1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: Cayleb Williams got off to a scintilating start during our show. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: He started out ten for ten at it touch. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 4: This is a replay. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: I thought it first half, thirteen of sixteen passing, it 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 3: was all looking good. They got to pick six there 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: in the third quarter, but after halftime it was all 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: downhill for Caleb Williams. He finished the second half eight 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: of nineteen. He had an NFL worst off target rate 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: of twenty nine point four percent of Week one, which 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: means about thirty percent of his passes were off target. Again, 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: but he was not the only problem. As you mentioned, 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson had a series of blunders, most notably at 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 3: the very end of the game. They're trying to come 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: back and make something out of nothing there at the end, 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: and rather than order a kickoff either out of bounds 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: into the end zone for a touchback, or even an 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: onside kick. He kicks it only about two three yards 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: into the end zone, and Kevin O'Connell, as smart as 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: he is, has his returner pause for a second burned 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: just enough time to advance back to the doom in 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: the warning, then return it out, which means that the 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: Chicago Bears lost about forty seconds. It's a huge play. 30 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: By not doing that, it's a huge play. 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: And there we go. 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams good start, bad finish, just a CE day 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: for me. Didn't play that well. But there were other issues, 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: including Santos the kicker. When I look at this, Ben Johnson, 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: a rookie head coach, you gotta make sure that everybody 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 5: understands this. 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 4: You know, like the end of the game. 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: We see it over and over, you know where coaches 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 5: get out coached or don't know what they're doing clock management. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: How many times have we seen that? 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 5: But the Antos one is the one that bothers me 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 5: even more because he really he botched it. There was 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 5: two things. He missed a fifty yard field goal right, 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 5: and the bad part is that would have given the 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: Bears a fourteen point lead. 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 4: Instead. 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 5: Remember with the miss, the Vikings got the ball on 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: a forty yard line, So it's not just the mist 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: of the three points. You're giving them great field position, 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: which of course they cashed in and scored a touchdown 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 5: six plays later. So and then so there's three things there. 52 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: Miss field goal. God's going to miss field goals. I'm 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: not saying he's got to make everyone fifty nowadays is 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 5: very makeable. People are making what looks like could be 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: sixty five seventy with regularity. So he misses the fifty 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 5: yard aup bad and then you know, they get the 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 5: ball on the forty able to score a touchdown changes 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 5: the game like overnight. And then you gotta kick the 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: ball out of the end zone, right, you can't can't 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 5: be a return. Forty seconds is a lot of time 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: in the NFL. It's the different you saw at the 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 5: end of the half where the Vikings were able to 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: go and I would they have twenty five seconds, twenty 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: three seconds and they got three points out of it. 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: It's a lot of time. We saw the Bills do 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: that to the Ravens. Am I right. 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: Yet there's a lot of time that's like and we 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 5: saw the Kansas City Chiefs beat the Bills with thirteen 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: seconds to go. Thirteen you think, oh, there's no, that's 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: plenty of time. So those forty seconds lost. So it 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: was a Bears loss all over the board. I just 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 5: can't pin this on Caleb. Should he play better, Absolutely, 73 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: he started off great, you know, but it didn't play 74 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: well all the way through. But the kicking game, the 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: inexperienced head coach had a lot to do. 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: With it as well. 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a tel of two hats for two teams. 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll start with the Bears because I think that's where 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: obviously this goes, because they were up. One of the 80 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: things that happened in real time you and I were 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: sitting here. I said it on the air and didn't 82 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: even when we were chatting, was the Bears had to 83 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: get more points. I said it on the air, I said, 84 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: looks like they're dominating this first half. 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: The Vikings look dead. They couldn't move the ball. 86 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: They had fifty I think forty fifty yards and then 87 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: you had Caleb Williams already with a buck seventy and 88 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: at that point in time they had like ten points, 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: might even been seven. At the point in time, and 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: so I said, you gotta come away with more points less. 91 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: You gotta come away and that's not a field goal 92 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: that needs to be a touchdown, or that punt needs 93 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: to have been a field goal. 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: You gotta get points. 95 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: They weren't able to do that, because then what happens 96 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: is you go into a second half and if you're 97 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: the Vikings, you say, well, shoot, we played horribly. We 98 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: played as bad as we could play. JJ McCarthy look 99 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: bad defense, you're letting Caleb carve us up. And yet 100 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: we're still in this game. And that's the reason why 101 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to take full advantage of that first half 102 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: if you're the Bears and they didn't, and then you 103 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: get a completely reversal between quarterbacks and also coaches as well. 104 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. The issue with him was the fact that 105 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: he was so off target. Thirty percent of his passes 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: were off targe thirty two quarterbacks started in the NFL. 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: He can't be last. You can't be last. You can 108 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: be twentieth, you can be fifteenth, you can't be last 109 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to your targets. How off target he was, 110 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: that's obviously gonna be an issue. He has to handle 111 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the blitz more. Brian Flores was playing chess, not checkers. 112 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: Brian Flores said, all right, first half, let you dink 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: and dunk. Let you get some nice passes, all right. 114 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: I think he was thirteen for fifteen. All right, cool 115 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: second half chess match, and he blitzed them on I 116 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: believe it was forty four percent of his passes. So 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: he went from twenty nine percent getting blitzed to forty four. 118 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: And you see, Caleb was rattled and he couldn't handle it, 119 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: and that was why he had such a bad second half. Also, 120 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson forgot he has multiple things to 121 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: think about. You're not just the offensive coordinator. You also 122 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: the coach, says, is overseeing the defense, the offense, the 123 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: special teams. And you can tell he's not used to 124 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: the overarching yet, where do you're the head coach? Not 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: just worried about kayleb Williams, just matt at Kaylen Williams 126 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: for his bad pass, Not just. 127 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: Mad because they didn't do this, dude, we need to 128 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: worry about. 129 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: Also, what we could game plan is defensively, what we're 130 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna do with the special teams as you mentioned, So 131 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: overall I think they got it was two tales of 132 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: a half. Kevin O'Connell has now been a coach for 133 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: several years, head coach, comfortable, knew what he was doing, 134 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: knew he could get the best out of J. J. 135 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: McCarthy in the second half. Brian Flores, who has played 136 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson plenty of times. Ben Johnson offensive coordinating for Lions. 137 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: Brian Floor is over there of course with the Avis. 138 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 5: But I think you've left out one part too. The 139 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 5: Bears were heavily penalized twelve penalties for one hundred. 140 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: No but you say that though I was getting to it, 141 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: I wrote it down penalty. 142 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 5: You're not gonna win a game when you get one 143 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty seven penalties, and that goes that's coaching. 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: That's coaching, and that goes to I believe some of 145 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: the issues we saw in the offseason with the penalties 146 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: you have. Ben Johnson was upset at the offense. Remember 147 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: he pulled them off completely, pulled the first stringers off 148 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: the field. One of the things he's mentioned we got 149 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: to be better in timing. They have four false starts. 150 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 5: But they also had holdings that stop drives and plays. 151 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: But you can't have false starts. You can't have when 152 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: you're trying to produce points. And that's what to me. 153 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: One hundred and twenty seven yards and penalties. You're just 154 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: not gonna win when you do that. And especially it 155 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 5: wasn't like they turned the ball over right like, that's 156 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: the other part. 157 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: Uh So there was a lot of. 158 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Sad you me, they got seven points from the pick six, 159 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff that went on. Well, that's just 160 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: part of football, No, that's what I'm saying. So you 161 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: would want to take advantage of the fact we got 162 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: six the other team gave us six seven. 163 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: That's just a part of solo game. 164 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 5: The other thing, too, is what shocking is you're a 165 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: Michigan fan and you had no scouting report on JJ McCarthy. 166 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: You thought he couldn't throw. You can change your mind. 167 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: No, no, no, what the stand by what I said. 168 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: I was shocked they went to tenth. That's where all 169 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: I sit here myself. But but you said that you 170 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't you know, he wasn't known as a passer. He 171 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: was known as a great game manager winner. The team's 172 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: won in first couple of last couple of years, they 173 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: won a national championship. So we folks like myself who 174 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: saw a snap to tenth. 175 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: I saw people jump on him in the first half 176 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: because of that. 177 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 5: Oh there's some people who jump big people. Yeah, they 178 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 5: jumped on him. And I'm just saying to me, and 179 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 5: what did I say to you? I can't evaluate him 180 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 5: as a pastor because he didn't pass a lot in college. 181 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: Right, That doesn't mean he can't pass. 182 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: That's the offense that That's why. 183 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. And that's all I was 184 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: saying to you is I can't do that. 185 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: I can't say he's not a pastor yet because I 186 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 5: just haven't seen enough body of work to say he's 187 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 5: a good pastor or not. 188 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: My shock was that he went to tenth because he 189 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: had he didn't have to be. He won a national 190 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: championship too. But the overall take last point for me 191 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: is I want to see Caleb Williams make some things 192 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: happen when it matters because he didn't have to do it. 193 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: In college. 194 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: The team didn't win a bunch the year he won 195 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: the Heisman, they didn't win a bunch the second year. 196 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Us he was expected to do great things those two 197 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: years he was there, they did see the defense on 198 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: that and I did, and I still want more from Williams, 199 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: and I want a much better second half from Kayle. 200 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 5: Let's go take a look at what what they gave 201 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: up in that they had no defense his second year. 202 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: It's okay, I need more out of you, Caleb. 203 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: I'm just saying that team collapse defensively USC. 204 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is for him to be the talent. 205 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: I haven't got the results. Individually. I got the Heisman, 206 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: but as a collective, I have not gotten the results 207 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: for all the hype and the talent that I've had 208 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: now for three years of Caleb Williams two at USC 209 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: one at it with the Bears. 210 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: But now should do did great? Because he didn't have 211 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 4: offensive line? I'm sorry where where? Because because you because 212 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: you made didn't have anything? 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Hutchman, Zada, and Plexico Birds on the 227 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast from. 228 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: Time to rehitch an old Hount take that's gone colside Sai. 229 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: It's microwavecake with. 230 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: The yeah what what you viewed it more? 231 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's gonna get more of a pass 232 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: to Jalen Oh because again he got kicked out. The 233 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: whole game was literally he didn't play a single snap. 234 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: So I think that is the game that they could 235 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: say he was suspended for a game because it was 236 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: that whole game. WHOA, that sounds like something I said today? 237 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: So that was last week? Verbada what I said today? 238 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: That's a Michael Wave take. When did y'all tape that 239 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 4: inside the studio? You just take. 240 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just take receipts around here the kitchen. 241 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: I know, I know you just taped it. And then yeah, yeah, 242 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: I get it. But it's okay. You know what I like. 243 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: You know what I like, what I pride myself in 244 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: is when the Lions might lose or this might happen, 245 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: and the next day, I gotta come in and sit 246 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: next to you, and I know you're gonna let me 247 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: know I was right, and I say, Rob, you were 248 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: right or Rob, I was wrong? Why fold you can't 249 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: say that, huh, that was dumb. You were right, you 250 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: said it. You called it verbatim. Can't say I don't 251 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: have to say you said it? Can you say no, 252 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: you said it? 253 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: Okay. 254 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: I want to make sure this one, to make sure 255 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: you can say, you know, I said it exactly how 256 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: it happened. 257 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: That's so I said, Rob, you was right, man, you're right. 258 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: You called it. You called it just like the Lions 259 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: were going to Super Bowl last year, right, And I said, 260 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: you were right, you were right the Lion. I'd rather 261 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: you say just you're wrong. 262 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: You don't have to say I'm right, okay, But then 263 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: you say no, you say, that's what you just say. 264 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: So you got to say, come on, come all right, 265 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: come on, we got trash talking coming. 266 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 5: I see it in about thirty five minutes or so. 267 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: So you have a chance to trash anyone anything in 268 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: the world of sports. 269 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ready to trash somebody to uh. Secondarily, Uh 270 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: that would be Tyreek Hill, Rob g We talked about 271 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: this over the summer. 272 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 5: We got another Aaron Judge watched. Oh no, that was 273 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 5: Cody Bellen. Look at you two nothing Yankees do it? 274 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: Ain't even look is Aaron Joe? Oh no, Cody bell Anyways, 275 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: keep going, this is what I talk He has a 276 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: home run. Oh my god, that's got racist. You gotta 277 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: start mL he rob MLB snow Is that what you 278 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 4: gotta do? I'LB dude coming out? No, Alex m LB 279 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: snow is that would have gotta be the secondary website 280 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: who hits before Bellinger? 281 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 5: Well, Bellinger, it was Aaron John I just I'm doing 282 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 5: a radio show. 283 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: I have my head turned on, so you can't wait. 284 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: And then I turned back in the both Alex, Alex, 285 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: I need that marked so when something happened and not 286 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: go oh even are you calling him out? 287 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 4: You know? Rob all light Skins look alike it's okay, 288 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: that's what it is. Hey, it's Ben Rice is up now, 289 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: So don't look. 290 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Don't don't look. Ben Rices just don't want you to 291 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: pay attention. Hey, I'll tell you what he did out. 292 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: If he was Uncle ben Rice, then I would watch people. 293 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 4: We know, then they would have to change the name 294 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: Uncle Bendo. Now wish you really got to do real talk, Robbie. 295 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: You got a corner of the market and get MLB 296 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: broad dot com as well, and then they have no 297 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: idea that you're the shadow guy covering both both sides 298 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: of the plate. 299 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 4: Racist that the shadow. 300 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 5: It's just like, it's just like, it's just like with 301 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 5: Pillsbury makes the discounted biscuits that cost a dollar, you 302 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 5: know what I mean. So they make those biscuits and 303 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 5: they make the high priced biscuits. 304 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: That's how you corner them. 305 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: Mark, that could be you. Yeah, all right, all right, 306 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: I gave you the name too. I just want at 307 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: least ten percent fee. 308 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 309 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: So, anyway, that was Cody Belinger. Back to what I 310 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: was saying, Guy. 311 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: Apparently you're the only one who cares about Cody. Only 312 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: one person on the show care that it was Cody Bellinger. 313 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: To turn to turn. 314 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: Hey, oh, Tony can have seven strikeouts in a row 315 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: and I can't. 316 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: Mention it even Hey, man, come on, man, we doing 317 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: the show. Stay focused, Judge, he puts money in Rob's pocket, 318 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: that's why. Oh that wasn't Aaron Judge. My bad like that? Yes, 319 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: you know you didn't exactly because there was Cody Bellinger 320 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: you Oh, never mind, No, I just Tody. I just 321 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: thought he had another home runner. 322 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: I stood up real quick and he sat back round 323 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: the wrong persuasion for the occasion. 324 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: You never saw me get up. Come on, Rob, Ge, 325 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: Yes we have. I'm a reporter. 326 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and we are reporting on you right now 327 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: the show. No, we've been trying to do the show. 328 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: Speaking of reporting, rods getting reported hr for that violation 329 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: right there. 330 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 331 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 332 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 333 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: App Tyreek Hill. 334 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a fun story, but we got 335 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: to talk about it. Actually, as you guys know, he's 336 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: currently going through it with his strange wife and she 337 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: has a legend. In the latest court filings, that he 338 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: committed domestic violence on at least eight separate occasions just 339 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: in the last two years. So he obviously denies all wrongdoing. 340 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: His attorneys say that this is the one big shakedown. 341 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: It's all going to play out here in court. But 342 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: it does add to the laundry list of issues that 343 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill has brought now to the Dolphins organization. Obviously 344 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: last season, some of his social media commentary about Hey, 345 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: I think I missed Patrick Mahomes, Patrickhomes and what could 346 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: have been? And he's throwing these hard emojis on his 347 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: ig story. He's you know, all the way down to 348 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: some of the comments he made about his own team, 349 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: even as recently as in training camp, where he went 350 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: on record and said, hey, maybe we shouldn't give the 351 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: ball to Devon a Chan. Are you running back one 352 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: I have the goal line? Because that's not his game. 353 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: We should bring another guy. And it got to a 354 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: point where to a tongue of bi low I had 355 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: to actually have a private conversation number one and then 356 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: publicly tell the media that, hey, Tyreek has alienated a 357 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: lot of his teammates. He's done and said things he 358 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: knows you shouldn't have done, and it's up to him 359 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: to mend fences. Well, I don't know if this is 360 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: really helping in that regard right now. 361 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Well for me, listen, I haven't I'm gonna act like 362 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm a mathematician. I haven't figured out all the details 363 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: on the financial lens and that matters. So I don't 364 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: want to act like that doesn't matter. 365 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: Right. 366 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: We know this is the cat League, but there's some 367 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: way I have to find out. And sometimes you got 368 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: to just swallow your medicine and do what's best for 369 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: your organization. And I'm I'm interested in moving off, whether 370 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: that be a trade, whether that finding a way if 371 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: I have to release him, because ultimately, here's a couple 372 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: of reasons why. Number one, how long do I even 373 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: have him before something happens where the league says that 374 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: he has you know, we're gonna suspend him two games, 375 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: four games, six games, eight games, whatever it may happen. 376 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: He continues to have these issues. Rob Gi just stated 377 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: the numbers any amount of times. Also, rob g mentioned 378 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: how we see the flirting shooting the dms are and 379 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: the text message and the tweets and the Instagram's back 380 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: to the chiefs and doing all of that. So then 381 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the other issue for me, if I'm Michael McDaniel and 382 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: if I'm anybody in that organization, is let's say he 383 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: stays here. Let's say for whatever reason she recants, they 384 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: don't he doesn't get in any trouble with the league 385 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: or with an investigation outside with police. 386 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 4: How long do I have him? Anyway? 387 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Because what if we're not a great team, what if 388 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: we end up going one in three? Is he out again? 389 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Is he hey, chiefs, I want to come back. I 390 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: need to get out of here. I can't believe I 391 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: decided to come back. 392 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: I'm out. I need freedom. I can't breathe. 393 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: How long before that he came back and he was 394 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: normally a captain. His team chose to not make him 395 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: a captain this year, and you had two all talk 396 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: to him and say yes, And a lot of guys 397 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: said we forgive him because that's what we're supposed to do. 398 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: But it also means he's got to earn our trust. 399 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: That's what tuisaid. And so to me, I'm I'm looking 400 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: at what's best for us, and what's best for us 401 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: is probably to move forward and find something else. Again, 402 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: if it's a trade if he's eligible for a trade meeting, 403 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: nothing happens with the league, then I'm looking at that 404 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: because I don't want to go through the I wonder 405 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: if we're gonna have him the personal issues off the field. Okay, 406 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: on the field, he's not getting enough passes. He went 407 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, he only got a few attempts this, this, 408 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, past attempts this game. If we're gonna lose 409 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: him mentally, he's gonna check out's he not gonna be there. 410 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: So I can't keep playing that game. I want guys 411 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: who are adults on and off the field. And I 412 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: understand we all make mistakes. He's been given that grace, 413 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: but how much more must I extend this grace and 414 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: for the debt to the point where it becomes a 415 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: detriment to my team. That's where I am with Tyreek 416 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: Hill because I just can't keep doing this as I'm 417 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: trying to build continuity, build something, bounce back from a horrid, 418 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: horrid Week one, and move forward. And I'm I'm just 419 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: looking at we may have to his heart, wasn't it. 420 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: He wants to go with Dagan. You know what, Let 421 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: me find a way to make that happen. 422 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just premature. 423 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: You got to be very careful because he hasn't been 424 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 5: convicted of anything. 425 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about the team. 426 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 5: But this is why you're saying this now because of 427 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 5: what just came out. 428 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 4: You didn't say this before the season. You didn't say this. Well, 429 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: I said that last season when he came, when he kept. 430 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: But I'm saying, but this is this is you're saying 431 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 5: now to make a move. You can't make a move 432 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: until this plays out. You need to find out. I'll 433 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 5: never forget Dave Anderson a tremendous sports columnist for the 434 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: New York Times. 435 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: He's passed, but he was a tremendous columnist. 436 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 5: And there were accusations made about Michael Irvin and they 437 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 5: wrote a column in the New York Times that they 438 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: should release them, you know what I mean, and get 439 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 5: rid of them or whatever, only for what do you 440 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: think happened? 441 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: What do you think happened the woman? 442 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 5: We can't and took everything back and knowledge that she 443 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: made it up, so. 444 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 4: And I don't know what the details are whatever. 445 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: So I'm just always careful before if they go to 446 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 5: trial and there's some situation and then you have a 447 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 5: situation where where you can make a call. I'll never 448 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: forget Marv Albert with NBC, and Marv Albert said he 449 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 5: was innocent, remember with the biting the woman in the 450 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 5: whole nine yards And I remember he told him, NBC said, 451 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 5: we'll stand by you as long as you don't cop 452 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: a plea. You said you're innocent, as long as you 453 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: don't cop a plea. Marv went in cop the plea. 454 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 5: And what do you think NBC did? They fired him 455 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 5: right on the spot. So all I'm saying to you is, 456 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 5: this is Tyreek's Hill's resume rap sheet. This ain't even 457 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 5: new when they gave him that big go look at 458 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 5: his college days and what he did. Okay, so now 459 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: you're looking and going, oh, look at him and what 460 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 5: he's to Jude. 461 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: This is what you signed up for when you signed up. 462 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 5: And Rob g correct me if i'm wasn't it like 463 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 5: some pregnant girlfriend he threw down the stairs or there 464 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: was some crazy type behavior back then, and people because 465 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 5: he could play football and catch the football and run 466 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: like a deer, people overlooked that stuff. 467 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: Aaron Hernandez and you know what he was on. 468 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: Some teams do not draft list, and the Patriots said, oh, 469 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 5: look at this guy, We're going to be smarter than 470 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 5: everybody else. And what happened, Oh they talked about they 471 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 5: got they got duped. They didn't get duped. He had 472 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 5: a rap sheet, he had all this other stuff that 473 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 5: people knew about, and all the. 474 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: And then and and it was allegedly punching and choking 475 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: his pregnant girlfriend. 476 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: I knew there was some really bad behavior, and that 477 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 5: didn't stop him, is my point. 478 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: And I'm not making excuse for him. 479 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: All I'm saying is they knew all this kind of stuff, 480 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 5: and we have to wait and see how this thing 481 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 5: plays out. If you just feel like you don't want 482 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: them on a team anymore because of the other stuff, 483 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 5: where I know that would be, that would be fine. 484 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 5: But I'm just saying off of this alone can't be 485 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: the reason why, but that we don't know where we are. 486 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: But that's where we'll fundamentally disagree. Off of this alone, 487 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: I've had enough, period, I had enough of it. 488 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 5: You don't even know if that's so what I'm saying. 489 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: As an organization, I can say I've had enough of headlines. 490 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: If this was his first one, I get you, yo, 491 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: you know something happened, but you signed a ton of headlines, 492 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: right right, don't keep adding if I've said we. 493 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 4: We if this is totally false and they made I'm 494 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 4: asking you want my headlines. I'm saying your wife or quest. 495 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Okay, now what that's fine for me? The census you've 496 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: had enough. There's called grace. People get a lot of 497 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: you know what, stuff happens, and when you you know this, 498 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: when stuff keeps happening to somebody, you go eventually enough 499 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: is enough, period, right And so we already barely wanted 500 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: to bring you back with all that. 501 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: I'm ready to go, trade me, get me out of here. 502 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: T had to have meetings to see how everybody felt 503 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: about it, all right, We had to have. 504 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 5: Presstomas that they wanted to get rid of him. They 505 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 5: could have long gotten rid of them. He could play. 506 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 5: It would have got back, and he didn't want to play. 507 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 5: That's my point. And so at a certain point, how 508 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 5: much longer do I is great? Listen, And this is 509 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 5: where I have to be a prognosticator from the team. 510 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 5: We don't look like we're gonna be a great team. 511 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 5: Do we expect this to be as bad as we? 512 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: One know? 513 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: But when we look up and we're one and four 514 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: or two and five, how long before that ticking bomb 515 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: happens again? He's done it multiple times. Get me out 516 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: of here. I want to be free trade me Hey boo, 517 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City. And you have to be sometimes saying this 518 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: is gonna happen, because this has been the history and 519 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen. 520 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: I might as well get out of this early. 521 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: It's part of my job as a general manager is 522 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: to have to have an overarching view of things. I 523 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: can see this is coming quietly behind doors. We ain't 524 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: as great as we think. 525 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: We are. Losing might be a part of the day, 526 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: the schedule. 527 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: We need to jump ahead of this and see if 528 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: we can look at either get something for him while 529 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: we can before he implodes, or before something happens we 530 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: lose him off the field. 531 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: Stuff