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Speaker 3: We got all sales. A trade we do.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we got a big trade happening Tuesday night late

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night, four team, twelve player deal. So we can

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Speaker 2: tackle this by each team here, I think the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me set the scene for you. The

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Speaker 2: Rockets get Robert Covington, Jordan Bell and a twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Hawks get Clint Capella and Nane The Wolves get Malik Beasley, Juancho,

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Speaker 2: Hernan Gomez, Evan Turner, Jared Vanderbilt and a lottery protected

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty first round pick. That's by way of the

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Speaker 2: Nets and the Nuggets. Yes, the Nuggets are the fourth

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Speaker 2: team in the mix here. They get Gerald Green, Bats,

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Speaker 2: Jupp Shabaz Napier, Noah vonleh and a twenty twenty first

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Speaker 2: round pick by way of the Rockets. Wow Wow, wow, Wow.

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to start? Which team do you

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the juicy Rockets. Everybody wants to hate them.

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Speaker 3: What are they doing? No center? I hate them? It

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Speaker 3: is weird. PJ. Tucker is technically going to be their center.

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Speaker 3: Robert Covington is their tallest player. He's going to be

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Speaker 3: six to eight. But they're gonna be running out James Harden,

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Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook, Robert Covington, PJ. Tucker, and Daniel House. Probably

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Speaker 3: for now, they're gonna get killed by Anthony Davis and

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Speaker 3: Nikola Jokich when it comes to playing them. That probably

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Speaker 3: But on the offensive end, it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Five guys out beyond the three point line, stretch it out,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's going to help James Harden get

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Speaker 3: and score. So it's gonna help them offensively. And Clint

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Speaker 3: Capella wasn't a big piece for them offensively. It's weird

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Speaker 3: the great Kevin O'Connor. On the defense end is the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's not the concern of Daryl Mori, right,

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Speaker 4: He's like, let's see if we can just score one

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Speaker 4: of course, how much of this deal was made because

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Speaker 5: But I think that the Rockets still in Covington are

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Speaker 5: So they're shaving money off their cap, which is surely

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Speaker 5: So this is no doubt a win for the Rockets.

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Speaker 5: And honestly, I think Jordan bella do alright playing with

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Speaker 5: All of that has gone into the past. But he's

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Speaker 2: This is fascinating. This like pushing all their chips in

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Speaker 2: on this idea of just going small ball. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And they're good when he's on the bench and they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Covington makes sense though on this Rocket team. I

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Speaker 5: There, that's gonna look like nothing by the time he's

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Speaker 5: done with the Rockets. Yeah, eight attempt in thirty six minutes.

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Speaker 2: keep their eye on Twitter, of course. But Tim McMahon

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 2: There's there's no move to be made here for like

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Speaker 3: They can't shoot. I don't think I don't think they

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Speaker 3: it's gonna it will help them. And I understand people

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Speaker 3: who's watched basketball for a long time, I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: see something entirely different. Although I think, yeah, they're not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to. And also, like what happens if PJ.

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Speaker 2: Tucker gets hurt. I mean, you're they're asking him to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, And I guess you could say, well

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Speaker 2: Capella's injured as well. He's got pentterfescionatis. I get that,

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Speaker 4: Big, well even just game to game with foul trouble.

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Speaker 4: If he's defending pigs too, I mean, he's you know,

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Speaker 4: this is this is fascinating with what the Rockets are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, turning Capella into Covington Really all right, let's get

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Speaker 2: the Hawks. They're the one that get Clint Cappella here.

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Speaker 2: What does everybody think about that? Their name has obviously

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Speaker 5: I think of all the centers that the Hawks have

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Speaker 5: He certainly seems to be comfortable trying to stretch out

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Speaker 5: a little bit. But uh, I would rather have Capella

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Speaker 5: post ups or anything like that. Cappella is more of

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Speaker 5: an impact defensively. Drumming one of the best rebounders of

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Speaker 5: So I think this is a win for the Hawks too.

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Speaker 5: This is the rare trade where every team I think,

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Speaker 5: good job.

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Speaker 3: This is how it happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Hawks can afford to take him on with

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Speaker 4: going forward that it's not really going to hinder them,

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Speaker 4: you know, next season. So if it works with Capella,

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Speaker 4: then they get a pretty good player out of this,

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Speaker 4: and if it doesn't, then it's not going to sabotage

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Speaker 4: John Collins, yeah, I think that he's more suited to

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Speaker 4: get out there shooting. He's more athletic, so having Compella

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Speaker 3: He's good at definitely as a partner for Tree Young.

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Speaker 3: I worry definitely about the overlap with Johnkins, John Collins,

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Speaker 3: they took. They gave up Brooklyn's first round pick in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they could always move if it doesn't work

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Speaker 2: I like it from the Hawks, and it didn't really

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Speaker 2: cost them that much. They've already waved Chandler Parsons what

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Speaker 2: What does everybody think of this? From the Wolves side

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Speaker 4: Well, I like Malik Beasley coming back to them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Either Beasley and Wancho or are both restricted free agency.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but I think with the situation there for Beesley

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Speaker 4: for them. For Karl Anthony Towns, I mean, Covington was

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Speaker 3: Fitted his friend Anthony town said he was the type

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Speaker 4: That you sort of think they need to surround more

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Speaker 4: I think the Wolves are still they simply have to

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Speaker 3: They got a first round pick and Malik Beasley basically

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Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit, it's a bit lateral. I guess, you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Timberwolves were so unhappy with their point guard

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Speaker 5: situation they just traded all of them.

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Speaker 3: Skeets.

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Speaker 5: You might want to move to Minnesota. I think you

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Speaker 5: setting the table for Karl Anthony Towns, nobody playing defense.

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Speaker 5: But that just means their pick is getting better and better.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's the biggest win for this trade.

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Speaker 5: For the Timberwolves is that they're gonna be even worse

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they didn't give up their pick, which is

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Speaker 2: And then the surprise team in this deal, I think

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the Nuggets see themselves right now in

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the Nuggets, Oh, with Michael Porter Junior, like

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Speaker 4: The shop and they've still got Gary Harris out there

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 5: They have a little bit more draft equity. That's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't take a step closer to the title.

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Speaker 3: that's the thing that we expected them to do, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like von Ley and Napier are like third

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I saw Zilla write today about the

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Speaker 2: you know, long term, by any means, rotation players for

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Speaker 2: you still got guys there, and they may not be done.

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Speaker 2: They do really feel like a team that could have

429
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 2: They have the guys, They have guys under the contracts

430
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,840
Speaker 2: that you can move for someone of a bit of

431
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,679
Speaker 2: a sexier, bigger name if if they want to make

432
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 2: that move.

433
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, they get Houston's pick in this which is

434
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 3: going to be in the twenties, which is another Basically

435
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,960
Speaker 3: they're going to draft another guy who is going to

436
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,840
Speaker 3: be eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve in their rotation, which

437
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,159
Speaker 3: they have a billion of because they have drafted really well.

438
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,600
Speaker 3: So it's time to cash in on those in probably

439
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 3: get a better player. But they're excited for Michael Porter

440
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,119
Speaker 3: Junior to potentially be that perimeter star in twenty one,

441
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three. But should they wait or should

442
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 3: they you know, cash in some of these end of

443
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 3: the bench type guys in hope that they can get

444
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 3: another star to try and try and you know, overtake

445
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,159
Speaker 3: Lebron and friends.

446
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Speaker 2: Now overall, not a bad trade from all fourteen. I mean,

447
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 2: you can understand what they're thinking. I don't love it

448
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 2: for the Wolves because it's like, on one hand, you're like,

449
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 2: why are we even moving Comington to begin with? But

450
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 2: if they if they're hell bent on doing that and

451
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 2: they've got bigger things in mind trying to get D'Angelo

452
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,160
Speaker 2: Russell and need a pick to do that, then yeah, okay,

453
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 2: that's the reasoning. But yeah, from all the other teams,

454
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 2: it's not bad. It's one of those like pretty decent,

455
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 2: like you're sort of scoring it, like nice doing business

456
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, like a b for every team. It

457
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,360
Speaker 2: almost feels like, so let's hear from you, guys. That's

458
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 2: at least my opinion on it. Always fun to get

459
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 2: a trade. Always nice to hear the Southern Lawyer. Hopefully

460
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: we hear them many more times throughout this podcast or

461
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 2: at least in the next twenty four hours or so.

462
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 2: Had some other big news on Tuesday, guys. The Knicks

463
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 2: fired team president Steve Mills, and the rumors I've started

464
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,919
Speaker 2: up once again that the Knicks have set their sights

465
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Speaker 2: on the Raptors. Massaiu Jerie General manager Scott Perry. By

466
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 2: the way, we'll oversee the basketball operations in the interim.

467
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 2: So the Knicks two days before the trade deadline fire

468
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 2: the head guy in charge. Not that he has had

469
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: any success over the past couple of decades with that franchise.

470
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: He's not even really losing, well, he's losing his title

471
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 2: with the X. But he might be just moved somewhere

472
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 2: else within the dole in organization. I don't know, something

473
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 2: like that's great.

474
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Speaker 4: Never really fired, you're just reassigned.

475
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Speaker 3: I guess.

476
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 2: I guess I'll start with this task as a Raptors fan.

477
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: With now an opening, an actual legit opening for team

478
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: president of the Knicks. Are you worried with again this

479
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: sort of swell of rumors that, oh, the Knicks are

480
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: going for Messiujieri and there is an opening now and

481
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 2: this could be in play. What's your take on all that.

482
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 3: I got a little bit more worried when I saw

483
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 3: the the report from Mark Stein that NBA Commissioner Adam

484
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 3: Silver was pushing Massaiougerie to the Knicks. Now the league

485
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: office totally declining that. And we've heard about these types

486
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 3: of rumors in the past, like, hey, Brian Colangelo, go

487
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: save the process Philadelphia seventy six ers apparently is what

488
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: the Commissioner's office did, So that made me worry a

489
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 3: little bit more. But I still don't think it's really

490
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: Massai Jeri's moo to go to a team that's flailing

491
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 3: in a major way and to go to a front runner,

492
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 3: to go to a huge, huge organization and try and

493
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 3: help them out. I think he's totally fine going, you know,

494
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: playing with the Raptors chips and continuing there. I think

495
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 3: he's more focused on growing the Africa League that's starting

496
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 3: right now. I just don't see him as a front runner.

497
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 3: I just don't see him like that. I just don't

498
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 3: see him. Why would he do that?

499
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Speaker 5: How's that front running to join the next they haven't

500
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 5: had a winning season in forty five thousand years ago.

501
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: Well, because it's the Knicks and everybody talks about them,

502
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: and it's the biggest market in North America.

503
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 5: I mean, that sounds like a great reason to take

504
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 5: the job. If you're asking me, Vegas market in North America,

505
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 5: bringing him back to glory after you've already done everything

506
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 5: you can with the Toronto Raptors, I'm with you. After

507
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 5: I saw the mark Stein report, I'm a little more

508
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 5: nervous for my Raptor friends. I don't know how often

509
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 5: can you just keep going back to the world. Does

510
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 5: he want to be arc Buford? Does he want to

511
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 5: really build the Spurs in Toronto and have a competitive,

512
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 5: championship quality team every single year? That would be awesome

513
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 5: if he does, or maybe he just wants to be

514
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 5: a guy who is the hero in every single city

515
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 5: he goes to and keeps growing and getting bigger and

516
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 5: better everywhere he goes.

517
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Speaker 2: Does he want to be a championship exactly?

518
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, But he also is focusing on the NBA Africa League,

519
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: where he talks about He's been in interviews basically inquired.

520
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: He's been asked about like, hey, how can we build

521
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: a huge, huge league in Africa and why can't we

522
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: why can't we get a soccer team like Arsenal in Africa?

523
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 3: And he goes, you know what, We're gonna build our

524
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 3: own Arsenal. He wants to build things from the ground up.

525
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 3: I just don't see him going to the next and

526
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Speaker 3: trying something like that. But hey, it's the probably the

527
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: third month that we haven't talked about it, so we've

528
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: got to talk about it again. It's a rumor that

529
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: just keeps coming back.

530
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Speaker 4: I thought there's no way in the world he'd want

531
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Speaker 4: to go to that chaok situation because no one comes

532
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 4: out of there looking good. No one comes out with

533
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 4: their reputation improved after working for the Knicks. But Michael

534
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 4: Grange from Sports Now our Canadian friend there, he's got

535
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: an articlup basically saying, you know that the Maple Leafe

536
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: Sports and Entertainment, which owns the Raptors, declined to offer

537
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 4: an extension to Messiah JII, who, even if he was

538
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: offered it apparently, according to this article, was going to

539
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 4: decline it anyway when his contract is up in twenty

540
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: twenty one because he may want to test free agency.

541
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: So there's certainly now some more legitimate people reporting that

542
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 4: perhaps Messiah is actually willing to consider this offer. So

543
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 4: that to me now gives it a little bit more

544
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: traction that there are actually some real people talking that

545
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 4: he might be intrigued by it, because it is the

546
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: ultimate sort of everestrial, isn't it. I mean, if you

547
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 4: are able to turn the Knicks from the absolute joke

548
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: that they've been now for so long into a successful

549
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 4: team and not necessarily winning the championship, but just a

550
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 4: credible team again with a good repute. Then that's I mean,

551
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: bessides her, He's going to be just the greatest president

552
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 4: whatever role he encompasses there in New York that the

553
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: league's ever seen, because it's a disaster right now, and

554
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: you've seen people like respected people like Phil Jackson walk

555
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: in there and then absolutely just humiliated as he left

556
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: because he couldn't do anything, you know, And Mark Stein

557
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: sort of says that in his article as well. We

558
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 4: talk more about Phil Jackson as the disaster in New

559
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: York than the eleven time NBA Coach Championship winning coach.

560
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 4: So I can see from a challenge perspective, Messi having won,

561
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 4: I mean, having won the championship with the Raptors is

562
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: an enormous successful successful goal of his or successful achievement

563
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 4: of his. If he can now go to the situation

564
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 4: where no one has been able to succeed and succeed,

565
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: then that would be incredible. But if the Raptors lose

566
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: as well, Bobby Webster as well, because there's also reports

567
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: that if Messi goes, he's going to he's going to

568
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 4: bring his guys with him.

569
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: That's what staying reporting that. Yes, I have been my

570
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: sources say there is absolutely no way that happens that

571
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: he would turn down Bobby Webster. If Massi were to leave,

572
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: that he would turn down the rays slash the promotion

573
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: that he would be in line for. That's that's that's

574
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: what skeet sources because I was that was the first

575
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: time I had seen something like that too. That report

576
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: the idea of like Massi just taking everybody, and that

577
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 2: is the other part, Like a guy like Messi who

578
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: everybody loves. I mean, there's the concern as a Raptors fan,

579
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: obviously him going to another organization, You're going, oh, well,

580
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: who's in charge now? The second part of that is, well,

581
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: guys like that that are that are so trusted and

582
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: have so much respect, will everybody that they have in

583
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: place sometimes follow them to the next place because they're like,

584
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: I want to work for that guy. That's what really

585
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: concerns me again, as a rap say, if we're missided,

586
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: not just Massill, it's everything else he's got in store there.

587
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: But you know, hopefully the organization of the Raptors that

588
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: they've built and he's built up has such a strong

589
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: backbone that it will still you know, still be fine.

590
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: Man.

591
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 4: The final sentence in this article from grind short answer

592
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: year he's gone.

593
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and look the other part is it

594
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: Massai couldn't up this in the butt if he wanted to. Yeah,

595
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: right he And now maybe he doesn't want to for

596
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: leverage reasons, contract reasons like why would he? I guess,

597
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: but he could say he could very easily come out

598
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: and say I am not going anywhere. In fact, I'm

599
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: in negotiations to sign my next contract. The raptors have

600
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: been over backwards, are gonna be anything I want, and

601
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: rightfully so. But he hasn't done that. So why hasn't

602
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: he done that? Is it again just a is it

603
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: a money play power play? Or is he does he

604
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: have his eyes set on somewhere else?

605
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: Only time will tell. It just definitely feels more tenuous

606
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: now than it did twenty four hours ago, for sure,

607
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 5: And at any time I would say that New York

608
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 5: has been pursuing Messiah. I think this seems more realistic

609
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 5: than it ever has.

610
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again mainly because of the first thing I said,

611
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: There is an opening that that is your job right there?

612
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: Now?

613
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: Does Dolan, because the classic Dolan does he like he

614
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: can't sit on his hands for more than two minutes here,

615
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: and he's got to play the blues, you know what

616
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 2: I mean? But he gave does he does he go, Well,

617
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: we're not waiting for Messiah, I know. Okay, Well, we're

618
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: not waiting for him to decide and for him to

619
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: drag us around here. So we're gonna go this. Uh

620
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: you know agent Rout because there's rumors of that, and

621
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, obviously they were on to the next plan

622
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. Yeah, and maybe that happens with a guy

623
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: like Door. He couldn't be shocked if that does.

624
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: He's linked to all the ones who have been successful.

625
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: We just want one of those ones, you know. We

626
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: want we want to Bob Myers, you know, we want

627
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: to rob the link and just find it's one of those.

628
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: You know.

629
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 4: But I just talk about he would he would give

630
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: up total or Tomny or Tomny? Is that right?

631
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: No?

632
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean to messages to try

633
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 4: to entice. But I'm pretty sure he gave that to Phil.

634
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 4: I'm sure that Phil was like, I get to do

635
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: everything I want and no one reports into me. Because

636
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: I remember even seeing Dolan on a radio station saying,

637
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: once you know Phil makes all the decisions, I don't,

638
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: I don't get involved.

639
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 5: There's conflicts of the Madison Square Garden radio station that

640
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 5: you were running as an employee, as the team.

641
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's conflicting reports about how involved a guy like

642
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: Dolan is in the data day basketball operations. Some people say, no,

643
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: he's actually pretty hands off and he hires these guys

644
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: and lets them make all the decisions and stays out

645
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: of the way. And then, of course the flip side

646
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: is no, at a certain point when the fans start

647
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: chanting sell the team, he because he you know, is crazy,

648
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: freaks out and does whatever he wants to do because

649
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: he's the man in charge, and fires the you know

650
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: team prisident or does whatever he can in his power

651
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: because he's like, oh, this is a bad look for me.

652
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. So I don't know what it is.

653
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: Maybe it's both. From day to day. It probably changes

654
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: with this guy.

655
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 5: But by all reports it was Phil Jackson had autonomy

656
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 5: and maybe that just comes because that's a guy that

657
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: Jim Dolan really respects, and clearly that is the case

658
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: with Messia Jerry. He has wanted Messia Jerry to be

659
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 5: his GM since he talked himself out of the Kyle

660
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: Lowry trade. And then that's where I think it really starts,

661
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: because Dolan's like, if you wouldn't let me trade for

662
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 5: Kyle Lowry, we would have won the championship. Duh, So

663
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 5: I gotta get Messia Jerry. He knew just like I knew.

664
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that if if Massi were to

665
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: were to join the next he would probably have full

666
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: autonomy at least until they lost three games in a row.

667
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. The other thing is people saying that the Knicks

668
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: would have to give the Raptors compensation, which again would

669
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: make no sense. If Massiah was to take over that

670
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: team and lose a couple of first round picks to

671
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 4: the Raptors, then you're starting from behind already.

672
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: They've got some Mavericks picks in the mix there too. Yeah,

673
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: there are picks that they could Yeah, I mean it

674
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: all depends on the timing, right, Yeah, it's whether Yeah,

675
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: that idea that you can trade for an executive, and

676
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: you got they got to be careful with all the

677
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: tampering of course and stuff. Here, maybe we've already crossed

678
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: that bridge I don't know what is tampering right right, right, right,

679
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: So we will see who right now. Scott Perry, Yes

680
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: that Scott Perry is still there, Scott Scott and Steve

681
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: Scott survives. Yes, Scott, you can leave Steve all right.

682
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: We got our All.

683
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Star Saturday Night participants. They were announced on Tuesday night.

684
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: Let's start with the dunk contests. We basically knew who

685
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: it was, but it's only four dunkers. I'm very sad

686
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: it's Pat Connaton, Aaron Gordon, Dwight Howard and Derek Jones Junior.

687
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: We don't got to start making our picks here by

688
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: any means. We might even save that for our live

689
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: show in Chicago the night of all the All Star

690
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: Saturday Night festivities, right before they happen. But yeah, only

691
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: getting the four. I kept saying for weeks that we

692
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: might get a bigger field. But maybe they just could

693
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: get these guys to commit. I mean, de Zion Williamson

694
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: injury probably came into play and John Morant declining it.

695
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: So maybe there was an offer to I don't know,

696
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: five or six guys and they just only got four okas,

697
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: But what do you think.

698
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: I wish I wouldn't have known who else was invited,

699
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 5: because when you see Conaton, Gordon, Howard Jones, that's four

700
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 5: good dunkers. You know, who knows what to expect from

701
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 5: Dwight Howard after ten years off, Derek Jones Junior should

702
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: be better this time around. Aaron Gordon is a legend

703
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 5: in the game. Unfortunately, he'll kind of always be compared

704
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 5: to twenty sixteen in Pat Connaton. You saw him last

705
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 5: night sky and for the one hander forty four inch

706
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 5: vert second highest at the combine. So maybe he'll be

707
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: a surprise. Well, but when you go into it hearing

708
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: oh man, Zack Lavine's been invited, John RAN's been invited,

709
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: and then you see Connaton, Gordon, Howard Jones, it's a

710
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 5: little bit of a letdown compared to those guys, but

711
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: it's good for all things considered.

712
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and maybe Zach Lavine still shocks

713
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: us all and says, hey, he's keeping it on the

714
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: dunking baby. Yeah, I just won the three point condess.

715
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm dunking next.

716
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm excited for Dwight, I really am. I just want

717
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: to see what he's got left in his tank, because

718
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: he's an entertaining dunk contest guy.

719
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have the lowest expectations imaginable for Dwight House.

720
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: That's great, I really do, and that's probably the best way, yeah,

721
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: to approach it. Yeah, I just I don't know. I

722
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: just don't see because he's done. He's done the cool

723
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: big man dunk, so maybe he's got more. But like,

724
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: he's done the twelve foot you know dunk, twelve foot

725
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: rim dunk, he's done the sticker dunk. He's done the

726
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: crazy one where he jumped up and tapped it off

727
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: the glass and we didn't even sort of appreciate it

728
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: for how cool that dunk was at the time. I mean, like,

729
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: what's left in his big man dunk bag? Well, yeah,

730
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: that's the thing.

731
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: He pulled out some dunks we've never seen before. So

732
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: I'm guessing he's got a few more tricks up his

733
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: sleeve that he wants to show.

734
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Because those hops, like he quite did, they're.

735
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: Not too bad.

736
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing I want to I wanted

737
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: to get on the twelve footer again and say if

738
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: you can just throw that down, because just to see.

739
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 5: Old old dunks, I mean, I guess it would be impressive.

740
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: They're like, this guy is old now.

741
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, ten years later, all those injuries he's had and

742
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: he can still done good.

743
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the stickers are going to say thirty three or

744
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: however old he is. Yeah, they say the last thing

745
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: to go for a player is his hops. So yeah,

746
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: he's going to bring it. They don't say that. Yeah,

747
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: like Trey said ten years ago. My god. But they're

748
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: going to be showman dunks is what they're going to be.

749
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: They're going to have some sort of flare, some sort

750
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: of plan, you know, with his teammates or out there

751
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: or something like that. It's going to be more about

752
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: the performance than it is going to be about the dunk.

753
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: Chances are hig Dwight Howard it's going to embarrass himself here,

754
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: come on. They're very very high in terms of the

755
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: theatrical prop type thing. Does Superman make a return. He's

756
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: got to bring back Superman, like, it's got to be happening.

757
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if it doesn't. The one thing about

758
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Pat Continton, I just want to throw this in there,

759
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: because you were joking, Well you actually weren't joking, because

760
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: you hear it all the time. Forty four inch vertical

761
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 2: I heard Nate Duncan talking to Danny LaRue last night.

762
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: Apparently that's incorrect, because what happened at the Combine was

763
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: they screwed up Pat Connington's standing reach, like they measured

764
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: it incorrectly, which is what they do. They measure your

765
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: standing reach and then of course the jumping to then

766
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: see how how you get and do the math and

767
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: there's your vertical. I guess they screwed it up. He's

768
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: got a forty inch vertical. We still pretty amazing, but

769
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: uh yeah, it's like just passed around and he's got

770
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: the forty four inch vertical. But I guess he does

771
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: it because they just messed it up. I don't know

772
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: why that's so funny to me? Who knows what to

773
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: expect from him. Either he's gonna do the classic white

774
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: Man dunk. I did it in our dunk contest and

775
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: throw it around his back, sort of do a cool reverse.

776
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: It'll look fine.

777
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: It's a tough Rex.

778
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: Chapman has done it, and Barry's done it, and there's

779
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: been others. Yeah, he'll be fine, he'll be fine. But really,

780
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: it's to me, can Aaron Gordon replicate what he did

781
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: againstzacch Lavine in his contest, or at least the first

782
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: one in sixteen. And then can Dereck Jones Junior, being

783
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: a little more experienced than this, bring it so we

784
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: get an awesome head to head between those two guys.

785
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: You just need to just need to. We always think.

786
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon on T and T last night. Oh yeah, relaxed,

787
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: he was. He must have been jet lagged.

788
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: Oh that is if you haven't seen the club yet. Yeah,

789
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: go look that up. Aaron Gordon appearing on TN T

790
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: last night with Shack Sagg. How high can you get?

791
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: Can you get that high? That's very very high? And

792
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: yeah they really leaned into it. That's very funny. All right.

793
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Taco Bell Skills Challenge, we got the Smalls and the

794
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Biggs again. The Smalls are Patrick Beverley, who has won

795
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: this contest before, Jason Tatum, who I guess is now

796
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: as small. I think he won it last year as

797
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: a big spencer, Dinwiddie and Derek Grows in Chicago. Canna

798
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: get quite the pop there from the crowd, I imagine.

799
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: The bigs are Sabonis at a Bio, Chris Mill and

800
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam Skills Challenge still happening, and it's there. It's fine,

801
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: it's over fairly quick, and sometimes there's an exciting moment

802
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: or two. But I guess we're I mean, I don't

803
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: know for sure, but I assume we're just going with

804
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: the smalls on one side of the bracket bigs on

805
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: the other.

806
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: Is that the plan?

807
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Again, I guess.

808
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: So, I don't know.

809
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the Wikipedia page and it appears to

810
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 5: me that Mike Conley faced Jason Tatum in the first

811
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 5: round last year, right, So I guess that makes them Smalls'.

812
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: So Tatum is still a small because Doncich went against Kuzma.

813
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 5: I think those are the other bigs compared to Yokich

814
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 5: and Lusevich. So I guess Tatum I thought he was

815
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: a big too. Yeah, but congratulations to him on being

816
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: reclassified as a small. They're continuing to be a small.

817
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 5: But look at all of these former winners.

818
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: We've got.

819
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: All the smalls has skills titles challenges in their belt.

820
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 5: So you know, this is very exciting for US Skills

821
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 5: Challenge heads out there to see this kind of championship

822
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: equity in the contest, the biggest one that.

823
00:35:59,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: We've ever seen.

824
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Jayson Titum is listed at six eight and

825
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: he's a small Chris Middleton is sixty seven and he's

826
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: a big.

827
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't even overthink it. I'd like to see

828
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: Westbrook involved in this somehow, like just staring at Beverly

829
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: while he's doing the course or something like that. Give

830
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: us a little more attention. Maybe it's in play. But

831
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: the crowd is gonna go crowd's gonna go crazy for

832
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: Derek Rose. That is gonna be the funny part. I mean,

833
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: I hope he can hit the pass. I hope he

834
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: doesn't botch the pass a couple of times. The crowd

835
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: will really but they're gonna be going nuts. All right, Well,

836
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: let's get to this. You know, I'm gonna get pumped

837
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: about this. We got the three point contest. That's the

838
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: final one. I saved it for last for a reason.

839
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Our contestants, participants looks nice, Davas Berton's Davante Graham, Joe Harris,

840
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: the defending champ, Buddy Healed, Zach Levine going in the

841
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: three point contest, now dunk contest, Damian Lillard got some

842
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: star power, Trey Young as well, and then Duncan Robinson.

843
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 6: Solid eight guys.

844
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: Very nice. Here's the problem. The NBA has changed the

845
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: format to this year's three point contests. They're adding a

846
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: pair of deep shots that will be worth three points apiece.

847
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: The ap'ce ten Reynolds was the first to report this

848
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: travesty and then they talked about it on TNT last night.

849
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: So the change means each round will now be a

850
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: total of twenty seven shots instead of twenty five. The

851
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: competitors will now get seventy seconds to finish all of

852
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: their shots instead of the sixty. The two additional shots, well,

853
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: they're they're deep bombs, man. They're six feet beyond the

854
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: three point line. They're between the racks, located on the wings.

855
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: They're in the mountain dew zone. The ball will be green.

856
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: And again, if you hit those, those are three points.

857
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: Why the fuck are we doing this?

858
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: Why?

859
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: This is the definition of if it ain't broke, don't

860
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: fix it, and here they are doing this. I don't

861
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: get this. I mean, I went off on Twitter last night.

862
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: If you want to go read my tweets and see,

863
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: and I've cooled down a little bit, but.

864
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: This is not much, but it sounds of it.

865
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: Well, this is insane. To me, Yeah, it really don't

866
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: get it.

867
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: I agree, I don't think it's needed. I think with

868
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: any of these competitions you're having, the worst thing you

869
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 4: can do is to extend them. I think people want

870
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: these over as quickly as possible. So to add ten seconds,

871
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: to add gimme key gimme key shots, I think.

872
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: Just makes it.

873
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: No, I mean I think it makes it. It just

874
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: drags it out even longer, and you don't need to.

875
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 4: But again, the format of the ten seconds, I'm just saying,

876
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, no, you're just extending it.

877
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: No, this is where you're actually wrong. This is where

878
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: you're actually wrong. This is why the three point contest

879
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: was perfect. Okay, there was nothing wrong with them. In fact,

880
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong. You guys have been going

881
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: to a lot of All Star weekends. You've obviously watched

882
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: a ton of them. Has there ever been an All

883
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: Star Saturday Night where people left that building and went, oh, damn,

884
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: you know what really sucked? Three point contest was brutal man.

885
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: I really brought the night down. No, it never happened.

886
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: If anything, people would go, well, you know what was

887
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: actually one of the better events All Star saturnity. There

888
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: was a three point contest that was better than dunk contest.

889
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: It was a little more exciting.

890
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: Whatever it was.

891
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Always it always delivered because it's always it's just the

892
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: best shooters in the world with the sixty seconds, which

893
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: was honestly, it was like us shooting for fifty wedgies.

894
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: It was just a perfect amount of time. You know,

895
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: you sort of had to rush, but you still obviously

896
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: could get it off. There was nothing wrong with it.

897
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: It always delivered.

898
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: It delivered. I wouldn't say you walk out of the

899
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: building and say, gosh, the three point contest is just

900
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: chilling me through my bones, right.

901
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: I didn't definitely didn't say that.

902
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: You said you're excited about it leaving the building.

903
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: There have been nights, there have been definitely nights where

904
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: we've been like the best part was also was the

905
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: three point contest, because the dunk contest suck.

906
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, more so more so because because it's

907
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: like it's even keeled. It just it never gets too

908
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: high and never gets too low. It's never amazing, it's

909
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: never bad. It's never bad.

910
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: It's like the No Dunk's podcast daily podcast. That's bad bad,

911
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: it's amazing.

912
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it never hits it out of the park.

913
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's always there for you. It's always perfect. There's

914
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with average, is my point.

915
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: It's good. Listen, it is good. It is good to

916
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: at least have something that will never disappoint because sometimes

917
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: the dunk contest does. That's fair. I think I would

918
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: rather than take away the rack with five money balls

919
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: on it. I think they added that a couple of

920
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: years ago. Don't see why they added that. That just

921
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: changed the point value, just makes bakes numbers big. I'd

922
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: rather them change that than take away two shots. These

923
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: are Listen, there's two shots that they're adding where guys

924
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: are shooting from now from from these spots. So like,

925
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: who cares? I don't, I don't care. I mean, it's

926
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: like everybody is doing it. That's exactly what My mother

927
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: in law went to the Hawks game the other day.

928
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: Somebody shot from the logo Trey Young did he shot

929
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: from the Hawk's logo. She texted me and said, Trey

930
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: Young is shooting from Alpharetta, which is an Atlanta suburb.

931
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: It's a real Matt Devlin Chuck swirsky line hilarious, Like

932
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: every broadcast says, he's shooting from the suburbs. So that's

933
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: what casual fans are seeing. Why can't you shoot one ball, skeets.

934
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: It's one ball, it's ten seconds, yeah, one ball from

935
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: each yeh from yeah.

936
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: So why not just put a rack there if you

937
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: really want to.

938
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: I hear too many again, There was no task.

939
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: There was nothing wrong with the contest. There wasn't no

940
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: so we didn't even need to try this and lead

941
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: to go back to that point where you're like, you're

942
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: worried about the extra ten seconds. This contest was so

943
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: good that back in the day we used to split

944
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: screen these guys and they would shoot at the same time. Yeah,

945
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: and okay, it was fine. You know, you're trying to

946
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: keep track of both sides of the screen. But they

947
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: were like, you know what this contest is, so there's

948
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. People enjoy like to see a

949
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: guy try and catch on fire from the three point lane.

950
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: That they got rid of that. They actually made this

951
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: event longer in terms of a television sort of production,

952
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: so that's the flip side of it. It was like,

953
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: this is great, let's just see each guy go and

954
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: that has worked out as well. Now task is right.

955
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: You know, why did they have to add that's the

956
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: money the all moneyball rack. I'm with you. I hated

957
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: it at the time because I love the history of

958
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: like we can always compare, you know, back to like

959
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: eighty six when this thing came into play, we can

960
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: always compare. So that sort of screwed up the scoring,

961
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: but at least it was still twenty five shots. And

962
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: task these balls, these little mountain dew zones. The thing

963
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: I hate about it. Here's the biggest reason why I

964
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: hate a it. These guys. The best thing I would

965
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: have done a three point contest, excuse me, is when

966
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: a guy came which is on fire. Okay, he's hit,

967
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: he's hit four or five, six in a row. There's

968
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: a rhythm to it, the crowd starts building. You've been

969
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: in the arena, you know that's true. And now, unless

970
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm mistaken, and these guys are gonna shoot these stupid

971
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: mountain dew green balls at the end of their five racks, like,

972
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: unless they're gonna do their five racks and then run

973
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: up to the top to take these three point shots,

974
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: these deep three point shots, well now you're gonna like

975
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna mess sort of with the rhythm of it all,

976
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: because now you gotta end that second rack and go

977
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: back to this weird green ball and shoot that from

978
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: deep and it's just gonna be a different shot. Okay. Yeah,

979
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: maybe a guy hits it and continues and you're right,

980
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: But I don't think so. I don't think. I'm telling

981
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: you right.

982
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: Now, got the rhythm and he's got the distance.

983
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen.

984
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: I don't.

985
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: I don't so. I I just really, I'm just so

986
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: confused why you had to mess with with something that worked.

987
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: That's the biggest problem.

988
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 6: With it because of money. Is to sell a poison

989
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 6: fizzy drink.

990
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: That's it.

991
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 6: No, that's sales initiative doing this. I'm bleeping all of

992
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 6: mentions of that good. I knew Lee would be on

993
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 6: my SAT the commercial.

994
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: The commercial where the guy is calling the beads running

995
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: down the bottle commercial.

996
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 6: Okay, sure, but that's all it is. I think is

997
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 6: just marketing. Is just the sales team was like, hey,

998
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 6: we just sold We're making an extra five million bucks

999
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: on the three point competition. We have to wedge this

1000
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 6: in somehow. It's has nothing to do with making it better.

1001
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 6: Or making it more excited. I agree with you, Skates,

1002
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 6: it's nothing wrong with the three point competition. They're just

1003
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 6: it's just a cash grab.

1004
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and ideally the winner would get some cut of

1005
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: that because every winner obviously, you know, makes whatever figure

1006
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: it is they win. Is it a six digit figure,

1007
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: is it is it a fifty k? They're all they're

1008
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: all very pumped to win the contest. They're all very

1009
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: pumped to win that extra money. And Mountain Dew is

1010
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: definitely sorry JD, I mentioned it again.

1011
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 6: It's fine, it's fine.

1012
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: They're obviously paying to get those two spots on the floor.

1013
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if one's a green spot one's a red,

1014
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: But sorry JD. They have two different products, multiple products.

1015
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, the winner should also get a cut of

1016
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: that as well. Listen, they'll get rid of it next

1017
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: your skeets, right, Yeah, yeah.

1018
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: This will be the dunk wheel version of the three

1019
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: point contest. I hope it will. I'm I'm convinced this

1020
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: will not make the contest any better. Yeah, And people

1021
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: on Twitter are disagreeing with me. They're like they love

1022
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: the idea of obviously the deep shots that these guys take.

1023
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Like you said, task in games that Lillard and Tray

1024
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: they can pull up from there. I just don't think

1025
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: within the context of the way that's already set up.

1026
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: I just think it's gonna screw with the rhythm of

1027
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: these guys, which to me is the most exciting part.

1028
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: When a guy like Lee Ellis can even hit a

1029
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: couple in a row, and that's the fun part. And

1030
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: I just now, now you've got to go back to

1031
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: this longer range, and that will likely be a miss

1032
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: because it's a much more difficult shot, And then it

1033
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: sort of spoils the moment for me.

1034
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: It could have just moved one of the racks back

1035
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: there if they wanted to do it, that's what you want.

1036
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 2: I guess if you really gotta rock and jock this shit,

1037
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: there's no reason to do it like this is the

1038
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: thing with the All Star Game. Go nuts, get crazy,

1039
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: whatever you want to try, because no one likes it.

1040
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: It already stinks, so get creative. No one was saying

1041
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: that about the three point contest. We weren't saying it

1042
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: was garbage, or it was boring, or it wasn't delivery.

1043
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: No one was saying that that's that's my issue with this.

1044
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 3: But here we are people going to leave the building

1045
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: and say, God, that stupid spot back there behind the

1046
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: arc that killed it. Like if if it didn't have

1047
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: a big Mountain de logo and it was just an

1048
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: extra shot or or an extra rack because guys shoot

1049
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: from there? Now, will that kill it? Like if it

1050
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: was less of a gimmick, if it was less about

1051
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 3: money and it was more just about where guys shoot.

1052
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think people would be like upset.

1053
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I don't think anyone's gonna leave

1054
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: the building and say, God, it's find a Mountain Dew

1055
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: bottle and crush it and throw it in the garbage.

1056
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1057
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's it. I mean yeah, recycle, Yeah, yeah,

1058
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: like what, Yeah, you should put more time on the

1059
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: clock and chug them out and do before you take

1060
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: the shot, and then if you chug it fast enough,

1061
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: you get an extra two points. But then, yeah, if

1062
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: you don't recycle, you lose a point. Like what are

1063
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: we doing? There's not.

1064
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: Just believe it, man, This does feel like a change

1065
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: just for the sake of making a change.

1066
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: I actually hope that Mountain Dew all this up. I

1067
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: hope it's on them and not someone else in the

1068
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: NBA office going wow, we got to make the three

1069
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: point contest better.

1070
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: No, you don't.

1071
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: I hope that this is just a cash grab. All

1072
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: the money Maury losses in China. They're like, we gotta

1073
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: get it back in Mountain Dew dollars. I mean, I like,

1074
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: I actually respect that more sell out at least I

1075
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: hope that is the reason.

1076
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 5: But I should have got a better sponsor. I think

1077
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 5: that's it, Mountain Dew. It's all about being extreme the

1078
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: three point contest. It's not extreme. Dunks are extreme, half

1079
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 5: court shots are extreme. We could have had a full

1080
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: on half court shot contest with a green ball. This

1081
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: solves everything. We're not messing with a three point contest.

1082
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 5: People love half quarters. That's what's missing with shooting stars

1083
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: being gone. Just back it up, chug Ado, knock down

1084
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 5: a forty five footter, and whoever makes the most of

1085
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: them wins a lifetime supply of Code Red.

1086
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little disappointing that they're going to

1087
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: go back to that spot. It is going to be

1088
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: a green ball, so it's going to be different, and

1089
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: it's going to be a pedestal. Yeah, it's not a

1090
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: rack release. It makes it a little.

1091
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: It's also it's not gonna be that ridiculous of shot.

1092
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: I think people are maybe in their heads thinking it's

1093
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: like around half court. It isn't. It's not. It's like

1094
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: not even like a logo type of shot that we call,

1095
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: you know, logo liter or stuff.

1096
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: Like that, like we're the big three shoot there. Oh yeah,

1097
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: right right, four point shot or whatever they have.

1098
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: Well, see, I hope I'm proven wrong. I don't think

1099
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna help the three point contest. And again, I

1100
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: just don't get why you had to mess with it

1101
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: at all unless it was just a straight up Mount

1102
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: Dew cash grab. And if that's case, Mountain Dew, talk

1103
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: to us, man, I'll hit you with the I'll hit

1104
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: you with the three point hot take coming up in

1105
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: five minutes. I'm gonna blow your mind, guys, all right,

1106
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: popping off like a fresh bottle of Mountain Dew.

1107
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: No good. You wouldn't wear the do the do belt buckley.

1108
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: We don't want that dirty money I do.

1109
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna you're gone out from the podcast.

1110
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: You have to bleed me one hundred times, all right,

1111
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: So we're gonna be stepping on the beach a little

1112
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: later today. As I said, but let's get in the mood. Guys.

1113
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: Got a few questions for you already here. Hey, guys,

1114
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: do you have any predictions on who wins All Star

1115
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: Game m v P this year? Based on the format?

1116
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: I would put Trey Young as the runaway winner. P S.

1117
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: I'm once again disappointed in what you omitted in the

1118
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: last pun gun. Norman bowel, Baby, that's good. We were talking, well,

1119
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: what was it called, NBA diarrhea?

1120
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 6: Would we Tommy Trump trumbles?

1121
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: All right, Norman, that's good.

1122
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 6: That's a really good one.

1123
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, I go to do it when we

1124
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: have forever to think about it.

1125
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly right.

1126
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1127
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw all this chatter going around on Twitter

1128
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: about the pun gun, and I was unsure of the category.

1129
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: I saw that Trey and Skeets were trapped in the

1130
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: the loop of diarrhea, but I was I was uncertain

1131
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: where it came from. Where did it start? Yeah? But

1132
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: it was it was it was all those super Bowl snacks,

1133
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: all the Super Bowl snacks, right, I can't pump for that.

1134
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: So that was from Frank in North York, Toronto. Great

1135
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: pun gun suggestion, but again, a lot easier when you've

1136
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: got some time to think about it. We're right on

1137
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: the spot. But I love it, Norman Bell, that's good.

1138
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: I was partaking, by the way I grabbed a virus

1139
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: from the hospital. I was in definitely partaking in the

1140
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: the challenge.

1141
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, what do you think about All

1142
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: Star Game MVP. He's got Trey Young as the runaway winner.

1143
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: That caught me by surprise a little bit. I don't

1144
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: definitely think of Trey Young as a runaway winner as

1145
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: an All Star Game MVP favorite.

1146
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's far fetched to see Trey

1147
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 5: Young winning an All Star MVP if he's able to

1148
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 5: hit a few logo bombs from that due zone get

1149
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: the crowd pumped up. I think he's definitely in the mix.

1150
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 5: If you're starting the game, you're in the mix. For me,

1151
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 5: the guy is gonna be Anthony Davis, only because he

1152
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 5: won All Star MVP when it was in New Orleans.

1153
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 5: I'm thinking maybe he'll want to do the same sort

1154
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 5: of thing playing in his hometown of Chicago. They come

1155
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 5: out and try and get him fifty points and twenty

1156
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 5: boards or whatever you had the first time around.

1157
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: Yet fifty two intennis.

1158
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so give me an Anthony Davis.

1159
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 4: I'd pick Russell Westbrook every year he's in it because

1160
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: he just doesn't know how to not play intently intensely.

1161
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: I know I can't. I can't get my words out.

1162
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: I pissed.

1163
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 4: Pronounce it?

1164
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: Whoa, I pissed. Pronounce it.

1165
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 3: Good? It's funnier, I kind of, I know it's it anyway.

1166
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, I just picked Wasser Westbrook.

1167
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Okay, interesting about interesting about picking Westbrook again, though, Lee,

1168
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: I mean I hear your reasoning, sort of. You sort

1169
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: of got it out there. The last five All Star

1170
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: Game MVPs, though Durant last year thirty one points, ten

1171
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: to fifteen shooting Lebron twenty nine, ten and eight, a

1172
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: d the fifty two and ten, and then Westbrook won

1173
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: the two before that. One of them he started, one

1174
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: he did not. The point of that is in two

1175
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: and fifteen he came off the bench and scored a ton.

1176
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: But it is rare for an All Star Game MVP

1177
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: to calm off the bench. But Westbrook's already done it,

1178
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: so I guess it's in play that he could do

1179
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 2: it again.

1180
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not used to public squeaking, I piss pronounced.

1181
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: It had a lot of my words. That's the two

1182
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: Runnings classic stuff.

1183
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: That I love. What you looked at it?

1184
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 6: Hit up breadbox tonight to ask you, do.

1185
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: You have a sort of a favorite in mine right now?

1186
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: Or Trey Young?

1187
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: If you agree with that, I take you on a

1188
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 3: stead kompo. I think it's his time. I think you're

1189
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: right to win one because he hasn't won it yet.

1190
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: It's the same line of thinking as he had last year,

1191
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: but now he's an MVP. Time for him to go

1192
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 3: get one.

1193
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: And to add to that, I'm also teamy honest here.

1194
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: His team hasn't won yet against Team Lebron, so you

1195
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: know he doesn't want to lose three in a row

1196
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: to LBJ. Now he's gotta get a victory and he's

1197
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: locked in. And oh maybe because he can't do like

1198
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: his wrestling maneuvers before the start of an All Star game,

1199
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 2: like he can win the regular season, win his bucks.

1200
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he's got to teach it to them.

1201
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 5: He's got a draft Damian Lillard. That's a musk.

1202
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: That guy loves wrestling.

1203
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: Hell be a perfect bear. Yeah, he should just draft

1204
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: all the wrestling fans are right and then do a

1205
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: little royal rumble and then come out and win MVP.

1206
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: One more here, one more?

1207
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: Why not?

1208
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: Hey? No dunkin Donuts. As a Canadian, I can't help

1209
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: but proclaim my affinity and loyalty to Tim Horton's. I've

1210
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: enjoyed Timmy's all my life, from the tim Bits to

1211
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: the iced caps to the French Manillas. I truly love

1212
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: this stuff, and I'm sure every Canadian are with me

1213
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: on this. However, I also spent a fair amount of

1214
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: my life traveling to the US on vacations, and sadly,

1215
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: Timmy's in the US just isn't the same as it

1216
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: is back home. Additionally, the main alternative for many Americans

1217
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: is dunkin Donuts, which I've had a few times myself,

1218
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: and I still believe that it's just isn't on par

1219
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: with Tim Horton's. I'm curious to know what is your

1220
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: take on this and how the adjustment period has been

1221
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: in trying to find an alternative down in Atlanta. Also,

1222
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: congratulations to Task and his wife on the new addition

1223
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: to their family. This is from Enrique in Toronto but born.

1224
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: In Mississauga, Saga shout out, yes that's right.

1225
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 6: Hey shot it from Saga.

1226
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: Would do we have to bleep this out too, JD.

1227
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 3: All this talk about French vanilla disgusting, all that sugar,

1228
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: ice caps, all.

1229
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 6: That, Hey pretty gross. So I had I've had an

1230
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 6: ice cap once from Tim Hortons and they're gross.

1231
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: Say you can tone it down with your milk selection

1232
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: and town down the sugar a little bit. Some people

1233
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: put chocolate milk in it. Crazy what wow, wacky?

1234
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: But you don't like tim Hortons, right, tasslic as a Canadian.

1235
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: You're not. I don't like the coffee beans. Yeah yeah,

1236
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: see that's why I wanted not my taste, not my

1237
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: The coffee is not all the good. Let's be honest.

1238
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: A tim bit, Sure, give me a sour cream glazed.

1239
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1240
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 6: We discovered that some Tim Hortons don't even carry the

1241
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 6: sour cream donut or tim bit like the cafe version,

1242
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 6: the one that was by our airbnb in Toronto.

1243
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah what yeah, No, Tim Hortons has gone down a

1244
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 2: little bit in quality control.

1245
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 6: There's there's a burger king by Tim Horton.

1246
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 2: You used to be able to go to tim Wartons

1247
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: and you it didn't matter the line that was there,

1248
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: you'd be in and out in minute. Yet under I

1249
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: went up before I was coming over. When we were

1250
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: stuck up in Toronto doing the show talking to these

1251
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: guys down here, I would sometimes be in in a

1252
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Tim Hortons for fifteen minutes getting a coffee.

1253
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it was that poor on getting a bad coffee.

1254
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: I have to say, well, yeah, I mean I I

1255
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: it's fine totally.

1256
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 4: When my very first moved to Toronto, you know, everyone's

1257
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 4: telling me about Tim Horton, and I went in there

1258
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 4: and I started getting the double doubles, I was like, yep, great,

1259
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: throwing me a blueberry muffin too perfect. I have to say.

1260
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: I have to say, with time and maybe growth and maturity,

1261
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 4: coffee just not that special. I'm sorry all my Canadian

1262
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 4: friends and family and people I love there, but.

1263
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: It's not that good.

1264
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 5: There's a reason the double double is the most popular.

1265
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 5: You're getting a lot of milk and a lot of sugar.

1266
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 5: You're overwhelming the coffee. It is equivalent to Dunkin Donuts.

1267
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: They are the same, Yeah, exactly. They're the biggest chain

1268
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: and that makes sense, right.

1269
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: A lot of people think McDonald's has better coffee than

1270
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: both of those. They've ever had all three like close

1271
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: enough together to know how they compare.

1272
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: Donalds even has a dark Rose.

1273
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 6: Harts.

1274
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: No, they do. Yeah, they're trying to compete. I do

1275
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: like how they pour it you or your coffee. They

1276
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 3: pour it from that old style diner Caraffe. Yeah, into

1277
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: it tastes like.

1278
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 2: Carap Sorry, Enrique, you know, not the biggest Timmy Hoes

1279
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: fans here in the world, but I look when I

1280
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Speaker 2: go home.

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Speaker 3: I grab one.

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Speaker 5: Every time we've been in Toronto since we since we moved,

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Speaker 5: I've gone to Tim Horton's and got a double double

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Speaker 5: in a maple dep.

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Speaker 3: This like that choice.

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Speaker 2: The smell of Tim Hortons is better than the actual

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Speaker 2: taste of Tim Hortons.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. All right, let's get

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Speaker 2: to tweet the night.

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Speaker 3: Tweet over night. Wow Twitter, Yes, I.

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Speaker 4: Was on tweeter the night duties last night and has

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Speaker 4: always have got one this morning, now, ski Se you

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Speaker 4: kind of referenced actually early you sort of mentioned it

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Speaker 4: that Chandler Parsons has been waived by the Atlandhawks, and

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Speaker 4: WOS tweeted that out, saying he's been waves and he's

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Speaker 4: expiring twenty five point one million contract to create roster

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Speaker 4: space to complete the fourteen trade. So that really turns

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Speaker 4: the page and ends the four year contract that Chandler

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Speaker 4: Parson signed back in twenty sixteen, ninety four million dollars

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Speaker 4: he signed for in Memphis. Can you guess how many

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Speaker 4: games he played for that four years and ninety four

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Speaker 4: million dollars?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, that's tough.

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Speaker 3: Four years. Well three of the zip this year? Did

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Speaker 3: he get on the floor?

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Speaker 2: He has played.

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Speaker 4: He has played games.

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Speaker 3: This year, handful last year with the Grizzlies. Put me

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Speaker 3: down for.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, forty eight.

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Speaker 3: That's a good guess.

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Speaker 4: For you.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, No, no, I can't, can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Give me seventy seven, Give me sixty two.

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Speaker 4: No, he played officially in a total of one hundred games.

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Speaker 4: One hundred games.

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Speaker 3: He played for.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he played thirty four in his first season, thirty

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Speaker 4: six in his second, twenty five last season, and five

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Speaker 4: this season.

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Speaker 3: So a million per game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just yeah, I mean, yeah, pretty sad. He's obviously

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Speaker 4: away from the game right now dealing with some injuries

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Speaker 4: he sustained in a car accident. But his NBA career

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Speaker 4: maybe over a tough way, of course for it to

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Speaker 4: win there. But yeah, those injuries, those Knay's just never

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Speaker 4: were able to hold up for him.

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Speaker 3: Are that?

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Speaker 4: So definitely looks like we've seen the last of chan

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Speaker 4: La Passa's playing in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quite possibly. All right, let's get to pick them

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Speaker 2: results from Tuesday night in the Association. Task ties it

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Speaker 2: all up. We once again had a big line involving

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Speaker 2: the Spurs. This time it was the Lakers. They were

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Speaker 2: favored huge and they covered no problem. Lebron James catching fire.

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Speaker 2: I know we didn't get a chance to talk about

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Speaker 2: some of the games last night because we were talking

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Speaker 2: about the trade and we're talking about the Knicks, and

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Speaker 2: then I got upset about the three point contest. But

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Speaker 2: it was nice to have Giannis versus ion and then

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Speaker 2: we had this Lebron turning into Steph Curry for a

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Speaker 2: second there hitting all those three. So anyway, Task gets

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Speaker 2: the win. Everybody else takes the loss because we all

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Speaker 2: had the Spurs to cover, So everybody's one and one

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Speaker 2: early in the month of February. Also, we know Task

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Speaker 2: has to pay off January's Pick Them lost. We got

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Speaker 2: something in mind maybe for the live show in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: We won't tell Tasty about it, but this could be

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Speaker 2: pretty fun. So we might be sitting on that one

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Speaker 2: a little bit, but don't worry. We'll get it up

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Speaker 2: on of course social media once we do it and

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Speaker 2: all that. But anyway, what's tonight's game? We're all tied

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Speaker 2: at one game apiece.

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Speaker 3: The Clippers who play the Spurs in our opening game

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Speaker 3: for the pick and payoff on Monday Night. They're hosting

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Speaker 3: the Miami Heat. Heat come to town. Heat obviously a

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Speaker 3: very good team this season. They're thirty four and fifteen,

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Speaker 3: the Clippers thirty five and fifteen, their best fifty games

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Speaker 3: starting franchise history. And the line seven and a half

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Speaker 3: for the Clippers at home.

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Speaker 2: Wow seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: And baby on ESPN, O what you get.

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Speaker 5: Clippers are rounding in the form. They've been playing some

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Speaker 5: of their best ball lately. So I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 5: the Clips.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna take the Heat. Is I think

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Speaker 4: I think seven and a half? Is that what you said?

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Speaker 3: Seven and a half?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so eight points. I'll take the Heat to cover.

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Speaker 2: That, so will I because I think this is gonna

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Speaker 2: be one of these very very like one point close ones,

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Speaker 2: and my gut says it's gonna be like a six

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Speaker 2: point Clippers win, so which is why I would go

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Speaker 2: with the heat. I'm with the heat as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give me the national TV game for the Clippers.

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Speaker 3: I think they can hold them off by eight or more.

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Speaker 2: All right, two of us got the clips, two of

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Speaker 2: us got the Heat. That's it for this day edition. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: always always, but the average for us seed the bar

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Speaker 2: is so high for us that it's a great average

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Speaker 2: to have.

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Speaker 5: Always classic exactly you're right, right, Yeah, yeah, I guess

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01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 5: it's hard to figure the true quality of each individual show,

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Speaker 5: and they're all classic. But like you're saying, we're always

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Speaker 5: here for you.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, And we're gonna be here for you later

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Speaker 2: today too, because we're gonna be stepping on the beach.

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Speaker 2: So get your questions in no dunks at the Athletic

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Speaker 2: dot Com and you'll hear from us soon, and who knows,

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Speaker 2: we'll probably have a trade or two by the time

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Speaker 2: you've downloaded and listened to this.

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Speaker 6: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 6: Love you guys, awesome.

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01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. I remember this show was brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Mountain deude, Embrace the code red.

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Speaker 6: You could stay oooh every day, and and you happy

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01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 6: every minute. It's been so long that you're the mona.

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Speaker 3: Wait for it's happened already.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be grippy.