WEBVTT - “I’ll Take That!”: The Diamond Doris Payne Story 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:05.440 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. Hello Elizabeth Dutton, zaren. 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.760 I've been looking for you, have you? Yes, I'm elusive. 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.480 I know. I have a question. Do you know what's ridiculous? Yes? 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.560 I knew you'd know. I know. So we got a 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.400 message or a comment, apparently some messages that we can't 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.439 find from someone on Instagram. They showed me it was 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.920 my shooting Star zero three eight. That's the person. Yeah, 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.760 and she was very very excited about this, and I 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.080 guess she left us a message about a mashup that 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.400 was passed along to me. You and your army of 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.720 people sign have no idea. You have no idea of 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.240 my standing army of rude dudes to go out scouring 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.319 the world finding media. I was so happy in my 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.480 bliss of ignorance. But now you guys got to throw 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.600 these mashups at me. All right, what do you got 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.640 for me? What do you what mashup do you have? Well? 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:01.320 With its blend of twenty three flavors, doctor Pepper has 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.720 long been a secret ingredient among top barbecue pit masters. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.480 That actually is true. I know the twenty three original 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.360 flavors of doctor Pepper. Give this Batchett's name, and it's 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:15.720 amazing flavor, sweet and sassy success. It's the serious bean company, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.360 which I didn't know existed, makes Doctor Pepper sweet and 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.839 a bit sassy. Baked beans. Baked beans, yeah, doctor Pepper, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.399 baked doctor. I mean, I've had barbecue with Coca cola 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.759 and it cocacola, they say, And I've had it with 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.199 doctor Pepper. Oh yeah, And I bet you've had sprite cake. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.360 Oh yeah, seven up. And for sevenths did you know 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.800 where I was living in the rural South and South Carolina, 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.199 they had a recipe for peach enchiladas. Now I thought 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.600 it would be peaches wrapped in tortillas. No, No, it's 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.560 peaches laid down. And I think there's like some sort 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.360 of like biscuits, those biscuit tents. Oh yeah, but then 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:59.080 you pour mountain dew over it and bake it. Yeah, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.800 like how much? I don't know, I don't know. Yeah 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.640 it was. It was a gruesome mixture. It was like, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.000 imagine super sweet. But is it like crystalline? Like is 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:14.720 it like? Um, So, there are reviews for these, you know. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.000 It got some good reviews, some not so hot reviews. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.720 It made me think of a long time ago, I 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.040 mixed diet Doctor Pepper and Jack Daniels and it tasted 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.080 like sawdust. I don't know if that was a one off, 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.639 but I think it always does. So Yeah. Some of 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.080 the people thought this stuff was too sweet. Doctor Pepper 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.280 baked beans were a little too sweet for my taste, 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.840 said Red Sox twenty six. Flavors didn't seem cohesive seven 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.680 months ago. I would trust a Red Sox fan on 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:48.200 baked beans. Very true. Seven months ago Anderson said, very 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.760 interesting taste. I would have never thought of Doctor Pepper 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.240 and beans. And then a Spittle three. A Spittle three 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.880 said not a can of soda. These beans are really good. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.200 They do not taste much like the soda at although 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.800 that's not a bad thing. This flavor is sweet, not salty, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.720 but still very savory. I prefer a good black pepper kick, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.200 so I just added some after a few bites. Personally, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.280 I think that's all these beans are missing to be great. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.639 I love all these foodies leaving reviews on the Doctor 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.160 Pepper Baked Beans is like a website or whatever. This 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.720 is a serious bean company website. Trying some Himalayan salt. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.919 I find it really brings out the beans. I'm very 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.960 particular though. If I'm going to make something like this, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.520 I'd want to add my own huh. I don't know, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.280 not that there's food like I can brew my own 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.480 doctor pepper. Oh geez, then grow the beans. I like 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:44.040 to control the ingredients. I like to know you. Well, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.720 he got a second. I got a story for you. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.080 That's really ridiculous. I'm just sitting here eating a canna 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.600 be no cold too. I think that's so good. Well, 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.880 you know, I got a clean spoon. If you want, please, okay, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.200 thank you one second. But in the meantime, how about 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.640 a story? Yes, please, Okay. This is the story of 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.040 a woman who was a white collar criminal. Okay, kind 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.200 of buy that? I mean she well, you know I 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.760 always say, if you're gonna steal, steal big yeah. Okay, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.680 well she listened. Well, she actually preceded me all but well. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.840 Over her career. She's still somewhere in the neighborhood of 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.240 three million dollars in jewelry. Oh yeah, She's known as 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:23.039 America's greatest living jewel thief. Her crime career lasted seventy years. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.560 She kept a fistful of fake passports she had at 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.760 least nine identities eleven different social Security numbers. Her FBI 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:35.000 file is reported to be six feet long. What. Yes, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.880 she also has an intropol file and a Scotland yardfile 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.200 because she international like that. Oh my gosh, I'm still 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.719 stuck on six feet of paper, I know, right, Yeah, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.320 that's what that's like, you know, Congress printing styles anyway, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:52.760 international jewel thief without equal. Her name is Diamond Doris pain. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:05:16.160 What a great name. This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:21.320 about absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:26.160 ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.600 Elizabeth Sarah, I bring to you today story. And this 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.479 story begins in the tiny forgotten hamlet of slab Fork, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:40.839 West Virginia. Slab FORKHA population two hundred. Yeah. Have you 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.360 ever been to a slab Fork? No, I can't say 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.839 I've graced their travels, have never taken you there. Well, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.839 if you had been there, you would have learned that 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.320 it is the hometown of our anti hero of today, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.000 Diamond Doris Paine. She was born in slab Fork, West Virginia, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:00.000 in October tenth, nineteen thirty. Surprisingly, despite its tiny side. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.640 Old Diamond Doris is not the most famous person from 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.200 slab Fork, West Virginia. Really, you'd care to take a 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.800 guess at who might also be a famous slab for 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.800 son or daughter of slab Pork make this into twenty questions, 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.640 but that would drag this out. Okay, I'll give you him. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.960 It's a singer, okay, and he sings songs that he 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.719 you know him, John Denver, No, good, guess Bill Withers. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.880 Oh wow. Bill Withers is apparently from this town. So 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.440 it's a tiny town in Raleigh County, right there along 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.719 Route fifty four. As if I know where that is. Now, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.400 what I do know is it's kind of place that 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.160 people like the locals struggle to escape, right And Diamond 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.240 Doris Pain, she was like, I'm not about this life, 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.240 because this is the kind of place currently has like 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.520 a median income about twenty percent below the US national average. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.400 Church's very West Virginia coal Mine County community. Yes, exactly, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.400 So little has changed since Diamond Doris Pain grew up 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.840 in slab Pork, Right, but she managed to get out, 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.120 and the way she managed to do this was a 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.920 life of crime. Nice, So she didn't choose crime though, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.800 because she felt like, Oh, I'm less stan and I 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.000 would just like to strike back at the world. Or 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.320 I'm some poor girl who needs to steal her way 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.720 out of slab fork, and I would just want to 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.160 grab finer things. No, none of that was her stuff, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.280 because luckily we have for us in our entertainment diamond 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.440 Doris Payne has written a memoir as well as in 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.160 the focus of a documentary. She's done numerous interviews. She 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.240 likes pressed, I like that she wrote a book. We 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.960 rely on that, Yes, exactly, so I got plenty of 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.400 things in her own words. So in the words of 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.680 Doris Payne, she said, I had all the things every 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.320 little girl had. I was not raised to believe anyone 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.680 was better than me because of skin color, or that 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.800 there was anything that I could not have. It turns 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.320 out what it was was she just really likes stealing diamonds. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.520 That was her emma, and as she grew up this 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.480 became more and more self evident. The more she was 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.760 around diamonds, the more she was like, Hey, you can't 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.320 keep these sticky paws off these things. So, like Lauretta Lynn, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.760 she was, I said, raised as a coal miner's daughter. Now, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.200 her father was a black man, David Payne. Her mother 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.320 was a Cherokee woman named Clemmy Paine. And while she 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.960 was still a little girl, Diamond Doris relocated with her 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.120 parents from West Virginia to neighboring Ohio. And she was 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.000 about a teen at this time. So when she gets 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.080 so higoh, she decides, I'm going to reinvent myself. Yeah right, So, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.440 being you know, a teenager, she turns to the imitation 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.280 of adults, right right, She's like, quote from a little girl, 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.040 I like to dress up. I had my purse in 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.600 my hat. I played a game by myself called Miss Lady, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.640 Miss Lady. Yes, so cute. But her Miss Lady was 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.720 based on careful study of the actress Vivian Ley, you know, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.880 Scarlett O'Hara and gone with the win. So she projects 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.760 onto her all of her dreams of adult femininity. And 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.959 so this is where she also first learned to carry 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.480 herself in a way that made nervous Jewel Story employees 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.960 relax her suspicions because she was Miss Lady. I next 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.160 time I have to like get dressed and go out somewhere, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.760 I'm going to call myself. Miss I'm going to do, 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:58.679 Miss lady. You're look in the mirror. You're looking good, 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.199 miss lady. Exactly. Now her crime career, it starts informally. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.280 She pulls off her first job when she was just 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.600 thirteen years old. Thirteen. It wasn't a diamond though when 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.199 she started thirteen, So her mother made her promise, you know, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.360 she'd get her a new watches. She got good grades, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.800 which Doris did. She was good to her word, and 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.800 her mother took her to her jewelry store because she 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.439 was also good to her word, and she said, let's 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.880 go pick you out a watch. So they get there 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.000 and remember this is you know, basically parts of Ohio 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.040 and parts of Indiana are a lot like the south, right, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:27.960 the southern parts of those states in particular, if you're 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.920 outside of her major city, you're going to, especially at 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:35.439 this time, encounter a lot of racism essentially. So this 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.480 is what happens. Right, the store owner is waiting on 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.880 her and her mother, and they're surprised because the store 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.080 owner is friendly, he is attentive, He shows them numerous watches. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:45.960 This is not at all with the expective when they 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.720 went into the store. Right, a second customer comes into 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.959 the store, a white man, and all of a sudden, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.280 the store owner he leaves a mother and the daughter 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.640 to go wait on this white man. Right, but first 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.360 he had to make it clear to them that he 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.240 is not cool with black people. He had made it 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.120 clear to the new cus right, so he ordered Doris 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.400 and her mother to leave the store right now. This 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.120 is his big mistake because he has forgotten that Doris 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.439 has tried on a watch, so his racism makes him stupid, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.040 and he then just sends her out of the store 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.079 to cost him. Because Doris and her mother do as instructed, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.040 they leave the store and down the block, Doris notices 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.800 that she still has the watch on. She did not 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.960 intentionally walk out of the store with the watch, and 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.920 her mother didn't think she'd watch. She still had the 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.200 watch on. It's just a harmless mistake. So she stops. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.360 And Doris is about to go back to the store 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:29.920 and return the watch and do the good thing, and 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.000 all of a sudden, she's like, you know what to 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.760 hell with that racist? Yeah no, it's the racism text. Yeah. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.640 He's like, you told me to get out. I listened 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.760 to you, So if your dumb head wants me out 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.080 of your store for your reasons. Well, your biggot's gonna 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.160 cost you. And so she let him, and she decides 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.760 to keep the watch. And Diamond Doris put it, it 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.760 was punishment. In the back of my head, I was saying, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.760 take that. So this little girl realizes that crime can 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.480 be a way for her to balance the scales of 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.000 injustice in her society. Well, and the guy, he was 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.599 gonna make money on them, and they came in to 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.440 purchase and they were doing all this stuff that you 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:03.199 want people to ye, parents, rewarding children for achievement, all 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.200 the stuff. And then they're like, oh, I gotta show 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:06.920 out for this other guy. So I need to get 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.000 out here. What a small, pitiful life that I had exactly, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.520 but you know whatever, pity the man. So but anyway, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.480 Diamond Doris pay. Yeah, she learns a vital lesson, one 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.240 that would stay with her for the rest of her days. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.720 And the lesson was this, Elizabeth, if she wanted to 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.360 walk out with an expensive item, all she apparently needed 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.560 was a distraction. Yeah, right, So this is when she 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.960 begins to practice her life, her future life as a 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.920 master criminal. So, at age sixteen, she and her girlfriend 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.480 would go and they'd hop on a bus and they'd 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.760 take the three hour trip over to the big city 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.040 of Cleveland, and then they would go down to the 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.400 jewelry stores and they'd pull off the old five finger 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.520 discount like at a place like wool Worse, and then 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.760 you know, then they would get back on the bus. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.960 And now this isn't Doris's words. She was basically talking 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.000 about how these other folks on the bus would see 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.200 her and her girlfriend. She said, quote some black woman 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.960 who rode in the back of the bus like ever, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.280 they are other black Cleveland woman headed to her subservient job. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.400 So she knows people are looking past her, right, Yeah, 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.360 but this is not at all how she sees herself, 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.880 all right, she said, quote on weekend, I was Doris Paine, 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.680 jewel thief in training. So everyone else's a subservient black 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.280 woman in the back of the bus. She's like, I 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.760 am a cat criminal. Do not know? Now? Sixteen year 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.960 old Doris pain She and her girlfriend, as I told you, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.480 they've been taking their trips to practice stealing watches from Woolworth. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.959 She eventually gets good at this. She graduates from high 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.400 school without getting caught as a young thief. She starts 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.320 to life as a nurse in a nursing home where 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.040 she you know, she's wanted to get out of her house. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.520 So she gets a job. So things are going well. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.360 Her father was an abusive drunk, so he basically pushed 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.160 her out and decided, you know, I just need to 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.160 get some stable job, right. So while she's doing this, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.080 she's also worried back leaving her mother behind with this 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.960 man who's violent. So she plans, and you know, if 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.440 I'm gonna make a life for myself, I need to 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.280 square away moms before I bounce. Yeah. Yeah. So while 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.200 she's working at the nursing home in Cleveland, she would 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.120 then travel to Pittsburgh. You know neighboring Pittsburgh, do you 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.920 know the western Pennsylvania Ohio border. And she go over 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:56.920 to Pittsburgh on her days off, and there she started 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.520 pulling off her first jobs, like her first real job. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.080 Smart to go out of town, oh definitely, right. Yeah. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.600 So she used to call them campaigns, So she's like, campaign, Yeah, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.920 I'm gonna go on a campaign to Pittsburgh. So she 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.600 she'd go on a campaign for the weekend and Doris 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.360 would walk into a jewelry store and then walk out 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.360 with like, for instance, of the first time, a twenty 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:17.120 two thousand dollar diamond ring. What and that's in that 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.040 day's dollars or today, Shazam, that's a lot of money. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.959 He's like her biggest score to date, right, even today, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.120 that's a lot of money. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly, it's 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.240 it's a sizeable chunk chaine, especially for like a young woman. Right. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.240 So she she's terrified she's gonna get caught. She's actually 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.880 pulled off like what she's practiced at Woolworth, right, And 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.360 she's convinced someone's following her from the jewelry store. So 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:37.719 she doesn't know what to do. She doesn't know where 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.640 to hide out. She's new to Pittsburgh, so she goes 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.439 to the Greyhound bus terminal. Yeah, and she hides out 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.840 in the woman's bathroom in a stall, and she spends 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.560 the entire night there. She's like, quote, I fell asleep 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.400 with the stolen ring pinching my left breast. Can you 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.760 think of a worse place than a greyhound bus station 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:58.000 bathroom stall to spend the night? Oh? No. So she 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.280 wakes up after her night in the Greyhound bathrooms and 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.679 she's all ready to return the stolen rings. She's had 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.160 time to think about it. She's like, well, was I thinking. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:05.640 I can't believe I'm trying to get away with this? 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.880 And then she she's headed back to the store, just 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.400 like with the watch. She's like, I'm gonna go be 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.520 the you know, good girl that I know I am. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.440 Her guilt hounding her. But then while she's walking, her 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.000 resolve starts to soften, right, and then all of a 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.960 sudden it wilted, and then it disappeared entirely, all resolved gone. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.160 She spots a pawn shop and she's like, oh, she 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.320 changes her mind about returning the ring. She hits up 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.480 the pawn shop and she hawks the twenty two thousand 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.360 dollars ring for about a third of its value, walks 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.080 out with seven grand goes home and goes, mom, here's 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.720 a new light. Wow. So and she says, mom, get 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.960 a house, get away from dad, And her mother does 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.480 exactly that. She goes and gets herself a new house. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.440 She leaves her husband. We don't know what comes with 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.000 her father, but these two are now safe in the way, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.840 so crime has freed them, right, That's that was her 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.760 only option in order to get money like that time frame, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.840 do you want to make a big move like you 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.880 had to basically turn to crime. So she's like, look 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.280 before jay Z, I'm going to jay Z this moment. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.120 I have been dreams and I'm not going to let 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.720 my position in society squelch them, right right. So she's like, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:08.320 I'm about this life and she imagines as I'll backtrack 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.400 for a second. I told you that she was the 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.840 focus of a couple of documentaries. One was by Netflix, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.760 and the producer of that is a woman named Unetta Boone, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.680 and she was talking into the twenty thirteen film about 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.240 Diamond Doris Pain, explaining how she was at this time, 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.680 and she said, quote those things that can set in 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.680 the mind of a young girl. I'm never going to 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.320 be under the thumb of a man. I'm going to 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.360 be the judge of my own destiny. I really think 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.200 that alone drove Doris. I think that was the day 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.360 that empowered her, the day that she freed her mother. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.320 So crime empowers her. Not only does allow her to 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.520 escape these forced identities cast on her, but now also 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.440 she's able to do things for other people in her life. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.920 So she's like, this is I'm doing this, she's getting 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.000 a thrill from it. Of course there's that too. They're 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.800 a big part of why a person turns to crime 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.440 as it feels good. But she also is at this 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.560 point pretty much set in her life. She's like, you 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.360 know what, I am probably not going to couple off. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.400 I'm gonna be diamond Doris Pain soloing through the world. 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.600 In her words, she said that marriage quote ties you 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.960 to brutality. Oh wow, we had a dark view of marriage, right. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.200 But once she gets her mother free of her abusive father, 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.600 Doris makes her mother and offers. She's like, hey, you know, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.600 I'm gonna keep doing this. I'm really good at this. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.440 Do you want to be my fence? And her mom's like, oh, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.640 baby girl, UM, I love what you did for me. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.480 I love the new house. But no, but no, so 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.600 she's like, you know, I can't help you with that. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.480 She's like, are you sure because I'm moving hot rocks 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.120 here get kidions. She's like, no, I'm not down. Some 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.280 mother's like okay, fine, uh you know, baby girl, you 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.400 just do your thing and U I won't tell anyone. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.320 And she's like, okay, but occasionally if I send you 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.880 money that quote, of course that'll be cool. So she 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.200 accepted the pros take the cash. She doesn't want to 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.760 risk take in the heat exactly. But I wouldn't need it. Also, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.400 she doesn't. I don't think she trusts herself to go 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.200 in and be the fence, like, you know, going into 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.080 the like the like pawn shops, the Hawk jewelry or whatever. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.320 I don't think she'd much of herself, yeah, in that regard. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.240 So she's like, look, I'll take the four bedroom house 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.080 in Shaker Heights and we're cool. I I couldn't do 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.600 any of this. One time I was at a store 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.240 like a bit old navy, I admit it. And I 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.080 was like years and years ago, and I bought two 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.840 shirts and I walked out looking at the receipt and 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.560 I thought, man, that was cheap, and I realized they'd 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.240 only rung up one of them, and I had two 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.240 in the bag. And I went back and I said, 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.960 she didn't charge me for this other shirt, and the 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:16.600 lady looked at me and then she goes, just get 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:23.159 out of here. She's like, come on, I mean like 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.359 she rolled her eyes at me. How far did you 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.199 walk back from? Yeah? Basically, once or she has her 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.720 mother's squared away. Doris is now set for herself. She's like, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.320 I'm gonna go be Doris Criming on my own alone. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.680 And she said, and I quote, a woman practicing being 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.120 a world class jewel thief wasn't going to be home much. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.720 So she's just ready to hit this road. Yeah. Off 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.040 she goes, a black woman existing in a supremely limiting 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.719 time in her own way. She basically spreads her criminal 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.600 wings and just flutters away from Cleveland. Right. But she, 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.359 as I just pointed out, she decided to lean into crime. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.719 As Cheryl Sandberg might put in, right, this was like 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.000 her view of feminism as exactly. She was a girl 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.760 boss in the hat in the nineteen fifties. So her 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.480 modus operanda, in case you were curious, it's rather simple. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:06.960 I've kind of laid it out for you, which is 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.800 that she would pull the miss lady act. But there 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.800 was a lot more too. That she did what you 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.560 often tell us and remind me, which is to act 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.200 like you belong somewhere. Yes, she would go one step further. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.920 What she would dress like she belonged somewhere and act 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.520 that way. So she put on as much of the 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.080 compartment as she could, and then all the fineries. Right, 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.840 so she'd use her miss Lady routine and her Scarletto 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.560 hair inspired act, and then then she would go and 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.640 she'd hang out with these ladies of elegance and wealth 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.560 and she would watch them and she'd practice them, and 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.600 then she would imitate them when she goes swanning into 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.080 a jewelry store, and she tried to act like all 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.679 they did whenever they were looking at select pieces of jewelry. 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.040 The same hand gestures, the same lift of the wrist, 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.640 everything she did. She was basically an actress, right, So 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.560 a typical move would be for her to go into 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.240 a store and she would do all of this stuff. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:52.679 I just described the graceful, elegant movement, the lilting voice, 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.080 and then she would ask a try it on a 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.439 piece of jewelry. The employee would be like, you know, 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.439 sometimes suspicious whatever, but they would be like, you know, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.240 give her a ring to try, and then she would 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.960 accidentally lose that ring, you know, while she's talking to 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.040