1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Hello friends, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Baseball Podcast. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Chris Welsh. Thank you guys for hanging 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: out with us today. As we continue the big Dynasty 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: talk today, we're talking about Dynasty byes. Tim Kanak is 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: going to be joining me from Fantasy ace Ball to 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: give us a whole crew of some of his favorite 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Dynasty buys. We've talked about some of our favorite players 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: we're targeting in different rounds. Late rounds. These are just 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: straight up buyes by position that you guys are going 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: to want to lock into. 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He is Tim Kannak 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: from Fantasy ace Ball. Tim, what's up, buddy? 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: You doing I'm good, We're doing good. 41 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: You You were the early introduction for me into playing 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: in the OTNO leagues. You are I think you're a 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: great Dynasty player, you're very active in trade talks in 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: that and uh, we are going into year two of ATO, 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: so we're not using this time to talk necessarily about that, 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: but it's a it's a very similar structure, just maybe 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: a little bit more detailed with like arbitration type of 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: stuff out there, which has been fun. But just real quick, 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: how has that transformed your dynasty game? As we're going 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: to get into some Dynasty buys here, you know that 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: that format. I say the format, and I people be like, well, 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: what's the It's not like it's scoring necessarily different. It's 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: just a it's on fangrass platform and you know, like 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: I said, there's a few more bigger detailed information pieces 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: that go into it for Dynasty, which are pretty great. 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Is it kind of transformed your process in approaching Dynasty 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: leagues at all? 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's definitely made me think more about player values, 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: as like, you don't get hooked to a guy because 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: a lot of the time when we're playing Dynasty, where 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: it's like, oh I had Elie de la Cruz when 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: he was an a ball and now I have him forever. Yeah, 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: me right, and you just get hooked into a guy 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: and you. 65 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Keep a pretty great feeling, though I will point out 66 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: that it's a pretty great feeling when it is. 67 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: Like that, yeah, exactly. But the so odd New it 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: kind of it's almost like stocks, right, You almost want 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: to play your guys like stocks, where once people once 70 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: a player has a certain value, then maybe they're not 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: worth it as much anymore. So, Hey, I have Ellie 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: de la Cruz, but oh, because of arbitration, now he's 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: twenty bucks, so maybe he's not the value that he 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: would be in other dynasty leagues. So it kind of 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: just provides like, like a value. It makes you think 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: more about the players even if you're not playing Got New. 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: But if you play odd New in some leagues and 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: you're in a non New league, it still puts that 79 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: idea in your head of, oh, this guy is at 80 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: a certain value right now, and maybe I can you know, 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: use that value to leverage another type of trade or 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: deal based on me thinking, hey, this guy's value is 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: up or down or above the market below the market 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: at this time. So when you play odd New, it 85 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: just puts in your mind like, Okay, this guy is 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: averaging twelve dollars on New, but he's eighteen dollars or whatever. 87 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: It just gives kind of like a basis or a 88 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: line of like what's good versus what's bad when you're 89 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: valuing certain guys for Dynasty. 90 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the best thing I'd say for everybody is 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: it's like an auction. You start with auction. That's how 92 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: that goes. Everything is normal, the platform, normal matchups, normal scoring, 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. The biggest difference after the 94 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: auction is that everybody has the opportunity to throw arbitration 95 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: dollars on players. So I got smacked this year with 96 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: like my Harper, and then everybody was the entire season, 97 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: every human being was trying to get Jackson holiday from 98 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: me and offering me forty dollars players, which I never 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: bit on, but then people hit me with arbitration after. 100 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: But then you get to hit them with arbitration. So 101 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: that's how it goes. So you know, your one dollar 102 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: player can become nine dollars by the end of arbitration. 103 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what Tim is talking about here. 104 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: That is an interesting value perspective of Dynasty. Money or not, 105 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: that doesn't change necessarily the players that we're looking at 106 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: at buying and usually the dynasty buys are players that 107 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: haven't had the big breakouts, except in some cases where 108 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: some of these players might be just undervalue. There's actually 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: a pitcher in here you and I were talking about 110 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: off air that has been a i would say, pretty 111 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: highly dynasty valued player for some time and is at 112 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: his all time low. So we are going to be 113 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: talking about dynasty buys. These are Tim's Dynasty buys here, 114 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to do that. You can check them 115 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: over on the Fantasy ace Ball Podcast and we'll talk 116 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more about that later. We have to 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: set out positionally. We've got a lot to get to, 118 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: so Tim, let's jump into it, and let's talk about 119 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: our first player catcher. This is a great one. You 120 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: are buying bow Naylor in Dynasty, So talk to us 121 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: a tiny bit about why you want to buy him 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: as your dynasty catcher right now. 123 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little bit stealthy because everyone thinks about 124 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: Adli and even like Jen your Diaz is very popular 125 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: right now and Frankie Alvarez, uh so Naylor's kind of 126 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: taking a back seat because you have these tiers. Okay, 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: we had Adli and now we've got Alvarez and then 128 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: next is Sallas. But then when it's it's like, okay, 129 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: everyone's forgotten about Bo, right, So Bo is just kind 130 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: of hidden in there. And I do my f scores. 131 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm not really going to get into it, but I 132 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: basically just look at every single player and kind of 133 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: like ops, plus I take certain skills and try to see, Okay, 134 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: if it's above a hundred, it's good. Uh So, just 135 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: to put this into perspective, the only catcher with over 136 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: one hundred power and speed besides JT. Real Muto is 137 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: Bo Naylor. So you can get steals and you can 138 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: get power from Bo, and he's kind of like I 139 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: would almost say he's like an OBP version of JT. 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: Real Muto. Is he's not going to hit for the 141 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: average that JT hits for, but he's gonna get on 142 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: base a lot. So from eight fifteen, and I talked 143 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: about this a lot on the Fantasy Aaseball podcast from 144 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: August fifteenth on Bo Naylor hit two eighty six three 145 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: ninety four six oh four with seven homers in four 146 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: steals and why is August fifteenth so important? That's really 147 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: about the date when he started getting regular playing time. 148 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: He was sitting probably two three times a week before 149 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: that point in time, and then they finally decided let's 150 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: just play bo every single day, and that's when he 151 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: was really able to catch on a tear. I mean, 152 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: the thing you can talk about, is that a heater 153 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: or is it? Hey, this guy's playing regularly now, so 154 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: he's able to get into a groove and finally kind 155 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: of like do what he was doing in the minors 156 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: at the major league level. 157 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and as you said, I mean he stole double 158 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: digit bases in two different levels, two thousand and one 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: and two thousand and twenty two levels, Like in twenty 160 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: twenty two he ended up stealing twenty bases twenty twenty one, 161 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: it was ten twenty nineteen seventy five. So I mean, 162 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: he's kept that increase. Athletic guy, there's some big power 163 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: numbers in there. Hit eleven homers in sixty seven games. 164 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Strikeouts are nothing crazy. He's not exactly his brother. He 165 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: did not light up a lot of the underlying metrics 166 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: expected stats. He overperformed unexpected stats, and it was low 167 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: hard hit. But he is an impressive athlete that's going 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: to be given more of an opportunity, and I think 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: this is sneaky, as you said, the Ramuto like finding 170 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: opportunities for play. I've always said this, when you find 171 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: players that overperformed categories that that position doesn't give you, 172 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: that is an advantage. It's less and what I'm talking 173 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: about stolen bases. Really that's less now with how widespread 174 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: stolen bases are increasing. But you find stolen bases at 175 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: third base, that's fun. You find stolen bases at the 176 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: catching position, it's very fun, especially when there's twenty home 177 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: run potential power Steamer projection hasn't put him up in 178 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: that range, except they're just not projecting the playing time. 179 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Ninety seven games, fourteen homers. That's what you guys can 180 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: sit on with a better batting average, which I think 181 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: is a key point here. Going over to first base 182 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: two great one. I'm in when I'm not in. I 183 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: wrote in the Fantasy Black Book, Joe Pisapias Fantasy Black Book, 184 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: which people are gonna be able to check out. I 185 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: covered the entire infield and there are all the reasons 186 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: in the world to love the young guy. I don't 187 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: want to say all your names every single time. I 188 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: want you to be able to say them. And then 189 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: there's the more old, krusty boring, not super old veteran, 190 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: but veteran in here. So talk to us about the 191 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: first the two first basemen that you like. You'll know 192 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: which one I'm in on, and you guys will probably 193 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: know which one I'm not in on here, So why 194 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: are these buys for you? 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I wanted to talk about Spencer Torkolsen and 196 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: Nate low So. Tork I was just so out on 197 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: last year. At the beginning of the year, I was like, 198 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, he's not doing it. I was very 199 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: down on him. Obviously. Tiger's Ballpark and this is the 200 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: main thing to keep in mind. His ballpark rating for 201 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: Ridy's is last in power has a seventy nine park 202 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: factor for Ridy's in Detroit, worst ballpark in baseball for Riety's. 203 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: And this is kind of what we saw from Tortos 204 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: in last year. He hit thirty one homers, twenty on 205 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 2: the road and eleven at home. But this is where 206 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: he really started to figure it out. In August. In 207 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: September he hit sixteen homers total, but seven of them 208 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: were at home, so seven of his eleven homers that 209 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: he hit the whole season at home or in the 210 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: last two months of the season. So that makes me 211 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: think maybe he figured out something with the ballpark, like hey, 212 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: if I hit the ball a certain way, or if 213 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: I pull it to a certain area, it's more likely 214 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: to go out of the stadium. Just seeing that makes 215 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: it provides me more confidence that he's going to be 216 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: more consistent at home next year, which is just the 217 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: biggest thing with Tiger's hitters. It's like, what can you 218 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: do with Tigers hitters? 219 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I'd add in this is something I 220 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: put in the Black Book. He had, you know, the 221 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: batting average issues, but they were lifted up by hard 222 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: hit numbers. He had a fourteen point one percent barrel rate, 223 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: which was fifth best among first basemen when you look 224 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: at that, when you look at those other four barrel percentage, 225 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: I was Olsen, Harper, Alonso, and then there's like a 226 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: weird outlier of Belt only Olsen had a higher hard 227 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: hit percentage than Torkulsen. And one thing that I kind 228 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: of dug of that same group, if you're looking at 229 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: like optimism for batting average to taking those same guys, Alonzo, Harper, Olsen. 230 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: Thorklsen had the best in zone contact percentage of all 231 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: those players at eighty two point four percent, and he 232 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: had a pretty wildly higher expected batting average of two 233 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: fifty one, So you get two fifty one with those 234 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: big hard hit numbers. He's creating a floor for himself, 235 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: which I really like, I just haven't loved Nate Low, 236 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: and I'm really curious about that for you, because obviously, 237 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: like he he's established himself as like, hey, I don't 238 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: chase and I'm pretty safe. I got, you know, maybe 239 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: better opp guy twelve percent walk rate, but he's like 240 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: mightily struggled against lefties. His hard hit percentage on a 241 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: three year low, its Kid continued to dip down to 242 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: forty one point six percent, and of qualified first baseman 243 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: he thirty fifth. He ranked thirty fifth of forty five 244 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: of barrel percentage, which barrel percentage can be like overplated, 245 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: but like I really pay attention to that with big 246 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: sluggers and home run hitters. So I'm just kind of 247 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: down on Low. But that's maybe more from a this 248 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: year thing, which you have to be focused on in Dynasty. 249 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: It's not just necessarily about this year, but you and 250 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I were talking off air, and I'll let you explain it. 251 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not even so much about low being this 252 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: big production boost like Torkolsen is. Maybe it's just about 253 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: people letting some certain players slide that can fill out 254 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: your team. 255 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Like I'm not in love with him. I 256 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: just think he's solid and he's falling a lot like 257 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: his ADP this year. I mean we're talking Dynasty before 258 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: his ADP. This year, he's nineteenth for first basement. I've 259 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: got him at thirteenth. And one of the things when 260 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: I was doing my f scores is he more or 261 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: less is like the same guy as Spencer Steer. The 262 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: difference is, you know, Steers has great American ballpark helping him, 263 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: but even with those parks, they're very close to the 264 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: same guys. Do you have some position eligibility that bumps 265 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: him up a little bit, so that helps, But I 266 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: think you can kind of expect from both guys, like 267 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: around twenty homers and eighty ish plus runs an RBI 268 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: each and he's in a good lineup, and if you 269 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: can get him at a very good discount, he's still 270 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: only twenty eight like he had twenty three or twenty 271 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: four homers a couple of years ago. So we can 272 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: see that home run rate bounce back up a little 273 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: bit from last year. And I just think it's you know, 274 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: I don't love him. I just think that he's cheap 275 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: right now for what he brings to the table. 276 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: Could you give us the I know you said you 277 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: want to get into it. Could you give this a 278 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: ten cent tour of F scores? So if you're referring 279 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: to it, I think i'd be helpful for people, like, 280 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: like I said, ten cent tour of what people should 281 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: wrap their head around. F scores are. 282 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically the F scores I take for hitters 283 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: and pitchers, different categories. For hitters, I've got contact, discipline, power, speed, 284 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 2: and durability. And I take each of those five categories. 285 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: And what I do is I have certain stats that 286 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: play into it, like barrel rate, whatever. I have stats 287 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: that I picked that I think are very good, and 288 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: I use those to determine each skill. And so each skill, 289 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: if you're one hundred, just like OPS plus or WRC plus, 290 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: if you're one hundred, your league average, right, And so 291 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: basically that's what that gives. And I go through every 292 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: single player in the offseason, and it takes me, like 293 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: I probably spent three or four hundred hours like manually 294 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: entering data, which is not the funnest thing in the 295 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: world to do. But I've got Nate Low one spot 296 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: ahead of Spencer Steer in my first base rankings, and 297 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: they're more or less the same guy. Steer has a 298 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: little bit better speed, Low has a little bit better 299 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: plate discipline and a slightly higher contact tool as for 300 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: my f scores, but they're pretty much in the same range, 301 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: like they're both right about right next to each other, 302 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: and that's including Steer's ballpark lift. So Steer, obviously the 303 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: position eligibility might add some value to him over Low, 304 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: But when you're drafting and you're looking at like six 305 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: seven spots of ranking difference, I think Low is pretty 306 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: solid down the road versus guys like can he do it? 307 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: Yandi Diaz does, and Yandi Diaz is going higher? Can 308 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: you do it? Vinn p is gonna do he probably, 309 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: and he's gonna go quite a bit higher. So there 310 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: are guys going higher than Low, and I think you 311 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: can just get good value on him. 312 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: So it's like a Fantasy WRC plus type of thing. Yeah, basically, 313 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: but is it tied to positions or is it just 314 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: tied to overall, because then that would be more of 315 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: a fantasy war. 316 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tied to overall. So basically, I take the average, 317 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: like I'm doing when I'm taking my stats, I'll take 318 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: the average. Okay, what is the average batting average from 319 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: last year? And then or what is the average contact rate? 320 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Like I don't use batting average as a as a indicator, 321 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: but like barrel rate, what's the average barrel rate? So then, oh, 322 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: this guy's barrel rate was seventeen percent higher than average, 323 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: So that's going to help their power rating and my power. 324 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: Go on more or less. That's great. Yeah, no, it's great. 325 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I just of people that kind of have a understanding 326 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: of that. As we are moving forward, let's go over 327 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: to second base. Here to great names, to young names. 328 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: Matt McClain, who ended up missing some time, but was 329 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, there was a little small moment where someone 330 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: could be like, hey, Matt McLean is chasing Corbyn Carroll 331 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: was never happening, but it was getting there. And Edward Julian. 332 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: So I didn't let you name these two. I'll the 333 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: other ones, but I got too excited about these guys. 334 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: These were your two buys. I'm a little bit indifferent. 335 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Matt McClean pretty wildly overplayed a lot of his expected stats. 336 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of regression built into his 337 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: profile from year one, but that doesn't mean you're not 338 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: going to overplay your your potential regression. I really love 339 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: Edward Julian because I think he might be a little 340 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: bit on the opposite opposite end with really good barrel 341 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: rates and stuff like that. So talk to us about 342 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: the byes for both of these players. 343 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the big thing on McClean, right, everyone's 344 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: concerned he had a three eighty five babbit. I'm honestly 345 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: not that concerned about that. He is going to regress, 346 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: but I don't think he's going to regrets that much. 347 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: Eat high babbobs through his hole like a triple A. 348 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: He had a three eighty five babbit there too, so 349 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 2: he's always run high babbobs. And one of the things 350 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: that is going to make him run high babbbs is 351 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: that he had a ninety fourth percentile sweet spot percentage 352 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: and then ninetieth percentile speed sprint speed. So when you 353 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: run fast and you hit the ball in the right spot, 354 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna get a lot of line drives. So you've 355 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: got a guy here who hits line drives. The sweet 356 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: spot percentage is really important for like quality contact, not 357 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: just contact. Are they putting the bat on the ball, 358 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: but that's how you get quality contact. Are you hitting 359 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: the ball in the right spot? Are those sweet spot 360 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: balls are gonna go to holes in the field? Right, 361 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna hit the ball hard enough that it hits 362 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: a hole in the field instead of being caught or 363 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: whatever when you make contact on them. So McClain is 364 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: gonna run a high Babbitt because of those things. And 365 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: you could see even what happened with the Reds when 366 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: mcclan was hurt, like he is the catalyst of that lineup, 367 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: like everybody else in that lineup started flowing when he 368 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: was out, and him hitting at the top of that 369 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: lineup with these all these young guys coming around, your 370 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 2: Ellie de la Cruz is going to get better. All 371 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: these guys are gonna get better, and they're all going 372 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: to grow with McLain. With McLain at the top of 373 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: the lineup in the best ballpark in baseball to hit 374 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: in great American smallpark. Uh So McClain, I think he's 375 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: even at five ADP as a second baseman. I think 376 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: he's still buy I'm still gonna go get him. I'm 377 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: not expecting major regression in the batting. 378 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: App talk to us about Julian because this is one 379 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: of my This is one of my favorites, because I 380 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: think what is going to scare people obviously, is is 381 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: the batting average. I think the strikeout really are the 382 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: strikeouts I shouldn't say even the batting are like the 383 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: strikeouts are going to be something that's just going to 384 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: keep people off. He hit two sixty three. He had 385 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: a pretty regressive like XBA, which I think was two 386 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: thirty six. But Bobo's top ten percent dial, his barrel 387 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: percentage and hard hit were great. Actually, the thirteen point 388 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: one percent barrel rate and forty four point nine percent 389 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: hard hit rate ranked him inside the top five at 390 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: the position if he qualified. He just needed to, you know, 391 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: get there. So the underlying stuff is there with because 392 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: he's an interesting guy because I you know, got to 393 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: see so much of him in the arison a Falliague 394 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: two years ago, where it's a high strikeout rate, but 395 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: he is not a chase necessarily guy, like he keeps 396 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: his bat. It's very similar to what Cavin Bigio did 397 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: from years ago. Like he gets very selective. He doesn't 398 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: swing early, he drives counts, and then he gets really aggressive. 399 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: I think he needs to change that. But like I'm 400 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: down for something like that. I'm down for a guy 401 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: like that, who this isn't a pitch recognition issue. This 402 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: is a selectiveness issue, and he's got all the underlying metrics. 403 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: So like, I really love buying Edward Julian, assuming he's 404 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: coming in at a pretty cheap cost, So you know, give 405 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: us your ten cent tour on Julian. 406 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was actually a huge shot to me. 407 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: So when I take all these guys and I'm doing 408 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: my F scores, I kind of like make a plan 409 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: where I'm like, okay, I like when I was writing 410 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: everyone's name down for second base, I had Julian around 411 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: like fifteen to twenty for second basement, right, which is 412 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: probably where most people have him in ADP. But my 413 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: F scores put him as the sixth best second basement, 414 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: which is insane. Like I don't know if I'm going 415 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: to draft him six out of second basement. But that's 416 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: where my f scores have him, and a lot of 417 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: that has to do with his plate skills. Like you mentioned, 418 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: he has a ridiculously high k rate for the chase rate. 419 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: Like I don't know if I've ever seen a player 420 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: with a thirty one percent strikeout rate and only a 421 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: seventeen percent chase rate. That's exactly right, Yeah, two and two. 422 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: It's like a one plus two equals four. Here. It's 423 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: like something is off. 424 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people like listen, you can understand, like sometimes 425 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: guys can have low k rates with high chase rates, 426 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: but having a really high strikeout rate with a low 427 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: chase rate, that's more of the oddity. And it's what 428 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: I told you. Some players have had this, Like I said, 429 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: Calvin Bigio was an example of this. I want to 430 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: say maybe Carlos Santana at some time. Maybe I'm misremembered, 431 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: but you'll see these guys that will have these like 432 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: higher walk rate and it's just they get really selective. 433 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: They don't drive balls early, they won't get into early counts, 434 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: and then they drive themselves into two strike counts because 435 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: they're very selective to their pitch. And that's something you 436 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: can work on. Over time. Those are guys that I buy. 437 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: But it is such a weird oddity to his strikeouts 438 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: that I think is kind of built into projections. I 439 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: didn't look into this, and projections are going to be 440 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: actually be very interesting once we get like the bat 441 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: projections from Derek Cardy and even like atc in there, 442 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: but they're still projecting like a twenty nine point three percent. 443 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, the dude walked fifteen point seven percent of 444 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: the time while striking out thirty one point four Those 445 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: are that's an oddity. I actually think the strikeouts could 446 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: come down dramatically if that is his off season focus, 447 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: and I'm really hoping it is, because if it becomes 448 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: a twenty four percent strikeout guy with a fifteen percent 449 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: walk rate, this is where and why he's gonna pop up, 450 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: especially like I said, with the barrel and the hard hit. 451 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: This is why he's going to pop up on a 452 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: system like yours as a major buy. So I would want, 453 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: like you're saying, I want to buy him before this happens. 454 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. 455 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a killer in points leagues because of the walks, 456 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: and I think he's going to get those strikeouts down. 457 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean that Chase rate just shows that over time, 458 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: that's something that is going to just go down. And 459 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: Umps on top of it is another thing. Right, you 460 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: have a young guy, a rookie come in, umps are 461 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: going to call strikes on him that might not be strikes. 462 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: And then the more that he's in the league, the 463 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: longer he's in the league, and the better of a 464 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: kind of a name brand he gets with the Umps, 465 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna give him those calls instead of the calls 466 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: going the other way against him. So that's something that 467 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: you see with like young guys versus like older guys 468 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: coming in the league. I feel like every year there's 469 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: a couple guys, like a couple of rookies that come 470 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 2: in and they just get rocked by ups. Like you'll 471 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: see really bad strike calls against them all year and 472 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: you're just like, the Umps just hate this guy. But 473 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: it's like, no, it's a rookie. He just needs to 474 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 2: build this rapport with them. They need to learn like, no, 475 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: actually he sees the strike zone maybe better than the 476 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: UMP does. That's what's going on here. The main thing 477 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: with Julian that a lot of people are concerned about 478 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: is the lefty splits. But he played fifty games in 479 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: August in September between the two months, so I think 480 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: that we're kind of seeing the Twins try to work 481 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: him in against the lefties. That that's what we were 482 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: seeing at the end of the year. So as far 483 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: as like people saying, oh, he's a platoon guy, blah 484 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: blah blah, I'm not really so concerned about that. And 485 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: if he's playing more games, he's going to walk into 486 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: more power. Like he only had three hundred and thirty 487 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: eight at bats last year with sixteen homers. And he 488 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: had a really bad month too. I can't can't remember 489 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: off the top of my head. It was Junior July. 490 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: He had a month where he his fly ball rate 491 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: was like less than twenty percent. It's just atrocious. If 492 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: you're hitting the ball in the ground sixty percent, you're 493 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: not going to hit for power. And he still walked 494 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: away with sixteen homers. 495 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Over it was August twelve percent flyball rate in August 496 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: he had where he had never had an under twenty 497 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: two percent and average twenty seven percent in the first 498 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: half versus essentially twenty two percent in the second half. 499 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: So that was an outlier. Also, you know what I 500 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: would add to that too. Let's see what the twins do. 501 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: There's all these rumors abou Jorge Polanco potentially being a 502 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: trade option. If Polanco goes to me, that tells even 503 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: a tiny bit more of a story that this team 504 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: is comfortable with Julian every day and not needing any 505 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: type of split thing going on. Let's jump over to 506 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna pair these two together because there's a similarity here. 507 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: You're third and short, so we're taking the left side 508 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: of the infield because you picked two guys that are 509 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: still prospect eligible, that both made their debuts this past year. 510 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: And these are your buys, tim They're not going to 511 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: come cheap, but you want these players in dynasty. So 512 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: these are your dynasty buys at short and third. 513 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I short, I have Jordan Lawler here. I 514 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: think now is the best time. This is your last chance. Really, 515 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: it's like it's like last call, last call Forde Jordan 516 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: Lawler right now because right now he's not projected to 517 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: break the you know, break camp with the team thanks 518 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: to a Hennyo Suarez joining the team. So like that 519 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: really just like is giving anyone who really wants Lawler. 520 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: This Suarez acquisition a chance to go get him because 521 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: trust me and you know as a DBAGS fan, Although 522 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: Perdomo is not going to stop Jordan Lawler from coming 523 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: up and starting a shortstop like, he is not going 524 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: to be the reason if they really want Lawler. If 525 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: you know, if Lawler has a killer spring, there's a 526 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: chance in my mind that Perdomo can easily move to 527 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: second and you move Marte back to the outfield or whatever, 528 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: you've got a DH spot open. There's all kinds of 529 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: things you get. 530 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Want them to do. I want them to do that 531 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: what you're saying, I do think this is nick I 532 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: met all over again, because Perdomo is a plus defender 533 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: and he overperformed through the root. You don't even want 534 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: to look at his underlying stats. Perdoma did. There's also 535 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: an all star. So like to what you're saying, I 536 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: do think Perdomo actually could hold Lawler back, but more 537 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: in a platoony type of role where instead of playing 538 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: let's say six of seven days, he's playing four to 539 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: five a couple days at shortstop for'd almost moving over 540 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: to second. Johannio is dhing one day. It's also going 541 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: to be very important to pay attention. If the Diamonbacks 542 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: were to sign a JD. Martinez, that will take the 543 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: DH spot away from a guy like Johanniol Suarez. If 544 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: they were to sign a Solaire, Solayer can move into 545 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: the outfield, they can really like, they can move some 546 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: stuff around. So to your point, though, I one thousand 547 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: percent agree, this is the last opportunity to buy Lawlor 548 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: if this is gonna work, and the cost is pretty cheap. 549 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: So this is the difference between your drafts or buying 550 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: in your leagues. This is somebody we both agree like. 551 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: This is twenty twenty potential, and he will get at 552 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: bats this year. I do believe that he will get 553 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: four hundred plus at bats. What the Diamondbacks do in 554 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: the next forty five days is probably going to be 555 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: very imperative to what it looks like that we can 556 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: guess before spring to There's a million things can happen 557 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: when spring training goes on and when the season starts, 558 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: but but we can start projecting the next thirty days 559 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: to forty five days are probably really important. 560 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And then Cameron Aro for a third base, 561 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: I think there's a really good shot he's gonna break camp. 562 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they already brought him up. And once you 563 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: once you bring someone up and they're already on the 564 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: forty man, they've already you know, they've already played. There's 565 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: no benefit really to putting him down. I feel like 566 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: when you bring a guy up and then send it 567 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: back down, it almost does more harm than good. We've 568 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: seen in the past of some of these prospects. At 569 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: this point, I think they just you know, they're gonna 570 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: bring him up. And third base is just a dynasty group. 571 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: Is a lot of old guys, right, like Jay ram 572 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 2: Manny Ernato, Like a lot of these third basemen are 573 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: kind of on the older end. You've got Endeavors and 574 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: Riley in their prime, I guess, but a lot of 575 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: the other guys are older, and I feel like you 576 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: should kind of keep that in mind if you're doing 577 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: like a brand new dynasty league or something like that, 578 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: I would think about drafting Cameron Arrow higher than someone 579 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: even like than like Jackson Holiday. And it also depends 580 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: on the league type, because if you're in you know, 581 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: if you're in a regular batting average roto league, maybe 582 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: Holiday you want to go for the batting average but 583 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: I think that in a lot of leagues, Like if 584 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: you're in OPS or OBP or points leagues, you might 585 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: want to go Camonaro over Holiday. 586 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I see that for the big power numbers. But 587 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: what do you say to a team that's like competing, 588 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: Like if it were a fresh draft and you want 589 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: to win now, are you gonna take camin I mean, 590 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: because Camonaro is tough here, because Cameronarow could be top 591 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: twenty in a lot of people's minds for Dynasty could 592 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: be somewhere in the forties. So I mean, are you 593 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: gonna take You're not gonna take caman Aro over Riley, 594 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: I would hope, or or I mean Devers. Is an 595 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: interesting question, like how do you approach win now with 596 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: a guy like Camanara and with Lawler? Kind of like 597 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: what's the limit? Are you saying I want Camanaro over Machado, 598 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: which I think some Dynasty people will be like, yeah, 599 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: But so like, what's what's the range of how you 600 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: deal with a guy like that. 601 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking I'm taking him over Machado, I'm taking 602 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 2: over Lewis Devers. Is that might be the line? Like 603 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 2: the Devers Austin Riley line that I think that's the 604 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: line right there. 605 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: So what do you have him at like three or 606 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: four in your third base Dynasty ranks? 607 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got it. I've got yeah, I've got him 608 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: around like five in a tier. So he's he's you know, 609 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: behind Bobby Witt and Ellie and Gunner and Jose. So 610 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 2: I've got him. 611 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Okay, ye, there was right. 612 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got him grouped there with like Austin Riley 613 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: and Devers. 614 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. But I mean those are guys 615 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: that you want to buy, and what is interesting about 616 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: you bringing those guys up. We've had a lot of 617 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: focus on like when now versus like one foot in, 618 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: one out and playing for the future. I think specifically 619 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: cam and Aro plays an all Lawler might be a 620 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: little bit like, hey, I want one foot in, one 621 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: foot out. His cost is at his lowest, Camon Arrows 622 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: is not Cavion Arrow's value if if you could argue 623 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: is that it's highest that it's ever been because he's 624 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: he you know, playing time seems to be there. He 625 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: also just came off of an incredibly great Dominican Winner 626 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: League where he was second in as of like you know, 627 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. So Cam and Arow's cost is at 628 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: an all time high. So whether it's draft or whatever, 629 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: you know how to approach him. But he works for 630 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: that kind of winnish Now team Lawler is a little 631 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: bit tougher. 632 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna be one of the guys that hits the 633 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: ground running too. Like I do a lot this offseason, 634 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: I did a ton of research on this transition from 635 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: minor leagues to major leagues, like what do the stats 636 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: actually look like when you're jumping levels? And I had 637 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: some podcasts on it. I did a lot of research 638 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: on it. And Cam and Arrow is just a lot 639 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: of the rookies, there's gonna be a big drop right 640 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: when they come up right, like even from tripa A, 641 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: there's just a big drop. Like Camon Arrow is just 642 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: one of the guys that reads out because of his 643 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: hit tool, because of how hard he hits the ball, 644 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: Like he's just gonna come up and kill it from 645 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: day one. 646 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: And hopefully they give him the opportunity. Moving over to 647 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: the outfield, we have picked maybe the hottest name in 648 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: the prospect world and a guy that I couldn't shut 649 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: up about last year. Apparently you couldn't either, we're both 650 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: still in on your outfield ynasty buys. We got two 651 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: for everybody, so let's hear him. 652 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: All right, So my first guy is White Langford, and 653 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: everyone's like, yeah, yeah, everybody knows about White Langford right now. 654 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: But I think that Langford, especially with this news that 655 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: he's like that, he's probably gonna break camp. Like I 656 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: would be taking Langford over guys like Mike Trout even 657 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: like a one year league, like not even dynasty. But 658 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: if I'm playing in like an FBC, I'm gonna probably 659 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: take him over Mike Trout, over Jazz, over Randy Rosarana, 660 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: and taking him over his teammate Evan Carter. That's how 661 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: high I am on White Langford Dynasty. You're taking him 662 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: over a Dolies like your team is so high. He's 663 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: up in that first tier with guys like Bets. Maybe 664 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: not maybe not with like Tucker and j Rod, but 665 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: he's in that next tier down with like Bets and 666 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: your don At Harper and guys guys like that. That's 667 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: how good he can be. So I just, you know, 668 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: maybe I'm overblowing it a little bit, but I think. 669 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: I've got him top twenty five. I got him top 670 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: twenty five in Dynasty, he he's up between fifteen and 671 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: twenty five. I think in a lot of people's minds, 672 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: I just think like people might not have wrapped their 673 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: head around like how valuable he is. And again, he 674 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: is one of those that kind of can cut that 675 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: line of being able to help you immediately. You and 676 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: I have not left the large Newt Bar train. We 677 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: are you and I are conducting. You're still you know, 678 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: you do the coal. I'll steer, and then I'll let 679 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: you steer for a bit. I'll fire up some of 680 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: the coal. We are still team large Newt Bar. And 681 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: what a better time to buy than when people are like, oh, 682 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: this didn't work out. 683 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So his ADP right now in NFBC is 684 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: forty five. I've got him as my twenty seventh outfielder 685 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: just for this year alone. He's still only twenty six. Like, 686 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: just because he got hurt last year, that doesn't mean 687 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: he's not good right like he was he got injured 688 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: Day one. I'm a Cardinals fan, and Opening Day he 689 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: was like stealing a base and injured his hand or 690 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: something like that, and he was not right for like 691 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: a month after the first day of the season, so 692 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: he killed it for Team Japan. Everyone was all over 693 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: him and then he just played the whole year. Last 694 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: year there was one injury to another and he got hurt. 695 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: He hit the il like three or four different times 696 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: last year. So if he comes back and is healthy 697 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: and right now he's projected to hit third in the 698 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals lineup, they're projecting Donovan Goldie, new Bar Aeronado, so 699 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: he's hitting third in between Goldi and Aeronado with hopefully 700 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: a healthy team this year. As a Cardinals fan, and 701 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: I think that new Bar is gonna have a big year. 702 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: He's big for OBP, for points leagues like this is 703 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: if you're in a points leaguer OBP league, this is 704 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: a guy you chase. 705 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm in on pretty much every format 706 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: I want. Finally, we're gonna go to the starting pitchers. 707 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: We have three starting pitchers for you. I tease there 708 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: is a more old krusty name. That boy was really 709 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: fun the last couple of years, and people with the 710 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: injury have just kind of kicked him out. We have 711 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: a young injury guy and we have a huge breakout 712 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: from this past year. So your big three dynasty buys 713 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: that starting pitcher are who. 714 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: We've got Joe Muskrove. I have him coming into the 715 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: season as my number eight starting pitcher, so he's still 716 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 2: a top ten MSP for me. He's still only thirty 717 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: one years old, so a lot of people, I think, 718 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: think he's older maybe than he really is, because he's 719 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: been around for a while. Over the last three years, 720 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: he has had over a nineteen percent CA minus wall great, 721 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: so three years in a row that's pretty good. It 722 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: shows how consistent he is. Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one, 723 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty two he had thirty starts in all 724 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: three of those seasons, so obviously twenty twenty COVID. So 725 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: it's not like he's an injury prone guy either. He 726 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: had an injury last year, but before that he was 727 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: a very consistent starter, put up one hundred and seventy 728 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 2: hundred eighty innings pretty much every year the last few 729 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: years behind that, and then the Padres have a really 730 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: good defense too, and they're in a pitcher's park, So 731 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: those are things that when you're taking starters you need 732 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: to consider. And then it also depends on if you're 733 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: playing in wins or quality starts leagues. Musgrove is a guy. 734 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: When he starts, he usually goes pretty deep and is 735 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: going to get you quality starts or the padres hopefully 736 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: right for pod fans are going to be better than 737 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: last year, and you'll be able to get a decent 738 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: amount of wins with Musgrove going to the year. So 739 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: I think Musgrove has been very consistent over the long haul, 740 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: and last year with those injuries, people are going to 741 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: think maybe that he's not as consistent as he actually is. 742 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: We've got the two. These are two younger names. I 743 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: love the Musgrove one. I am all in. I'm buying 744 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: Musgrove right now. That age is not does not age 745 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: me out of anything. I think he's a tremendous buy 746 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: because his cost is as low as it's been since 747 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: Pirate days. I mean, that's kind of what it is. 748 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: So give me Joe Musgrove. These two. One I think 749 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: is a very hot name. I think a lot of 750 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: people don't know what to do about this Baltimore Orioles 751 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: starting pitcher. So why don't you walk us through your 752 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: two younger starting pitcher buys. 753 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Kyle Bradish I have as my number eighteen 754 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: starter coming into the year and that's that's for one year, 755 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: right for dynasty, I'd probably have him a little bit higher. 756 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: He's twenty seven years old, which throws people off because 757 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: I think he was one of these guys that came 758 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: up and then he wasn't very good when he first 759 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 2: came up, so a lot of people just wrote him off. 760 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: But last year in the second half, he had a 761 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: two to one four ERA, a ninety three whip, twenty 762 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 2: point six k minus wall create and a one hundred 763 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: and thirty stuff plus in all of baseball. Last year 764 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: he was second in stuff plus to Corbyn Burns in 765 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: the second half. And on top of it, he has 766 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: three plus pitches, the fastball, slider in curve, and the 767 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: slider has the best stuff plus in baseball of any 768 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: pitch at one seventy seven in the second half per 769 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: you know, stuff plus rankings. So Bradish I think, yeah, 770 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: it's crazy, he's still going to his peak, like he 771 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: could get better even like that second half. I don't 772 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 2: think it's aberration. I think that all these this stuff 773 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: backs it up. It's not like the Jack Flaherty second 774 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: half that we had a few years back. Yeah, we 775 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: had like a one era. None of the stuff backed 776 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: it up. He had like a four Sierra when he 777 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: had that one era. I'll tell you everything backs up 778 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: that this is legit. 779 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: The one thing I've really been wanting. I mean, the 780 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: the Kreik Kimberl thing I think does say a lot 781 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: about this team as well. Like the thing everybody wants 782 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: to hear is please let that bullpen be locked down 783 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: for these younger Oriole starters. Get Cano. I'm obviously Batista 784 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: being lost stinks, but get Cano, get Kimberl, get something else. 785 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: I also want you. I want to see more consolidation. 786 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: I want them to move like as I want the 787 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: Dambacks to do. I want the Orioles to take a 788 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: couple of those pieces and go and trade for one 789 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: more really great starter that pushes the matchups down a 790 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: little bit for these guys, and maybe consolidate to bring 791 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: in a leadership of a bat to go along with 792 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: guys like Jackson Holiday and Gunner Henderson. And you know, 793 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe Kirstad's gone, maybe Kobe Mayo has to go, which 794 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: will stink for prospect people, but you know, get like 795 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: a big leader bat and then a big starting pitcher, 796 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: and you look at those things and you go, my god, 797 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: if you've got obviously the diamonback's kind of set up 798 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: precedent for this, like young, exciting team. But if you 799 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: have a lot, if you've got run support, you've got 800 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: defensive support, you've got bullpen support. That's where guys like 801 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: Bratish can throw. You can thrive in a situation where 802 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: wins are going to be there, where there's end of 803 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: games support from your bullpen. And you worry a little 804 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: bit when a team is way too young offensively that 805 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: you're going to go through some low lows and maybe 806 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: some high highs that they're making the moves that you 807 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: want to see. I just want to continue to get 808 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: them going that you want to buy now before all 809 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: that starts to happen. I think this is surprisingly actually 810 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: still a good time with bradish. Final one here you 811 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: had Shane Boss very popular in kind of the draft 812 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: community because everybody forgot about Boss. 813 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, coming back from injury. He was a top forty 814 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: starter the year before he got hurt, Like everyone was 815 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: drafting him top forty. I think I picked him like 816 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: in the eighth round or something like that of an 817 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 2: NFBC draft. I was picking him like seven to eighth round. 818 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: So that's how good he is. And when people get hurt, 819 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 2: they just get forgotten about. He had ridiculous stuff plus 820 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: rankings came minus walk through the roof at every single level. 821 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 2: I think one of the things with him coming up 822 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: has always been how durable can he be in the minors. 823 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: So if you're drafting him though in the forty to 824 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: fifty range, all those guys have risks, right, and would 825 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 2: you rather take someone who has high upside? I mean, 826 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: like I'm looking at him in the same range as 827 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: like Walker Bueller. You're looking at him with like Jesus Lozardo, 828 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: maybe Joe Ryan, Shane Bieber, guys like that. Boz has 829 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: higher upside than a guy like Shane Bieber. Right, I 830 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: head picked Shane Bieber or Shane bos Which Shane do 831 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 2: you want? I'm going Boz. I'm going with this stuff. 832 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: So when you get these risks and you get these 833 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 2: question marks on guys, I tend to always veer towards 834 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 2: the stuff over other metrics. 835 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: And I think these are killer names across the board. Again, 836 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: when we're looking at who we're buying, some dynasty buys 837 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: Catcher bo Naylor first Spencer Torkelsen, Nate Low second, Matt McClain, 838 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: Edward Julian third, and short about Junior Camenaro, Jordan Lawler, 839 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: a little bit of White Langford Largs Newbar on the 840 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: outfield and for your staff Joe Musgrove, Cole Bradish and 841 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: Shane Boz. Dynasty buys from Tim Kanak Fantasy ace Ball 842 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: on the Twitter, Tim tell us what you got going 843 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: on you Fantasy ace Ball. Make sure I really pronounce 844 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: enunciate that podcast. But anything else you want to plug? 845 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I write at Friends with Fantasy Benefits, and 846 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 2: during the season, I have a weekly article where I 847 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: give like my top ads, my top at my top 848 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: guys to watch for prospects for redraft leagues, my top 849 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: guys for a noun redraft league. So every week I 850 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 2: kind of update it, give some injury rankings and some 851 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: roster notes, like maybe one guy moved from eighth to 852 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 2: second in the lineup. So I give kind of like 853 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: hints and tips during the week. And then also if 854 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: you want to look for my prospect rankings, you can 855 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 2: find my prospect rankings over there. My last update was 856 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: on August fifteenth. I had a top one hundred and 857 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: fifty prospect rankings come out there, and I'm going to 858 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: be having an update in the offseason here before spring 859 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: training gets rolling around, so you can find that there, 860 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: and you'll be able to find my f scores also 861 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: on Friends with Fantasy Benefits and on the Fantasy ace 862 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 2: Ball podcast when they come out. Usually I start releasing 863 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: by position around mid January, late January or so, so 864 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: you'll be able to check out that scores when they 865 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 2: start coming out very shortly. 866 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: Tim, I appreciate you brother for dockin some Dynasty. 867 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: With me yep anytime. Thanks for having me Welsch. 868 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: And thank you to Tim for taking the time to 869 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: give us a bunch of really great names that you 870 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: guys are going to want to sit in on. And 871 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: make sure to keep perusing Dynasty Pros as the redraft 872 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: and the Dynasty ranks kind of take shape, so you 873 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: can see what some of those consensus stuff looks like. 874 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: And a whole bunch more going to be looking actually 875 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: to be doing a Dynasty mock draft here in the 876 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: future for this podcast, So stay tuned and stay locked 877 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 1: into the Fantasy Pros discord, because that is most likely 878 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: where we are going to be posting that. We'll do 879 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: that for an episode coming up next week. We're talking 880 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: about Dynasty cells. That's right, Baseball Jesse Roach is going 881 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: to be joining me. We're going to be talking about 882 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: players that you might want to get out from, whether 883 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: it's age or false production or just maybe maximizing the value. 884 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about those dynasty sales right here on the podcast. 885 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: So if you would like to find more of me, 886 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at is It the Welsh. 887 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: If you follow me on Twitter, that's going to tell 888 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: you pretty much everything that's going on in the world, 889 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: and you can keep track of all of it. That's 890 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: going to do it here for the podcast. But thank 891 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: you guys so much for hanging out and we will 892 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: talk to you next time right here on the Fantasy 893 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: Pros Dynasty Baseball Podcast. By friends. 894 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Baseball Podcast. 895 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: If you love the show, the best freeway to support 896 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: Us is by leaving a positive review on Apple Podcasts 897 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 3: or Spotify, follow us on x Instagram, and TikTok at 898 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 3: Fantasy Pros, and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube 899 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 3: dot com Slash Fantasy Pros MLB