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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hutse go, Let's go,

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Speaker 1: Let's go. I like it out like the Giants bubbling,

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Speaker 1: give me some jobs.

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Speaker 2: Part of the Giants podcast network, Let's Roll.

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Speaker 1: It's always great to see Giants wide receiver and Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl legend a Keem Nick's here at training camp.

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Speaker 3: I came.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I was really impressed with.

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Speaker 1: You just told me a fan came by and brought

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Speaker 1: you a ticket stop from the game in which you

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Speaker 1: scored your first touchdown. That's amazing. That's the kind of

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Speaker 1: loyalty Giants fans have.

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, that's the little too that they have. Man

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Speaker 2: that I was just telling you. At every event like this,

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Speaker 2: every year I come out, I always get something special

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Speaker 2: that I could take back to my man cave man

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Speaker 2: the personal items. So shout out to the Giants fans

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Speaker 2: for that. That means a lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember the play and I gotta know

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Speaker 1: what you did with the ball.

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Speaker 2: Oh I still got that, Yeah, I still got that.

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Speaker 2: It's at the house. It was a seventy two yard

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Speaker 2: on a little tunnel screen. Took it right to the

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Speaker 2: house my first game back because I got hurt in

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Speaker 2: the first games I set two weeks and came right

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Speaker 2: back and my first touchdown, And.

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Speaker 1: You know, you guys had such a strong passing attack

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Speaker 1: with Eli Manning. The Giants now have Russell Wilson, who

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Speaker 1: himself has got Hall of Fame credentials. What are some

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Speaker 1: of the thoughts that you think he can bring to

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Speaker 2: I think leadership and then playing above the x's and o's.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's been around, He's seen a lot, He's

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Speaker 2: seen a lot of defenses. It ain't too many things

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Speaker 2: you're gonna throw at him that he ain't gonna be

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Speaker 2: able to get. And you know, with the relationship that

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Speaker 2: coach Brian Dable has with the quarterbacks, man, I think

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Speaker 2: that's gonna benefit as well.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you played Eli Manning always had a great

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Speaker 1: relationship with you guys as receivers. You have your Friday

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Speaker 1: meetings all the time, that was above and beyond. How

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Speaker 1: hard will that be for Russell Wilson coming in new

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Speaker 1: to create that kind of chemistry so quickly because he

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Speaker 1: needs to do it. I mean opening days right around

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Speaker 1: the corner with these receivers.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, A good thing is he's been in the building

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Speaker 2: then he's been, you know, taking that leadership road, getting

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Speaker 2: I think that just come with the leadership role, once

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Speaker 2: they was linking up, all the guys was there, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I think that's that team

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Speaker 2: camaraderie is going to roll over through training camp in

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Speaker 2: the preseason, and then you know, when you get that

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Speaker 1: I know the Kansas City touchdown is always memorable because

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Speaker 1: it's your first one. But the Hail Mary in Green

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Speaker 3: I get that into that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Russell Wilson throws that deep moon ball, that

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Speaker 1: rainbow toss, that big hill Mary pass. As a receiver,

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Speaker 1: when you know the quarterback has the ability to hit

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Speaker 1: you on one of those, what does that do for you?

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Speaker 3: Man? Seatball, go get ball? You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You're always open.

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Speaker 2: You want your quarterback to think you always open even

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Speaker 2: when you got somebody on you, because he trusted your hands.

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Speaker 1: What is the trick to being able to come down

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Speaker 1: and and I mean, is it? Is it the anticipation?

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Speaker 2: I mean it might sound simple, but it's just catching

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Speaker 2: Me personally, I like taking the ball right out the air.

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Speaker 2: So you know that's that's just what my specialty was.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you about this wide receiving

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Speaker 1: corps because obviously Malik Neighbors in his rookie season shed

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Speaker 1: look at him and where his upside might be because

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Speaker 2: But the sky's the limit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think, uh, he's he's like he's headed up the right.

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Speaker 2: You know, he'll he's he's going to keep exceeding. He's

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Speaker 2: to talk with him a few times. Man, he got

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Speaker 2: he loves football.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what you need out of a guy like that,

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Speaker 2: A young leader loves football, bringing tensity, bring the energy,

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Speaker 3: What he does. He checks out with all those qualities.

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Speaker 2: So, man, I think he has a lot of upside

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Speaker 2: and he's going to be a great receiver for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: As someone who played the position. Could you give me

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Speaker 1: one specific fine point skill that you see in him

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Speaker 2: I think he's well rounded, you know, I think you

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Speaker 2: can move him. By saying that up meaning I think

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Speaker 2: same results.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's all that he brings to the

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Speaker 1: Well. I think you were pretty darn Letho when you

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Speaker 1: in the show for it the keem Nick's always great

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Speaker 1: Giants legend at super Bowl champion Stephen Baker back here

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Speaker 1: at training camp. And you know, Steven, you played wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: You were explosive, you score touchdowns. We all knew Year's

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Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors, what is a professional eye seeing him that

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Speaker 1: makes him so special?

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Speaker 4: His aggressiveness to the ball. Obviously liking myself as that

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Speaker 4: type of player, Go get the ball, make a play

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Speaker 4: for your quarterback, and that's what he does very well

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Speaker 4: to me, and you know the confidence you can see

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Speaker 4: he has it and I mean he makes plays and

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Speaker 4: that's how I was so like I said, his aggressiveness,

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Speaker 4: because some guys just lollly, guy got you got a

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Speaker 4: it for a little while, but no, his explosiveness and

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Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson is more of a dimunuative receiver and I

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Speaker 1: know you can appreciate that. What is it about his

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, But he's in the slot. So I always said,

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Speaker 4: when you're in the slot, man, you got all that

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Speaker 4: room to maneuver. You remember the great Dave Meggott when

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Speaker 4: when you have that much field and you got that

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get your opinion of this wide receiver

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Speaker 1: they all have a little bit of a different skill

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Speaker 1: set that compliment each other. I've always said, if you

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not. And you're absolutely right because when I played,

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Speaker 4: you know, I always say that to the kids, be

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Speaker 4: You've got these great quarterbacks here now too, and the

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned quarterback because Russell Wilson is so

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Speaker 1: well known for the moon ball, the long deep go route,

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Speaker 4: Well, the great coach Sweeney when I was at Fresno,

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Speaker 3: I really love all right.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a different position though,

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Speaker 1: because running back Tyrone Tracy is now a running back,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, much respect. I always liking myself, I said, I

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Speaker 3: He's just the opposite.

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Speaker 1: And that means the biceps were a little bigger than yours.

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Speaker 4: A whole lot bigger. But it's a mindset thing. It's

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Speaker 4: great compliment you have. You got a two way player.

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Speaker 4: That means he's going to be very good coming out

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Speaker 4: him a lot in that sense.

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Speaker 1: And finally, so many people talk about the complexities of

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Speaker 3: That they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Roddy Hart was the offensive coordinator back in the day.

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Speaker 4: To me, it's still football. I ain't gonna lie still football,

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Speaker 4: but I think I would get kind of lost with

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Speaker 4: all the verbage. The verbage is a little too long.

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Speaker 4: We had one call for a deep hout. It's called

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Speaker 4: eighty two semi meaning max protection. Everybody stay in the block,

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Speaker 4: the two receivers go out sixty protection. The running back

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Speaker 4: stayed in, but sixty two semi. It was very simple.

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Speaker 4: Then now when I hear these calls on NFL network,

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Speaker 4: when they eighty two blast, sixty two go circle around

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Speaker 4: the back.

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Speaker 3: So it's still the same.

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Speaker 4: It's still football.

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Speaker 1: Push els patch in the back and say, come on,

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Speaker 1: can't go make a play?

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Speaker 4: I said, And as long as it's one on one

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Speaker 4: to me, with the receivers. It's still football man. This

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Speaker 4: said like one on one.

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Speaker 1: Drils Stephen Baker. Always glad to have you back, great

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Speaker 1: to see again.

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Speaker 4: Likewise, thank you very much