist that I wanted to get to, 540 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: and just by coincidence, Holman Jenkins, who writes editorials for 541 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal once a week or whatever it is, 542 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: wrote a great piece today, Nobody wants the COVID truth. 543 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: Why Western intelligence agencies helped Putin and she keep their 544 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: darkest secrets. And he starts with the fact, well, actually 545 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: he starts with In nineteen seventy eight, scientists quickly concluded 546 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: that the previous year's global flu pandemic originated in the 547 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: lab league in China or Russia, but they chose not 548 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: to advertise their findings because their overriding priority was to 549 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 3: protect diplomatic relationships which were warming with Russia and China. 550 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: What year was that, nineteen seventy eight? 551 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: Wow? Jenkins rights. 552 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: This columns long highlighted a reasoned disinterest of the US 553 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: and other Western governments and finding the truth about COVID nineteen, 554 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: which would complicate relations with China, and he mentions the 555 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: CIA finally five years later said yeah, it's probably a 556 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: lab leak, but. 557 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: We have low confidence. 558 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: Low confidence the diplomatically vital caveat Jenkins calls it. German 559 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: intelligence apparently concluded as far back as twenty twenty with 560 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: high confidence that a lab mishap was responsible, but that 561 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: finding was only leaked this month, followed by frantic cover 562 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: your ass activities by German politicians concerned about relations with Beijing. 563 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: So for anybody who's wondering how we got from JFK 564 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: to COVID. So this is just the sometimes they keeps 565 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: off secret to keep things smooth with other countries. 566 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: Yes, the intelligence services and the civilian controllers of them 567 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: will absolute lo soft pedal the evil doings of our 568 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: adversaries and enemies. If they have diplomatic goals that the 569 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: truth that the American people are howling for would would 570 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: be comfortable. 571 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 4: Boy, And that's a problem because there's a lot of 572 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: judgment calls involved in that. 573 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, up to an including China killing millions of 574 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: effing people. Wow, that's soft pedal this, it would be 575 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: it would ratchet up, you know. 576 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: Tensions when you can picture all kinds of bad judgment 577 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: calls being made around that because your particular world is 578 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: so important to you, your relationships with batperson. 579 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: Sure right, And how wrong we're Nixon and the Kissinger 580 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 3: about Chinese intentions. 581 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting stuff. That's deep state stuff right there. Well, 582 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: that's that's why I brought it up. It all fits. Yeah, 583 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: how about the magic bullet? Do we get into that 584 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: at all? How did you make to I'm not going to. 585 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: Get move into a cabin in the woods and start 586 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: firing off manifestos and blowing off people's fingers. 587 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: But it's enough to make you pretty cynics. 588 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: Good to know we've gotten a mailbag on the way. 589 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: Stay here. So I don't get a big kick out 590 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: of the daily My team did this, their team did that, 591 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: back and forth. 592 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: But I do get a real big kick out of 593 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: just like bright line, philosophical divides between people who have 594 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: a conservative mindset and people who have a progressive mindset. 595 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: And we got a great example of that from Chuck 596 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 4: Schumer on The View yesterday that we'll get into an 597 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: hour two. I mean, you either agree with him, and 598 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: I know lots of people who had nod their head, 599 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: or you're horrified at his point of view about your money. 600 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that an hour or two. 601 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: I just respect the fact that anybody fixed their eyeballs 602 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: to that dumpster fire and watched it long enough to 603 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: comprehend what was I saw. 604 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: A clip of it on Twitter, not like I'm going 605 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: home and watching the View in my in my spirit time. 606 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Here's your freedom. 607 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: Love and quote of the day, continuing our series from 608 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: Theodore Roosevelt, the pacifist is as surely a traitor to 609 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer. 610 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: You know. 611 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: That is so true. That is so true. 612 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: But man, you get into it if you try to 613 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: if you try to talk to a pacifist and say, look, 614 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: you're really just taking more war and death. Well, and 615 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: you're just taking the intellectual easy way out. You're unwilling 616 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: to engage in reality. So don't waste my time. I mean, 617 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: it's a very insulting thing to say, but it's true. 618 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 619 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: I would like to read the rest of that paragraph. 620 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: Hear more of TR's reasoning. Very little time, though, So 621 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: let's get right now. So let's get to mail bag. 622 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: Woo woo. Why don't you communicate? 623 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: Hmm, drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong egeeddi 624 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: dot com is the email address. Give him as short 625 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: as is reasonable. I mean, if you're brilliant, and that 626 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: brilliant voice to me, go on for a while. 627 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: That's fuck. 628 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: James writes just a few words. First of all, there's 629 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: no such thing as Twitter, it doesn't exist. Second, Jackson, idiot, 630 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 3: Joseph moron, sincerely James, and he signs his full name. 631 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: I would like to break down between idiot and moron. 632 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, James, if you could write back and elucidate a 633 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: little further, we'd appreciate it. 634 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: There's one rank higher than the other. I don't know. Well, 635 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: I think we both want to know that. Yeah, that's right. 636 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 3: Who is the greater maroon in in your opinion? Sir 637 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: JT and livermore frequent correspondent writes, I can't be the 638 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: only person who hears about those astronauts who them marked 639 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: on a very short tripped outer space and only ended 640 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: up stranded there for a very long time. I can't 641 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: be the only one who hears that and thinks of 642 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: the Gilligan's Island theme song. 643 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: A three hour tour, A three hour tour. 644 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: Surely some musically creative person could put together a spoof 645 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: music video. It's got to be out there, or have 646 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: your computer do it? Ay, I could do it in 647 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: like a minute. Speaking of Ai note, let's see Mark 648 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: yesterday you find Jen spoke of the seven Dwarfs being 649 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: done via CGI and yet though in the idiot snow 650 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: White movie, and their voices still have to be done 651 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 3: by actual dwarves. Though why, I mean, if a man 652 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: can play a woman get nominated for an oscar, why 653 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: can't a large or normal sized person. Do the voices 654 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: of dwarfs and the cgi snow White love the show? 655 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 3: Katie's great the perfect amount of great American sarcasm. 656 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I would agree. 657 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: Signs off from Frog's Nipple. Ohio, I've never been a 658 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: frog nipples since, but it's lovely this time here speaking 659 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: of the awful, awful Snow White movie that nobody will see, 660 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 3: Garrick Wrights, you made no mention that Disney loves diversity 661 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 3: so much that they can't even make snow White white. 662 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: If there was one character you'd think they'd leave alone, 663 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: unlike the Little Mermaid, for instance, it'd be snow effing white. 664 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: I see the hispanic order of nobody on the right 665 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: cares really do that? Don't care? No, I don't care. 666 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: I got to admit it be weird if she was 667 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: black and called herself snow white. But whatever, I'm not 668 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 3: gonna see the movie anyway. Oh, we're out of time, 669 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: damn it, the cruelty of the clock. We've got plenty 670 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: more hours to go. 671 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: If you miss a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and 672 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 4: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty