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Speaker 1: What's up everyone. We are back with Bechler Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I am Joe and I am Serena and this is

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Speaker 2: a special crossover episode with almost famous Ben and Ashley.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that they are here. You guys, you've

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Speaker 1: been doing this for seven years. I thought I'd been

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Speaker 1: in the franchise for a long time. But seven years.

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Speaker 1: How do we feel.

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Speaker 3: The podcast has been seven years? Yeah, we've been part

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Speaker 3: of it for more than that. So it's been almost

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Speaker 3: nine years for Mason's filming.

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Speaker 1: No way, Ben, how about you?

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Speaker 4: Probably eight then?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit last year a year after Ashley

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Speaker 4: was when I I guess was the Bachelor, but the

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Speaker 4: Bachelorette season happened right after Ashley's season.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's.

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Speaker 4: Funny as you announced this, Joe, I just thought, yes,

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Speaker 4: it's been a while, it still feels fresh. Part of

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Speaker 4: that is because I think many of us were pretty

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Speaker 4: young when we were on the show, and so a

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Speaker 4: lot of people you know now are even older than

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Speaker 4: I am today and they're just now going on the show.

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Speaker 4: But it's it's interesting that we're we're still the ones

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Speaker 4: talking about it like this is like we're still the

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Speaker 4: ones engaged in it that like that kind of new

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Speaker 4: blood hasn't came through and taken over our jobs, which

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy about, so thankful for Well.

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Speaker 1: You your season of The Bachelor. I specifically remember you,

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Speaker 1: Ben because you were like the first, like you were

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Speaker 1: like the first young guy that became a lead.

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Speaker 5: How old were you?

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Speaker 4: Well, when I was on, uh, the Bachelor, I had

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Speaker 4: just turned twenty five and then so I was twenty

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Speaker 4: five during the Bachelor, I believe, so I was pretty young.

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Speaker 4: I was the same young to Jesse Palmer who was

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Speaker 4: like a month younger than me when he was the Bachelor.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I was a young lead.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Ben, you were. You were a young lead. But

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Speaker 1: let's just kind of go back and Ashley, you could

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Speaker 1: jump in on this. Were you guys the first Bachelor podcast?

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Speaker 5: We were?

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Speaker 4: Yes, we were now Jason Mesnik had one with his

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Speaker 4: wife three years right, and it did great. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: it was it was kind of we were the first

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Speaker 4: Bachelor podcast. Once podcasts had a revenue stream and had

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Speaker 4: a model around it, it was still the wild West

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Speaker 4: in a lot of ways, but they became like ad

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Speaker 4: platforms and the ability to edit better kind of right

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Speaker 4: when we launched and so they did it still with recordings,

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Speaker 4: but it was very raw, but people were still listening.

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Speaker 4: It was kind of like AM re am radio compared

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Speaker 4: to FM radio, and then you know, you expand and

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Speaker 4: evolved into what we have today, which are good pieces

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Speaker 4: of content. So I would say we were the first

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Speaker 4: to do that in this kind of new era podcast,

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Speaker 4: and then a lot of them followed, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could. You could also for our listeners, as

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Speaker 1: you could catch the first half of this at almost

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Speaker 1: famous this conversation because I did mention. I did mention it.

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Speaker 1: But I remember recording with you guys, and Ben saying

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Speaker 1: like he asked me a question that I think might

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Speaker 1: have been inappropriate, and he's like, no one listens to this,

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Speaker 1: and then the producer chimed in and is like, we

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Speaker 1: have like an insane amount of listeners, Ben, what do

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Speaker 1: you What are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Was the question.

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Speaker 3: I remember, for some reason, you were in the studio

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Speaker 3: alone with me and Ben was over his FaceTime or

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Speaker 3: whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So I.

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Speaker 3: Remember just being like sitting next to you and you

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Speaker 3: being so nervous and shy and being like this guy

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Speaker 3: we got I get him become more comfortable?

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Speaker 5: Does he need to drink.

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Speaker 1: You could, you could truly, I think you could truly

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Speaker 1: like feel my anxiety and my negative energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just probably threw one at you to say this

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Speaker 4: guy has no chance.

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Speaker 1: It's like this guy with him, asshole? Do you got

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Speaker 1: a personality?

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Speaker 5: I can say, listen this guy up.

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Speaker 3: How would we ever think that you would become such

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Speaker 3: a staple in the best of French it's really such

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Speaker 1: Here I am, but almost famous? How did you two?

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Speaker 1: How did you two become YouTube?

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Speaker 5: You know, just being us?

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Speaker 1: Was it? But like, how did you decide to do

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous together? Was it after Winter Game?

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Speaker 3: Oh? No, no, we were paired together via our producer

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Speaker 3: Amy Sugarman. She was like, actually, you're kind of like

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Speaker 5: Of you together.

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Speaker 3: And then we ended up doing Window Games together about

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Speaker 3: six months after we started recording the podcast. So it

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Speaker 3: was just really easy to go into that show when

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Speaker 3: you had somebody who was such a true friend. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was probably also good for just like your podcasting

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Speaker 2: relationship to get to spend so much time together in person,

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Speaker 2: like filming a show together, like you probably came out

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Speaker 2: of that even stronger hosts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and it's it's interesting. So the show's

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Speaker 4: original idea was they didn't really know who was going

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Speaker 4: to host it, but you know, our producer Amy had

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Speaker 4: an idea that she wanted to have a bachelor's show.

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Speaker 4: She's been involved in the Bachelor franchise for a while.

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Speaker 4: I kind of thrown some different hosts out there, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I was coming fresh off of my season

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Speaker 4: as the Bachelor, so it's kind of the name that,

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Speaker 4: you know, was lucky enough to hit that timing. We

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Speaker 4: line we would record via cell phone. Obviously today we don't,

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Speaker 4: but the thing that worked for Ashley and I, and

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Speaker 4: I think people nowadays see it more than they did

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Speaker 4: at the beginning. Ashley and I have always been more

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Speaker 4: similar than we are different. You know, we have different

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Speaker 4: ways of expressing our emotions, obviously, and kind of different

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Speaker 4: interests in life. She loves boy bands and pop culture

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Speaker 4: and I care less about any of it.

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Speaker 1: But the way we.

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Speaker 4: See the world and the way we you know, we

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Speaker 4: wanted to have a podcast where this wasn't like the

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Speaker 4: to bash, we love to judge, we love to critique, but.

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Speaker 5: We don't really wish we could do it more, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we don't want to ruin anybody's life through

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Speaker 4: to us. And then when people ask me how we

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Speaker 4: knows the statuses. She like has really good ideas of

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Speaker 4: what's going on in the franchise. I know nothing half

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Speaker 6: No, No.

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Speaker 5: Ben then knows like the morality of people. Then he

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, really because he wore stupid earrings and

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Speaker 6: then he's like, but what.

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Speaker 5: Do the earrings mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And so I'm like the dad that gets to like

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Speaker 4: and Ashley gets to keep us moving and grooving, and

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Speaker 4: I just keep this on time of it and not

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Speaker 4: So it's been fun and the chemistry has just grown

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Speaker 4: I think over seven years.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's great. It sounds like you guys

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Speaker 2: as hosts. And and you mentioned like you guys have

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Speaker 2: about having disagreements on the podcast. Would you have any

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Speaker 2: like major memorable disagreements from your time hosting together, because

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Speaker 2: you know, you talked a lot about the good stuff,

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Speaker 2: like give us the ugly well, I mean like.

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Speaker 5: Big fights, no, no real fights.

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Speaker 3: But right now he doesn't understand why I could defend

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Speaker 5: I say that I play Devil's advocate a lot just because.

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Speaker 2: Like I can see why Charity's swooned immediately by him,

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Speaker 2: Like it's not gonna last long, but like I get

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Speaker 2: it as a girl. Yeah, I've actually said the same thing,

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Speaker 2: And I feel like that's the good thing too about

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Speaker 2: guys obviously have strong pains on Braiden this season. How

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think, I think the behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: for a bit in Ashley's story, I remember vividly when

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Speaker 4: for real, Yeah, it was perfect timing for the launch

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes, it's not always been pretty with me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it's ever been pretty,

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Speaker 4: it's right, but I'm kind of in this. I'm stuck

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Speaker 4: in it, and it feels good because now I'm mass

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Speaker 4: lonely and Ashley's been there for that and sometimes those

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Speaker 4: things used to more than now get expressed on the show,

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Speaker 4: and uh, and it was good to have that person

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Speaker 4: with me, Like Ashley very quickly stepped into a confidante

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Speaker 4: She knew enough about what my experience is like as

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Speaker 4: where are you at? What's going on? Like, snap out

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Speaker 4: of it. You can't be doing this stupid stuff. So

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Speaker 4: that's those maybe are disagreements, but there's just been some

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Speaker 4: ugly moments behind the scenes, and and some like good

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Speaker 5: Now, Jared's not into you when I'm like thing he is.

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Speaker 5: I think, I think, I think I.

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Speaker 4: Think I got him.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't. You did force him, if that was your plan.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't forced, guys, your woman's intuition was right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, you got him. But you know, uh,

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Speaker 4: So there's those moments like and those are things that

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Speaker 1: I feel like Joey's Joey's a close second. But Charity

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Speaker 4: I don't mind, Yeah, Like did you go out of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, take on Xavier. I do agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Not to have a disagreement. Not to have a disagreement here,

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, we picked after episode one and no, I

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Speaker 3: You guys, she really threw us off last week's we

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Maybe, though, I mean it's yeah, she's cute. It's really odd.

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Speaker 2: I think that she thought maybe one on one he'll

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Speaker 1: I know he wasn't even interested in going on the show.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why she wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Looking for a relationship.

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Speaker 3: He basically said it, I don't really jump into relationships

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Speaker 4: Are the statement on the Bachelor, Like what like if

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Speaker 4: there's one, if there's like a top three statements to

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Speaker 5: I'm a very good communicator. That's why she's like, what

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Speaker 1: Well, it's so crazy, like this show has been around

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Speaker 1: Before we let you you guys go, Ashley, I do

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Speaker 5: Success? What paradise is? Yes? Successful as and leads to marriage?

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Speaker 5: Good character because watching the wrestling guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we watch a Braiden and we're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: he's if he doesn't end up with Charity, he's going

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Speaker 3: You do just say, like Joey is okay?

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Speaker 5: So this is this is why Joey's not screwing out

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be there because I think

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Speaker 4: Take the mathematics out of it.

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Speaker 1: Of who could then.

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Speaker 5: Definitely Joe anybody else I shouldn't even think of anymore.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think Aaron Bay.

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Speaker 5: You have to be sure. I thought about Xaber for

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think there's a lot of peer I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think the one thing about this cast, yes, Ashley

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Speaker 4: is a great change. And I think that makes good

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Speaker 4: I just don't think it makes a great cast because

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Speaker 4: and that lead this ship. Which is fine. I'm happy

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Speaker 5: I absolutely agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully I'm assuming though as the season goes on,

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Speaker 1: shine and we see their personalities. But we've been running

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Speaker 1: a little too late. We got to let you guys

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Speaker 1: go because I know you're very very busy. Thank you, Ben,

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Speaker 1: and thank you Ashley. For being here, and thank you

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Speaker 1: so much to our listeners for tuning in.

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Speaker 5: And don't forget.

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Speaker 2: New episodes of The Bobster air every Monday at nineteenth

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Speaker 2: Central on ABC and then stream the next day on Hullo.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and make sure to tune in to new episodes

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Speaker 1: of Bachelor Happy Hour every week. We are going to

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Speaker 1: have some great guests now. We've got all kinds of

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening, Thanks Ben and Ashley again,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see everyone next week.

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Speaker 5: Bye, thank you, bye,