WEBVTT - Episode 166 w/ Kareem "Biggs" Burke 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.840 And it's Drink Chess, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.239 He's agree is your boy in O R. He's a 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:23.160 Miami hippoper pioneer. Up is d j e FN. Together 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.279 they drinking up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.880 the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.879 for drunk fast drink chess, motherfucking every day is New 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.480 Year's Z. Let's time for Drink Champs. Trick up? Mother? 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.839 Would it good? Be hoping? It's with a supers Your 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.159 boy in O R? What up is dj e F 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:56.520 and it's drink Champs. Yeah, y'all makes up now? He 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.120 offended like me. We we love to interview CEOs that 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.560 comes to our our guests right now. He's one of 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.200 the most remarkable CEOs. He's one of the people who 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.720 who held his ground. Are still there through this test 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.319 of time, still out here getting money, got new artists, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.560 new adventures, new movies, new endeavors, new clothing lines. This 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.319 motherfucker's still out here kicking ass. He looks like he's 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.520 motherfucking twenty four years old, you know what I'm saying. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.319 And motherfucking incredible hawk shape and all this type of 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:26.920 ship and if you don't know what I'm talking about, 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:34.160 my motherfucking homeboy big Burg. Now one of the one 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.560 of the things that struck me very earlier. You was involved, 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:43.400 you're involved with this movie O G. That's that's that's yeah, 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.600 that was incredible, right, Hold hold on, y'all. We're gonna 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:53.960 act like it's already out because by the times to 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.760 the movie O G came out. You know what I'm saying, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:01.480 HBO correct? Okay, okay, are so, so what was the 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.000 first one? O G? O G? And then it's a 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.640 hard truth, the hard truth? Okay, let's let's take what 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.960 O G. So. Um, obviously it's about a guy who 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.959 get locked up. Now this is this is your story 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.280 or no, no, it's not my story. So the script 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.320 was already done and it was most of it was 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.760 already shot before I came on board. So they wanted 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.359 me to executive produce it and to come on and 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.800 amplify the message of the movie because I speak to 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:27.600 that anyway about social justice, reform and UM and restoration process, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.640 the restorative process. Wow wow, so um so, so how 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.919 did that process happen? Like someone just reached out or Yeah, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.720 they reached out to me, and then once I've seen 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.240 a little bit of the movie, I was like, this 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.480 makes total same to cut the movie. Yeah, some of 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.440 it was shot. Yeah, but Jeffrey Wright being I would 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.280 say one of the best actors of our just to 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:53.360 do the play Malcolm X, People's people people that. Yeah, 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:58.600 he's on West World. Yeah, incredibly, People's Shaft, right, That's 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.399 what I knew anything James, A couple of James Bond 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:06.400 movies as well of Jesus okay and so so so. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.840 How so this movie that came to you, they asked 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.919 you to be a part of it. You read the 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.840 script and that's what convinces you. I've seen I've seen it. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.079 They had some shots, so I was actually able to 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.120 see some of the film. Okay, what's the next movie? 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.239 You said, Yeah, it's a Hard Truth. So it's a 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.880 part two to that. And we got the inmates actually 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.440 interviewing themselves. So the difference the reason why O G 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.639 is so special, other than the story and the actors. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.920 That's the only time movie has ever been shot in 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.760 the prison, and over a hundred fifty of the actors 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.120 are all inmates. So if we get best actor and 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.760 best supporting actor. The best supporting actor is gonna give me, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.160 which has never had. And they get paid as well. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.360 Yeah they got paid. Yeah, I mean it's a very 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.360 small feed, like when they get paid in prison. They 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.800 got paying. Jeffrey Wright took the same paid for his 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.600 for his role as well. He wanted to get paid 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:02.400 like the inmates. He's all was the call um better 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.600 the actor. It was tough because he's playing an inmate 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.960 alongside inmates. So he took it as a challenge to wow, 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.120 that's that's amazing. Now that's what the golden line. You 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.920 got the fourth come on sleep pop bottle. We got 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.159 the fourth for November. Fourth for November. Yeah, we launched 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.360 actually coming back out in November. Of the ones It's Cold, 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:38.640 come On, come on Together Here. I five different niggas 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:45.279 of different generations. They all said that Mr Lea, you're 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:50.400 in the movie. One thing is in the seventies sixties, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:58.760 everybody grew with Mr Lee Clear handball. So yeah, I'll 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.200 definitely play handball. I'm not called Loe to you. That 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:02.880 was the one thing guys I was I was like, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.480 good at jail, was like I was like, yeah, I'm sorry. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.320 I was the only thing, Like I was the only 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.600 black nigger that played basketball handball. Like you know, if 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:16.160 you play hairball, you got that, you play basketball, that's it. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.800 But I was the only dude that could play ball 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.440 because I was, like, fucking I'm black Hairporter Weekend. Speaking 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.080 of that, what do you think of when you hear 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.320 this twenty one savage thing? You know what I'm saying? 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.359 What the deportation? Deportation? Yeah, I mean, I don't know 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.479 much about it, but obviously I don't know if he 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.599 was born here or not, so I don't know the 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.040 legality of it. But I mean I'm all for him 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.960 staying here because because you your background a similar to that, right, 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.320 Like I'm actually standing in Puerto Weekend, Okay, but you're 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.599 from the US. Okay, I'm time of s Puerto Rico. Okay, cool, cool, damn. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.840 But that that that struck me kind of like um, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.599 kind of like hard because but what he so he 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.520 was actually born out the kind I believe he was. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.720 Suppose he outstayed his visa supposed me. Yeah, but I'm 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.279 using a feeling I think gainst him, which he had expunged. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.880 That is what I had read. I would have bet 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.560 two hundred thousand, like you just say a two hundred THO. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.240 He's from the UK on Atlanta, I would have bet 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.479 all on Atlanta. Yo, this guy he's ill. But yeah, 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.000 God blessed because Slick Rick went through the same thing. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.479 That's very truth. So he totally forgot about I remember 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.880 Slick Rick's wife when I was on radio, she was 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.560 doing a whole campaign. I forgot about that. Yeah, we 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.200 were able to figure that out. I don't know how 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.560 they figured out. Slick Ricker was the first hip hop 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.640 guy that got the port. Yeah, and French Montana just 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.560 worked your ship out like he's good. He's I think, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.120 you know, stopping were good and I messed up sound 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.039 French Montanna he just got his his his ship and 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.200 you think you think it's becoming harder because of Trump. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.440 I don't mean to get political, but I just we 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:44.960 had it was right. I mean it could be. Yeah, 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.919 he's got the he's at the forefront of that Trump. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.120 We need a pardon that right word. You know. You 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:54.920 know what I thought about Tom Kanye, we need a 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.280 part for you know, the same something I thought about that. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.440 I said, that's how Trump is gonna be hip hop accepted, 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.800 like he's gonna come and just release twenty one and 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:14.160 just like I'm just saying like I'm just saying, he 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:20.560 released him, big meach. You know, if he releases him 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:25.040 and Patty Mason, Nika's got nothing to say, man, let 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.760 me stop. No no no, that would be a reach though, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.720 that would be that, that would be I think that 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.360 prison reform, you know, with Meek is um a forming 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.320 with Jay How important is that? I mean big time. 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.800 I mean, we know what's happening, and all the people 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.480 of color that's suffering from that, is the communities that 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.520 suffering from that. So if you've got somebody, you know, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.680 like I said earlier, to amplify our message, and somebody 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.240 that looks like us, that's talking to the youth, talking 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.320 to the people that's in power, saying that something needs 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.160 to change, then it's you have a high higher chance 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.320 to get that mess and you cross. You know, you've 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.200 got j Robert Krass, the owner of seventy six is 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.239 Meek at the forefront of but it's really Meek sting. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:11.040 They're just supporting them. That's that's um Um. I'd like 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.080 to see that. I'd like to see the growth in 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.520 in the youth I'd like to see him hanging out 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.960 with Robert Kraft like that a lot. Meek has grown 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.280 a lot. Man made a matter of conversation other than 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.160 him telling that you know, he just made twenty million 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.840 or seven months. You know, you know what I'm telling 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.360 me about what what he's doing, Uh, you know for 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.720 the for the communities and stuff, because he went through that. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.840 You know, you don't want to go through an extenuating circumstance, 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.640 to go through some hardship to have to come and 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.920 do that. But you know you learn from that. I did, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.480 you know what I mean, I'm sure you did. 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But actually, let's talk about that, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.720 because that's when I actually got introduced to this uh 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.600 daily on the first time you drank it there, yeah, oh, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.240 get out of here. I thought you was far fun 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:56.280 about the surprise, it's smooth, it's nothing if that's not 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.560 to say it now because Puff actually sucked up the surprise. 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.360 Oh yeah, words because when I was with him the 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.920 night before, he was like, yo, what we're doing? Them? 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.640 Are we're gonna tell this to I was like, I 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:10.600 don't know. I surprise that. I'm like, He's like, come on. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.800 That was crazy because we used to have a meeting 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.320 before that. If he was it was like, you don't 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.600 get a drunk, so they weren't me. It didn't happen. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.200 I was like, I was like, I'm so glad because 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.960 I can't hold a surprise. But but this was the 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.760 most a luxurious This was the most illest dinner. Like 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.160 people really came out and show you love, Like like, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.600 how did that feel? Like? I mean it felt good man, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.679 especially everybody going around saying something good and stuff like that. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.959 You know, I don't really celebrate my birthday. Yeah, I 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.679 mean I celebrate, you know, my birthday. You know, you 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.480 feel like it's your birthday. You don't really want too much. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.600 But when somebody else as you could to celebrate. So 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.720 I just got used to that. We're gonna change that up. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:13:01.720 We're gonna start celebrating your mother. So you deserve it. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.360 God damn it. Now I learned when I was in Mexico. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:08.920 I'm going back to the dinner, but I learned when 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.480 I was in Mexico that real to kill a drinkers 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.480 drink it like that they sip to killer. Because I 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.480 used to always think to kill it was a setback 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.920 like a drink, shot drink if you pour in the 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.800 shot glass, but you can said, I mean anything, you 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.400 can sit or but you go straight to the best 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.000 when you do it as a shot, right, you go 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.160 straight to My birthday was it was? I was in 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.160 the shot mood and the next day you did a 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.959 straight to kill her too. What was that ship you 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:38.520 had at um the mallable place? Oh mescal me. Yeah, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.160 it's like it's like tequila. Yeah it's not. No, it's 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.400 not to kill us. And it's like the family, you know, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.920 but it's different, just like how this gin tequila mescal 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.959 it's its own category. So let me ask you, why 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.040 do you drink straight, strong fucking drinks like I guess 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:06.240 something this used to it. So getting back to that, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:11.760 to that, to that, to the dinner. It was so great, 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.360 you know what I mean a lot of people in 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.839 this industry. That's what drink champs about, dream champs about 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.840 giving people their flowers, you know why they alive and 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.640 and give it like, um, this was this was so dope. People. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.680 We were going outside and it was so crazy to 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.600 see like these these billionaire people without security, like the 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.920 security was going to with the Papa rosy like the 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.680 fun out up. But they were chilling like this ship 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.560 was this ship was dope and and and this is 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.520 your friends. You said, you told me something that was 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.320 very interesting on the phone, uh, like like last one 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.000 or something said, you know, this is the first time 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.840 you and Papa actually spoke so all these years spoke 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.600 about I spoke up actually last year, Grammy, the first 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.240 time we had a conversation. And they're both from Harland. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.840 What's going on? You know? What's crazy. I mean, it's 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.480 not like I've seen him around Hall. Yeah. We had 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.320 a conversation and then he had ca and back. It 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:01.840 was like, you know, me and Bigg has never spoken. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.600 And we exchanged numbers and he was like when he 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.200 when I come to l A, he was like, YO, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.360 make sure you holler at me. And I've seen him 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.320 at that at the Oscar party and I didn't call him. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.320 He was like, yeah, you thought I was drunk, but 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.960 you didn't call me, so you know, I mean, we 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.720 end up hooking up after that. We went to dinner 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.360 and went to his crib and stuff in his office 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.120 and ship. We had a good time. They had a 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.760 good relationship and you know now we're now we're friends. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.240 Got damn yeah, man, But I don't know if you know, man, 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.200 this it was like it was Kelly rolling right there, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.000 it's Beyonce. It was more people in the photo of 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:37.000 the photo by itself that wasn't even happening, That wasn't 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.800 like there were certain people that didn't. I thought it 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.960 was powerful by yourself. You know, that's something powerful and 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.360 and and how does it feel that to know that 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.960 and all actually wality if you really wanted to like 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.640 make something happen, Like with something the biggest, you can 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.000 actually do it like there's a lot of people. Yeah, 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:55.720 You're right, I never thought about it like that, But 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.880 I'm saying even after dinner, it was just good to 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:02.360 see everybody around together, Ship celebrating it was it was truthfully, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:03.800 it was a great It was a great thing, man, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.040 A right, that was. It was very much appreciated, especially 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:15.240 tend tend speech ten speeches definitely figures because I killed 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.600 you now one of the best stories I ever ever 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.720 one of my it's too He's got two of the 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.040 best stories of my life. One is when I'm the 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.680 recent one I told you where I've seen him went 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.640 to the jay Z concert and I just seen him 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.760 looking and at first he wasn't drinking. That's what Shawn 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:35.040 was there too, Yeah little okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, um, 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.160 and I've seen he wasn't drinking. And Jake came out 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.760 and he just hit me on my shoulder and I 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.400 was like, who man, you know, Biggs ain't aggressive like that, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.320 so big was hitting me man hard? Ship let me look. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.400 So I looked and he was just so happy seeing 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.360 jay Z walk out on stage and to me. That's 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.400 the definition of real friendship. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.760 I don't know any of y'all listen and then y'all 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.280 understand what the funk I just said. This man flew 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.200 to see his homeboy. You got to see his home 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.760 on stage. It was just so happy. You know, he's 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.160 getting the money over this, you know, the toy like that, 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.200 But the way he was so happy, it was like 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.920 you felt like you felt like like you was picking 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.880 up the bag right there. And I was like, yo, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.720 that was that was a beautiful moment for me. Like 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.240 just to see that there's people out here like that, 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:21.720 you know what I'm saying, because I know where we 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.520 came from and where we started from, you know what 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.480 I'm saying. And to see that it got this big, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.159 you know what I mean, to see him up there 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.960 and ship and killing I mean, you know, Jay, his 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.359 feet used to be planted in the middle of the stage. 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:33.600 This nigg is running up and down a hundred feet, 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.320 going up and down side by side and seeing that 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.960 alongside be you know what I'm saying, doing something incredible. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.320 It was. It was It was a touching moment, man. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.560 And to see how big not only that the company, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.240 everybody that came through us, the legacy, you know, it 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.600 was like everything that came together was right there as well. Definitely, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.320 like the bag isn't always money something I talked about 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.760 the relationship. It's not about the transaction. But I saw 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.720 it like so sinceris like like I never had seen 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.239 nothing like that in my life. Was just like sitting there. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.520 He was just so happy, and I was like, damn, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.480 I want I want my friends to be successful to 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:14.920 you know what I'm saying, ship, Yeah, you guys gotta 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:22.359 step in up. Another one of my favorite stories was 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.000 I remember I remember this is right before you got 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.280 into the trouble or whatever, weeks ago, and you would 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.840 watched every hour of Obvious in game and every game. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.280 Come on, I know, you go to the the biggest house. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.600 I hit him like, yo, I'm home. I'm like, all right, cool, 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.920 I'll come up with breaking saying. Gria and I swear 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.080 to going. We watched like at least nineteen our lives 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.119 and games together, and then one day we went to 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:53.440 the club. Obviously walked right by us, and it's gonna 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.200 say with something. Obviously he was like, and I don't 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:01.160 know if I like him as a person. He's so 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.760 much sense to me because just think about it, like, 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.960 of course you like a person, don't mean that that's 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.960 who they are in real life. So he had cut 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.960 that off from the beginning, like he was like, no, 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.080 I don't know, because you're you're absolutely the person that 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.879 you was like on television. Can does not have to 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:23.679 necessarily be that that person. But now you's cool. Yeah, yeah, goddamn, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:29.960 it makes some noise for that man. Come on, come on, now, 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.720 you already know we had we had some of the 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:39.080 most famous battles and drinking you guys. Yeah, yeah, you 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.840 gotta hear this. Oh he's just because like like he's 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.360 like cool, calm and collective, but he's a fucking animal, right, 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.600 He's a drink. He's a drink. Cham for sure. I 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.679 don't know if it's a battle, no, it's not a battle, 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.000 but in a mind he always secretly battle, I guess 0:19:52.080 --> 0:20:01.600 because always wins. Listen and London anywhere, I'm still staying 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.840 and drinking the last It's very true, it's very true. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.240 But in London it was. This is the most interesting 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:10.360 one was in London because um, that's when you guys 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.280 had armor there, correct, yeah, these guys had armadale and 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.040 by the way I promoted, Remember yeah, I didn't the 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:21.480 crime should have brought it, come on, but I'm not. 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.439 So I'm supposed to bring that. So where in uh 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.760 this this, this, this, this this this uh indoor indoor 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.879 pool in London. It's a house with the indoor pool. 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.359 So I'm should I've never seen before. But for some 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.520 reason they're like, yo, let's go, and we go. I'm 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.320 told about this is shot for shot to the very 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:48.399 last shot and then there was one last shot and 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.679 then Temple took and there's one last shot and then 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.119 Temple took it. And then he looked at me and 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:54.760 he said there's no more. I said there's no more, 0:20:54.920 --> 0:21:02.320 and he felt like open. He felt big hit me 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.119 like and I was like, yeah, I didn't do this 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.000 all the top of me while he doesn't do this 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:13.119 all the time. But I was like, yeah, man, do 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:19.639 you think, um, you think Rock and Peer would be immolated? Like? Um, 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.520 I mean it's tough right now to do something, to 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.560 build the build a business that big and to have 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.280 everything under it be successful the way it was. I 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.440 want to say that it can't happen, but it's gonna 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.919 be tough. It was just a different time in space. 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.040 And when you say you like you have the liquor, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:43.600 you had all the executives. So you think about Eve 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:49.760 pm who's at I C a emanual a Capital, shariatt 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.920 Interscope Latres at Universal all of the Atlantic. Now she's 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:57.840 a Capital's executive vice president. She just got bumped up. Goddamn. 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.359 I got so many employees, even everybody went off to 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.960 do great things. Even the family tree that was put 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.480 out right, I think, who was it that trying to 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.480 dispute it? But a lot of people didn't understand the 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.960 breakdown of the family tree. When id flex talking it 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:21.040 right now, I totally forgotten. So like, do you want 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.400 to explain that a little bit? Like, yeah, the family tree? 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.600 Because Forbes was doing an article on me and they 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.760 wanted to show a diagram of what we started and 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.680 how it was a snowball effect that created all these 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:38.399 other different either exacts, businesses, careers, you know. So we 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.639 had and it was hard because there was a lot 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.760 of people before us that could have been on that tree, 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:48.439 right Claude can't Kenny Burns, like these guys, Eric Gotti. 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.720 They didn't come from rocket Feller. They were pre Rocketfeller 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.199 that helped us build these companies that really couldn't fit 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.399 on it because I couldn't put them under that, you 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:57.680 know what I mean. So I just kind of put 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.359 what we did, what we started and from there. But 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.120 and even with that, because it was maybe the last 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.640 two days and it was last day, it was a deadline, 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:07.560 and I think I added a couple of more things 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.000 and I was just like that and put it out. 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:10.920 So with Flex when he was talking about that, I 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:12.880 didn't understand what he was saying, or maybe he didn't 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:17.000 understand what was going on. So kind I think he 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:22.199 exputed to be like exped easily. You see a lot 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.320 of people don't know how close people like if you 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.760 look at street is watching, I'm the only artist outside 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.000 of rocket Feller that was on the streets watching. You 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.119 look at the professional I'm on it. Uh So I 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.119 had a relationship. So a lot of people don't really 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.120 have the movie, say property movies I started, and one 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:42.480 of them I wasn't paid for. I was in um 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.960 that day with the other ship paper. So just then, 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:50.200 boy was like so a lot of people didn't understand 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.080 because I know when I spoke to Flex. He was like, 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.280 how can Rocket Feller saying? I was like, yo, Flex, 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.440 I was actually been down with him like ten years, 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.200 Like I mean a lot of people didn't know it, 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:02.920 but if you look at the album, yeah yeah, so 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.600 a lot of people. But I get reflectors coming from 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.000 But I just let him know, like listen that we 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.240 bring up me like, yeah, incorrect, you know what I'm saying, 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.760 but there's a lot of inconsistencies, but maybe he just 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:19.080 don't know the whole truthren right, right right. So with 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.320 that being said, you we we we You ever looked 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.399 at another record label, it was like you they remind 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.280 me of how we used to do it, Like is 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:30.000 this someone close to you guys? Or that really? I 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.840 mean because of I mean puff was he did. He 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:34.280 did a lot in the space that was like a 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:38.880 little bit before y'all right, yeah, not nothing after about 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:43.480 I'm like with U K and um yeah yeah, Q 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:50.240 and UH and coach K is doing over there titely 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.160 T Yeah, I totally forgot about that. Yeah they're rocking 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.720 over there too, so yeah t D and UH coach 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:03.440 coaching P they're killing them right even um um Hybridge. 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:08.600 Oh yeah, I'm Q P and M. They're killing it 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:13.240 to Yeah, and you imagine I'm heavy your opinion. It's 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.639 been a whole bunch of this talk going on in 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:20.320 the industry, um and the world. That's frequently used as 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:24.639 coach of voting. Yeah, what what do you? What do you? 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.880 What do your stance on a vo I never really 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.719 thought about I hear the word throwing around a lot, 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.720 but I never really gave a thought or what it 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.919 meant or this and that. Truthfully, you know what I mean, 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:38.160 there's so many people would have different definitions for it. Um. 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.440 I mean, I don't really look at it or say 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.760 this person is a part of stealing the culture or 0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:45.520 doing this to the culture, this and that. To me 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.119 the coach, it's a match culture right now. So for 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.760 in order for rap or hip hop to grow and 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.640 had to grow outside of it's a media base, right 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.840 and for it to get that big, it's not all inclusive, right, 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:02.000 there's skating, basketball, this sock like everybody listens to the music. 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.520 That's why it grew so big. So to me, it's 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.200 just mashed culture right now. So if somebody's taking advantage, 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.320 I don't think it's a color thing. It could be 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.280 a black person or white person, if that's the case, 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.280 to say, if they're a culture vote or not, Yeah, 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:14.760 that's true. What do you what do you think about 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.640 that word? I mean, I agree with what he's saying. 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.240 I think it's just complicated, like it's just who determines 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:24.399 who is the culture vulture, right, because I mean you 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.000 have to go into that person's history where they come from. 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.920 You don't know what their life entails that that makes 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.600 them a part of the culture or not. Right, that's true. 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.440 I mean, it's true what you're thinking. I have no 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.040 idea to tell the truth, because, um, if a person 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:44.080 comes from outside of our culture quote unquote, and and 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.399 it's just as dedicated as me, then I gotta i 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.920 gotta show him some love, like as a person kind 0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.359 of made me. You know. I don't want to say 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.480 because I don't want to like selfish myself out and 0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.840 say like, well, if a person made me a certain 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.760 amount of money or put me in a position, then 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.520 you know, how could they be a coachable I just don't. 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.520 I don't. I don't really get it. I don't really know, 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.119 you know what I mean? So, um, I try to, 0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.160 but I'm trying to be enlightened, like to even maybe 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:12.000 maybe people have differentiating business and culture and that's where 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.880 it gets money. Because if that's the case, you could 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:16.960 you could be from you could be from Gagade Thrown 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:18.440 when they're coming and doing a hip hop and that's 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.000 the city, you know, being a culture more right, You 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.680 know what I'm saying from different whole different cultures. I'm 0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.040 saying people could do dirty business moves that might be 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.440 smart business moves but might hurt this individual that persons 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.840 like you're a culture vulture, right, but you could be 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.600 just straight up the culture. It's not about business. You're 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.600 not involved in the industry side of things. And you 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:39.239 know that's that's the where it gets a little bit 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.000 of confusing, Right. What do you feel like when because 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.760 you knew early Kan yet you don't know? I don't 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.480 know if you do, but I haven't seen you around 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.359 crazy can yet like that too much? But I don't 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:52.800 mean to call them crazy like that, but you know 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.800 what I mean, Like, you know Magna Kanye, Um, what 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.399 do you feel about Magna Kanye? Because I mean, you 0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.359 knew the South side of Chicago, Kanye, You I don't know. 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.440 It just seems like a lot of confusion. So I 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.720 mean he admitted to having a problem, right, so he 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.639 sees you, Yeah, he's bipolar and things like that. I mean, 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.760 I don't agree with a lot of stuff that he's saying. 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.960 All he's been doing um in the public with Trump 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.000 and things like that, but I don't know what's reasoning 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:18.760 for it. Like you said, I didn't have a conversation. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.840 Last time I've seen him was in Paris and at 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.600 Virgils at the Louis Vuitton show. So I've seen him 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.159 and gave him hug, told him I loved him. He 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.359 turned around and said I love you too. So I 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.000 just like, look, I'm proud of you, man, I'm proud 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:31.439 of all of this. You know, look what we did 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.800 and how it trickled down to even what Virgil is doing. 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:35.920 And that was it. That was that, you know, the 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.479 end of the conversations. You ever saw that, you ever 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.520 saw that he would be in like this type of 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.840 weird position where the hood love him, like we're gonna 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.640 still buying sneakers, but we're like kind of like confused 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.080 on how to support somebody who supports Yeah, I think 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.280 a lot of people are confused, you know what I'm saying, 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:56.000 because he's putting out different messages, so until it's something 0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:00.240 that's clear cut, it's gonna stay like that. What would 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.240 you take on the super Bowl? Because I mean I 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.200 wanted to. I wanted to Watchestery tell you the truth 0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.800 and it was I'm not mad that that New England one. 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.320 You know, it's good to see history, to be a partner. 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.120 You know what I meant by that was like the 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:16.200 entertainment part because I don't like it. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:21.800 you don't like you? Who's the Adam Yeah yeah rox song? 0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.560 Though I saw that, I was like, alright, col and 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:28.360 the double change. I didn't check people that chokers? He 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.800 is that a culture? Big boy, big boy? That was? 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.800 That was okay, big boy Cuddy Brown. I wished we 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.040 would to see more of that, like to give big 0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:44.040 boy that whatever man he should have might be Travis 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.160 Scott have a minute clip you know what you're missing? 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.320 And I've got more time than that? Was it last 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.480 year the year before? I would I wanted to see 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.400 more of that. And you don't get paid for the 0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.680 super Bowl. I just found that. I didn't know that 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:56.880 now you don't. You don't get paid for the super Bowl. 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.160 They'll take care of you, no idea. Yeah, no, I'll 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.640 take care. NFL won't pay it. Yeah, if I don't 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.920 play Pepsi probably no, no, no, you don't get paid 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:11.720 for the actually halftime show. Yeah, you know you get 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.680 one more. Yeah. Yeah, it's mostly don't check this and 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.480 we can't come back. Yeah. I mean listen, now, don't 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.320 get me wrong. You say Pepsi. That might be, but 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.640 it's not from the super Bowl. It's not because owns 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.680 a half time Yeah, but it's not paid. Yeah, I 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.200 don't think so. I don't think. I think they take 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:29.880 care and travel your head, the stage tribes, your tour bus. 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.400 But you're giving you and then they they're giving you 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.560 a look, so they feel like, I mean, that's what essentially, 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.480 that's what That's what I heard. That's what Jane turned 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.040 it down was because I definitely not one. He didn't 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.640 want to do it because of Kaepernick and Jay don't 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.040 do nothing for money like that. Like, if he wants 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.520 to do it, he'll do it if you didn't paid 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.480 for him. And that's but I've seen him turn on 0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.400 a lot of ship for some big amounts. That's great. 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.800 Do you ever think you ever think Jay would be 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.800 at this level because now again you started for the 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:02.120 bottom bottom bottle. Boy. No, I didn't think it would 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:06.240 last this long. That's honest. That's like a motherfucker. You know. 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:11.200 We would have a good run. Yeah, at the time 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:16.240 that the average lifespan of five years three albums back, 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:17.880 so it was three you know what I mean if 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.360 you come last that long, Remember, artists would get one single. 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:23.840 She wouldn't even get to your next single and you 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:25.720 out of it. But in the last when we talked 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.080 to you before, didn't you say you were the one 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:31.680 that didn't believe him Originally? Yeah, originally don't Yeah, I didn't. Um, 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:35.080 I didn't particularly like Jay's music. It was after the 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.959 battle with DMX, but yeah, I would. I didn't want 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.240 have thought that he would have lasted twenty something years 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:45.000 and still be this relevant today versus like what's free? Yeah, 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:53.640 that's great shot, Tom. Mostly it's about to get crazy. Yeah, man, 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:59.400 so don't let me getting you guys have jam Right, 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:05.920 you guys are all three partners. What was the moment 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.760 where he was like, wow, this is because it's because 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.600 everything was based on Jay at first as an artist, right, 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.160 and it's equal partnership sorry. It was equal partnerships with 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:19.360 with the artists, you and Dame, with just Zing being 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.800 he's the artist in equal partners What was the moment 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.000 where he was like, you know what, this as an 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.640 entity is going to work? Reasonable? That reasonable? That the 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.480 first one? Yeah, I mean, you know we're listening to 0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.160 the music. You know, is when you hit the album 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.240 before anybody else said it hasn't hit the word, the 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.400 world hasn't heard it. But you know you're sitting on 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.800 this classic. You know what I'm saying, So you just 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.440 can't wait till this ship get out. You know what 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:48.920 I'm saying. The artists you've meant originally the sound the 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.840 original yeah originally yeah, but we're just friends. But I'm 0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.800 saying that to make that album from that artist to 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.840 he has some songs already, so like coming to Age 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.680 was one of the up older songs on the album. 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:06.720 That and uh we got the ones that like three 0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.200 songs that clocked it. All the clock songs were old, 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.960 old songs, I think, And I think he mentioned this, 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.640 why they sho feel like that? My fellow like what then, 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:26.840 oh yeah, that makes sense? Ship your car learning So 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:33.520 I actually had this on the riding that blessed it up. 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.080 I don't know why I can't use the go to 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.360 so far, I can't get used to it. I like 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:43.920 talking about it's a dangerous drinking brother, he said that, man, 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.480 you know who else is it? Like? It's a very 0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:54.840 dangerous faith really, Oh she's she was. She was trying 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:56.800 to drink us on the table. I'm talking my she 0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.280 that recently. Yeah, I'm telling my new cameras are round. 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.160 She just just drinking and drink. I'm like, yo, come on, 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.000 she was drinking. She's she's vocals like that, Like I 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.840 can't lay. Vocals is drunk. That ship is real. So 0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:16.000 so um, you come home from jail, people don't even 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:20.120 like hear hear from you for like six or eight months, 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.759 no one really hears from you. People hearing you all. 0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:31.319 No one one sees you. You come out and you hit, 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.320 you hit the scene everyone. Because I gotta reiterate this. 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.800 I know I touched on a little bit before, but 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:43.000 the word was Dame dash Uh. When you was away, 0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.000 Dame dash was going on radio stations. He's promoting. He 0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.440 was like, niggas ain't writing bigs and niggas ain't seeing bigs. 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.160 You ever, you ever got the word that that that 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.200 you felt like that, yeah, I mean him spoke about it, 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:57.680 and I was like, I told him, I said, look, 0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.840 I don't feel that way. So you telling the public 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.440 that seems like it's coming from me, you know what 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.080 I mean. So we had a conversation. I was like, 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:06.920 I don't want people to think that because if I 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.279 signed somebody, I don't sign them, and saying, look, if 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.000 I ever go to jail, I need you to be 0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:12.840 there for me. It's a business move, you know what 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.040 I'm saying. So nobody owed me anything. We paid somebody 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.719 to make an album and I was it right, So 0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:23.440 nobody owes me anything. No, no, no, it's real. But 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:25.800 that was the That was the So what was the 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.239 first reaction to when people see you coming back in 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.680 the business? People see the first time was when I 0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:35.320 had a fourth November because because people don't really know 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.960 who you would, I don't know if you would like Dann, 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.680 I don't know you jail, I don't know, but it's 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.239 not I don't think it's a good thing. Those are 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:47.120 both my brothers. What beautiful. So from then to now, 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.960 those are both my brothers. Whether they do something, I 0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:52.120 don't agree with them. Sometimes I don't agree with my family, right, 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.160 so still family. We built something together and we created 0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.360 history together. Nobody could take that away from us. So 0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.239 if somebody's doing something that I don't, I don't need Rew, 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.920 I probably just not. I won't be around at that 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.080 that bad energy, but it doesn't take away to love 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.160 and what we built and started to get. Goddamn, that 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:16.560 was so smooth under it. That's a real nigga ship man. 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:22.239 That's some real negga ship this in this day of 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.680 click bait. But before you go there, I think you're 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.719 talking about the cloning line still first, Okay, yes, I 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.080 want to what the inspiration behind the closing November? Yes, yeah, 0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.960 well that was in existence already and I spoke to 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.840 somebody who was doing it and I just came and 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.839 financed it and became a partner. So since then, um, 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.800 I acquired the whole thing and then I have new partners. Now, okay, 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.200 so you're dropping as a whole new season. Yeah in November. 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.279 But back to what you're saying. When people first seen 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.240 it was that and then it was at the Kanye 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.560 um That's Square Garden. That was the first time I've 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.720 seen Jay Kanye and um, yeah, a lot of people. Actually, 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.239 how was that? It was funny because people always said, 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:04.480 you know what's gonna happen when you see and I 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.600 said where everybody had probably laugh And that's what happened. 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.600 We all just started laughing before we said the work. 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.160 So we just laugh gave each other hugs and stuff. 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:12.400 You know. We talked for a bit and then we 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.000 end up listening to Kanye's music and then I've seen 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.000 them coming out and he actually was like, yeah, I 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:18.520 want to support you on the clothing line. I heard 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.480 what you was doing, so he must have been paying attention. Yeah, Kanye, 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.280 And then under how all Redo ninety six? Yeah, Redo, 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.719 which was Rock ninety six, So that's a yeah, No, 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:30.640 it was Rock ninety six. I just changed the redo. 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.799 But that's a luxury line and I use it as 0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.399 a special design unit just to collaborate on the luxury level. 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.240 And you gotta like Barnies and stuff like that. Yeah, Barnies. 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:42.120 It was in Luispia, Roman Italy and also revolved. So 0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.040 how how dope was it? Because I remember that pop 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.839 up the first Although you said you see each other 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.239 in the image, g I don't think you have two 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.080 pictures correct, Me and Kane know the pictures that came 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.200 out like jail no, no, no, I didn't take any 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.239 pictures like the first picture we ever saw. It was 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.080 at the Problem to pop Up in l A. So 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.480 how did that feel like? You know, like him just 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.480 coming out of support because you know he didn't have to, 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.440 you know, not, you're right. And then he hit me 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.600 and he was like, Yo, I'm in Mexico or something, 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.080 but I'm flying in to come to the you know, 0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:10.920 in the pop up. So he flew in, came and 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.520 then we I don't know, it seemed like a hundred 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.960 bottles we popped used to spade and then we just 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.759 had a good time, you know, just laughing and push. 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.880 It was there, jest ski you know what I mean, 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:21.400 a lot of family hip hop. You know, I mean 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.320 to see everybody together. But that's what I wanted to do, 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.400 you know what I'm saying, to bring that that that 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.920 old family atmosphere back taking the whole. This is me 0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.120 just not knowing the Rockefeller symbolism. Is that the same 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.320 thing you're talking about? To pop up? Yeah? You know 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:40.200 what in the so Rock ninety six was about that 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.960 because we were celebrating the twenty years. But it doesn't 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.440 It's not going to be just about that aesthetic. So 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.000 I have reasonable doubt that's more of a merch line 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.279 s Street where that speaks to more about what we 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.680 created in the beginning and on our business tip. Does 0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.920 that ever cause any friction with anybody that was partners 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.520 with you at that time? Or is that freeing three 0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:01.000 for you to do what you Everybody could do whatever 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.239 they want, like any of your partners, because you guys 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.360 were all eager partners. Okay, because in Armadale, you you 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:08.680 is it true you came up with the mix or 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.120 something like that, came up with the name, uh, the 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:17.919 deal and uh and also the um yeah, the liquid. Yeah, 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.919 so I picked that out. But you weren't a part 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:26.560 of rocket Ware everything. Oh yeah, so rocket where I 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:28.520 used that. That was a marketing arm. So I just 0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:32.160 did it all across marketing with the music and in 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.560 the company. What do you mean? It was a marketing arm, 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.280 but we cross marketed everything. If you remember all the companies, 0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:40.040 we had a sea because I worked the labels side, 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.400 and I had to work all those brands exactly right. 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.960 So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask this question because the 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:50.520 fans would kill me if not. And everyone always is 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.520 curious of this strong brotherhood. You know, you got you 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.040 Um who have your own crew, came in with your 0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:58.920 own crew. We got Dame who has his own crew, 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.960 came in his own crew, and got Jay as zwn 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.160 crew came on his own crew, and this big conglomerate. 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:09.040 Everybody always they speculate what was the breakup or what 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.320 like what was the actual thing? Like like if you 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.560 look at these blogs, they always say, well this is 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.360 like you know, Star say this, and these people say this, 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.239 and then Inquirer say this, and the thing about it. 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.480 When we did that Dale in ninety seven, the company 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.280 was always gonna be sold, so people think it's a breakup, 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:30.880 but it was being sold anyway. Yeah, so just like 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.080 they had a formula put in, they knew they were selling. 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.160 The only reason they extended because we were selling so 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.880 many records, So we was actually pushing the number that 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.400 Death Jam was going to get up because we were 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.879 selling so many records at the time with Rockefeller. But yeah, 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.640 we knew in ninety seven we were selling in two 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.760 thousand two. The only thing is we did an extension 0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.160 for three more years. So that's why I went from 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.239 two thousand to to two thousand five. And I think 0:40:54.840 --> 0:41:00.480 with Ormkanto and yeah before yeah, so that was the 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.480 tail and of it. The dale was up, so you know, 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.080 so that's why Jay death Jam and then we saw 0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.400 the d d MG. He wasn't rocket filling anymore. He 0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:10.719 wasn't you know. Everybody just went in there their own thing. 0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:15.120 But the theory is that it was Leo Colms, right. 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.040 I think I think Leo gets that unfairly. But that's 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.759 just me looking from the outside in. Um, that's that's 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.400 the theory. The theory is Leo Combs did something to 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.520 break you guys up. That's one of the theories. It's 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.560 fifteen million theories. By the way. Yeah, I got I got, 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:38.279 I got, I gotta hit. I think I think I 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:44.520 heard in the movie. Made it confusing too, definitely too. 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.600 When it came out, we actually had a meeting. He 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.320 was like, YEO, where's this stuff coming from? Because it 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.239 was actually on the news saying that we were breaking up. 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:53.960 So Jay Caleb, it just like yo, y'all saying. We're 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.239 like yo, now you're saying it. So we're laughing with 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.800 each other because at the same time we're making the movie, 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.680 but none of us has going where it came from. Okay, 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:03.600 I mean, so people don't know about those meetings and 0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.040 we're laughing about it, you know. So it's a bunch 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.640 of theories. So you're saying that Leo cons couldn't have 0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.920 been there. I'm not saying that he could have couldn't 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.120 have if I'm just saying that it wasn't the reason 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.800 why Rocket feller this first because we sold the company 0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:19.960 in two thousand and five. And then there's another crazy 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:25.560 rumor right that when Cameron became the pres this is 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.640 this is like this is one of the like the 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:32.080 illest ones because well he never became the president. Whoa 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.239 dame said that he wanted to the Camax with a 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.360 certain amount of money that he never got and he 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.840 turned it down. So I'm supposed to be king. We 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.759 didn't have Twitter back then, so it was supposed to 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:48.120 be Yeah, I heard that story from you guys. I've 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.640 never heard that in public. I heard that like I 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.560 heard days say that, and I heard you say that. 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.000 I never heard it in public, though, but you did, 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.560 you did? You did that That had people salty, like 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.640 even like like state property or something like that. You 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.279 want to say that because Beans was about to be 0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:06.560 the president to the president of his Yeah, it was 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.680 gonna be too co presidents that would that would have 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.600 been that would have been crazy. And this is after 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:20.440 you guys sold it already or not? Okay, right Jesus man, 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:22.839 that's you got. You got a rich history. Man. I'm 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.200 might take a fucking shot of killer. We don't gotta 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.720 don't want to take the ball. You're taking shot Columbian 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.719 white if you want, I take a shot Columbia White. Man. 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:39.000 I'm not really ship No, but what is it? Though? 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.320 It's the process before rum It's not what he's like? 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:49.440 What then? Is that true? This is what Columbia's They 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:54.680 snip cocaine and then they drink this because the Columbia coach, 0:43:55.719 --> 0:44:00.560 I'm drunk, become wrong the king. This is like you 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:07.800 know the filter. Look, this is taking you noticed? This 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.400 is not good. Yo. I don't know if you're no Biggs. 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.719 But we celebrate all We celebrate all people. We celebrate 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:26.040 all champions are CEOs. A little out of this is 0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:30.080 not good. That was not good. It tastes like licorice. Hey, 0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.080 don't talk about about my living man. How you know, 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:36.239 how do you know what talking about? You're talking about 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:46.239 the time phone party as crazy and so so right 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:51.760 now Hallam is being like gentrified crazy, like you literally 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:56.759 can you know go outside and there's someone jogging? Why 0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.480 you know, it's definitely different, Like how does how does 0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:04.120 that feel? I mean, you want to neighborhood to be better, 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:05.759 but at the same time, you want the people from 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.080 the community to have some ownership, which isn't happening. So 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.040 I think that's the mishap. A lot of times these 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.120 communities get gentrified, but no one is saying, you know, 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:15.960 this is what you can do to build a business, 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:17.600 to own a business, or to do something to be 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.400 a part of this long term, or to try to 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.800 bodies units once they start turning into co ops and condos. 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.560 So that education process need to be there because that's 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:30.520 what gentrification is, what driving the process of right good 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.360 if there's some ownership, yeah, because right now they're right now, 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:36.440 right now, little Haiti, they're going through the same thing. 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.480 They taking a little Haiti and they're taking baby Porter 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.319 we go, Baby Porter, we go? What was baby? That's 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.680 what saying back in the day Port reach we are 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:47.520 right now a little Haiti when which is that's where 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.160 we used to go to all the Zoo nation jams 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:55.600 and that you couldn't that ship is uh village when wood? 0:45:55.760 --> 0:46:00.640 When Wood? When village? They tearing that ship to the 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.200 but it should be baby poarter a week og. It's 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.600 like Bertha commented, uhould have a birth of comment date, Paul, 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.759 I think they still got that the part, but it's 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.960 not what the flag, it's not there. They got a part. 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:12.880 We get restaurant though, let me big party. We gat 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:16.799 restaurant if I see that one restaurants so we only 0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.320 the only Spanish restaurant. You go that like it was 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:28.959 in Malibuok, I'm gonna tell you the South game little. 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:31.560 When I'm in l A, I eat white, I don't eat. 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:35.080 I don't eat on the ground. I said, I'm not 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:43.120 going only Yeah, I'm not gonna like what are you like? So? Yeah? Everything, yes, 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.840 but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. You know, 0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:47.839 I'm kind of mad at the people who first brought 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.640 me to l A because I felt like I've missed 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:52.839 like eighteen years in my life. You know, I've been 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.440 going to l A for twenty years, like out of 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.480 seventeen years, this is the only year. Like last year, 0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:00.480 I went to Malibu and I was like, always been 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:05.239 this ship from the young day and now I'm there 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.920 all the time. I love Valiable. Big up to the 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.719 fires and all that that happened. Man, everybody not big 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.880 up to that. We don't want to pick up fires. 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:20.879 That's fighters, fire fighters. You know, it's crazy. Daego was here, 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.720 it was it was Impaliable. There was some ship happening 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.839 with the lights and he was like, yo, we kind 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:29.239 of like predicted these fucking fires, but moving on and 0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:34.480 you and Diego predicted the fires. Yeah, we kept seeing 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.520 it was something on the lights, like when it rains, 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.040 like you thought it would catch fire. Yeah, Like well 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.520 like I can't. And you know the crazy about Valiable 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.879 they don't sell plastic, so they don't sell like well 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:48.560 they aren't blaming the power company. Yeah, at least I've 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:52.560 seen it, Like that's that's the old holy ship. I seen. 0:47:52.640 --> 0:48:01.040 Did it? He did it? So, So what's your favorite, 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:06.680 uh if favorite moments in hip hop right now? Right now? 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.640 I don't know if I have a favorite moment right now, 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.040 but the most exciting thing for me right now I 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.160 was working with St. John. You know what I mean 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:25.160 to be honna bring but that's dope. I see you 0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.799 passionate about that, though not seriously because you know it's 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.360 in fifteen years before, you know, since I did anything 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.000 in music, And the last two albums I did was 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.120 Kanye first two albums, right, so college drop out, late registration. 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.080 So to step out the game for that was his 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.600 first two yeah wow, So to step out the game. 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.239 All this time, I said I would never ever be 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.680 in music business again, and people ask me over and 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.960 over you know what I'm saying, and managed to do 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.960 this come being hard to CEO running this, I wasn't interested, 0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.239 but something that I was passionate just kind of drew 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.759 me back in and the music, the artistry, and then 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.400 building a relationship with him and showed me something different. 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.600 And now seeing how good he really is, I'm like, 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.240 the creative process is what I enjoyed more than anything, 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.239 you know what I mean, being in the student and 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.800 being a studio all day. So I love to be 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:18.279 in the studio forere produce a pulling up a track, 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:20.920 seeing the head movement, seeing the person come up with 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.080 the words going and actually create the music and then 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.120 you know, especially when they hit records to see that 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.800 from scratch. That's one of the most memorable times that 0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.480 you even went to Hot Night the seventh Way. Yeah, 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:34.080 like I heard recently, I went to seven to Like 0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:35.880 that's that's deep. Like you know what I'm saying, Like 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:39.000 you know you Yeah, I'm back all the way back. 0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:41.520 That's hard. That's hard. I mean I don't do nothing 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.279 half way. If I do something, I'm all in. That's 0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:45.080 that's why I take my time with ship. You know, 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:53.160 that's all just a blunt half. Its like you want 0:49:53.360 --> 0:50:00.200 roaster or no. Okay, okay. Do you remember when he 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.040 was on the other probation. You used to use me 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.080 as a guinea pick. He used to be like, y'll 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.480 Nori come over all right, and used to put like 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:12.759 fucking a pound of weed and tin cookies like this 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.560 doesn't match up. This thing you can't put you can't 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:20.879 meet tin cookies. What are you doing? He makes ten 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:24.759 big cookies like this guy. One time we drove home 0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:26.440 from this I was a sweater guard. I was doing 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:31.120 twenty miles like this. People good, Like I can't go 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:35.160 no further. This is it word but but you know, um, 0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:42.880 so so life moves on. You come home, Ah, you 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:46.360 start the colthen line things happened. Then you get to 0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.759 see that your two brothers ain't talking right, You get 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:51.359 to see that one is on one side and one 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:55.719 is on the other side. Yeah, like one what is? 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:58.759 What is? What is? What's the first thing you think 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.080 of when that happens. I mean I didn't think anything. 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.720 The last thing I've seen was them together at Shaka 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:09.560 Shaka birthday. Yeah, and then after that, d no Shaka 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:13.799 that you start chacka pillar. So I didn't see them 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:17.320 after that. Yeah, there was a Jay show with Kevin 0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.320 Hart and everybody, so Jay Dame took his daughter to 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.600 the show, so they weren't speaking. It just wasn't hanging together, 0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:27.520 just like I mean, we all speak, but it just 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:29.640 happens that now, you know. I mean, I spent a 0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.160 lot of time in l A. I see Jay Moore, 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:33.520 you know what I mean, because I'm with Ti time 0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:35.200 a lot. I'm with Emory all the time, you know 0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:38.320 what I mean? Yes, so that all allows you know, 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:42.520 that time allows us to spend time together. But I've 0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:47.360 seen Dame another day too, Yeah, at h at a 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.399 dinner friend, I had a birthday don Okay, so I said, 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.360 everybody wearing it? So how about how about every because 0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.520 every for the most part, um when Jay first came out, 0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.239 we don't even heard of him through song. Yeah, like 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.320 a lot of people didn't like it was crazy because 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.239 as much as I know all of y'all, me and 0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.200 every had just really met each other. He's like, yo, 0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:10.200 then we just met each other. Like how how dope 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.080 was that for you to come home and see that 0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.560 he had a position and pulling one and he was 0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.160 doing when Emory came home, I was here, so I 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.520 actually picked Emery. Uh, get the funk out? I thought. 0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.680 I thought, no, no, I picked em up. I would 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:25.040 actually take him to work every day. I didn't know that. 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.439 I thought he came home. Then you came home. Yeah, 0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:34.279 he came home. I went in years later, Okay. So 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:35.880 he was like, I only want you to pick me up. 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:37.320 You know what I'm saying. When and you know, we 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.080 spend time. But Emery, people don't know, it's a real 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.680 entricate part of Rocket Feller. He's there from the genesis. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.759 So Emery Dna is just as much Rocket fell as 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.160 anybody else. You know what I'm saying, the same way 0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.800 Thai Tai, same way, be high, the same way bleak. 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:56.839 You know what I'm saying. Clark Ken and everybody else 0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:59.719 that helped us get to that point. But Emery. You know, 0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.400 so what was the story that made Emery famous? What 0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.480 was it? He was in Vegas and he when he 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.160 got his name Vegas. Yeah, when he was at the 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:11.640 crap tables, at the one that starts to g good. 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.200 So yeah, we was out there. Well there's a couple 0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:15.840 of things, I mean from even in my lifetime. We 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:17.680 shot the video and we brought the whole island out 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:20.640 of Champagne. So he yeah, he brought We can't just 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:28.560 see that he just please remember that story. But when 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:30.359 we went to London that day, we brought the whole 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:35.160 hotel out of chicken and wine at a little thing 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.960 like that. But he brought the whole island of the 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:40.960 champion of that. And then in Vegas, you know, he 0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.520 went off and was at the gambling table and then 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.400 went and brought a bunch of bottles and stuff and 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.000 then made this little area all v I P. So 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.200 nobody knew who he was. We got to fight sitting 0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.120 in front of Dr Dre. This is before we had 0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:55.560 any music out, so you know, we did, and the 0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.000 security started asking you can We looked them, man, we 0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:00.680 lived them and he's all NBA players and ship. We're like, yeah, yeah, 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:05.000 he's good. He good. Nobody knows that we bought some 0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.600 much champagne. They thought we were somebody. But that was 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.560 all Emery and and and Emory on top of that 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.399 is the one who created all the lifestyle at rock Nation. 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.600 So you see the paper plane hats, that's Emery. Anything 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:18.560 with Puma, that's Emery. You know what I mean, all 0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.919 those collaborations Rihanna, Big Sean, Miekmill, all that stuff goes 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.759 to Emery. He's the one that's at the forefront of that. 0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:26.719 And and you know you gotta kind of pass through 0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:30.000 that bridge. How pro how proudly would you see that? 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.680 I mean, I love to ask my brother every time 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:36.200 that he wins, I win and vice versa. Goddamn it, 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:44.040 goddamn makes him look take a shot of wine because 0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.080 I'm not can't do that again. You're gonna do it. 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:51.160 Let I go, rock I go. You will go to 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.040 killer a little shot. I just got have some of this. 0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:55.680 I got straight to kill it. Don't do a shot 0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:57.279 you're gonna do a shot. You wanna do a shot. 0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:58.920 You wanna do a shot. Man, it's for your birthday, 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:02.120 My birthday, the birth Take a shot. Everybody take a shot. 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:08.200 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. The Pons 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.600 shot the Burros and sequel all all right, come here 0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:15.040 and here, guys on the first time we see twenty 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.120 people take shots of the first time on drink chats. 0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.120 Everybody's gonna take a shot. Well, pump this ship when 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:25.920 it came on? Is that dollar that's real? Pia Pia 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:29.759 Colora Surrock. I'm asking you, brother, you don't know. You 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:34.600 didn't charge you that you pick it up? Jesus? Is 0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:37.520 this something? What's wrong the white? Is this something in there? Oh? Yeah, 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:39.840 all right, cool, that's what I meant. Yeah, I want something, Colada. 0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.920 Can you take a shot of that? Yeah? Something everything? 0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:46.080 That's like? Now the ful baby? So you want to 0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:48.880 take a bringing me bringing st John? Yeah, get everybody there, 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.160 shot at me. Start the next segment, like a right, 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:54.320 why are you bringing to look it in the bathroom. 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:59.839 I'm not I'm not comfortable with that stick point your ship. 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:12.759 Damn man, I caught that one. He ain't change ain't change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:19.120 he broke the bottle. God, this is like I don't 0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:39.000 know eight or something, Yo, yo, give it, give him 0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:43.520 that raspberry though your white family. She dropped me off. 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:47.239 She would friend. She was back, if I tell her 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:50.520 somebody's bad, you guys. Wait, he's like talking to her 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:51.680 now like all the time. They'm like you know what 0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:54.359 I mean? Oh yeah, what's the what's the white girl 0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:58.759 and the white girl? Um? Kylie? Yeah, yeah, she came 0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:01.719 about her like yeah, we're just waning already had drinks, 0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:05.360 so I was like, yeah, She's like they put me 0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.880 onto the Christian Dio cafe. I didn't even know that. 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.320 They like you go shopping and you go stairs, you 0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:13.480 get coffee, and there's like some flock it out. Kylie, 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:20.240 yeah yesterday when you're going, you're not coming out this week, 0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:24.760 Like no, no, no, I'm gonna miss that one. You're 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:28.080 not gonna I'm gonna do that. Yeah, because I got 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:31.640 ship out, um, and I got a couple of more things. 0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:35.600 But then after that, after all star going, I'm trying 0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:37.840 to get a month to month and yeah, building okay, 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.160 all right, I was gonna do the one better because 0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:42.360 I wanted to do the two duplex. But I was 0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:46.880 just like the one. Yeah, it's just it's just us 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.840 for them. Yeah not but that. No, man, I'm gonna 0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.040 ford to killing Yeah, put a poor shot to Yeah 0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:55.479 he Tracy with a drinking to kill it. That's hard. 0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.919 That is hard. What is this is something? Colado? Yeah, 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.600 it's up my speed? Did you watch the glasshold on? 0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:12.920 It's okay? Sorry, sorry, we do it, y'all. I don't problem. Yeah, 0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:16.160 can we forget? Everybody be out there say the Grammy. 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:19.840 I'm gonna skip that one like I skipped super Ball. 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:22.960 I wanted to. Oh yeah, I guess everybody. I want 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.760 to say some money yet yo that I know what 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:27.280 I'm gonna do when I go out there. I was 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:37.080 like yeah, yeah, yeah, Like y'all know eat you change? Yeah, yeah, 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:46.120 what you know? And what you don't change? At day? 0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:50.840 What happened to the shot? Oh let's go, let's go everybody, everybody, 0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:56.280 it's my birthday. Let's is your birthday? Or drink chips halloo? 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:09.760 Like that line? But what is it? Because one year 0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:15.280 we all even Gando came out. Uh, we had a 0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:17.520 Rocket Feller show just to give a little We had 0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:21.160 the biggest read the song. So we still we still 0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:27.160 had yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we had it first 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:33.400 and it was frunny because one night, uh we went 0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:37.280 sport sporty with de Parade and it was I think 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:42.280 it was rocket Uh lack Familiar had a club, so 0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:44.840 I think he or Bombino. You guys had had the 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:47.160 father up. You guys had true life. You guys had 0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:50.360 me and it was crazy. I remember you. I think 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.680 it was just you and J and I was at 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.760 the bar and you just drink the killer all night 0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:58.480 and I looked at these niggas and they wouldn't sweat. 0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:03.160 I was so mad. I was so mad. I was jealous. 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:06.440 I was I can use that word. I was jealous. 1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:09.040 I was like, damn, you know after two shots, like 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:11.760 it's like ship didn't come down, my ship right here? Then, 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.480 I mean your under all start acting up, you know, 1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:17.080 but y'all think it's went in sweat. But what the 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.360 fun we kind of training that you kind of drinking 1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:23.680 training did y'all go through, Like you guys don't sweat 1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:25.919 the funk, Like even right now you're got sweating the shot. 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:35.680 Take up my ship now, now say listen um for 1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:42.440 the people that don't know about you. Uh you're like 1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:48.120 in the records I heard, you're like, uh future Lauren 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:56.360 Hill and like Bob dealing. Wodamn right put that shot 1:00:56.400 --> 1:01:02.920 on the shirt. I found you got ship to be honest, 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:06.400 because like your style is so unique, like it's so 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:09.840 like like that. The one thing that I hate about 1:01:09.880 --> 1:01:12.640 this young generation is I could always identify when the 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:15.120 person is right. They always say, all right, that's him, 1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:18.040 that's him. The thing about you is you can you 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:23.479 so versatile that you can you can be any anything ever, 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:25.440 Like like I heard records from you, I was like, 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:28.480 that's the same guy. Like if one would be so 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:30.840 laugh and then one would be right to the car 1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:33.240 and then one of who It's like I've never like 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:35.080 I know why he's you know what I'm saying, Like 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.280 you know because it's but how you do Like first 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:41.880 of where you from Brooklyn? God, damn it, he's still your. God, 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:50.440 I would have something like like what I'm saying, like 1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:52.760 I just thought it was like somewhere like we didn't 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:57.440 real didn't know. I can't believe it's like flat he's 1:01:57.440 --> 1:02:04.840 still your Damn you a murderer, because I don't everybody's 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:07.120 When I was in jail. Everybody's New York. You're actually 1:02:07.240 --> 1:02:10.080 East New York. Like, yeah, you got a body right there. 1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:15.800 You know, I'm like anybody but East New York. So okay, 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:20.800 talk about your upbringing is and like how you doing inspirations? Yeah, 1:02:20.800 --> 1:02:24.080 he's somewhere he's saying, I need to hear what your inspirations. Well, 1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:27.160 I grew up bouncing between Brooklyn, East New York and Guyana. 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:30.760 George soun Guyana. So that's in South America. Yeah, yeah, 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:36.120 I'm West Indian because Guyana's West Indian all over south 1:02:37.480 --> 1:02:40.640 right right, right, so Spanish you know what, I ain't 1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:49.720 run into that pop that sounds yeah good, you're thinking 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:52.760 Ghana Ghana Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean in South America, right, 1:02:52.800 --> 1:02:55.360 So it's Spanish speaking or you know, put yours in 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:58.840 different visions. But we spoke English, we spoke Pats and 1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:01.800 this French Guyana started. It's a geography lesson that, right. 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:04.640 So I grew to boss in between Brooklyn and Guyana. 1:03:04.960 --> 1:03:07.880 So my influences just answer your question. I grew up 1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:09.400 when I was in New York. I was I was 1:03:09.520 --> 1:03:11.960 listening to it was Rockefell, I was listening to J 1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:16.520 I was listening to um Bleek, I was listening to Yeah, 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:19.760 I took some of it back with me, right, because 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:21.320 you know, you get to take things back with you. 1:03:21.960 --> 1:03:24.720 But when I was there growing up for Real and Guyana, 1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:26.840 I was listening to Beanie Man and Spragger Bean's and Booty. 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:32.280 It's heavy. You can't escape. That's just that's normal, Just 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:36.240 like it was doctrine to listen to Ja in New York. 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:38.560 That was you know, that was gospel. You just that's 1:03:38.600 --> 1:03:45.840 what you had in the Caribbean that deserves around. Ala 1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:52.400 also shout out the says because you know what he 1:03:52.480 --> 1:04:00.600 was signed The rocket Fell at test. It's on the 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:05.280 record with you, okay my album. I was hanging out 1:04:05.320 --> 1:04:07.880 with call it the other day and he played me 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:13.960 a Sissler no my bottle sizz and boo Juice. Right. 1:04:14.040 --> 1:04:16.680 I knew he went to Jamaica. I knew he immediately 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:19.160 gotta booge you. I'm not gonna lie to you. And 1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:22.560 you know, like reggae music is like my third or 1:04:22.600 --> 1:04:24.640 four favorite. I don't want to ask it in like 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:27.800 like you know, now I love my shot. I'm gonna 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:30.400 shot a ranks things like I'm old school shot, right, 1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:34.160 I'm um, what's what's the other nigga light skinning like 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:40.000 special ad super I'm like that, so but I ain't 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:43.480 been into like reggae like that like that man, but 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:49.240 he was tapping your shoulder time. I ain't gonna say that. 1:04:49.320 --> 1:04:56.880 I'm like, what's going on? But college playing this ship? 1:04:56.920 --> 1:05:01.280 I was like, Wow, he got some ship. We'll thinking 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:03.080 about DJ college man, I want to give up. What 1:05:03.080 --> 1:05:05.240 did you guys talk about him coming on drink chain? 1:05:05.320 --> 1:05:07.000 You know why I didn't bring it up because I'm 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:12.680 too classic classic? Yeah, because not to he broke it up. 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:15.080 He broke it up. He was like, listen, this is 1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:17.320 when I'm gonna do it. I was like, the conspiracy 1:05:17.360 --> 1:05:19.840 that you've been coming up with, No, I think it's 1:05:19.840 --> 1:05:21.960 still a conspiracy that I was going up. I think 1:05:21.960 --> 1:05:26.040 you think it still is, uh conspiracy? I got now 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:29.640 we got no problem. So class someone that class you 1:05:29.720 --> 1:05:37.360 sent me up. Okay, here's my conspiracy there. If is 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:42.080 a great guy, that's that's you sent me up to. 1:05:42.160 --> 1:05:50.240 Nothing a great guy. It's a great guy. But you 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:54.040 know he has the same part of him school class. 1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:57.880 I've seen him personally tell people I'm gonna suck you up. 1:05:58.760 --> 1:06:03.000 That's my I'm just saying his eyes. Man, I'm not 1:06:03.080 --> 1:06:05.600 saying that. I'm just saying I've seen Tim in a 1:06:06.360 --> 1:06:11.160 occasion or two. I thought I sign listen to this. 1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:15.680 Remember my thought solid this was it's a whole cup 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:21.600 quota point. Okay, So my theory is at some point, 1:06:22.840 --> 1:06:24.640 you know he has things to be out there working 1:06:24.720 --> 1:06:27.200 Street Team doing because men came up around the same 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:31.360 time he did something. No, I didn't do anything, but this, 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:33.560 this is the hate to train. They don't want me 1:06:33.600 --> 1:06:37.560 to finish the start, but they did so angle and 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:41.480 I don't. I'm not sure of cow yet. I'm not 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:49.320 sure the show and we're all home team should be 1:06:49.400 --> 1:06:51.280 on the show. We should have been on the show 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:55.360 back and when we started the show. One million theories. 1:06:56.280 --> 1:06:59.640 I think it's incorrect that I think many times. Yeah, 1:06:59.800 --> 1:07:01.760 I'm bugging. I'm just bum fucking with you, to be 1:07:01.840 --> 1:07:06.160 honest with you. But a part of me that's something 1:07:06.200 --> 1:07:07.720 doing to drink Chase and I ain't gonna be I'm 1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:16.919 going to l a. I'm sure you ain't gonna have Yeah, 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:23.439 I don't want it's real. No, I mean it could 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:27.440 be real. None the confess he knows it. I mean 1:07:27.720 --> 1:07:29.840 one you saying that I love for each other him 1:07:30.680 --> 1:07:34.960 d j If this is an actual cover, yeah, d 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:38.200 j Iri And on my way to l A today, 1:07:39.520 --> 1:07:47.720 little so Um A part of it's just a piece 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:53.080 of me that feels like, um, there's a piece of 1:07:53.120 --> 1:07:57.840 me that feels like you know, I don't know what 1:07:57.920 --> 1:08:00.720 he's trying it with you. I mean I won't do 1:08:00.720 --> 1:08:02.800 I wouldn't be on the show that day. No, no, 1:08:03.200 --> 1:08:06.520 but I could be wrong because he I think it wrong. 1:08:07.080 --> 1:08:09.360 The thing about is this I've been to I've been 1:08:09.400 --> 1:08:14.000 to his cript twice. I'm too. I will not ask 1:08:14.080 --> 1:08:15.720 you for anything in your house. I kid you, not 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:19.920 other than wis the bathroom. I'm just I'm that type 1:08:19.920 --> 1:08:22.280 of nigger. Like even if my next door neighor invites 1:08:22.320 --> 1:08:24.080 me to a party and I see the party going on, 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:26.519 if that person doesn't reiterate you know, you know you 1:08:26.600 --> 1:08:28.640 gotta come to the party, I don't. I don't never 1:08:28.680 --> 1:08:31.679 want to be the intruder guy. Like I wasn't intrude 1:08:31.680 --> 1:08:34.200 at one time in my life and I didn't like it. 1:08:35.560 --> 1:08:38.200 So I don't intrude at all, you know what I'm saying. 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:40.760 So when I'm at when I was, you know, two 1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:45.200 times I'm at his spot. Um, I don't bring up 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:46.840 drink champs at all, you know what I mean. I 1:08:46.920 --> 1:08:48.559 just I just like, yo, I got you know, because 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:54.360 one time I came on the boat. Uh you did what? Yeah, yeah, 1:08:54.360 --> 1:08:57.360 that's he's supposed to do. But remember Mr Levy one 1:08:57.400 --> 1:08:59.240 time he came on the boat with Brom Mr Child, 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:03.960 I put an old liquor in the world and he's like, yo, 1:09:04.120 --> 1:09:06.040 I got it all in my crib. And then it's like, 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.880 you can't really violate. You can't believe like I got 1:09:08.960 --> 1:09:12.200 my own food, Like you look like a fucking Safari hunter, 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:14.200 you know what I'm saying. So I had to leave 1:09:14.240 --> 1:09:18.800 it all. But he plung it up, and I think 1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:20.640 he would eventually do it. I think he's gonna do it. 1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:23.680 I think that the conspiracy is wrong. Yeah, I hope. Really. 1:09:23.680 --> 1:09:25.960 At the end of the day, we came up together 1:09:26.000 --> 1:09:28.479 in Minami, and I'm hell of proud because I'm proud 1:09:28.520 --> 1:09:31.240 of the home team. Anybody from the home team that wins, 1:09:31.520 --> 1:09:35.240 I'm winning as well. And Cat has gone beyond anybody's 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:38.240 expectations and I'm proud of that. And that's why I 1:09:38.320 --> 1:09:41.120 want to showcase him to represent my side and drink 1:09:41.200 --> 1:09:45.519 champions Miamist. Respect you God damn makes some more. Now, 1:09:46.960 --> 1:09:50.639 what what kind of pressure that you face, because literally, 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:53.479 this is the man who finally put on one of 1:09:53.520 --> 1:09:58.280 the greatest people on earth, especially as the MC is 1:09:58.320 --> 1:10:00.960 that pressure always, that's something that you know, it makes 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:02.640 you want to say, you know what, I'm gonna go 1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:04.479 on the motherfucker wake up in the morning, you know 1:10:04.479 --> 1:10:09.040 what I'm saying, And I'm I'm like, how do you 1:10:09.080 --> 1:10:11.840 feel about that? I don't think about it. I don't 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:16.120 think about it. You know. It's funny because right with friends, right, 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:18.600 so he has this tremendous legacy and he's done the 1:10:19.040 --> 1:10:24.360 impossible things. I'm thinking about what I'm trying to do. Right, 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:27.640 I'm thinking, you know where I came from and what 1:10:27.760 --> 1:10:29.600 I want to go next. So when I wake up 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:31.760 in the morning, I'm like, Okay, what's the road and 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:35.120 after get that so that I don't feel any pressure 1:10:35.120 --> 1:10:38.519 outside of can I buy my mom is Chanelle Wallett 1:10:38.520 --> 1:10:42.639 that I just bought for myself? What what's the next 1:10:42.680 --> 1:10:45.320 ten years gonna look like for me? I don't think 1:10:45.360 --> 1:10:47.080 of the pressure, but he's not, and it doesn't feel 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:50.240 that way because I'm hungry. I just wanted. I just wanted. 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:52.200 I don't I forget right, I'm sitting in the corner 1:10:52.200 --> 1:10:54.320 and I'm hearing the stuff. I'm like, oh, this nigger 1:10:54.360 --> 1:10:57.360 did what right? And but I know that, But that's 1:10:57.400 --> 1:10:59.679 not what I'm waking up thinking. That's not the urgency. 1:10:59.760 --> 1:11:02.600 It's is two niggas moving around and we got a 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:05.080 whole other plan and we want to do something. All right, 1:11:05.760 --> 1:11:12.880 goddamn it? That was That was all? Now? Now? Um, now, 1:11:14.200 --> 1:11:17.120 who was your inspirations? Like, besides a jail or something 1:11:17.200 --> 1:11:19.000 like that? Like, who is somebody to look at the 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:22.840 new generation rather forget your inspiration? Somebody are your peers 1:11:22.880 --> 1:11:27.200 that you that you? I mean, you gotta respect Drake, right, 1:11:27.720 --> 1:11:29.519 But there's you know, there's different tiers a you're talking. 1:11:29.720 --> 1:11:32.400 I remember when when I grew up watching Rocket Feller, 1:11:32.439 --> 1:11:35.240 I respected the business model. I was a kid. I 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:37.240 was just like a broke kid in East New York, 1:11:37.320 --> 1:11:39.840 like a bummy bearfoot kid from Guyana, just trying to 1:11:39.920 --> 1:11:42.479 make something. And that I was like, whoa, this is 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:45.360 a path here. There's something that you could do to 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:49.240 something to be executed here that makes sense. So this 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:53.320 inspiration musically and this inspiration business wise, right, and you 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:56.360 come from hard circumstances and you try to make a 1:11:56.439 --> 1:12:00.080 road map out. So I was looking at business and 1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:02.599 were you born here? I was born here? Okay, Well, 1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:05.439 how did they totally one savage thing affect run me 1:12:05.479 --> 1:12:08.080 the wrong word because I'm first generation American, but I 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:13.439 grew up bouncing between countries. You could have easily been born. Yeah, 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:16.000 my mom's scraped to make sure we were born here, 1:12:16.080 --> 1:12:18.040 just to be on this soil, because that meant something, 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:19.800 that meant they couldn't send this back. No, and they're 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:22.640 trying to change that law now even if you're born hire, 1:12:22.720 --> 1:12:25.439 Yeah that parents bring the kids like give birth here. 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:30.400 They're trying to change that law. Words they're calling anchor babies. 1:12:30.439 --> 1:12:33.240 I think I think I heard that, but I ain't 1:12:33.240 --> 1:12:36.559 a little lesson what that meant. Yeah, anchor baby, which 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.920 I mean in some realities, people do come here to 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:42.479 give birth here because they want a better life for 1:12:42.520 --> 1:12:47.080 their children. They're trying to change those laws. I'm sure 1:12:47.080 --> 1:12:49.760 a bunch of our parents did the same thing. I mean, 1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:53.640 just to get here. Just a scraper right, right, So 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:55.519 when I saw this Tony one Savage thing. I'm like, 1:12:55.600 --> 1:12:57.960 this guy, he was just building his life here. He's 1:12:57.960 --> 1:12:59.679 gonna be repped from his kids. He got three kids. 1:12:59.680 --> 1:13:02.320 I didn't know that. I met him a couple of times, 1:13:02.520 --> 1:13:04.960 but I didn't know his entire situation, but I could 1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:10.760 he got no UK at accent, so he's he was born. Actually, like, 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:16.760 I'm confused because I know he's Caribbean. He was, but 1:13:17.240 --> 1:13:20.360 I think I think I think the UK owns Dominica. No, 1:13:20.479 --> 1:13:21.760 I don't think, so. I try to look that up 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:23.680 because I was thinking, is it is a Commonwealth, But 1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:25.680 I don't think it is. Just that will check that, 1:13:25.760 --> 1:13:28.080 because I think if you're born in the British version 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:31.519 of islands, they say that you're probably the UK. Those 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:36.080 aren't British territories, Dominica or St. Lucia, which is isnt 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:42.599 UK British, isn't the UK. That's part of Britain, UK Domerican. St. 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:47.120 Lucia is in a part of that. That's what you're right, right, 1:13:47.280 --> 1:13:52.160 right right? I think is because I was at six seven, 1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:55.120 that's what he's at. He's what he's he's in Dominica 1:13:55.680 --> 1:13:58.640 because he's from there. From that he was born the 1:13:58.720 --> 1:14:01.040 Dominican guy he was has do with the UK. Yeah, 1:14:01.560 --> 1:14:03.840 we're going down right, yeah, yeah, no, no, no no, 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:07.000 but we investigate. We're investigate Jory, but we gotta figure 1:14:07.000 --> 1:14:09.280 it out. Yeah, we gotta figure it out. But goddamn it. 1:14:09.520 --> 1:14:12.080 But but you know, they're saying real quickly, the conspiracy 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:15.200 behind that is supposedly came out with the record that 1:14:15.360 --> 1:14:19.160 was touching on immigration, touching on on other social issues. 1:14:19.439 --> 1:14:20.920 Heard that and then all of a sudden, out he's 1:14:20.960 --> 1:14:24.320 a target, and then that he did it Instagram live 1:14:25.240 --> 1:14:28.559 and he was actually saying snitches like some some crazy ship. 1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:31.800 And not only that you're hanging out with because because 1:14:31.920 --> 1:14:35.519 God bless me, God bless everybody around, but you build 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:38.719 miss jail reformed ship, you gotta be squeaky fucking clean, 1:14:39.600 --> 1:14:41.160 you know what I'm saying. Because you're you're trying to 1:14:41.200 --> 1:14:43.640 say that old least it's bigger down the business should be. 1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:46.559 You know what I'm saying, It reversed and people gonna 1:14:47.200 --> 1:14:49.960 target you for that, you understand I'm saying. So, And 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:52.400 then you know, one of the last three times I 1:14:52.479 --> 1:14:55.320 saw Bleak there was they was together twenty one and them, 1:14:55.400 --> 1:15:01.760 so I think he could meet it. Excuse me me? Yeah, 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:06.080 So how did you feel being at that dinner man? 1:15:06.520 --> 1:15:08.920 That was wild? That was a wild that was wild. 1:15:10.200 --> 1:15:11.960 It's wild right because I'm looking when I look at 1:15:11.960 --> 1:15:16.040 the picture, I'm like, nig that happened. That's crazy. Because 1:15:16.080 --> 1:15:17.600 this this thing is out of his mind. He would like, 1:15:17.680 --> 1:15:21.840 y'oll just pull up. We just we're just nothing is 1:15:21.960 --> 1:15:26.320 then like you listen about the like fucking whoever we're 1:15:26.360 --> 1:15:34.519 walking over big black. I learned facts we were doing. 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:37.280 We were we went there something for BT real quick, right, 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:40.519 signing that this thing is out of his mind. They said, um, 1:15:41.240 --> 1:15:43.000 I remember I'm just in the room. Just what he's 1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:45.519 just talking on camera. They said, if you can go 1:15:45.640 --> 1:15:48.160 back in the pass and you could do anything or 1:15:48.240 --> 1:15:50.479 you could change anything or something like that, right, don't 1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:53.680 make me, don't make me contorted. But he said, They 1:15:53.720 --> 1:15:55.400 were like, what would you do it? He said, I 1:15:55.439 --> 1:15:57.800 would go back. I would sign St. John earlier and 1:15:57.920 --> 1:16:06.400 make Rockefeller bigger dynasty. I left the room, and I 1:16:06.520 --> 1:16:09.040 really think he's gonna be the biggest brand as a male, 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:13.719 since Kanye has a brand musically, I think he's gonna 1:16:13.800 --> 1:16:16.080 cut the edge and then do something that people haven't 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:19.519 seen before and we got it on. I'm gonna be honest, 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:22.680 I was honestly believe that that's not something like my 1:16:22.840 --> 1:16:25.240 legacy is on the line. Believe you know what I'm saying. 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:26.640 I put that ship on the line to come back 1:16:26.680 --> 1:16:27.960 in the music. I could have did this with a 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:30.720 lot of people, bigger artists, you know what I'm saying. 1:16:30.720 --> 1:16:33.240 That was already selling a lot of records. But I 1:16:33.360 --> 1:16:34.920 chose to do it with him for a reason. I 1:16:34.960 --> 1:16:38.000 don't tell you. Before I ever met you, I had 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:40.040 a conversation with him, and that's what he says. He's like, 1:16:40.080 --> 1:16:41.600 that's partly the only person I come back to the 1:16:41.680 --> 1:16:44.880 music business. Well, I was say, because I played the 1:16:44.880 --> 1:16:48.040 album for Nori. I don't even know if we met yet. 1:16:48.200 --> 1:16:50.280 Me and uh sat and I played it for him. 1:16:50.400 --> 1:16:53.559 He was going to Malible. So the music first, yeah, 1:16:53.720 --> 1:16:57.000 purely off the music. Then we just no, no, we 1:16:57.120 --> 1:16:59.720 just became friends. And then he played he had a 1:16:59.800 --> 1:17:02.880 he has an album out now called Collection one. So 1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:06.320 album yeah yeas yeah, that's an album that's been out 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:10.960 in March. So when we met and we talked for 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:12.639 like three hours and he said, come to the studio, 1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:14.840 listened to his new project. I was like, oh, ship, 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:18.479 he did it twice because I was definitely convinced, but 1:17:18.479 --> 1:17:19.560 I was like, I don't know if he could do 1:17:19.640 --> 1:17:22.439 it again. And I heard the new project, I was like, 1:17:22.760 --> 1:17:25.200 let's dude, it ill because the new album jinx like 1:17:25.240 --> 1:17:29.599 everybody's first album. For two months, we just was friends. 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:32.160 You know, We're just hanging out, going out, eating, shilling, 1:17:32.320 --> 1:17:34.360 bringing people to studio listening. First of all, I don't 1:17:34.360 --> 1:17:36.680 even go to studio, so who you know what I mean. 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:38.880 I started bringing other people to listen to the music, 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:40.840 and then I wanted to see if I was bugging. 1:17:41.320 --> 1:17:42.960 So I was like, let me see if everybody else 1:17:43.040 --> 1:17:45.559 feeling the same way that I feel. And everybody was like, yo, 1:17:45.600 --> 1:17:48.519 this ship is crazy. The other like two days ago, 1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:50.640 I was at three days ago playing some songs for 1:17:50.760 --> 1:17:52.720 Jay because I told him. I said, look, man, if 1:17:52.720 --> 1:17:55.360 I knew Michael Jordan's and I'm playing ball, I'm gonna say, yo, 1:17:55.400 --> 1:17:57.800 it's my phone. Correct, I'm gonna go to the best. 1:17:57.840 --> 1:18:00.720 I'm like, Nigga, I got this our mom. I need 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:02.880 you to see what's up. So I played him songs, 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:06.559 some songs that he doinged on the album something like fifteen, 1:18:06.640 --> 1:18:08.639 and JA was like, Yo, this is incredible. He said, 1:18:08.640 --> 1:18:10.760 you didn't play not one black song. He said every 1:18:10.800 --> 1:18:14.160 song you played was incredible. Right now, that's that pressure 1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:16.800 on you? Or is that like it? I'm supposed to 1:18:16.840 --> 1:18:20.280 be like this at this point. This is what I 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:23.000 signed up for, I said, I said, this is what 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:26.200 I wanted a right. It's funny you make the Michael 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:28.479 Jordan's reference. I wake up every day and I tell 1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:30.720 the people around me, I want to be Jordan's. So 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:32.960 if I gotta be Jordan, y'all gotta be the ninety 1:18:33.000 --> 1:18:35.920 six bulls. So the only pressure is the pressure I 1:18:35.960 --> 1:18:37.920 give myself because there's nothing to go back to, there's 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:42.240 nowhere to fall. I'll tell you something that was a 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:45.479 funny story. I can't tell you the player's name because 1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:49.760 I gotta protect them, but I remember one of these 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:52.879 players they drafted the Patriots. They go to the Patriots 1:18:53.360 --> 1:18:57.040 my homeboy, and he called me like two thirty in 1:18:57.080 --> 1:19:00.519 the morning. It's like, oh, I'm pretty he'd be gonna 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:05.000 practice right now. And I'm like what He's like, Yo, 1:19:05.080 --> 1:19:07.360 I'm not used to this, But that's the type of 1:19:07.400 --> 1:19:11.160 ship that to be a champion to do. Tom Brady 1:19:11.280 --> 1:19:13.479 was like, Yo, two thirty in the morning, cold nickas 1:19:13.479 --> 1:19:17.639 and say let's go to practice. Who's gonna tell Tom 1:19:17.720 --> 1:19:22.439 Brady no facts? Who's gonna like, No, I don't want 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:27.320 to practice. I'm drunk like whatever you at, come and 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:29.559 pull up. And that's what it takes to be great. 1:19:29.600 --> 1:19:32.160 It's just you just gotta just do have any fucking thing, 1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:35.240 and you know you want the path, my brother, h 1:19:35.439 --> 1:19:38.040 you got a great team behind you. Want to another 1:19:38.120 --> 1:19:40.200 famous story. I used to remember. I remember, I just 1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:43.880 smoke haze and babies to hate that smoke, Haye, stop 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:51.360 smoking right there, you know. In fact, I'll take another shot. 1:19:57.760 --> 1:20:00.720 I remember. I remember, I remember, I've been bigs used 1:20:00.720 --> 1:20:05.920 to like because I would, I would smoke, but I 1:20:05.960 --> 1:20:09.439 wouldn't like search for the like the best of the best. 1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:11.200 I would be like, if if it's be I'm good, 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:14.640 like I ain't even want be plucks. I'm good. And 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:17.360 most of us was like that. In New York, this 1:20:17.560 --> 1:20:21.040 motherfucker they had a week called Harrod Wanna. I had 1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:23.040 no idea what it was. First of all, I thought 1:20:23.040 --> 1:20:26.680 I was doing HEROD sound by the way, Harojuanna, Let's 1:20:26.680 --> 1:20:30.680 go it was the best week I've ever smoke. But 1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:39.120 we went too so we're doing ninety of rock nineties six. 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:47.760 Your position, um uh, with everything you've been through. When 1:20:47.800 --> 1:20:52.120 people look sometimes and you know, I like the I 1:20:52.160 --> 1:20:54.120 hate to bring it up. It's just you know, people 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:57.080 ask and people see you and Jay so strong together. 1:20:57.400 --> 1:21:01.120 One of the things is why you and Dame is 1:21:01.200 --> 1:21:03.840 not all together. I know. People always say it's funny 1:21:03.920 --> 1:21:05.880 because it's not like if I go to his house, 1:21:06.360 --> 1:21:08.040 I gotta say your damn, I'm going to Jay house. 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:09.559 You gotta show up so we could take this picture. 1:21:11.360 --> 1:21:15.600 It's just just happened. No one thinks that though. By 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:19.760 the way, I think Instagram is super constrocted, because some 1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:23.439 people really construct the Instagram like they think that their 1:21:23.560 --> 1:21:26.880 life is that chronological order. Like someone told me, someone 1:21:26.960 --> 1:21:28.840 told me the other day, we're gonna get right back 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:30.360 to this. Some one told the other day, yea, I 1:21:30.439 --> 1:21:32.599 picked you up, and you ain't even like the picture. 1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:36.240 I said, I ain't seen it. Like it's no conspiracy. 1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:38.559 I guess people in my dam said I hit up. 1:21:39.680 --> 1:21:42.160 Said that's not a question for me, but him again, 1:21:42.320 --> 1:21:45.000 Like I've seen certain ship go to that like people 1:21:45.160 --> 1:21:47.040 like early on, like you talked about all the crews 1:21:47.040 --> 1:21:50.040 coming together in Brooklyn Hall and and everybody out of that, 1:21:51.040 --> 1:21:53.120 Me and Top Top probably hung out more than any 1:21:53.200 --> 1:21:56.560 of us. Wow. So back then, even though Jay and 1:21:56.600 --> 1:21:58.880 to you know, everybody know the story they grew up together, 1:21:58.920 --> 1:22:01.160 but it was me and to Top almost every day 1:22:01.200 --> 1:22:04.160 they get every day now no pictures dare so what 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:07.240 they're gonna say, Yo, why damon Jane and this picture? 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:09.720 Because being time to hang out just certain people click up. 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:11.360 And that's just how that doesn't mean you don't have 1:22:11.439 --> 1:22:13.240 love for somebody else or something like that, you know, 1:22:13.800 --> 1:22:16.360 even if two people are getting along or not. And 1:22:16.520 --> 1:22:18.720 just you know right now, that's just you know what 1:22:18.720 --> 1:22:22.320 I mean, where I hang out most, you know, right 1:22:22.360 --> 1:22:29.120 all right, So um again this is something that's on 1:22:29.240 --> 1:22:36.280 the internet. Um, choke, no joke, I don't know, of course, 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:42.479 you know, choking joke accused. Um what did he say 1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:49.400 to little guy? Oh he's trying to somebody before you 1:22:49.439 --> 1:22:51.040 even going a story that day is a lie and 1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:53.760 he makes up a lot of ship. Okay, Yeah, So 1:22:53.920 --> 1:22:56.240 don't matter what the story is, it's probably a whole 1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:59.680 bunch of spin on the trip. Cool cool. We'll leave 1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:02.760 it that we're at that. I right, you got something 1:23:02.760 --> 1:23:05.200 because I gotta take a peep peace, but really taking 1:23:05.240 --> 1:23:08.639 the shot. Oh where I'm man? Shot totally the guy, 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:11.880 I totally. I'm having fun. Man, you just say something pictures. 1:23:11.960 --> 1:23:14.000 Let me just tell you something. Big. I just want 1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:17.320 to be honest with what everybody everybody Big is one 1:23:17.360 --> 1:23:21.280 of the most genuine people I ever met. I feel 1:23:21.320 --> 1:23:23.080 like you should be praised. I feel like you should. 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:25.560 I feel like and that's the good thing about you 1:23:25.680 --> 1:23:27.240 is you don't You don't even give a funk like 1:23:27.320 --> 1:23:29.000 you don't give a funk about having props. And that 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:32.679 ship is just amazing to be because and you said 1:23:32.720 --> 1:23:35.679 something earlier, you said, Yo, I rather celebrate other people's birthdays. 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:39.639 That's exactly how it was. One Big don't got a shot? Yeah, 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:43.439 what's going out? The next thing? I got a shot. 1:23:44.160 --> 1:23:47.160 He's making a speech's making a speech. You gotta connect. 1:23:47.360 --> 1:23:51.040 He liked the Delhi got damn. So you know, and 1:23:51.240 --> 1:23:53.439 I just feel like, Paul, Yeah, shout out to put 1:23:53.479 --> 1:23:57.880 me on de Yeah, shout to revolt shot on my birthday. 1:23:57.920 --> 1:24:01.400 That's became my favorite to kill. Okay, all right, that's 1:24:01.400 --> 1:24:03.800 what you're trying to do. You can fill me up. Listen, 1:24:03.880 --> 1:24:15.280 I ain't back Paul time, So listen to you, babe. 1:24:17.760 --> 1:24:21.479 Saw a little family St. John and the motherfucking building 1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:31.479 in great hands. We respect you. So what's so? What's 1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:34.320 the plan from here? Are we signed up St. John 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:38.160 to rock Nation? Are we signing them to a title? 1:24:38.880 --> 1:24:40.720 I've seen pictures with you in l a read? Is 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:44.639 that a thing? On? No? I got options? Man? Yeah? 1:24:44.680 --> 1:24:48.000 I mean he sign right now? He's label lad okay? 1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:53.040 What is what ling? Was he? What is hitco? What hiteco? Hitco? Okay? 1:24:53.160 --> 1:24:55.479 Because he up out of the yell y'all, y'all gotta 1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:59.479 mean so he had a hitco right now? It's that. 1:24:59.680 --> 1:25:02.200 It's the So what's the next plan? Is that the 1:25:02.280 --> 1:25:06.240 album we scale it Collection one came out last year, 1:25:08.320 --> 1:25:11.160 do it again, do bigger? Go back on tour and 1:25:11.240 --> 1:25:13.479 did two tours last year, did two sold out tours 1:25:14.120 --> 1:25:18.640 on the project that you wouldn't have heard salable in 1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:24.240 a sexy car, right, that's the word, Like two world tours. 1:25:24.760 --> 1:25:26.360 I'm gonna go back and do that again, but this 1:25:26.520 --> 1:25:30.600 time on a bigger leave more silk, more leather, a 1:25:30.680 --> 1:25:33.280 few more blondes, you know. And it's not about being 1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:36.040 signed to somebody else. It's about God complex. So that's 1:25:36.080 --> 1:25:38.680 the company that's being created right now. That everything I'll 1:25:38.720 --> 1:25:43.599 run through. Okay, would that be your label controlling yourself? Yeah, 1:25:44.760 --> 1:25:47.080 it's the same model. It's the same model we saw before. 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:51.559 You know, with new information, it's like not to say 1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:52.800 that I don't want to put it there, but I 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:55.439 got to watch it. I got to watch Rockefeller in 1:25:55.520 --> 1:25:58.240 two thousand and five, six seven. Now I got not 1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:03.280 got the end of work because mind the whole book. No, no, no, 1:26:03.560 --> 1:26:06.400 I'm gonna be honest and this this I'm gonna say. 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:07.880 This is not to big you up, but this is 1:26:08.000 --> 1:26:10.719 to big you up. The Chico starts with your music. 1:26:11.640 --> 1:26:15.599 The music speaks for itself. Everythink that's the problem with artists. 1:26:15.680 --> 1:26:18.240 Most artists have the music and don't have nothing else 1:26:18.680 --> 1:26:21.320 and the attitude, you know what I'm saying. And the 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:23.519 thing is, you got the music and then you got 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:27.760 the person. So the thing about it is, if you 1:26:27.840 --> 1:26:30.320 don't go to where you at, it's purely your fault. 1:26:30.360 --> 1:26:32.040 I'm just throwing it out there because that means you 1:26:32.080 --> 1:26:34.120 didn't work hard enough. That means you didn't. That means 1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:36.120 you missed the morning show. That means you went to 1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:38.439 the tunnel, you know, I know, my old nig thennel. 1:26:39.920 --> 1:26:42.639 But that means that means you when the club live, 1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:44.640 and then you forgot that. You gotta wake up in 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:47.160 the morning and go see motherfucking y'all got I mean, 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:48.960 and y're gonna mean it in the morning. And that's 1:26:49.000 --> 1:26:51.280 the thing is fall in love with the work and 1:26:51.439 --> 1:26:53.760 never the money. And this she would always follow you, 1:26:53.960 --> 1:26:56.960 my dude. You know what I'm saying. The money, The 1:26:57.000 --> 1:26:58.640 money will come once you love the work. You know 1:26:58.640 --> 1:27:01.560 what I'm saying that. Yeah, yeah, I believe, And I 1:27:01.600 --> 1:27:03.120 don't believe in chasing it back. I don't think you 1:27:03.200 --> 1:27:06.040 have to. I think even that will come. It's automatic. 1:27:06.280 --> 1:27:08.240 When you find you hit your stride, things just sort 1:27:08.320 --> 1:27:11.880 of come right. Like we this morning. I was this morning, 1:27:11.920 --> 1:27:13.920 I was in Jamaica. I spent the last ten days 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:21.479 in Jamaica. Not on vacation, although you know it looked good, queens, Okay, okay. 1:27:22.280 --> 1:27:23.840 I spent the last ten days I was working on 1:27:23.920 --> 1:27:26.240 music in Jamaica, like I'm the studio, like fourteen hours 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:28.280 a day and on sageration, right so I get out 1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:31.200 the studio this morning at like six am or seven am. 1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:33.400 I hop on a plane. We get here. We hop 1:27:33.439 --> 1:27:37.120 on the offer plane. We're here. All was after lots 1:27:37.160 --> 1:27:40.920 of roles you did. I'm on South Africa and South 1:27:40.960 --> 1:27:44.680 African lobster tails, lots of roles. By the way, we 1:27:44.840 --> 1:27:49.000 was in college clip me Lenny asked at DJ college 1:27:49.000 --> 1:27:57.760 and we were talking about your instagram. How vegan right now? 1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:01.960 Something about being kind vegan, no white, a vegan plate. 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:09.439 But the chicken the waffles. Yeah, we got chicken and 1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:11.160 waffles here. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. 1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:14.080 She was amazing that. But didn't you be saying I 1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:16.760 didn't eat this far. That's that's that's the part that 1:28:16.840 --> 1:28:19.880 our collar and lines, dam pete, because that's what they eat. Yeah, 1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:21.479 I would be like, yo did Like you got to 1:28:21.520 --> 1:28:25.040 watch the Whole Food Blog. Yeah, yeah, shoot eat, I 1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:28.519 told it, they just watch eat all that foul fit 1:28:28.680 --> 1:28:33.080 yo letty stuff in the dessert was counting. He's that 1:28:33.240 --> 1:28:38.320 way callis not needing a dessert. College is on shout 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:44.720 out the color right a wrong. Let me tell you something. 1:28:45.960 --> 1:28:52.360 Just feel worth foxes. He can work, but you kind 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:54.479 of you kind of have a little bit of money 1:28:54.640 --> 1:28:59.519 because the crazy ship was the chef because they already 1:28:59.520 --> 1:29:03.000 cooked this. So every time you know, he goes and 1:29:03.120 --> 1:29:05.360 grabs something, that's a person that comes up to him 1:29:05.360 --> 1:29:10.240 and says, that's such such an amount of calories. Nor 1:29:10.520 --> 1:29:13.519 it was. It was amazing to me a human calorie countra. Yeah, 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:19.800 it's amazing. It was amazing. Like I'm just telling you, 1:29:19.880 --> 1:29:22.320 that's the last Like he was sitting in the person 1:29:22.479 --> 1:29:24.400 was like, look, you can have this, but if you 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:26.640 have this, you can't have that. If you want to 1:29:26.720 --> 1:29:29.840 drink of wine, a drinking wine, but that drink of 1:29:29.880 --> 1:29:31.800 wine is gonna take away from him that piece of 1:29:32.160 --> 1:29:37.200 such the weight Watchers, the weight Watchers program, the calorie amazing. Yeah, 1:29:37.400 --> 1:29:39.439 it's amazing. But listen, I'm gonna be honest with you. 1:29:42.080 --> 1:29:46.040 I don't have money like DJ Cale, So me being 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:49.560 all that ship, I was fail. I think you you know, 1:29:49.800 --> 1:29:51.599 I think if you want that J shot the funk 1:29:51.640 --> 1:29:57.920 out Caulgary County, I would lose Calgary cal He I 1:29:57.920 --> 1:30:00.240 would love of Calgary. Carroll Love was like four or 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:02.000 five years ago and use like yo, bigs, I ain't 1:30:02.000 --> 1:30:05.560 gonna lie more my ship. Yeah you know when you 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:08.320 using jail, I was I was three, I was almost 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:12.640 three pictures right now. It was even right before that 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:14.479 after when you was doing that the whole thing, right 1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:19.320 yeah yeah yeah yeah, ain't the same, but at least 1:30:19.360 --> 1:30:23.960 I got it down three D the calorie counter. No, no, 1:30:24.320 --> 1:30:27.479 she was not, like see weight watchers is different. See 1:30:27.520 --> 1:30:30.080 to think about it is, but that's not weight watchers 1:30:30.280 --> 1:30:34.320 know it is for calorie No, no weight watch this period. 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:37.040 You can actually cheat. That's why you can have pizza 1:30:37.320 --> 1:30:39.800 like you ever seen over and promoting that ship and 1:30:39.920 --> 1:30:42.559 over we have pizza and ship like that because they're 1:30:42.560 --> 1:30:45.040 not talking to real fat people. Man, I'm just telling 1:30:45.040 --> 1:30:48.160 you the truth. Actually, yeah, yeah, I'm telling the truth. Yeah. 1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:51.840 It's like pounds gave sent some certain places, but it 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:53.760 tells you what to eat. Yeah, like you know, how 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.519 were you eating dessert and all this ship? He was like, ye, 1:30:55.600 --> 1:30:57.800 don't trust me. That's what I know. It's a calorie county. 1:30:57.800 --> 1:31:00.519 Don't what you do? Like, So that's most you're allowed 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:03.360 a certain amount of calories, right, two thousand day, I 1:31:03.560 --> 1:31:05.400 say fifteen hundred, right, that's what that was where my 1:31:05.520 --> 1:31:07.280 mom was at. Right, So that's you say, you have 1:31:07.360 --> 1:31:11.640 that little pizza. That pizza might be worth several hundred calories, right, 1:31:12.560 --> 1:31:14.680 so now you take that seven hundred calories. Now you 1:31:14.840 --> 1:31:17.800 have what we said fifty hundred. So now you have 1:31:17.920 --> 1:31:21.040 several hundred and fifty left, eight hundred left to go. 1:31:21.760 --> 1:31:24.040 So you just work around that and as long as 1:31:24.080 --> 1:31:27.400 you stay there, then this ship drops. Yeah, but nobody 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:30.680 has and you gotta drink. That's behind your sholder. That's 1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:33.800 what I'm trying to say. That's that's my point. My 1:31:33.840 --> 1:31:35.760 point is, you gotta have that bread, and you want 1:31:35.840 --> 1:31:38.880 somebody you respect to. You don't want somebody you don't respect, saying, hey, 1:31:39.120 --> 1:31:41.160 put that cheesecake down, like put the funk up, make 1:31:41.240 --> 1:31:44.800 him now that the cheefecake. You want somebody, you know 1:31:44.840 --> 1:31:47.080 what I say, You want somebody even respect. So he 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:50.800 got a couple of dudes that like, we got something 1:31:51.360 --> 1:31:52.960 to me, you know what I'm saying. It was just 1:31:53.120 --> 1:31:55.080 like yo, you know, over the room, you have that 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:59.080 chicken na. But they were just like, you know, letting 1:31:59.080 --> 1:32:01.559 them know, like because that's the one thing, but showing too. 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:04.720 For certain, nothing's worse than trying to do something and 1:32:04.840 --> 1:32:07.439 not accomplishing that goal. You know what I'm saying, so 1:32:07.439 --> 1:32:10.160 if you set out to do something, and um, that's 1:32:10.200 --> 1:32:13.400 one thing. I guess he's focused, like he's he was 1:32:13.479 --> 1:32:16.360 serious Like the last a couple of times I've seen him, 1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:18.160 I got on a drink. I did not get him 1:32:18.160 --> 1:32:19.719 to drink this time. I don't think he's a big drinker. 1:32:19.960 --> 1:32:22.439 He's never been a big drinker. He's seaful, yallow and 1:32:22.960 --> 1:32:30.080 rock and yeah, he's kidding him and told him he 1:32:30.120 --> 1:32:32.280 didn't got a drink drink. I think that's when he's 1:32:32.280 --> 1:32:34.519 scared though too. I got that way sober. I think 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:36.240 he thinks he's gonna get here, he's gonna have a 1:32:36.240 --> 1:32:39.920 shot taking ball. He's gonna start talking about don't drink 1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:42.080 on drink. Yeah, we don't mind it because we'll get 1:32:42.360 --> 1:32:44.320 the f joe. But it was here. I didn't drink 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:49.720 nine due the first episode. I didn't drink. First time. 1:32:49.960 --> 1:32:53.519 You didn't drink the first time, Luke, Luke didn't. Luke 1:32:53.560 --> 1:32:57.920 didn't drink. I think he didn't smoke because he because 1:32:58.360 --> 1:33:00.760 high school, we all smoke like we didn't smoke in 1:33:00.800 --> 1:33:02.599 front of True Life and either of these for all right, 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:06.559 come on, people were coming here. You know what I'm saying, yeah, 1:33:07.800 --> 1:33:17.400 just getting when you talk ourselves. Yea like ship should 1:33:17.439 --> 1:33:19.160 be really like people were scared to come in. Who 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:21.800 else said they were scared? Joel Santanna. A lot of 1:33:21.920 --> 1:33:24.360 artists done scared because I see Juel, She's like, yo, 1:33:24.400 --> 1:33:25.800 I gotta prep for this ship, I said, And then 1:33:25.800 --> 1:33:29.400 you don't gonna work out they come to drink care 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:32.479 just come on, here we go. We're good man for listen, man, 1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:34.360 I want to thank both of you, brother, thank you, 1:33:34.600 --> 1:33:37.479 because again, in our culture, in our generation, none of 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:39.760 us back each other up. Everyone wants to compete with 1:33:39.840 --> 1:33:42.080 each other. Everyone wants to say how much better they 1:33:42.120 --> 1:33:44.800 are the next man, or how much more do they 1:33:44.880 --> 1:33:47.040 put it into this game as the next man. I 1:33:47.160 --> 1:33:49.240 wanted to stop that. I wanted to have a show 1:33:49.600 --> 1:33:52.120 where we could sit down and just give people their 1:33:52.160 --> 1:33:54.240 flywers where they can smell them. They thought us, where 1:33:54.280 --> 1:33:56.360 they can tell them they drinks, where they can drink them, 1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:58.160 and they you know, they thought us where they can 1:33:58.240 --> 1:34:00.560 think of I know it's a little little scary, you 1:34:00.560 --> 1:34:03.160 know what I'm saying, But it's it's real ship. It's 1:34:03.200 --> 1:34:07.120 real ship because none of us, our community is just 1:34:07.320 --> 1:34:09.280 doesn't exist. No more where we just say, you know, 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:11.160 you're a great job man. You know what I'm saying. 1:34:11.439 --> 1:34:15.080 You know, I respect what you're doing. It's they say 1:34:15.120 --> 1:34:17.840 that's thick rider nowadays, Like if I say your good job, 1:34:18.680 --> 1:34:22.000 you know this dick like, that's that's not that's not 1:34:22.280 --> 1:34:25.760 that's not real man ship. I'm a man. I can 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:29.120 say great job, drain like the way you took that picture, 1:34:30.120 --> 1:34:33.559 you don't mean nothing. That means that's I'm big enough, 1:34:33.720 --> 1:34:36.679 great art, big enough, great work. But in this generation, 1:34:36.760 --> 1:34:39.040 they will try to make you seem like you're a dick, 1:34:39.200 --> 1:34:42.680 right or your your you know, one of them the 1:34:42.880 --> 1:34:45.240 foul names that they use, And that's that shouldn't be it. 1:34:45.760 --> 1:34:48.840 We should say great job. We shouldn't say your bags. Man. 1:34:48.880 --> 1:34:50.720 I'm proud of you. I'm proud of how you came 1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:53.840 home and you just took to the ground running, and 1:34:54.439 --> 1:34:56.120 you should be saluted, you know what I mean. I 1:34:56.240 --> 1:35:00.599 feel like in this generation that they try to trying 1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:02.639 to take that away, and I don't want that to happen. 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:06.639 I want us to always as a culture. And when 1:35:06.640 --> 1:35:09.840 I say as a culture, that doesn't mean ratio, that 1:35:09.920 --> 1:35:14.479 means hip hop. Believe hip hop is a race. Believe 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:17.800 when you vote a couple of years you say you 1:35:17.880 --> 1:35:23.720 said you should check black then hip hop. Well look 1:35:23.800 --> 1:35:26.240 it's seriously, it's good that you guys got a platform 1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:28.759 like that because y'all able to give people a voice, 1:35:29.560 --> 1:35:31.920 right so you said it earlier. How do you do 1:35:32.040 --> 1:35:34.559 it or how do you reach younger kids or speak? 1:35:34.880 --> 1:35:37.679 But it's platforms like this because it's not many, especially 1:35:37.800 --> 1:35:39.880 like what new artists you know what I'm saying, like 1:35:39.960 --> 1:35:41.720 St John like to be on the cusp or something, 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:44.479 not trying to do it after it already took off 1:35:44.520 --> 1:35:46.720 and had success. What you would you know what I'm saying. 1:35:47.360 --> 1:35:49.240 You guys had a foresight to see that ship. So 1:35:49.880 --> 1:35:52.720 it's platforms like this that that's what's helping hip hop. Well, 1:35:52.840 --> 1:35:54.600 well thank you, because this is what I want to 1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:56.799 continue to do. I want us a culture to continue 1:35:56.800 --> 1:36:00.559 to pick each other up because it's it's y'all bottle man. 1:36:00.600 --> 1:36:03.880 If everyone is riched and you know what, what what 1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:06.000 who can be the crutches? You know why? I don't 1:36:06.120 --> 1:36:10.360 forget how it goes, but nobody can forms. Everybody le 1:36:10.640 --> 1:36:13.120 each other crush exactly man. And while we're in that 1:36:13.200 --> 1:36:15.800 spirit too, you're giving flowers, fan your self some flower 1:36:15.880 --> 1:36:24.200 you did a lot. Let's tell you something you don't 1:36:24.240 --> 1:36:25.639 never got to do because I wake up in the morning, 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:27.760 I need myself flowers. Ain't day I'd be like, nigga, 1:36:27.800 --> 1:36:32.719 you the ship, you ain't gonna work flower girls. Yeah, 1:36:34.120 --> 1:36:38.599 I got higher myself myself, little girl, let's come out here. Yeah, 1:36:39.840 --> 1:36:42.640 grown up listening right now? He was wild nigger, right, 1:36:43.560 --> 1:36:47.040 I gotta n o y E stands. That's really stand 1:36:47.120 --> 1:36:53.519 for niggas on the running. I'm not hearing running, but 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.439 I ain't that I wrote that album. You should take 1:36:55.479 --> 1:36:56.840 a shot to that. Hold up. We got god there 1:36:56.880 --> 1:37:03.479 wrong with you? That one you don't like, doesn't worry. 1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:09.960 That's don't blowing up right. I'm figured other. Oh yeah, 1:37:12.040 --> 1:37:14.519 you gotta drink that one. Person. That's just oh yeah, 1:37:14.520 --> 1:37:18.559 you gotta drink that one. Like I ain't gonna miss 1:37:18.560 --> 1:37:20.559 a leaf. You can hit me a little heavier, hit 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:29.280 me a little I'm not going to driving me to night. Paul, Hey, 1:37:32.320 --> 1:37:36.320 you know you gotta remote that at the place we're 1:37:36.360 --> 1:37:39.160 in right now, Like when we came up, there wasn't 1:37:39.200 --> 1:37:41.160 a lot of different people of color that you could 1:37:41.160 --> 1:37:43.479 look up to that has success where you say, oh 1:37:43.479 --> 1:37:46.960 I can do that. It was just sports music or 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:49.679 you was hustling. So now you've got people like Maverick 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:56.559 lebron Right, Steve Stout, he was to do rich Rich Faul. Yeah, 1:37:56.600 --> 1:37:59.280 but that's all a part of Okay, that's that same fruit. 1:37:59.640 --> 1:38:01.840 Because we're trying to get Anthony Davis, the Lakers man, 1:38:02.120 --> 1:38:03.799 we have to see all those people in the different 1:38:03.920 --> 1:38:05.720 you know, different businesses. It give us a lot of 1:38:05.920 --> 1:38:08.320 you know what I mean, young young kids hope at 1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:19.280 different apvenues to get out. So I'm not m imna 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:21.200 wake up. I'm gonna wake up a flatbush and I 1:38:21.240 --> 1:38:29.360 know I got there, Zombi after this ship is good. Well, 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:32.920 since when you becamele to kill a drinker, I've been 1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:36.240 drinking to skail for a few years, and jail was 1:38:36.479 --> 1:38:46.599 count There wasn't killer the jail. It was but drinking 1:38:46.640 --> 1:38:50.400 to kill while I drink everything. Okay, now you're a 1:38:50.400 --> 1:38:53.880 really drinking. I don't know where literally beer came from. 1:38:54.240 --> 1:38:56.280 It was by the way. He started out as a 1:38:56.400 --> 1:38:58.920 rum drink. I've always been a rum drinking and then 1:38:59.000 --> 1:39:03.120 I was a bad turning. I was amazing, I was amazing. 1:39:03.520 --> 1:39:08.400 I've been just Bocardia. I mean, I like BOCARTI not 1:39:08.560 --> 1:39:11.760 to make this corper diplomatical for sure? Or what's the 1:39:11.840 --> 1:39:20.240 nick Robin Rosa? They I said, Rob Flood, you gotta 1:39:20.280 --> 1:39:30.680 stop doing come home. Brother. Don't know about me drinking beer. No, 1:39:30.880 --> 1:39:32.960 I'm saying that it was funny because I used to 1:39:33.040 --> 1:39:35.519 drink beer all the time and used to drink the 1:39:35.560 --> 1:39:38.560 hard look because of my lady man and then my 1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:51.599 ladies to three yo. What's the game man, drink chance? 1:39:51.680 --> 1:39:53.200 I mean, you know what, we're family're gonna want to 1:39:53.200 --> 1:39:55.320 take pictures with y'all. So we want to thank you all, 1:39:55.560 --> 1:39:57.200 you know for just coming through because this is a 1:39:57.240 --> 1:40:00.479 real show. Come through again. Let's come through again. You're alumni, 1:40:00.840 --> 1:40:02.200 you know. Say I got to get you a chain. 1:40:02.680 --> 1:40:07.240 Get you a chain? Now? How we cannot not talk 1:40:07.320 --> 1:40:12.360 about rocket fell Yes, I'm might use the backs to pass. Yes, 1:40:12.600 --> 1:40:27.880 I think I got it somewhere about so y'all know 1:40:28.200 --> 1:40:31.880 at that time I had two originals. I gave norin 1:40:32.439 --> 1:40:36.880 my original rocket of my neck. Where we were at 1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:39.360 in the village somewhere village so like my park, I 1:40:39.439 --> 1:40:43.320 remember we did that. Just think we took we took 1:40:43.400 --> 1:40:48.599 the pictures. Never signed a contract. We worked the record 1:40:48.720 --> 1:40:52.120 the business running talk song of all time, work the 1:40:52.160 --> 1:40:55.760 record without the album. Yeah, that's a whole of that 1:40:55.800 --> 1:40:59.160 could have produced it. It's true, but in my undersigned 1:40:59.160 --> 1:41:02.360 the contract and we don't know when the show and listen, 1:41:03.200 --> 1:41:06.840 listen you wanted it. No, you ear his side and 1:41:06.960 --> 1:41:09.960 you know, you know singles have rocket fellow lows have 1:41:10.160 --> 1:41:17.240 a single. Yeah, this was some three h sign Now 1:41:20.960 --> 1:41:29.519 I got you sign it. I let little listen. We 1:41:30.200 --> 1:41:35.120 paid for the video. Yeah, you know we did everything. No, 1:41:35.320 --> 1:41:37.080 it's not you. I like to get away with your 1:41:37.120 --> 1:41:41.439 story for Yeah. I was begging them. They were so rich. 1:41:41.479 --> 1:41:43.160 I was like, give me the contract. It was like 1:41:43.360 --> 1:41:47.720 we got you fam the nigga didn't care. I let 1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:51.200 you get a story. But that's how that's how they 1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:55.000 ran the building because Cam was supposed to do that. 1:41:55.160 --> 1:41:57.160 Every bird came was supposed to roll it over, like 1:41:57.240 --> 1:41:59.320 you know what I'm saying, like this roll because we're careful. 1:41:59.680 --> 1:42:02.719 I was. I would have man, I would imagine because 1:42:02.720 --> 1:42:04.840 I was like you already, like just get to me, 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:06.720 and he's just like, no, be good as long as 1:42:06.760 --> 1:42:10.400 things as long as these do. I wasn't like leaving listening. 1:42:10.680 --> 1:42:12.160 We're gonna bring the chain out so we can at 1:42:12.200 --> 1:42:14.800 least see what want I don't make. The boy with 1:42:14.880 --> 1:42:17.520 the un was on the listening. Man, I'm gonna duplicated. 1:42:17.600 --> 1:42:20.640 I'm going to Julia and be like you're making the 1:42:20.720 --> 1:42:25.840 gold some scritching, saying that motherfucker the tickets it gold. Like. 1:42:27.479 --> 1:42:31.479 That's that's where the story gets complicated, because I had both, 1:42:32.520 --> 1:42:36.040 and I don't remember when I ain't gonna live as 1:42:36.080 --> 1:42:38.120 somebody gave him both. I was taking a lot of 1:42:38.120 --> 1:42:44.559 eggs and c and modegyang. Listen, man, I'm still affected, 1:42:44.680 --> 1:42:47.080 but by the ship I was doing back then. So 1:42:47.360 --> 1:42:49.599 I'm like, you know, sometimes I wake up, I don't 1:42:49.640 --> 1:42:51.840 be knowing what listen. I won't up. The other day 1:42:51.880 --> 1:42:55.720 I had an old dream that I'm smoking cigarettes, having 1:42:55.760 --> 1:42:58.280 smoke cigarettes in a year, make some money for that guy, 1:43:01.479 --> 1:43:03.599 and the listen isn't my house. I'm I'm gonna turn 1:43:03.680 --> 1:43:06.720 up the balcony. Got there then when you're not not 1:43:06.840 --> 1:43:11.720 really you can't call it the terrorist. You ain't gonna lie. Yeah, 1:43:11.760 --> 1:43:13.920 but listen, listen, because we're keeping good body. We gotta 1:43:13.960 --> 1:43:15.320 get out of we gotta get out there. I gotta 1:43:15.360 --> 1:43:17.000 you know, I gotta fiss first. Please, don't want to 1:43:17.200 --> 1:43:19.519 go to the bathroom first. I've been holding this this 1:43:19.680 --> 1:43:23.240 whole time. I wanted to say thank you, guys. I 1:43:23.320 --> 1:43:25.360 wanted to say thank you because this is what it is. 1:43:25.439 --> 1:43:27.120 This is a hip hop show for hip hop people, 1:43:27.240 --> 1:43:29.360 and we're gonna keep this ship hip hop st John Man. 1:43:29.400 --> 1:43:31.160 We don't understand what you're doing. We're proud of what 1:43:31.240 --> 1:43:33.120 the you doing. We want to be the first show 1:43:33.200 --> 1:43:35.519 to say that we knew that, to put you on here. 1:43:35.560 --> 1:43:38.439 We recognize. So when a year later or two years later, 1:43:38.600 --> 1:43:40.519 when you're the biggest thing in the world, I'm gonna 1:43:40.520 --> 1:43:42.240 be honest, We're gonna pull out this spot and say 1:43:42.280 --> 1:43:48.519 we talk. We know that we will do that. Were 1:43:48.920 --> 1:43:52.880 like that claim your prop you gonna You're gonna give 1:43:52.880 --> 1:43:55.639 your credit because you know why one thing for show 1:43:55.680 --> 1:43:58.160 up to them a certain It's like he just said 1:43:58.160 --> 1:44:01.200 that about Jay earlier. He said he doesn't does jail 1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:03.280 do not for money. This is the same way. This 1:44:03.400 --> 1:44:05.479 dude ain't doing that for money. He's doing something because 1:44:05.520 --> 1:44:07.720 he's passionate about it, he believes, he believes in it. 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:09.600 He don't funk with any trust me. I try to 1:44:09.600 --> 1:44:13.040 get into funk with so many different things, and if 1:44:13.080 --> 1:44:15.280 he wasn't about it, he ain't about it. And that's 1:44:15.400 --> 1:44:18.080 that's that's genuine. You ain't gonna find that in this game. 1:44:18.160 --> 1:44:21.719 So um, you know, cherish that ship and make motherfucking 1:44:21.800 --> 1:44:24.240 couple of million dollars, my dude, and the next time Mr. 1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:25.320 Child's on, you got damn