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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. Hello Elizabeth Dutton, zaren.

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Speaker 1: I've been looking for you, have you? Yes, I'm elusive.

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Speaker 1: I know. I have a question. Do you know what's ridiculous? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I knew you'd know. I know. So we got a

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Speaker 1: message or a comment, apparently some messages that we can't

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Speaker 1: find from someone on Instagram. They showed me it was

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Speaker 1: my shooting Star zero three eight. That's the person. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and she was very very excited about this, and I

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Speaker 1: guess she left us a message about a mashup that

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Speaker 1: was passed along to me. You and your army of

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Speaker 1: people sign have no idea. You have no idea of

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Speaker 1: my standing army of rude dudes to go out scouring

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Speaker 1: the world finding media. I was so happy in my

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Speaker 1: bliss of ignorance. But now you guys got to throw

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Speaker 1: these mashups at me. All right, what do you got

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Speaker 1: for me? What do you what mashup do you have? Well?

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Speaker 1: With its blend of twenty three flavors, doctor Pepper has

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Speaker 1: long been a secret ingredient among top barbecue pit masters.

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Speaker 1: That actually is true. I know the twenty three original

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Speaker 1: flavors of doctor Pepper. Give this Batchett's name, and it's

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Speaker 1: amazing flavor, sweet and sassy success. It's the serious bean company,

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Speaker 1: which I didn't know existed, makes Doctor Pepper sweet and

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Speaker 1: a bit sassy. Baked beans. Baked beans, yeah, doctor Pepper,

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Speaker 1: baked doctor. I mean, I've had barbecue with Coca cola

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Speaker 1: and it cocacola, they say, And I've had it with

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Speaker 1: doctor Pepper. Oh yeah, And I bet you've had sprite cake.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, seven up. And for sevenths did you know

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Speaker 1: where I was living in the rural South and South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: they had a recipe for peach enchiladas. Now I thought

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Speaker 1: it would be peaches wrapped in tortillas. No, No, it's

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Speaker 1: peaches laid down. And I think there's like some sort

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Speaker 1: of like biscuits, those biscuit tents. Oh yeah, but then

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Speaker 1: you pour mountain dew over it and bake it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like how much? I don't know, I don't know. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a gruesome mixture. It was like,

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Speaker 1: imagine super sweet. But is it like crystalline? Like is

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Speaker 1: it like? Um, So, there are reviews for these, you know.

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Speaker 1: It got some good reviews, some not so hot reviews.

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Speaker 1: It made me think of a long time ago, I

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Speaker 1: mixed diet Doctor Pepper and Jack Daniels and it tasted

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Speaker 1: like sawdust. I don't know if that was a one off,

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Speaker 1: but I think it always does. So Yeah. Some of

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Speaker 1: the people thought this stuff was too sweet. Doctor Pepper

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Speaker 1: baked beans were a little too sweet for my taste,

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Speaker 1: said Red Sox twenty six. Flavors didn't seem cohesive seven

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Speaker 1: months ago. I would trust a Red Sox fan on

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Speaker 1: baked beans. Very true. Seven months ago Anderson said, very

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Speaker 1: interesting taste. I would have never thought of Doctor Pepper

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Speaker 1: and beans. And then a Spittle three. A Spittle three

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Speaker 1: said not a can of soda. These beans are really good.

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Speaker 1: They do not taste much like the soda at although

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Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing. This flavor is sweet, not salty,

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Speaker 1: but still very savory. I prefer a good black pepper kick,

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Speaker 1: so I just added some after a few bites. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I think that's all these beans are missing to be great.

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Speaker 1: I love all these foodies leaving reviews on the Doctor

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Speaker 1: Pepper Baked Beans is like a website or whatever. This

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Speaker 1: is a serious bean company website. Trying some Himalayan salt.

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Speaker 1: I find it really brings out the beans. I'm very

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Speaker 1: particular though. If I'm going to make something like this,

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Speaker 1: I'd want to add my own huh. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: not that there's food like I can brew my own

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Speaker 1: doctor pepper. Oh geez, then grow the beans. I like

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Speaker 1: to control the ingredients. I like to know you. Well,

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Speaker 1: he got a second. I got a story for you.

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Speaker 1: That's really ridiculous. I'm just sitting here eating a canna

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Speaker 1: be no cold too. I think that's so good. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I got a clean spoon. If you want, please, okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you one second. But in the meantime, how about

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Speaker 1: a story? Yes, please, Okay. This is the story of

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Speaker 1: a woman who was a white collar criminal. Okay, kind

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Speaker 1: of buy that? I mean she well, you know I

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Speaker 1: always say, if you're gonna steal, steal big yeah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well she listened. Well, she actually preceded me all but well.

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Speaker 1: Over her career. She's still somewhere in the neighborhood of

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Speaker 1: three million dollars in jewelry. Oh yeah, She's known as

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Speaker 1: America's greatest living jewel thief. Her crime career lasted seventy years.

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Speaker 1: She kept a fistful of fake passports she had at

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Speaker 1: least nine identities eleven different social Security numbers. Her FBI

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Speaker 1: file is reported to be six feet long. What. Yes,

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Speaker 1: she also has an intropol file and a Scotland yardfile

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Speaker 1: because she international like that. Oh my gosh, I'm still

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Speaker 1: stuck on six feet of paper, I know, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what that's like, you know, Congress printing styles anyway,

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Speaker 1: international jewel thief without equal. Her name is Diamond Doris pain.

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Speaker 1: What a great name. This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast

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Speaker 1: about absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always

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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Sarah, I bring to you today story. And this

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Speaker 1: story begins in the tiny forgotten hamlet of slab Fork,

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. Slab FORKHA population two hundred. Yeah. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever been to a slab Fork? No, I can't say

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Speaker 1: I've graced their travels, have never taken you there. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you had been there, you would have learned that

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Speaker 1: it is the hometown of our anti hero of today,

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Speaker 1: Diamond Doris Paine. She was born in slab Fork, West Virginia,

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Speaker 1: in October tenth, nineteen thirty. Surprisingly, despite its tiny side.

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Speaker 1: Old Diamond Doris is not the most famous person from

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Speaker 1: slab Fork, West Virginia. Really, you'd care to take a

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Speaker 1: guess at who might also be a famous slab for

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Speaker 1: son or daughter of slab Pork make this into twenty questions,

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Speaker 1: but that would drag this out. Okay, I'll give you him.

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Speaker 1: It's a singer, okay, and he sings songs that he

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Speaker 1: you know him, John Denver, No, good, guess Bill Withers.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Bill Withers is apparently from this town. So

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Speaker 1: it's a tiny town in Raleigh County, right there along

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Speaker 1: Route fifty four. As if I know where that is. Now,

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Speaker 1: what I do know is it's kind of place that

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Speaker 1: people like the locals struggle to escape, right And Diamond

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Speaker 1: Doris Pain, she was like, I'm not about this life,

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Speaker 1: because this is the kind of place currently has like

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Speaker 1: a median income about twenty percent below the US national average.

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Speaker 1: Church's very West Virginia coal Mine County community. Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: So little has changed since Diamond Doris Pain grew up

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Speaker 1: in slab Pork, Right, but she managed to get out,

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Speaker 1: and the way she managed to do this was a

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Speaker 1: life of crime. Nice, So she didn't choose crime though,

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Speaker 1: because she felt like, Oh, I'm less stan and I

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Speaker 1: would just like to strike back at the world. Or

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Speaker 1: I'm some poor girl who needs to steal her way

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Speaker 1: out of slab fork, and I would just want to

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Speaker 1: grab finer things. No, none of that was her stuff,

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Speaker 1: because luckily we have for us in our entertainment diamond

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Speaker 1: Doris Payne has written a memoir as well as in

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Speaker 1: the focus of a documentary. She's done numerous interviews. She

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Speaker 1: likes pressed, I like that she wrote a book. We

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Speaker 1: rely on that, Yes, exactly, so I got plenty of

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Speaker 1: things in her own words. So in the words of

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Speaker 1: Doris Payne, she said, I had all the things every

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Speaker 1: there was anything that I could not have. It turns

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Speaker 1: out what it was was she just really likes stealing diamonds.

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Speaker 1: That was her emma, and as she grew up this

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Speaker 1: became more and more self evident. The more she was

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Speaker 1: keep these sticky paws off these things. So, like Lauretta Lynn,

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Speaker 1: she was, I said, raised as a coal miner's daughter. Now,

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Speaker 1: her father was a black man, David Payne. Her mother

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Speaker 1: was a Cherokee woman named Clemmy Paine. And while she

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Speaker 1: was still a little girl, Diamond Doris relocated with her

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Speaker 1: so higoh, she decides, I'm going to reinvent myself. Yeah right, So,

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Speaker 1: I like to dress up. I had my purse in

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Speaker 1: my hat. I played a game by myself called Miss Lady,

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Speaker 1: Miss Lady. Yes, so cute. But her Miss Lady was

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Speaker 1: based on careful study of the actress Vivian Ley, you know,

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Speaker 1: Scarlett O'Hara and gone with the win. So she projects

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Speaker 1: onto her all of her dreams of adult femininity. And

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Speaker 1: so this is where she also first learned to carry

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Speaker 1: herself in a way that made nervous Jewel Story employees

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Speaker 1: relax her suspicions because she was Miss Lady. I next

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Speaker 1: I'm going to call myself. Miss I'm going to do,

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Speaker 1: Miss lady. You're look in the mirror. You're looking good,

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Speaker 1: miss lady. Exactly. Now her crime career, it starts informally.

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Speaker 1: She pulls off her first job when she was just

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Speaker 1: thirteen years old. Thirteen. It wasn't a diamond though when

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Speaker 1: she started thirteen, So her mother made her promise, you know,

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Speaker 1: she'd get her a new watches. She got good grades,

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Speaker 1: which Doris did. She was good to her word, and

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Speaker 1: this time, encounter a lot of racism essentially. So this

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Speaker 1: is what happens. Right, the store owner is waiting on

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Speaker 1: to cost him. Because Doris and her mother do as instructed,

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Speaker 1: And Doris is about to go back to the store

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Speaker 1: hell with that racist? Yeah no, it's the racism text. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you told me to get out. I listened

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Speaker 1: to you, So if your dumb head wants me out

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Speaker 1: cost you. And so she let him, and she decides

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Speaker 1: to keep the watch. And Diamond Doris put it, it

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Speaker 1: was punishment. In the back of my head, I was saying,

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Speaker 1: injustice in her society. Well, and the guy, he was

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Speaker 1: gonna make money on them, and they came in to

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Speaker 1: the cluster and they were looking dead at me. I

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00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 1: told myself, I can't do this with five or six

423
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: people staring at me. So as luck favors the bold,

424
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: or you know, the Romans would say, Diamond Doris. She

425
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: gets lucky when the store managers shoot away the crowd

426
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: that has gathered in the store, and he embarrassedly explains

427
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 1: that Diamond Doris, it was simply a matter of her

428
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: looking so elegant, right, it's all these people staring at her.

429
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 1: You know. He's starting to downplay the racism of the moment.

430
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: And this is the moment when her childhood acting and

431
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: her original like criminal mo became one and the same.

432
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: She's like, well, I'm gonna dress like this from now

433
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: on because she got treated the way. She's like, oh,

434
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: it's the perfect cover, right, So let's take a short

435
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 1: break and I will get back to you with Diamond

436
00:20:35,720 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: Doris Payne takes Monte Carlo. Oh, yes, all right, Elizabeth, Hey, Darren,

437
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: he doing a b So Ever since Diamond Doris Payne's

438
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: mother turned it down to become her fence, she's been

439
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: working alone. She's like, where can I work alone in America?

440
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: As I told you it's the fifties, they're really sixties.

441
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: She's got problems with racism pretty much every turn, even

442
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: in the North. So she's like, I'm going over to

443
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: where all the jazz musicians have done really well for

444
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: the last thirty years. I'm going to Europe. Yea. Before

445
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: she goes to head off to Europe, she does have

446
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 1: this one criminal partner I'd like to tell you about

447
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 1: real quickly. You got a second. The dude's name was Babe.

448
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: He sticks out of memory. He was six foot two.

449
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: He was in the Israeli dude living in Cleveland, right,

450
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: and his government name was Harold Braunfeld, now Harold Braunfeld.

451
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: Babe was a certified criminal with all the ties you

452
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: would want to the underworld, like legit, right, so he

453
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: becomes like a paramore to Diamond Doris. And yeah, so

454
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: early on, she gets busted in a jewel heist or

455
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: is suspected and she gets arrested pop by the Cleveland police.

456
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: And then good old Babe Abe swans on in and

457
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: he has lawyers, the good kind, the expensive kind. He

458
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: gets his lawyers aimed at her case. He gets her

459
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: released on a guilty plea with no time served in jail.

460
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: No way, good lawyers, Yeah exactly, and all thanks to Babe. No.

461
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: Things were good for her and Babe for a good

462
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: long time. But unfortunately Babe was the sort of Underworld

463
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: character who felt the need to get cosmetic surgery to read.

464
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: He always to make his face look like totally different.

465
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm going to be a different babe. Okay.

466
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: He goes in there to get into his surgery. He

467
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: goes under the knife complication for surgery. He passes away.

468
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: See that's the risk. Yeah, okay, exactly so and he said, Babe,

469
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I just didn't battle do peg with

470
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: the band on the table. I was like, well, that's

471
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: what the that's what the doctor said when they put

472
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 1: the sheet over sheet, and everyone just like lowered their

473
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: heads and credits roll. So Diamond Norris Pain this is

474
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: what sends her on her own. This is like basically

475
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: the last time. She's like, oh, she did have another

476
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: woman who's a lady who ran a brothel in Cleveland,

477
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: who she also worked with for a while, and that

478
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: lady would give her tips about like where to run

479
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: her campaigns. So she would go off and she's like

480
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: she quote she says, quote she told me where to

481
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: go and give me names. I used to set up

482
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: shop and sell to Cleveland Indian baseball players. So the

483
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: old Cleveland Guardians to Cleveland Indians she settled to those

484
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: ball players, and this actually got her in trouble because,

485
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: like you know, she ended up like, well, I'll get

486
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: to that later. Just remind me Willie Mays. But let's

487
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: get on to Europe. Yes, So, Diamond Doris, she longed,

488
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: as they told you, for a bigger score. The racism

489
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: of America is holding her back. So she's like, I

490
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: want bride horizons. I want, you know, shores that are

491
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: more inviting to me. And so she goes, where's elegance

492
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: and opulence? Where can I take my show on the

493
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: road in Europe? That would really be, you know, something

494
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: befitting my talents. She remembers when she was a kid

495
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: back in slab Fork, West Virginia, reading all about the

496
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: marriage of Hollywood royalty Grace Kelly and Reiner. Right, and

497
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: this is like a big deal when she was a

498
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: little girl. So she's just stuck with her. She's like,

499
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: I'm going there, yeah, and it's funny. It's funny to

500
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: me at least once again. How often these criminals are

501
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: They model their reality on movies. Basically a Grace Kelly

502
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: scarletta hera. These are like her models for the life

503
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: she wants, right, Yeah, So she goes off to Monico,

504
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: but before she does that, she's like, you know, I

505
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: should probably brush up on my skills. I bet those

506
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: European jewel people they're probably top notch. They I don't

507
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: know all the stuff. So she goes to Manhattan and

508
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: she's like, I'll practice at Saxfith Avenue. I'll practice like

509
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: all the swanky spots. That makes sense. And so she

510
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: does this. She practices being moneyed, just being able to

511
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: convey this vibe. Right, So she said, quote, for three weeks,

512
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: I watched the women in Saxsmith Avenue like a hawk.

513
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: I read the New York Times every day, and I

514
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: studied Vogue to mimic the fashions and memorize the most

515
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: valuable jewels. So she gets her leg work. Yeah. The year,

516
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: by the way, is nineteen seventy four. This is after

517
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: a babe has passed away, and she's like, you know,

518
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: still kind of bouncing around the Pittsburgh Cleveland area. Now

519
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: she's in New York. She's about to go off to Europe.

520
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: But first I wanted to point out this is the

521
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: summer of nineteen seventy four. Do we know a little

522
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: bit about the summer of nineteen seventy four, not off

523
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: the top of my head. Well, there was this little

524
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: story that happened in the summer of nineteen seventy four.

525
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: The President of the United States, my man Richard Nixon,

526
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: which I say, my man, with my tongue so firmly

527
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: pressed in my cheek. I think I bruised myself. But

528
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: my man, Richard Nixon, you know what I mean. This

529
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: is when he decided to, you know, basically quiet quit

530
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: the White House. And it was right, I'm out pieces,

531
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm retiring from the game, right, Diamond Doors, Pain's like

532
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm going deep in the game. So they cross pass

533
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: like he's leaving powers, actually cross paths. It was just

534
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: the kind of a thing because you know, I just

535
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: wanted to place this in time. It is. It's an

536
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: interesting So that faithful summer of seventy four, Diamond Doors

537
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: Paint hops her bag or Paxster bags rather, and hops

538
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: on a flight to Nice, France. We visited before in

539
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: these stories. It's a good place for criminals to go

540
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of dumb and wealthy people there. Correct,

541
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: So she wins her way down to Monte Carlo, and

542
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: I'll just let her set the stage you're reading quote.

543
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: It was so gorgeous to drive through the spaces of

544
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: wide open skies above valleys, rows of hills, and evergreen

545
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: trees like back home in West Virginia. For the short

546
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: thirty minute ride, experience mountains that descended to the sea.

547
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: As we entered Montico, there were yachts with their masts

548
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: sticking up like pins out of one of Mom's pincushions.

549
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: To my left, the high cliffs of Chucky Limestone looked

550
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 1: no different from the limestone cliffs and mountain passes of

551
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: West Virginia. I thought, child, you would come a long

552
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: way from taking the bus to Pittsburgh. We drove through

553
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: a small tunnel and there it was the wealth of

554
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: terra cotta tile roofs piled on the hillside right down

555
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: to the Mediterranean Sea. So from West Virginia Monte Carlo. Wow,

556
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: what a moment for her, right, Yeah, I just loved that. Anyway,

557
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: So to anyone who asked, you would explain her presence

558
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: of Monte Carlo by telling them, well what I would

559
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: call a believable lie. Okay, she would tell folks that

560
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: she was the wife of the film director Auto Premager. Yes, okay. Now,

561
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, Ottoremager was a big filmmaker

562
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: back in the day, and he was married to the

563
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: actress Dorothy Dandridge, a black woman. Because he's a European filmmaker,

564
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: he didn't give two feathers or a fig what Americans thought,

565
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: so he did it now. Perhaps Diamond Doris was thinking,

566
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: maybe people don't know what Dorothy Dandridge looks like in

567
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four. But I don't know, but the lie

568
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: work exceedingly well. Maybe she thought, you know, Auto Premature

569
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: has a taste, a type, a style of woman who

570
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: goes for anyway. She's there it's work and the lies

571
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: given her like a believable reason to be there. Time

572
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: to shop. So she gets a driver. She says, please

573
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: take me to the most exclusive shopping district, which is

574
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: this place called Place du Casino. So she goes to

575
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: Place du Casino. The street signs are all in French. Elizabeth, Yeah,

576
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: she doesn't read French, so she has no idea what

577
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: she's doing. She's like, Okay, I've got to trust this guy.

578
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: So Diamond Doris She's like, oh wait, I forgot Catholicism.

579
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: This will once again come to my rescue. Howe, and

580
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I quote, I knew just enough French to get by.

581
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: Mom had been raised Catholic without a place to worship

582
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: and slab fork. She had recited the priest part and

583
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: the congregation is part of the Catholic Mass while doing

584
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: the dishes. WHOA, those Latin roots have given me just enough. Yeah,

585
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: and that's pre Vaticantus exactly talking. She's speaking in Latin

586
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: while she's doing a high Mass while doing dishes. It's

587
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: her own high Mass, both as congregation and priest. Wow,

588
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: you can see the diamond doors. Pain comes from a

589
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: line of creative people. Yeah. Now, honestly, I've done the

590
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: exact same thing bouncing around Europe because you'll see the

591
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: signs and we'll be written in three four languages. And

592
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: so that's like how I learn other languages, because I'll

593
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: take the Spanish I do know, and I'll apply it

594
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: to the French I don't really know, or the German

595
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: I need to know, or whatever it is. Anyway, it

596
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: does also I don't know if you've ever tried this,

597
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: but Spanish works really well in Italy. YEA say it

598
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: with an Italian accent. It's so close. Yeah, it's like

599
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: they know exactly what I mean. It's just like anyway,

600
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: so diamond doors. She makes it work for herself, just

601
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: about the same way. She's bouncing around, speaking her like

602
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: pigeon French with Latin roots, and this to her feels

603
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: like a winning campaign. She's like, oh, I'm on one right.

604
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: And another thing that she's tickled by. She's out of

605
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: America and I quote, on the streets, I didn't see

606
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: one black person, but I was all right holding things

607
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: down from my people in Monte Carlo. Yet that's exactly so.

608
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Now that she's in Monte Carlo, making her way looking

609
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: clean in the latest drip, she's all ready to operate. Right. So,

610
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: rather than just tell you about it, I think I'd

611
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: like you to close here up as a clue and

612
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: Elizabeth picture it. Yes, Elizabeth, you've recently started a new

613
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: job in Monte Carlo. You're working in a jewelry start.

614
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: It's not your favorite gig, but you still have those

615
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: school loans to pay off for your time at Clown College. Now,

616
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: while you wait to make it as France's next big mim,

617
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: you happily buide your time at your day job working

618
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: at the counter of Cartier. It's a small crowd today

619
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: as they shop Cardier. As you well know, it's an

620
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: amazing place to work. It's the world's preeminent jeweler, and

621
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: today is no exception. As a few swanky looking customers

622
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: take a gander at all of the gemstones on offer.

623
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: You and the other employees glide over along the glass

624
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: cabinets and graciously show them whatever it is that they'd

625
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: like to see. You see an older black woman who's

626
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: been looking over some diamond rings, so you walk over

627
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: to her, and this same woman would later recall of

628
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: this day and her time with you in the Cartier store.

629
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: Quote the place had Bella epoc decor. There were velvety

630
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: black displays of diamond necklaces and glass cases with black

631
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: velvet tubes of diamond bracelets. I saw what I had

632
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: come for, glass cases with big ass rocks. Now that

633
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: she's seemingly ready to try on one of those big

634
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: ass rocks, she warmly greet the older woman and ask

635
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: her if there's a ring that she would like to

636
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: look at. She smiles graciously and points out with a

637
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: really elegant move, that there are three rings that she'd

638
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: like to try. You open up the dress case, you

639
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: bring out the three diamond rings. Just as you set

640
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: them down, the doors to the store open, and some

641
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: cloud patrully scented American hippie strolls into the Cartier store

642
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: like it's some head shopping. He needs rolling papers, and

643
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: everyone's like, what the hell, Well, David Crosby, you don't

644
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: belong here, and take Steven Steals with you now. The

645
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: American hippy he clearly, as you point out, doesn't belong

646
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: in this world's premiere jewelry store. So it's a perfect

647
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: distraction for the older black woman you've been helping. But

648
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: you don't know this. While you and everyone else suspiciously

649
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: I this dirty hippie, the older woman standing before he

650
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: swipes one of the diamond rings, you don't even see

651
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: her make the move. It's so well practiced. The big

652
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: ass rock as a price tag of five hundred and

653
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. No way, that's about three million dollars

654
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: in today's dollars. That's three million dollars. Wow. And you

655
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: notice that there's now one less ring than you brought out.

656
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: But right at that same moment, your boss, the floor manager,

657
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: looks over at you with a steely eye. The dirty

658
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: hippie is still milling about, making everyone nervous. The floor

659
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: manager she calls you over with just her eyes. It's

660
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: a very French come over here right now. Look now,

661
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: you put the rings on top of the shelf with

662
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: a glass case and you lock it, and then you

663
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: go to walk over to your boss, and right in

664
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: that moment, you have the flash. Wait the third ring

665
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: you forgot to grab and you turn around and you

666
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: hear the ladies say, oh, my driver is here and

667
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: there's more shopping to be done. I'll come for the

668
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: piece tomorrow, and she goes to walk out. You don't

669
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: know what to do. You smile politely because that is you.

670
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: How you're practiced and well trained. And you're still focusing

671
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: on your steely eyed floor manager who is dread demanding

672
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: you come over here and deal with the dirty ass

673
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: American hippie. So you are busy and then with one

674
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: quick look back at the customer out the door. Gone.

675
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Now you have a multimillion dollar ring. You have to

676
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: explain why it is gone. Man, that's curtains for Marcel

677
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: mar So so diamond. You're going back to Colown College,

678
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Diamond Doris is struck again. So while you try to

679
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: think of a compostic way to let tell this pain

680
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: in the ass boss that you just let your two

681
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: point five billion dollars ring out the door. YEA, Diamond

682
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: Doris is going to do stroll casually back to hotel,

683
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: and we will follow her. As her calm exterior is

684
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: just an act. She is fretting on the inside, just

685
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: absolutely redlining, but trying to stay calmly. She has ever

686
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: pulled off, so I don't know how you walk when

687
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: you're nervous, but she's doing her best to not do

688
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: the exactly just drip drip. Elizabeth went that way. So

689
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: as she gets back to her hotel room, dry legged,

690
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: she quickly packs takes a cab to the nice airport

691
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: right now. Once she's in, I'm good to go and

692
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: a diamond doors. She pulls out her diamond ring and

693
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: she's never really noticed the price tag. She looks and

694
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: spots the price tag. She's blown away. It's a string

695
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: of zeros. She has never stolen anything like this, As

696
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: she wrote in her memoir quote, I never saw that

697
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: many in my life. I broke out in a sweat

698
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: and everything. I was freaked out thinking I had taken

699
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: something that the whole world was going to be looking for.

700
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: So now as she's like basically racing to the nice

701
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: airport with something that she knows is pretty much a

702
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: major jail sentence, right, she knows that the spot is hot,

703
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: so she's like, okay, what can I do? What can

704
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: I do? Meanwhile, the gendarmes have been contacted by Cartier

705
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: and they are indeed hot in hot pursuit. They are

706
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: hot on her case. Right, the airport is the first

707
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: place she checked. They check first, of course, they're like,

708
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: we know she's going there. So the gendarmes they make

709
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: it in time, and they find her posted up waiting

710
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: for her flight, sitting there with a diamond ring still

711
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: on her. We'd like you to come plaze us. Do

712
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: you have a moment? And then she's like, oh no, no,

713
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: I have coing. I'm an American. I can't understand you.

714
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, it doesn't work right. So she's taken in

715
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: police custody. She then have to figure out how does

716
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: she hide this diamond? So what does she do? What

717
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: would you do? You're in police custody, you know you

718
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: have the diamond on you. They've yet to me. I

719
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: would have like a major panic attack. Someone put this

720
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: in my pocket. I found this a gap. There's there's

721
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: no way I could. I could not physically sustain through

722
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: a situation. I think one of your parts would fall off.

723
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: So she keeps somehow a cool head, and she manages

724
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: to pop the diamond ring in her mouth. Oh okay,

725
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: so she now has it hid in her mouth. But

726
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: that's only gonna be good for so long. You know.

727
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: That gets her a couple searches. But now she realized,

728
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I need to move it again, so she uses a

729
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: bit of theater and she fakes the sneeze and she

730
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: passes the diamond ring into the tissue, and from that

731
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: point then she takes the tissue and she manages to

732
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: get that into her pantyhose. So now she's got the

733
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: time and ring tucked away in her pantios. This allows

734
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: her to get it through a strip search because she's

735
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: able to pile up her pantios and they don't apparently

736
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: pat it down accurately. So the French police apparently not

737
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: sticklers for like a thorough like American style cavity search.

738
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: So anyway, the gendarmes. They can't find the ring, so

739
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: now they can't accuse her of stealing anything because there's

740
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: no stolen property on her. But they're like, that's not

741
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: gonna stop us. We're gonna still gonna take you into custody.

742
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: They hold her for nine months in a hotel nine wait,

743
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: okay months, nine months, and then in a hotel, so

744
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: they hold her for nine months where they count try

745
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: to convince her to tell them where the ring is.

746
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: She won't break, so they just basically, I don't know

747
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: how the jurisprudence of this works, but they charge of it,

748
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: don't charge her, and they hold her in custody, in

749
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: French custody. They have her like stored in a hotel

750
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: because there is no women's facility in Nice, so they

751
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: have to They have a woman's prison guard post outside

752
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: of her hotel room, and they just make a one

753
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: person in prison oh man. So there she is right now.

754
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: She gets to know the prison guards, so she's telling, oh, hey,

755
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: i've got a I need a couple of favors of

756
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: the prison guard. We're good her stuff. So one day

757
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: she's like, Okay, I think I figured out how I'm

758
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna get this ring, because she still has the ring

759
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: in her study. She's still hiding it. And so she

760
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: tells the prison guard, Hey, I need um some thread

761
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: and needle to men's some stockings. And then you know,

762
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: the person's like, okay, she also needs a tonail clippers through,

763
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: like tonil clippers, Like yeah, from my ton for nine months. Yeah,

764
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: So like, okay, I'll get you the toneil clippers. She's like,

765
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: I have some in my bag. You can just go

766
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: to my bag and pull the stuff out. But the

767
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: gendarme prison guards like, oh we and so she goes over,

768
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: she pulls out the tonail clippers. She gives her the

769
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: thread and the needle, and then she goes in and

770
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: she then takes the tonail clippers and I'll leave it

771
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: to diamond Doris quote. I use the tonail clippers to

772
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: pry the diamond out of the mounting, and I threw

773
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: the mounting in the Mediterranean. So apparently she had a

774
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: Mediterranean view in her hotel room. So she's in nice

775
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: with a Mediterranean view, like a balcony, flowers on the

776
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: list to throw something into the ocean. Yeah, So she

777
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: then takes the diamond and what gusted, right, so she

778
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: puts it, this diamond into a bunch of thread, like

779
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: basically makes a little ball of thread and then sows

780
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: that into her girdle and then where's the girdle the

781
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: rest of the time. So now she's got this diamond

782
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: girdle and she manages to outlast the French after the

783
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: nine months pass like, fine, we'll let you go, and

784
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: then she flies back to America with the girdle because

785
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, they don't do all the metal searches of everything.

786
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: So she gets the diamond back to America, where she

787
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: promptly goes to a pawnbroker and sells it for a

788
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: third of its value. That's incredible. So she managed to

789
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: get one over on the Gendarmes. Wow, let's take another

790
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: quick little break and I'll be back with the rest

791
00:37:42,719 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: of the Doris pain life and Crimes. All right, So

792
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Aron, I told you that Nixon left the White House. Yeah,

793
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: now we're back in America. Gerald Ford is in the

794
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: White House, Remember him, Gerald Ford? Yeah, the guy fell

795
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: well I forget him a lot. Yeah, well he was there.

796
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: So the old college Football Center, you know, old Dinghy.

797
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: He he's the president, but he doesn't matter at all, right,

798
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: because Doris Payne is out of her legal trouble. She's

799
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: escaped Monte Carlo and the Nice Airport, and she's made

800
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: it back to America, and uh, well what does she

801
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: do now? I don't know. She goes back to Europe.

802
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: She went back. Yes, sometimes she's like, oh, I'm not

803
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: going to go back to France. That's she goes to Rome.

804
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: She's like, I think I think my Latin may go

805
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: further there. So she goes to Rowans. She when she's

806
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: in Rome, she hits up the Bulgary store, you know Bulgary. Yeah,

807
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: so she got to Bulgary and she records in her

808
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: memoir Diamond Doris, the True Story of the World's most

809
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Notorious jewel Thief, that she quote finally met her match

810
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: in a jewelry store employee. Yeah. So, quote this dude

811
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: was trained like a stripper, but I was gonna find

812
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: a way to flip it on him. Train like a stripper.

813
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: I think like he was professional. You're saying like he

814
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: was able to handle everything all comers. Yeah. Yeah. So

815
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: it took some wrangling and some sweet talking distraction, but

816
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: eventually Diamond Doris was able to slip a yellow diamond

817
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: ring under her middle finger. And the jewelry store employee,

818
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: the one who was up to snuff, he failed to

819
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: notice this move. So she'd done her like distraction into

820
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: the graceful, like a like magician's hands or whatever. Now

821
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: she's got the rock on her finger, right, I imagine

822
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: it's turned around to the rock is inside by her paw. Right.

823
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: But anyway, Diamond Doris goes, oh, where's the loop? And

824
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: then or the bathroom? And so the person tells her

825
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: she excused herself to the restroom. But instead of going

826
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: to the restroom, what did she do is she'd be

827
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: lines to the front door out the store. Right, Because

828
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: they just believe she's going to the restroom, they stuff

829
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: restaurant exactly. So in Bolden by her good luck, Diamond

830
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: Doris is like, you know what I'm thinking, I'm on

831
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: a googlin right now. So she goes on a five day,

832
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: four city campaign, hitting all the hot spots she can.

833
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: She pops over the Channel, she dicks a stop over

834
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: in London. She manages to hit up the British jeweler

835
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: Garrard and Company. Do you know Gerard and Company of Guard?

836
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: So there, I didn't know this they're the jeweler of

837
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: the British crown. She ripped them off. Okay, spot right. Yeah.

838
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: She walks back onto the plane where she's going to

839
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: return to America, and at this point she has a

840
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: small fortune on her this time. Yeah. Quote, I was

841
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: carrying what would amount today to nearly one million worth

842
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: of jewelry on me. Wow. Yes, But as with all

843
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: good things, there were signs at the heady days of

844
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: robbing the Queen of England's jeweler and slipping away like

845
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: she's the scarlet pimpernel or behind her. Because the most

846
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: dire sign is she started to get caught way more often. Yeah,

847
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: for a decade, she's rarely ever napped. Right. She used

848
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: to say, quote, I never went to jail and stayed.

849
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: That is the reputation I wanted. I knew I could

850
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: get out. She starts to lose that reputation. So for

851
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: the longest time, that's her deal. Right. She's in Zurich

852
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: for her fiftieth birthday. The year is nineteen eighty and

853
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: she spends the day acquiring rolexes while she's out drinking

854
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: with her driver. So she's sliding in and out of consciousness,

855
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: stealing rolexes in Zurich. Right, happy fiftieth to me. She

856
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: also violates one of her own rules. She's operating will

857
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: drunk Like She's like, Ohshan, do you not operate this

858
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: machinery will drunk? Right? So, but she for her fiftieth birthday,

859
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: she breaks her rules. She breaks one of the Diamond

860
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: Doors ten commandments and she goes and gets drunk with

861
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: the driver that they throw back way too many cocktails.

862
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: And then that same evening, feeling festives, she goes out

863
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: to a nightclub. Quote. Next thing I know, I'm up

864
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: in dance and I'm not having a great time. Right,

865
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: So she's turning out the dance floor. But she doesn't

866
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: know this. She's on TV because this club has a

867
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: link that they broadcast on Swiss TV showing all the

868
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: missing are doing. It's amazing, right, So everybody turns out.

869
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: There are some viewers of this show that aren't just

870
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: club kids. The local police, they apparently the station. Yeah,

871
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure they watch it. They bought Diamond Doris and

872
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: recognize her, so they just go on down to the

873
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: club kid. Yeah, So on her fiftieth birthday, she gets

874
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: arrested and she sent on the train to Geneva to

875
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: stand trial for theft, but the cops made one fatal mistake.

876
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: The train wasn't a NonStop train, hey stop, so they

877
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: stopped to reload fresh water and Diamond Doris that's all

878
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: she needed to make a getaway quote. I jumped off

879
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: the train. It was funny too later because I looked bad.

880
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: I looked awful. That's what she's thinking about, Letts. She's like,

881
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: my wig was off sideways. Anyway, she's lost in the

882
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: darker Switzerland, bounce around by herself. Diamond Doris wanders all

883
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: through the night. Remember this is her fiftieth birthday, right,

884
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: So she makes it to a town, doesn't know where

885
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: she is. She doesn't know she's what border. Maybe she's crossed.

886
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: She all she knows, she's crossed some cornfield, some farms,

887
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: she went through, a goat herd and then all of

888
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: a sudden, she finds his taxi driver working that night

889
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: in the quiet part of town, late at night, so

890
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: she offers him all the money she had on her

891
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: for a ride. Yeah, she doesn't have any money on her,

892
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: but she tells him that, right because remember she's arrested,

893
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: so she doesn't know where to go, So she's like, yes,

894
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: go to that direction to night. So the driver isn't

895
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: suspicious because he's a late a night doing his own thing.

896
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: So she knows she needs to keep moving all right.

897
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: And plus she's all starting to sober up because I

898
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: remember she's been really drunk, this drunk, so she's got

899
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: also the sudden memory of these stolen rolexes popping into

900
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: the flour of her mind. She's like, oh, that's right,

901
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: all the how embarrassing. She's like having all this like

902
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: it's a really bad fiftieth birthday, That's what I'm saying, right,

903
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: So as the effects of the drink are creeping up

904
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: on her and fading away, at the same time, she said, quote,

905
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the hell was wrong with me.

906
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm too old for this, I told myself. Wow,

907
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: And this is a time arter tradition in the black community,

908
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: when you've reached the point of saying maybe I'm too

909
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: old for this. You are too old for this, So

910
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's truly, it's true. So Danny Glover sealed

911
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: it and la weapon and we've all known it ever

912
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: since then. So now Nyman door, she didn't listen to

913
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: herself which she should have. Instead, she starts getting busted

914
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: with the smooth regularity of a Rolex watch. Yes. In

915
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, Diamond Doris is busted in Ohio. She's

916
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: caught after she went to a hospital for treatment. Problem

917
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: was she was under federal custody at the time, so

918
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: she was under federal custody. He went to the hospital,

919
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: tried to walk out, she gets busted. She back to

920
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: federal custody. In nineteen ninety one, she gets caught stealing

921
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: like Jane's addiction. She was in prison for five months.

922
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: She had stolen a seventeen thousand dollars ring from a

923
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: store in Eleira. Yeah. So eight years later, in nineteen

924
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: ninety nine, Diamond Doris is busted again, this time in Denver, Colorado,

925
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: for a fifty seven thousand dollars ring. Thanks to this bust,

926
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: she's now facing serious time. She gets sentenced to twelve years.

927
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: She only ends up doing five though they release her

928
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: own like you know crowding, I think prison crowding. Ten

929
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: she gets popped in Coasta Mesa, California. She was in

930
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: a Saxsmith Avenue store. She was trying to buy, like

931
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: or lift a barbery coat for thirteen hundred dollars. She

932
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: gets spotted ripping the price tag out of the coat.

933
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: She's getting slop. Later that same year, she's busted in

934
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: a macy for attempting to steal a diamond ring worth

935
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: nine grand. You notice the prices are dropping fast, right, Yeah,

936
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: so the amounts are going down, the busts are going up.

937
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: These are inversely proportional bad for diamond doors, never good

938
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: for a career criminal. For this to happen, is this

939
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: bad end of the career averages? Right, She's like a

940
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: star athlete. This would be the bummer years. These would

941
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: be like, oh man, like the you know, a soon

942
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: to be Aaron Rodgers on the Jets, like go ahead

943
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: and retire, Yes, exactly when you, as a fan wish

944
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: they retire. You're like, okay, well, I as a fan

945
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: of diamond doors on a girl hang up? Yeah. Well,

946
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, she's eighty one years old. She's still

947
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: working hard in the hight game. Are you kidding me?

948
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: She went on an epic tear. She retarts ripping off

949
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: diamonds from Palm Springs to San Diego. She was like

950
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: a criminal snowbird. She went a good weather was but

951
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: just for ripping stuff off, right, She's like a jailbird,

952
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: a snow jailbird. Anyway, So she gets busted in San Diego,

953
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: sentence to sixteen months into San Diego prison. She gets

954
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: caught stealing a one carrot diamond ring, like old Doris

955
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: would be looking so down on one of the detectives

956
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: from the San Diego Pedia. This dude, detective Thomas Jacks.

957
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: He recalled that Diamond Doris quote was a nice old

958
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: lady who's seeing quote like my mom and my grandparents.

959
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: And Detective Jack's also added the quote, I think she's

960
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: romanticized this beyond what it really is. She is a thief,

961
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: and what she does affects other people. You've basically become

962
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: a victim of your own myth making. So Diamond Doris's lawyer,

963
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: Gretchen von Helms, she was quick the defender. She's like, well,

964
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, my client, you have to understand, quote never

965
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: hurt anybody, and quote is not forceful, like when you're

966
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: getting down to the point. Looked, She's never actually smashing

967
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: anyone in the face, you know. But this is not

968
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: exactly a ringing endorsement. So this, this is the metric

969
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: that they're using for crime, which is if you're not

970
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: hurting anybody who cares. I've said this before this and

971
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: my metric. Diamond Doris is really testing beyond this one,

972
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: I have to admit, because as Detective Jack says, Diamond

973
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Doris was indeed hurting folks, right. She was like the

974
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: jewelry store owner's bloo, whatever thees. Yeah, that's who I

975
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: was thinking about. The employees that she's stealing from the

976
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 1: they're losing their job. You know, they're getting fired anyway,

977
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: Remember I said earlier Willie Mays, Yes, bringing it back

978
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: to William May. Another one is an example of back

979
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: in the sixties, she stole a diamond ring, back when

980
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: she was you know, selling stuff to the Cleveland ball players.

981
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: She stole a ring and it turned out, through an

982
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: odd course of events, Willie Mays's wife gets blamed for

983
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: the theft. Willie Mays's wife then gets arrested or the theft,

984
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: and Willie Mays's wife spends like time being like having

985
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: her whole everything be disparaged. Willie Mays looks bad. It's

986
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: like I do not need to do yes exactly. So

987
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: there's another example of somebody who gets hurt by done so. Anyway,

988
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: So when she was asked though, when if she had

989
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: any regrets. In a twenty twenty two interview with Karen

990
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Greer from a Landed Channel two news team, Yeah, Kara,

991
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: she had, Diamond Doris told the journalist Karen Greer, well,

992
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: I didn't kill nobody or rob nobody, and so once

993
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: again the same bars. So Karen Greer pointed out what

994
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: I basically pointed out, Well, you kind of robbed somebody. Yeah,

995
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: it's like and I would go past kind of Karen,

996
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: rob and you hurt people. Yeah, you definitely did so. Butever,

997
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: in a colorful twist of semantics, Diamond Doris argued, I

998
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't rob them. They gave it to me, So they're stupid.

999
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: It's like a child's version of like they handed it

1000
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't steal it. I walked out with it.

1001
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I thought they gave it to me. I'm like, come on,

1002
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: snap too. Anyway, the chairman and the owner of the

1003
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: luxury jeweler brand Black Star and Frost this cat named

1004
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: Alfred Bollina no relation to the Doctor Octopus actor Alfred Molina. Yeah,

1005
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: he said of Diamond Doris quote, I found her to

1006
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: basically have an open heart and to share her life

1007
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: with everyone. She's not a threat to society. I don't

1008
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: agree with what she has done, but I see her

1009
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: as a product that was created by us. WHOA, that's yeah.

1010
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I literally thought that was like damn, I never expect

1011
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: to hear that. Anyway. It's a generous, admirable view from

1012
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: the Jeweler. I'll give them to that. Admittedly, his company

1013
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: was never a target of Diamond Doris. Well, that's easy

1014
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: to say then, yeah, but he he said, and I

1015
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: quote that if Diamond Doris had, you know, hit his store,

1016
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: his opinion would have not changed even quote one degree. Yeah,

1017
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: that's it's not really We can test that one in theory,

1018
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: but in reality you don't know. So the Jeweler Security

1019
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: Alliance President John J. Kennedy not to be confused with

1020
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: former President John F. Kennedy, Okay, and not to be

1021
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: confused with Senator John Neely Kennedy Louisiana. Right this, John J.

1022
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: Kennedy uh T told Business Ends Center. Quote, it's extraordinarily

1023
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: rare for a criminal to have that lengthy of a career.

1024
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: Usually they either stopped because they have enough money and

1025
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: they don't want the risk anymore, or they're dead. So

1026
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: I really gets right down to it. So in other words,

1027
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: Diamond Doris has explained why she can't stop stealing diamonds,

1028
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 1: Like basically she she speaks to his point and she said,

1029
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: quote stealing jewelry, it was just exciting, which is what

1030
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: you said? Yeah, and I can continue the quote. It

1031
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: also became a social outlet for me. This was her

1032
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: way of meeting new people. Social out quote. That was

1033
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: my everything. I don't regret being a jewel thief. Do

1034
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: I regret getting caught? Yes? I have a few. Yeah.

1035
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: So she's still a little like, you know, prickly. Yeah,

1036
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: but she did say that quote, I've been a jewel

1037
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: thief for many, many years. I am exceptionally proud of

1038
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: my being the very opposite of what is expected. So

1039
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: she's still flexing on him. And now in twenty fifteen,

1040
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: Diamond Doris was busted yet again. At least this time

1041
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: the ring was in the double digits. She was back

1042
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: up and around thirty three thousand dollars ring. She gets

1043
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: busted in Charlotte, North Carolina, twenty fifteen. How old is

1044
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: she at that point? Yeah? So next year she gets

1045
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: caught in Atlanta at the Perimeter Mall, and she had

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Speaker 1: her eye on the two thousand dollar necklace. She gets

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00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: out of jail in twenty seventeen, it is promptly busted

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Speaker 1: again and at the age of eighty six. This time

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00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: the granny with a lars in his fingers is busted

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00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: stealing a six hundred and ninety dollars pair of Christian

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00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: Dior earrings from a sax Fifth Avenue in Atlanta Phipps Plaza.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a bummer, dude. I grew up a street

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00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: away from Atlanta Fipsplaza. I could literally picture the parking lot.

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00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm like seeing her getting pulled out and put into

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00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: the police car like I was, like, it was sad, right,

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00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: So the bummer bust is though when she the ultimate

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00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: bummer bust, and this is a series of bummer bust

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00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: She gets caught later that year the same year, twenty seventeen,

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00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: attempting to steal eighty six dollars worth of stuff from

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00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: a Walmart in Shambly, Georgia. She was wearing an ankle

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00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: monitor at the time when she gets popped into Shambly Walmart.

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00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Diamond Dorris had a ready excuse, and she said that

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00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: this was a career strategy. She claimed she got busted

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00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: on purpose. She wanted the publicity. She said, quote, if

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00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: I come to Atlanta, I might get a book deal.

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00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: I might get a movie deal because this is the

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00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: only city in the United States that blacks have any

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00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: firm footing. Now like most of other criminals. She did

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00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: not get that book deal, not then. But how about

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00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: a movie deal, Well, there was in the works. There

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00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: was a movie almost about her in two thousand and eight.

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00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: It was gonna star can you guess, no, Hollie Harry

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00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: Real Alle Barry, Diamond, Doris halle Berry. Yeah, but that

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00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: wasn't the call because Diamond Doris wasn't so into halle Berry.

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00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: She said when they mentioned halle Berry, and I was

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00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: kind of shocked. She is not the person I would

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00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: choose to portray me, because halle Berry has a carriage

1078
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: about her. She don't really know who she is. But

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00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa she just lets it all. It doesn't matter

1080
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: how much she has. She's just a good old girl.

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00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: She wanted Queen Latifa to play her. She saw that

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00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: opening to what's that movie? Oh the movie set him off? Yeah, no, no, no,

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00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: the movie where she's like a bike messengers that ridiculous opening.

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00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: Can't think of what it is. I don't know where

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00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: she's like, she's doing stunt, crazy stun subway round on

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00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: a bike and then she pulled off my helmet. Queen

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00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: Latifa maybe saying she saw that and she was like, no,

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00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: that's me. That's what I look like on the mountain bike.

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00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: After the halle Berry bio because shelved and the Queen

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00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: Latifa movie never goes forward. In two thousand and nine,

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00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: the Netflix documentary is made about Diamond Doris. It's called

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00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: The Life in Crimes of Doris Pain. And now there

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00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: is a new biopic in the works. It will star

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00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: can you guess no, Tessa Thompson. Oh okay, that's interesting.

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00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: She's already blurred on Doris Pain's memoir quote. Doris Pain

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00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: is an unapologetic badass. I love her. So she's a

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00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: big fan. And apparently she was long covered a chance

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00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: to play her, so she's tweeted about it. She's all excited,

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00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on that space. Anyway. If you'd

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Speaker 1: like to check more of her story, be sure to

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00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: check the documentary, or you can read more of her

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00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: own words in her memoir Diamond Doris, The True Story

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00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: of the World's most notorious jewel Thief. In the book,

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00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: she closes her story with these words, and I quote,

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00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: did I imagine some of this? Make it up, elaborate it,

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00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: polish it like a good diamond, make you want to

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00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: look at it, make a smile. You have to decide,

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00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: she's not still with us. She's still alive. You're a kid. Yes,

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00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: she is not deceased. She's out there still swiping rings

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00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: and getting busted to this day. If I had any money,

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00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: I would send it to her. I'd be like, girl,

1112
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: get yourself a good Cadillac and cruise this country. That's amazing,

1113
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: star ridiculous takeaway here. Well, you know, she's maybe it's

1114
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: good for your health. Thisay crime is good for your health.

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00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: She doesn't have dementia. She doesn't. It's pretty impressive. Yeah,

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00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: Like she's got a good bit of health. It's incredible, Doris.

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00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: Although I do have to be a little bit real

1118
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: about this. You gotta know when to get out of

1119
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: the game or get some young blood to help you.

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00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: Either she gets a young girl to come in and

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00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: help her, or some young brother to be a distraction. Yeah,

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00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: but I mean I know people who once they retire,

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00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: their health goes down. Just to recognize it. She needs

1124
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: like a you know, she needs to start d ching.

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00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: She can't be out. She needs she needs a mentee.

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00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, she got a stuff one of them young

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00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: mentees and start doing like I don't know, like some

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00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker and Ray stuff. Or he's like I'm gonna

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00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: train you and I'm gonna be mad about it the

1130
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: whole time. She needs a baby Yoda. Yes, exactlyyone needs

1131
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: a baby Yoda. Does you need a babu frick? I

1132
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: really need a Bobby, which she would culos takeaway. That's

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: pretty much it. You need to know when to get

1134
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: out of the game, like when you tell a story

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00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: and then you're asked, what's your ridiculous takeaway? Hello, if

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00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: you've not been listening to ridiculous takeaways, you need a

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00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: bobbo frick. Girl, I do need a bb frick. Well

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Speaker 1: that's all I got for you. I just wanted to

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: tell you a crime biopic. So there you go. We

1140
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: have this debate over biopic or biopic to Oh, yeah,

1141
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: I say biopic, you say biopic. I was in Hollywood.

1142
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: I know that's how they set it down. I will

1143
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: not like that. That's my best Andy Coffin, I'm from Hollywood. Anyway,

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00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: you can find his online ridiculous comment about Twitter and Instagram,

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00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: Twitters for the discards Instagrams where we put up all

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00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: the photos of these episodes that we all of the

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00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: stuff we've been talking about. We'll have some good ones

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00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: with Diamond Doris Pain. The stories are there for some

1149
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: laughs and uh yeah, if you want to reach out

1150
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: to us, hit us up at Ridiculous Crime at gmail

1151
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: dot com. We always appreciate it. Here in front of

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00:55:52,040 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: the end as always, thanks pretty Ridiculous Crime. It's hosted

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Speaker 1: by Lizabeth Duddon and Zaron Burnett, produced and edited by Diamond,

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00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: Dave Kustin. Researches by Marissa Diamonds Off Forever Brown and

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00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: Andrea Diamonds. A Girl's Best Friend song Sharp End Tier

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00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: our theme song is by Thomas Diamond, Dog Lee and

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Speaker 1: Travis demon On. The Diamond thoracic specialist Dutton. Executive producers

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Speaker 1: are Ben Legs, Diamond Bowling and Noeld Diamond, Jim Brady,

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Speaker 1: Hi Elizabeth is Erin producer Dave Dude melody here reporting

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: for duty, taking one for the team. I knew immediately

1161
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: when I heard about the Hidden Valley Ranch ice cream

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00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: I had to try it. I'm happy to see what

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00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: happens here for everyone else who knows. As I said

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00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: on my Instagram, it's either going to end as a

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00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: huge success or in tears. I have it sitting right

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00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: in front of me. I have not opened it. It

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: says on the side, good job hands Now it's mouth's

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00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: turn a life without anything good is bad? True, true,

1169
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: and the paper just ripped. Let's try. Okay, it smells interesting.

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: It smells kind of like ranch, but very odd. And

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00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: I do consider myself to be a ranch connoisseur. I

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00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: am a big fan of ranch. So it looks just

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00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: like ice cream. Nothing exciting. All right, let's see what happens.

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00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: Take a bite. WHOA, this is odd? WHOA? This is

1175
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: really odd? WHOA? Okay, so it's actually not terrible if

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: you like ranch dressing. It hits kind of sweets and

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: then you start getting kind of a ranch aftertaste and

1178
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: it feels like I ate a salad now with a

1179
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: lot of ranch dressing on it. Trying another bite. Yeah,

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00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would give you again, but I'm

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00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: not sad that I got it now, So d dudes,

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00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: if you like ranch dressing, it might be worth a try.

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00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: I've certainly spent more on stupider things in the past.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the podcast, Guys, Cry See It one more times.

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