1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen that Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us again and we're so 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: excited to be back hun Kathy. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Yes, another day, another podcast, and if you haven't done 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: it yet, now is the time to follow our podcast 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: said that you never miss an episode. Just search for 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: Bachelor Happy Hour in the podcast app and hit the 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: follow button. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: YEP. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Super important that you follow the podcast because you're going 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: to get notified every time there's a new episode. Also, 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: while you're there, leave us a review or write in 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: a question. 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Also, make sure to check out all of our past episodes. 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: We have been having so much fun answering your questions, 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: audition out advice, so keep them coming at bachelornation dot 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: com slash Golden Hour. 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: So today we have a very special guest joining us. 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: But before we bring him in, Kathy, we have to 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: talk about the new Bachelorette. 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Holy smokes, Taylor, Frankie Paul. Let's talk. 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I wish I was warmon now, 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean really they're getting everything. 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Well, there is that. Yeah, she's going to be on 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: like two Mormon shows and this show all at once. 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: That's but okay, wait I have to say, I know 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: there are people that are going to be like what, 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: because you know, Bachelor has traditionally plucked men and women 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: from ob security. 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and I like. 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Us and put them on. But you know what, I think, 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: because of the nature of reality TV now and the 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: number of dating shows, Bachelor is smart. They decided to 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: completely go a different direction, pulling this this young woman 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: who has kids, who's been divorced, who's at thirty one, 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: has already lived a really rich, varied life, and she's 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: going to bring with her her million plus followers. People 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: are going to be invested in her and tuned in. 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: That's what I And she's on her other reality show. 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: People do watch that, so they'll come. 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: Over, right, That's what I'm saying, just. 42 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: As well Bachelor will go over. 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think it's a bold move y franchise, 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: but I think it's a great move I think I 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: think change is good. I think sometimes people fight change, 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: and you know, they people say we want change, we 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: want change, and then you give them change, They're like, 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: we want to go back to you know, but I 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: am I obviously don't know her. 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: She's obviously adorable. Oh yeah, young, beautiful and the men 51 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: coming on. When you have young children, it's a whole 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: different ballgame when you're dating somebody with a child. Maybe 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: they've reached out to men that age that might have 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: children as well. 55 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, right, but that's what I'm saying. There's 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: going to be so many facets of this show. I 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: think that are going to be something Bachelor has never done, 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: and I think people are going to tune in in 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: a big way to see how. I can't wait personally 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: hope that. I mean, I couldn't have mel so maybe 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: maybe I could get invested in Taylor and see how 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: her life goes. 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I just hope we get to meet her live 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: and in person. 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, well we'll see what happens. 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, now it's time to get into today's episode. 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: So let's bring in our guests. Everyone, please, Welcome from 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and gen season of The Bachelorette. Hackem, 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Hi hackm, my little tweetheart, Welcome back to Golden Hour. 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: Hi. 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: What so excited to see you? 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, of the love fest begins. 73 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I warned I wasn't on Paradise, but 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: you would not have gone home so soon. There would 75 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: have been. 76 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: Rumors it would have been the rumors would have been 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: affected me, you and Susan. I'm gonna tell you that 78 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: right now. 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: We have chemistry like no other. 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: I just want to point out that Susan is in 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: a monogamous relationship. I was in Paradise dying to meet you, 82 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: and when you heard I was coming, you went home. 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: That's what happened. 84 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: I heard it. Damn you thought it was my choice. 85 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: How was your experience, I want to hear tell. 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Us about it. 87 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: My experience was short, but it was phenomenal. 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: Honestly, I got at it a long time, right to 89 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: get you were one of the first ones. 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was one of the first of 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: you know, And so I got my mind right, got 92 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: my body right. You know. I was trying my best, 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: and I you know, I was actually really nervous coming 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: into it as well. I really really nervous, But like 95 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna be one hundred percent myself. 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: They're gonna love me. They're gonna love me. If they 97 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: don't like me, they don't like me in a sense. 98 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: So like I went in and did the best that 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: I could was. 100 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: It what you expected? Hockey? Was it when you got there? 101 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: Was it what you expected? 102 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: Or in what kind? And what you feel like? 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: I don't know who was on the beach, what you 104 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: thought you were going to get when you got Obviously 105 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: you didn't think you'd go home so soon? But what now? 106 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: You know? Everybody wants the love story. I wanted the 107 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: love story. I wanted to be able to get on 108 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 3: one knee and propose to somebody. So that was always 109 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: the expectation, always kind of put you know, I'm always there. 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: I was there waiting for you. I came you just 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: God waits with me. 112 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Don't play on my heart, don't play if loud to you? 113 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: Right now? 114 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Who did you want to stay on the beach sit 115 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: besides me? 116 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: For somebody to be there? And they weren't. 117 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: I mean, they were absolutely on the beach. But she's 118 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: she uh, she's in a relationship. Who is she, Parisa, 119 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: She's in a very happy relationship. So, like, I was 120 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: so excited to meet her, and literally twenty four hours afterwards, 121 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: she's on the beach, you know, So that was a dagger. 122 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: I at least wanted my shot to try to just 123 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: say hi and tell her how much I enjoy her 124 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: energy and how much I think she would be great 125 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: as a girlfriend. Obviously not right away being her girlfriend, 126 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: but I just she brings a lot to the table. 127 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: So again, like, yeah, she's amazing. 128 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, had the opportunity to tell her, did 129 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: you ever say anything? 130 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: She wasn't there. 131 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I know, I'm outside of the show. 132 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: Outside of the show now because before I saw her 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 3: at STK Steakhouse for a grants ending of his season, 134 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: but I never chatted with her. I actually wanted to 135 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: keep it very platonic. I mean, I waved at her, 136 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: and she saw that I saw her, and so forth, 137 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: but I wanted to keep it very platonic before paradise, 138 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: you know, and so forth, so it doesn't seem like 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: I was trying to get to know her beforehand and 140 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: all that so forth. But yeah, I never got to 141 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: shoot my shot. All good though, It's not, like I said, like, 142 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: everything happens for a reason, and hopefully she's extremely happy 143 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: with whatever she's doing, because that's all that matters. But 144 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: my woman's out there. 145 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: Were you surprised about the five hundred thousand dollars. 146 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: He didn't know when he was there? 147 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: Correct? Yeah, the five hundred thousand dollars, I had mixed emotions. 148 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: To be honest, I was super excited for him because 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: that's a lot of money, a lot of when I 150 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: got student loans that I got to pay off, and 151 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: you know, I would be very, very happy. But I 152 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: feel like it just changed the meaning of the show 153 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: though a little bitter. People started to be strategic, and 154 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell are we being strategic on 155 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: a love show for We're trying to get married, you 156 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 157 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: Hold on came, which would you have chosen? Then? Would 158 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: you if you had stayed around and you have coupled 159 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: up with someone, would you have chosen the money or love? 160 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: And if you couldn't choose both? 161 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh, you couldn't choose. 162 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: I don't know you can. I don't know what I'm saying. 163 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: No, no, no. For sure, to be honest with you, 164 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: if I'm going down to the end and I'm getting 165 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: down on one knee or pick the money, I'm gonna 166 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: be honest, I'm probably gonna get down on one knee. 167 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: Here's the reason why is because like, you can always 168 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: earn five hundred thousand dollars, and I put myself in 169 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: a situation. I'm going to put myself in my brain 170 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 3: to say that I'm going to make that much money 171 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: in the future, and I can do that, but I'm 172 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: not going to sacrifice something that might be once in 173 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: a lifetime. 174 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: That's not the way I got to expect that. 175 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 176 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Money, Wait, my brain goes here. Okay, if you guys 177 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: are a couple and you speak about it, we're gonna 178 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: say I'm choosing the money on TV and I'll see 179 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: you afterwards. Do you think something like that could happen? 180 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: How they got cameras on us everywhere inside our rooms outside? 181 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: You can't. You can't just be like a you know, like. 182 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but how came they can't when you go home? 183 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: If you choose the money, they can't stop you from 184 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: calling up, you know. I mean, I don't know what 185 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: the rules are, but you. 186 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Know, maybe the rule says if you hook up with 187 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: that person when you leave, then you have to pay back. 188 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 189 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I wanted that money too. But 190 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: if it came down to the end, like you know, 191 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: just had to pick, Like I didn't know you had 192 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: to pick love or the money? 193 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: Wait, is that what you have to do? I could 194 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: get because that's what you said. 195 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,119 Speaker 3: You made it to the finale? How the hell you confused? 196 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: Because I I, what do you mean? Because I I 197 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: wasn't there for the very end. 198 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: They planted a seed last week for the coming attractions 199 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: of this sweet coming next week. It's saying, maybe it's 200 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: the money, maybe it's for love. I don't know to 201 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: make a decision. 202 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: I believe, I believe you can have both. But wait, 203 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: I want to know, because you know, Mondy, it's boring 204 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: talking about money. Yeah, I want to know what you thought. 205 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: I know you didn't get to meet us, But what 206 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: did you think about Golden's being on the show? 207 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: He does you the Goldens as a whole? Yeah? 208 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: Well really, let's make it all about me. 209 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: What did you think about let me let me let 210 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: me say this one more time, as a young bluck 211 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: buck that was on the Bachelor in Paradise. Without the 212 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Golden we wouldn't have the viewership, We wouldn't know. You 213 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: held it down. Specifically, you you needed you were You 214 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: started a whole trend like yo, I need some tequila, yo, 215 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: and let me get a bottle of one, Like you 216 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: started a whole trend. We was born as fuck, I'm sorry, 217 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bets. I'm just gonna be honest with you. You 218 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: guys held it down. There were stories for days that 219 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: were true and honest stories. Yeah, you had Gary, you 220 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: had Leslie finance, you had Kathy up there with Keith, 221 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: you had Kim, you had April out there cougar hunting. 222 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,239 Speaker 3: They you guys brought a You guys, your energy unmatched, 223 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: And that's my biggest Obviously, I wanted to meet Parisa too, 224 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: because she's beautiful. 225 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: She is, and no, she's as sweet and kind and 226 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: smart as she is beautiful, and I think she's really that. 227 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: But with when it comes down to you guys, I 228 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: really was so excited for seeing you guys, and I 229 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: never got to see you guys. And that literally hurts 230 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: so much because when I was watching one, obviously watch 231 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: it back when you guys came through and everyone's having 232 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: so much fun. 233 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: You guys were so lit, I was jealous. 234 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: You know what. 235 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: That's God, we came, we came down fun. That's the 236 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: difference in our ages. 237 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: We came. Guys all killed it and crushed it. And 238 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: you looked fire to Kathy. Let me tell you that 239 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 3: you look fire out there. 240 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: Keep talking, keep talking. I love it. 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: I wait, tell you, I love it. 242 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: Would you do Paradise again? Because you didn't? 243 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: Yill no, hell no. 244 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: So wait I read somewhere that you crawled back into 245 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: your shell after filming. Is there any truth to that? 246 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: And why all back into my shell when it came? 247 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 248 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: If I'm going to go on a show, I wanted 249 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: to be very intentional. I feel like in this, like 250 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: now that I know like this five hundred thousand dollars 251 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: involved with it, it just changes the whole thing because 252 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: you're going to go into it like damn, I want 253 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: the money too. Like going into there, I was going 254 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: in and I'm thinking like, oh, they're gonna bring you know, 255 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: we're gonna bring all these girls because you know we 256 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: talked beforehand. They're gonna bring in like all these girls 257 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: that we talked about. So then I can really build 258 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: a connection. But then at the end of the day, 259 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: you forget it's a TV show too, and they're doing 260 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: their job by making great TV. And yeah, I'm thirty 261 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: one now I'm trying to find love. I would go 262 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: on a TV show, maybe like a competition game show 263 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: or something that's very intentional to find that person, their 264 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: person specifically, that's their So why. 265 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: Would you want paradise again? 266 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Kathy, come on now, I'm not I like Kathy. 267 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: Come on now, what you just on the Kathy like? 268 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: Come on, Kathy got to stay, so it's a different experience. 269 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: You stay for what the five hundred thousand and then she. 270 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: Wait a second, I got to clear my name. Keith 271 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: and I said, and I think that's why the young 272 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: ones liked us so much, because we gave advice and 273 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: we were friendly and I love I love all y'all. 274 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: But Keith and I had said, and we meant it, 275 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: we are not taking money out of young's hands, I 276 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: said on last week's episode. Oh no, we had told them, 277 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: and we said on the odisode we said, well, it's 278 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: not that, It's just that at our age, relationships with 279 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: people is more valuable to us than putting money more 280 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: money in the bank. And you guys, you have college 281 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: loans to pay off. That's what I said about Alex. 282 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: She has college loans to pay off. You guys want 283 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: to buy your first house and that could be a 284 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: real big jump start. So Keith and I were not 285 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: taking money out of young kid's hands. It's not why 286 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: I stayed, That's not why Keith stayed. So now I'm. 287 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: Came quickly and left. You were there really quick, And look, 288 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: that has to be a lot because you prepare and 289 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: you can't wait to get there and have this experience 290 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: and then within this a second it's over. 291 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: I think the host point part was truthfully, that they 292 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: announced me that early and then like, none of the 293 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: girls that I was expecting to be there was there. 294 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: Who else? How am I going to do? 295 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: Now? 296 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: Who else were you expecting? 297 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: I was hoping Parisa, I was hoping Jojo was gonna 298 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: be there. She's with Sam m kinney. We love that 299 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: she's Sam McKinnie and all that. Let's see who else? 300 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: Who else? Who was? Honestly, I was really looking forward 301 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: to getting to know those two girls, and whoever came came. 302 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: Also Olivia Lewis I mentioned her way beforehand too, after 303 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: our mentell awe and all that good stuff. But yeah, 304 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a person that's going to force it. 305 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: You know, I did it. I loved it. Bachelorette was 306 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: amazing and all that. 307 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, do you believe you can find 308 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: love in Paradise. 309 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you see grocery Store Joe. And uh. 310 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: So I'm saying, and so I'm asking you why if 311 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: you believe in love, you want to find love, why 312 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't you do Paradise Again. 313 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: Well, grocery Store Joe didn't have to choose between five 314 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars and love, you know, So that was 315 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: a whole different dynamic than so, like I can take 316 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: a girl down all the way to the final and 317 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: then she can say I actually want the money, So 318 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: you kind of just fire. You're playing with fire at 319 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: this point because now people are going to go on 320 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: the show for money too. So like that's why I 321 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to do it, because I know I'm an 322 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: impath and I know I'm going to be hurt and 323 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: like for me, like yeah, like that's gonna Yeah. I've 324 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: been heartbroken before and it's taken me a long time, 325 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: and especially if I'm going to be engaged with somebody, 326 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't I have never felt that type of heartbreak before, 327 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: and I empathize for all the men and women who have, 328 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: But like, I can never put myself in a situation 329 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: that you know, I. 330 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: Can I get solve this for you? What's I can 331 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: solve this? You go on Paradise again, if they ask you, 332 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: you find the girl, you fall in love. If you 333 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: don't win the money and she wants some money, Susan 334 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: will just send her a check for five hundred k. 335 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: You get the money, You get the money. 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: Is this new for every Paradise They're gonna know money? 337 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: Who knows. I don't know. 338 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: It might be something they just tried once. 339 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: Who knows. 340 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think about the new way the 341 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: show was narrated and the way they did things now? 342 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: I mean I'm not hating or nothing like that. I 343 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: just think personally for her team, I don't think I 344 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: can make that. I don't know if I'll be able 345 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: to be that vulnerable that I would have to trust 346 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: that someone's gonna pick me over five hundred thousand, Because 347 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: I know myself right, if I find somebody that's gonna 348 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: marry me, who's gonna have my children, all those things, 349 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to do whatever I can, I'm gonna die 350 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: of headfirst in that. And I can't have the same 351 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: expectation that someone's gonna have the same type of mindset. 352 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: And that's why I would rather I mean, if I. 353 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: Have to have trust, oh yeah. 354 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: For sure chances, But how normal is it that somebody 355 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 3: has to choose five hundred K over you. It's not 356 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 3: a normal situation that you're gonna see every day. So 357 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: like that's the ultimate test, right, But like yeah, so 358 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: like for me, I would I don't. I don't blame 359 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: anybody who would want to take five hundred K. But 360 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: I don't want it to be at the expense of 361 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: my heart. 362 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: To break somebody's heart. I hope it doesn't happen. 363 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, but it's it's it can happen. 364 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: Talk about hate mail? 365 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so wait, are you dating? Anyone came now? 366 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking forward to dating. I'm still not, But 367 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: I mean i'm dating, I'm trying. I'm like, I'm looking around, 368 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 3: I'm chatting, I'm not actively searching. I'm just focusing on 369 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: myself because if I'm not one hundred percent in tip 370 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: top shape, then how am I gonna be able to take 371 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: care of my lady? 372 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: What kind of shape? What are you talking about? Mental shape? 373 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: What kind of shape are we have? 374 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: Emotionally? I think I have to do better with my 375 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: emotional regulation. I think that's my last Like hurdle that 376 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: like I need to learn how to just let things 377 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: go and not you know, you don't have to say stuff, 378 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: you know, And I feel like with that, I feel 379 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of things with me because I'm 380 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: a very in emotional dude. I wear my heart on 381 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: my sleeve and all those twins we've said this people 382 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: my language, no for sure, So like I just don't 383 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: take care of myself in relationships. I make sure to 384 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: take care of my partner in tenfold, and then I 385 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: don't have anything for me. So I got to love myself. 386 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: I don't think I say I love myself. I say 387 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: I'm confident. Yeah I think I'm a good looking dude, 388 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: But like, do I truly love myself? How much that 389 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: I love other people? Because I love other people because 390 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: I seek that validation that they need me, they want me, 391 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: they love me too, instead of just saying I'm going 392 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: to do this because I love them. Done. 393 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: Because if you're able to say what you just said 394 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and you realize this, you're almost now tell me about 395 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: this model. 396 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: Thing, my model modeling modeling mode. 397 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: Right away, A model. 398 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: With a model. 399 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I walked at San Diego Swim Week. As you 400 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 3: probably I saw that thing that you were. 401 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: It was bizarre. 402 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: It was I mean, I would say it was different, different, different. 403 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: I wouldn't wear it. Probably none of that's because I'm 404 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: not I don't got the swag like that. 405 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: To be How did you feel? How did you feel? 406 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: It was liberating because they had me there and they 407 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: were like the queen, just be yourself because I knew 408 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: going into this, I'm like, guys, I'm not sure you 409 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 3: know your your average you know, runway model. That's like 410 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: you know all that, you know me be me. I 411 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: was out there in the kwan, I was everybody was 412 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: enjoying it, but I can tell like the modeling coordinator 413 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: was like a little bit embarrassed, was like, oh my god. 414 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: But dude, the designers, the audience, they were lazy. 415 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: How did that come about? How did they reach out 416 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: to you? How did that come about? 417 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, they reached out to me as an ambassador, and 418 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, you'll need somebody that 419 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: can walk. And then they're like you know what, yeah, 420 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: we got you, we got you. So then they pulled 421 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: the little strings got me in there. Aaron Bryant was 422 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: there too, Brandon Jones as well from brand Jolnes from 423 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: Michelle season. So yeah, it was, it was. It was 424 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: a great opportunity. I'm going to be doing another one 425 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: for charity as well, so I'm excited for that, you know. Fun. 426 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, put it out there, maybe misright 427 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: or come and you know, just check you out. 428 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: Nah, you don't want to do that. I wanted to 429 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: be so organic that I'm like just taken by surprise, 430 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: like yo, like where did you come from? Like you 431 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like where have you been? Because 432 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: I throw it out there, he's gonna be here and 433 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: all that. Like, first of all, I'm a nobody, like. 434 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Never never, never, never never. 435 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm not Michael is Susan. What I'm saying though, is 436 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: is that like in situations like this, I want to 437 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: just run into my woman without it having to be tried. 438 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: Like I don't want to have to feel like I'm 439 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: trying to find her because every person that I've talked 440 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 3: with that's in a happy relationship happens when you're not 441 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: looking amen every single time you're not looking for it, 442 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: and then it just happens. So I'm trusting that I'm 443 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: gonna just keep doing my thing. I'm gonna work on myself. 444 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to try to put good into the world 445 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: and then she will hopefully all right, so I mean, 446 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: bless me. 447 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: All right, So what what do you what are you 448 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: thinking for the rest of this world? What do you 449 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: the rest of yeah, the rest of the world, the 450 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: rest of this year. What are you manifesting for yourself? What? 451 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: Obviously Miswright's gonna compound your door down, your front door down, 452 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: But what else? 453 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: My tip in. 454 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: What else do I have? But I'm walking in another show. 455 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: I'm also going to be going to Vegas for this 456 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: an event. I'm gonna go with Brandon. Brandon's the man 457 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: Brandon from Michelle Sas and Brandon Jones, Like he's kind 458 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: of became like one of my close friends, Like when 459 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 3: I'm very close and he's just hooking me up because 460 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: you know, because he's Brandon Jones. So I'm just you know, 461 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: I'm just there, just you know, having fun there for 462 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: that event. 463 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: So I want to see the event in Vegas. 464 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: It's called Rise. I think okay, it's called Rise. I'm 465 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 3: not sure, if you know. I'm I really don't be 466 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: outside like that. I'm really in the crib watching TV. 467 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: So like if I get if I get invited some 468 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: fuck it. You want me to go to Vegas? Fuck it, 469 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 3: I'll do it. 470 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: Just remember what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Hockey. 471 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: No, yeah, girl, all right, we gotta move. 472 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: We are going to move into our topic of the 473 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: day because you were. 474 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: I have one more things. I'm get here. Transplant. I'm 475 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 3: dead ass, I'm getting it. I'm going to Turkey and 476 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm getting in here. 477 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: Trs just got back from Turkey. 478 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: What Circe is? 479 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: What we invited you? But you didn't answer the call 480 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: when we called somebody to leave it out here? 481 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: You didn't. You don't have my digits, you know you really? 482 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: I can get your digits, trust me. 483 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: Won't you? I ain't even do something with it then. 484 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: So you're gonna do it? 485 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: Yes? 486 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: Do what? 487 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: The hair transplant? 488 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're gonna see me. I'm a fresh cut. 489 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a forehead like it's so smart. My 490 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 3: forehead is about five in the bitches, I got a 491 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: five head. So when I'm gonna have that line to 492 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: go down had my line is so Chris, nobody's gonna 493 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: be able to say. 494 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: No, okay, why Turkey? A couple of my clients did it. 495 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: One just supposed to be and he did it in 496 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: Florida's supposed to be the place for uh, it didn't. 497 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 3: He got money money. He's doing it in Florida. You're 498 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 3: doing it in the States. He got money money. All right. 499 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Well, if you need a nurse to take care of 500 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: you afterward, Kathy and I we know all about this. Themble. 501 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: Oh shit, I think I might take care of me 502 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: right now. 503 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: Keep literally keep your shirt eye. All right, we are 504 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: moving into our topic of the day before this degenerates 505 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: any further. All Right, Hockey, what do you find to 506 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: be more romantic Grant? I already know the answer this, 507 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna ask you anyway. Grand gestures are small 508 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: everyday things? 509 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: And why small everyday gestures or grand gestures? Which no, 510 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: every day small gesture not grand gestures. Yes, so I 511 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: don't think I don't need all the grand stuff and 512 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: all that. I want you to do things to let 513 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: me know that you're thinking about me. It doesn't have 514 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: to be you're taking me to Nobuo to get some sushi, 515 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: like if you're just making my life easier. If I 516 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: got to go to work and you see, I'm in 517 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: the shower and my clothes aren't you know, my clothes 518 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: are crinkled, and you're like, hey, let me take care 519 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: of this real quick for you, or let me start 520 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: a coffee for you real quick. That makes me think that, 521 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: oh yeah, she cares about my well being and like 522 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: how I am feeling at this moment, not just trying 523 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: to get this grand gesture to be like oh wow, 524 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: you did such a great thing like blah blah blah blah. 525 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: But she's actually that world. 526 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: I just love language, so you speak. Remember we talked 527 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: about love languages. 528 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly. We're all the same. I would 529 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: much rather have a small gesture and for exactly the 530 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: same reason I came. Just they're thinking about me, They 531 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: care about my welfare. Just that small thing of turning 532 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: on the coffee they care. 533 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, are you coffee? 534 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: Bringing the calling to me is caring. 535 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: Bringing the coffee. You're right, that is such. 536 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: A delight when that happens. It's not but sure, over 537 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: the times that I've been out and when someone does that, 538 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, that's I do it for 539 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: people all the time. 540 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: Does your man do it for you right now? 541 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: Well? He does live in the States. 542 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 3: So where does part of me? Where does he live? 543 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: He lives in Saint Martin. 544 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 2: Saint Martin, French, West Indies. Oh oh Caribbean. 545 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Ye never Actually, I always get up first. 546 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: So yeah, hold on, you're dating a brother he Caribbean. 547 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: I was like, hold on, he's he's from French, from France, 548 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: there's Saint Martin has two sides, a Dutch side and 549 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: the French side. 550 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, that's interesting. 551 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: But I love your love language and Kathy, you you 552 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: like the small gestures too. For me, it's about attention 553 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: and physical touch, like when I'm in the room and 554 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: you just you know, touch me. I'm a touchy person too, 555 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: and everybody like I want all four of the love languages. 556 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what. 557 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: A long time to learn that my partner didn't necessarily 558 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: have the same love language as I did. And I 559 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: never knew that. I always assumed what I like, I 560 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: would do for them, but that's not their love language, 561 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: you know. It took me a long time. 562 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure. It's taken a lot of failed 563 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: relationships for myself to realize that even my communication style 564 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: isn't the way other people want to be communicated to 565 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: as well. So yeah, now totally for sure with that, Kathy, 566 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 3: what is your thoughts You're are you a physical touch person? 567 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: You like to marry so I'm sleep Oh, go ahead. 568 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: Some people like gifts, you know, I buy gifts, but 569 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily need the gifts. 570 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: I just need I'm the same I I My thing is, 571 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: I like I like the small gestures. I mean, you 572 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: want to bring me a Porsche, I'm not going to 573 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: turn it down, but you know that's not my goal. 574 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, just the and I'm very much honestly, It's 575 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: gotten into trouble sometimes with men who I'm not I'm 576 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: a touchy person, but yeah, they misread that. 577 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: No, I get it. I totally understand that if someone 578 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: is just laying down right, I wake up in the 579 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: middle of night and I just need to touch you, 580 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: just to Yeah, I don't know. How do you feel 581 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: about that? Is that weird? 582 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: Do you feel like because you know they're they're wanting 583 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: to be there? 584 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: You know, we had a question earlier I came about 585 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: on another podcast about sleeping in separate bets. I was like, no, 586 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: I like to put my cold feet on your back 587 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: and stay y has sleep apnea. 588 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: I got my own room. 589 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: I'm sorry you ain't ship you age ship. 590 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: No, you are. 591 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: The Susan. They've come a long way. They now have 592 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: little things. They implanted your skin. 593 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: Everybody could get. 594 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: All right again. We're gonna move on here to our 595 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: advice ports. You're gonna give some advice. I came already. 596 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna ask a question and you're just 597 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: gonna tell us what you think. All right, here we go. 598 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: This question is from Zach. He's twenty eight from Shorthills, 599 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: New Jersey. Hi, Kathy and Susan. My mom listens to 600 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: your podcast and she is also having trouble helping me 601 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: with this situation, so she told me to write in. 602 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: I've been dating my girlfriend for about five months now, 603 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: and this is actually my first real relationship. Overall, I'm 604 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: really happy and honestly just excited to have found someone 605 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: I connect with. The only problem is my best friend, 606 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: who also happens to be my roommate, doesn't like her. 607 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: He's constantly pushing for quote guys' nights where she isn't invited, 608 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: and he makes me feel guilty if I choose to 609 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: spend time with her or have her sleepover. When I 610 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: asked him why he feels this way, he told me 611 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: he thinks she has quote controlling vibes and that she's 612 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: not the right person for me. This has been tough 613 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 2: because he and I have been close and through her 614 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: little kids, and I really value his opinion. At the 615 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: same time, I care about my girlfriend and just want 616 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: him to be happy for me. I'm stuck between wanting 617 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: to honor a lifelong friendship and also wanting to explore 618 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 2: this new relationship. How do I balance both without losing 619 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: one or the other? 620 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: How old does he say? He's twenty seven, twenty eight, 621 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: twenty eight? He a grown ass man talking about he 622 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: wanted him to come over boys and night. If he's 623 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: trying to get to know a woman and you're telling 624 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: him he's in t shit, feel guilty because he's spending time, 625 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: he's tripping, his friend is tripping. If that's really, I'll 626 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: be damn facts. I'll be damn if one of my 627 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: homies is like, man, you know you gotta, you know, 628 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: you gotta, You've gotta make time for us, you know. 629 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: And I think she's super controlling, Like I know what 630 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: I'm getting myself into as well, Right, I can stand 631 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: on business and so forth and so forth. I don't 632 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: need another person tell him that. Yo, Like, we don't 633 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: want you dating this person. So Zach, you need to 634 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: just go follow through with this, you know what I mean? 635 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: So like, in this whole situation, you're not in the wrong. 636 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: There's nothing for you to balance. I think the only 637 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: thing that needs to balance something is your homie. He 638 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: needs to balance the fact that he needs to know 639 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: that his friend is still his friend, but he's exploring 640 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: a connection, so you better does he say it? 641 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: But Hakem, does he come out and say it to 642 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: his friend? Because remember this is Zach's first real relationship, 643 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: so he's probably, you know, a little unnerved by the 644 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: whole thing, and he doesn't want to lose his childhood friend. 645 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: And he's probably I mean, you know, you're a man 646 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: about the world, you've been out about, but this guy 647 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: is never dated. This is first relationship. He doesn't want 648 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: to so what's gonna I'm gonna keep him both. 649 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: He adds something to that before you answered, Hakim, and 650 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I agree with what you said, but I try to 651 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: keep an open mind. What if because it is his 652 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: first real relationship, he's got his blinders on and he's 653 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: gonna lun the hard way answer and her and his 654 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: roommate sees it like it could be. 655 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: It could be, but he's gonna learn. He's got to 656 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: learn his own lessons own. 657 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I think the roommate's jealous. He's gonna lose a roommate. 658 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 3: I truly just think that in that situation he just 659 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: is jealous one or be just bored because some of 660 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 3: the time that he was getting with Zach is now 661 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: being in a woman that he doesn't like as well. 662 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: And truthfully, it's no one's business if she if he 663 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: has his blinders on or not. In my point of view, 664 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: I think in the in this grand scheme of everything, 665 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: if he's happy in that relationship and that is your 666 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: best friend from childhood, you want to him to augment 667 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: his his happiness. So and she's doing that, Like, why 668 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: would you be upset with that? And if that person 669 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: stops being your friend, that wasn't your friend. 670 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm gonna I gotta ask you. I know 671 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: not I totally agree with you, But what you're not 672 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: saying is how does he handle the situation? Does he 673 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: goes to his friend and says, hey, homide fill in 674 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: the blank. What does he. 675 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: Say out, stay in your laying, biting bitch. 676 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: She's talking to his roommate. 677 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 5: What is wrong in the big Honestly, if it comes 678 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: down to it, he should just say to him like, hey, like, 679 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 5: I know you're feeling some type of way about this 680 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: whole situation. 681 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: I mean' not a big fan of my current girlfriend, 682 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: but hey, this is my first relationship ever and I'm 683 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: feeling great in this relationship. And I know you're not 684 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: a big fan of her, but right now, unfortunately, like 685 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: I feel like I want to keep progressing things and 686 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: I want you to be a part of that. So 687 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: like for me exactly there in space. I love it. 688 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: I hope you heard us. 689 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if listen and hockey, if bobeling doesn't work 690 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: out or whatever else you're doing, you could become a 691 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: therapist for young stupid boys. 692 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Therapist, Like I could see a coach. I 693 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: could be a coach and like, yeah, just a life coach. 694 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: And just like worried about things that actually matter. I 695 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 3: think we worry about things that don't matter so much 696 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 3: more than you know, the small stuff. 697 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: All right, Hockey, we we've asked you a lot of questions. 698 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: Do you have anything you want to ask us? You know, 699 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: we know you better. Do you want to know? What 700 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: do you want to know? Open the floor? What do 701 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: you what do you know? 702 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: Are you doing right now? Kathy? What's going on? 703 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh? Just stab me? Just stab me? Stab me? 704 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: You asked me, she makes friends. 705 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: I would love to be dating, but I'm not. But 706 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: you know, someone, Kathy, you are fine. 707 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 3: Don't don't do that. Don't make itsull. You know somebody, 708 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: there's men out there that they see you and they're like, damn, 709 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: she's tough, like they want to talk to her so like. 710 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: Hockey they do, and it just so happens that that's 711 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: not her person, right Kathy, there's somebody trying to get 712 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: her right now and. 713 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 3: Right now no listening to your podcast. 714 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: Oh listen. He's a nice guy. He and I are 715 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: on separate politically. We're not aligned. There's no huh. The man, 716 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: the guy that's and that would like to date me, 717 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: we are not politically aligned. 718 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 3: We're not. 719 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: We don't like to do the same things. I mean, 720 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: you know, he said to me, you're beautiful, I want 721 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: to date you. Well there's you know, thank you but 722 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: you know so, no, I would love I don't. I 723 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: don't have a spark for him. I would love I 724 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: have a friend spark for him. I would love to 725 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 2: find someone to date, but it's not as easy I came. 726 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Women reach out to men from Golden 727 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: Bachelor and and Golden Bachelor. At the men get reached 728 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: out to because women are on social media. Guys in 729 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: their sixties, they are not on social media for the 730 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: most part, and they don't know how to. They don't 731 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: have Yeah, so I got a problem. So if you 732 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: can solve that for me, I'd be, I'd be I'd 733 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: be I'd be. 734 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: Very greats for you. I can absolutely do that. Be 735 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: the middle man for you. That's gonna be easy, money easy. 736 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 3: So you have non negotiables, clearly we see here. What 737 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: else are your other non negotiables for you that you're. 738 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: Like, I actually have very few non negotiables. I want 739 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: I want a guy that will travel with me. I 740 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: want a guy that will make me laugh. You know, 741 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 2: everyone says you're I'm so funny, and I make them laugh. 742 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: I want someone that makes me laugh. I want to 743 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: have fun with someone. I would you know, he's got 744 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: to understand that I'm not a great cook. Like I'm 745 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: not going to sit there and not a great cook. 746 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: I can cook, I can't cook. I don't I don't 747 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: want to cook. I want something. 748 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: I want. I want to be real. 749 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: I can't cook. 750 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: I want somebody. 751 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: I want somebody. 752 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: She can play golf and she's super super smart. She'll 753 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: figure out anything. She'll write you a letter or an email, 754 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, brilliant. But when it comes to the kitchen, 755 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: I cann't cook. So I want somebody who likes adventure, 756 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: who's fit. I'm not looking. 757 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: I want here's the problem, hakm And I'm just then 758 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna put this whole podcast to rest. 759 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: I am seventy two years old, but I have the energy. 760 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 2: All my friends are in their forties and fifties and 761 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: they can't keep up with me. So there's a big 762 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 2: disconnect there. 763 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: Guys want you know it's it's it's worried about the number. Yeah. 764 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: Wait, So for the energy wise, are you meaning like 765 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 3: your sex drive or just meaning like going out wise? 766 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: All of this physically shape, I'm in great shape, you 767 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: know all of it. I have energy for everything. And 768 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: you know, men look at the number and go. 769 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: Note, she says, might say your famous line, I don't 770 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: want to used to guy. 771 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: I don't want to used to guy. You know what 772 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: he used to guy? Is uh hakma used to guy. 773 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: He used to play tennis, he used to ski, he 774 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: used to travel, and now he sits his ass on 775 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: the sofa. That's absolutely nothing. 776 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: Got it, got it, definitely understand. But I think the 777 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 3: age is nothing but a number. Truth. I'm being honest. 778 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: You see shere, She's phenomenous, she's she's she's not real, 779 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 3: She's not real. 780 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: That's about me. 781 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: You are literally beautiful, basically basically what I'm saying. You 782 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 3: are literally phenomenal inwardly and outwardly. You are literally gorgeous. 783 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: You gotta think for Susan, so I don't know what 784 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: to say. 785 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: It's just chemistry, Kathy, you can't make that. 786 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: Shut up. Yeah, I mean Susan is like Susan and 787 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: I he's just Yeah. 788 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: It was instant the day I met you, it was like, wow, 789 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: she was stiff. Freeze could hurt my feelings at times. 790 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: People's negative comments on my Instagram accounts like why did 791 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: they say that? 792 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 3: Why are you so mean to me? And also Kathy truthfully, 793 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 3: I have a huge crush on Chris Jenner as well 794 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 3: and Susan. Susan is literally. 795 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: Like, excuse me, have you seen Chris General lately? They 796 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: look nothing alike anymore. 797 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: She's gorgeous. 798 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 2: She looks like they don't look alike anymore. I'm serious. 799 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 2: I love you, Susan. 800 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: That's ships I need is like cheeken plants or something. 801 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: But I love Chris. 802 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's gorgeous. Okay, well gorgeous. What's up? You got 803 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: you kicking me out? 804 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: It's about time here, it's and I just want to say, Hakeem, yeah, 805 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: after we get off this podcast, you better get before 806 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: you crawl in her shirt. You better go find me 807 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 2: a guy. 808 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, With that being said, that does it for 809 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. 810 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: Thank you all, Thank you, Hakeem, Thank you all for 811 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: joining us, and be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour 812 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 2: as we have new episodes coming out every week and 813 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: you don't mind to miss even. 814 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: And we promise each and every one of you we 815 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: will have him back on here. 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