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Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to Between the Horns, our second miles and

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Speaker 1: defourt episode of the week. However, time over time exactly

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Speaker 1: well we needed it. If you missed the last episode,

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Speaker 1: you want to go back and listen to that deep

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Speaker 1: dive into the Cowboys victory, you should definitely go do that.

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Speaker 1: But today it is Thursday, January seventeenth, about ten thirty

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Speaker 1: am Pacific time, in rainy Agora Hills, California. It is

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Speaker 1: very rainy, DeMarco. I'm sure it took you a lot

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Speaker 1: of time to get up here today. You know, actually

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Speaker 1: the same amount of time. It's just it's wet. It's

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Speaker 1: it's wet and rainy. It's everywhere. It's nice to see

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Speaker 1: the mountains growing back though, Yes that's true. What was

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Speaker 1: once you know, dead and gone is now growing back.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's pretty cool, Yes it is. So it

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Speaker 1: is now also time for us to really take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into this Saints game from the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: And I you know, it's funny because I've never covered

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Speaker 1: in a NFC Championship game. I've never you know, like

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Speaker 1: I've never been I've never covered one. And so it's

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Speaker 1: like going to the moon, right, Like you said this

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Speaker 1: the other day, Like it's January seventeenth and we're still working. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and at this time usually it's okay, you know, what

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Speaker 1: are we doing for this? What are we doing for that?

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Speaker 1: And we're really preparing for the offseason. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the way this has gone. And like I love that

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Speaker 1: we are still working. Yeah, it's still fun. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. You've earned it. The entire team, fan base, everybody.

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Speaker 1: This is great. It's a great ride. Now you got

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Speaker 1: to go see Clever Lang one more time. You see

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Speaker 1: what Clever Lang. Yeah, obviously you've never seen Rocky Rocky three.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, look, you gotta go see the guy

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Speaker 1: your worst fear. You got to go back to that place.

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Speaker 1: You got to go back to New Orleans to get

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Speaker 1: it done. But yeah, you are essentially one game away

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Speaker 1: from the super Bowl. Not essentially, you are yeah, one

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Speaker 1: game away from the super Bowl. I mean, look, this

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Speaker 1: is what you dream about as a kid, this is

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Speaker 1: what you fantasize about as a professional, being in a

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Speaker 1: position to where you can actually qualify for and try

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Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. Try to become immortal, try

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Speaker 1: to become a champion. So it's great because, look, you

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Speaker 1: got to go through a team that went through you

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Speaker 1: in Week nine, right, a team that seems to have

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Speaker 1: your number there. So I like it. Some people call it,

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Speaker 1: you know, a scary environment. I call it a wonderful

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Speaker 1: opportunity to go exercise some demons. You I mean you

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Speaker 1: obviously played there in the sun. Yeah, because back then

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Speaker 1: when you were playing, that was before realignment, So this

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Speaker 1: is when the Rams and Saints were in the same division.

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Speaker 1: So just what is it like going to that building.

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Speaker 1: It's an old, crusty rivalry Number one. This goes back

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Speaker 1: a long way and Saints fans and Saints players taking

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Speaker 1: liberties against the Rams has been going on a long time.

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Speaker 1: I just had this discussion with Isaac Bruce when he

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Speaker 1: was on the sideline for when the Rams were playing Dallas,

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Speaker 1: and he was telling me what he used to do

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Speaker 1: to their dbs or what they tried to do to him, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know physically, so what he would do to get

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Speaker 1: them back and to try to unnerve them. And it

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Speaker 1: was the only time I actually saw Marshall Falk like

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Speaker 1: blow a gasket was in New Orleans, really throw a punch,

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Speaker 1: you know, like he got so mad. Jim haslet the

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Speaker 1: whole Spygate all that happened there in New Orleans. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into this this game for

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Speaker 1: these two teams. But you know, it's a tough place

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Speaker 1: to play. It's loud, it's a big stadium. It's huge.

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Speaker 1: It is massive. It's massive, and they fill it with

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Speaker 1: is good at getting under your skin. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: one of those buildings where I feel like it's one

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Speaker 1: of the loud us in the league, and then you

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. Last week, it was like the Eagles

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Speaker 1: well for them, but all he needed was that Marshawn

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Speaker 1: Now the crowd is back into it and now you know,

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Speaker 1: everything just starts to snowball. It's how do you avoid

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Speaker 1: You know, Drew Brees Sean Payton have kind of taken

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Speaker 1: like you said, the noise just goes through the rafters

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Speaker 1: and they won't let you off the hook. Right, So

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to play great football and if you

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Speaker 1: do have a mistake. If you do make a mistake,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean the game is over. It just means

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Speaker 1: they're momentum and the noise is going to be sky high.

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Speaker 1: You can still take it back from them. It's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough to do it. Well. The Rams did

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen them go into that building and perform.

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Speaker 1: I would necessarily say, well, but you know, perform to

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Speaker 1: even when you look like you might be out of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, thirty five to fourteen is a score when,

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Speaker 1: especially when it's in the second quarter, where it looks

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Speaker 1: like you're out of it, no doubt. And go back

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Speaker 1: to week nine. Man if Johnny Hecker picks up that

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Speaker 1: first down on that fake field goal, that game is different. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: We sat in this room and said the same thing,

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Speaker 1: so and Sean McVay acknowledge that, and maybe he'd try

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Speaker 1: the same thing again, maybe he won't, maybe he'll take

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Speaker 1: the points. But you learn from losses like that. But

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Speaker 1: even with that, you still had a chance to win

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Speaker 1: down there, and they made just as many plays against

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Speaker 1: you still had a chance to beat them. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world that they're good.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be loud. This is a really good

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Speaker 1: football team that travels well. Absolutely, So let's talk. Let's

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Speaker 1: start here. What do you think that the Rams can

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Speaker 1: really take away from the week ninety five to thirty

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Speaker 1: let's try this guy, let's try that. No, he can

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Speaker 1: he's lined up outside the formation as a receiver, you

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Speaker 1: and what won't, so so I think you'll have a

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Speaker 1: the run defense has come along the way in Dominican

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Speaker 1: Sue has I guess woken up, so to speak. You know,

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Speaker 1: That'll give you a half a chance against mark Ingram

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Speaker 1: and Kamara carrying the football. So if you can force

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Speaker 1: every drive type scenario, you have a better chance of

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Speaker 1: beating him. Well, what I thought was interesting yesterday. You know,

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Speaker 1: you bring up Sue and He was saying, you know

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Speaker 1: let's playoff. They fixed the hyper drive, so you're not

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Speaker 1: Millennium Falcon. They finally fixed the hyper drive. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Exactly how many times in the movie have you seen

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Speaker 1: biser it's not my fault. Well, I mean finally in

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Speaker 1: Dominican Sue has started to play Like in Dominican zu Um,

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Speaker 1: you start to dominate up front whenever you can, I guess,

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Speaker 1: dominate the A gaps and there's always two A gaps

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Speaker 1: on either side of the center. If you can dominate

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Speaker 1: that with one guy, you win on defense, stopping the run. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about this in the last episode. I

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Speaker 1: to the perimeter, you've got a better chance of getting

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Speaker 1: these guys on the ground. Absolutely. So what he was

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Speaker 1: Sue was talking about yesterday and I'll just read the

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Speaker 1: this playoff football. You know, Sean McVay was talking about

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Speaker 1: how there seemed to be just something in his eye

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's playoff football. I've been there before.

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Speaker 1: I've always prided myself on playing at a high level.

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Speaker 1: It's always great a goal for me to prove that

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Speaker 1: I'm an elite player, and it was a platform to

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Speaker 1: do that. So I was putting some positions to make plays,

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Speaker 1: saw things in the particular offense that they wanted to

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Speaker 1: do that I could affect and took my shots. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You know what's he's been in this league since what

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Speaker 1: twenty ten. He doesn't miss snaps, he doesn't miss starts.

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Speaker 1: He's always out there. I think the only games he's

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Speaker 1: missed is due to suspension. So it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: wear and tear. So I think he's been smart about

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Speaker 1: how keeping himself active and healthy throughout the regular season

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Speaker 1: enough so you can turn it on in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: That's what it looks like to me. It's been a

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Speaker 1: completely different guy. Yeah. I don't mind that as long

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Speaker 1: as you keep riking shop when it matters well, right, exactly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is why, and we said this the

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Speaker 1: other day too, this is why they signed him, right,

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Speaker 1: this is why so that you can go to the

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Speaker 1: MFAC Championship and have this guy there and when you

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Speaker 1: need him to stop two very very very good running backs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you want him to do. And so if

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Speaker 1: he can, if he can keep playing at that level,

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Speaker 1: then the Rams are going to be in good shape.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like Shaquille O'Neill back in the day

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Speaker 1: when he played for the Lakers. I mean Shack only

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Speaker 1: started to play after Christmas, before Christmas didn't matter. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's not but that's Lebron James still in

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Speaker 1: some ways. I mean, like the there's a reason why

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Speaker 1: learn from that? In seeing what the Saints went through?

425
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: I mean they were down fourteen nothing, come back and

426
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: win twenty. Well, okay, this is great. Let me start here.

427
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find reasons why they're so good on defense,

428
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: and numbers really don't tell. But they're really good against

429
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: the run. I think that's obvious, right, yes there? Okay,

430
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 1: Then I scoured the internet or at least these stat columns.

431
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't find a single neutral zone infraction on their

432
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: defense really, which means they don't get off at all.

433
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 1: They sit and they catch. So their stated goal is

434
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,199
Speaker 1: to stop the run, rush the passer. Second, then you

435
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 1: look at who they played. If you I don't know

436
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: who you consider elite quarterbacks, but elite pocket passers, right,

437
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 1: who would you consider that in the league, Brady Breeze,

438
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: but they're not going to play him. Um, okay, well

439
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,479
Speaker 1: they had Matt Ryan, Yeah, okay, Roethlisberger and go if

440
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: you want to count Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he did beat

441
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: them week one. As far as elite quarterbacks pocket passed,

442
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: they haven't faced that many. And the ones that they did,

443
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: I think completed like something like seventy percent of their passes.

444
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: You're going to have time to throw in New Orleans.

445
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: You just have to be accurate with the football. Interesting. Yeah,

446
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: So that's I mean, I think that's what you sort

447
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: of saw last week, is that when the Eagles had

448
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: time late in the game, especially exactly so, and if

449
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: al Sean Jeffrey catches that late pass instead of letting

450
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: it bounce off his hands on that game, you think

451
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: so absolutely they were driving the football. Nick Foles I

452
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 1: think was you know, he was taking advantage of what

453
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: the defense was given them, going vertical dropping dimes. For

454
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: the most part, that last pass to all Sean Jeffrey

455
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: was right where you needed it to be on in

456
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 1: that part of the field. I mean, that was that

457
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: was danger for that defense if he catches it, so

458
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: especially if he turns it up. But you look, Roethlisberger

459
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: had time. I think he put it up fifty times.

460
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan had a career day against them in twenty

461
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: eighteen early in the year, so you'll have a chance

462
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: to sit back and survey and throw. Well. Even Jared

463
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: Goff had a pretty decent game in that one the

464
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: last time. I mean, you get the linebacker whose name

465
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: begins with yes, long hair. Yes. Yeah, he made a

466
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: great play to get that pick late in the in

467
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: the first half. But I mean, aside from that, Jared

468
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: Goff had a really nice day yeah in New Orleans,

469
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: and you needed it in order to get that game

470
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: tied at thirty five, no doubt. Now you have to

471
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: be accurate throwing the football, and number two, as a receiver,

472
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: you got to help your quarterback because he's not going

473
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: to be able to throw you open. Because they do

474
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: play discipline in pass coverage, just like Atlanta did a

475
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: year ago. They're gonna they're gonna drop where they need

476
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: to drop and cover the field and expect you to

477
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: make a play around them. They're not going to get

478
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: beat with their eyes that much. So guys like Cook

479
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: or Brandon Cooks, Guys like Robert Woods are gonna have

480
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: to step up and make plays for the quarterback versus

481
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: the other way around. I throw Josh Reynolds in there

482
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: as well, especially because of the way he can get

483
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: up vertically, no doubt. I mean and look and sometimes

484
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: that's all that's available per Their defense is vertical roots.

485
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: I think Robert Woods, Cooks Reynolds comfortable going vertical. Even

486
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,239
Speaker 1: the tight ends are comfortable going verticals should be. You're

487
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: gonna be man covers, yeah, yes, yes, they need to be. Um,

488
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: what do you think of Sean Payton as a play caller?

489
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Love him? Yeah? Yeah, he was what he's everything we've

490
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: said about Sean McVay you said about him when he

491
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: took the job. Yes, yeah, a little more of a

492
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: maverick as far as taking chances. But I think Sean

493
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: McVeagh is right on his heels certainly. Yeah. I mean,

494
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. He's gonna find open looks for breeze.

495
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: You know, he really is the offense and the play

496
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: call is going to work if you don't blow it

497
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: up right, same thing here, ye, Yes, it's interesting because

498
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, you look at it. Sean Payton took this

499
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: team to the NFC Championship Game back into two thousand

500
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: and six, which I believe was his first year there,

501
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, and then they went in two thousand

502
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: and nine, won the Super Bowl and haven't been back

503
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game since then, which you know,

504
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: because he's been there so long you almost don't even

505
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: realize it. But that's a long time between appearances in

506
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: the Championship Game to possibly go to the Super Bowl

507
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: to still maintain what's been going on there. Yeah, And

508
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: but I mean, look, Drew Brees has still been Drew Brees,

509
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 1: and they've always been knocking on the door. So you know,

510
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: a couple of twister turns here, maybe I wouldn't say

511
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: it it'll be like a Patriots like run for them,

512
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, they're always a contender. You never at

513
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: the end of the year or in December, you're never

514
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: not talking about New Orleans, or at least not in

515
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: the conversation. Well, right, because of that partnership that Peyton

516
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: and Brees have, and you know that's what Sean mcvayh

517
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: and Jared Goff, you want them to become that kind

518
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: of partnership where you talk about these guys and It's

519
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: almost like they're synonymous and the same because they I

520
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: have that kind of partnership that has been so long

521
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: lasting and so profitable, if you will, you know, speaking

522
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: of profitable, it must feel like a billionaire feels when

523
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about money ever. Again, it's

524
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: like you focus on other things. And when the elite

525
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: teams that are always around the playoffs or in the playoffs,

526
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: they always have good offenses. Yes, you don't have to

527
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: worry about scoring points. Yes, that's not a factor. You

528
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: have that guy. So I think you're on the upswing

529
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: here offensively with these two guys. It's been good for

530
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: two years. It's only going to get better. Absolutely. All right,

531
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: let's go matchup by matchup like we did UM with

532
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: Dallas last week. I think that worked very So we'll

533
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: start here. So Drew Brees Michael Thomas versus the Rams

534
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: secondary thinking of that one, Oh god, it's it's a

535
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: tough one. Yeah. Look, when when the offense is flowing

536
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: and when Mike Thomas is a part of the offense, UM,

537
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: in terms of I guess, how do I say this

538
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: UM in the rhythm of the offense, he's still dangerous.

539
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: That means like Kamaro touches it, then Ingram touches it,

540
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: and then Mike Thomas and then they spread the ball around.

541
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: He is dangerous. Make a mistake, He's gone when they

542
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: get in the hole, like as in if it's a

543
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: penalty on first down, they get sacked on second down

544
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: and they need to make plays to make it up.

545
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: They're going to him. You know it, everyone knows it,

546
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: and you still can't stop it. He is. He's just

547
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: having a fantastic season. He's just got the glow of

548
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: this year. He had a career high two hundred and

549
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: eleven yards receiving against the Rams back in Week nine.

550
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: So the other part of that isn't happen again. Well

551
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: absolutely yeah. A key Talib though was not playing in

552
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: that game, and since Talib has been back, so in

553
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: games with Talib, the Rams are letting up sixty six

554
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: fewer passing yards per game during the during the season

555
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: and in the playoffs. So got that staff from our

556
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: wise staff writer Clarence Dennis, So thank you for that.

557
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: But that is I think something that is pretty significant

558
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: for this matchup. One of your best corners, your bigger,

559
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: more physical corners, is back out there with somebody with

560
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: championship experience. Yeah. Look he does it all on first

561
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: and ten. He comes up and makes a great play

562
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: on the run. So now at second and ten, which

563
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: means their their passing menu is going to be a

564
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: little bit thinner, and he's gonna know the splits and

565
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: the routes and everything. So he just makes everything better.

566
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: So it's no shock that you're it's tougher to throw

567
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: against the Rams with Talib being on the field. I

568
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: expect the same thing on Sunday. It'll be tougher to

569
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: find Mike Thomas now that you have two corners, two

570
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: guys that can shadow him on either side of Drew Brees.

571
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Do you think that the Rams would shadow Mike Thomas

572
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: with a key t leab or do you think that

573
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: they would rather just keep playing sides the usually no question. No,

574
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Um, I'd want to make Mike Thomas prove

575
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: it again. I'd want to give Marcus Peters another shout

576
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: at him. I wouldn't want to say I don't feel

577
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: comfortable with this matchup. Okay, yeah, I wouldn't want to

578
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: do that right off the bat. I'd play it straight

579
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: to leave on one side Peters. On the other let

580
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas choose where he wants to go. But I

581
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: would feel comfortable with both corners. Now I would have

582
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: a quick hook. If it starts to go backwards, right

583
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: then I could always say, Okay, you got him. And

584
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: in certain situations, just like when the when when the

585
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: Rams played the Eagles, when you saw it to leave

586
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: on earths, when it's a key situation, it's an obvious

587
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: pass and they got to have it and you got

588
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: to stop it, then I might say to lead go

589
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, you got him here. We can't have

590
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: mistakes right and that So that I think is is

591
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: a good plan probably m I think Marcus Peters will

592
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: be motivated to try to stop Mike Thomas. But I

593
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: think also Wade Phillips will probably call things a little

594
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: bit differently than he did in that first matchup. You

595
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: think that's fair, Uh, well, we'll see. I mean, I

596
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't get too far away from you, know, doing what

597
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: you're doing. Um, I would say the only guys that

598
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: you really need a game plan for, or a game

599
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: plan would actually help you as against Amara, depending on

600
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: where he lines up and how you want to cover him.

601
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Slash get pressure on the on the quarterback because if

602
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: it's in the passing game, make Breeze get the ball

603
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: out now. If he's throwing it to Kamara, make sure

604
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: he gets it out in the step. Okay, So you

605
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: have at least four guys rallying to the ball. If

606
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: it's if you wait and it's delayed and it's one

607
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: on one in the flat or anywhere on the field,

608
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: the guy's gonna win. How do the safety's factor into

609
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: this in terms of the past defense with Joiner John Johnson, Uh,

610
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in coverage against either a bigger tight

611
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: end or a small, quick guy like Kamara, So you're

612
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to be counted on as a cover guy.

613
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna be backpedaling a lot. And when they do

614
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: run the football, if you if they spread it out

615
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: and run it at you, at some point you're gonna

616
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: have to make a one on one tackle with one

617
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: of those guys and you cannot miss. So they're gonna

618
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: factor in big time to this game. John Johnson and

619
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Stroiner. To be honest with you, I think both

620
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: of those guys are good at the open field tackling,

621
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: Especially John Johnson. I think he maybe is the best

622
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: open field tackler that the Rams have. Would you agree

623
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: with that? And oh yeah, I mean they're good. Yeah.

624
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they they're smart, they know when to break,

625
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: they do their homework. You know, there's not a ton

626
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: of separation between defender and guy when they have to

627
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: come up and make these open field tackles. That's when guys,

628
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, are made to miss, when they miss tackles,

629
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: when they're laid on the break right, you know, and

630
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: they get there and they'll Now whoever it is has

631
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: a chance to get north, you know, set your speed

632
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: and then set you up for a move. If you

633
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: get to his hip right when he turns around, then

634
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: the play is just dead. There is no yard yards

635
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: have to catch. Yes, exactly right. So let's talk more

636
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: about the running back, So Kamara and Ingram versus the

637
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: Rams run defense. Can the Rams defense keep it up? Absolutely?

638
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I hope so they better? Right, Yeah, it's funny. I mean, look,

639
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't say he didn't make any plays because

640
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald did make some plays on Zeke Elliott stopping

641
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: the run. They did you stop Dallas the best running

642
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: back in the league or the leading rusher in the

643
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: NFL when Aaron Donald was the second best defensive tackle

644
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: on the field that day. Now, imagine if you had

645
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: both guys playing like Sue played so and that's what

646
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: it's going to take versus run and passed. If you're doubled,

647
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: hold the point, if you're single block, blow it up

648
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: and beat two yards in the backfield. You've got to

649
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: help on Kamara. You've got to help on Ingram. They

650
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: just can't run Scott free until your secondary because they

651
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: will make people miss, yes for sure. And the thing

652
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: about though Kamara is that he just does such a

653
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: good job of being shifty that it's almost like, wait

654
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: a minute, how is everybody still missing him in terms

655
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: of tackles. And that happened I think a lot in

656
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Week nine where especially early in the game, where he

657
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: was just like getting through I think his first touchdown

658
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: when he ran in on the left side with ten

659
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: eleven yards. Yeah, the Rams had opportunities to bring him

660
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: down and they just didn't. Yeah, you have to make

661
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: those tackles in this game. It's like he's sprayed with silicone. Yeah,

662
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: it's slippery. You ever seem like a squirrel that gets

663
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: caught in the middle of a road and he's dodging traffic. Yeah, yeah,

664
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: it's that's Kamara. It's so funny and like it looks

665
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: like he's on one of those people movers in the airport.

666
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: He's just going faster than everybody else. But the thing

667
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: is you have to have a coordinated effort with him.

668
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: You do. If you cast a wide net and everybody

669
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: is where they're supposed to be, there is no hole

670
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: for him to go, and you forced the little guy

671
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: to go through you, Right, that's what you want. And

672
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the less success he has early, the less you'll see

673
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: him in the fourth quarter. If they have to keep

674
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: pounding him and pounding him and pounding him, it's gonna

675
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: take a toll on his body. He's not that big. Well,

676
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: last year in the twenty seventeen season, when the Rams

677
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: beat the Saints at the Coliseum, he had basically that

678
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: one long run I think it was either seventy four

679
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: seventy five yards, and then after that, yeah, right, and

680
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: then after that it was basically not very much. So

681
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: what you have to do, and this one is you

682
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: can't even let that seventy however many yards go. You

683
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: have to stop him from the beginning to the end.

684
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, you know. Look, the one thing I

685
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: would not give him at all is the benefit of

686
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: the sideline. Every carry, every touch is going to end

687
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field with our guy or

688
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: two guys falling on top of you. You don't get

689
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: to carry the football advances fifteen yards and then walk

690
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: out of bounds and not pay a toll, not pay

691
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: a physical toll for it. I mean, look, he's gonna

692
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: slice and dice you, but keep him in bounds and

693
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: get bodies on him setting the edge. I think the

694
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: Rams did a great job of that last week with

695
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: the outside linebackers Dante Fowl or Sampson Aboucom. They did

696
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: not let Zeke get to the outside and basically do

697
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: what you're saying, get out of bounds without taking the

698
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: toll on anything. And that allows the linebackers to all

699
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: the inside linebackers, I should say, to also funnel in

700
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: and make sure that they get that lick on him.

701
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: That is so funny. We've managed to go through almost

702
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: two and a half podcast and mentioned Sampson e Becom

703
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: dropping a sure fire touchdown. Oh, we definitely. I saw

704
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: him after the game. I just gave him like the

705
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: hands up look, and he's like, I know, I know,

706
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: I know they're giving him grief about it in the

707
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: locker room. Should they too? You should? Absolutely, he should

708
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: have done twenty five push ups right there. Oh. I

709
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: mean that's money just on the ground. Never get that

710
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: back again, never never, ever, ever, ever ever. And that

711
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: was your moment. But I mean, look, I think he did.

712
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: I think he's accepted his role and what he does.

713
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: He sets edge. Yeah, he is physical on the run.

714
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: Fowler is kind of your combo guy said edge, and

715
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: also is hot off the corner on a pass rushman.

716
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: Sampson is a guy that's all you do is build

717
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: the wall. You are a Peckett fence. Nothing gets outside

718
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: of you. You've heard me say the twenty one man rule, right,

719
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: I think so, But remind me how many guys on

720
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: the field twenty two at the twenty one man rule

721
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: means no one. There's twenty one guys to the right

722
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: of you. Wherever you line up gets outside. I don't care.

723
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: If it's a corner, you set the freaking edge and

724
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: you refuse to move right. Yeah, if they bring more

725
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: than two guys, a fullback, a guard, what have you

726
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: they're trying to kick you out, then good, build a wall,

727
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: fight guys and make it tough, make the guy have

728
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: to bounce. But you do not give up the edge ever, right,

729
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: And that's that's really the biggest key in run defense

730
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: in my opinion. I mean, but that and that goes

731
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: back to you know, you can play peewee football. It's

732
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: the same in high school football, it's the same in college,

733
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and it's the same in the pros. If you don't

734
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: let the running back get to the outside, because that

735
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: you don't let the offense seal off the edge. Yeah, yeah,

736
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have a better chance of stopping the

737
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: run out. Eddie Murphy's famous stand up about his father

738
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: talking to his wife about Lilian cannot use the phone. Okay,

739
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: So if that if he comes home and the house

740
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: is burning down and there's like, there's the fire department

741
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: is outside, you're in trouble, right because you weren't supposed

742
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: to use the phone. I don't care what happens. You

743
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: don't let anybody outside, period, I don't what it is.

744
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: Do your job. Don't peak. If if Kamara or Ingram

745
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: or anybody starts to peak to the inside that's not

746
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: your job. Yep. Let Corey Lyttleton, let Mark Baron, let Sue,

747
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: let Donald handle their own business. Your job is to

748
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: keep contain period. End of story. Yes. Now, the other

749
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: thing that could impact the Rams run defense is the

750
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: left side of the Saints line. It's a little bit

751
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: beat up with Armstead. So he's uh, okay, Armson is

752
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: a left tackle. My brain short circay for a second. Yeah,

753
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: so the left tackle you've been dealing with a torn

754
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: pack and so he said, you know, he told the

755
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: media played through a lot of pain against the Eagles.

756
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: You know, so that's something there. And then I just

757
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: pet it again. I just pete at left guard has

758
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: been plarently playing with a broken hand. So world's smallest

759
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: violin playing for you? Yeah, right now, Yeah, I mean so,

760
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean, look, those are things that are going to

761
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: probably make a difference. Look, when you're going against the

762
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: best defensive player in football and Aaron Donald, Yeah, you

763
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: got a broken hand, and you know the way he

764
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: chops down and does crazy stuff inside so he can

765
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: get past you. That's probably going to affect things, no doubt. Hey,

766
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: look stay healthy, bro, Hey, so what you gotta line

767
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: up and play. But if you look at that offensive

768
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: line versus Philadelphia, and Philadelphia has a really good defensive line.

769
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I think we can both say that right absolutely, And

770
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: if you look at the end of the season the

771
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: regular season, a lot of holding calls on that old line,

772
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: a lot of holding calls. So I think they had

773
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: three versus Philadelphia. So they're having a tough time getting guys,

774
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: keeping guys covered up. So an active front give them problems,

775
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: gives them a lot of problems. So expect a lot

776
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: of movement upfront from the Rams. If I'm Wade Phillips, yes,

777
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: and seeing what has given them problems, then I'm going

778
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: to move guys around constantly, see if they can move

779
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: their feet and pick guys up and stay on guys.

780
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: The thing that the Rams have to do is to

781
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: avoid the long drives, because that was really what separated

782
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and the Saints last weekend, is that the Saint's

783
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: got that really, really long drive in the third quarter,

784
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: one of the longest drives in postseason history, and they

785
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: were able to capitalize on their opportunities. Yeah, you can't

786
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: let that happen. I would say this man defensively, just

787
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: make them line up and snap it. Again, and I'm

788
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: sure Breeze can do it, and you've they've already shown

789
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: they can drive the ball forever. But good, make them

790
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: line up and do it again. Don't break, just do

791
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: not break at all. Yes, don't give up the big play.

792
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Make them earn it, because look, if you if they

793
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: keep throwing the football, you've said this. I think you

794
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: tweeted it out. There's three things that can happen you

795
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: throw the football, and two are bad. Yes, yeah, yes,

796
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: it's true. Yeah. Somebody tweeted what was that. It was

797
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: like some old coaching Saints. No no no, no, no no no,

798
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: but like somebody tweeted, like why don't they have like

799
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: like line up and like have girly throw a pass?

800
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, that's when I said that.

801
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: You know, when you throw the football, two three things

802
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: can happen. Two of them are bad. And that's even

803
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: more magnified when somebody that is not the quarterback is

804
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. True, So right right, if I'm gonna

805
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: throw it, I'm gonna let my quarterback throw it. Yes, yeah,

806
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: for the most part in this particular game. But there

807
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: is a guy that also throws it for the Saints.

808
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: It's not just their quarterback, Taysom Hill. And so how

809
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: do you prepare for a wild card like that? Because

810
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: he really is the wild card. I'd love to say

811
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: that you really can't prepare for him, but you really

812
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: can't because you don't know what he's going to do.

813
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: It's a huge thing that Drew Brees allows someone else

814
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: to take snaps at quarterback. That's a hell of a

815
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: cell job by Sean Payton, right, And you have to

816
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: be good at what you do, and he is really

817
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: good at what he does. They don't ask him to

818
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: survey the field, they don't ask him to read defenses.

819
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: They give him one read and it's either throw here

820
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: or run there. Yep. Yeah, And he's dangerous. He's he's

821
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: as tough as nails. He's a college type quarterback in

822
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: a pro environment. I mean, he's that stereotypical lunch pale guy,

823
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, blue collar, hard hat, brings is you know, whatever,

824
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: to work coach's son that he's that kind of guy's

825
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: he'll do anything. Yeah, you can play him on teams.

826
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean, what was the guy's name? Oh my god,

827
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: I sick. The Swiss army knife. I once saw Kyle

828
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: Uscheck absolutely destroy the Columbia defense. Oh oh yeah, when

829
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: he was at Harvard. Yeah, that's when I was still

830
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: in school. And Harvard scored I think thirty five points

831
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, twenty one of them within a

832
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: minute of game time. Wow, and I think he had

833
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: two or three of those. Tech guy loose in the

834
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: IVY League is unfair. Yeah, that's that's that's unfair. But

835
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a Swiss army knife so to speak. Uh,

836
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: he can and this guy actually has an arm he

837
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: can get the ball down the field. So you have

838
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: to play him. Honest, that's the bad thing. But you've

839
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: played mobile quarterbacks before. Don't make too much of it

840
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: than what it is. Just a guy that can run

841
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: and throw. You've seen guy. Hell, you play Russell Wilson

842
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: twice a year exactly. Yeah, So don't just go wow,

843
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: Gaga because he's running wildcat now. Of course not. And

844
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I think the other thing about that is like, stay home.

845
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: Don't just lose your matchups just because this guy might

846
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: run the football out of the backfield. Okay, that's fine,

847
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: but we gotta stay in coverage. Yeah, if you make

848
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: a mistake versus the offense or the pack as they

849
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: run with him, then that's how he gets his yards.

850
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Just don't make a mistake, play your responsibilities and make

851
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: him have to go, you know, through you to make

852
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: a play. It's just like playing any other Hell, Mitch

853
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: Trbitsky is the same kind of Yes, he's a pull

854
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: it down and run type guy. Yeah. Yeah. So let's

855
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: turn it to the Rams offense. So we'll talk Jared

856
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: Goff and the Rams wide receivers versus their past defense.

857
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: What do you see in that matchup there? Their past defense.

858
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: They're very good at what they do. Lattimore is tough.

859
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: You know, throw at him at your own peril. You know,

860
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: if it's an under thrown ball or a bad ball,

861
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: there's a chance that well there's a good chance your

862
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: guy won't get it, and there's an even greater chance

863
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: that he will. Yes. Yeah, So if you're going at him,

864
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: if the lay is called for the ball to go

865
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: in his direction, then it's got to be perfect because

866
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: he feasts on the imperfect, the end perfection. So he's

867
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: that good. But everywhere else, the way they cover, the

868
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: way they spread the field and pass coverage, they forced

869
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: you to go to go vertical, and they don't beat themselves.

870
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: So goff is gonna have to be accurate, and like

871
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: I said early, your receivers are going to have to

872
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: help your quarterback out by making a play, no doubt.

873
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I mean, especially with Lattimore. Two

874
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: picks last week against the Eagles, one on that sideline

875
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: down the left side line on the throw to Earth's

876
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: back when the Eagles were still up fourteen and nothing.

877
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: And then of course that late pick when it went

878
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: off Alshan Jeffrey's hands and it just went right into

879
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: the arms of Lattimore. So you can't make those kinds

880
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: of mistakes right like your golf, as you said, gonna

881
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: have to be accurate, especially when he's throwing there. If

882
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw a deep ball, don't underthrow it right,

883
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, because if you underthrow it, especially to somebody

884
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: who was as fast as Brandon Cooks, then that's how

885
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna get picked off, and that's how the turnover

886
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: is going to happen, especially if he's in trail. If

887
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: he's in trail position behind your receiver on a vertical route,

888
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: when you think you've got him, you don't. He's just

889
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: got crazy makeup speed and half the time, I believe

890
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: he's baiting you. Yeah, just like the best corners. He's

891
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: baiting you into throwing the football and then all of

892
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: a sudden he catches up and makes a better play

893
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: on the football than your receiver. He was the AP

894
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Defensive Rookie of the Year for a reason.

895
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: He's really, really, really really good. So the other guy. Look,

896
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: I would focus most of my attention on the other

897
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: guy really because either you'll have a chance for a

898
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: completion or he's the guy that you can draw penalties

899
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: against a lot. So I mean, I still wouldn't shy

900
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: away from anybody. I would say, if you have a

901
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: call play towards Lattimore, just make sure it's your best play.

902
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: But I think there are positions like Robert Woods, depending

903
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: on who covers him, Higbee Everett. The way they run

904
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: their defense with crossing routes, you're gonna have a chance

905
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: to make plays a lot of plays. That's the way

906
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: the Rams made play in that last game, that Cooper

907
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Cup forty one yard touchdown that went eventually went down

908
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: the left sideline. That was a crossing route that Cup

909
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: ran going from right to left, and then he was

910
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: able to make the catch and then get up the field,

911
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: and you got to break the tackle. And for crossing routes,

912
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: especially that deep, you got to have good protection. So

913
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: if you can find a way to limit the damage

914
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: that Cam Jordan can do from his left defensive end position,

915
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: you'll have time for those crossing routes to clear. Cam

916
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: Jordan did not, I mean, he was not. He wasn't

917
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: as effective as he sometimes is in that Week nine matchup.

918
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: I believe he had a sack or two in the

919
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen matchup. I can't remember off the top of

920
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: my head between these two teams. Yeah, I don't remember

921
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: off the top of my head either. But I mean

922
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: I think that Goff and company have done a pretty

923
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: good job of kind of taken away a edge rusher

924
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: like DeMarcus Lawrence. Yes, he was silent last week. Yeah,

925
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: you didn't take any bleeping souls. No, you screen, you snap,

926
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: You snap the football on a quick count, you hard count,

927
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: You change a lot, you win running the football. It

928
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: limits what they can do. Yeah, it limits what they

929
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: can do from that position. So if you have similar

930
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: success running the football, I think the less you'll hear

931
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: from him. Yes, but when you do have to open

932
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: up and pass, you have to make sure to take

933
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: him away so those crossing routes can clear. One thing

934
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: that I have noticed about the Rams offense, especially in

935
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, is that they've really stopped turning

936
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: the ball over. And we all know, like Jared Goff

937
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: was really the issue with that. I mean in you know,

938
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: between fumbles and interceptions. But since that first drive against

939
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: Arizona where j. C. J. Anderson and Rob Havenstein ran

940
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: into each other, they messed up a protection and then

941
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: Jared Goff fumbles on the sack, the Rams have not

942
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: given the ball away at all that you know. From

943
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: the end of that Arizona game San Francisco they didn't

944
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: have any giveaways. No giveaways against Dallas either. You play clean,

945
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: it really increases your chance to win. Yeah, you protect,

946
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: and you run the football. Absolutely run the football. That's

947
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: number one. That gets the defense to at least play

948
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: on us and collapse on the run. First, you'll have

949
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: a chance for boots, you have a chance for cleaner pockets.

950
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: Then you'll have a chance for the quarterback to keep

951
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: the football and delivered. But when you are in a

952
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: crowd and at some point with that defense, how discipline

953
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: they are, You're gonna have to hold it, hold the football,

954
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to make a play, either scrambling

955
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: or moving in the pocket to make something happen. So

956
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is lose the

957
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: football in your own end or anywhere on the field.

958
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: You can't lose it. Yeah, Job number one, protect ball.

959
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: Job number two is get the ball out. A punt

960
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: is so much better than a fumble, absolutely, yeah, especially

961
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: when you have a weapon like Hecker and bones fossil

962
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: guys that can cover. Yes, yes, no question. So you

963
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: brought up you have to run the football. Todd Gurley, C. J.

964
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Anderson versus the Saints run defense. I'm kind of interested

965
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: to see if they use more personnel groupings than just

966
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: eleven in this game, because the Saints do have a

967
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: good run defense. But we've seen the Rams use a

968
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: little bit of twelve lately. They did a little bit

969
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: of it last week against the Cowboys, especially at the

970
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: end there where when Goff ran that eleven yard run

971
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: on the boot that was actually in twelve personnel, but

972
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: more mostly they used it against Arizona, and so my

973
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: thought is maybe they use it then to sort of

974
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: ramp up to where they're using it in the postseason.

975
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: Let's see if they run. I think the average has

976
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: got sixty seventy plays. Yeah, half of those have to

977
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: be runs because you're controlling clock and that means you're

978
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: having success. So the first ten carries, and I don't

979
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: care who it is, either CJ. Todd or even Robert

980
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: Woods carrying on end a rounds and jet sweeps. I

981
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: bet the first ten are going to be tough sleddon

982
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: just because of how good New Orleans is and they're

983
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: playing with crowd noise. But the second ten to fifteen carries,

984
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: I think is what's going to win or lose you

985
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: the football game. Interesting. Yeah, if you can get to

986
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: fifteen carries after the first ten, that means you're up

987
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: to twenty five. Yeah, that means you're having success. That

988
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: means time of possession is either even or on your side.

989
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: So first ten tough sleddon. The second ten I expect

990
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: some breakaways because you're gonna know where they're in. You're

991
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: gonna know what scheme they're trying to use and who

992
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of. Remember, ranking is out, That's

993
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: exactly what I was going to bring up, Yeah, he's

994
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: out and it's gonna be hard to replace. Now, he's

995
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: a rotational guy, doesn't play the whole game anyway like

996
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Sue and Donald. Sure they rotate a lot. He's basically

997
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: a part time player. But it's gonna be hard to

998
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: replace that guy in the lineup for four straight quarters. Eventually,

999
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna find a hole. He's a good run stuffer

1000
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: and had eight sacks, so that's a lot of production

1001
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: that is removed because of his torn achilles that he

1002
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: sufered last week against fall desolutely and he's stout and

1003
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: they all play the same way upfront, Like I said,

1004
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: they catch, they're strong, they stay in their gaps. But

1005
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: without him, you're gonna bring in a guy like maybe

1006
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 1: is it Tyran Rocker they signed They did sign time

1007
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: was here, Yes, and no disrespect, but that's a huge

1008
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: drop off going from ranking to a guy off the couch.

1009
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: So if he's got to play major snaps, then look

1010
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: for the Rams to exploit that. Well, that's look that

1011
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line has been playing excellent over the last

1012
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: three games. And you know, you go back to the

1013
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Cardinals and Niners, you can say what you want about

1014
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: that the quality of the opponent, but look, Dallas's run

1015
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: defense was very vaunted. They held the Seahawks to seventy

1016
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: three yards rushing in that opening round of the playoffs.

1017
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: And we saw what the Rams did last week going

1018
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: up to two seventy three. That was not easy. No,

1019
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: And so that's the kind of production though, that you

1020
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: you need to win playoff games. I mean, look, it'd

1021
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: be nice if you can do it, but remember that

1022
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: was here, that was at home. Very fair. It's gonna

1023
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: be hard on the road. They're going to have a

1024
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: jump on you. That's why I see probably more pass

1025
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: attempts by Goff than rush attempts unless they're turning it

1026
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: over and you're winning, you're rush and you're running the

1027
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: football to end the game sooner than later. But at

1028
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: some point I expect him, like I said, the first

1029
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: ten carries, they're gonna be all over your run game.

1030
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: That's just what they do. And Jared Goff is going

1031
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: to have to keep you in the game enough so

1032
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: you're so the run game gets gets going towards the

1033
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: middle of the second, late in the third into the fourth.

1034
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: You got to convert those third down opportunities when when

1035
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: you have the chance or look, just stay out of it,

1036
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, keep those chunk plays on first down,

1037
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: second down, so you don't even have to get into

1038
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: third down whatever, and then you just continue down the

1039
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: field and get in the box, you know. I had

1040
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: another conversation with Kurt Warner, who I always go to

1041
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: for my quarterback questions. I think that's a good source

1042
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: of information. I think it's a great source. He's a

1043
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Yeah, what's what does he look for

1044
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: in quarterbacks? He says, make you have to make the

1045
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: plays you should make, Like when it's open and you're

1046
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: hitting a guy that's wide open to the flat, it's

1047
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: got to be on the money where he can use it. Yeah, right,

1048
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: not to spin around, catch at circus catch or too

1049
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: high to this. If you have space on the defense

1050
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: and they're giving you that space, that pass has to

1051
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: be on the money. You have to keep the pressure

1052
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: on the offense. Eventually you'll find cracks either in coverage

1053
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: or run in the football, but you have to keep

1054
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: it to second and five, third and two's pick up

1055
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: the first down, start all over again. If it's second

1056
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: and eleven, third and fourteen, I mean, come on, man,

1057
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: you're behind the chains. Yeah, Dan Marino, what had trouble

1058
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: picking that up consistently on the road, especially there right

1059
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: exactly all right, before we get out of here, then

1060
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: we one or two X factors for the Rams to

1061
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: win this game, one or two X factors. Let me see,

1062
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: let me see, let me see offensively speaking, okay, C J.

1063
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Anderson again, Yeah, CJ. Anderson actually doing the dirty work.

1064
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: And you know when when they're making a concerted effort

1065
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: to stop the run and it's obvious that the Rams

1066
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: are running the football right, yes, when you know it's

1067
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: just going to be an inside run drill like spring

1068
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: practice in college football. When they know you're gonna run

1069
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: and you're gonna run it, you still have to have success.

1070
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pinball off guys and take it

1071
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: to them. So let's see how many yards he actually

1072
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: picks up and obvious and obvious rundowns. Yeah, so I'll

1073
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: go with him as my X factor on that side

1074
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: of the football. On the defensive side, I'll go Marcus Peters. Okay, yeah,

1075
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: I'll go Marcus Peters. Um a flag free game by him,

1076
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, a non personal foul in fraction game by

1077
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, I bet you win. H yeah, okay, yeah.

1078
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: If if you have games where he's going nuts and

1079
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: giving them free fifteens, yeah you're done. You're done. So

1080
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: that's my X factor on that side. I would say

1081
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: it's turnovers and then capitalizing off of them. If the

1082
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Rams can get two takeaways and put both of those

1083
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: things in the box, you'll be in great shape, no doubt.

1084
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah, that that's what I would be

1085
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: looking for. Can I give you one more? Yeah? Absolutely,

1086
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: Zeroline m Z line off turf in a dome. Yeah,

1087
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: to win from deep could happened, Yeah, it could happen,

1088
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: yes sir. All right, well everybody, this one is going

1089
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: to be really, really, really exciting kickoff between Rams and

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00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Saints Strong Deodoran. The NFC title game is going to

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00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: be twelve noon on Fox twelve, New Pacific time. It

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00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: will be two o'clock local DeMarco and I will see

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: you from the sidelines at the Mercedes been Superdome for

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00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: Rams pregame live. Enjoy the game, everybody,