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A trade we do. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.960 Indeed, we got a big trade happening Tuesday night late 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.399 Tuesday night, four team, twelve player deal. So we can 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:26.360 tackle this by each team here, I think the Rockets. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.120 Let me let me set the scene for you. The 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.479 Rockets get Robert Covington, Jordan Bell and a twenty twenty 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.760 four second round pick by the way the Warriors. The 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:39.360 Hawks get Clint Capella and Nane The Wolves get Malik Beasley, Juancho, 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:43.880 Hernan Gomez, Evan Turner, Jared Vanderbilt and a lottery protected 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.000 twenty twenty first round pick. That's by way of the 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.200 Nets and the Nuggets. Yes, the Nuggets are the fourth 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.920 team in the mix here. They get Gerald Green, Bats, 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.960 Jupp Shabaz Napier, Noah vonleh and a twenty twenty first 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:01.000 round pick by way of the Rockets. Wow Wow, wow, Wow. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.640 Where do you want to start? Which team do you 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.360 want to start with? And what they got or what 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:06.000 they gave up? 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.079 Let's start with the juicy Rockets. Everybody wants to hate them. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.280 What are they doing? No center? I hate them? It 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.240 is weird. PJ. Tucker is technically going to be their center. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.840 Robert Covington is their tallest player. He's going to be 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.639 six to eight. But they're gonna be running out James Harden, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.400 Russell Westbrook, Robert Covington, PJ. Tucker, and Daniel House. Probably 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.919 for now, they're gonna get killed by Anthony Davis and 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.200 Nikola Jokich when it comes to playing them. That probably 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.280 get somebody here in the next twenty four hours before. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.040 But on the offensive end, it's going to be interesting. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.639 Five guys out beyond the three point line, stretch it out, 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.400 and I think it's going to help James Harden get 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.320 into the lane and score, and Russell Westbrook, especially because 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.000 he's not a three point shooter, get into the lane 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.119 and score. So it's gonna help them offensively. And Clint 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.480 Capella wasn't a big piece for them offensively. It's weird 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.799 to say that, but they were thirtieth in place finished 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:03.160 you pick and roll that according to Synergy Sports, and 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.600 the great Kevin O'Connor. On the defense end is the 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.239 scary part. What are you gonna do? 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.440 Yeah, I guess that's not the concern of Daryl Mori, right, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.240 He's like, let's see if we can just score one 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:15.960 hundred and fifty points a game, and if the other 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.360 team can match us, that's good for them. But you wonder, 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.320 of course, how much of this deal was made because 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.480 they wanted to move on from Capella versus a directive 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.480 from the ownership to say we need to shed some 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.640 salary because which they did in this crist they did, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.079 and that certainly to me seems to be more overriding 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.880 factor than thinking that Capella can't help them because they 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.600 need him. I think they need so. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.720 But I think that the Rockets still in Covington are 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.040 getting the best player that was traded in this entire deal. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.520 So they're shaving money off their cap, which is surely 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.280 good for their owner, and they're getting the best guy. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.400 So this is no doubt a win for the Rockets. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.120 And honestly, I think Jordan bella do alright playing with 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.880 Mike d'An TONI welcome to the rejuvenation machine that guy 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.560 got Earl Clark paid if he goes and he's willing 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.720 to be a switchy defender and just roll to the 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.440 ram and catch the alley oops. There was hype about 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.960 Jordan bell becoming the next Draymond green Back when he 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.000 was playing with the Golden State Warriors. It was a 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.600 big deal that the Bulls traded him for cash considerations. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.000 All of that has gone into the past. But he's 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.960 a solid player who's played in big games. I think 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.880 he'll be helpful at least sopping up minutes. You can't 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.040 just have all six to six guys and one six 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:20.960 foot eight guys, so at least I don't know, Jordan 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:25.560 Bell's what six foot nine giant amongst men, but I 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.440 think he'll be helpful. I think he'll be a good 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:28.559 player in D'Antoni system. 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.320 This is fascinating. This like pushing all their chips in 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.400 on this idea of just going small ball. I mean, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.000 it makes it exciting. You were saying it on the 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.480 other podcast. Ass It's like, all right, this is unique. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.680 Let's see if it can work in you know, potentially 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.800 three or four playoffs series. They've done well so far. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:45.680 I mean in the regular season here when there's been 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.560 no Capella, they're four and oh recently in this past 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.960 week where he's not out there, and they're leaning into that, 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:52.680 and they've got a really good record overall even when 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:53.960 Copella's not playing. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.880 And they're good when he's on the bench and they're 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.320 actually better at kicking the other teams. But because teams 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.839 are definitely caught off guard, nobody else does it. Yeah, 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.479 but that's it's different in the postseason, that's for sure. 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:05.400 That'll change. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.000 Yeah, Covington makes sense though on this Rocket team. I 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.320 think we all agree with that, being a career thirty 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.600 six percent three point shooter, so he's good from distance 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.919 on a really good volume this year. Eight attempts per 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.600 thirty six minutes from Pelton. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.320 There, that's gonna look like nothing by the time he's 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.520 done with the Rockets. Yeah, eight attempt in thirty six minutes. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.159 That's like a half Yeah, No, you're right, and and yeah, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.320 they're not done. Look, we might have breaking news while 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.440 we record this podcast for crying out loud, so somebody 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.440 keep their eye on Twitter, of course. But Tim McMahon 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.720 saying Houston does want or they're on the hunt, I 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.479 guess for additional help at center. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:36.680 They're not. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.080 There's there's no move to be made here for like 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.440 Andre Drummond or something like that. But they're gonna get 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.400 up big yeah, yeah, who knows with him, but. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.200 They can't shoot. I don't think I don't think they 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.599 would go get an Andre Drummond because okay, they're trying 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.120 to I mean, ideally they'd want like at Brook Lopez, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.600 you know, like the Bucks do and spread it out 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.279 and let Giannis roam, and that's what they do. They're 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.960 just gonna play. Ioball And I think I mentioned Russell 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.640 Westbrook getting into the paint. We talked about it last year. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.000 As soon as he gets beaten by was it the 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.000 Jazz last year in the playoffs? The thought, sorry, it 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.000 was the Blazers, the Jazz the year before, two years 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.240 in a row. Russell Westbrook goes out with a whimper, 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.680 a guy who is an MVP and obviously an all 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.720 start and again and all start this year. But we 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.400 look at him and say, that's I mean, that's not 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.680 a great performance for an MVP. And this will help 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.280 because he's not gonna shoot the three. He is going 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.080 to be that boulder, that avalanche coming down that lane 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.200 and hopefully he'll be able to score with no defender 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.080 in there for a Clint Capela, a defender that will 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.800 be you know, spread to the three point line. So 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.960 it's gonna it will help them. And I understand people 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.440 hate the Rockets, but I don't know, as a guy 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.000 who's watched basketball for a long time, I'm excited to 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.560 see something entirely different. Although I think, yeah, they're not 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.920 done there. They need somebody big or else they're gonna 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:53.599 get mopped. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.280 Yeah, they have to. And also, like what happens if PJ. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.960 Tucker gets hurt. I mean, you're they're asking him to 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.720 do a ton already as a six to sixth guy 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.000 to play center against some of these behemoths in the West. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.120 I mean, is it that far fetched that he goes 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:06.799 down with an injury? 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.960 Then then what I mean it's he's already injured. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.040 Yeah, right right, And I guess you could say, well 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.320 Capella's injured as well. He's got pentterfescionatis. I get that, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.400 but man, yeah, they got to get somebody in case 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.080 of emergency, another. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.080 Big, well even just game to game with foul trouble. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.440 If he's defending pigs too, I mean, he's you know, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.360 he's gonna have to use his muscle to try to 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.840 slow some of those guys down. So but you know, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.520 this is this is fascinating with what the Rockets are 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.840 trying here, and if it comes off, then Daryl Morey 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.520 is gonna look like a genius, right, because it's never 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.400 really been done before successfully like this, So he's just decided, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:39.880 what the hell, let's try it. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.440 Yeah, turning Capella into Covington Really all right, let's get 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:43.680 to some of the other teams. So let's go with 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.120 the Hawks. They're the one that get Clint Cappella here. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.800 What does everybody think about that? Their name has obviously 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.040 come up the Hawks have over the past month or 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.200 so with the idea of trying to get a center 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.040 Steven Adams name, Andre Drummond's name, of course, you know, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.160 even a guy like Duwayne Denman coming back to the 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.400 Hawks like the the idea that they need a center 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.160 for the future, peers that they've got one in Clint Cappella. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.320 Does do you like the idea? Do you think the 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.280 pairing of him and Collins could make sense? What's your take? 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.520 I think of all the centers that the Hawks have 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.040 been linked to, Capella is the best one from a 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.800 combination of skills, fit and contract. Like I mean, maybe 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.480 you would like to have Dwayne Dedman making a little 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.960 bit less money, but Clint Capella is certainly better and 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.160 I think fit wise, he's happy to just be a 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.960 rim runner, and that's what John Collins is definitely best at. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.160 But maybe Collins can expand his game a little bit. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.520 He certainly seems to be comfortable trying to stretch out 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.600 a little bit. But uh, I would rather have Capella 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.640 than Andre drumming because think Capella, you're just gonna throw 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.360 them lobs. You don't have to waste any time with 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.599 post ups or anything like that. Cappella is more of 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.640 an impact defensively. Drumming one of the best rebounders of 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.960 all time. But Cappella is pretty close all things considered. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.800 So I think this is a win for the Hawks too. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.040 This is the rare trade where every team I think, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:52.720 good job. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:53.800 This is how it happens. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.719 Yeah, the Hawks can afford to take him on with 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.920 his salary too, because they've got so much cap space 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.840 going forward that it's not really going to hinder them, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.319 you know, next season. So if it works with Capella, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.000 then they get a pretty good player out of this, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.760 and if it doesn't, then it's not going to sabotage 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.120 him too much going forward in the future. So and 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.760 John Collins, yeah, I think that he's more suited to 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.560 just being a stretch guy rather than sort of being 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.040 in the post there they want him. He wants to 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.000 get out there shooting. He's more athletic, so having Compella 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.000 behind him, I think is going to help. And then 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:22.760 for Trey Young, it's good to have a guy who 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.920 knows how to finish around the room. So I like 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.080 it for the Hawks, and yeah, they were clearly looking 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.760 for a big man, and I think they got a 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.480 good one young guy contract they can easily afford, so 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.480 it makes no sense for them to not make this 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:35.080 sort of deal. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.320 He's good at definitely as a partner for Tree Young. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.000 I worry definitely about the overlap with Johnkins, John Collins, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:44.920 that's all he did. You come pick for me, come 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.360 pick for me, And now he's yeah, he's gotta change 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.520 up his game a little bit. But whatever you lose 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.480 there you gain with Clinn Coppella at least being some 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.520 sort of presence at the RAM defensively because John Collens 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.040 ain't that and the struggles, oh bad, that's where they 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.560 lose games. It's not an offense. So it's a chance 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.319 they took. They gave up Brooklyn's first round pick in 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:11.880 this and you know that's gonna be h fifteen approximately. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.360 Yeah, fifteen to seventeen probably, So there. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.640 It's worth Clint Cappella, who is cost controlled for the 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.319 next several years at around fifteen to sixteen mil. That's 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.720 a nice contract to take on. And yeah, they're benefiting 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.880 from a really good contract that that the Rockets signed 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:26.120 him to. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.360 Yeah, and they could always move if it doesn't work 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.520 at all. And they're like, oh, Capella and John Collins 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.760 can't play together, Well, they can move one of them. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.840 I mean, you're either you're either gonna move a very 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.520 movable contract in Capella or you're gonna say, wow, we 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.480 don't want to give max money like dollars to John Collins, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.319 so let's look to move him because that will be 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.720 coming up here soon too. So yeah, I'm with you guys. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.320 I like it from the Hawks, and it didn't really 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.319 cost them that much. They've already waved Chandler Parsons what 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.480 I was just saying this morning, then, ay, I mean, 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.360 I'd be shocked if he has not waved as well. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.400 So this is what they got. They got, they got 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.600 a center. They're gonna try it out, pair them with Collins, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.880 and I do like the idea of going, you know, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.280 we talked about the Rockets moving away from Capella in 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.079 the pick and roll, especially once Westbrook out there. But 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.679 they used to do it a lot. I mean they 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.800 used to do it a ton in Capella. Maybe that 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:10.559 he'll be able to get back to that with Tree 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.080 Young running that nine stop. That makes sense. What are 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:18.400 the Timberwolves landed a pick that Brooklyn twenty twenty first 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.280 rounder lottery protected you said task probably you know, fifteenth, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.120 maybe sixteenth, seventeen, somewhere in that range. But they go 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.720 and get a couple of nuggets in giving up Coventon. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.560 What does everybody think of this? From the Wolves side 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.079 of things? Are they even done? Is this all part 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.360 of a bigger plan to maybe still try and get 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:34.800 d'angela Russell or something else. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.080 Well, I like Malik Beasley coming back to them. I mean, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.040 Evan Turner's not going to stay. I wouldn't think, or 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.560 certainly not beyond this season. Juancho, nah, you know, he's 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.160 I don't. I don't think he's a part of their 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:45.920 long term plans. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.520 Either Beasley and Wancho or are both restricted free agency. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.080 Yes, but I think with the situation there for Beesley 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.920 and Denver, as someone had to go really, especially with 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.920 the emergence of Michael Porter Junior and so Beasley, they 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.599 move him out and the Nuggets get a pick in 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.840 return for him. But the Wolves, you figure they are 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.040 looking at making some sort of a bigger move here 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.079 because this is not really going to change too much 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.679 for them. For Karl Anthony Towns, I mean, Covington was 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.120 apparently a good friend of his in the locker room 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.040 Shooters Better Yeah, yeah, he. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:19.280 Fitted his friend Anthony town said he was the type 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:19.840 of player. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.199 That you sort of think they need to surround more 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.079 of with there with Towns, so you figure that there 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.559 is something bigger happening. But I like Beasley. I think 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:28.960 he can be a good player, and I just think 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.079 there wasn't enough minutes for him in Denver. Now he 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.000 goes to a situation where they absolutely need players and 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.839 he could he could thrive in that role. So I'm 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.080 gonna I'm gonna put this one down as incomplete because 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.240 I think the Wolves are still they simply have to 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:43.960 do something else. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.200 They got a first round pick and Malik Beasley basically 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:48.040 for rober Covington. 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.600 It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.839 It's a bit, it's a bit lateral. I guess, you know, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.920 they they need to get I think I wanted them 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.959 to get more for Rubber Compton. But maybe Malik Beasley 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.520 can go a twenty point per game. Guy, Wow, crazy, 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.000 I'm going crazy right now. He won't be that, but 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.599 he's a good shooter. Yeah, I'm a little underwhelmed, but 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.520 at least they're planning for the future a little bit 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.480 more a little bit, you know, with this the first 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.439 round pick as well, and they're saying, Okay, well, this 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.440 whole tigue, you know, situation here we're sort of going 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.959 for right now is not the best idea. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.480 Yeah, the Timberwolves were so unhappy with their point guard 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:26.840 situation they just traded all of them. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:27.280 Skeets. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:28.679 You might want to move to Minnesota. I think you 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.000 could get some time there in the backcourt because literally, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.240 who's going to pass the ball? Jarrett Culver, I suppose 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.920 is gonna function as their point guard. Wiggins is a 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.800 little bit of their point guard. But I mean, nobody's 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.000 setting the table for Karl Anthony Towns, nobody playing defense. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.160 But that just means their pick is getting better and better. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.240 So I think that's the biggest win for this trade. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.320 For the Timberwolves is that they're gonna be even worse 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.360 so they'll get a better player. And they got a pick. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.000 I mean, I know they wanted two first for Robert Covington, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.319 and he's the hottest name on the trade market, but 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.040 Robert Covington isn't probably worth two first round picks, So 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:00.920 they got one in a they can extend if they 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:01.199 want to. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.480 Yeah, and they didn't give up their pick, which is 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.400 the most important part exactly in that they talk about 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.199 D'Angel Russell. If they're gonna get him, they're gonna have 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.040 to give up their pick, and they got to hold 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.400 onto that. So that's a win in that regard. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.560 And then the surprise team in this deal, I think 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.560 that's fair to say was the Nuggets, because we were 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.680 seeing some sort of form of these moves, the Capella 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.040 to the Hawks, the Covington going to the Rockets. You know, 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.520 we've been talking about this for a little bit, but 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.880 the Nuggets sort of were not ever really involved in 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.120 the mix. And then last night they are here. Were 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.480 you shocked by that? You said, Lee that you thought, well, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.920 this makes sense moving on from those guys bas Lee 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.760 and Wantrell, because they just don't have really minutes like 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.520 they were getting minutes only because of injury. But you know, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.160 once all the guys are healthy and stuff like that, 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.200 their back sort of to the end of the bench. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.480 Were you shocked? This makes sense? What do you think? 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.440 Well, I think the Nuggets see themselves right now in 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.960 a position to contend. But they also thought, well, you 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.680 know what, we can also grab a first round pick 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.480 out of this deal, and we're gonna have to lose 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.840 one of these guys eventually at some point, so sure 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.880 we can facilitate, we can jump in here. Whether it 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.280 was going to be Monte Morris or it was going 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.560 to be Malik Beasley, you figured that one of those 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.560 guys wasn't going to be their long term So I 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.200 think the Nuggets were just in the right place at 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.120 the right time. They don't really lose any of their 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.120 status as contenders in my opinion right now. Beasley, I 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:17.480 think he's a good player. I think he can be 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.080 a good player, and given an opportunity for more minutes 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.520 than a bigger role, I'm interested to see how good 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:23.000 he can be. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.760 But yeah, the Nuggets, Oh, with Michael Porter Junior, like 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.760 you said, yeah, that's the first wing guy, and then 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.720 Tory Craig is the best defender. Yeah, so it's like 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:30.680 sort of Beasley's left in. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.560 The shop and they've still got Gary Harris out there 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.760 as well. Who's you know here now for now? Yeah, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.080 I mean Gary Harris. They paid a lot of money too. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.160 He hasn't quite lived up to it. But again, I 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.840 think you want to hang on to him right now. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.240 So yeah, if someone just says, hey, we'll give you 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.600 a first round pick for one of these guys you're 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.280 going to get rid of anyway, So you're sort of 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.120 having a bit of an eye to the future, why 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:49.440 not do that a few of the nuggets. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:50.680 That's exactly right. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.840 They have a little bit more draft equity. That's a 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.680 term I'm loving hearing a lot about during this trade deadline, 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.280 all about that draft equity. They've got it now for 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.360 guys who weren't in their rotation. I don't know if 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.560 there's a bigger set of four people in North America 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.880 Jancho fans than US four. But where's Wancho now? He's 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.120 in Minnesota, which is good because he wasn't really getting 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.840 any sort of run for Denver because Michael Porter made 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:18.200 him expendable. Tory Craig has made Malik Beasley expendable. Shabaz 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.240 Napier will be expendable because Montey Morris is there. So 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.280 maybe you're able to put Gary Harris in a deal 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.920 with Napier and this pick you just got and move 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.800 it for somebody who's a little bit more, you know, 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.000 a little bit higher quality player, and then you're just 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.080 able to take this giant collection of good players you 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.560 have and you're kind of funneling it into even better players. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.800 Yeah, they didn't take a step closer to the title. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.000 That's the I guess the unfortunate part if you're looking 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.800 at this from a Nuggets fans perspective right now, they 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.440 didn't get better in their rotation all that much. That's 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.480 that's the thing that we expected them to do, you know, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.960 with thirty hours here before the trade deadline, so that 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.920 could be in play. But they get a pick draft equity. Sure, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.360 all these other guys that came to the roster in 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:07.240 Schabbaz Napier, Noah von Leh, Gerald Green, Cada, Bates d Up, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:08.920