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Committed to memory eight seven, seven ninety nine 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: sixty nine. 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: Why do you like to do new stuff whenever I'm here? 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: That's okay, it's all right. 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: I feel like you just you're making me look bad 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 5: to that. 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're all good, all right. And as always, remember. 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: The Odd Couple was filmed in front of a live audience. 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's go big show and let me welcome 39 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: in colds for today, mister Martin Weiss. Mister Martin Weiss, 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: how are you doing well? Working for my financial independence? 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: On? Is that what you're doing? I'm doing something all right? July? 42 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: Did you guys grill barbecue? Do anything for lunch or 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: just hanging out today? 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: Went for a nice walk. 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 6: That's about it, is that your fourth walk to the 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 6: coffee shop, came back home, read some stuff on the SPN, 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 6: got ready for work, all right, you know that's about it. 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 6: Very effestive for the delight. Yes, you know what I'm doing, 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 6: and I'm going to see a movie in a cemetery tonight. 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: Okay, that's real nice? 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: Is that your fiance that's romantic in the cemetery. 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 6: Hollywood Cemetery they have these like basically outdoor movie showings, and. 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: So she likes to go. Okay, so there we go. 54 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: Is it an old movie or something new relatively old? 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 6: I think it's I think it actually might be Top Gun, 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 6: the first Top gunka so new to you but old 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 6: to everybody else. 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: I've seen Top Gun. Really, Yes, that's surprising. It came 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: out in the eighties, right, Yeah, I was. 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: I went on a date and took somebody's they. 61 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: Used to be there. 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Used to be like dates when you used to go 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: to the movies or I don't know if people do 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: that anymore, but I actually I can remember so many 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: movies where you know that that back in those days, 66 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: you would go out to movies. 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: Now now you just watch The Golden Girls or Perry Mason. 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: There you either one. 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into the Odd Couple crew, because 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: without him. 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: Shae is off producer, Shaye, what's happening? Thanks for joining 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: us here on the holiday. Absolutely. 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: Steve de Sager is at the anchor desk. He'll keep 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: us updated throughout the program. And Saga is our social 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: media guru. He covers social media, uh as he always does. 77 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: He does a great job. And on the ones and twos, 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: there you go, and Mary, of course, our engineer, do 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: want to give a quick little shout out. 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: Devin Henderson is with us. 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: He is uh just graduated from ASU interning at the 82 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: La Daily News. 83 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: That's right, and that's why Shay right your school. 84 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: And yes, indeed, so he's just hanging out with us 85 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: and hanging out for the radio business. But he's a 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: writer and has a bright future in the business. All right, Hey, Martin, 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: let's do this start with the NBA. 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: And I know this is. 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: July fourth, and we do want you to get involved 90 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: on the show. And if you're driving around, I know 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people having barbecues, hanging out with their 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: families and whatnot, but there are people in the car, sure, 93 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: and we would love to hear from you. So when 94 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, when that time comes, please join us. But 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm wondering about a shelf life for players. And Lebron's 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: been in the news, of course, with the idea that 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: he took his money almost fifty three. 98 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: Million dollars, And then. 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: Rich Paul came out and said, he's about winning, and 100 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna monitor the Lakers and what they're doing, and 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: this could be his last year with the Lakers and 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: he could go somewhere else if he wanted to continue 103 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: to play, especially if it looks like the Lakers are 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: going to, you know, build a team around Luca. But 105 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: my thing is, I'm starting to see a lot of 106 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: comments from people about, you know, Lebron fatigue. Can he 107 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: just retire now? You know, stuff like that, like a 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: big volume. And I thought to myself, is there a 109 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: shelf life? Can people get tired of players and players 110 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: get to play longer? 111 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: You know, when you look at players like Larry Bird or. 112 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas, you know those guys played thirteen years. They 113 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: didn't play a long time. Michael Jordan thirteen. Lebron's in it. 114 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: What is this twenty first season coming up? And Tom 115 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: Brady played twenty one or twenty two seasons, Like you start. 116 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: To look at that. Aaron Rodgers I believe is this 117 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: twenty one coming up? 118 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: This is twenty right now, twenty I mean, you know 119 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: people are now twenty where guys played thirteen years, they're playing, 120 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: you know, a third of the time more than guys 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: played in the past. And I think that's where you 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: wind up where people start to take aim at you 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: because you can stick around too long and people get 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: tired of you or don't want to hear enough with 125 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: the Lebron the stories, I know people got tired of 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. 127 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: No matter how great he was. 128 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: There would have detractors who wish he would have retired, 129 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, and then every year was like, he's gonna 130 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: play again, He's gonna come back. Remember that we had 131 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: that with Brett Favre, the same kind of thing, but 132 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: it just got tiring. And I feel that way with 133 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I think there are a lot of people 134 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: who would rather him just retire and not play. And 135 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 1: I think he will retire. I do believe that after 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: this season with Pittsburgh, so that'll probably be the end 137 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: of it. 138 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: But where are you on players having a shelf life 139 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: and fans tired of Lebron Do you think most fans 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: want to see Lebron continue to play as long as 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: he can, or would most rather him bow out. 142 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 6: I don't think that players have a shelf life in 143 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 6: terms of Darren like, your shelf life is when you 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 6: can no longer compete at a high level. To me, 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 6: the thing that gets you with Lebron or a Brady 146 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: or a Rogers in that it's the dance up. Am 147 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 6: I playing this year? Am I coming back this year? 148 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 6: We got to improve the team build around me. That 149 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 6: general attitude, Like for Steph, like no one is saying 150 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 6: that Steph Curry is overstayed, is welcome. He's just as 151 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 6: old as these guys, Like no one is saying that 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 6: about Steph. 153 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: How many years does he plays? Has it been twenty? 154 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: Hasn't been? 155 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Steph curse thirty six years old? So I mean he's right, 156 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: but he's not. Lebron's forty going to be forty one, right, right? 157 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Rogers my point, But I think there comes a time 158 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: like Steph's not there yet, right If he started at 159 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: twenty two, he's got fourteen years, fifteen years something like that, 160 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: So we not. 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 6: It's about how you act. It's about how you act, 162 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 6: and it's how you interact with the media. It's about 163 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 6: how you interact with your teammates, about how you interact 164 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 6: with everybody else the other. Tim Duncan, I'm not exactly 165 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 6: sure how long his career was, but when it was 166 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: time for him to go and he and he retired, 167 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 6: nobody that year was like, man, if we don't Tim 168 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 6: Duncan's just got to get out of the league. That 169 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 6: wasn't the case. But like the idea that Lebron right 170 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 6: now is kind of being disingenuous, like you locked in 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 6: for this fifty one point three or whatever point six 172 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 6: million dollars option and now are playing basically the same playbook. 173 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 6: It feels at least it could be the same paybook 174 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 6: that we've seen several times throughout his career, and at 175 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 6: a certain point in time, there's an annoyance of dude, 176 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 6: sometimes only the top of the guys at the top 177 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 6: can do this, and I'd say Lebron is no longer 178 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 6: necessarily at the top. But you also have to understand 179 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 6: the market around you, where if you're the Lakers, you're 180 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 6: one hundred percent about to build around Luca Doncons who 181 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 6: you just traded for. 182 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: Like guys only twenty five years Oh right, you had 183 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: the Anthony Davis Lebron era. 184 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: You traded away one of those pieces, and just even 185 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 6: if it wasn't Luca, if it wasn't five times all NBA, 186 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 6: if it wasn't a finals appearance before twenty six years old, 187 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 6: if it wasn't that you broke up the pairing that 188 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 6: you built to win championships to bring in somebody else. Generally, 189 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 6: you're gonna build around the new piece unless you're unless 190 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 6: you're just you know, tanking to try to get a 191 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 6: new draft pick. 192 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 193 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I think Lebron also hurts himself the longer he plays 194 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: and doesn't win. I do because you start to look 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: at the years piling up and you still have the 196 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: four chanceampionships and you start looking around and you say, well, 197 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: Steph has that, you know, like it's not special, Like 198 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: if he plays twenty four or twenty five years, right, 199 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, could he play two more years but 200 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: he got twenty. 201 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, but that still doesn't take away to me the 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 6: way he was able to play at his prime. 203 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not the same prime. And I'm gonna 204 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: say this because people talk about his numbers. Look at 205 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: his plus minus. He was like one of the worst players. 206 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: So I get it. It's easier to score in the 207 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: NBA than ever before. So when you look at his numbers, 208 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: they're inflated. They're not like real numbers to me, because 209 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: everybody can score and you can't play defense against people. 210 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: You can't touch people. So Lebron is able to score. 211 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't have that issue. But if you're looking at 212 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: plus minus and what he does on the last year, 213 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: he was like one of the worst players in the league, 214 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: even in the playoffs. I think he was minus fifty 215 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: three when he was on the court. So what is 216 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: his real impact? Not just looking at raw numbers you 217 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: think he's the same players he was ten years ago. 218 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: No, but that's not what I said. 219 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 6: I said, what's happening right now doesn't invalidate ten years ago. 220 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: I'm not validating any conference on lock. Well, he had 221 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 3: no other everybody else was on his team. 222 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: Who was it in the way he was in the 223 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 6: Eastern Conference finals for a decade like he had the 224 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 6: Eastern Conference on lock. That doesn't change what's happening right now, 225 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 6: doesn't change that to me, at least, it doesn't invalidate that. 226 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: To me, I'm not I didn't say validate anything. I'm 227 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: just saying, I don't think he's the same player. 228 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: He's not ten years old. That's not expecting him to 229 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: be the same. 230 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I know what, people look at the numbers and they 231 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: keep saying twenty five and eight, you know, like Kelvin 232 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and I argue all the time. 233 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: Kelvin doesn't look at anything else other than those. 234 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: Numbers, and he says, oh, well, Lebron is one of 235 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: I think he said, one of the top ten players 236 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: in the league. 237 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: I don't think he is. 238 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 6: Well, he's definitely not one of the worst players in 239 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 6: the league with what you said, and he's not probably 240 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 6: not one of the top seven players in the league. 241 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 6: I can hear an argument for ten, but the idea 242 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 6: where he's like one of the worst players I can't 243 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 6: get with. That is the issue is now, it's the 244 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 6: fifty one million dollars. Ron was playing for fourteen million 245 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 6: dollars the mid level exception, we wouldn't be having this conversation. 246 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think Lebron probably should have bowed 247 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: out already. But I get it with the son, he 248 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: wanted to hang around for that and that was one 249 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: of his reasonings. And now as you go forward, it 250 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: just seems weird to me that you would want to 251 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: stick around and then, you know, take all the money. 252 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: And I'm just saying he's entitled to whatever he wants, 253 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: but what is the motivation? 254 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: What is he playing for? If you don't have a 255 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: chance to win and you're. 256 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: That age and the idea is more than anything, you 257 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: were chasing this Michael Jordan ghost of trying to get 258 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: to six championships. 259 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: That's what I don't understand. 260 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: Well, he's playing for the fifty one million dollars that 261 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 6: would be enough to get me to lay some up 262 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 6: one more time to make one. 263 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the playing without would you want 264 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: to have a chance to win? Like at this age 265 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: he's a billionaire, I'm not pulling the money. Anybody else 266 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 1: I would tell you should always take the money and 267 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: play for it. But when you get to this level, 268 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: to me, it can't be just oh, I want a 269 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: fifty one million dollar payroll because payday. Here's the other thing. 270 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: Nobody in the league is interested in Lebron James. Despite 271 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: his numbers, No one's at that at that figure. 272 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the figure that's you said, despite his numbers, 273 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 6: The number that matters is the fifty one million if 274 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 6: lebron that's kind of where it gets to the all right, 275 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 6: Rich Paul, you come up with this statement, all right, 276 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 6: roll my eyes at this, because you could have opted out, 277 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 6: and sure, nobody has massive cap space. Nobody was gonna 278 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 6: sign him for fifty one million dollars. But there's plenty 279 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 6: a mid level of mid level exceptions out there, both 280 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 6: taxpayer and non taxpayer, that. 281 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: He could be on a different team right now if 282 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: he wanted to be. Yeah, yeah, just it's surprise. Tag. 283 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, people would have taken him for a decent price. 284 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: But I see where he I don't see him going anywhere. 285 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't see how he could possibly be anywhere but 286 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: the Lakers because of that price. 287 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: Tag. So do you think this just gut, is this 288 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: his last year? 289 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: I' no, I don't, okay, just gut reaction. I'm not 290 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 6: no lean know anything. I don't think it's his last 291 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: year unless they go on like some magical run. 292 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: If I put it like this, if he's not a Laker, 293 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: it's definitely not his last year, Okay, all right? 294 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven 295 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Are you tired 296 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: of Lebron, Like, seriously, athletes, do you like it when 297 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: they hang on and play as long as they can? 298 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Are you from that school, the old school of they 299 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: got to rip the uniform off of me? Or do 300 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: you think that there's a time and you should know 301 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: when it's time to bow out? To get tired of 302 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: the same stories, tired of talking about somebody you know? 303 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: For two decades, we're still talking about the same guy. 304 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: And I remember when Tom Brady retired as far as 305 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: the media, it was great, like can we move on 306 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: to somebody else now and talk about somebody else? It 307 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: had gotten to the point where it's absolutely ridiculous. I 308 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: feel the same here with Lebron. But all right, eight seven, 309 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox, we want to hear from you. 310 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Where are you Lebron players sticking around too long? Should 311 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: they know when it's time to bounce out or not? 312 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: It is the odd couple On a Funky Flashback Friday, 313 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: Rob Parker Martin Wei's inn for Kelvin Washington right here 314 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. 315 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 7: Stick and stay unless you aren't tired of Lebron. 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Devin Booker and just to you know, what's 349 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: happening with the Sun. So we'll catch up with him 350 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: as well. Our number two want to talk about baseball. 351 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: This is like the. 352 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: Unofficial halfway point of the Major League Baseball season, fourth 353 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: of July and you start talking about the MVP race. 354 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge in the American League, not that Cole Raley 355 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: isn't there as well. For the Mariners, Martin Witt is 356 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: what two more home runs? 357 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: Today? Got thirty five? Judge has thirty two. 358 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: But Judge is batting three sixty something, you know, and 359 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: having an unbelievable year. 360 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 3: At the play. So it's not just home runs. 361 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, he's also hitting for average, and we're seeing 362 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: average and power and all the other stuff that goes 363 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: there where Riley is just Kyle. Riley is pounding the 364 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: ball up thirty five home runs at the halfway point, 365 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: and we still got about a week or so before 366 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: the actual All Star Game. 367 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: Could he get the forty or almost? Which is incredible. 368 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, I want to talk about the show hal 369 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: Tani and the National League MVP, And there was a 370 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: recent poll done and when it came to the American 371 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: League MVP MLB experts, there were forty three of the 372 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: Martin and thirty five gave Aaron Judge the first place vote. 373 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: Thirty five of the forty three. When it came to 374 00:18:53,560 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: the American League show, Hay actually got third nine of 375 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: the first place votes. Okay, And I'm not so sure 376 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: he's having that type of season. And what I mean 377 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: by that is last year was so incredible. He batted 378 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: three ten fifty, had over fifty home runs, fifty stolen bases. 379 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: Nobody had ever done that, knocked in one hundred and 380 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: thirty runs, and I just wonder, like when it comes 381 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: to show Hey, have we jumped the shark? And he's 382 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: gonna get it every year. Remember last year he did 383 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: not pitch, but he had a ridiculous year and the 384 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: fifty stolen bases is the one that added a new 385 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: dimension to what he does. Is it fair to just 386 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: every year say he's gonna be the MVP because now 387 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: this year he's pitching. Because he pitches and he hits, 388 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: and should other people be in the mix? Or because 389 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: he does both he automatically is his to lose every year? 390 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Because that's what it feels like. He's batting two eighty 391 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: four fifty six RBIs. RBIs are down, batting averages down. 392 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, he doesn't. 393 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: He doesn't. He doesn't feel like the player that he 394 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 3: was a year ago. I mean, that's fine. 395 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 6: He also is the best player in the National League 396 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 6: right now, like he's Lesion Allen Homers slugging ops run scored, 397 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 6: and I think the RBI is more of a function 398 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 6: of the back of the Dodgers lineup, and in fact, he's 399 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 6: hitting leadoff. 400 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: Think about it, He's hit thirty leadoff one time in 401 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: the game. 402 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: Okay, but the back of the lineup, the seven eight, 403 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 6: nine hitters are obviously not if he was hitting fourth 404 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 6: in front of if he's hitting behind Mookie Betts, Will 405 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 6: Smith and Freddie Freeman, he'd have way more rbs. But 406 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 6: he's got a hitting behind Tommy Edmond and uh well, 407 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: last year. 408 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: He did that and they had he had one hundred 409 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: and thirty RBIs. 410 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 6: It's also halfway through the year right now, so he's 411 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 6: got fifty six. 412 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: He's got fifty. 413 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: But like so because we're past the eighty one mark, right, 414 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: but well, I would not blink twice if show your 415 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: tiny finished with over one hundred RBI. He's got thirty 416 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: home runs in fifty six RBI to be like, that's 417 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: like he's. 418 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: Which is ridiculous. 419 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: That means that most of his home runs are solo 420 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: home run, right, So listen to me. That's a function 421 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: of the people in front of him being on base 422 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: less the actual what he's doing. If he's on pace, 423 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: he's got how many I've said thirty a bunch of 424 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: times now it's actually, yeah, thirty. 425 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 6: So he's on pace. Toy hit what fifty seven home runs? 426 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 6: Like if he has fifty seven home runs and hits 427 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 6: two seventy two, seventy five. 428 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: Seventy to eighty two seventy Yeah, because he was. 429 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: Three ten last year. He doesn't have how many stolen bases. 430 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it at the last year was a mode. 431 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at who else? Am I looking at Pete 432 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: Carl Armstrong, Kyle Tucker? 433 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: But I'm Cubs. 434 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 6: I'm not looking at you one of those guys in 435 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 6: terms of like, first of all, they kind of still 436 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 6: votes from each other. 437 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: But I'm not looking at what they're doing about Juan Sota. 438 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: If he's turned it up in the second half, is 439 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: it possible. I'm just asking if the Mets make a run, 440 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: he's got twenty one home runs. 441 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well if if. But also it's the most valuable 442 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: player for the whole season. 443 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 6: Juan Soda was a mystery man for the first what 444 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 6: twenty five games of the year. But that's why it's 445 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 6: that's why El Tany is far and away the NL favorite. 446 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 6: It's it's a lack of competition. 447 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: Do you think though, I still think that it has 448 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: more to do with him being the dual threat and 449 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: they don't even look. And I'm not saying he's not 450 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: doing anything, Don't get me wrong, That's not what I'm saying, 451 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: I think that because he pitches and hits, people just 452 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: think he's the MVP regardless. I mean the way it 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: just feels like that not based off and it shouldn't 454 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: be a fourgone conclusion that because he's gonna win the 455 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: MVP the next ten years in a row if he 456 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: does both or next eight in a row. I just 457 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I find that to be I think there's gotta be 458 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: something where you look at. 459 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: His numbers from year to year. Was it good as good? 460 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: Was it worse? You know what I mean? Obviously the 461 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: other players got to be a ball. That's what I'm saying. 462 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: He's not eating against himself for MVP. 463 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 6: It's not is this show heal Tony's best year is 464 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 6: shoe hel Tany the best player in the National League. 465 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: But I'll give you a valuable player in the National League. 466 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: And I'll give you a perfect example. What year wasn't 467 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan the MVP in the NBA. I mean, his 468 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: numbers couldn't have been more consistent. And that's all I'm saying. 469 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 6: So I think guys got it wrong, Like the same 470 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 6: reason I think Lebron having the numbers of MVPs he 471 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 6: has is laughable as well. 472 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: I think guys got it wrong. You think Lebron should 473 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: have how many? 474 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 6: I think for the last when Lebron was not the 475 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 6: last few years, No, No, when Lebron the end of 476 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 6: his first Cleveland run to through Miami to back to Cleveland. 477 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 6: I don't think there was a better player in the NBA. 478 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 6: So if your argument is should the best player and 479 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 6: always win the MVP, there you got. I would say, 480 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 6: I think guys got it wrong, like I think they 481 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 6: got it wrong with they got it wrong with Lebron. 482 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: See that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 483 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: In those situations, great players, Michael didn't win it every 484 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: year even though he would. I don't know who is 485 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: better during his run. Maybe somebody had a great year. 486 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm trying to say is with the show, Hey, 487 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what anybody else is doing, or if 488 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: his numbers are as good as it was the year before. Whatever, 489 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: they look at it and tell me if I'm wrong 490 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: eight seven seven ninety nine Fox. But I just get 491 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: the feeling like it doesn't matter what he does, he pitches, 492 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: he hits, he's gonna get my vote for MVP because 493 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: nobody he's a unicorn because nobody does it. 494 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: I don't think that's fair to the rest of the players. 495 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: I really problem is school he may be a unicorn. 496 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: What about tark skoobl and the year is having or 497 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: a Schemes who's not hitting gookins. 498 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 6: That's the thing, though, That's the thing, you know what 499 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 6: I mean? Or a picture of that, but the thing. 500 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 6: That's the thing though. Okay, so somebody who's dominating and pitching. Yes, 501 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 6: if he's pitching, and we'll see o Tiny ramp it 502 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 6: up down the stretch, and if he's pitching X y 503 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: Z better than otany and like Otiny's numbers on the 504 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 6: offensive side of the ball are worthy, which they obviously are. 505 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: What he does, he get hurt if he doesn't pitch, Well, 506 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: say he loses a few games, he gets knocked around. 507 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you think that if. 508 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 6: He plays worse than he shouldn't be atop the NL 509 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 6: MVP odds. 510 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: But I agree. But if his offense. 511 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 6: Is is like, if he's leading the National League in 512 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 6: several offensive categories and the other people in consideration aren't close, 513 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 6: he's got like thirteen more home runs than Tucker and 514 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 6: Armstrong like, he's not Crow Armstrong like, he's not close 515 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 6: in that regard. And on top of that, he is 516 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 6: warming up to pitch. If he turns out and gets 517 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 6: knocked around, it has an ERA of seven and is 518 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 6: zero for five for the Dodgers, then I don't think 519 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 6: his pitching would quantify in that counting. 520 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 3: But he's the hitting still. 521 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 6: Should and right now, even if he decided never to 522 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 6: pitch again this season, I think he has a strong 523 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 6: argument to. 524 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: Be the MVP. 525 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: I think if he doesn't pitch that people would be 526 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: more apt to look at other people. I think as 527 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: long as he pitches, he'll always be award to win, 528 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: and and somebody would have to beat him out. I 529 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: don't believe that, and I don't think that that's I 530 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: don't think it should I don't think it should be 531 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: like that. 532 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think it should be like that. 533 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: I think you should look at. 534 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Every year individually and not we understand he's a great player, 535 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: and and if he stays healthy and continues on his 536 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: path a Hall of Famer and all that other stuff. 537 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: That is not my argument eight seven seven ninety nine. 538 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 3: On Fox. 539 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: My argument is, is it just a foregone conclusion. You 540 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: know that he's gonna be the MVP because he does 541 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: two things and nobody else does that. 542 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: And is that fair? Do you feel like that's fair 543 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: to everybody else? 544 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: There's nobody else doing that, So is he automatically the MVP? 545 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: That's that's what that's the That's what I'm trying to 546 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: get because that's what it feels like to me now, 547 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: is like there's no way to unseat him if he's 548 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: doing both. 549 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: His offense is enough. He doesn't need to do bow like. 550 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 6: His offense isn't nothing. 551 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I think if he's not pitching it, Martin, it would 552 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: be it would be up more, up more up to 553 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: debate if he if he wasn't. 554 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 6: Pitching's first in ops, first in home run, second in triples, 555 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 6: Like he's just hitting the cover off of the ball. 556 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: He's not first in RBS's not first in batting average. 557 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: There's all the stag But if you're first in home 558 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 6: runs and second in triples, whose fault is it? If 559 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 6: you're like he's clearing the bases, He's cleared the base 560 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 6: is nearly forty times in at bats. 561 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: That to me is what is his batting average? Runners 562 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: in scoring position, because that's a more accurate. When people 563 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: say it's the bottom of the order. You got to 564 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: act like he's never up with anybody on base, or 565 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: is he just hitting home runs? 566 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: Are there more to challenge him when there's nobody on base. 567 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 6: I'll have his numbers in running and scoring position when 568 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 6: we come back from the break. 569 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: But I know this the number for home runs atop 570 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: the NL. 571 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: The numbers for triples right there, So if it's runners 572 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: of scoring position, they're not there. 573 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: Forty eight bats he's clear the basis eight seven, seven 574 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 3: ninety nine. On Fox? Is it fair? Shay? I know? 575 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: Is it? Thinks it's fair? Right? 576 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Show he should be MVP every year. I'm not with it. 577 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: I think it should be not just based on him 578 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: being a unicorn. It's gotta be based on how he 579 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: performs that year. 580 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: It's not a. 581 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: Lifetime achievement award. Come on, man. I'm not saying he 582 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve it this year if he plays better, but 583 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it shouldn't be automatic. And that's what 584 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: it feels like to me. If I'm wrong, I want 585 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: to hear from you. It is the odd couple on 586 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: a funky flashback Friday, Rob Parker, Martin weiss In for 587 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio. 588 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: Two eighty six with runners on. Okay, that's not that impressive. 589 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 7: Stick and stay unless you're a show heo tany hater 590 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 7: in the USA. 591 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 592 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 593 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 594 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 595 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: Yes, it's my pleasure to be here to entertain the 596 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: masses on a fourth of July. I wouldn't miss it 597 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: for the world. Shae, don't roll your eyes at me. 598 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. It is The Odd Couple. We are live. 599 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: You hear this? Mike, Yes? 600 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: Is this on? 601 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: It is on? 602 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: Rob Parker, Martin weiss In for Kelvin Washington, Kelvin Off 603 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: with the Family, Rob g Off, Alex Off, everybody off. 604 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: That's okay. Right after. 605 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Right after the show, our podcast will be going up. 606 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: And if you missed any of today's show, be sure 607 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: to listen to the podcast. Just search Odd Couple wherever 608 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, and uh be sure to follow 609 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: and review the podcast and rate it at least five Stars. 610 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: You know why, Shay, cause we'll white it's right five 611 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: stars again. Just search Odd Couple wherever you get your 612 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: podcasts and you'll find today's show and the best of 613 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: version posted right after we get off the air. 614 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: Coming up in about twenty seven minutes. 615 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: It's Mark Funky Cole Madina, of course, a Fox Sports 616 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Radio NBA insider. He joins us and also last call 617 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: in case you can't get in or you haven't been 618 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: able to get in, you'll have a chance at the 619 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: very end of the show to be the last call 620 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: on this very program. And Martin Weiss, the show is 621 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: flying by on this holiday. 622 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: Which is cool. I never. 623 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: I've never been against working on the holidays. Actually, I 624 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: think it's easier to work on the holidays. 625 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: Depends on which holiday he is and what I at 626 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: which one. 627 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it's it's all about that if I 628 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: don't have anything going on, I'm working on a holiday 629 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: because it doesn't make sense for me to just sit 630 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: on the couch today, even though they would have paid me. 631 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: Now I can work easier to get here, you know, 632 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: less stuff going on, and then I get a comp 633 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: day to go do something when I really want to 634 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: use it. 635 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 6: So this is what I'll pull back the curtain for 636 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 6: everybody who's not familiar with Rob Parker's strategy. Christmas got 637 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 6: no use for it, Thanksgiving, no time for it. Fourth 638 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 6: of July is about the last because this is when 639 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 6: the baseball tour starts. All these comp days, and so 640 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 6: that way I can go, or he could go to 641 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 6: watch the Reds in Cincinnati, then the Tigers in Detroit, 642 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 6: then the Twins in Minneapolis, and then what's another team 643 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 6: of the Rockies in Denver, and then the Diamondbacks in 644 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 6: Arizona and then up the you know from San Diego 645 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 6: to watch the Padres, Angels, Dodgers, all the way up 646 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 6: to the Giants of the Mariners in fourteen days. 647 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: It's because he works for all the holidays. 648 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 6: He uses all the comp days, so that way he 649 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 6: could take off, you know August fourth, Oh. 650 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 5: He's gonna be going the whole entire August. 651 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this August is going to be. 652 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, between the NABJ National Association of Black Journalists and 653 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: I have so much time. Last year they forced me 654 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: to take off because they said I was going to 655 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: lose the time. So I'm going to take off in August, 656 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: right before we get ready for football season and whatnot. 657 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking in. 658 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: August August August August. 659 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: Was like two and a half a world tour basically, 660 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: and boy and the other thing too. 661 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: The last thing is before we get into our topic, 662 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: do you think Martin, I'll be able to do this. 663 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: I want to go dark for three days. I want 664 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: to go to Hawaii. I'm going to plug my phone in, 665 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: turn it off, just let it charge, talk to my 666 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: family and friends, and say, anybody that really needs me, 667 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: call the hotel. Here's a hotel number. If there's an emergency, 668 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: you call. But other than that, I will have no 669 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: outside content. 670 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 3: Who are you? Okay by myself, I'm just gonna go. 671 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 6: But I don't even know if a hotel even has 672 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 6: that apparatus in place anymore. What what somebody could call 673 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 6: you like to take, like to take and deliver a message? No, 674 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 6: but I mean if I have a blinking light on 675 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 6: the phone said like A. 676 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. I've stayed in a hotel, yes, a 677 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: couple of days. I don't even think. 678 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 6: There was I'm trying to remember there was even if 679 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 6: there was a phone in the room, there was. 680 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: A phone I just had them call me to wake 681 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: me up make sure I miss my flight. Like they 682 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: still do the wake up calls, they still give you messages. 683 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: My point is, do you think I'm gonna be able 684 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: to survive for three days without any contact on social media, phone, three. 685 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 5: Hours on the show, without being on your phone. 686 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 3: I could do it easily, without a doubt, without a doubt. Shay, 687 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: you can too. 688 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, No, easy, easy, especially if I'm on vacation. Easy. 689 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 6: I have not not I say I would have anxiety 690 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 6: knowing I had somewhere to be or something. 691 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 9: Yeah, Like if I'm at work, then I'm gonna be like, oh, 692 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 9: I'm gonna check my phone. But if I'm like gone 693 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 9: on vacation, I got nowhere to be. I'm chilling like 694 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 9: I don't want to look at my phone. 695 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 3: It's easy. You'll have a good time. You don't even 696 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: think about your phone. 697 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: Well, see, and everybody gets on me about my phone. 698 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: But I'm getting information and knowledge. 699 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: I'm not. 700 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 7: I'm not talking to you, know, dang well you're texting 701 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 7: Lady's stop it. 702 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: It's just it's just knowledge, all right, Mar We're gonna 703 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: finish up this final hour to program. 704 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: You feel like Okay, I got it. I got it. 705 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 6: So Grant Williams was on a podcast. Uh you know 706 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 6: what what is it called? It's done by actually one 707 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 6: of my USC cohort, like one of my classmates, and 708 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 6: I've randomly saw her posters on Instagram. 709 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: Well, now you're a USC guy, not a Michigan guy. 710 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: Does does the master trump the underground? 711 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 6: I'm just asking, no, the connection that I had with 712 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 6: one of Lachelle's Smith as I met her at us C. No, 713 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 6: I'm just asking I got the football team I root 714 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 6: for the answers Michigan. If you asked me where I 715 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 6: went to college and met Michelle Smith at the us C. 716 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: What school? When you talk to people, what school do 717 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 3: you say you went to? Miss where I went to school? 718 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm not you. 719 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 6: I don't do that dance of like, oh my more 720 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 6: impressive quote unquote. 721 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 3: School you're talking about? Undergrad is where you went to school? 722 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm a undergrad? Is where you went to see I'm 723 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 3: a Southern Connecticut guy. What are you talking about? 724 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, I'm not at Southern Connecticut State University in 725 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: New Haven, Connecticut. 726 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 5: Where'd you get your undergrad? 727 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: Though? That's why I got onto that. 728 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 5: So when people ask you where'd you go to school, 729 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 5: you say that. 730 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: I went to Missouri. 731 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I say I went to Southern Connecticut 732 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: and Columbia. 733 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: Those are the two schools I went to. All right, 734 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: you're ready. Yes. 735 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 6: So Lachelle Smith had Grant Williams on her podcast, and 736 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 6: on this podcast, Grant Williams said, you know, basically, all 737 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 6: this conversation has been the players have been getting taken 738 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 6: to the cleaners in this new CBA, this new second apron. 739 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 3: Well, who signed, who signed that agreement the CBA, He's 740 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: one of the people. That's what I'm saying that I'm 741 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: just I'm setting it just kills me, like the union, 742 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: you agree to this, go ahead. 743 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 6: So he's saying that basically, and he goes and brings 744 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 6: up a talking point that I've heard Adam Silver say 745 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 6: several times across like different places. And to me, this 746 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 6: shows that the nf the NBA Players Association, the Players Union, 747 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 6: which is one of the stronger ones in professional sports, 748 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 6: got taken to the cleaners. For sure, because I first 749 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 6: heard Adam Silver say this on breakfast Ball, the show 750 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 6: on that FS one. 751 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: I never missed breakfast Ball. 752 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 6: If we're going to have a Super Bowl and it's 753 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 6: Packers verse Deelers. 754 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: You guys will celebrate that. 755 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 6: No one would talk about Pittsburgh being a small market 756 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 6: or green Bay being a small market. It's been intentional 757 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 6: to create a CBA that allows more teams to compete. 758 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 6: Grant then said this is from breakfast a month and 759 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 6: a half ago. Grant Williams said yesterday on this podcast 760 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 6: that you know between the second apron being the way 761 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 6: it is, and between the second apron being the way 762 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 6: it is and parody being the way it is, that 763 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 6: it's easier now for NFL. Like the NFL parody is 764 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 6: the reason why people are locked in, and now the 765 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 6: NBA is gonna have more parody because of it, and 766 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 6: also saying that these taxes help benefit basketball because if 767 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 6: you look at baseball, baseball pays there. You know, they 768 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 6: can just pay for whatever they're looking for. Right in 769 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 6: terms of the Dodgers, Yankees, whoever, the highest paid teams 770 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 6: of the teams that end up in the World Series 771 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 6: are the ones that are the most successful. And my 772 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 6: whole thing is why if you are basketball, are you 773 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 6: trying to be like any other like you should not 774 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 6: be like baseball? You should not be like football. The 775 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 6: thing that why baseball works the way it does is 776 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 6: because in the the big one hundred and sixty two 777 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 6: inventory of the regular season, you have to have these 778 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 6: big event feeling type of moments where you have five 779 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 6: three all stars on one side, three all stars on 780 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 6: the other side. Let's watch them play a weekend series. 781 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 6: When the Dodgers play the Yankees, people are locked in. 782 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 6: When the Dodgers go play the Padres, people are locked 783 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 6: in because those are big names, big series. Might lose 784 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 6: a little bit on the on the Rockies the Rockies 785 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 6: White Sox game today, but the reality is that's the 786 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 6: way baseball is going to have to be. 787 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 3: In football, it's. 788 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 6: The scarcity of games is the reason why it matters, 789 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 6: because you could be seven and five or five and 790 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 6: seven and still make a run because you're only playing 791 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 6: seventeen games. The NBA needs to find its own way 792 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 6: instead of trying to copy what made other sports popular. 793 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 3: And it's just it's just whacked to me. 794 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: I didn't buy his comparison because under breakfast ball, I 795 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: don't know what they said or follow up the small market. 796 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: He could say, the Packers, what do you say the Packers. 797 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: And so those are two storied franchises, okay, like Story. 798 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: OKC and Indiana. They haven't won anything. 799 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: Like it's not a fair comparison to look at the 800 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: markets and say, well it was those teams playing, you 801 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't think anything of it. 802 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: Well, there's a big difference. 803 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: And in the NBA's history, would you call the Spurs 804 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: a great organization? 805 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 3: Right? 806 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: They won five championship in twenty tes okay, and they 807 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: have three of the lowest rated NBA finals. Why why 808 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: could they weren't a good team? No, it's small markets 809 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: matter in the NBA. We just watched the lowest rated 810 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: NBA finals since the since the COVID. But I don't 811 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: even I disagree with that premise because when so like 812 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: you think about this, I'm thirty five, okay, so that 813 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: for the majority of my life I should have said 814 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: the majority I said a third of my life. Cleveland 815 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: was the epicenter of the NBA, and nobody was crying 816 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: for Cleveland. 817 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: But nobody was saying. 818 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, got get if you have an old 819 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: you have an all time you have an all time 820 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: great because I can. 821 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 3: Get because no point on it. If you have an 822 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: all time great and a small well. 823 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: Most people don't have an all time I'm just saying 824 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: the market size does matter. I'll give you a better one. 825 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: The New Jersey Nets went to two finals. They're part 826 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: of the worst rated finals too when they played. The 827 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: reason is that they're in New Jersey, but they were 828 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: considered a small market because they don't have a television 829 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: market Martin. 830 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 3: They don't have a big enough fan base. So they 831 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 3: got to the finals. 832 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 1: They had an exciting team, carried kittles, all the stuff, 833 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: and they still didn't rate. 834 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 6: Right because they didn't have an all time great or 835 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 6: sustained period. 836 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: Because I'm talking about the market size. 837 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: The Cleveland was different from the standpoint, but Lebron left 838 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: there because he felt he couldn't get anybody to come 839 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: supposedly to Cleveland, right, and that wasments. 840 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: But that's not what they're talking about. 841 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 6: They're talking about people having the ability to compete because 842 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 6: of parody, not because like, oh you can't get this 843 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 6: guy to come here. You are in this point the 844 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 6: ratings are so low, Like if you have the stars, 845 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 6: if you have people who deem to be the best 846 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 6: in this sport, and those stars are also charismatic, I 847 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 6: think that's the biggest problem that's come across the NBA 848 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 6: in the last five years. Giannis is the most decently charismatic, 849 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 6: but Jokic is boring and has no interest in being 850 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 6: on television and being an entertainer. 851 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: Like Steph Curry. 852 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 6: You know, he's as an entertaining style of play, but 853 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 6: I would not say he is an entertaining personality. He's 854 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 6: I would I'm not calling Steph an entertaining personality. 855 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 3: He's boring. Yeah, his style of play is not boring. 856 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 6: But in terms of the personality, Anthony Edwards to me, 857 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 6: he has a ton of personality and an exciting style 858 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 6: of play. 859 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 3: And but you look at the Packers. 860 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 6: What made the Packers the packers for Adam Silver or 861 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 6: what makes the small market franchises that are pillars in 862 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 6: the NFL the pillars that they are. 863 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 3: It's historically they had the success. 864 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 6: The first two MVPs were from Green Bell, the first 865 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 6: two Super Bowls were won in green and they have 866 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 6: been a contender. 867 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: Like oh, but that's not the point that I'm making 868 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: built But to the point, that's what built them up. 869 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, right, but you can't. 870 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: But you can't look at Indiana that's never won anything, 871 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: or or okay, see that's a new franchise, and put 872 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: them on par with the Steelers and with the Packers, 873 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: and saying just going by markets because it's not just that. 874 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: Uh they thought that. 875 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: A perfect example is Jacksonville was supposed to be the Packers. 876 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh you're able to do it in green Bay, right, 877 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 1: with a small market, So let's go put a team 878 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Has it been as successful. No, that's why 879 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: they played three of their games in Europe every year 880 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: because they can't sell tickets, and and it's it's a 881 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: small market and they haven't won, and they haven't been 882 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: able to sustain success. 883 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 9: Wait you think that they the only reason they're in 884 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 9: Europe is because they can't sell tickets. 885 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 3: Oh, that's part of it. It's a big reason. No, 886 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: it's it is that they picked them. But the owner 887 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 3: also to London. Oh yeah, I get that. 888 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, but I'm saying for them to have three games, 889 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 1: they've had way more than anybody because they don't sell 890 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 1: they don't do well there. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. 891 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: In Jacksonville, right, that was a model. Green Bay was 892 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be the model for why Jacksonville would work. 893 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: And I bet you if you told them if they 894 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: could move somewhere else, they probably would at this point. 895 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 3: All right? 896 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven 897 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: nine nine. 898 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 3: Six sixty three sixty nine. 899 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 6: Your your question is should the should the NBA try 900 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 6: to be more like the NFL or like Major League 901 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 6: Baseball and in that trying to enhance the parody like 902 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 6: the NFL has are trying to eliminate some of these 903 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 6: for Peter taxes and luxury taxes that exist are make 904 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 6: those peniments so punitive that you don't see the stars 905 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 6: lining up. You look at the Dodgers, they have five 906 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 6: All Stars or six All Stars. 907 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 3: The NBA says that's a bad thing. Do you agree? 908 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox, It is the 909 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: couple Rob Parker Martin Weiss on a funky flashback Friday. 910 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 3: Right here on Fox Sports Radio, Stick and Stay America