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Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and today we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: about ten under the radar players that we think fans

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Speaker 1: should be paying attention to come training camp, and that

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Speaker 1: will be players that we talk a lot.

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Speaker 2: More about come the season.

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Speaker 1: So Garrett, oh, and sorry almost left out one of

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Speaker 1: the more important parts of this podcast episode, and that

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Speaker 1: is that we were going to have a drafty the

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Speaker 1: beach Draft. Yes, yeah, looking forward to that one.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the appropriate time, right, This is beach time.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people in Maryland around the country are

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Speaker 3: headed off to the beach. So this draft will get

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Speaker 3: you ready for that trip. I tell you what you need,

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Speaker 3: what you need to bring, what you need to pack. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: exactly so, And as we do the ten under the

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Speaker 3: Radar players, I'll preface it by saying, oh, listeners, here

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Speaker 3: we go, Here we go. I already told Mink, like,

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Speaker 3: you can't be doing what you always do where you're

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Speaker 3: like Kyle Hamilton under the radar player this year, nobody's

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Speaker 3: talking about him, Rokwan Smith under the radar player this year.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that. That's always makes move is basically

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Speaker 3: to pick somebody like that, Like, you know, I know

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is out there, but I don't know if

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Speaker 3: we're really talking about Mark Andrews enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I went all practice squad guys from last

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Speaker 1: year in undrafted rookie a couple just to make sure

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Speaker 1: they're under the radar enough for you. I went underground.

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Speaker 3: So I so a couple of guys that he was

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Speaker 3: like trying to throw out to sneak on the list

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Speaker 3: off the jump. I was like, no, you can't put

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Likely on there.

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Speaker 2: We're talking.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to put him on there. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's what you preface about. I was trying to put

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Speaker 1: Trenton Simpson on there. I mean, the guy played in

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Speaker 1: like one game last year.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about Trenton Simpson no longer under

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Speaker 3: the radar, my gosh.

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Speaker 2: So he's not on there. So if you're wondering, like

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Speaker 2: we draw the line, that's that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a gray area. So we try to keep it

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Speaker 3: authentic to true under the radar players that we're not

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Speaker 3: talking to here about, but who could end up being

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Speaker 3: in all actuality, really important players for the Ravens this season.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yes, all right, so let's kick it off here.

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Speaker 1: Number one on the list, we have Jalen Armor Davis,

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Speaker 1: the third year cornerback who has not seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of action. Last year you played in eight games and

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Speaker 1: then went down with a concussion, playing four games games

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Speaker 1: as a rookie. But he's somebody that I think when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the Ravens fourth outside corner, he's definitely

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Speaker 1: a contender for that, probably the prime contender.

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Speaker 3: I thought Jalen Armor Davis had a really strong spring.

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Speaker 3: Like the challenge for him has been staying on the field,

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Speaker 3: And honestly, that was the challenge for him when he

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Speaker 3: knock on him and why he ended up being a

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Speaker 3: fourth round pick. This was a corner who started.

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Speaker 1: A whole lot you can do about a concussion, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's no training to avoid the concussions.

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Speaker 3: No there's not. But I'm just saying, like he's just

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Speaker 3: been snake bit by injuries. Yes, not even just in games.

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Speaker 3: On practice, Like he's not been able to practice consistently

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Speaker 3: his first two years and and then has not been

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Speaker 3: able to play consistently. But he was able to do

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Speaker 3: add this offseason, he was able to stay on there

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Speaker 3: far well, yes, yeah, and so like that was that

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Speaker 3: it went for him at Alabama too. He dealt with

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Speaker 3: And so like, could the same thing happen for him here?

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Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, I think the Ravens have

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Speaker 3: So I think that like he it's not that cornerback

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Speaker 3: Jalen could could end up being the fourth cornerback and

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Speaker 3: as we've seen, that be a position with a lot

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Speaker 1: There's one injury at cornerback, Jalen Armor Davis could see

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Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins, Marlin Humphrey, and Brandon Stevens this year if

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Speaker 1: one of them were to suffer an injury. Jillen Arba

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Speaker 1: Davis could see a lot of action. Now that could

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Speaker 1: you know, move more of these slot corners into give

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Speaker 1: them more playing time or more you roll more three safeties.

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Speaker 1: But you know, last year the Ravens had Rocky Scene

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Speaker 1: when Marlon went down. But neither of those guys has

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Speaker 1: the veteran that steps into that void. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I've really just I've always thought, you know, watching him

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Speaker 1: really good player. I mean, he's got the size you

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Speaker 1: talk about Nate Wiggins and just being a sticky cover corner.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what Jalen Armor Davis is. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Wiggins does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's his game.

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Speaker 3: I've liked him, I think, I mean, and honestly, we

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Speaker 3: can probably just easily roll into the second guy on

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Speaker 3: the list, who is is Pepe Williams. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: a similar conversation for both these guys have dealt with

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Speaker 3: injuries now different players. Like Jalen Armor Davis is a

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Speaker 3: true outside cornerback, where Pepe is a bit more of

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Speaker 3: a Swiss Army knife. He can be a nickel cornerback.

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Speaker 3: He also can play a little bit of safety and

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Speaker 3: so the Ravens could use him in a versatile package.

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Speaker 3: He's in that conversation to step in and help replace

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Speaker 3: Geno Stone into some of those three safety looks. It

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Speaker 3: with like Arthur Mulett for steps there true defensive back.

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Speaker 3: He's a defensive back. He is a true defensive back. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean Pepe is also among the team leaders. From

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Speaker 3: He's a content machine. If he is a character, he

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Speaker 2: So he think Pepe is like one of the top

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Speaker 2: players on the team. Exactly.

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Speaker 3: He carries feature of social media. He cares himsel Pee,

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Speaker 3: which is what I want my quarnerbacks.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. I love Pepe. He's comtent dude.

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Speaker 3: And so like, and he's just fought. He was another one.

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Speaker 3: Can you stay on the field, are you healthy? And

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Speaker 3: you put it together? And again, just like Jalen armor Davis,

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Speaker 3: he was healthy throughout the entire offseason and he was

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Speaker 1: So Pepe played fourteen games as a rookie. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's most of the season. And I thought he had

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Speaker 1: his moments. I thought there were some some good moments

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Speaker 1: as a rookie season. Unfortunately, last year he suffered an

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Speaker 1: a tough setback for him in year two. But I agree,

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Speaker 1: I mean a I think that he's not a lot

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Speaker 1: to make the fifty three. I think that Jalen Armor

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Speaker 1: Davis is probably better standing when it comes to making

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Speaker 1: more of these defensive back slot kind of guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: they have a little more depth there and true outside corners.

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Speaker 1: With the traits that Jalen Armor Davis has, I don't

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Speaker 3: Pepe can't play outside if needed, though.

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Speaker 1: He would be pretty far down on the depth chart

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Speaker 3: He I don't think that that's like the ideal scenario,

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Speaker 3: but I think that he could. I mean, I think,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know that I necessarily see

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Speaker 3: Jalen is way higher, is.

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Speaker 2: Not the same way higher. I think he's above him.

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Speaker 3: Though I don't know. I think that it's pretty neck

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I think that Pepe again, you know, if

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Speaker 1: Arthur Malette were to suffer an injury or something like that,

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Speaker 1: like Pepe could get some significant stat snaps and be

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Speaker 1: a real key under the radar player. He's also a

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Speaker 1: guy that I think just has kind of a nose

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I like Pepe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think also like he's not again

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Speaker 2: He will, he will compete. There's no doubt think.

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Speaker 3: He's going to shy away from from challenging situations. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's gonna be space for both

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Speaker 1: I think I think in our early projections I put

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Speaker 1: both of them on because the Ravens just don't like

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Speaker 1: parting with corners.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to have a lot of depth there.

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Speaker 3: In my way too early, I had one of them

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Speaker 3: all finals can't even off. Yeah, So I think that

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Speaker 3: like it's there's there's a I don't know that there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be space so both of them. Part of it

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Speaker 3: gets into the conversation that we've had recently, like at

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Speaker 3: the Ravens end up adding anybody to that mix.

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Speaker 1: Totally all right, Next on them, let's running back Justice Hill.

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Speaker 1: This is a player that we haven't talked a whole

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Speaker 1: lot about because of the addition of Derrick Henry, but

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Speaker 1: he's the number two running back clearly, Yeah, on this team,

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Speaker 1: at least until Keaton Mitchell gets back on the field.

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Speaker 2: And so you know he's he's going to have a role.

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Speaker 1: And especially when you look at Derrick Henry can be

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Speaker 2: You know he's done.

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Speaker 1: More of that, He's offered more of that in recent

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Speaker 1: years of the Titans. But let's be honest, justin Justice

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Speaker 1: Hill is more of a threat out of the backfield

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Speaker 1: catching the ball than Derrick Henry is. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: mean last year he caught twenty eight passes for two

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Speaker 1: hundred and six yards in a touchdown. So twenty passes,

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Speaker 1: you know, receptions ain't bad for a running back. And

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Speaker 1: you know he's going to be as much as Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry is going to be the workhorse and carry the load.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are going to look to manage his snaps,

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Speaker 3: But like they're not a team. When you look at

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Speaker 1: They've allah they've been by committee for a long time now,

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Speaker 1: Cold out, We're all gonna be writing that story in November.

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Speaker 1: You know, all right, it's Derek Henry time. Yeah, let's go. So,

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Speaker 1: I I mean, you think back to last year, Justice

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Speaker 2: Completely agree.

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Speaker 1: Safety Ardarius Washington. He is to me the clear leader

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Speaker 1: It wasn't surprising if he plays averages around forty percent

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Speaker 1: Broderick Washington. This is a player that the Ravens signed

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Speaker 1: last year, just more tackles period.

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Speaker 2: He was a more active player.

437
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Speaker 1: And I think this year, you know, as Michael Pierce

438
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,879
Speaker 1: gets a little bit older, and Michael Pierce had a

439
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 1: great year last last season, the Ravens ended up, you know,

440
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 1: kind of giving him a pseudo extension to continue here

441
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. But I think the baton is going to

442
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 1: be passed a little bit to Travis Jones, and I

443
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 1: think that he is a big, powerful and now faster

444
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 1: man who, like you said, he has flashed his dominance

445
00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,160
Speaker 1: at times. I mean sometimes he just looks dominant out there,

446
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: and we're going to see more of that this year.

447
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 3: Well, like last year, the Ravens linebackers got a lot

448
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 3: of acclaim roquwand Smith and Patrick Queen all pro players deserved,

449
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 3: but like part of the reason that they were able

450
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: to run free was really good play in front of

451
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 3: them by the defensive interior, Michael Pierce being one of

452
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 3: those guys. And I think that if the Ravens linebackers

453
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 3: are everyone's talking about how great they are, I think that,

454
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: like the guys up front gobbling up those blockers is

455
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 3: going to be a big piece of the equation. And

456
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 3: Travis Jones is part of that. Progerick Washington is part

457
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 3: of that. So like, like I just think that like

458
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 3: when those guys, when when you're seeing Trenton Simpson and

459
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 3: roquwand Smith fly all over the field untouched, Okay, look

460
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: at the players in front of them, and like that's

461
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 3: going to be an indication of what they are doing,

462
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 3: if they are doing their job effectively.

463
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Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, and.

464
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this is kind of this is

465
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Speaker 3: Travis Jones third season. This is a guy who came

466
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Speaker 3: out of Yukon. Their team was not good when he

467
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 3: was in college. You know, there was not a good

468
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 3: it was not a good program. And and then he

469
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 3: ends up coming here and it was kind of a

470
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 3: big lead for him. And I think that, like he

471
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: has the physical tools. I think he's really developed. I

472
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: think he's become a more refined player. I think he's

473
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 3: done all like the stereotypical things that you talk about

474
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 3: young players getting to the NFL and doing and the

475
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: weight room.

476
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Speaker 1: Well, gosh, you talk about one of the guys who's

477
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: just we see every day here around still Performance Center.

478
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Speaker 2: Still Yeah, every day.

479
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean he Trent and Simpsons in that group, you know,

480
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean here all the time. Yeah. Part of that's

481
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: that that, like I said, slimming down, eating right, all

482
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: that stuff.

483
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: Yep, taking it very seriously. And I think he, you know, one.

484
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Speaker 3: Of those guys that benefits from it from a Chuck

485
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: Smith like learning that pastors work. Like I think that

486
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Speaker 3: when you saw the production that Justin Adebikee had last

487
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 3: year in the and the and the you know, the

488
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Speaker 3: coming out party that he had with that production. I

489
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: think that. I'm sure Travis Jones is looking at that

490
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: and saying like, hey, you know, I can I can

491
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Speaker 3: get in that mix. You know, that sounds pretty to me.

492
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to be a thirteen

493
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: sack guy, but if he gets to six, like he said,

494
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Speaker 1: his kind of goal is that's a really good year.

495
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: Minimum bare minimum exactly.

496
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Speaker 3: I like that.

497
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Speaker 1: Just the last point on defensive line, like certainly safety,

498
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Speaker 1: tight end, and.

499
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Speaker 2: Of course quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are the Raven's strongest position groups in

501
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: my opinion, defensive line. I think you're going to get

502
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Speaker 1: to the end of the year and say, man like,

503
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like that Ravens defensive line is

504
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league.

505
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Speaker 2: I really think that.

506
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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, justin mattebekeeah right, and let's just say

507
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: he takes it to another level. He was already led

508
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: all defensive tackles and sacks last year, right, so if

509
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Speaker 1: he takes it to another level, oh my goodness. And

510
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: then we're sitting here talking about Michael Pierce. If he's healthy,

511
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: he's one of the best nots tackles in the game.

512
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: You're talking about Travis jumps from Travis Jones Justin Mattabek, Right,

513
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: you have a solid veteran who established guy in Brent Urban. Like,

514
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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens defensive line could be nasty.

515
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that one of the things that

516
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: I think is so great about his defense is you

517
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 3: you go through all three levels of it, Like I

518
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: think that there's a with Mattabek, Roquwan Smith then in

519
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: the second level and Kyle Hamilton and Marcus Williams and

520
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: the third Like it's just it's it's just great at

521
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: all three levels. And I agree with you, Like when

522
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 3: you're talking about those different levels, defensive line kind of

523
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: gets overlooked in that and it probably shouldn't, especially when

524
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Speaker 3: you have Mattabek leading the way under the radar player

525
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Speaker 3: Justin Matdebek.

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Speaker 2: Ye, all right, you can't. Yeah, you missed, you missed it,

527
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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to the secondary. Okay, that's

531
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Speaker 2: where we've been hanging out a lot.

532
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Speaker 1: Here, we're gonna go with Arthur Mulett, the veteran cornerback

533
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: who the Ravens signed last year, former Steeler.

534
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: Disgruntled Steeler comes to Baltimore.

535
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: I love it and and now you know, really had

536
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: a very strong year last year. A good blitzer, scrappy player,

537
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: really kind of instinctual.

538
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 2: Guy, you know.

539
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a guy who you want chasing

540
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: cornerbacks for a long time downfield. Generally speaking that time,

541
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Speaker 1: Arthur Mallett.

542
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: Said, you don't want to chase tight ends downfield, no.

543
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Wide receiver, you just don't.

544
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Speaker 1: He's not He's not known for like his long coverage skills.

545
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: He's he's a little bit better closer to the line

546
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: of scrimmage is really his strength.

547
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Speaker 3: I mean when he's sat down with us on the podcast,

548
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: he talked about like, oh, I'm a nickelback. I am

549
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: a nickelback, Like that's I play the spot, Like that's

550
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Speaker 3: where I want to.

551
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 2: Be, scrappy tackles, blitzing sacks.

552
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Speaker 3: He's in the mix like you. And it's kind of

553
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: funny because like I think some DB's like view Nichol

554
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 3: as a slight because like you know, the outside corners,

555
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: like the sexy position, and he's like, no, I'm a nickelback,

556
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 3: Like I want to be in the mess there, like

557
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 3: you know, next to the linebacker and not everybody that

558
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: that life is not for everybody. He he is all

559
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Speaker 3: about it.

560
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: Yep, totally.

561
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, really, you look at it, Kyle Hamilton

562
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: is still going to play in the slot. Some He's

563
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: going to be in the Nickel corner, you know, some

564
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: to just utilize his versatility. But if it's not him,

565
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: it's Arthur Mallett, it's the prime Mary Nickel quarter.

566
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Speaker 3: I've shared this on the podcast before, but I talked

567
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: with him at Mini camp and he told me about

568
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: how he just thinks that this is going to be

569
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: a big year for him. Last year, he was coming

570
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 3: to a new team, he was getting his feet wet,

571
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: learning a new system, finding his place from a you know,

572
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 3: in the locker room and on the defense and all

573
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: that stuff, fighting to make the team, you know. And

574
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 3: now he gets the extension. He proved himself last year

575
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: and now he feels like he can just take it

576
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: to another level. So he's super confident.

577
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: He had a very good Mini camp.

578
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

579
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: I thought one of the best players on the field

580
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: at Mini Camp.

581
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's I think he's a really good player.

582
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: I like him. I liked him last year.

583
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,239
Speaker 2: And there's the reason why the Ravens resigned him.

584
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm buying what he's selling when he says

585
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: that he feels like this is going to be a

586
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: big season for him and he feels like this defense

587
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 3: is really good. You know, there's all the talk about

588
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: pieces they've lost, and you know, he doesn't feel like

589
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: that's the case. He feels like this defense is going

590
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: to be right back where it was a year ago.

591
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Yep. Sticking on defense. Gosh, I'm looking at have any

592
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: offensive players out here? Three offensive players of the ten? Okay, alright,

593
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: same with defense, Tavis Robinson second, and you're outside linebacker.

594
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought we both said it. Like to me,

595
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: he's he's the classic guy from year one to year two.

596
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: You see the development, you see the body transformation. You

597
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: see him just like looking more and more like an

598
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: NFL player.

599
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: And he's added he's added about ten pounds of muscle.

600
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: And he was already a big strong man. Yes, he's

601
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: a big looks really good.

602
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 3: I just thought like he was active, he was in

603
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 3: the backfield, he was batting down passes in these mini

604
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: camp and OTA practices. I think that he's ready for

605
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: more of, you know, a more significant role.

606
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that his role is going to change

607
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: a whole lot. You know, I talked to him and

608
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: he said he was really the edge setting kind of

609
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: physical guy earlier downs, rushing, running downs, right, and he's

610
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: focused on moves, you know, working a lot with Chuck Smith.

611
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: When I talked to him, I you know, got in

612
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: at the very tail end of a long conversation as

613
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: he walked off the field with Chuck Smith, right, and

614
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: so working on those moves, even adding a little bit

615
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: of a spin. You know, he said he's taking stuff

616
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: from Odafe's game and all that, like that is part

617
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: of his focus. But also when he says I got

618
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: bigger and stronger, you're like, all right, you're gonna be

619
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: better at what you did last year, which was power

620
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: and then more power, right, And he wants to diversify

621
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: his game. But his role I think is not gonna

622
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: be a third down pass rusher. That's gonna be the

623
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: David Ajabas of the world.

624
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: You know, Kyle van Ney.

625
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Obviously Odafe he played those early down to you can certainly.

626
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Even though Malie Cam you know.

627
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: If you're talking about let's just go get a dec Isaac, right,

628
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: like that's more of the role than a big dude

629
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: like Tavius Robinson.

630
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't. I don't. I'm not looking at

631
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: double digit ACKs for him. I just think that, like

632
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: that edge setting role has always been something that's been

633
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: an important piece of the Ravens Ravens defense and it's

634
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: not always a guy that like gets a ton of

635
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: acclaim and they've had, you know, players that fly under

636
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: the radar, and like Malik Harrison has done this, you know,

637
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: he's played.

638
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you're gonna buy back like a Jared Johnson.

639
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: Yes, of course if you want to go way back,

640
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: but like those guys don't necessarily get a ton of.

641
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: Jared Johnson should just put on ten under the Radar

642
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: players list right now.

643
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he lived on that list.

644
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on the Mount rushmore of under the radar exactly.

645
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that I think that Tavius Robinson

646
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: is going to be an important player. You know, like

647
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: didn't see a ton of snaps as a rookie.

648
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: I think that I thought he saw a lot. I

649
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: was going to say the opposite, really the defensive snaps. Okay, yes,

650
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: for a fourth round rookie fair Yeah, pretty darn good. Yeah,

651
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: you don't usually see guys get that much.

652
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: I would think he's going to increase this year though.

653
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: I think he'll increase that. I agree.

654
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be dramatic, but you know,

655
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: Clowney has n't been replaced. There's snaps to be made

656
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: up there, so I think that it will increase. But

657
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: he got a lot of it, Like he has a

658
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: good platform to work off of his Year one experience

659
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: I think is really in his favor.

660
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that he'll be He'll be a guy

661
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: on this defense that like is making plays. I think

662
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: early in the season they're like, whoa, Okay, who's that?

663
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: You know, what's Tavi's Robinson's story. I think that he's

664
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: got to catch some peop's attention.

665
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: Hockey goalie.

666
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Yes, just let you know, all right. Next on the list,

667
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: tight end Charlie Kohler.

668
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: FEEDO, he's gonna give you the fee.

669
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: Charlie. Charlie Kohler had a great spring, like he really did.

670
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: Like he was in the in what Mink is referencing.

671
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: I was joking in one of these practices because I

672
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: was like I was talking about how I really like

673
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: Charlie Coler. I think he's a really good player. And

674
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 3: then he there was like two straight passes to him.

675
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: I was like, just feed him, just feed him, feed

676
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: the beasts, and uh, there's We've all been talking about

677
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: getting Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely on the field a lot.

678
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: And look, I love that. I think it's going to

679
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: be a really important piece of the offense this year.

680
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: Charlie Kuhler is not going to catch forty passes, but

681
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: I think that he is a really good blocker. He's

682
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: developed in that area. He's added weight, he's added muscle,

683
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: and he's gonna make some tough third periods. He's added

684
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: brads and but by the end of mini camp though,

685
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: they were out. So he added braids and he lost.

686
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

687
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I all that once before and then the

688
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: braids came back.

689
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So maybe I don't know if.

690
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: It's done done.

691
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: See, yeah, we'll have to wait and give you the

692
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: other That's an essential part of his game.

693
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: That really is what is what kind of powered him

694
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: during that offseason practices. But no, I think like Kohler

695
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: is going to be a guy that that I think

696
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: has the ball come his way some key situations that

697
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: you're not expecting it, like Mark Andrew just attracts a

698
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: ton of attention the receivers are and then Cohler, I

699
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: think is a pretty sure handed guy that can make

700
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: a tough catch over the middle and move the chains well.

701
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: More than that, I think it's it's not his receiving

702
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: what he's going to bring to the table as a receiver,

703
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: but as a blocker, and I think that is that

704
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: is a really important position for the Ravens. You think

705
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: about you know, Gosh, Eric Tomlinson, you know a few

706
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: years ago turned out to be a really good blocker.

707
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Uh and then Josh Oliver developed to be into a

708
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: very good blocker. Last year, the Ravens were kind of

709
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: lacking that from a tight true tight end Boyle goodness gracious, yeah,

710
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: of course, Nick Boyle for a long time and then

711
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: they didn't really have that from the tight end, true

712
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: tight end position.

713
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: Pat Riccarr did a lot of that.

714
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: He was almost like a extra offensive tackle slash fullback

715
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: slash tight end and he will serve in that role again,

716
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: but that they also want a tight end to emerge

717
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: in that block and role. And that's what Charlie why

718
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Charlie Kohler has balked up this offseason, and it's really important.

719
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean when you talk about some of those.

720
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Toss sweeps, you know, some of those outside kind of

721
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: off tackle runs that Derrick Henry is known for, getting

722
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: him out there, getting him rolling on a track and

723
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: he just mows somebody down in the hole and then

724
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: takes off for sixty yards. That tight end blocking on

725
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: that play is critical. The front end of the spear

726
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: of that play. That's a big block that you need

727
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: to get to spring him. And Charlie Cohler is going

728
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: to be in that position I think a lot this year,

729
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: all right, especially if you're talking about Mark Andrews plays

730
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: out in the slot a lot. Isaiah likely we're sitting here,

731
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, talk about using him as a chess piece

732
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: all over the field as a receiver, you know, kind

733
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: of making up for the loss of Odell. Charlie Cohler

734
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: is an important part of me in that inline tight

735
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: end that the Ravens need totally agree. Tenth guy and

736
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: this is the deep cut here, deep cut because we

737
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: haven't even laid eyes on this guy. This is wide

738
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: receiver Deontay Hardy.

739
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and returner yeah.

740
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: And return.

741
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Ravens signed him this offseason. He

742
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: was not here at all during the offseason practices and

743
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh's including mini camp and John Harbaugh shared a

744
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: mini camp that and he was dealing with kind of

745
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: personal tragedy and challenge after the birth, you know, of

746
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: a child, and dealing with some medical challenges there. So

747
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: certainly hope that everything is okay on that front for

748
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: Deontay and his family. But we haven't seen him yet,

749
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: and you know, and so when he gets on the

750
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: field in training camp, I think there's gonna be a

751
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: lot of interest in him. This is a guy that's

752
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: an explosive returner and has been in his career. But

753
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: if he can add some some juice to that department,

754
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be probably competing there.

755
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: You know.

756
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: Tyler Wallace, of course, we all remember the return he

757
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: had last year and he took over the return duties

758
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: after Devin Duverney got hurt last year. So Tylan Wallace

759
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: is not going to give up that job easily. But

760
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: Deontay Hardy is a talented player. I think that he

761
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: can also bring something to the receiver room as well.

762
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 3: And in terms of like the departure of Devon DuVernay

763
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: and doing some of that stuff that Devin DuVernay did,

764
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: jet sweeps and some of that gadget stuff.

765
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy in twenty twenty one

766
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: with the Saints he put up five hundred and seventy

767
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: receiving yards at three touchdowns. Yeah, caught thirty six balls.

768
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, right. I mean, he's he's got some

769
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: juice as a player. Tom Munkin always talks about I

770
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: want to get my players the ball in space and

771
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: let them work. And he is somebody that if you

772
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: can make that happen, he can be a real threat.

773
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: He can get away from you fast.

774
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: Ye.

775
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: And to your point about returner, that position is even

776
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: more important now with the kickoff rule changes. If he

777
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: ends up winning that job, you're going to get a

778
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: lot of returns this year, and it's going to be

779
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: a real interesting play.

780
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

781
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: And I just think I know it's been talked about

782
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: a fair enough amount, but I don't know that it's

783
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: been even talked about enough how big special teams is

784
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: going to be this year, and how important it is

785
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: for the Ravens to really have an advantage there and

786
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy is a player that they're really thrilled to

787
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: bring in as a free agent because he could be

788
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: a difference maker.

789
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: Yep, all right, so those are our ten. Those are

790
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: our ten guys who are under the radar.

791
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: So we're the last one, Lamar Jackson.

792
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: There you go. There it is. We were waiting for

793
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: that one. We're going to take a quick break. When

794
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: we come back, we are going to do the beach drafts.

795
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: We're gonna get you ready for summer vacation. So stay

796
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,320
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808
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: All right, so we as we get ready for the

809
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: beach vacation time. This is the origin of this draft.

810
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: So these are twelve items that you can bring with you,

811
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: particular the beach.

812
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 2: You're packing for the beach. What are you grabbing?

813
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Okay, we have twelve items that you can put in

814
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: your beach bag. Okay, and let's just make sure we

815
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: have the ground rules.

816
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: Right.

817
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: Is this like a day at Ocean City or are

818
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: we talking like Caribbean? What are we talking about? Oh?

819
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: I think oc.

820
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: Sure we'll keep it local.

821
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: Keep it look right, this is like you're going to

822
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Ocean City.

823
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I don't know if it makes a difference,

824
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: but sure, we'll keep it local.

825
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: That's because you haven't done your homework. You don't even

826
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: have your board in front of you. I have my

827
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: I got the board right here, I'm looking at it.

828
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: All right.

829
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: You want to run through the items.

830
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, you do it.

831
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: You want to be You think I'm going to reveal

832
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: my board. This is the great thing about this. This

833
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: is not my board, but here are the twelve items

834
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 3: that on the list beach towel, beach chair, sunscreen, a shovel,

835
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: and a bucket.

836
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: You know, a little boy shovel. I know what a shovel?

837
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: A bucket?

838
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, just making sure you understand cooler, a beer, you

839
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: understand where that is? Snacks of football goggles, a boogiey board,

840
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 3: an umbrella. Water not like the beach water. Water is drink.

841
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: We're talking salt water, salt water, correct water. And last,

842
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: but not least, sunglasses.

843
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, this is a great list.

844
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: This is what was the last draft that we had

845
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: that I just trounced you in like it was a

846
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: runaway complete.

847
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: I think.

848
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Travel drift.

849
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah that's oh yeah, that's right.

850
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

851
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: Last, that's the last shoft just hobbers you.

852
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's man, it's still so good.

853
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: And Christmas, you're missing Christmas?

854
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: All right? Moving on, beach draft ready, rock paper scissors?

855
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: One said one, look in your eyes.

856
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: I got to look in your eyes.

857
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: I went back in my study the last ten rock

858
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: paper scissors, rock paper scissor.

859
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: Shoot, I'm on a cold stream rock beat scissors.

860
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: I knew it.

861
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: I am on a knew it all right.

862
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Number one pick I'm taking sunscreen.

863
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: Sunscreen, number one. I don't want skin cancer protection. Above all,

864
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: you get burned on the beach. You're in rough shape,

865
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 4: my friend. Okay, you gotta have the long term view here.

866
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: Sunscreen number one, I don't want to get burned. You're going,

867
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 4: that's what I'm taking. You're going with My mom would

868
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 4: be happy something.

869
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean, looking safe, safe, pick safe picks. I'm going

870
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: for the great time. Bring the cooler of beer, your

871
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: your your party is gonna be you just louthered up

872
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: and sunscreen over there. Mine's gonna be where I wear

873
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: all the.

874
00:37:51,760 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 1: Accides sun of bad pigs. I respect, I respect the pick. Okay,

875
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: number two, I'm going Umbrella.

876
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: You are fried, my friend, you are fried. You just

877
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: you done. You might not make it to the next day.

878
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: Man.

879
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: I was, I debated, demated, I was.

880
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: I was like, there's no way he's gonna go back

881
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: to back something.

882
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing it.

883
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: And so I was like, I can just get Umbrella

884
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: by second pace. That's really just revenge. That's just like

885
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: I'm freezing you out and.

886
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Throws it out. I mean, you're dead, especially with your

887
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: pasty skin. You're done.

888
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: Yea.

889
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: Look you you basically just you don't like the beach.

890
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: You just want to be inside. That's what it sounds like.

891
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: I am happy man.

892
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: Oh all right, well you look at this point, I

893
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: just gotta go all fun. Okay, Uh, the cooler of beer,

894
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: and now I'm gonna add the beach just to be

895
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 3: sitting in my beach share. It's cooking.

896
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: Cooking into the beach with my beach share a big

897
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: mistake because you could have shot it. You could have

898
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: done the same thing I did to you.

899
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm going water the Bear Essentials Port Survival.

900
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: I'll go water.

901
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: See if you took beer and water, you would have

902
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: been well hydrated.

903
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 5: At least I would have been. I would have been dead.

904
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 5: I have no ship and all beer. You're so done cooking,

905
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: no shade, no water.

906
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm sitting pretty right now. I'm gonna be eating.

907
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: The ice chunks out of my cooler to try to

908
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: cool off and get myself some hydration. All right, all

909
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: right here this is an important one, and this is

910
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: multi use. This is multi use. I'm going with the

911
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: beach towel the beach Oh, that's a terrible bit. I

912
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 3: am going to use the beach shot again. You're cooking,

913
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: you lying out of it? What do you do coverage.

914
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: You gotta hide under that.

915
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: I am. I'm gonna be hiding on I'm gonna be

916
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 3: sitting in my chair with the beach towel wrapped around

917
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: my shoulders, with the cooler of beer next to me.

918
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: Now you're in full survival modes.

919
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: Well, I just I mean, I already I already took

920
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: care of the fun. Now I just need to make

921
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: sure that I get some bear essentials.

922
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean I had towel eleventh eleventh.

923
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: That's towels like the most overrated thing. No, it's not.

924
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: It's it's a really important item. Why because you need

925
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: to dry off? Because you're getting dry off, you're at

926
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: the beach, air dry.

927
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: Why don't use a towel? I don't use a towel.

928
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Like my wife's always like, did you pack a towel

929
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: for us?

930
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I didn't, because we're going I don't

931
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: care if we're going to the beach or the pool.

932
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: You air dry. It's summer.

933
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: That's you're crazy. Doesn't mean that anybody else feels that way.

934
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: A towel is an important item.

935
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Es. Actually, I think it's overrated. I agree that it

936
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: would be higher on most people less for mine. It's

937
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: way down there.

938
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 3: Well so also it's it's the dual purpose towel. Okay,

939
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 3: it's for you.

940
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: It's protection.

941
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: I needed it, so I got it.

942
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: All right. I'm gonna go, oh god, I'm gonna make

943
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: this even worse for you. I'm gonna go sunglasses.

944
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: You are just squinting.

945
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm making your life a living hell.

946
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: On the beach. You hell on earth.

947
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: You are literally in hell. You're just cooking.

948
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: I like it's gonna be. I'm gonna be.

949
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: It's it's all good. I'm here for.

950
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: Listen, here for a good time. It canna make you pick.

951
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: What's left. You got nothing, all right, you got nothing.

952
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: The items that are left football.

953
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: See, you're off your board. You don't even have board.

954
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: You're in this row, all right.

955
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: I just had to reassess here. You know what I'm

956
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 3: going with. I'm going with snacks. I am going with that.

957
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: Was where only that was your first decent pic.

958
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm going with snacks. You need to have something to

959
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: bounce out the heat in the snacks are going to

960
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 3: give me a good base.

961
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: You're crying by the.

962
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: Way you're.

963
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: Look.

964
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: I considered snacks there, but I wanted to make your eyes.

965
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: Right now, just thinking about staring into the sun all day.

966
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, even if you don't pack the snacks,

967
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: you have a pretty decent chance of snacks coming to you. People. People, Yeah, no, no,

968
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: this is what we're packing at the day. We didn't

969
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: specify that. There's no you know, ice cart coming down

970
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: the beach.

971
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: Well I may, I may just stop by the car.

972
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, this is you're on the beach.

973
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: You can't you can't go off the beach. Snacks sometimes

974
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: come to you while you're on the beach.

975
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: See that's now you're you know, you're you know, it's

976
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: you're scrambling when you start throwing out that logic there,

977
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: because like I could just find the I'm just gonna

978
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: ask somebody on the beach if I can borrow their

979
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: umbrella and sunglasses that logic.

980
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm taking I I need a

981
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: little entertainment. I'm taking the football. Take the football, all right.

982
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: This is a football team. We work for a football team.

983
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm taking the football. It's multi dimensional. You can start

984
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: up a game with some friends. Not you, I mean,

985
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: you can't even move, but I could right start a

986
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: game with some friends. You can toss it out in

987
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: the water, makes trying to make some diving catches in

988
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: the water.

989
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: You can do a lot of different things with the

990
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: football on the beach.

991
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: You know the fine that that's fine. I'm gonna go

992
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: with an item that's great for everybody, especially the kids.

993
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: That's that's the shovel in the bucket. That's the shovel

994
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: in the bucket. The kids are gonna have a great time. Well,

995
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: I am packing for the family. I am packing for

996
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: the family.

997
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're bringing kids on this, we should sptisfy this. Yeah,

998
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: sure your kids. You're cooking your kids.

999
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 3: Well, they're gonna be under the towers for dad.

1000
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: I have no water.

1001
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

1002
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: Well, look whether they're I don't know if the whole

1003
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: family's coming or not, but at least not.

1004
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: Even if they do, they've got the shovel in the bucket.

1005
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: I brought it.

1006
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: Okay, the shovel in the bucket. All right, I'm taking

1007
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: the boogey board. Bookeyboard is great. I mean, see, this

1008
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: is so I got my essentials early on. Like I'm

1009
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm comfortable at the beach. Now I'm adding on

1010
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: the fun I got a football. I got a boogie board.

1011
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: I can boogy it up. I can even try to

1012
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: surf it a little bit. If I'm getting a little crazy,

1013
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: I could do the little wave runners you know in

1014
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: the you know, like a skin board. I can try

1015
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: to do that. I gotta I got a boogiey board.

1016
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: Well, look, and now my my last pick here, I

1017
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: don't have sunglasses, but I got the tinted goggles.

1018
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: Just sitting there, sitting I'm just I'm.

1019
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 3: Wearing the goggles.

1020
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 2: No sunscreen.

1021
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: You're just going You're gonna come away with one of

1022
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: those tans, like everything except for their eyes right around

1023
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: their eyes.

1024
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got the goggles.

1025
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: They're dual purpose, so I can wear them out of

1026
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: out of the water or in the water. In the water.

1027
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: This is a runaway. This might be worse than travel draft.

1028
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, you got you You're gonna be so hungover

1029
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: to that's the thing. All you have is beer and

1030
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: no shade. You're gonna be feeling in the awful look awful.

1031
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: I've my my camp is.

1032
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: All about about the party.

1033
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Beer. It's like it'd be one thing if you got

1034
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: the beer and the football, but you didn't even get.

1035
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: That well, I got snacks.

1036
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: You know I was gonna come back with snacks. I

1037
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: got what are you eating? What are you eating?

1038
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: I had a good breakfast. I have a solid luge snacks.

1039
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: One am, I five.

1040
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: Beach all day with nothing to eat. You just said

1041
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: they had a good breakfast. You just said bacon, eggs, pancakes.

1042
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: What you say could not be more boring. You just

1043
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: sit under your umbrella, loud than sunscreen, pounding water all

1044
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: day like that.

1045
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: Boarding playing football.

1046
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's not a like comfortable and I have

1047
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: the fun like a football.

1048
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: It's a survival. It's not fun enough for you, Garrett

1049
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: Shy that you only play football. Something wrong with the football? No,

1050
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: nothing wrong. Nothing's wrong with a Yeah, just the greatest

1051
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: sport in the world. You are going to be sitting

1052
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: under your tent in the entire day. I'm playing football

1053
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: and I have sunscreen, so I that's the thing too,

1054
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: Like if you I really thought you were gonna play

1055
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: this better, Like once I took sunscreen, I thought you

1056
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: had to take umbrella. You had to, right, And if

1057
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: you take umbrella, then okay, you're shaded, but you can't

1058
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: move from the shade or you're getting burned, like you

1059
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: can't go out and play a game of football.

1060
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: You no, Look, it's this is like a college decision

1061
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: that you did. I thought you were more mature than this.

1062
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: I just I thought there was no way you were

1063
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: going with umbrella.

1064
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I burn you out. It's the opposite.

1065
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I've got the right let's review, let's review what we

1066
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: got here. Go ahead, give your terrible draft.

1067
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: So I go, this is it's funny, but I end

1068
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: up with a more exciting setup. I end up with

1069
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: the cooler of beer. The beach chair comfortable, way comfortable.

1070
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: You don't have anything to sit on. You're just laying

1071
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: on the ground and.

1072
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: You have and you have no towel, sitting on the sand.

1073
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: That is terrible. Why that's uncomfortable. I've got the chair

1074
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: and the towel, So anyway.

1075
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: I'll sit on my boogey board. That's that's actually real comfortable,

1076
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: real nice.

1077
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: I can do that.

1078
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: No, that's terrible. I got the cooler beer, at the

1079
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: beach chair, at the beach towel. You have water?

1080
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you have.

1081
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: No snacks, snacks, the shovel and a bucket and goggles.

1082
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I have sunscreen, umbrella, water, I have the essentials, sunglasses,

1083
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: not glaring, just squinting.

1084
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: All day long.

1085
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm healthy. I'm like you are dead man, I'm healthy.

1086
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: I have a football and a boogie board, so I

1087
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: have the essentials to keep me alive throughout this day

1088
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: and comfortable.

1089
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: And then I have the fun.

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Speaker 1: Get all right, Bryson who won the draft? No hesitation,

1091
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Speaker 1: And this comes from a man in his twenties. Okay,

1092
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: if anybody who is going to vote for your terrible draft,

1093
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: it would be Bryson.

1094
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Speaker 3: Well, look, the listeners can make the final decision here.

1095
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: I feel good about the listeners being on my side.

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Speaker 3: You can email us to the lounge at ravenst NFL

1097
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: dot net. Let us know who you want, who you

1098
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: think won the draft. I feel like this is going

1099
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: to be another runaway for me, yeah, or another runaway

1100
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: from me.

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00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: By the way, that's why I specified the Caribbean versus

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00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: Ocean City.

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00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: Think ahead.

1104
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: Goggles makes a big difference for the goggles. Who wants

1105
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: who needs goggles? The anything underwater. But if you're going

1106
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: to Caribbean, having goggles is a big difference. You're going

1107
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: a little snorkl again.

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00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: Tinted tinted goggleslasses again. Send us that email let us

1109
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: know who you think won the draft. We appreciate you

1110
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Speaker 3: guys listening. Thank you so much and we will talk

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Speaker 3: with you again soon