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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West

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Speaker 1: hod Kuitz. Were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. It's almost here. Packers and Bears

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Speaker 1: will kick it off Sunday noon Central Time at Soldier Field,

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Speaker 1: just off Lake George Drive on the south side of Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Our last show of the week, and that means keys

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Speaker 1: to victory. I've got actually a fairly lengthy list of

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Speaker 1: keys to victory here. So where do you want to

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Speaker 1: see a Santais? Where do you want to start with

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Speaker 1: this one? Well, I'll start off with the fact that

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Speaker 1: I need to get a lot of Christmas shopping done

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Speaker 1: on Saturday evening down the Miracle Mile. There you go.

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Speaker 1: You gotta check off some things in that regard. It's

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Speaker 1: a good place to do it. A long way to

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Speaker 1: go yet, uh No, But I think the biggest key,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Petton said it flat out when he was

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Speaker 1: at the podium on Thursday night, was whoever wins the

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Speaker 1: turnover differential is going to win this game. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can flash back to some previous episodes of the

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Speaker 1: Friday's keys of victory, and a lot of times it

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Speaker 1: is the takeaways. But when you look at how prestigious

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Speaker 1: so far this season the Bears have been at taking

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Speaker 1: away the football, proficient I think was the word. I

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Speaker 1: was trying to go for prodigious, prodigious works too, all

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Speaker 1: those works other than what I actually said, But no,

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Speaker 1: I mean just how efficient they've been and being able

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Speaker 1: to take away the football and then in some regard

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Speaker 1: for the most part, protected win that battle. That's what's

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Speaker 1: allowed them to be nine and four. So if the

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Speaker 1: Packers are going to be able to stand up to that,

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Speaker 1: if they're going to be able to challenge the Bears

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Speaker 1: to to pull off what I think people are considered

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Speaker 1: to be an upset, even though they do have eight

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Speaker 1: consecutive wins at Soldier Field. You need to be able

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Speaker 1: to win that. So Mike Petton and his dfense they

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Speaker 1: understand that. And Jaire Alexander was asked about this in

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Speaker 1: the locker room. Like you know, is so much being

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Speaker 1: made about the Packers offense against the Bears defense, But

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Speaker 1: there's a Packers defense too that's very hungry to take

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Speaker 1: that momentum that they started against the Falcons. Well, and

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Speaker 1: it's funny because when you look back at the recent

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Speaker 1: history here of the Packers and Bears, I'm talking the

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Speaker 1: last decade or so, every game, and there have been

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Speaker 1: plenty of highly competitive games, but you can almost point

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Speaker 1: to a turnover play or turnover like play as a

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Speaker 1: turning point in the game. I mean, I'm thinking obviously

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship. B J Rodgie gets the pick six,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers makes the tackle on Brian Urlacker when he

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Speaker 1: throws the interception in Urlacher looks like he might be

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Speaker 1: going ninety plus yards for a touchdown. Two thousand thirteen,

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Speaker 1: remember the ball came out and everybody stood there looking

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Speaker 1: at it, and Jared Boykin picked it up and ran

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Speaker 1: it in for a touchdown for the Packers. Um the

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Speaker 1: opener this year, Kyle Boller has uh the ball an

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Speaker 1: interception basically hit him right in the chest. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: hold onto it. The Packers drive for the winning touchdown

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Speaker 1: with Randall Cobbs. So this game, it's gonna have one

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Speaker 1: of those type of plays you just know what, you

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Speaker 1: sense it, you feel it, you hope it goes the

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Speaker 1: Packers way. Yeah, that's why I put on, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of my inbox efforts this week, expect the unexpected,

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Speaker 1: because something always happens, and it isn't necessarily leaving those

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Speaker 1: game changing plays. It's Clay Matthews being an inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: and that being a turning point in the Packers season. Uh,

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Speaker 1: It's it's being able to utilize some of these weapons

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. The fact that they ran back to back

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Speaker 1: screenplays with Aaron Jones that you know that they were

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Speaker 1: willing to do some of the things they did offensively

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Speaker 1: to build some momentum early on and let those offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen get settled. You have to be unpredictable, without question.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there's a lot of those things

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Speaker 1: go back to those San Francisco teams, Mike that were

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Speaker 1: really good in the early two thousand tens, That's what

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio's group did exceedingly well, and they had tremendous

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Speaker 1: to be one in the trenches, both on the Packers

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Speaker 1: to protect Aaron Rodgers, I think the other factor that

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Speaker 1: with Jamal Williams. I know, the Bears are number two

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Speaker 1: single digits and lots of categories defensively this season. But

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Speaker 1: when when I look at what I saw of the

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff's hands. He ends up throwing four interceptions and

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Speaker 1: and the turnovers were far and away the difference in

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Speaker 1: that game. I think the Packers are gonna have to

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Speaker 1: to be stubborn about it. That's gonna be the best

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Speaker 1: to protect the football from this turnover crazy defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and all year long, Mike, we talked about Jamal Williams

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Speaker 1: I absolutely loved and I know there's probably some fantasy

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Speaker 1: And the question was asked Brian Angeliqio, the Packers tight

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Speaker 1: mar cites Lewis is a great UH player to have

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to get comfortable. If Aaron Rodgers gets comfortable,

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Speaker 1: if he has over a hundred passer rating in this game,

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Speaker 1: I think the Packers win it. Honestly, I truly do,

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Speaker 1: because when you look at it from Mitchell Trubisky side

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Speaker 1: So I mean, if Aaron Rodgers can actually hit triple

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Speaker 1: I just point that out because I posted a story

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Speaker 1: Paul Horning nineteen sixty. Aaron Jones is at five games

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Speaker 1: right now. He has six rushing touchdowns in those five games.

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