1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: M Welcome to Strictly Business Varieties weekly podcast featuring conversations 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: with industry leaders about the business of media and entertainment. 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm Cynthia Littleton, co editor in chief of Variety Today. 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: My guest is Enon Cries, Chairman and CEO of Mattel. 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: He's the leader of one of the world's biggest toymakers, 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: and he's sitting on a treasure trove of i P 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: in the company's vault. Mattel brands like Hot Wheels, Masters 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: of the Universe, Uno, Fisher Price, American Girl, and of 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: course Barbie haven't been exploited as content as much as 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: other big toy names. Cries wants content to become a 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: growth engine in and of itself for Mattel. He knows 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: that a lot of the brands in Mattel's vault have 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: the kind of multigenerational appeal that is catnip to Hollywood. 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Christ came to Mattel into the eighteen after a long 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: career in media. He was a key partner of haim 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: saban And launching Fox Kids, and he's served as CEO 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: of Endemol and Maker Studios. During his travels. In his 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: time at Mattel, Prize has won praise from investors for 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: executing a turnaround of the toy maker's fortunes through cost 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: cutting and focus. During our conversation, he also contrasts the 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: challenges and opportunities in the toy business with the market 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: in the other kind of entertainment business that he knows well. 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: They're both driven by hits, he observes, and both are 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: wildly unpredictable. That's all coming up after the break. Non Prize, 25 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: Chairman and CEO of Mattel, thank you so much for 26 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: joining me today. Thank you for inviting me. It's great 27 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: to be here. Something you know and you had a 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: long history. You had a long career in media entertainment 29 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: at very high levels, working as a senior manager at 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Fox Fox at the time of big growth for Fox 31 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: in the US and overseas. You were the CEO of 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: End them All at a time when that company was 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: really in need of rehabilitation. And since you have been 34 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: the CEO of Mattel, where you have come in and 35 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: it has also been another turnaround campaign for you. I 36 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: want to talk about Mattel's core business, but first I 37 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: would like to start by talking to you at the 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: very high level coming into the retail toy sector after 39 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: a long and distinguished career in media and entertainment. Tell 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: me what you found was was similar to the way 41 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: media entertainment works, and what impressed you about the toy 42 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: business as being distinct about the toy business in the 43 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: way that media has so many of its own quirks 44 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, quirks and and little surprises that 45 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: it has for people. What what stood out to you 46 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: and when you we're getting to know the toy and 47 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: retail business. Well, Mattel is one of America's most iconic company, 48 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: and I've always revered it. I looked at it from 49 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: from outside, being in in children's entertainment and obviously being 50 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: in the business in general. UM and Mattel at the 51 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: time when I initially joined the board, UH just was 52 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: in need of a turnaround and I was curious to 53 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: be part of that that situation. UH. And shortly after 54 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I joined the board UM, I was offered the opportunity 55 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: to become chairman and CEO. And by that time I 56 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: realized that the opportunity for Mattel is to shift from 57 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: being what the company thought of yourself at the time 58 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: of being a toy manufacturing company into being an I 59 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: P company UH. And this is really underpinned by the 60 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: fact that Mattel owns one of the strongest catalog for 61 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: UH in children for children and family entertainment franchises in 62 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the world. And to me, the opportunity was not only 63 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: to UH to UH to thrive as a toy company, 64 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: which is a great business in and of itself, but 65 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: also to extend what we do into highly accreative business 66 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: verticals that are driven by by big brands, big franchises 67 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: and commercialize the dis incredible portfolio of of Evergreen franchises 68 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: outside of the toy aisle. And this was really what 69 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: attracted me to the company and the opportunity to be 70 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: part of this journey. It's interesting because it sounds like 71 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: walking in the door, you saw I P, you saw 72 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: the potential for I P, which is the you know, 73 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: seemingly the most valuable commodity on earth. And it seems 74 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: like right there walking in the door, you were marrying. 75 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: You know, you were bringing together your experience and knowing 76 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: how to how the levels of media and television and 77 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: entertainment work. Can you give me an example of what 78 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: were some of the first things you did to realize 79 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: that strategy. Now, what our strategy was to uh really 80 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: had two parts to it. First is too, is to 81 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: become a high performing toy company. Uh. And there alone, 82 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: if you can uh you know, if you run the 83 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: company well, uh, the tremendous opportunity for upside. It's a 84 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: great business. The toy industry is a great industry. It's 85 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: a growth industry. And and when things work well for 86 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: toy companies, they thrive and do extremely well. So that 87 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: was step number one. Uh. And then the second part 88 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: was was to uh start to capture value from our 89 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: intellectual properties. Barbie, Hot Whales, Fisher Price, American Girl, you know, 90 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: Masters of the Universe, h Thomas the Tank, uh and 91 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: I can go on and on and on and just 92 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: name franchises and brands that have been around for decades, 93 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: in some cases three generations. And and yet the company 94 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: never really uh participated in other other verticals and never 95 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: really commercialized its intellectual property outside of the toy aisle. Yes, 96 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: we did some contents, uh, some television content and and 97 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, and different things, but it was mostly designed 98 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: to sell more toys. What what our strategies said that 99 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, and this is what this is. The journey 100 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: we're on is to participate in other verticals, uh, that 101 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: will be commercially successful in and of themselves, not in 102 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: order to sell more toys, to sell movie tickets and 103 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: exactly advertises. Let's ry that that engage consumers. And you know, 104 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: they're very successful content companies, successful television production companies, successful 105 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: movie company is successful digital companies. Ultimately in the media 106 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: world in entertainment, it's they're all driven by big brands, 107 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: big I p uh and and this is what we 108 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: what we own, what we bring to the table, and 109 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, and and the analogy, the closest analogy will 110 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: be what happened with Marvel. That was a comic book publisher, 111 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: as we all know. But really what was interesting there 112 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: is the incredible I P that the company owned. And 113 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: looking at that analogy, we all know that in success, 114 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: in success, this this can be transformed transformative. In success, 115 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: this can be transformative. And and this is what attracted 116 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: me to the opportunity. And this is the road we're 117 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: on and making exciting progress on the journey. So you 118 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: are writing checks, you are financing your own content, You 119 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: are not partnering on the production side with people or 120 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: you doing a mix of both. So our approach is 121 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: to be a capitalize our our What we bring to 122 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: the table is the intellectual property those franchises that are 123 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: known and have a large built in fan base, and 124 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: then we collaborate with the best filmmakers, the best distributors, 125 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the best studios out there per project. We in a 126 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: sense play quarterback in that we uh we passed the 127 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: ball to the best player, the best partner in in 128 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: in a per genre, her project, her opportunity, and we 129 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: can really optimize those relationships depending on the type of 130 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: IP that we are taking out. We do participate creatively. 131 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: We are producers on our project where we always bring 132 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: in our expertise and know how and the understanding of 133 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: the DNA, the brand purpose, the cultural relevance that made 134 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: them successful in the beginning. But we we are looking 135 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: to attract the best creators in the world to and 136 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: allow them to reimagine our brands and and and interpret 137 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: them through their own lens to create an engaging experience 138 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: for audiences and consumers, not in order to sell more toys. 139 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: We don't make movies to sell more toys. We we 140 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: try to make movies that people would want to watch uh, 141 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: and television content that will be engaging and entertaining. UH. 142 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: And yes, if things work out, we know what to 143 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: do with toys. But the mandate is to our creative 144 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: partners and to our own teams at Mattel Film and 145 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: Metel Television, is to make great content that people want 146 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: to watch, not try to sell more toys. And this 147 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: has been a real, uh, you know, a really important 148 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: part of our offering and why we believe we've been 149 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: able to attract, you know, some of the best creators 150 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: of our generation on the film side and the television side, 151 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: to to reimagine our franchises for the big screen, streaming platforms, 152 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: television and so forth. Well, on that note, you know, 153 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: the route that you are taking with you know, what's 154 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: going to be a very high profile Barbie movie is 155 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: very untraditional. You've got a director, Greta Gerwig, who is 156 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, not the kind of you know, not the 157 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: kind of director that you would get for a movie 158 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: that if you wanted, if you were the goal was 159 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: to sell toys. Let's just say that one of the 160 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, one of the fastest rising young directors in Hollywood, 161 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: let alone female directors. Can you talk a little bit 162 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: more about about why you went that approach. Obviously, this 163 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: is not going to be a Barbie adventure where she 164 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: ends up at a at a toy store where everybody 165 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: buys more by Barbie, Like, can you talk about why 166 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: this path for this movie. Our goal was to make 167 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: just an incredible movie, uh and great you know, quality 168 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: experience for consumers. And and Robbie Browner, who uh runs 169 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: MATEL MATEL Films, is very good at that also very 170 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: focused on quality. And we were looking to partner together 171 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: with Warner Brothers and Margot Robbie who at that time 172 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: was already attached to the project for the best the 173 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: best director uh in the world of this generation that 174 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: will imagine Barbie in in in a way that will 175 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,119 Speaker 1: appeal to consumers of all generations and will be authentic, 176 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: will be authentic and authentic representation of Barbie means today. 177 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: Barbie evolved over the years and not everyone is aware, 178 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: but Barbie today is really a flag carrier for diversity 179 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: and inclusivity and empowering uh young young children, especially girls, 180 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: but not just girls in that regard. It's it's really 181 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: appealing to audiences across the world and the opportunity was 182 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: to UH to attract UH a director, a writer and 183 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: director in in in Greta and no band back her 184 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: partner as a writer to create an experience that will 185 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: be UH not not obvious, not what you would expect, 186 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: but very impactful, very engaging, and and and will will 187 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: share her vision for Barbie with audiences all over the world. 188 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: M How how on the television side are you producing 189 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: shows that are aimed at you know, children, pre teens 190 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: or you going for more of an adult audience. The 191 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: primary audience, UM is our you know, our core consumer 192 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: primarily children from a tele television. But what we find 193 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: is that our brands and franchises appeal to audiences that 194 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: are also older. Given that our given that our brands 195 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: go back several generations UM, sorry up to three generations 196 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: several decades. Rather UM, we find that the appeal to 197 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: audiences of of all ages. A great example is Masses 198 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: of the Universe, which we we is now we have 199 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: two series on on Netflix. There's another movie that we 200 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: are about to start production on this summer in partnership 201 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: with Netflix. And this is a great example for UH, 202 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: one of one of our intellectual properties that we are 203 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: reimagining that we are bringing back after decades where it 204 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: has not been commercialized, and reimagining it for today's audience, 205 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: today's consumers. Uh, it would be forty years old this year. 206 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: Masters of the Universe will be four years old this year, 207 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: and yet it's appealing uh for children, you know, young 208 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: audiences who never knew that it existed before, as well 209 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: as to uh, all their demographics that that used to 210 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: be big fans back in the days have collect collectible 211 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: items somewhere in a desk store. Yes, you know. What 212 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: was it like as you started, as you embarked on 213 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: this strategy of really elevating your i P. What was 214 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the reception from Hollywood when you went to meet with 215 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: potential partners. Did they understand that this is a more 216 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: moment when you know I P with any kind of 217 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: established brand or built an audience is again the most 218 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: precious commodity. But did people understand what you were trying 219 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: to do or did it take a little bit of 220 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: explaining in education to get people to understand potential partners 221 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: to understand what you were trying to execute At Mattel Now, 222 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: we we were actually very pleasantly surprised by the response 223 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: and reaction. UM. You know, Robbie Branner has excellent relationship 224 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: within the creative community. I have my relationship. Cia played 225 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: the cue role also in making introductions and be living 226 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: in the opportunity as our agent on the film side. 227 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: And and together we very quickly engage with you know, 228 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: uh some of the best filmmakers UM in town and 229 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of rest out of almost out of 230 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the gate. Margot Robbie joined the Barbie project early on, 231 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: very early. Uh. Tom Hanks UM, Kiva Goldsman were very 232 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: interested in Major Matt Mason, we uh partner with with 233 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: just you know, some of the best creators almost you know, 234 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: almost from the beginning, whether you know, think of Pete 235 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: Farley for Wish Boat, or Daniel Kolua for Barney, Mark 236 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: Forrester for Thomas Thomas and Friends, UM, Lena Denham and 237 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Lily Collins for Polly Pocket, Ben Diesel for you know 238 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Rock and Sock and Roberts so um, just to name 239 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: a few. Uh. You get a feel for the type 240 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: of caliber, the caliber in the type of talent we attracted. 241 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: All the major studios were also interested in in and 242 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: of course when you when you bring forward uh, this 243 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: incredible treasure trove of franchises and intellectual property. It is unique. 244 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean what is more unique is that you can 245 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: ask is how Commatal never did it before, because the 246 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: franchises and brands have always been there. And the answer 247 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: is that the approach back in the day was to 248 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: focus more about focus more on the toy side of 249 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: the company. We were thinking more as a toy company. 250 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: And as soon as we made the shift to thinking 251 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: of ourselves as an I P company, all these opportunities 252 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: open up and became very obvious. And today we have 253 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: fourteen movies in development. Uh, there are more U in 254 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: motion you know that we are working on. We will 255 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: have this year thirteen shows or series and special television 256 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: special you know, series and specials on air so to speak, 257 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: some in streaming someone on broadcast television. With twenty in 258 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: production and over twenty five development, we are not just 259 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: looking to do that with the big brands that everybody knows. 260 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: We're also bringing looking at some of the catalog and 261 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: and and are really identifying opportunities to reimagine some of 262 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: these brands UH into into film and television. Some of 263 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: those I used to be very successful and we are 264 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: reviving them such as Monster High, which is a great franchise, 265 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: UM that potentially it can be even more relevant today 266 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: than it was when it launched back in the day 267 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: ten years ago, about which is very much about the 268 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: diversity and inclusivity. And and we see that across the board. 269 00:18:53,760 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: How our portfolio and into intellectual property a really residinating 270 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: with the creative talent for both film and television UM 271 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: in a very exciting way. So it's it's UM. It's 272 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: great to see and it's a very exciting part of 273 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: the journey. Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back 274 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: with more from Mattel's CEO in On Cries. And we're 275 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: back with more about the booming business of toys and 276 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: content from Mattel's CEO Inn Cries. As you opened up 277 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: the vault and showed people you know what you had, 278 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that you were probably approached by 279 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: let's do an overall deal or a first look deal 280 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: to have some kind of like you know, overarching partnership 281 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: with the studio or major platform. Did you did you 282 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: think about that going that route or do you prefer 283 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: to be able to be a free agent? Yeah, in 284 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: order to UH do what we do at scale, and 285 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: to be able to do it in a way that 286 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: that moves fast. We decided to be flexible and pick 287 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: the right partner per project, UM, per genre, and we're 288 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: different studios specialized in different opportunities, be able to really 289 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: partner with with with different players. That gives us the 290 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: ability not just to partner with the right UH studio, 291 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: but also to do things faster, not be UH constrained 292 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: or restricted by one studio's release schedule, which inevitably would 293 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: mean you are you'd be lucky to launch a movie 294 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: every two years or so. In the way we do it. 295 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: With having multiple projects in development with multiple studios, you 296 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: can do that, you can have more projects coming out 297 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: UM concurrently do that at scale where projects are not 298 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: in a related they all around their own course with 299 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: their own creative partners, and gives us a lot more 300 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: flexibility and the opportunity to do it faster and at 301 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: scale with a high likelihood of success. And the way 302 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: we do it, we you know, in partnering with the 303 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: best the best creative talent per project, we are increasing 304 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: the likelihood of success UM in a meaningfully but not 305 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: concentrating all of these different projects in one place. We 306 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: are we believe we were dramatically increase the likelihood of 307 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: success per individual project. And and of course the momentum 308 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: is building and we're able to attract better, stronger, UH 309 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: talent all the time. But we're very proud and happy 310 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: with the momentum we have so far. Again, sounds like 311 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: experience born of your of your earlier experience in media 312 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: and entertainment. Have you articulated any kind of revenue or 313 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: earnings target for your Metel Films and Television division, since 314 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's such a it's a really significant 315 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: component of your of your strategy. We haven't articulated yet 316 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: the potential um. This is still in motion and and 317 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: we have been we have been focused on the toy 318 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: side where we're being very clear about our goals there. 319 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: In terms of potential growth on the I P side, 320 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: this um has not yet defined. But clearly we can 321 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: imagine if you take if you look at the analogy 322 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: that I mentioned earlier with Marvel or other companies that 323 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: do exactly uh some you know doing what we're doing 324 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: or have done this before, you can see what happens 325 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: in the event of success. You know, The beauty of 326 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: our strategy is that it's not new. You know, we're 327 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: not inventing the wheel to uh, to bring great franchises 328 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: great I p uh and into the into filming television 329 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: is not our invention. Uh. And and of course we 330 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: all know that when it works, uh, it can be 331 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: very meaningful. Uh even uh you know, our own competitors 332 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: did that very well. Uh. Lego made the movie very 333 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: successful movie out of bricks, um, you know, without characters, 334 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: and that did that really well. So what we are 335 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: doing is not not a new invention. It is all 336 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: about execution and all about working with the right people, 337 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: the right talent and and trust that they will be 338 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: able to um to deliver a great product to to 339 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: two consumers out there. You know it is fascinating and 340 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: and and that that there's there's a fast and furious 341 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: pen in in production. And Hot Wheels is at zero. 342 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: Hot Wheels is the number one vehicle vehicle uh product 343 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: toy the world has been around for more than fifty years, 344 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: yet you've never made even I had those little plastic 345 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: tracks when I was a kid, and I had those 346 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: little slot cars. Of course, you know, Hot White has 347 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: just had its fourth record year in a row, you know, 348 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: and we've been breaking our own record now for four 349 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: years in a row. What's driving that? Forgive the pun, 350 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: but what is what is fueling that growth? It's it's 351 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: just been really incredible work by our team to make 352 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: Hot Wheels more relevant, more culturally relevant than ever, uh 353 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: and having a clear brand purpose around around igniting the 354 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: challenge of spirit in every in every child, and Hot 355 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: Wheels is now resonating, you know, really strongly with consumers. 356 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: And yet this franchise did all of that with know 357 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: movie with no real content. So just imagine what happens 358 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: when we bring it to the market with such you know, 359 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: such such a large built in fan base that that 360 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: would do anything to do with we'd want anything to 361 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: do with with with with Hot Wheels if you create 362 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: an exciting movie for that for that audience. Now that 363 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: you're at Mattel, how do you how does the company 364 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: make sure that you're spending all of your paid media wisely? 365 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: How do you look at it now that you're now 366 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: that you're on the other side of that table. Yes, 367 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: we we we have been very deliberate in the way 368 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: we are. We we attract, appeal and engage consumers the 369 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: company involved the very meaningfully in the last few years. 370 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Obviously social uh is a key part of what what 371 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: we do and how we engage consumers, especially given the 372 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: target demographic. But the way the way we do it 373 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: is we we've been very uh uh current in how 374 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: we reach consumers. We have been you know, we spend 375 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: obviously a significant amount of money on demand creation, but 376 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: also what what makes our situation very unique is that 377 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: our brands are so strong and so known that they 378 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: have their own following and their own inertia of of 379 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: consumer demand and in very high awareness. And because of 380 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: that we are able to attract people not just for 381 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: our content offering, but likewise for our director consumer offering, 382 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: which typically will need to spend a significant amount of 383 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: money to create awareness and demand. And here you have 384 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: a situation where people actually looking to find product and 385 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: searching for ways to engage with our brands. So uh, 386 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: the strength of this franchise is is a real asset 387 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: and and what you need to do as as the 388 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: owner as a proprietor is keep those franchises fresh, current, 389 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: culturally relevant and in today's world have a very clear purpose. 390 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: Because the way we think of what we do, especially 391 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: given the fact that we sell products for children, is 392 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: that we take our role um as a corporate citizen 393 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: very seriously and and always look to do the right thing. Uh. 394 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: We aim to contribute to a future uh that is 395 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: more diverse, UH, that is more equitable, um, that that 396 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: is more inclusive and of course sustainable. So these are 397 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: these are aspirations that are part of our purpose and 398 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: when we make product, when we sell product, we always 399 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: have that in sind and in today's world, this authenticity. 400 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: This is a clear purpose which for the company is 401 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: to empower the next generation to explore the wonder of 402 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: childhood and reach the full potential. UM. When we create product, 403 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: it's designed to uh to to uh entertain, develop and 404 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: inspire children through play. All of this is designed, uh 405 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know, in a very deliberate way to 406 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: create a real purpose and really a reason why why why? Parents? 407 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: Why families? Well children will buy and engage with our product. 408 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: Given all the circumstances of this past year, did you 409 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: feel that supply chain tinch Would you have gotten more 410 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: product on shelves in the fourth quarter if were it 411 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: not for other global issues or were you okay, now 412 00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: we were impacted. We were impacted. There was some manufacturing 413 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: closure that impacted the hot wheels, for example in the 414 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. UH there were UH there was some little 415 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: closure primarily in Asia Asia Pacific that impacted fisher price. 416 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: But on the whole, we still managed to work through 417 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: these issues and ended up the year with the highest 418 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: growth rate the company had in decades. In spite of 419 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: these supply chain issues. And so we were impacted, but 420 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: still managed to navigate our way and and and and 421 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: achieve and achieve such a stronger year for a tail 422 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: as I said, you know, highest growth rate in decades 423 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: with being the achieving six consecutive quarters of growth and 424 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: and continue to grow our market here for the second 425 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: consecutive year. So it's been a pretty comprehensive year in 426 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: spite of supply chain and by the way, inflation as 427 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: well that had its own impact. How do you control 428 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: your cost and how do you manage through those issues? 429 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: But on the whole, it was a very successful year 430 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: for matail UM And you know, when we when we've 431 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: achieved those those results UM following UH several years of 432 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: restructuring and UH and transformation, we believe the way we 433 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: see it, we have completed our ten around and and 434 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: now in in growth mode and see our product resonating 435 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: with consumers at level that the company has not seen 436 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: in years. Is it akin to like is it akin 437 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: when you launch a new product, a high profile view 438 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: product that you've put a lot of money and muscle behind. 439 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: Is it akin to having a movie open or a 440 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: TV show launch? Do you sit there biting your nails 441 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: waiting for those first retail you know, reports to come back. Yes, 442 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a long time. We do do 443 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot of research. We have experts in the company, 444 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: the best people in the industry that really understand how 445 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: to engage, how to create product that that will resonate 446 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: and uh and and and do what it's supposed to do. 447 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: But the this is really what this is our expertise. 448 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: This is this is the confetence we have in our capabilities. 449 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: You you don't always know, and you can't really tell 450 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: until the project launches, But by the time it hits 451 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: the shelves, we have a pretty good feeling how this 452 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: will work. Now, you know, we we are sell products 453 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: in more than approximately four hundred and ninety thousand stores. 454 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: Uh so think about the supply chain system that ends up, 455 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, putting products on shelves across so many stores. 456 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: And separately, we're also about over thirty percent of our 457 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: businesses online retail and e commerce, which is you know, 458 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: another completely different sales channel. But we have to service 459 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: and cater and collaborate with our customers without with the retailers. 460 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: And when you make decisions for manufacturing, you need to 461 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: have a pretty good view and be able to focus 462 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: demand to manufacture, to produce, to deliver the right amount 463 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: of product um uh. And so there's a lot of 464 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: expertise and and and and capabilities that go into that, 465 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: into that work and into that process to make the 466 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: right decisions. You know. Thank you so much for talking 467 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: us through. As always, I always find it fascinating to 468 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: learn a little bit about a business that is just 469 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: a little apart from media. My last question for you is, 470 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: tell me how did you what? What was the path, 471 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: what what sparked your interest in working in media and 472 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: television early on that led you to your to the 473 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: various steps of your career and now to Mattel. I 474 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: love pop culture. M I enjoy connecting UH with consumers 475 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: through content through media h throughout my career. I've always 476 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: worked in UM in the creative organizations that with core 477 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: intellectual property assets UM and was able to work with 478 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: creative people with creative talent and finding ways to reposition 479 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: those companies and uh and and and and create new 480 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: commercial models, new commercial opportunities to uh drive growth and 481 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: do exciting things on the business side. So it's really 482 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: a combination to a combination of creative work, working with 483 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: creative talent and but do it in a commercially viable 484 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: way that builds exciting businesses and and uh you know, 485 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: this is would've done with Fox Kids, which I co 486 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: founded with Jaim Saban, who himself you know, is a 487 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: visionary and was a great partner with in them all, 488 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: with the Maker Studios, which was also a pioneer in 489 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: in the short form online video industry, and of course 490 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: with Mattel, which is uh, you know, an incredible company, 491 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: incredible platform, owner of one of the most exciting portfolio 492 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: of intellectual property for children and family, and an exciting 493 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to not just be successful in a high performing 494 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: toy company, but also rich and engage consumers in many 495 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: other ways in other forms of content and entertainment. To 496 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: UM impact children, families, and continue to strive to achieve 497 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: our purpose. Thanks for listening. Be sure to leave us 498 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: a review at Apple Podcasts. We love to hear from listeners, 499 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: and please go to Variety dot com and click on 500 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: Newsletters to subscribe to our free, strictly business newsletter