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Speaker 3: We got all sales. A trade we do.
Speaker 2: Indeed, we got a big trade happening Tuesday night late
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, four team, twelve player deal. So we can
Speaker 2: tackle this by each team here, I think the Rockets.
Speaker 2: Let me let me set the scene for you. The
Speaker 2: Rockets get Robert Covington, Jordan Bell and a twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four second round pick by the way the Warriors. The
Speaker 2: Hawks get Clint Capella and Nane The Wolves get Malik Beasley, Juancho,
Speaker 2: Hernan Gomez, Evan Turner, Jared Vanderbilt and a lottery protected
Speaker 2: twenty twenty first round pick. That's by way of the
Speaker 2: Nets and the Nuggets. Yes, the Nuggets are the fourth
Speaker 2: team in the mix here. They get Gerald Green, Bats,
Speaker 2: Jupp Shabaz Napier, Noah vonleh and a twenty twenty first
Speaker 2: round pick by way of the Rockets. Wow Wow, wow, Wow.
Speaker 2: Where do you want to start? Which team do you
Speaker 2: want to start with? And what they got or what
Speaker 2: they gave up?
Speaker 3: Let's start with the juicy Rockets. Everybody wants to hate them.
Speaker 3: What are they doing? No center? I hate them? It
Speaker 3: is weird. PJ. Tucker is technically going to be their center.
Speaker 3: Robert Covington is their tallest player. He's going to be
Speaker 3: six to eight. But they're gonna be running out James Harden,
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook, Robert Covington, PJ. Tucker, and Daniel House. Probably
Speaker 3: for now, they're gonna get killed by Anthony Davis and
Speaker 3: Nikola Jokich when it comes to playing them. That probably
Speaker 3: get somebody here in the next twenty four hours before.
Speaker 3: But on the offensive end, it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 3: Five guys out beyond the three point line, stretch it out,
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to help James Harden get
Speaker 3: into the lane and score, and Russell Westbrook, especially because
Speaker 3: he's not a three point shooter, get into the lane
Speaker 3: and score. So it's gonna help them offensively. And Clint
Speaker 3: Capella wasn't a big piece for them offensively. It's weird
Speaker 3: to say that, but they were thirtieth in place finished
Speaker 3: you pick and roll that according to Synergy Sports, and
Speaker 3: the great Kevin O'Connor. On the defense end is the
Speaker 3: scary part. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's not the concern of Daryl Mori, right,
Speaker 4: He's like, let's see if we can just score one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty points a game, and if the other
Speaker 4: team can match us, that's good for them. But you wonder,
Speaker 4: of course, how much of this deal was made because
Speaker 4: they wanted to move on from Capella versus a directive
Speaker 4: from the ownership to say we need to shed some
Speaker 4: salary because which they did in this crist they did,
Speaker 4: and that certainly to me seems to be more overriding
Speaker 4: factor than thinking that Capella can't help them because they
Speaker 4: need him. I think they need so.
Speaker 5: But I think that the Rockets still in Covington are
Speaker 5: getting the best player that was traded in this entire deal.
Speaker 5: So they're shaving money off their cap, which is surely
Speaker 5: good for their owner, and they're getting the best guy.
Speaker 5: So this is no doubt a win for the Rockets.
Speaker 5: And honestly, I think Jordan bella do alright playing with
Speaker 5: Mike d'An TONI welcome to the rejuvenation machine that guy
Speaker 5: got Earl Clark paid if he goes and he's willing
Speaker 5: to be a switchy defender and just roll to the
Speaker 5: ram and catch the alley oops. There was hype about
Speaker 5: Jordan bell becoming the next Draymond green Back when he
Speaker 5: was playing with the Golden State Warriors. It was a
Speaker 5: big deal that the Bulls traded him for cash considerations.
Speaker 5: All of that has gone into the past. But he's
Speaker 5: a solid player who's played in big games. I think
Speaker 5: he'll be helpful at least sopping up minutes. You can't
Speaker 5: just have all six to six guys and one six
Speaker 5: foot eight guys, so at least I don't know, Jordan
Speaker 5: Bell's what six foot nine giant amongst men, but I
Speaker 5: think he'll be helpful. I think he'll be a good
Speaker 5: player in D'Antoni system.
Speaker 2: This is fascinating. This like pushing all their chips in
Speaker 2: on this idea of just going small ball. I mean,
Speaker 2: it makes it exciting. You were saying it on the
Speaker 2: other podcast. Ass It's like, all right, this is unique.
Speaker 2: Let's see if it can work in you know, potentially
Speaker 2: three or four playoffs series. They've done well so far.
Speaker 2: I mean in the regular season here when there's been
Speaker 2: no Capella, they're four and oh recently in this past
Speaker 2: week where he's not out there, and they're leaning into that,
Speaker 2: and they've got a really good record overall even when
Speaker 2: Copella's not playing.
Speaker 3: And they're good when he's on the bench and they're
Speaker 3: actually better at kicking the other teams. But because teams
Speaker 3: are definitely caught off guard, nobody else does it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that's it's different in the postseason, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: That'll change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Covington makes sense though on this Rocket team. I
Speaker 2: think we all agree with that, being a career thirty
Speaker 2: six percent three point shooter, so he's good from distance
Speaker 2: on a really good volume this year. Eight attempts per
Speaker 2: thirty six minutes from Pelton.
Speaker 5: There, that's gonna look like nothing by the time he's
Speaker 5: done with the Rockets. Yeah, eight attempt in thirty six minutes.
Speaker 2: That's like a half Yeah, No, you're right, and and yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not done. Look, we might have breaking news while
Speaker 2: we record this podcast for crying out loud, so somebody
Speaker 2: keep their eye on Twitter, of course. But Tim McMahon
Speaker 2: saying Houston does want or they're on the hunt, I
Speaker 2: guess for additional help at center.
Speaker 3: They're not.
Speaker 2: There's there's no move to be made here for like
Speaker 2: Andre Drummond or something like that. But they're gonna get
Speaker 2: up big yeah, yeah, who knows with him, but.
Speaker 3: They can't shoot. I don't think I don't think they
Speaker 3: would go get an Andre Drummond because okay, they're trying
Speaker 3: to I mean, ideally they'd want like at Brook Lopez,
Speaker 3: you know, like the Bucks do and spread it out
Speaker 3: and let Giannis roam, and that's what they do. They're
Speaker 3: just gonna play. Ioball And I think I mentioned Russell
Speaker 3: Westbrook getting into the paint. We talked about it last year.
Speaker 3: As soon as he gets beaten by was it the
Speaker 3: Jazz last year in the playoffs? The thought, sorry, it
Speaker 3: was the Blazers, the Jazz the year before, two years
Speaker 3: in a row. Russell Westbrook goes out with a whimper,
Speaker 3: a guy who is an MVP and obviously an all
Speaker 3: start and again and all start this year. But we
Speaker 3: look at him and say, that's I mean, that's not
Speaker 3: a great performance for an MVP. And this will help
Speaker 3: because he's not gonna shoot the three. He is going
Speaker 3: to be that boulder, that avalanche coming down that lane
Speaker 3: and hopefully he'll be able to score with no defender
Speaker 3: in there for a Clint Capela, a defender that will
Speaker 3: be you know, spread to the three point line. So
Speaker 3: it's gonna it will help them. And I understand people
Speaker 3: hate the Rockets, but I don't know, as a guy
Speaker 3: who's watched basketball for a long time, I'm excited to
Speaker 3: see something entirely different. Although I think, yeah, they're not
Speaker 3: done there. They need somebody big or else they're gonna
Speaker 3: get mopped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to. And also, like what happens if PJ.
Speaker 2: Tucker gets hurt. I mean, you're they're asking him to
Speaker 2: do a ton already as a six to sixth guy
Speaker 2: to play center against some of these behemoths in the West.
Speaker 2: I mean, is it that far fetched that he goes
Speaker 2: down with an injury?
Speaker 3: Then then what I mean it's he's already injured.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, And I guess you could say, well
Speaker 2: Capella's injured as well. He's got pentterfescionatis. I get that,
Speaker 2: but man, yeah, they got to get somebody in case
Speaker 2: of emergency, another.
Speaker 4: Big, well even just game to game with foul trouble.
Speaker 4: If he's defending pigs too, I mean, he's you know,
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to use his muscle to try to
Speaker 4: slow some of those guys down. So but you know,
Speaker 4: this is this is fascinating with what the Rockets are
Speaker 4: trying here, and if it comes off, then Daryl Morey
Speaker 4: is gonna look like a genius, right, because it's never
Speaker 4: really been done before successfully like this, So he's just decided,
Speaker 4: what the hell, let's try it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, turning Capella into Covington Really all right, let's get
Speaker 2: to some of the other teams. So let's go with
Speaker 2: the Hawks. They're the one that get Clint Cappella here.
Speaker 2: What does everybody think about that? Their name has obviously
Speaker 2: come up the Hawks have over the past month or
Speaker 2: so with the idea of trying to get a center
Speaker 2: Steven Adams name, Andre Drummond's name, of course, you know,
Speaker 2: even a guy like Duwayne Denman coming back to the
Speaker 2: Hawks like the the idea that they need a center
Speaker 2: for the future, peers that they've got one in Clint Cappella.
Speaker 2: Does do you like the idea? Do you think the
Speaker 2: pairing of him and Collins could make sense? What's your take?
Speaker 5: I think of all the centers that the Hawks have
Speaker 5: been linked to, Capella is the best one from a
Speaker 5: combination of skills, fit and contract. Like I mean, maybe
Speaker 5: you would like to have Dwayne Dedman making a little
Speaker 5: bit less money, but Clint Capella is certainly better and
Speaker 5: I think fit wise, he's happy to just be a
Speaker 5: rim runner, and that's what John Collins is definitely best at.
Speaker 5: But maybe Collins can expand his game a little bit.
Speaker 5: He certainly seems to be comfortable trying to stretch out
Speaker 5: a little bit. But uh, I would rather have Capella
Speaker 5: than Andre drumming because think Capella, you're just gonna throw
Speaker 5: them lobs. You don't have to waste any time with
Speaker 5: post ups or anything like that. Cappella is more of
Speaker 5: an impact defensively. Drumming one of the best rebounders of
Speaker 5: all time. But Cappella is pretty close all things considered.
Speaker 5: So I think this is a win for the Hawks too.
Speaker 5: This is the rare trade where every team I think,
Speaker 5: good job.
Speaker 3: This is how it happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Hawks can afford to take him on with
Speaker 4: his salary too, because they've got so much cap space
Speaker 4: going forward that it's not really going to hinder them,
Speaker 4: you know, next season. So if it works with Capella,
Speaker 4: then they get a pretty good player out of this,
Speaker 4: and if it doesn't, then it's not going to sabotage
Speaker 4: him too much going forward in the future. So and
Speaker 4: John Collins, yeah, I think that he's more suited to
Speaker 4: just being a stretch guy rather than sort of being
Speaker 4: in the post there they want him. He wants to
Speaker 4: get out there shooting. He's more athletic, so having Compella
Speaker 4: behind him, I think is going to help. And then
Speaker 4: for Trey Young, it's good to have a guy who
Speaker 4: knows how to finish around the room. So I like
Speaker 4: it for the Hawks, and yeah, they were clearly looking
Speaker 4: for a big man, and I think they got a
Speaker 4: good one young guy contract they can easily afford, so
Speaker 4: it makes no sense for them to not make this
Speaker 4: sort of deal.
Speaker 3: He's good at definitely as a partner for Tree Young.
Speaker 3: I worry definitely about the overlap with Johnkins, John Collins,
Speaker 3: that's all he did. You come pick for me, come
Speaker 3: pick for me, And now he's yeah, he's gotta change
Speaker 3: up his game a little bit. But whatever you lose
Speaker 3: there you gain with Clinn Coppella at least being some
Speaker 3: sort of presence at the RAM defensively because John Collens
Speaker 3: ain't that and the struggles, oh bad, that's where they
Speaker 3: lose games. It's not an offense. So it's a chance
Speaker 3: they took. They gave up Brooklyn's first round pick in
Speaker 3: this and you know that's gonna be h fifteen approximately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen to seventeen probably, So there.
Speaker 3: It's worth Clint Cappella, who is cost controlled for the
Speaker 3: next several years at around fifteen to sixteen mil. That's
Speaker 3: a nice contract to take on. And yeah, they're benefiting
Speaker 3: from a really good contract that that the Rockets signed
Speaker 3: him to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they could always move if it doesn't work
Speaker 2: at all. And they're like, oh, Capella and John Collins
Speaker 2: can't play together, Well, they can move one of them.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're either you're either gonna move a very
Speaker 2: movable contract in Capella or you're gonna say, wow, we
Speaker 2: don't want to give max money like dollars to John Collins,
Speaker 2: so let's look to move him because that will be
Speaker 2: coming up here soon too. So yeah, I'm with you guys.
Speaker 2: I like it from the Hawks, and it didn't really
Speaker 2: cost them that much. They've already waved Chandler Parsons what
Speaker 2: I was just saying this morning, then, ay, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if he has not waved as well.
Speaker 2: So this is what they got. They got, they got
Speaker 2: a center. They're gonna try it out, pair them with Collins,
Speaker 2: and I do like the idea of going, you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about the Rockets moving away from Capella in
Speaker 2: the pick and roll, especially once Westbrook out there. But
Speaker 2: they used to do it a lot. I mean they
Speaker 2: used to do it a ton in Capella. Maybe that
Speaker 2: he'll be able to get back to that with Tree
Speaker 2: Young running that nine stop. That makes sense. What are
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves landed a pick that Brooklyn twenty twenty first
Speaker 2: rounder lottery protected you said task probably you know, fifteenth,
Speaker 2: maybe sixteenth, seventeen, somewhere in that range. But they go
Speaker 2: and get a couple of nuggets in giving up Coventon.
Speaker 2: What does everybody think of this? From the Wolves side
Speaker 2: of things? Are they even done? Is this all part
Speaker 2: of a bigger plan to maybe still try and get
Speaker 2: d'angela Russell or something else.
Speaker 4: Well, I like Malik Beasley coming back to them. I mean,
Speaker 4: Evan Turner's not going to stay. I wouldn't think, or
Speaker 4: certainly not beyond this season. Juancho, nah, you know, he's
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think he's a part of their
Speaker 4: long term plans.
Speaker 2: Either Beasley and Wancho or are both restricted free agency.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I think with the situation there for Beesley
Speaker 4: and Denver, as someone had to go really, especially with
Speaker 4: the emergence of Michael Porter Junior and so Beasley, they
Speaker 4: move him out and the Nuggets get a pick in
Speaker 4: return for him. But the Wolves, you figure they are
Speaker 4: looking at making some sort of a bigger move here
Speaker 4: because this is not really going to change too much
Speaker 4: for them. For Karl Anthony Towns, I mean, Covington was
Speaker 4: apparently a good friend of his in the locker room
Speaker 4: Shooters Better Yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 3: Fitted his friend Anthony town said he was the type
Speaker 3: of player.
Speaker 4: That you sort of think they need to surround more
Speaker 4: of with there with Towns, so you figure that there
Speaker 4: is something bigger happening. But I like Beasley. I think
Speaker 4: he can be a good player, and I just think
Speaker 4: there wasn't enough minutes for him in Denver. Now he
Speaker 4: goes to a situation where they absolutely need players and
Speaker 4: he could he could thrive in that role. So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna put this one down as incomplete because
Speaker 4: I think the Wolves are still they simply have to
Speaker 4: do something else.
Speaker 3: They got a first round pick and Malik Beasley basically
Speaker 3: for rober Covington.
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 3: It's a bit, it's a bit lateral. I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: they they need to get I think I wanted them
Speaker 3: to get more for Rubber Compton. But maybe Malik Beasley
Speaker 3: can go a twenty point per game. Guy, Wow, crazy,
Speaker 3: I'm going crazy right now. He won't be that, but
Speaker 3: he's a good shooter. Yeah, I'm a little underwhelmed, but
Speaker 3: at least they're planning for the future a little bit
Speaker 3: more a little bit, you know, with this the first
Speaker 3: round pick as well, and they're saying, Okay, well, this
Speaker 3: whole tigue, you know, situation here we're sort of going
Speaker 3: for right now is not the best idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Timberwolves were so unhappy with their point guard
Speaker 5: situation they just traded all of them.
Speaker 3: Skeets.
Speaker 5: You might want to move to Minnesota. I think you
Speaker 5: could get some time there in the backcourt because literally,
Speaker 5: who's going to pass the ball? Jarrett Culver, I suppose
Speaker 5: is gonna function as their point guard. Wiggins is a
Speaker 5: little bit of their point guard. But I mean, nobody's
Speaker 5: setting the table for Karl Anthony Towns, nobody playing defense.
Speaker 5: But that just means their pick is getting better and better.
Speaker 5: So I think that's the biggest win for this trade.
Speaker 5: For the Timberwolves is that they're gonna be even worse
Speaker 5: so they'll get a better player. And they got a pick.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know they wanted two first for Robert Covington,
Speaker 5: and he's the hottest name on the trade market, but
Speaker 5: Robert Covington isn't probably worth two first round picks, So
Speaker 5: they got one in a they can extend if they
Speaker 5: want to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they didn't give up their pick, which is
Speaker 3: the most important part exactly in that they talk about
Speaker 3: D'Angel Russell. If they're gonna get him, they're gonna have
Speaker 3: to give up their pick, and they got to hold
Speaker 3: onto that. So that's a win in that regard.
Speaker 2: And then the surprise team in this deal, I think
Speaker 2: that's fair to say was the Nuggets, because we were
Speaker 2: seeing some sort of form of these moves, the Capella
Speaker 2: to the Hawks, the Covington going to the Rockets. You know,
Speaker 2: we've been talking about this for a little bit, but
Speaker 2: the Nuggets sort of were not ever really involved in
Speaker 2: the mix. And then last night they are here. Were
Speaker 2: you shocked by that? You said, Lee that you thought, well,
Speaker 2: this makes sense moving on from those guys bas Lee
Speaker 2: and Wantrell, because they just don't have really minutes like
Speaker 2: they were getting minutes only because of injury. But you know,
Speaker 2: once all the guys are healthy and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: their back sort of to the end of the bench.
Speaker 2: Were you shocked? This makes sense? What do you think?
Speaker 4: Well, I think the Nuggets see themselves right now in
Speaker 4: a position to contend. But they also thought, well, you
Speaker 4: know what, we can also grab a first round pick
Speaker 4: out of this deal, and we're gonna have to lose
Speaker 4: one of these guys eventually at some point, so sure
Speaker 4: we can facilitate, we can jump in here. Whether it
Speaker 4: was going to be Monte Morris or it was going
Speaker 4: to be Malik Beasley, you figured that one of those
Speaker 4: guys wasn't going to be their long term So I
Speaker 4: think the Nuggets were just in the right place at
Speaker 4: the right time. They don't really lose any of their
Speaker 4: status as contenders in my opinion right now. Beasley, I
Speaker 4: think he's a good player. I think he can be
Speaker 4: a good player, and given an opportunity for more minutes
Speaker 4: than a bigger role, I'm interested to see how good
Speaker 4: he can be.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Nuggets, Oh, with Michael Porter Junior, like
Speaker 2: you said, yeah, that's the first wing guy, and then
Speaker 2: Tory Craig is the best defender. Yeah, so it's like
Speaker 2: sort of Beasley's left in.
Speaker 4: The shop and they've still got Gary Harris out there
Speaker 4: as well. Who's you know here now for now? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean Gary Harris. They paid a lot of money too.
Speaker 4: He hasn't quite lived up to it. But again, I
Speaker 4: think you want to hang on to him right now.
Speaker 4: So yeah, if someone just says, hey, we'll give you
Speaker 4: a first round pick for one of these guys you're
Speaker 4: going to get rid of anyway, So you're sort of
Speaker 4: having a bit of an eye to the future, why
Speaker 4: not do that a few of the nuggets.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 5: They have a little bit more draft equity. That's a
Speaker 5: term I'm loving hearing a lot about during this trade deadline,
Speaker 5: all about that draft equity. They've got it now for
Speaker 5: guys who weren't in their rotation. I don't know if
Speaker 5: there's a bigger set of four people in North America
Speaker 5: Jancho fans than US four. But where's Wancho now? He's
Speaker 5: in Minnesota, which is good because he wasn't really getting
Speaker 5: any sort of run for Denver because Michael Porter made
Speaker 5: him expendable. Tory Craig has made Malik Beasley expendable. Shabaz
Speaker 5: Napier will be expendable because Montey Morris is there. So
Speaker 5: maybe you're able to put Gary Harris in a deal
Speaker 5: with Napier and this pick you just got and move
Speaker 5: it for somebody who's a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 5: a little bit higher quality player, and then you're just
Speaker 5: able to take this giant collection of good players you
Speaker 5: have and you're kind of funneling it into even better players.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't take a step closer to the title.
Speaker 3: That's the I guess the unfortunate part if you're looking
Speaker 3: at this from a Nuggets fans perspective right now, they
Speaker 3: didn't get better in their rotation all that much. That's
Speaker 3: that's the thing that we expected them to do, you know,
Speaker 3: with thirty hours here before the trade deadline, so that
Speaker 3: could be in play. But they get a pick draft equity. Sure,
Speaker 3: all these other guys that came to the roster in
Speaker 3: Schabbaz Napier, Noah von Leh, Gerald Green, Cada, Bates d Up,
Speaker 3: maybe he's a player for them in the future. But
Speaker 3: I'd say that's the only guy that really may get
Speaker 3: minutes on this team. Yeah, maybe in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like von Ley and Napier are like third
Speaker 2: string guys at their positions, right at the center, in
Speaker 2: point guard positions, So in case of an emergency to
Speaker 2: a Plumbley or a or a Morris at the point
Speaker 2: guard position. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. They're
Speaker 2: just they're decent quality NBA players, but they're not They
Speaker 2: don't they're not even backup guys. The third string guys
Speaker 2: would you sometimes need when emergency happen.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, when when you do have injuries like that.
Speaker 4: But it's also a credit to the why the Nuggets
Speaker 4: have built this roster. They're deep. They're very deep, you know,
Speaker 4: so I think that they've gotten themselves into good position here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I saw Zilla write today about the
Speaker 2: Nuggets being the surprise team in this He wrote, you
Speaker 2: don't trade rotation players for picks when you're playing for championships.
Speaker 2: But I think the argument to that is, well, these
Speaker 2: guys actually weren't rotation players. Again, they were sort of
Speaker 2: forced into that role because of injuries, but they're not really,
Speaker 2: you know, long term, by any means, rotation players for
Speaker 2: this Nuggets team. With the talent above them sort of
Speaker 2: in the pecking order. That's where I sort of disagree
Speaker 2: with that, which is why I think they made this move.
Speaker 2: And you hit that pick and you get still some depths,
Speaker 2: you still got guys there, and they may not be done.
Speaker 2: They do really feel like a team that could have
Speaker 2: They have the guys, They have guys under the contracts
Speaker 2: that you can move for someone of a bit of
Speaker 2: a sexier, bigger name if if they want to make
Speaker 2: that move.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they get Houston's pick in this which is
Speaker 3: going to be in the twenties, which is another Basically
Speaker 3: they're going to draft another guy who is going to
Speaker 3: be eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve in their rotation, which
Speaker 3: they have a billion of because they have drafted really well.
Speaker 3: So it's time to cash in on those in probably
Speaker 3: get a better player. But they're excited for Michael Porter
Speaker 3: Junior to potentially be that perimeter star in twenty one,
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three. But should they wait or should
Speaker 3: they you know, cash in some of these end of
Speaker 3: the bench type guys in hope that they can get
Speaker 3: another star to try and try and you know, overtake
Speaker 3: Lebron and friends.
Speaker 2: Now overall, not a bad trade from all fourteen. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can understand what they're thinking. I don't love it
Speaker 2: for the Wolves because it's like, on one hand, you're like,
Speaker 2: why are we even moving Comington to begin with? But
Speaker 2: if they if they're hell bent on doing that and
Speaker 2: they've got bigger things in mind trying to get D'Angelo
Speaker 2: Russell and need a pick to do that, then yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: that's the reasoning. But yeah, from all the other teams,
Speaker 2: it's not bad. It's one of those like pretty decent,
Speaker 2: like you're sort of scoring it, like nice doing business
Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, like a b for every team. It
Speaker 2: almost feels like, so let's hear from you, guys. That's
Speaker 2: at least my opinion on it. Always fun to get
Speaker 2: a trade. Always nice to hear the Southern Lawyer. Hopefully
Speaker 2: we hear them many more times throughout this podcast or
Speaker 2: at least in the next twenty four hours or so.
Speaker 2: Had some other big news on Tuesday, guys. The Knicks
Speaker 2: fired team president Steve Mills, and the rumors I've started
Speaker 2: up once again that the Knicks have set their sights
Speaker 2: on the Raptors. Massaiu Jerie General manager Scott Perry. By
Speaker 2: the way, we'll oversee the basketball operations in the interim.
Speaker 2: So the Knicks two days before the trade deadline fire
Speaker 2: the head guy in charge. Not that he has had
Speaker 2: any success over the past couple of decades with that franchise.
Speaker 2: He's not even really losing, well, he's losing his title
Speaker 2: with the X. But he might be just moved somewhere
Speaker 2: else within the dole in organization. I don't know, something
Speaker 2: like that's great.
Speaker 4: Never really fired, you're just reassigned.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess I'll start with this task as a Raptors fan.
Speaker 2: With now an opening, an actual legit opening for team
Speaker 2: president of the Knicks. Are you worried with again this
Speaker 2: sort of swell of rumors that, oh, the Knicks are
Speaker 2: going for Messiujieri and there is an opening now and
Speaker 2: this could be in play. What's your take on all that.
Speaker 3: I got a little bit more worried when I saw
Speaker 3: the the report from Mark Stein that NBA Commissioner Adam
Speaker 3: Silver was pushing Massaiougerie to the Knicks. Now the league
Speaker 3: office totally declining that. And we've heard about these types
Speaker 3: of rumors in the past, like, hey, Brian Colangelo, go
Speaker 3: save the process Philadelphia seventy six ers apparently is what
Speaker 3: the Commissioner's office did, So that made me worry a
Speaker 3: little bit more. But I still don't think it's really
Speaker 3: Massai Jeri's moo to go to a team that's flailing
Speaker 3: in a major way and to go to a front runner,
Speaker 3: to go to a huge, huge organization and try and
Speaker 3: help them out. I think he's totally fine going, you know,
Speaker 3: playing with the Raptors chips and continuing there. I think
Speaker 3: he's more focused on growing the Africa League that's starting
Speaker 3: right now. I just don't see him as a front runner.
Speaker 3: I just don't see him like that. I just don't
Speaker 3: see him. Why would he do that?
Speaker 5: How's that front running to join the next they haven't
Speaker 5: had a winning season in forty five thousand years ago.
Speaker 3: Well, because it's the Knicks and everybody talks about them,
Speaker 3: and it's the biggest market in North America.
Speaker 5: I mean, that sounds like a great reason to take
Speaker 5: the job. If you're asking me, Vegas market in North America,
Speaker 5: bringing him back to glory after you've already done everything
Speaker 5: you can with the Toronto Raptors, I'm with you. After
Speaker 5: I saw the mark Stein report, I'm a little more
Speaker 5: nervous for my Raptor friends. I don't know how often
Speaker 5: can you just keep going back to the world. Does
Speaker 5: he want to be arc Buford? Does he want to
Speaker 5: really build the Spurs in Toronto and have a competitive,
Speaker 5: championship quality team every single year? That would be awesome
Speaker 5: if he does, or maybe he just wants to be
Speaker 5: a guy who is the hero in every single city
Speaker 5: he goes to and keeps growing and getting bigger and
Speaker 5: better everywhere he goes.
Speaker 2: Does he want to be a championship exactly?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But he also is focusing on the NBA Africa League,
Speaker 3: where he talks about He's been in interviews basically inquired.
Speaker 3: He's been asked about like, hey, how can we build
Speaker 3: a huge, huge league in Africa and why can't we
Speaker 3: why can't we get a soccer team like Arsenal in Africa?
Speaker 3: And he goes, you know what, We're gonna build our
Speaker 3: own Arsenal. He wants to build things from the ground up.
Speaker 3: I just don't see him going to the next and
Speaker 3: trying something like that. But hey, it's the probably the
Speaker 3: third month that we haven't talked about it, so we've
Speaker 3: got to talk about it again. It's a rumor that
Speaker 3: just keeps coming back.
Speaker 4: I thought there's no way in the world he'd want
Speaker 4: to go to that chaok situation because no one comes
Speaker 4: out of there looking good. No one comes out with
Speaker 4: their reputation improved after working for the Knicks. But Michael
Speaker 4: Grange from Sports Now our Canadian friend there, he's got
Speaker 4: an articlup basically saying, you know that the Maple Leafe
Speaker 4: Sports and Entertainment, which owns the Raptors, declined to offer
Speaker 4: an extension to Messiah JII, who, even if he was
Speaker 4: offered it apparently, according to this article, was going to
Speaker 4: decline it anyway when his contract is up in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one because he may want to test free agency.
Speaker 4: So there's certainly now some more legitimate people reporting that
Speaker 4: perhaps Messiah is actually willing to consider this offer. So
Speaker 4: that to me now gives it a little bit more
Speaker 4: traction that there are actually some real people talking that
Speaker 4: he might be intrigued by it, because it is the
Speaker 4: ultimate sort of everestrial, isn't it. I mean, if you
Speaker 4: are able to turn the Knicks from the absolute joke
Speaker 4: that they've been now for so long into a successful
Speaker 4: team and not necessarily winning the championship, but just a
Speaker 4: credible team again with a good repute. Then that's I mean,
Speaker 4: bessides her, He's going to be just the greatest president
Speaker 4: whatever role he encompasses there in New York that the
Speaker 4: league's ever seen, because it's a disaster right now, and
Speaker 4: you've seen people like respected people like Phil Jackson walk
Speaker 4: in there and then absolutely just humiliated as he left
Speaker 4: because he couldn't do anything, you know, And Mark Stein
Speaker 4: sort of says that in his article as well. We
Speaker 4: talk more about Phil Jackson as the disaster in New
Speaker 4: York than the eleven time NBA Coach Championship winning coach.
Speaker 4: So I can see from a challenge perspective, Messi having won,
Speaker 4: I mean, having won the championship with the Raptors is
Speaker 4: an enormous successful successful goal of his or successful achievement
Speaker 4: of his. If he can now go to the situation
Speaker 4: where no one has been able to succeed and succeed,
Speaker 4: then that would be incredible. But if the Raptors lose
Speaker 4: as well, Bobby Webster as well, because there's also reports
Speaker 4: that if Messi goes, he's going to he's going to
Speaker 4: bring his guys with him.
Speaker 2: That's what staying reporting that. Yes, I have been my
Speaker 2: sources say there is absolutely no way that happens that
Speaker 2: he would turn down Bobby Webster. If Massi were to leave,
Speaker 2: that he would turn down the rays slash the promotion
Speaker 2: that he would be in line for. That's that's that's
Speaker 2: what skeet sources because I was that was the first
Speaker 2: time I had seen something like that too. That report
Speaker 2: the idea of like Massi just taking everybody, and that
Speaker 2: is the other part, Like a guy like Messi who
Speaker 2: everybody loves. I mean, there's the concern as a Raptors fan,
Speaker 2: obviously him going to another organization, You're going, oh, well,
Speaker 2: who's in charge now? The second part of that is, well,
Speaker 2: guys like that that are that are so trusted and
Speaker 2: have so much respect, will everybody that they have in
Speaker 2: place sometimes follow them to the next place because they're like,
Speaker 2: I want to work for that guy. That's what really
Speaker 2: concerns me again, as a rap say, if we're missided,
Speaker 2: not just Massill, it's everything else he's got in store there.
Speaker 2: But you know, hopefully the organization of the Raptors that
Speaker 2: they've built and he's built up has such a strong
Speaker 2: backbone that it will still you know, still be fine.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: The final sentence in this article from grind short answer
Speaker 4: year he's gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and look the other part is it
Speaker 2: Massai couldn't up this in the butt if he wanted to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: right he And now maybe he doesn't want to for
Speaker 2: leverage reasons, contract reasons like why would he? I guess,
Speaker 2: but he could say he could very easily come out
Speaker 2: and say I am not going anywhere. In fact, I'm
Speaker 2: in negotiations to sign my next contract. The raptors have
Speaker 2: been over backwards, are gonna be anything I want, and
Speaker 2: rightfully so. But he hasn't done that. So why hasn't
Speaker 2: he done that? Is it again just a is it
Speaker 2: a money play power play? Or is he does he
Speaker 2: have his eyes set on somewhere else?
Speaker 5: Only time will tell. It just definitely feels more tenuous
Speaker 5: now than it did twenty four hours ago, for sure,
Speaker 5: And at any time I would say that New York
Speaker 5: has been pursuing Messiah. I think this seems more realistic
Speaker 5: than it ever has.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again mainly because of the first thing I said,
Speaker 2: There is an opening that that is your job right there?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Does Dolan, because the classic Dolan does he like he
Speaker 2: can't sit on his hands for more than two minutes here,
Speaker 2: and he's got to play the blues, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? But he gave does he does he go, Well,
Speaker 2: we're not waiting for Messiah, I know. Okay, Well, we're
Speaker 2: not waiting for him to decide and for him to
Speaker 2: drag us around here. So we're gonna go this. Uh
Speaker 2: you know agent Rout because there's rumors of that, and
Speaker 2: you know, obviously they were on to the next plan
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. Yeah, and maybe that happens with a guy
Speaker 2: like Door. He couldn't be shocked if that does.
Speaker 4: He's linked to all the ones who have been successful.
Speaker 4: We just want one of those ones, you know. We
Speaker 4: want we want to Bob Myers, you know, we want
Speaker 4: to rob the link and just find it's one of those.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: But I just talk about he would he would give
Speaker 4: up total or Tomny or Tomny? Is that right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean to messages to try
Speaker 4: to entice. But I'm pretty sure he gave that to Phil.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that Phil was like, I get to do
Speaker 4: everything I want and no one reports into me. Because
Speaker 4: I remember even seeing Dolan on a radio station saying,
Speaker 4: once you know Phil makes all the decisions, I don't,
Speaker 4: I don't get involved.
Speaker 5: There's conflicts of the Madison Square Garden radio station that
Speaker 5: you were running as an employee, as the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's conflicting reports about how involved a guy like
Speaker 2: Dolan is in the data day basketball operations. Some people say, no,
Speaker 2: he's actually pretty hands off and he hires these guys
Speaker 2: and lets them make all the decisions and stays out
Speaker 2: of the way. And then, of course the flip side
Speaker 2: is no, at a certain point when the fans start
Speaker 2: chanting sell the team, he because he you know, is crazy,
Speaker 2: freaks out and does whatever he wants to do because
Speaker 2: he's the man in charge, and fires the you know
Speaker 2: team prisident or does whatever he can in his power
Speaker 2: because he's like, oh, this is a bad look for me.
Speaker 2: I don't know. So I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's both. From day to day. It probably changes
Speaker 2: with this guy.
Speaker 5: But by all reports it was Phil Jackson had autonomy
Speaker 5: and maybe that just comes because that's a guy that
Speaker 5: Jim Dolan really respects, and clearly that is the case
Speaker 5: with Messia Jerry. He has wanted Messia Jerry to be
Speaker 5: his GM since he talked himself out of the Kyle
Speaker 5: Lowry trade. And then that's where I think it really starts,
Speaker 5: because Dolan's like, if you wouldn't let me trade for
Speaker 5: Kyle Lowry, we would have won the championship. Duh, So
Speaker 5: I gotta get Messia Jerry. He knew just like I knew.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that if if Massi were to
Speaker 5: were to join the next he would probably have full
Speaker 5: autonomy at least until they lost three games in a row.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The other thing is people saying that the Knicks
Speaker 4: would have to give the Raptors compensation, which again would
Speaker 4: make no sense. If Massiah was to take over that
Speaker 4: team and lose a couple of first round picks to
Speaker 4: the Raptors, then you're starting from behind already.
Speaker 2: They've got some Mavericks picks in the mix there too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there are picks that they could Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 2: all depends on the timing, right, Yeah, it's whether Yeah,
Speaker 2: that idea that you can trade for an executive, and
Speaker 2: you got they got to be careful with all the
Speaker 2: tampering of course and stuff. Here, maybe we've already crossed
Speaker 2: that bridge I don't know what is tampering right right, right, right,
Speaker 2: So we will see who right now. Scott Perry, Yes
Speaker 2: that Scott Perry is still there, Scott Scott and Steve
Speaker 2: Scott survives. Yes, Scott, you can leave Steve all right.
Speaker 3: We got our All.
Speaker 2: Star Saturday Night participants. They were announced on Tuesday night.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the dunk contests. We basically knew who
Speaker 2: it was, but it's only four dunkers. I'm very sad
Speaker 2: it's Pat Connaton, Aaron Gordon, Dwight Howard and Derek Jones Junior.
Speaker 2: We don't got to start making our picks here by
Speaker 2: any means. We might even save that for our live
Speaker 2: show in Chicago the night of all the All Star
Speaker 2: Saturday Night festivities, right before they happen. But yeah, only
Speaker 2: getting the four. I kept saying for weeks that we
Speaker 2: might get a bigger field. But maybe they just could
Speaker 2: get these guys to commit. I mean, de Zion Williamson
Speaker 2: injury probably came into play and John Morant declining it.
Speaker 2: So maybe there was an offer to I don't know,
Speaker 2: five or six guys and they just only got four okas,
Speaker 2: But what do you think.
Speaker 5: I wish I wouldn't have known who else was invited,
Speaker 5: because when you see Conaton, Gordon, Howard Jones, that's four
Speaker 5: good dunkers. You know, who knows what to expect from
Speaker 5: Dwight Howard after ten years off, Derek Jones Junior should
Speaker 5: be better this time around. Aaron Gordon is a legend
Speaker 5: in the game. Unfortunately, he'll kind of always be compared
Speaker 5: to twenty sixteen in Pat Connaton. You saw him last
Speaker 5: night sky and for the one hander forty four inch
Speaker 5: vert second highest at the combine. So maybe he'll be
Speaker 5: a surprise. Well, but when you go into it hearing
Speaker 5: oh man, Zack Lavine's been invited, John RAN's been invited,
Speaker 5: and then you see Connaton, Gordon, Howard Jones, it's a
Speaker 5: little bit of a letdown compared to those guys, but
Speaker 5: it's good for all things considered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and maybe Zach Lavine still shocks
Speaker 2: us all and says, hey, he's keeping it on the
Speaker 2: dunking baby. Yeah, I just won the three point condess.
Speaker 2: I'm dunking next.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for Dwight, I really am. I just want
Speaker 4: to see what he's got left in his tank, because
Speaker 4: he's an entertaining dunk contest guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have the lowest expectations imaginable for Dwight House.
Speaker 2: That's great, I really do, and that's probably the best way, yeah,
Speaker 2: to approach it. Yeah, I just I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just don't see because he's done. He's done the cool
Speaker 2: big man dunk, so maybe he's got more. But like,
Speaker 2: he's done the twelve foot you know dunk, twelve foot
Speaker 2: rim dunk, he's done the sticker dunk. He's done the
Speaker 2: crazy one where he jumped up and tapped it off
Speaker 2: the glass and we didn't even sort of appreciate it
Speaker 2: for how cool that dunk was at the time. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: what's left in his big man dunk bag? Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the thing.
Speaker 4: He pulled out some dunks we've never seen before. So
Speaker 4: I'm guessing he's got a few more tricks up his
Speaker 4: sleeve that he wants to show.
Speaker 2: Because those hops, like he quite did, they're.
Speaker 3: Not too bad.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing I want to I wanted
Speaker 4: to get on the twelve footer again and say if
Speaker 4: you can just throw that down, because just to see.
Speaker 5: Old old dunks, I mean, I guess it would be impressive.
Speaker 5: They're like, this guy is old now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ten years later, all those injuries he's had and
Speaker 4: he can still done good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the stickers are going to say thirty three or
Speaker 3: however old he is. Yeah, they say the last thing
Speaker 3: to go for a player is his hops. So yeah,
Speaker 3: he's going to bring it. They don't say that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like Trey said ten years ago. My god. But they're
Speaker 3: going to be showman dunks is what they're going to be.
Speaker 3: They're going to have some sort of flare, some sort
Speaker 3: of plan, you know, with his teammates or out there
Speaker 3: or something like that. It's going to be more about
Speaker 3: the performance than it is going to be about the dunk.
Speaker 2: Chances are hig Dwight Howard it's going to embarrass himself here,
Speaker 2: come on. They're very very high in terms of the
Speaker 2: theatrical prop type thing. Does Superman make a return. He's
Speaker 2: got to bring back Superman, like, it's got to be happening.
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if it doesn't. The one thing about
Speaker 2: Pat Continton, I just want to throw this in there,
Speaker 2: because you were joking, Well you actually weren't joking, because
Speaker 2: you hear it all the time. Forty four inch vertical
Speaker 2: I heard Nate Duncan talking to Danny LaRue last night.
Speaker 2: Apparently that's incorrect, because what happened at the Combine was
Speaker 2: they screwed up Pat Connington's standing reach, like they measured
Speaker 2: it incorrectly, which is what they do. They measure your
Speaker 2: standing reach and then of course the jumping to then
Speaker 2: see how how you get and do the math and
Speaker 2: there's your vertical. I guess they screwed it up. He's
Speaker 2: got a forty inch vertical. We still pretty amazing, but
Speaker 2: uh yeah, it's like just passed around and he's got
Speaker 2: the forty four inch vertical. But I guess he does
Speaker 2: it because they just messed it up. I don't know
Speaker 2: why that's so funny to me? Who knows what to
Speaker 2: expect from him. Either he's gonna do the classic white
Speaker 2: Man dunk. I did it in our dunk contest and
Speaker 2: throw it around his back, sort of do a cool reverse.
Speaker 2: It'll look fine.
Speaker 4: It's a tough Rex.
Speaker 2: Chapman has done it, and Barry's done it, and there's
Speaker 2: been others. Yeah, he'll be fine, he'll be fine. But really,
Speaker 2: it's to me, can Aaron Gordon replicate what he did
Speaker 2: againstzacch Lavine in his contest, or at least the first
Speaker 2: one in sixteen. And then can Dereck Jones Junior, being
Speaker 2: a little more experienced than this, bring it so we
Speaker 2: get an awesome head to head between those two guys.
Speaker 2: You just need to just need to. We always think.
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon on T and T last night. Oh yeah, relaxed,
Speaker 4: he was. He must have been jet lagged.
Speaker 2: Oh that is if you haven't seen the club yet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go look that up. Aaron Gordon appearing on TN T
Speaker 2: last night with Shack Sagg. How high can you get?
Speaker 2: Can you get that high? That's very very high? And
Speaker 2: yeah they really leaned into it. That's very funny. All right.
Speaker 2: Taco Bell Skills Challenge, we got the Smalls and the
Speaker 2: Biggs again. The Smalls are Patrick Beverley, who has won
Speaker 2: this contest before, Jason Tatum, who I guess is now
Speaker 2: as small. I think he won it last year as
Speaker 2: a big spencer, Dinwiddie and Derek Grows in Chicago. Canna
Speaker 2: get quite the pop there from the crowd, I imagine.
Speaker 2: The bigs are Sabonis at a Bio, Chris Mill and
Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam Skills Challenge still happening, and it's there. It's fine,
Speaker 2: it's over fairly quick, and sometimes there's an exciting moment
Speaker 2: or two. But I guess we're I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know for sure, but I assume we're just going with
Speaker 2: the smalls on one side of the bracket bigs on
Speaker 2: the other.
Speaker 1: Is that the plan?
Speaker 2: Again, I guess.
Speaker 3: So, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the Wikipedia page and it appears to
Speaker 5: me that Mike Conley faced Jason Tatum in the first
Speaker 5: round last year, right, So I guess that makes them Smalls'.
Speaker 5: So Tatum is still a small because Doncich went against Kuzma.
Speaker 5: I think those are the other bigs compared to Yokich
Speaker 5: and Lusevich. So I guess Tatum I thought he was
Speaker 5: a big too. Yeah, but congratulations to him on being
Speaker 5: reclassified as a small. They're continuing to be a small.
Speaker 5: But look at all of these former winners.
Speaker 2: We've got.
Speaker 5: All the smalls has skills titles challenges in their belt.
Speaker 5: So you know, this is very exciting for US Skills
Speaker 5: Challenge heads out there to see this kind of championship
Speaker 5: equity in the contest, the biggest one that.
Speaker 3: We've ever seen.
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Jayson Titum is listed at six eight and
Speaker 4: he's a small Chris Middleton is sixty seven and he's
Speaker 4: a big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't even overthink it. I'd like to see
Speaker 2: Westbrook involved in this somehow, like just staring at Beverly
Speaker 2: while he's doing the course or something like that. Give
Speaker 2: us a little more attention. Maybe it's in play. But
Speaker 2: the crowd is gonna go crowd's gonna go crazy for
Speaker 2: Derek Rose. That is gonna be the funny part. I mean,
Speaker 2: I hope he can hit the pass. I hope he
Speaker 2: doesn't botch the pass a couple of times. The crowd
Speaker 2: will really but they're gonna be going nuts. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: let's get to this. You know, I'm gonna get pumped
Speaker 2: about this. We got the three point contest. That's the
Speaker 2: final one. I saved it for last for a reason.
Speaker 2: Our contestants, participants looks nice, Davas Berton's Davante Graham, Joe Harris,
Speaker 2: the defending champ, Buddy Healed, Zach Levine going in the
Speaker 2: three point contest, now dunk contest, Damian Lillard got some
Speaker 2: star power, Trey Young as well, and then Duncan Robinson.
Speaker 6: Solid eight guys.
Speaker 2: Very nice. Here's the problem. The NBA has changed the
Speaker 2: format to this year's three point contests. They're adding a
Speaker 2: pair of deep shots that will be worth three points apiece.
Speaker 2: The ap'ce ten Reynolds was the first to report this
Speaker 2: travesty and then they talked about it on TNT last night.
Speaker 2: So the change means each round will now be a
Speaker 2: total of twenty seven shots instead of twenty five. The
Speaker 2: competitors will now get seventy seconds to finish all of
Speaker 2: their shots instead of the sixty. The two additional shots, well,
Speaker 2: they're they're deep bombs, man. They're six feet beyond the
Speaker 2: three point line. They're between the racks, located on the wings.
Speaker 2: They're in the mountain dew zone. The ball will be green.
Speaker 2: And again, if you hit those, those are three points.
Speaker 2: Why the fuck are we doing this?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 2: This is the definition of if it ain't broke, don't
Speaker 2: fix it, and here they are doing this. I don't
Speaker 2: get this. I mean, I went off on Twitter last night.
Speaker 2: If you want to go read my tweets and see,
Speaker 2: and I've cooled down a little bit, but.
Speaker 4: This is not much, but it sounds of it.
Speaker 2: Well, this is insane. To me, Yeah, it really don't
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 4: I agree, I don't think it's needed. I think with
Speaker 4: any of these competitions you're having, the worst thing you
Speaker 4: can do is to extend them. I think people want
Speaker 4: these over as quickly as possible. So to add ten seconds,
Speaker 4: to add gimme key gimme key shots, I think.
Speaker 3: Just makes it.
Speaker 4: No, I mean I think it makes it. It just
Speaker 4: drags it out even longer, and you don't need to.
Speaker 4: But again, the format of the ten seconds, I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, no, you're just extending it.
Speaker 2: No, this is where you're actually wrong. This is where
Speaker 2: you're actually wrong. This is why the three point contest
Speaker 2: was perfect. Okay, there was nothing wrong with them. In fact,
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong. You guys have been going
Speaker 2: to a lot of All Star weekends. You've obviously watched
Speaker 2: a ton of them. Has there ever been an All
Speaker 2: Star Saturday Night where people left that building and went, oh, damn,
Speaker 2: you know what really sucked? Three point contest was brutal man.
Speaker 2: I really brought the night down. No, it never happened.
Speaker 2: If anything, people would go, well, you know what was
Speaker 2: actually one of the better events All Star saturnity. There
Speaker 2: was a three point contest that was better than dunk contest.
Speaker 2: It was a little more exciting.
Speaker 3: Whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Always it always delivered because it's always it's just the
Speaker 2: best shooters in the world with the sixty seconds, which
Speaker 2: was honestly, it was like us shooting for fifty wedgies.
Speaker 2: It was just a perfect amount of time. You know,
Speaker 2: you sort of had to rush, but you still obviously
Speaker 2: could get it off. There was nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2: It always delivered.
Speaker 3: It delivered. I wouldn't say you walk out of the
Speaker 3: building and say, gosh, the three point contest is just
Speaker 3: chilling me through my bones, right.
Speaker 2: I didn't definitely didn't say that.
Speaker 3: You said you're excited about it leaving the building.
Speaker 2: There have been nights, there have been definitely nights where
Speaker 2: we've been like the best part was also was the
Speaker 2: three point contest, because the dunk contest suck.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, more so more so because because it's
Speaker 3: like it's even keeled. It just it never gets too
Speaker 3: high and never gets too low. It's never amazing, it's
Speaker 3: never bad. It's never bad.
Speaker 2: It's like the No Dunk's podcast daily podcast. That's bad bad,
Speaker 2: it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it never hits it out of the park.
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's always there for you. It's always perfect. There's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with average, is my point.
Speaker 3: It's good. Listen, it is good. It is good to
Speaker 3: at least have something that will never disappoint because sometimes
Speaker 3: the dunk contest does. That's fair. I think I would
Speaker 3: rather than take away the rack with five money balls
Speaker 3: on it. I think they added that a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago. Don't see why they added that. That just
Speaker 3: changed the point value, just makes bakes numbers big. I'd
Speaker 3: rather them change that than take away two shots. These
Speaker 3: are Listen, there's two shots that they're adding where guys
Speaker 3: are shooting from now from from these spots. So like,
Speaker 3: who cares? I don't, I don't care. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: like everybody is doing it. That's exactly what My mother
Speaker 3: in law went to the Hawks game the other day.
Speaker 3: Somebody shot from the logo Trey Young did he shot
Speaker 3: from the Hawk's logo. She texted me and said, Trey
Speaker 3: Young is shooting from Alpharetta, which is an Atlanta suburb.
Speaker 3: It's a real Matt Devlin Chuck swirsky line hilarious, Like
Speaker 3: every broadcast says, he's shooting from the suburbs. So that's
Speaker 3: what casual fans are seeing. Why can't you shoot one ball, skeets.
Speaker 3: It's one ball, it's ten seconds, yeah, one ball from
Speaker 3: each yeh from yeah.
Speaker 2: So why not just put a rack there if you
Speaker 2: really want to.
Speaker 3: I hear too many again, There was no task.
Speaker 2: There was nothing wrong with the contest. There wasn't no
Speaker 2: so we didn't even need to try this and lead
Speaker 2: to go back to that point where you're like, you're
Speaker 2: worried about the extra ten seconds. This contest was so
Speaker 2: good that back in the day we used to split
Speaker 2: screen these guys and they would shoot at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and okay, it was fine. You know, you're trying to
Speaker 2: keep track of both sides of the screen. But they
Speaker 2: were like, you know what this contest is, so there's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. People enjoy like to see a
Speaker 2: guy try and catch on fire from the three point lane.
Speaker 2: That they got rid of that. They actually made this
Speaker 2: event longer in terms of a television sort of production,
Speaker 2: so that's the flip side of it. It was like,
Speaker 2: this is great, let's just see each guy go and
Speaker 2: that has worked out as well. Now task is right.
Speaker 2: You know, why did they have to add that's the
Speaker 2: money the all moneyball rack. I'm with you. I hated
Speaker 2: it at the time because I love the history of
Speaker 2: like we can always compare, you know, back to like
Speaker 2: eighty six when this thing came into play, we can
Speaker 2: always compare. So that sort of screwed up the scoring,
Speaker 2: but at least it was still twenty five shots. And
Speaker 2: task these balls, these little mountain dew zones. The thing
Speaker 2: I hate about it. Here's the biggest reason why I
Speaker 2: hate a it. These guys. The best thing I would
Speaker 2: have done a three point contest, excuse me, is when
Speaker 2: a guy came which is on fire. Okay, he's hit,
Speaker 2: he's hit four or five, six in a row. There's
Speaker 2: a rhythm to it, the crowd starts building. You've been
Speaker 2: in the arena, you know that's true. And now, unless
Speaker 2: I'm mistaken, and these guys are gonna shoot these stupid
Speaker 2: mountain dew green balls at the end of their five racks, like,
Speaker 2: unless they're gonna do their five racks and then run
Speaker 2: up to the top to take these three point shots,
Speaker 2: these deep three point shots, well now you're gonna like
Speaker 2: you're gonna mess sort of with the rhythm of it all,
Speaker 2: because now you gotta end that second rack and go
Speaker 2: back to this weird green ball and shoot that from
Speaker 2: deep and it's just gonna be a different shot. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe a guy hits it and continues and you're right,
Speaker 2: But I don't think so. I don't think. I'm telling
Speaker 2: you right.
Speaker 3: Now, got the rhythm and he's got the distance.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't so. I I just really, I'm just so
Speaker 2: confused why you had to mess with with something that worked.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest problem.
Speaker 6: With it because of money. Is to sell a poison
Speaker 6: fizzy drink.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 6: No, that's sales initiative doing this. I'm bleeping all of
Speaker 6: mentions of that good. I knew Lee would be on
Speaker 6: my SAT the commercial.
Speaker 3: The commercial where the guy is calling the beads running
Speaker 3: down the bottle commercial.
Speaker 6: Okay, sure, but that's all it is. I think is
Speaker 6: just marketing. Is just the sales team was like, hey,
Speaker 6: we just sold We're making an extra five million bucks
Speaker 6: on the three point competition. We have to wedge this
Speaker 6: in somehow. It's has nothing to do with making it better.
Speaker 6: Or making it more excited. I agree with you, Skates,
Speaker 6: it's nothing wrong with the three point competition. They're just
Speaker 6: it's just a cash grab.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and ideally the winner would get some cut of
Speaker 3: that because every winner obviously, you know, makes whatever figure
Speaker 3: it is they win. Is it a six digit figure,
Speaker 3: is it is it a fifty k? They're all they're
Speaker 3: all very pumped to win the contest. They're all very
Speaker 3: pumped to win that extra money. And Mountain Dew is
Speaker 3: definitely sorry JD, I mentioned it again.
Speaker 6: It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 3: They're obviously paying to get those two spots on the floor.
Speaker 3: I don't know if one's a green spot one's a red,
Speaker 3: But sorry JD. They have two different products, multiple products.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the winner should also get a cut of
Speaker 3: that as well. Listen, they'll get rid of it next
Speaker 3: your skeets, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: This will be the dunk wheel version of the three
Speaker 2: point contest. I hope it will. I'm I'm convinced this
Speaker 2: will not make the contest any better. Yeah, And people
Speaker 2: on Twitter are disagreeing with me. They're like they love
Speaker 2: the idea of obviously the deep shots that these guys take.
Speaker 2: Like you said, task in games that Lillard and Tray
Speaker 2: they can pull up from there. I just don't think
Speaker 2: within the context of the way that's already set up.
Speaker 2: I just think it's gonna screw with the rhythm of
Speaker 2: these guys, which to me is the most exciting part.
Speaker 2: When a guy like Lee Ellis can even hit a
Speaker 2: couple in a row, and that's the fun part. And
Speaker 2: I just now, now you've got to go back to
Speaker 2: this longer range, and that will likely be a miss
Speaker 2: because it's a much more difficult shot, And then it
Speaker 2: sort of spoils the moment for me.
Speaker 4: It could have just moved one of the racks back
Speaker 4: there if they wanted to do it, that's what you want.
Speaker 2: I guess if you really gotta rock and jock this shit,
Speaker 2: there's no reason to do it like this is the
Speaker 2: thing with the All Star Game. Go nuts, get crazy,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to try, because no one likes it.
Speaker 2: It already stinks, so get creative. No one was saying
Speaker 2: that about the three point contest. We weren't saying it
Speaker 2: was garbage, or it was boring, or it wasn't delivery.
Speaker 2: No one was saying that that's that's my issue with this.
Speaker 3: But here we are people going to leave the building
Speaker 3: and say, God, that stupid spot back there behind the
Speaker 3: arc that killed it. Like if if it didn't have
Speaker 3: a big Mountain de logo and it was just an
Speaker 3: extra shot or or an extra rack because guys shoot
Speaker 3: from there? Now, will that kill it? Like if it
Speaker 3: was less of a gimmick, if it was less about
Speaker 3: money and it was more just about where guys shoot.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think people would be like upset.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I don't think anyone's gonna leave
Speaker 3: the building and say, God, it's find a Mountain Dew
Speaker 3: bottle and crush it and throw it in the garbage.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's it. I mean yeah, recycle, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like what, Yeah, you should put more time on the
Speaker 2: clock and chug them out and do before you take
Speaker 2: the shot, and then if you chug it fast enough,
Speaker 2: you get an extra two points. But then, yeah, if
Speaker 2: you don't recycle, you lose a point. Like what are
Speaker 2: we doing? There's not.
Speaker 4: Just believe it, man, This does feel like a change
Speaker 4: just for the sake of making a change.
Speaker 2: I actually hope that Mountain Dew all this up. I
Speaker 2: hope it's on them and not someone else in the
Speaker 2: NBA office going wow, we got to make the three
Speaker 2: point contest better.
Speaker 3: No, you don't.
Speaker 2: I hope that this is just a cash grab. All
Speaker 2: the money Maury losses in China. They're like, we gotta
Speaker 2: get it back in Mountain Dew dollars. I mean, I like,
Speaker 2: I actually respect that more sell out at least I
Speaker 2: hope that is the reason.
Speaker 5: But I should have got a better sponsor. I think
Speaker 5: that's it, Mountain Dew. It's all about being extreme the
Speaker 5: three point contest. It's not extreme. Dunks are extreme, half
Speaker 5: court shots are extreme. We could have had a full
Speaker 5: on half court shot contest with a green ball. This
Speaker 5: solves everything. We're not messing with a three point contest.
Speaker 5: People love half quarters. That's what's missing with shooting stars
Speaker 5: being gone. Just back it up, chug Ado, knock down
Speaker 5: a forty five footter, and whoever makes the most of
Speaker 5: them wins a lifetime supply of Code Red.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little disappointing that they're going to
Speaker 3: go back to that spot. It is going to be
Speaker 3: a green ball, so it's going to be different, and
Speaker 3: it's going to be a pedestal. Yeah, it's not a
Speaker 3: rack release. It makes it a little.
Speaker 2: It's also it's not gonna be that ridiculous of shot.
Speaker 2: I think people are maybe in their heads thinking it's
Speaker 2: like around half court. It isn't. It's not. It's like
Speaker 2: not even like a logo type of shot that we call,
Speaker 2: you know, logo liter or stuff.
Speaker 3: Like that, like we're the big three shoot there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: right right, four point shot or whatever they have.
Speaker 2: Well, see, I hope I'm proven wrong. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's gonna help the three point contest. And again, I
Speaker 2: just don't get why you had to mess with it
Speaker 2: at all unless it was just a straight up Mount
Speaker 2: Dew cash grab. And if that's case, Mountain Dew, talk
Speaker 2: to us, man, I'll hit you with the I'll hit
Speaker 2: you with the three point hot take coming up in
Speaker 2: five minutes. I'm gonna blow your mind, guys, all right,
Speaker 2: popping off like a fresh bottle of Mountain Dew.
Speaker 3: No good. You wouldn't wear the do the do belt buckley.
Speaker 4: We don't want that dirty money I do.
Speaker 3: He's gonna you're gone out from the podcast.
Speaker 2: You have to bleed me one hundred times, all right,
Speaker 2: So we're gonna be stepping on the beach a little
Speaker 2: later today. As I said, but let's get in the mood. Guys.
Speaker 2: Got a few questions for you already here. Hey, guys,
Speaker 2: do you have any predictions on who wins All Star
Speaker 2: Game m v P this year? Based on the format?
Speaker 2: I would put Trey Young as the runaway winner. P S.
Speaker 2: I'm once again disappointed in what you omitted in the
Speaker 2: last pun gun. Norman bowel, Baby, that's good. We were talking, well,
Speaker 2: what was it called, NBA diarrhea?
Speaker 6: Would we Tommy Trump trumbles?
Speaker 2: All right, Norman, that's good.
Speaker 6: That's a really good one.
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, I go to do it when we
Speaker 2: have forever to think about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw all this chatter going around on Twitter
Speaker 3: about the pun gun, and I was unsure of the category.
Speaker 3: I saw that Trey and Skeets were trapped in the
Speaker 3: the loop of diarrhea, but I was I was uncertain
Speaker 3: where it came from. Where did it start? Yeah? But
Speaker 3: it was it was it was all those super Bowl snacks,
Speaker 3: all the Super Bowl snacks, right, I can't pump for that.
Speaker 2: So that was from Frank in North York, Toronto. Great
Speaker 2: pun gun suggestion, but again, a lot easier when you've
Speaker 2: got some time to think about it. We're right on
Speaker 2: the spot. But I love it, Norman Bell, that's good.
Speaker 3: I was partaking, by the way I grabbed a virus
Speaker 3: from the hospital. I was in definitely partaking in the
Speaker 3: the challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, what do you think about All
Speaker 2: Star Game MVP. He's got Trey Young as the runaway winner.
Speaker 2: That caught me by surprise a little bit. I don't
Speaker 2: definitely think of Trey Young as a runaway winner as
Speaker 2: an All Star Game MVP favorite.
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's far fetched to see Trey
Speaker 5: Young winning an All Star MVP if he's able to
Speaker 5: hit a few logo bombs from that due zone get
Speaker 5: the crowd pumped up. I think he's definitely in the mix.
Speaker 5: If you're starting the game, you're in the mix. For me,
Speaker 5: the guy is gonna be Anthony Davis, only because he
Speaker 5: won All Star MVP when it was in New Orleans.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking maybe he'll want to do the same sort
Speaker 5: of thing playing in his hometown of Chicago. They come
Speaker 5: out and try and get him fifty points and twenty
Speaker 5: boards or whatever you had the first time around.
Speaker 2: Yet fifty two intennis.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so give me an Anthony Davis.
Speaker 4: I'd pick Russell Westbrook every year he's in it because
Speaker 4: he just doesn't know how to not play intently intensely.
Speaker 4: I know I can't. I can't get my words out.
Speaker 2: I pissed.
Speaker 4: Pronounce it?
Speaker 2: Whoa, I pissed. Pronounce it.
Speaker 3: Good? It's funnier, I kind of, I know it's it anyway.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, I just picked Wasser Westbrook.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Okay, interesting about interesting about picking Westbrook again, though, Lee,
Speaker 2: I mean I hear your reasoning, sort of. You sort
Speaker 2: of got it out there. The last five All Star
Speaker 2: Game MVPs, though Durant last year thirty one points, ten
Speaker 2: to fifteen shooting Lebron twenty nine, ten and eight, a
Speaker 2: d the fifty two and ten, and then Westbrook won
Speaker 2: the two before that. One of them he started, one
Speaker 2: he did not. The point of that is in two
Speaker 2: and fifteen he came off the bench and scored a ton.
Speaker 2: But it is rare for an All Star Game MVP
Speaker 2: to calm off the bench. But Westbrook's already done it,
Speaker 2: so I guess it's in play that he could do
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not used to public squeaking, I piss pronounced.
Speaker 4: It had a lot of my words. That's the two
Speaker 4: Runnings classic stuff.
Speaker 3: That I love. What you looked at it?
Speaker 6: Hit up breadbox tonight to ask you, do.
Speaker 2: You have a sort of a favorite in mine right now?
Speaker 2: Or Trey Young?
Speaker 3: If you agree with that, I take you on a
Speaker 3: stead kompo. I think it's his time. I think you're
Speaker 3: right to win one because he hasn't won it yet.
Speaker 3: It's the same line of thinking as he had last year,
Speaker 3: but now he's an MVP. Time for him to go
Speaker 3: get one.
Speaker 2: And to add to that, I'm also teamy honest here.
Speaker 2: His team hasn't won yet against Team Lebron, so you
Speaker 2: know he doesn't want to lose three in a row
Speaker 2: to LBJ. Now he's gotta get a victory and he's
Speaker 2: locked in. And oh maybe because he can't do like
Speaker 2: his wrestling maneuvers before the start of an All Star game,
Speaker 2: like he can win the regular season, win his bucks.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's got to teach it to them.
Speaker 5: He's got a draft Damian Lillard. That's a musk.
Speaker 3: That guy loves wrestling.
Speaker 2: Hell be a perfect bear. Yeah, he should just draft
Speaker 2: all the wrestling fans are right and then do a
Speaker 2: little royal rumble and then come out and win MVP.
Speaker 2: One more here, one more?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: Hey? No dunkin Donuts. As a Canadian, I can't help
Speaker 2: but proclaim my affinity and loyalty to Tim Horton's. I've
Speaker 2: enjoyed Timmy's all my life, from the tim Bits to
Speaker 2: the iced caps to the French Manillas. I truly love
Speaker 2: this stuff, and I'm sure every Canadian are with me
Speaker 2: on this. However, I also spent a fair amount of
Speaker 2: my life traveling to the US on vacations, and sadly,
Speaker 2: Timmy's in the US just isn't the same as it
Speaker 2: is back home. Additionally, the main alternative for many Americans
Speaker 2: is dunkin Donuts, which I've had a few times myself,
Speaker 2: and I still believe that it's just isn't on par
Speaker 2: with Tim Horton's. I'm curious to know what is your
Speaker 2: take on this and how the adjustment period has been
Speaker 2: in trying to find an alternative down in Atlanta. Also,
Speaker 2: congratulations to Task and his wife on the new addition
Speaker 2: to their family. This is from Enrique in Toronto but born.
Speaker 3: In Mississauga, Saga shout out, yes that's right.
Speaker 6: Hey shot it from Saga.
Speaker 3: Would do we have to bleep this out too, JD.
Speaker 3: All this talk about French vanilla disgusting, all that sugar,
Speaker 3: ice caps, all.
Speaker 6: That, Hey pretty gross. So I had I've had an
Speaker 6: ice cap once from Tim Hortons and they're gross.
Speaker 3: Say you can tone it down with your milk selection
Speaker 3: and town down the sugar a little bit. Some people
Speaker 3: put chocolate milk in it. Crazy what wow, wacky?
Speaker 2: But you don't like tim Hortons, right, tasslic as a Canadian.
Speaker 3: You're not. I don't like the coffee beans. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: see that's why I wanted not my taste, not my
Speaker 3: The coffee is not all the good. Let's be honest.
Speaker 3: A tim bit, Sure, give me a sour cream glazed.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: We discovered that some Tim Hortons don't even carry the
Speaker 6: sour cream donut or tim bit like the cafe version,
Speaker 6: the one that was by our airbnb in Toronto.
Speaker 2: Yeah what yeah, No, Tim Hortons has gone down a
Speaker 2: little bit in quality control.
Speaker 6: There's there's a burger king by Tim Horton.
Speaker 2: You used to be able to go to tim Wartons
Speaker 2: and you it didn't matter the line that was there,
Speaker 2: you'd be in and out in minute. Yet under I
Speaker 2: went up before I was coming over. When we were
Speaker 2: stuck up in Toronto doing the show talking to these
Speaker 2: guys down here, I would sometimes be in in a
Speaker 2: Tim Hortons for fifteen minutes getting a coffee.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was that poor on getting a bad coffee.
Speaker 2: I have to say, well, yeah, I mean I I
Speaker 2: it's fine totally.
Speaker 4: When my very first moved to Toronto, you know, everyone's
Speaker 4: telling me about Tim Horton, and I went in there
Speaker 4: and I started getting the double doubles, I was like, yep, great,
Speaker 4: throwing me a blueberry muffin too perfect. I have to say.
Speaker 4: I have to say, with time and maybe growth and maturity,
Speaker 4: coffee just not that special. I'm sorry all my Canadian
Speaker 4: friends and family and people I love there, but.
Speaker 2: It's not that good.
Speaker 5: There's a reason the double double is the most popular.
Speaker 5: You're getting a lot of milk and a lot of sugar.
Speaker 5: You're overwhelming the coffee. It is equivalent to Dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 3: They are the same, Yeah, exactly. They're the biggest chain
Speaker 3: and that makes sense, right.
Speaker 2: A lot of people think McDonald's has better coffee than
Speaker 2: both of those. They've ever had all three like close
Speaker 2: enough together to know how they compare.
Speaker 3: Donalds even has a dark Rose.
Speaker 6: Harts.
Speaker 3: No, they do. Yeah, they're trying to compete. I do
Speaker 3: like how they pour it you or your coffee. They
Speaker 3: pour it from that old style diner Caraffe. Yeah, into
Speaker 3: it tastes like.
Speaker 2: Carap Sorry, Enrique, you know, not the biggest Timmy Hoes
Speaker 2: fans here in the world, but I look when I
Speaker 2: go home.
Speaker 3: I grab one.
Speaker 5: Every time we've been in Toronto since we since we moved,
Speaker 5: I've gone to Tim Horton's and got a double double
Speaker 5: in a maple dep.
Speaker 3: This like that choice.
Speaker 2: The smell of Tim Hortons is better than the actual
Speaker 2: taste of Tim Hortons.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. All right, let's get
Speaker 2: to tweet the night.
Speaker 3: Tweet over night. Wow Twitter, Yes, I.
Speaker 4: Was on tweeter the night duties last night and has
Speaker 4: always have got one this morning, now, ski Se you
Speaker 4: kind of referenced actually early you sort of mentioned it
Speaker 4: that Chandler Parsons has been waived by the Atlandhawks, and
Speaker 4: WOS tweeted that out, saying he's been waves and he's
Speaker 4: expiring twenty five point one million contract to create roster
Speaker 4: space to complete the fourteen trade. So that really turns
Speaker 4: the page and ends the four year contract that Chandler
Speaker 4: Parson signed back in twenty sixteen, ninety four million dollars
Speaker 4: he signed for in Memphis. Can you guess how many
Speaker 4: games he played for that four years and ninety four
Speaker 4: million dollars?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, that's tough.
Speaker 3: Four years. Well three of the zip this year? Did
Speaker 3: he get on the floor?
Speaker 2: He has played.
Speaker 4: He has played games.
Speaker 3: This year, handful last year with the Grizzlies. Put me
Speaker 3: down for.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, forty eight.
Speaker 3: That's a good guess.
Speaker 4: For you.
Speaker 5: Oh man, No, no, I can't, can't do it.
Speaker 3: Give me seventy seven, Give me sixty two.
Speaker 4: No, he played officially in a total of one hundred games.
Speaker 4: One hundred games.
Speaker 3: He played for.
Speaker 4: Yes, he played thirty four in his first season, thirty
Speaker 4: six in his second, twenty five last season, and five
Speaker 4: this season.
Speaker 3: So a million per game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just yeah, I mean, yeah, pretty sad. He's obviously
Speaker 4: away from the game right now dealing with some injuries
Speaker 4: he sustained in a car accident. But his NBA career
Speaker 4: maybe over a tough way, of course for it to
Speaker 4: win there. But yeah, those injuries, those Knay's just never
Speaker 4: were able to hold up for him.
Speaker 3: Are that?
Speaker 4: So definitely looks like we've seen the last of chan
Speaker 4: La Passa's playing in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite possibly. All right, let's get to pick them
Speaker 2: results from Tuesday night in the Association. Task ties it
Speaker 2: all up. We once again had a big line involving
Speaker 2: the Spurs. This time it was the Lakers. They were
Speaker 2: favored huge and they covered no problem. Lebron James catching fire.
Speaker 2: I know we didn't get a chance to talk about
Speaker 2: some of the games last night because we were talking
Speaker 2: about the trade and we're talking about the Knicks, and
Speaker 2: then I got upset about the three point contest. But
Speaker 2: it was nice to have Giannis versus ion and then
Speaker 2: we had this Lebron turning into Steph Curry for a
Speaker 2: second there hitting all those three. So anyway, Task gets
Speaker 2: the win. Everybody else takes the loss because we all
Speaker 2: had the Spurs to cover, So everybody's one and one
Speaker 2: early in the month of February. Also, we know Task
Speaker 2: has to pay off January's Pick Them lost. We got
Speaker 2: something in mind maybe for the live show in Chicago.
Speaker 2: We won't tell Tasty about it, but this could be
Speaker 2: pretty fun. So we might be sitting on that one
Speaker 2: a little bit, but don't worry. We'll get it up
Speaker 2: on of course social media once we do it and
Speaker 2: all that. But anyway, what's tonight's game? We're all tied
Speaker 2: at one game apiece.
Speaker 3: The Clippers who play the Spurs in our opening game
Speaker 3: for the pick and payoff on Monday Night. They're hosting
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat. Heat come to town. Heat obviously a
Speaker 3: very good team this season. They're thirty four and fifteen,
Speaker 3: the Clippers thirty five and fifteen, their best fifty games
Speaker 3: starting franchise history. And the line seven and a half
Speaker 3: for the Clippers at home.
Speaker 2: Wow seven and a half.
Speaker 3: And baby on ESPN, O what you get.
Speaker 5: Clippers are rounding in the form. They've been playing some
Speaker 5: of their best ball lately. So I'm gonna go with
Speaker 5: the Clips.
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna take the Heat. Is I think
Speaker 4: I think seven and a half? Is that what you said?
Speaker 3: Seven and a half?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so eight points. I'll take the Heat to cover.
Speaker 2: That, so will I because I think this is gonna
Speaker 2: be one of these very very like one point close ones,
Speaker 2: and my gut says it's gonna be like a six
Speaker 2: point Clippers win, so which is why I would go
Speaker 2: with the heat. I'm with the heat as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me the national TV game for the Clippers.
Speaker 3: I think they can hold them off by eight or more.
Speaker 2: All right, two of us got the clips, two of
Speaker 2: us got the Heat. That's it for this day edition. Yeah,
Speaker 2: always always, but the average for us seed the bar
Speaker 2: is so high for us that it's a great average
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 5: Always classic exactly you're right, right, Yeah, yeah, I guess
Speaker 5: it's hard to figure the true quality of each individual show,
Speaker 5: and they're all classic. But like you're saying, we're always
Speaker 5: here for you.
Speaker 2: Exactly right, And we're gonna be here for you later
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