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Speaker 1: Do you know someone who's hoked on video games? How

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Speaker 1: many days do you think it would take to play

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Speaker 1: and stay tuned to find out later in the episode.

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Speaker 2: Do you love playing video games?

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Speaker 1: If you've ever dreamed of making your own, you won't

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Speaker 1: want to miss this episode.

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Speaker 3: We are in luck.

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Speaker 1: Today we get to meet Irana Pereira, game designer and

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Speaker 1: educator for one of the greatest video games of all time,

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Speaker 1: World of Warcraft. What do you know about being a

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Speaker 1: video game designer? They create world, they connect players all

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Speaker 1: over the world. Let's find out more. Hi, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Growing Up with Emily, a lingo kids podcast that

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Speaker 1: helps kids discover how to be whatever they want to be.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to make video gaming your superpower?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Throwing up?

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Speaker 4: Rowing up?

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Speaker 1: The perfect day to play indoors. Today we're visiting an

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Speaker 1: old school video arcade.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite video game?

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Speaker 1: Pokemon ah, a role playing game known as RPG. If

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Speaker 1: you're a gamer, I have a joke. Why can't you

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Speaker 1: blindfold a Pokemon? Why it'll pik atch you? This arcade

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Speaker 1: has all the classics. It's like a museum. I bet

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Speaker 1: we can identify the game just by the sounds. Listen carefully,

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Speaker 1: any idea what that is? I'm not sure it's Pong

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Speaker 1: two battles hitting a ball back and forth.

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Speaker 3: What about this sound? Man?

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows that after forty years it's still played.

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Speaker 3: Here's one more.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like a shoot them up.

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Speaker 1: Game, Space Invaders. Fun fact, while making Space Invaders, there

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Speaker 2: These old games are simple but fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially for nudes. That's gamer jok.

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Speaker 1: For new player, two D side scrolling games like Donkey Kong,

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Speaker 1: Super Mario Bros. And Sonic the Hedgehog introduced jumping. Game

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Speaker 5: Jumping makes you harder to hit too, right, What are

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Speaker 1: It's the first person shooter game.

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Speaker 3: Not for kids.

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Speaker 1: The simulation looks so real it worries some people. Let's

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Speaker 2: Minecraft, my favorite. Let's build.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that the surface of the Minecraft world

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Speaker 2: WHOA? I could play all day?

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Speaker 1: Video games do build skills? They require masterful storytelling, plus

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Speaker 1: critical thinking, logic, strategy, and hand eye coordination. But not

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Speaker 1: all day kids need offline played too. Remember the question

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Speaker 1: from the start of the show. Here's the answer. It

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Speaker 1: the main story of every video game.

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Speaker 2: I want to make a video game? What does it take?

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Speaker 1: Most video game designers and developers start as serious gamers,

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Speaker 2: Easter eggs, Yeah, a hidden.

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Speaker 1: Message or object. The first was hidden an Atari's game

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Speaker 5: To make it more fun.

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Speaker 1: I have a surprise. See that door. It leads to

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Speaker 3: Well sort of.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to meet a real video game designer? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hi there, Irena. I'm with Lingo kids, and we want

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Speaker 1: First of all, what kind of games have you designed?

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Speaker 6: The kinds of games that I have designed are massively

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Speaker 6: That's the biggest one that I've ever gotten to work with,

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Speaker 1: What are three things you would say that all game

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Speaker 6: One, you need a sense of empathy, being able to

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Speaker 3: Two, drawing an art.

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Speaker 6: Playing with crayons, drawing or even taking pictures will help

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Speaker 3: And three really being good at numbers.

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Speaker 6: Math can take you really, really far, and you need

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Speaker 3: Order to make video games work interesting.

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Speaker 1: Our Lingo kids listeners have some questions of their own.

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Speaker 2: Arena.

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Speaker 5: Why did you become a game designer?

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Speaker 6: I became a game designer because I grew up playing

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Speaker 2: Is playing video games good or bad for kids?

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Speaker 6: I think video games are great for kids, And in fact,

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Speaker 6: I have three kids and we actually play video games

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Speaker 3: We can go to space together, we can.

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Speaker 6: virtual accounts, and we can build together in Minecraft. I

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Speaker 5: But Emily said video games help build skills, skills like.

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Speaker 6: What and how because video games require you to use

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Speaker 6: You get presented with challenges, with puzzles, and you have

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Speaker 3: I think video games actually helped make learning easier.

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Speaker 5: And did you go to school to learn how to

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Speaker 6: I didn't go to school to make video games because

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Speaker 6: So I went to school for everything that I possibly could.

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Speaker 6: When I went to college, I felt like I was

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Speaker 2: I Rea, what do you like best about being a

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Speaker 6: I can make the world, make a world a really

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Speaker 3: We get to be world creators in video games.

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Speaker 6: The best part of getting to be a game designer

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Speaker 6: If you want to be a game designer, play games,

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Speaker 3: Of those things that you try.

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Speaker 6: So, if anything, take that love of learning and just

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Speaker 5: Irena, what's your favorite.

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Speaker 6: My favorite game is actually a life simulator called Stardew Valley,

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Speaker 2: We had an episode in the show when we visited

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Speaker 6: I love the idea of someday now having a farm.

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Speaker 3: Not for the farmer.

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Speaker 2: Irena. What's the most difficult part of your job.

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Speaker 6: The most challenging part of being a game designer is

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Speaker 6: I spend most of my day sitting in this chair.

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Speaker 6: Digital Experiments, is what we call a consulting company, and

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Speaker 6: we help lots of other companies do make their video games.

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Speaker 2: And why they are not many women in video games.

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Speaker 6: So this is a tough one. Twenty four percent of

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Speaker 7: Game industry, and it's partly to do with history that

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Speaker 6: Playing the video games, and when you make video games,

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Speaker 6: So as that number grows, we're starting to see more

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Speaker 3: Trying to change that.

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Speaker 1: Go girls, Wow, Arena, there's so much talent there.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Arena.

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Speaker 1: What can kids do now while there's still growing up

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Speaker 1: to become a game designer?

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Speaker 3: Draw? Draw? Draw right, learn how to write and also math.

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Speaker 3: Math is great creation.

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Speaker 6: Find the thing that makes you excited and warm inside.

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Speaker 6: Because what I learned is that everything you learn in

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Speaker 3: So it's just a matter of developing your skills.

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Speaker 2: Can you teach me how to find an easter egg?

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Speaker 3: Easter eggs are great and that they are.

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Speaker 6: that little hidden secret, because that's where we game designers

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Speaker 6: like to hide things. But also Easter eggs are really

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Speaker 6: lot of the old movies and TV shows that your

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Speaker 6: eggs are hidden inside.

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Speaker 3: Jokes that are based on those old movies and TVs.

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Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this episode of the Growing Up podcast.

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Speaker 1: Even if you never planned to be a game designer,

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Speaker 1: you can enjoy using kid friendly tools to build worlds

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Speaker 1: of your own. If you could insert an Easter egg,

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Speaker 1: what would it be? Thanks for joining and we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time.

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Speaker 5: And to live a full interactive learning adventure, check out

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Speaker 5: our Lingo kids app with tons of games and activities

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Speaker 5: for endless fun.

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Speaker 8: It's so fun to learn what you can be growing up,

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Speaker 8: growing up, So come and join us. Come for everyone,

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Speaker 8: so we can learn while having lots of fun.

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Speaker 4: Because it's so fun to learn what you can be. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's so fun to learn what you can be grow

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