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Speaker 1: of time, still out here getting money, got new artists,
Speaker 1: new adventures, new movies, new endeavors, new clothing lines. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker's still out here kicking ass. He looks like he's
Speaker 1: motherfucking twenty four years old, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And motherfucking incredible hawk shape and all this type of
Speaker 1: ship and if you don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: my motherfucking homeboy big Burg. Now one of the one
Speaker 1: of the things that struck me very earlier. You was involved,
Speaker 1: you're involved with this movie O G. That's that's that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that was incredible, right, Hold hold on, y'all. We're gonna
Speaker 1: act like it's already out because by the times to
Speaker 1: the movie O G came out. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: HBO correct? Okay, okay, are so, so what was the
Speaker 1: first one? O G? O G? And then it's a
Speaker 1: hard truth, the hard truth? Okay, let's let's take what
Speaker 1: O G. So. Um, obviously it's about a guy who
Speaker 1: get locked up. Now this is this is your story
Speaker 1: or no, no, it's not my story. So the script
Speaker 1: was already done and it was most of it was
Speaker 1: already shot before I came on board. So they wanted
Speaker 1: me to executive produce it and to come on and
Speaker 1: amplify the message of the movie because I speak to
Speaker 1: that anyway about social justice, reform and UM and restoration process,
Speaker 1: the restorative process. Wow wow, so um so, so how
Speaker 1: did that process happen? Like someone just reached out or Yeah,
Speaker 1: they reached out to me, and then once I've seen
Speaker 1: a little bit of the movie, I was like, this
Speaker 1: makes total same to cut the movie. Yeah, some of
Speaker 1: it was shot. Yeah, but Jeffrey Wright being I would
Speaker 1: say one of the best actors of our just to
Speaker 1: do the play Malcolm X, People's people people that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's on West World. Yeah, incredibly, People's Shaft, right, That's
Speaker 1: what I knew anything James, A couple of James Bond
Speaker 1: movies as well of Jesus okay and so so so.
Speaker 1: How so this movie that came to you, they asked
Speaker 1: you to be a part of it. You read the
Speaker 1: script and that's what convinces you. I've seen I've seen it.
Speaker 1: They had some shots, so I was actually able to
Speaker 1: see some of the film. Okay, what's the next movie?
Speaker 1: You said, Yeah, it's a Hard Truth. So it's a
Speaker 1: part two to that. And we got the inmates actually
Speaker 1: interviewing themselves. So the difference the reason why O G
Speaker 1: is so special, other than the story and the actors.
Speaker 1: That's the only time movie has ever been shot in
Speaker 1: the prison, and over a hundred fifty of the actors
Speaker 1: are all inmates. So if we get best actor and
Speaker 1: best supporting actor. The best supporting actor is gonna give me,
Speaker 1: which has never had. And they get paid as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah they got paid. Yeah, I mean it's a very
Speaker 1: small feed, like when they get paid in prison. They
Speaker 1: got paying. Jeffrey Wright took the same paid for his
Speaker 1: for his role as well. He wanted to get paid
Speaker 1: like the inmates. He's all was the call um better
Speaker 1: the actor. It was tough because he's playing an inmate
Speaker 1: alongside inmates. So he took it as a challenge to wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. Now that's what the golden line. You
Speaker 1: got the fourth come on sleep pop bottle. We got
Speaker 1: the fourth for November. Fourth for November. Yeah, we launched
Speaker 1: actually coming back out in November. Of the ones It's Cold,
Speaker 1: come On, come on Together Here. I five different niggas
Speaker 1: of different generations. They all said that Mr Lea, you're
Speaker 1: in the movie. One thing is in the seventies sixties,
Speaker 1: everybody grew with Mr Lee Clear handball. So yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: definitely play handball. I'm not called Loe to you. That
Speaker 1: was the one thing guys I was I was like,
Speaker 1: good at jail, was like I was like, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I was the only thing, Like I was the only
Speaker 1: black nigger that played basketball handball. Like you know, if
Speaker 1: you play hairball, you got that, you play basketball, that's it.
Speaker 1: But I was the only dude that could play ball
Speaker 1: because I was, like, fucking I'm black Hairporter Weekend. Speaking
Speaker 1: of that, what do you think of when you hear
Speaker 1: this twenty one savage thing? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: What the deportation? Deportation? Yeah, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: much about it, but obviously I don't know if he
Speaker 1: was born here or not, so I don't know the
Speaker 1: legality of it. But I mean I'm all for him
Speaker 1: staying here because because you your background a similar to that, right,
Speaker 1: Like I'm actually standing in Puerto Weekend, Okay, but you're
Speaker 1: from the US. Okay, I'm time of s Puerto Rico. Okay, cool, cool, damn.
Speaker 1: But that that that struck me kind of like um,
Speaker 1: kind of like hard because but what he so he
Speaker 1: was actually born out the kind I believe he was.
Speaker 1: Suppose he outstayed his visa supposed me. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: using a feeling I think gainst him, which he had expunged.
Speaker 1: That is what I had read. I would have bet
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand, like you just say a two hundred THO.
Speaker 1: He's from the UK on Atlanta, I would have bet
Speaker 1: all on Atlanta. Yo, this guy he's ill. But yeah,
Speaker 1: God blessed because Slick Rick went through the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's very truth. So he totally forgot about I remember
Speaker 1: Slick Rick's wife when I was on radio, she was
Speaker 1: doing a whole campaign. I forgot about that. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were able to figure that out. I don't know how
Speaker 1: they figured out. Slick Ricker was the first hip hop
Speaker 1: guy that got the port. Yeah, and French Montana just
Speaker 1: worked your ship out like he's good. He's I think,
Speaker 1: you know, stopping were good and I messed up sound
Speaker 1: French Montanna he just got his his his ship and
Speaker 1: you think you think it's becoming harder because of Trump.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to get political, but I just we
Speaker 1: had it was right. I mean it could be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got the he's at the forefront of that Trump.
Speaker 1: We need a pardon that right word. You know. You
Speaker 1: know what I thought about Tom Kanye, we need a
Speaker 1: part for you know, the same something I thought about that.
Speaker 1: I said, that's how Trump is gonna be hip hop accepted,
Speaker 1: like he's gonna come and just release twenty one and
Speaker 1: just like I'm just saying like I'm just saying, he
Speaker 1: released him, big meach. You know, if he releases him
Speaker 1: and Patty Mason, Nika's got nothing to say, man, let
Speaker 1: me stop. No no no, that would be a reach though,
Speaker 1: that would be that, that would be I think that
Speaker 1: prison reform, you know, with Meek is um a forming
Speaker 1: with Jay How important is that? I mean big time.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know what's happening, and all the people
Speaker 1: of color that's suffering from that, is the communities that
Speaker 1: suffering from that. So if you've got somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, to amplify our message, and somebody
Speaker 1: that looks like us, that's talking to the youth, talking
Speaker 1: to the people that's in power, saying that something needs
Speaker 1: to change, then it's you have a high higher chance
Speaker 1: to get that mess and you cross. You know, you've
Speaker 1: got j Robert Krass, the owner of seventy six is
Speaker 1: Meek at the forefront of but it's really Meek sting.
Speaker 1: They're just supporting them. That's that's um Um. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see that. I'd like to see the growth in
Speaker 1: in the youth I'd like to see him hanging out
Speaker 1: with Robert Kraft like that a lot. Meek has grown
Speaker 1: a lot. Man made a matter of conversation other than
Speaker 1: him telling that you know, he just made twenty million
Speaker 1: or seven months. You know, you know what I'm telling
Speaker 1: me about what what he's doing, Uh, you know for
Speaker 1: the for the communities and stuff, because he went through that.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to go through an extenuating circumstance,
Speaker 1: to go through some hardship to have to come and
Speaker 1: do that. But you know you learn from that. I did,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm sure you did. Well,
Speaker 1: let's make some noise for what do you feel us
Speaker 1: necessary for our culture to continue to grow because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like like we said that
Speaker 1: our first interview, you guys were like the first people
Speaker 1: that developed luxury marketing. Yeah, like me, Like you know
Speaker 1: when you put the rap on the beds them, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like you know, the E class like you know,
Speaker 1: the classes considered a low classes back then, that ship
Speaker 1: was considered Like I asked, so, how do how do
Speaker 1: you develop that type of mind state? Like like I
Speaker 1: think it came from you know, when we were kids.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Rather teenage and stuff always
Speaker 1: wanted what the older kids wanted. I mean it had
Speaker 1: rather so you know, in our neighborhoods, it was always
Speaker 1: the older hustles that we looked up to, and we
Speaker 1: wanted to do what they did, but do it better.
Speaker 1: So now that we had some money, especially some legal money,
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Speaker 1: the best birthday didn't come on, pull your shot, come on,
Speaker 1: let your going, let's go, let's go, let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let do we do? But actually, let's talk about that,
Speaker 1: because that's when I actually got introduced to this uh
Speaker 1: daily on the first time you drank it there, yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: get out of here. I thought you was far fun
Speaker 1: about the surprise, it's smooth, it's nothing if that's not
Speaker 1: to say it now because Puff actually sucked up the surprise.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, words because when I was with him the
Speaker 1: night before, he was like, yo, what we're doing? Them?
Speaker 1: Are we're gonna tell this to I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I surprise that. I'm like, He's like, come on.
Speaker 1: That was crazy because we used to have a meeting
Speaker 1: before that. If he was it was like, you don't
Speaker 1: get a drunk, so they weren't me. It didn't happen.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I'm so glad because
Speaker 1: I can't hold a surprise. But but this was the
Speaker 1: most a luxurious This was the most illest dinner. Like
Speaker 1: people really came out and show you love, Like like,
Speaker 1: how did that feel? Like? I mean it felt good man,
Speaker 1: especially everybody going around saying something good and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really celebrate my birthday. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I celebrate, you know, my birthday. You know, you
Speaker 1: feel like it's your birthday. You don't really want too much.
Speaker 1: But when somebody else as you could to celebrate. So
Speaker 1: I just got used to that. We're gonna change that up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start celebrating your mother. So you deserve it.
Speaker 1: God damn it. Now I learned when I was in Mexico.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the dinner, but I learned when
Speaker 1: I was in Mexico that real to kill a drinkers
Speaker 1: drink it like that they sip to killer. Because I
Speaker 1: used to always think to kill it was a setback
Speaker 1: like a drink, shot drink if you pour in the
Speaker 1: shot glass, but you can said, I mean anything, you
Speaker 1: can sit or but you go straight to the best
Speaker 1: when you do it as a shot, right, you go
Speaker 1: straight to My birthday was it was? I was in
Speaker 1: the shot mood and the next day you did a
Speaker 1: straight to kill her too. What was that ship you
Speaker 1: had at um the mallable place? Oh mescal me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like tequila. Yeah it's not. No, it's
Speaker 1: not to kill us. And it's like the family, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's different, just like how this gin tequila mescal
Speaker 1: it's its own category. So let me ask you, why
Speaker 1: do you drink straight, strong fucking drinks like I guess
Speaker 1: something this used to it. So getting back to that,
Speaker 1: to that, to that, to the dinner. It was so great,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean a lot of people in
Speaker 1: this industry. That's what drink champs about, dream champs about
Speaker 1: giving people their flowers, you know why they alive and
Speaker 1: and give it like, um, this was this was so dope. People.
Speaker 1: We were going outside and it was so crazy to
Speaker 1: see like these these billionaire people without security, like the
Speaker 1: security was going to with the Papa rosy like the
Speaker 1: fun out up. But they were chilling like this ship
Speaker 1: was this ship was dope and and and this is
Speaker 1: your friends. You said, you told me something that was
Speaker 1: very interesting on the phone, uh, like like last one
Speaker 1: or something said, you know, this is the first time
Speaker 1: you and Papa actually spoke so all these years spoke
Speaker 1: about I spoke up actually last year, Grammy, the first
Speaker 1: time we had a conversation. And they're both from Harland.
Speaker 1: What's going on? You know? What's crazy. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not like I've seen him around Hall. Yeah. We had
Speaker 1: a conversation and then he had ca and back. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, me and Bigg has never spoken.
Speaker 1: And we exchanged numbers and he was like when he
Speaker 1: when I come to l A, he was like, YO,
Speaker 1: make sure you holler at me. And I've seen him
Speaker 1: at that at the Oscar party and I didn't call him.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, you thought I was drunk, but
Speaker 1: you didn't call me, so you know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: end up hooking up after that. We went to dinner
Speaker 1: and went to his crib and stuff in his office
Speaker 1: and ship. We had a good time. They had a
Speaker 1: good relationship and you know now we're now we're friends.
Speaker 1: Got damn yeah, man, But I don't know if you know, man,
Speaker 1: this it was like it was Kelly rolling right there,
Speaker 1: it's Beyonce. It was more people in the photo of
Speaker 1: the photo by itself that wasn't even happening, That wasn't
Speaker 1: like there were certain people that didn't. I thought it
Speaker 1: was powerful by yourself. You know, that's something powerful and
Speaker 1: and and how does it feel that to know that
Speaker 1: and all actually wality if you really wanted to like
Speaker 1: make something happen, Like with something the biggest, you can
Speaker 1: actually do it like there's a lot of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're right, I never thought about it like that, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying even after dinner, it was just good to
Speaker 1: see everybody around together, Ship celebrating it was it was truthfully,
Speaker 1: it was a great It was a great thing, man,
Speaker 1: A right, that was. It was very much appreciated, especially
Speaker 1: tend tend speech ten speeches definitely figures because I killed
Speaker 1: you now one of the best stories I ever ever
Speaker 1: one of my it's too He's got two of the
Speaker 1: best stories of my life. One is when I'm the
Speaker 1: recent one I told you where I've seen him went
Speaker 1: to the jay Z concert and I just seen him
Speaker 1: looking and at first he wasn't drinking. That's what Shawn
Speaker 1: was there too, Yeah little okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, um,
Speaker 1: and I've seen he wasn't drinking. And Jake came out
Speaker 1: and he just hit me on my shoulder and I
Speaker 1: was like, who man, you know, Biggs ain't aggressive like that,
Speaker 1: so big was hitting me man hard? Ship let me look.
Speaker 1: So I looked and he was just so happy seeing
Speaker 1: jay Z walk out on stage and to me. That's
Speaker 1: the definition of real friendship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know any of y'all listen and then y'all
Speaker 1: understand what the funk I just said. This man flew
Speaker 1: to see his homeboy. You got to see his home
Speaker 1: on stage. It was just so happy. You know, he's
Speaker 1: getting the money over this, you know, the toy like that,
Speaker 1: But the way he was so happy, it was like
Speaker 1: you felt like you felt like like you was picking
Speaker 1: up the bag right there. And I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: that was that was a beautiful moment for me. Like
Speaker 1: just to see that there's people out here like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I know where we
Speaker 1: came from and where we started from, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And to see that it got this big,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, to see him up there
Speaker 1: and ship and killing I mean, you know, Jay, his
Speaker 1: feet used to be planted in the middle of the stage.
Speaker 1: This nigg is running up and down a hundred feet,
Speaker 1: going up and down side by side and seeing that
Speaker 1: alongside be you know what I'm saying, doing something incredible.
Speaker 1: It was. It was It was a touching moment, man.
Speaker 1: And to see how big not only that the company,
Speaker 1: everybody that came through us, the legacy, you know, it
Speaker 1: was like everything that came together was right there as well. Definitely,
Speaker 1: like the bag isn't always money something I talked about
Speaker 1: the relationship. It's not about the transaction. But I saw
Speaker 1: it like so sinceris like like I never had seen
Speaker 1: nothing like that in my life. Was just like sitting there.
Speaker 1: He was just so happy, and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I want I want my friends to be successful to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, ship, Yeah, you guys gotta
Speaker 1: step in up. Another one of my favorite stories was
Speaker 1: I remember I remember this is right before you got
Speaker 1: into the trouble or whatever, weeks ago, and you would
Speaker 1: watched every hour of Obvious in game and every game.
Speaker 1: Come on, I know, you go to the the biggest house.
Speaker 1: I hit him like, yo, I'm home. I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I'll come up with breaking saying. Gria and I swear
Speaker 1: to going. We watched like at least nineteen our lives
Speaker 1: and games together, and then one day we went to
Speaker 1: the club. Obviously walked right by us, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: say with something. Obviously he was like, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if I like him as a person. He's so
Speaker 1: much sense to me because just think about it, like,
Speaker 1: of course you like a person, don't mean that that's
Speaker 1: who they are in real life. So he had cut
Speaker 1: that off from the beginning, like he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you're you're absolutely the person that
Speaker 1: you was like on television. Can does not have to
Speaker 1: necessarily be that that person. But now you's cool. Yeah, yeah, goddamn,
Speaker 1: it makes some noise for that man. Come on, come on, now,
Speaker 1: you already know we had we had some of the
Speaker 1: most famous battles and drinking you guys. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta hear this. Oh he's just because like like he's
Speaker 1: like cool, calm and collective, but he's a fucking animal, right,
Speaker 1: He's a drink. He's a drink. Cham for sure. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a battle, no, it's not a battle,
Speaker 1: but in a mind he always secretly battle, I guess
Speaker 1: because always wins. Listen and London anywhere, I'm still staying
Speaker 1: and drinking the last It's very true, it's very true.
Speaker 1: But in London it was. This is the most interesting
Speaker 1: one was in London because um, that's when you guys
Speaker 1: had armor there, correct, yeah, these guys had armadale and
Speaker 1: by the way I promoted, Remember yeah, I didn't the
Speaker 1: crime should have brought it, come on, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: So I'm supposed to bring that. So where in uh
Speaker 1: this this, this, this, this this this uh indoor indoor
Speaker 1: pool in London. It's a house with the indoor pool.
Speaker 1: So I'm should I've never seen before. But for some
Speaker 1: reason they're like, yo, let's go, and we go. I'm
Speaker 1: told about this is shot for shot to the very
Speaker 1: last shot and then there was one last shot and
Speaker 1: then Temple took and there's one last shot and then
Speaker 1: Temple took it. And then he looked at me and
Speaker 1: he said there's no more. I said there's no more,
Speaker 1: and he felt like open. He felt big hit me
Speaker 1: like and I was like, yeah, I didn't do this
Speaker 1: all the top of me while he doesn't do this
Speaker 1: all the time. But I was like, yeah, man, do
Speaker 1: you think, um, you think Rock and Peer would be immolated? Like? Um,
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough right now to do something, to
Speaker 1: build the build a business that big and to have
Speaker 1: everything under it be successful the way it was. I
Speaker 1: want to say that it can't happen, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. It was just a different time in space.
Speaker 1: And when you say you like you have the liquor,
Speaker 1: you had all the executives. So you think about Eve
Speaker 1: pm who's at I C a emanual a Capital, shariatt
Speaker 1: Interscope Latres at Universal all of the Atlantic. Now she's
Speaker 1: a Capital's executive vice president. She just got bumped up. Goddamn.
Speaker 1: I got so many employees, even everybody went off to
Speaker 1: do great things. Even the family tree that was put
Speaker 1: out right, I think, who was it that trying to
Speaker 1: dispute it? But a lot of people didn't understand the
Speaker 1: breakdown of the family tree. When id flex talking it
Speaker 1: right now, I totally forgotten. So like, do you want
Speaker 1: to explain that a little bit? Like, yeah, the family tree?
Speaker 1: Because Forbes was doing an article on me and they
Speaker 1: wanted to show a diagram of what we started and
Speaker 1: how it was a snowball effect that created all these
Speaker 1: other different either exacts, businesses, careers, you know. So we
Speaker 1: had and it was hard because there was a lot
Speaker 1: of people before us that could have been on that tree,
Speaker 1: right Claude can't Kenny Burns, like these guys, Eric Gotti.
Speaker 1: They didn't come from rocket Feller. They were pre Rocketfeller
Speaker 1: that helped us build these companies that really couldn't fit
Speaker 1: on it because I couldn't put them under that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I just kind of put
Speaker 1: what we did, what we started and from there. But
Speaker 1: and even with that, because it was maybe the last
Speaker 1: two days and it was last day, it was a deadline,
Speaker 1: and I think I added a couple of more things
Speaker 1: and I was just like that and put it out.
Speaker 1: So with Flex when he was talking about that, I
Speaker 1: didn't understand what he was saying, or maybe he didn't
Speaker 1: understand what was going on. So kind I think he
Speaker 1: exputed to be like exped easily. You see a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know how close people like if you
Speaker 1: look at street is watching, I'm the only artist outside
Speaker 1: of rocket Feller that was on the streets watching. You
Speaker 1: look at the professional I'm on it. Uh So I
Speaker 1: had a relationship. So a lot of people don't really
Speaker 1: have the movie, say property movies I started, and one
Speaker 1: of them I wasn't paid for. I was in um
Speaker 1: that day with the other ship paper. So just then,
Speaker 1: boy was like so a lot of people didn't understand
Speaker 1: because I know when I spoke to Flex. He was like,
Speaker 1: how can Rocket Feller saying? I was like, yo, Flex,
Speaker 1: I was actually been down with him like ten years,
Speaker 1: Like I mean a lot of people didn't know it,
Speaker 1: but if you look at the album, yeah yeah, so
Speaker 1: a lot of people. But I get reflectors coming from
Speaker 1: But I just let him know, like listen that we
Speaker 1: bring up me like, yeah, incorrect, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of inconsistencies, but maybe he just
Speaker 1: don't know the whole truthren right, right right. So with
Speaker 1: that being said, you we we we You ever looked
Speaker 1: at another record label, it was like you they remind
Speaker 1: me of how we used to do it, Like is
Speaker 1: this someone close to you guys? Or that really? I
Speaker 1: mean because of I mean puff was he did. He
Speaker 1: did a lot in the space that was like a
Speaker 1: little bit before y'all right, yeah, not nothing after about
Speaker 1: I'm like with U K and um yeah yeah, Q
Speaker 1: and UH and coach K is doing over there titely
Speaker 1: T Yeah, I totally forgot about that. Yeah they're rocking
Speaker 1: over there too, so yeah t D and UH coach
Speaker 1: coaching P they're killing them right even um um Hybridge.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm Q P and M. They're killing it
Speaker 1: to Yeah, and you imagine I'm heavy your opinion. It's
Speaker 1: been a whole bunch of this talk going on in
Speaker 1: the industry, um and the world. That's frequently used as
Speaker 1: coach of voting. Yeah, what what do you? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do your stance on a vo I never really
Speaker 1: thought about I hear the word throwing around a lot,
Speaker 1: but I never really gave a thought or what it
Speaker 1: meant or this and that. Truthfully, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many people would have different definitions for it. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really look at it or say
Speaker 1: this person is a part of stealing the culture or
Speaker 1: doing this to the culture, this and that. To me
Speaker 1: the coach, it's a match culture right now. So for
Speaker 1: in order for rap or hip hop to grow and
Speaker 1: had to grow outside of it's a media base, right
Speaker 1: and for it to get that big, it's not all inclusive, right,
Speaker 1: there's skating, basketball, this sock like everybody listens to the music.
Speaker 1: That's why it grew so big. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: just mashed culture right now. So if somebody's taking advantage,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a color thing. It could be
Speaker 1: a black person or white person, if that's the case,
Speaker 1: to say, if they're a culture vote or not, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. What do you what do you think about
Speaker 1: that word? I mean, I agree with what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's just complicated, like it's just who determines
Speaker 1: who is the culture vulture, right, because I mean you
Speaker 1: have to go into that person's history where they come from.
Speaker 1: You don't know what their life entails that that makes
Speaker 1: them a part of the culture or not. Right, that's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's true what you're thinking. I have no
Speaker 1: idea to tell the truth, because, um, if a person
Speaker 1: comes from outside of our culture quote unquote, and and
Speaker 1: it's just as dedicated as me, then I gotta i
Speaker 1: gotta show him some love, like as a person kind
Speaker 1: of made me. You know. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: because I don't want to like selfish myself out and
Speaker 1: say like, well, if a person made me a certain
Speaker 1: amount of money or put me in a position, then
Speaker 1: you know, how could they be a coachable I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really get it. I don't really know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, um, I try to,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to be enlightened, like to even maybe
Speaker 1: maybe people have differentiating business and culture and that's where
Speaker 1: it gets money. Because if that's the case, you could
Speaker 1: you could be from you could be from Gagade Thrown
Speaker 1: when they're coming and doing a hip hop and that's
Speaker 1: the city, you know, being a culture more right, You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying from different whole different cultures. I'm
Speaker 1: saying people could do dirty business moves that might be
Speaker 1: smart business moves but might hurt this individual that persons
Speaker 1: like you're a culture vulture, right, but you could be
Speaker 1: just straight up the culture. It's not about business. You're
Speaker 1: not involved in the industry side of things. And you
Speaker 1: know that's that's the where it gets a little bit
Speaker 1: of confusing, Right. What do you feel like when because
Speaker 1: you knew early Kan yet you don't know? I don't
Speaker 1: know if you do, but I haven't seen you around
Speaker 1: crazy can yet like that too much? But I don't
Speaker 1: mean to call them crazy like that, but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, you know Magna Kanye, Um, what
Speaker 1: do you feel about Magna Kanye? Because I mean, you
Speaker 1: knew the South side of Chicago, Kanye, You I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seems like a lot of confusion. So I
Speaker 1: mean he admitted to having a problem, right, so he
Speaker 1: sees you, Yeah, he's bipolar and things like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with a lot of stuff that he's saying.
Speaker 1: All he's been doing um in the public with Trump
Speaker 1: and things like that, but I don't know what's reasoning
Speaker 1: for it. Like you said, I didn't have a conversation.
Speaker 1: Last time I've seen him was in Paris and at
Speaker 1: Virgils at the Louis Vuitton show. So I've seen him
Speaker 1: and gave him hug, told him I loved him. He
Speaker 1: turned around and said I love you too. So I
Speaker 1: just like, look, I'm proud of you, man, I'm proud
Speaker 1: of all of this. You know, look what we did
Speaker 1: and how it trickled down to even what Virgil is doing.
Speaker 1: And that was it. That was that, you know, the
Speaker 1: end of the conversations. You ever saw that, you ever
Speaker 1: saw that he would be in like this type of
Speaker 1: weird position where the hood love him, like we're gonna
Speaker 1: still buying sneakers, but we're like kind of like confused
Speaker 1: on how to support somebody who supports Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are confused, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because he's putting out different messages, so until it's something
Speaker 1: that's clear cut, it's gonna stay like that. What would
Speaker 1: you take on the super Bowl? Because I mean I
Speaker 1: wanted to. I wanted to Watchestery tell you the truth
Speaker 1: and it was I'm not mad that that New England one.
Speaker 1: You know, it's good to see history, to be a partner.
Speaker 1: You know what I meant by that was like the
Speaker 1: entertainment part because I don't like it. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't like you? Who's the Adam Yeah yeah rox song?
Speaker 1: Though I saw that, I was like, alright, col and
Speaker 1: the double change. I didn't check people that chokers? He
Speaker 1: is that a culture? Big boy, big boy? That was?
Speaker 1: That was okay, big boy Cuddy Brown. I wished we
Speaker 1: would to see more of that, like to give big
Speaker 1: boy that whatever man he should have might be Travis
Speaker 1: Scott have a minute clip you know what you're missing?
Speaker 1: And I've got more time than that? Was it last
Speaker 1: year the year before? I would I wanted to see
Speaker 1: more of that. And you don't get paid for the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I just found that. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: now you don't. You don't get paid for the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They'll take care of you, no idea. Yeah, no, I'll
Speaker 1: take care. NFL won't pay it. Yeah, if I don't
Speaker 1: play Pepsi probably no, no, no, you don't get paid
Speaker 1: for the actually halftime show. Yeah, you know you get
Speaker 1: one more. Yeah. Yeah, it's mostly don't check this and
Speaker 1: we can't come back. Yeah. I mean listen, now, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. You say Pepsi. That might be, but
Speaker 1: it's not from the super Bowl. It's not because owns
Speaker 1: a half time Yeah, but it's not paid. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think. I think they take
Speaker 1: care and travel your head, the stage tribes, your tour bus.
Speaker 1: But you're giving you and then they they're giving you
Speaker 1: a look, so they feel like, I mean, that's what essentially,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I heard. That's what Jane turned
Speaker 1: it down was because I definitely not one. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it because of Kaepernick and Jay don't
Speaker 1: do nothing for money like that. Like, if he wants
Speaker 1: to do it, he'll do it if you didn't paid
Speaker 1: for him. And that's but I've seen him turn on
Speaker 1: a lot of ship for some big amounts. That's great.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think you ever think Jay would be
Speaker 1: at this level because now again you started for the
Speaker 1: bottom bottom bottle. Boy. No, I didn't think it would
Speaker 1: last this long. That's honest. That's like a motherfucker. You know.
Speaker 1: We would have a good run. Yeah, at the time
Speaker 1: that the average lifespan of five years three albums back,
Speaker 1: so it was three you know what I mean if
Speaker 1: you come last that long, Remember, artists would get one single.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't even get to your next single and you
Speaker 1: out of it. But in the last when we talked
Speaker 1: to you before, didn't you say you were the one
Speaker 1: that didn't believe him Originally? Yeah, originally don't Yeah, I didn't. Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't particularly like Jay's music. It was after the
Speaker 1: battle with DMX, but yeah, I would. I didn't want
Speaker 1: have thought that he would have lasted twenty something years
Speaker 1: and still be this relevant today versus like what's free? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great shot, Tom. Mostly it's about to get crazy. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so don't let me getting you guys have jam Right,
Speaker 1: you guys are all three partners. What was the moment
Speaker 1: where he was like, wow, this is because it's because
Speaker 1: everything was based on Jay at first as an artist, right,
Speaker 1: and it's equal partnership sorry. It was equal partnerships with
Speaker 1: with the artists, you and Dame, with just Zing being
Speaker 1: he's the artist in equal partners What was the moment
Speaker 1: where he was like, you know what, this as an
Speaker 1: entity is going to work? Reasonable? That reasonable? That the
Speaker 1: first one? Yeah, I mean, you know we're listening to
Speaker 1: the music. You know, is when you hit the album
Speaker 1: before anybody else said it hasn't hit the word, the
Speaker 1: world hasn't heard it. But you know you're sitting on
Speaker 1: this classic. You know what I'm saying, So you just
Speaker 1: can't wait till this ship get out. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The artists you've meant originally the sound the
Speaker 1: original yeah originally yeah, but we're just friends. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying that to make that album from that artist to
Speaker 1: he has some songs already, so like coming to Age
Speaker 1: was one of the up older songs on the album.
Speaker 1: That and uh we got the ones that like three
Speaker 1: songs that clocked it. All the clock songs were old,
Speaker 1: old songs, I think, And I think he mentioned this,
Speaker 1: why they sho feel like that? My fellow like what then,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that makes sense? Ship your car learning So
Speaker 1: I actually had this on the riding that blessed it up.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I can't use the go to
Speaker 1: so far, I can't get used to it. I like
Speaker 1: talking about it's a dangerous drinking brother, he said that, man,
Speaker 1: you know who else is it? Like? It's a very
Speaker 1: dangerous faith really, Oh she's she was. She was trying
Speaker 1: to drink us on the table. I'm talking my she
Speaker 1: that recently. Yeah, I'm telling my new cameras are round.
Speaker 1: She just just drinking and drink. I'm like, yo, come on,
Speaker 1: she was drinking. She's she's vocals like that, Like I
Speaker 1: can't lay. Vocals is drunk. That ship is real. So
Speaker 1: so um, you come home from jail, people don't even
Speaker 1: like hear hear from you for like six or eight months,
Speaker 1: no one really hears from you. People hearing you all.
Speaker 1: No one one sees you. You come out and you hit,
Speaker 1: you hit the scene everyone. Because I gotta reiterate this.
Speaker 1: I know I touched on a little bit before, but
Speaker 1: the word was Dame dash Uh. When you was away,
Speaker 1: Dame dash was going on radio stations. He's promoting. He
Speaker 1: was like, niggas ain't writing bigs and niggas ain't seeing bigs.
Speaker 1: You ever, you ever got the word that that that
Speaker 1: you felt like that, yeah, I mean him spoke about it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I told him, I said, look,
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way. So you telling the public
Speaker 1: that seems like it's coming from me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So we had a conversation. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want people to think that because if I
Speaker 1: signed somebody, I don't sign them, and saying, look, if
Speaker 1: I ever go to jail, I need you to be
Speaker 1: there for me. It's a business move, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So nobody owed me anything. We paid somebody
Speaker 1: to make an album and I was it right, So
Speaker 1: nobody owes me anything. No, no, no, it's real. But
Speaker 1: that was the That was the So what was the
Speaker 1: first reaction to when people see you coming back in
Speaker 1: the business? People see the first time was when I
Speaker 1: had a fourth November because because people don't really know
Speaker 1: who you would, I don't know if you would like Dann,
Speaker 1: I don't know you jail, I don't know, but it's
Speaker 1: not I don't think it's a good thing. Those are
Speaker 1: both my brothers. What beautiful. So from then to now,
Speaker 1: those are both my brothers. Whether they do something, I
Speaker 1: don't agree with them. Sometimes I don't agree with my family, right,
Speaker 1: so still family. We built something together and we created
Speaker 1: history together. Nobody could take that away from us. So
Speaker 1: if somebody's doing something that I don't, I don't need Rew,
Speaker 1: I probably just not. I won't be around at that
Speaker 1: that bad energy, but it doesn't take away to love
Speaker 1: and what we built and started to get. Goddamn, that
Speaker 1: was so smooth under it. That's a real nigga ship man.
Speaker 1: That's some real negga ship this in this day of
Speaker 1: click bait. But before you go there, I think you're
Speaker 1: talking about the cloning line still first, Okay, yes, I
Speaker 1: want to what the inspiration behind the closing November? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: well that was in existence already and I spoke to
Speaker 1: somebody who was doing it and I just came and
Speaker 1: financed it and became a partner. So since then, um,
Speaker 1: I acquired the whole thing and then I have new partners. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're dropping as a whole new season. Yeah in November.
Speaker 1: But back to what you're saying. When people first seen
Speaker 1: it was that and then it was at the Kanye
Speaker 1: um That's Square Garden. That was the first time I've
Speaker 1: seen Jay Kanye and um, yeah, a lot of people. Actually,
Speaker 1: how was that? It was funny because people always said,
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen when you see and I
Speaker 1: said where everybody had probably laugh And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: We all just started laughing before we said the work.
Speaker 1: So we just laugh gave each other hugs and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know. We talked for a bit and then we
Speaker 1: end up listening to Kanye's music and then I've seen
Speaker 1: them coming out and he actually was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to support you on the clothing line. I heard
Speaker 1: what you was doing, so he must have been paying attention. Yeah, Kanye,
Speaker 1: And then under how all Redo ninety six? Yeah, Redo,
Speaker 1: which was Rock ninety six, So that's a yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it was Rock ninety six. I just changed the redo.
Speaker 1: But that's a luxury line and I use it as
Speaker 1: a special design unit just to collaborate on the luxury level.
Speaker 1: And you gotta like Barnies and stuff like that. Yeah, Barnies.
Speaker 1: It was in Luispia, Roman Italy and also revolved. So
Speaker 1: how how dope was it? Because I remember that pop
Speaker 1: up the first Although you said you see each other
Speaker 1: in the image, g I don't think you have two
Speaker 1: pictures correct, Me and Kane know the pictures that came
Speaker 1: out like jail no, no, no, I didn't take any
Speaker 1: pictures like the first picture we ever saw. It was
Speaker 1: at the Problem to pop Up in l A. So
Speaker 1: how did that feel like? You know, like him just
Speaker 1: coming out of support because you know he didn't have to,
Speaker 1: you know, not, you're right. And then he hit me
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, I'm in Mexico or something,
Speaker 1: but I'm flying in to come to the you know,
Speaker 1: in the pop up. So he flew in, came and
Speaker 1: then we I don't know, it seemed like a hundred
Speaker 1: bottles we popped used to spade and then we just
Speaker 1: had a good time, you know, just laughing and push.
Speaker 1: It was there, jest ski you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: a lot of family hip hop. You know, I mean
Speaker 1: to see everybody together. But that's what I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to bring that that that
Speaker 1: old family atmosphere back taking the whole. This is me
Speaker 1: just not knowing the Rockefeller symbolism. Is that the same
Speaker 1: thing you're talking about? To pop up? Yeah? You know
Speaker 1: what in the so Rock ninety six was about that
Speaker 1: because we were celebrating the twenty years. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: It's not going to be just about that aesthetic. So
Speaker 1: I have reasonable doubt that's more of a merch line
Speaker 1: s Street where that speaks to more about what we
Speaker 1: created in the beginning and on our business tip. Does
Speaker 1: that ever cause any friction with anybody that was partners
Speaker 1: with you at that time? Or is that freeing three
Speaker 1: for you to do what you Everybody could do whatever
Speaker 1: they want, like any of your partners, because you guys
Speaker 1: were all eager partners. Okay, because in Armadale, you you
Speaker 1: is it true you came up with the mix or
Speaker 1: something like that, came up with the name, uh, the
Speaker 1: deal and uh and also the um yeah, the liquid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I picked that out. But you weren't a part
Speaker 1: of rocket Ware everything. Oh yeah, so rocket where I
Speaker 1: used that. That was a marketing arm. So I just
Speaker 1: did it all across marketing with the music and in
Speaker 1: the company. What do you mean? It was a marketing arm,
Speaker 1: but we cross marketed everything. If you remember all the companies,
Speaker 1: we had a sea because I worked the labels side,
Speaker 1: and I had to work all those brands exactly right.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask this question because the
Speaker 1: fans would kill me if not. And everyone always is
Speaker 1: curious of this strong brotherhood. You know, you got you
Speaker 1: Um who have your own crew, came in with your
Speaker 1: own crew. We got Dame who has his own crew,
Speaker 1: came in his own crew, and got Jay as zwn
Speaker 1: crew came on his own crew, and this big conglomerate.
Speaker 1: Everybody always they speculate what was the breakup or what
Speaker 1: like what was the actual thing? Like like if you
Speaker 1: look at these blogs, they always say, well this is
Speaker 1: like you know, Star say this, and these people say this,
Speaker 1: and then Inquirer say this, and the thing about it.
Speaker 1: When we did that Dale in ninety seven, the company
Speaker 1: was always gonna be sold, so people think it's a breakup,
Speaker 1: but it was being sold anyway. Yeah, so just like
Speaker 1: they had a formula put in, they knew they were selling.
Speaker 1: The only reason they extended because we were selling so
Speaker 1: many records, So we was actually pushing the number that
Speaker 1: Death Jam was going to get up because we were
Speaker 1: selling so many records at the time with Rockefeller. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we knew in ninety seven we were selling in two
Speaker 1: thousand two. The only thing is we did an extension
Speaker 1: for three more years. So that's why I went from
Speaker 1: two thousand to to two thousand five. And I think
Speaker 1: with Ormkanto and yeah before yeah, so that was the
Speaker 1: tail and of it. The dale was up, so you know,
Speaker 1: so that's why Jay death Jam and then we saw
Speaker 1: the d d MG. He wasn't rocket filling anymore. He
Speaker 1: wasn't you know. Everybody just went in there their own thing.
Speaker 1: But the theory is that it was Leo Colms, right.
Speaker 1: I think I think Leo gets that unfairly. But that's
Speaker 1: just me looking from the outside in. Um, that's that's
Speaker 1: the theory. The theory is Leo Combs did something to
Speaker 1: break you guys up. That's one of the theories. It's
Speaker 1: fifteen million theories. By the way. Yeah, I got I got,
Speaker 1: I got, I gotta hit. I think I think I
Speaker 1: heard in the movie. Made it confusing too, definitely too.
Speaker 1: When it came out, we actually had a meeting. He
Speaker 1: was like, YEO, where's this stuff coming from? Because it
Speaker 1: was actually on the news saying that we were breaking up.
Speaker 1: So Jay Caleb, it just like yo, y'all saying. We're
Speaker 1: like yo, now you're saying it. So we're laughing with
Speaker 1: each other because at the same time we're making the movie,
Speaker 1: but none of us has going where it came from. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, so people don't know about those meetings and
Speaker 1: we're laughing about it, you know. So it's a bunch
Speaker 1: of theories. So you're saying that Leo cons couldn't have
Speaker 1: been there. I'm not saying that he could have couldn't
Speaker 1: have if I'm just saying that it wasn't the reason
Speaker 1: why Rocket feller this first because we sold the company
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. And then there's another crazy
Speaker 1: rumor right that when Cameron became the pres this is
Speaker 1: this is like this is one of the like the
Speaker 1: illest ones because well he never became the president. Whoa
Speaker 1: dame said that he wanted to the Camax with a
Speaker 1: certain amount of money that he never got and he
Speaker 1: turned it down. So I'm supposed to be king. We
Speaker 1: didn't have Twitter back then, so it was supposed to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, I heard that story from you guys. I've
Speaker 1: never heard that in public. I heard that like I
Speaker 1: heard days say that, and I heard you say that.
Speaker 1: I never heard it in public, though, but you did,
Speaker 1: you did? You did that That had people salty, like
Speaker 1: even like like state property or something like that. You
Speaker 1: want to say that because Beans was about to be
Speaker 1: the president to the president of his Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: gonna be too co presidents that would that would have
Speaker 1: been that would have been crazy. And this is after
Speaker 1: you guys sold it already or not? Okay, right Jesus man,
Speaker 1: that's you got. You got a rich history. Man. I'm
Speaker 1: might take a fucking shot of killer. We don't gotta
Speaker 1: don't want to take the ball. You're taking shot Columbian
Speaker 1: white if you want, I take a shot Columbia White. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm not really ship No, but what is it? Though?
Speaker 1: It's the process before rum It's not what he's like?
Speaker 1: What then? Is that true? This is what Columbia's They
Speaker 1: snip cocaine and then they drink this because the Columbia coach,
Speaker 1: I'm drunk, become wrong the king. This is like you
Speaker 1: know the filter. Look, this is taking you noticed? This
Speaker 1: is not good. Yo. I don't know if you're no Biggs.
Speaker 1: But we celebrate all We celebrate all people. We celebrate
Speaker 1: all champions are CEOs. A little out of this is
Speaker 1: not good. That was not good. It tastes like licorice. Hey,
Speaker 1: don't talk about about my living man. How you know,
Speaker 1: how do you know what talking about? You're talking about
Speaker 1: the time phone party as crazy and so so right
Speaker 1: now Hallam is being like gentrified crazy, like you literally
Speaker 1: can you know go outside and there's someone jogging? Why
Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely different, Like how does how does
Speaker 1: that feel? I mean, you want to neighborhood to be better,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you want the people from
Speaker 1: the community to have some ownership, which isn't happening. So
Speaker 1: I think that's the mishap. A lot of times these
Speaker 1: communities get gentrified, but no one is saying, you know,
Speaker 1: this is what you can do to build a business,
Speaker 1: to own a business, or to do something to be
Speaker 1: a part of this long term, or to try to
Speaker 1: bodies units once they start turning into co ops and condos.
Speaker 1: So that education process need to be there because that's
Speaker 1: what gentrification is, what driving the process of right good
Speaker 1: if there's some ownership, yeah, because right now they're right now,
Speaker 1: right now, little Haiti, they're going through the same thing.
Speaker 1: They taking a little Haiti and they're taking baby Porter
Speaker 1: we go, Baby Porter, we go? What was baby? That's
Speaker 1: what saying back in the day Port reach we are
Speaker 1: right now a little Haiti when which is that's where
Speaker 1: we used to go to all the Zoo nation jams
Speaker 1: and that you couldn't that ship is uh village when wood?
Speaker 1: When Wood? When village? They tearing that ship to the
Speaker 1: but it should be baby poarter a week og. It's
Speaker 1: like Bertha commented, uhould have a birth of comment date, Paul,
Speaker 1: I think they still got that the part, but it's
Speaker 1: not what the flag, it's not there. They got a part.
Speaker 1: We get restaurant though, let me big party. We gat
Speaker 1: restaurant if I see that one restaurants so we only
Speaker 1: the only Spanish restaurant. You go that like it was
Speaker 1: in Malibuok, I'm gonna tell you the South game little.
Speaker 1: When I'm in l A, I eat white, I don't eat.
Speaker 1: I don't eat on the ground. I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: going only Yeah, I'm not gonna like what are you like? So? Yeah? Everything, yes,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of mad at the people who first brought
Speaker 1: me to l A because I felt like I've missed
Speaker 1: like eighteen years in my life. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: going to l A for twenty years, like out of
Speaker 1: seventeen years, this is the only year. Like last year,
Speaker 1: I went to Malibu and I was like, always been
Speaker 1: this ship from the young day and now I'm there
Speaker 1: all the time. I love Valiable. Big up to the
Speaker 1: fires and all that that happened. Man, everybody not big
Speaker 1: up to that. We don't want to pick up fires.
Speaker 1: That's fighters, fire fighters. You know, it's crazy. Daego was here,
Speaker 1: it was it was Impaliable. There was some ship happening
Speaker 1: with the lights and he was like, yo, we kind
Speaker 1: of like predicted these fucking fires, but moving on and
Speaker 1: you and Diego predicted the fires. Yeah, we kept seeing
Speaker 1: it was something on the lights, like when it rains,
Speaker 1: like you thought it would catch fire. Yeah, Like well
Speaker 1: like I can't. And you know the crazy about Valiable
Speaker 1: they don't sell plastic, so they don't sell like well
Speaker 1: they aren't blaming the power company. Yeah, at least I've
Speaker 1: seen it, Like that's that's the old holy ship. I seen.
Speaker 1: Did it? He did it? So, So what's your favorite,
Speaker 1: uh if favorite moments in hip hop right now? Right now?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have a favorite moment right now,
Speaker 1: but the most exciting thing for me right now I
Speaker 1: was working with St. John. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: to be honna bring but that's dope. I see you
Speaker 1: passionate about that, though not seriously because you know it's
Speaker 1: in fifteen years before, you know, since I did anything
Speaker 1: in music, And the last two albums I did was
Speaker 1: Kanye first two albums, right, so college drop out, late registration.
Speaker 1: So to step out the game for that was his
Speaker 1: first two yeah wow, So to step out the game.
Speaker 1: All this time, I said I would never ever be
Speaker 1: in music business again, and people ask me over and
Speaker 1: over you know what I'm saying, and managed to do
Speaker 1: this come being hard to CEO running this, I wasn't interested,
Speaker 1: but something that I was passionate just kind of drew
Speaker 1: me back in and the music, the artistry, and then
Speaker 1: building a relationship with him and showed me something different.
Speaker 1: And now seeing how good he really is, I'm like,
Speaker 1: the creative process is what I enjoyed more than anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, being in the student and
Speaker 1: being a studio all day. So I love to be
Speaker 1: in the studio forere produce a pulling up a track,
Speaker 1: seeing the head movement, seeing the person come up with
Speaker 1: the words going and actually create the music and then
Speaker 1: you know, especially when they hit records to see that
Speaker 1: from scratch. That's one of the most memorable times that
Speaker 1: you even went to Hot Night the seventh Way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I heard recently, I went to seven to Like
Speaker 1: that's that's deep. Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you know you Yeah, I'm back all the way back.
Speaker 1: That's hard. That's hard. I mean I don't do nothing
Speaker 1: half way. If I do something, I'm all in. That's
Speaker 1: that's why I take my time with ship. You know,
Speaker 1: that's all just a blunt half. Its like you want
Speaker 1: roaster or no. Okay, okay. Do you remember when he
Speaker 1: was on the other probation. You used to use me
Speaker 1: as a guinea pick. He used to be like, y'll
Speaker 1: Nori come over all right, and used to put like
Speaker 1: fucking a pound of weed and tin cookies like this
Speaker 1: doesn't match up. This thing you can't put you can't
Speaker 1: meet tin cookies. What are you doing? He makes ten
Speaker 1: big cookies like this guy. One time we drove home
Speaker 1: from this I was a sweater guard. I was doing
Speaker 1: twenty miles like this. People good, Like I can't go
Speaker 1: no further. This is it word but but you know, um,
Speaker 1: so so life moves on. You come home, Ah, you
Speaker 1: start the colthen line things happened. Then you get to
Speaker 1: see that your two brothers ain't talking right, You get
Speaker 1: to see that one is on one side and one
Speaker 1: is on the other side. Yeah, like one what is?
Speaker 1: What is? What is? What's the first thing you think
Speaker 1: of when that happens. I mean I didn't think anything.
Speaker 1: The last thing I've seen was them together at Shaka
Speaker 1: Shaka birthday. Yeah, and then after that, d no Shaka
Speaker 1: that you start chacka pillar. So I didn't see them
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, there was a Jay show with Kevin
Speaker 1: Hart and everybody, so Jay Dame took his daughter to
Speaker 1: the show, so they weren't speaking. It just wasn't hanging together,
Speaker 1: just like I mean, we all speak, but it just
Speaker 1: happens that now, you know. I mean, I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time in l A. I see Jay Moore,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because I'm with Ti time
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm with Emory all the time, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes, so that all allows you know,
Speaker 1: that time allows us to spend time together. But I've
Speaker 1: seen Dame another day too, Yeah, at h at a
Speaker 1: dinner friend, I had a birthday don Okay, so I said,
Speaker 1: everybody wearing it? So how about how about every because
Speaker 1: every for the most part, um when Jay first came out,
Speaker 1: we don't even heard of him through song. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't like it was crazy because
Speaker 1: as much as I know all of y'all, me and
Speaker 1: every had just really met each other. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: then we just met each other. Like how how dope
Speaker 1: was that for you to come home and see that
Speaker 1: he had a position and pulling one and he was
Speaker 1: doing when Emory came home, I was here, so I
Speaker 1: actually picked Emery. Uh, get the funk out? I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought, no, no, I picked em up. I would
Speaker 1: actually take him to work every day. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I thought he came home. Then you came home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he came home. I went in years later, Okay. So
Speaker 1: he was like, I only want you to pick me up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When and you know, we
Speaker 1: spend time. But Emery, people don't know, it's a real
Speaker 1: entricate part of Rocket Feller. He's there from the genesis.
Speaker 1: So Emery Dna is just as much Rocket fell as
Speaker 1: anybody else. You know what I'm saying, the same way
Speaker 1: Thai Tai, same way, be high, the same way bleak.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Clark Ken and everybody else
Speaker 1: that helped us get to that point. But Emery. You know,
Speaker 1: so what was the story that made Emery famous? What
Speaker 1: was it? He was in Vegas and he when he
Speaker 1: got his name Vegas. Yeah, when he was at the
Speaker 1: crap tables, at the one that starts to g good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we was out there. Well there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things, I mean from even in my lifetime. We
Speaker 1: shot the video and we brought the whole island out
Speaker 1: of Champagne. So he yeah, he brought We can't just
Speaker 1: see that he just please remember that story. But when
Speaker 1: we went to London that day, we brought the whole
Speaker 1: hotel out of chicken and wine at a little thing
Speaker 1: like that. But he brought the whole island of the
Speaker 1: champion of that. And then in Vegas, you know, he
Speaker 1: went off and was at the gambling table and then
Speaker 1: went and brought a bunch of bottles and stuff and
Speaker 1: then made this little area all v I P. So
Speaker 1: nobody knew who he was. We got to fight sitting
Speaker 1: in front of Dr Dre. This is before we had
Speaker 1: any music out, so you know, we did, and the
Speaker 1: security started asking you can We looked them, man, we
Speaker 1: lived them and he's all NBA players and ship. We're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's good. He good. Nobody knows that we bought some
Speaker 1: much champagne. They thought we were somebody. But that was
Speaker 1: all Emery and and and Emory on top of that
Speaker 1: is the one who created all the lifestyle at rock Nation.
Speaker 1: So you see the paper plane hats, that's Emery. Anything
Speaker 1: with Puma, that's Emery. You know what I mean, all
Speaker 1: those collaborations Rihanna, Big Sean, Miekmill, all that stuff goes
Speaker 1: to Emery. He's the one that's at the forefront of that.
Speaker 1: And and you know you gotta kind of pass through
Speaker 1: that bridge. How pro how proudly would you see that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I love to ask my brother every time
Speaker 1: that he wins, I win and vice versa. Goddamn it,
Speaker 1: goddamn makes him look take a shot of wine because
Speaker 1: I'm not can't do that again. You're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Let I go, rock I go. You will go to
Speaker 1: killer a little shot. I just got have some of this.
Speaker 1: I got straight to kill it. Don't do a shot
Speaker 1: you're gonna do a shot. You wanna do a shot.
Speaker 1: You wanna do a shot. Man, it's for your birthday,
Speaker 1: My birthday, the birth Take a shot. Everybody take a shot.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. The Pons
Speaker 1: shot the Burros and sequel all all right, come here
Speaker 1: and here, guys on the first time we see twenty
Speaker 1: people take shots of the first time on drink chats.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna take a shot. Well, pump this ship when
Speaker 1: it came on? Is that dollar that's real? Pia Pia
Speaker 1: Colora Surrock. I'm asking you, brother, you don't know. You
Speaker 1: didn't charge you that you pick it up? Jesus? Is
Speaker 1: this something? What's wrong the white? Is this something in there? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, that's what I meant. Yeah, I want something, Colada.
Speaker 1: Can you take a shot of that? Yeah? Something everything?
Speaker 1: That's like? Now the ful baby? So you want to
Speaker 1: take a bringing me bringing st John? Yeah, get everybody there,
Speaker 1: shot at me. Start the next segment, like a right,
Speaker 1: why are you bringing to look it in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not comfortable with that stick point your ship.
Speaker 1: Damn man, I caught that one. He ain't change ain't change. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he broke the bottle. God, this is like I don't
Speaker 1: know eight or something, Yo, yo, give it, give him
Speaker 1: that raspberry though your white family. She dropped me off.
Speaker 1: She would friend. She was back, if I tell her
Speaker 1: somebody's bad, you guys. Wait, he's like talking to her
Speaker 1: now like all the time. They'm like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Oh yeah, what's the what's the white girl
Speaker 1: and the white girl? Um? Kylie? Yeah, yeah, she came
Speaker 1: about her like yeah, we're just waning already had drinks,
Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, She's like they put me
Speaker 1: onto the Christian Dio cafe. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: They like you go shopping and you go stairs, you
Speaker 1: get coffee, and there's like some flock it out. Kylie,
Speaker 1: yeah yesterday when you're going, you're not coming out this week,
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, I'm gonna miss that one. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm gonna do that. Yeah, because I got
Speaker 1: ship out, um, and I got a couple of more things.
Speaker 1: But then after that, after all star going, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get a month to month and yeah, building okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I was gonna do the one better because
Speaker 1: I wanted to do the two duplex. But I was
Speaker 1: just like the one. Yeah, it's just it's just us
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah not but that. No, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ford to killing Yeah, put a poor shot to Yeah
Speaker 1: he Tracy with a drinking to kill it. That's hard.
Speaker 1: That is hard. What is this is something? Colado? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's up my speed? Did you watch the glasshold on?
Speaker 1: It's okay? Sorry, sorry, we do it, y'all. I don't problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can we forget? Everybody be out there say the Grammy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip that one like I skipped super Ball.
Speaker 1: I wanted to. Oh yeah, I guess everybody. I want
Speaker 1: to say some money yet yo that I know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do when I go out there. I was
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, Like y'all know eat you change? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what you know? And what you don't change? At day?
Speaker 1: What happened to the shot? Oh let's go, let's go everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: it's my birthday. Let's is your birthday? Or drink chips halloo?
Speaker 1: Like that line? But what is it? Because one year
Speaker 1: we all even Gando came out. Uh, we had a
Speaker 1: Rocket Feller show just to give a little We had
Speaker 1: the biggest read the song. So we still we still
Speaker 1: had yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we had it first
Speaker 1: and it was frunny because one night, uh we went
Speaker 1: sport sporty with de Parade and it was I think
Speaker 1: it was rocket Uh lack Familiar had a club, so
Speaker 1: I think he or Bombino. You guys had had the
Speaker 1: father up. You guys had true life. You guys had
Speaker 1: me and it was crazy. I remember you. I think
Speaker 1: it was just you and J and I was at
Speaker 1: the bar and you just drink the killer all night
Speaker 1: and I looked at these niggas and they wouldn't sweat.
Speaker 1: I was so mad. I was so mad. I was jealous.
Speaker 1: I was I can use that word. I was jealous.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you know after two shots, like
Speaker 1: it's like ship didn't come down, my ship right here? Then,
Speaker 1: I mean your under all start acting up, you know,
Speaker 1: but y'all think it's went in sweat. But what the
Speaker 1: fun we kind of training that you kind of drinking
Speaker 1: training did y'all go through, Like you guys don't sweat
Speaker 1: the funk, Like even right now you're got sweating the shot.
Speaker 1: Take up my ship now, now say listen um for
Speaker 1: the people that don't know about you. Uh you're like
Speaker 1: in the records I heard, you're like, uh future Lauren
Speaker 1: Hill and like Bob dealing. Wodamn right put that shot
Speaker 1: on the shirt. I found you got ship to be honest,
Speaker 1: because like your style is so unique, like it's so
Speaker 1: like like that. The one thing that I hate about
Speaker 1: this young generation is I could always identify when the
Speaker 1: person is right. They always say, all right, that's him,
Speaker 1: that's him. The thing about you is you can you
Speaker 1: so versatile that you can you can be any anything ever,
Speaker 1: Like like I heard records from you, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's the same guy. Like if one would be so
Speaker 1: laugh and then one would be right to the car
Speaker 1: and then one of who It's like I've never like
Speaker 1: I know why he's you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you know because it's but how you do Like first
Speaker 1: of where you from Brooklyn? God, damn it, he's still your. God,
Speaker 1: I would have something like like what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: I just thought it was like somewhere like we didn't
Speaker 1: real didn't know. I can't believe it's like flat he's
Speaker 1: still your Damn you a murderer, because I don't everybody's
Speaker 1: When I was in jail. Everybody's New York. You're actually
Speaker 1: East New York. Like, yeah, you got a body right there.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like anybody but East New York. So okay,
Speaker 1: talk about your upbringing is and like how you doing inspirations? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's somewhere he's saying, I need to hear what your inspirations. Well,
Speaker 1: I grew up bouncing between Brooklyn, East New York and Guyana.
Speaker 1: George soun Guyana. So that's in South America. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm West Indian because Guyana's West Indian all over south
Speaker 1: right right, right, so Spanish you know what, I ain't
Speaker 1: run into that pop that sounds yeah good, you're thinking
Speaker 1: Ghana Ghana Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean in South America, right,
Speaker 1: So it's Spanish speaking or you know, put yours in
Speaker 1: different visions. But we spoke English, we spoke Pats and
Speaker 1: this French Guyana started. It's a geography lesson that, right.
Speaker 1: So I grew to boss in between Brooklyn and Guyana.
Speaker 1: So my influences just answer your question. I grew up
Speaker 1: when I was in New York. I was I was
Speaker 1: listening to it was Rockefell, I was listening to J
Speaker 1: I was listening to um Bleek, I was listening to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I took some of it back with me, right, because
Speaker 1: you know, you get to take things back with you.
Speaker 1: But when I was there growing up for Real and Guyana,
Speaker 1: I was listening to Beanie Man and Spragger Bean's and Booty.
Speaker 1: It's heavy. You can't escape. That's just that's normal, Just
Speaker 1: like it was doctrine to listen to Ja in New York.
Speaker 1: That was you know, that was gospel. You just that's
Speaker 1: what you had in the Caribbean that deserves around. Ala
Speaker 1: also shout out the says because you know what he
Speaker 1: was signed The rocket Fell at test. It's on the
Speaker 1: record with you, okay my album. I was hanging out
Speaker 1: with call it the other day and he played me
Speaker 1: a Sissler no my bottle sizz and boo Juice. Right.
Speaker 1: I knew he went to Jamaica. I knew he immediately
Speaker 1: gotta booge you. I'm not gonna lie to you. And
Speaker 1: you know, like reggae music is like my third or
Speaker 1: four favorite. I don't want to ask it in like
Speaker 1: like you know, now I love my shot. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: shot a ranks things like I'm old school shot, right,
Speaker 1: I'm um, what's what's the other nigga light skinning like
Speaker 1: special ad super I'm like that, so but I ain't
Speaker 1: been into like reggae like that like that man, but
Speaker 1: he was tapping your shoulder time. I ain't gonna say that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? But college playing this ship?
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, he got some ship. We'll thinking
Speaker 1: about DJ college man, I want to give up. What
Speaker 1: did you guys talk about him coming on drink chain?
Speaker 1: You know why I didn't bring it up because I'm
Speaker 1: too classic classic? Yeah, because not to he broke it up.
Speaker 1: He broke it up. He was like, listen, this is
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna do it. I was like, the conspiracy
Speaker 1: that you've been coming up with, No, I think it's
Speaker 1: still a conspiracy that I was going up. I think
Speaker 1: you think it still is, uh conspiracy? I got now
Speaker 1: we got no problem. So class someone that class you
Speaker 1: sent me up. Okay, here's my conspiracy there. If is
Speaker 1: a great guy, that's that's you sent me up to.
Speaker 1: Nothing a great guy. It's a great guy. But you
Speaker 1: know he has the same part of him school class.
Speaker 1: I've seen him personally tell people I'm gonna suck you up.
Speaker 1: That's my I'm just saying his eyes. Man, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm just saying I've seen Tim in a
Speaker 1: occasion or two. I thought I sign listen to this.
Speaker 1: Remember my thought solid this was it's a whole cup
Speaker 1: quota point. Okay, So my theory is at some point,
Speaker 1: you know he has things to be out there working
Speaker 1: Street Team doing because men came up around the same
Speaker 1: time he did something. No, I didn't do anything, but this,
Speaker 1: this is the hate to train. They don't want me
Speaker 1: to finish the start, but they did so angle and
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not sure of cow yet. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure the show and we're all home team should be
Speaker 1: on the show. We should have been on the show
Speaker 1: back and when we started the show. One million theories.
Speaker 1: I think it's incorrect that I think many times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm bugging. I'm just bum fucking with you, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you. But a part of me that's something
Speaker 1: doing to drink Chase and I ain't gonna be I'm
Speaker 1: going to l a. I'm sure you ain't gonna have Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want it's real. No, I mean it could
Speaker 1: be real. None the confess he knows it. I mean
Speaker 1: one you saying that I love for each other him
Speaker 1: d j If this is an actual cover, yeah, d
Speaker 1: j Iri And on my way to l A today,
Speaker 1: little so Um A part of it's just a piece
Speaker 1: of me that feels like, um, there's a piece of
Speaker 1: me that feels like you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: he's trying it with you. I mean I won't do
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on the show that day. No, no,
Speaker 1: but I could be wrong because he I think it wrong.
Speaker 1: The thing about is this I've been to I've been
Speaker 1: to his cript twice. I'm too. I will not ask
Speaker 1: you for anything in your house. I kid you, not
Speaker 1: other than wis the bathroom. I'm just I'm that type
Speaker 1: of nigger. Like even if my next door neighor invites
Speaker 1: me to a party and I see the party going on,
Speaker 1: if that person doesn't reiterate you know, you know you
Speaker 1: gotta come to the party, I don't. I don't never
Speaker 1: want to be the intruder guy. Like I wasn't intrude
Speaker 1: at one time in my life and I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: So I don't intrude at all, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when I'm at when I was, you know, two
Speaker 1: times I'm at his spot. Um, I don't bring up
Speaker 1: drink champs at all, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: just I just like, yo, I got you know, because
Speaker 1: one time I came on the boat. Uh you did what? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's he's supposed to do. But remember Mr Levy one
Speaker 1: time he came on the boat with Brom Mr Child,
Speaker 1: I put an old liquor in the world and he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I got it all in my crib. And then it's like,
Speaker 1: you can't really violate. You can't believe like I got
Speaker 1: my own food, Like you look like a fucking Safari hunter,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had to leave
Speaker 1: it all. But he plung it up, and I think
Speaker 1: he would eventually do it. I think he's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I think that the conspiracy is wrong. Yeah, I hope. Really.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we came up together
Speaker 1: in Minami, and I'm hell of proud because I'm proud
Speaker 1: of the home team. Anybody from the home team that wins,
Speaker 1: I'm winning as well. And Cat has gone beyond anybody's
Speaker 1: expectations and I'm proud of that. And that's why I
Speaker 1: want to showcase him to represent my side and drink
Speaker 1: champions Miamist. Respect you God damn makes some more. Now,
Speaker 1: what what kind of pressure that you face, because literally,
Speaker 1: this is the man who finally put on one of
Speaker 1: the greatest people on earth, especially as the MC is
Speaker 1: that pressure always, that's something that you know, it makes
Speaker 1: you want to say, you know what, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: on the motherfucker wake up in the morning, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I'm I'm like, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about that? I don't think about it. I don't
Speaker 1: think about it. You know. It's funny because right with friends, right,
Speaker 1: so he has this tremendous legacy and he's done the
Speaker 1: impossible things. I'm thinking about what I'm trying to do. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know where I came from and what
Speaker 1: I want to go next. So when I wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning, I'm like, Okay, what's the road and
Speaker 1: after get that so that I don't feel any pressure
Speaker 1: outside of can I buy my mom is Chanelle Wallett
Speaker 1: that I just bought for myself? What what's the next
Speaker 1: ten years gonna look like for me? I don't think
Speaker 1: of the pressure, but he's not, and it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: that way because I'm hungry. I just wanted. I just wanted.
Speaker 1: I don't I forget right, I'm sitting in the corner
Speaker 1: and I'm hearing the stuff. I'm like, oh, this nigger
Speaker 1: did what right? And but I know that, But that's
Speaker 1: not what I'm waking up thinking. That's not the urgency.
Speaker 1: It's is two niggas moving around and we got a
Speaker 1: whole other plan and we want to do something. All right,
Speaker 1: goddamn it? That was That was all? Now? Now? Um, now,
Speaker 1: who was your inspirations? Like, besides a jail or something
Speaker 1: like that? Like, who is somebody to look at the
Speaker 1: new generation rather forget your inspiration? Somebody are your peers
Speaker 1: that you that you? I mean, you gotta respect Drake, right,
Speaker 1: But there's you know, there's different tiers a you're talking.
Speaker 1: I remember when when I grew up watching Rocket Feller,
Speaker 1: I respected the business model. I was a kid. I
Speaker 1: was just like a broke kid in East New York,
Speaker 1: like a bummy bearfoot kid from Guyana, just trying to
Speaker 1: make something. And that I was like, whoa, this is
Speaker 1: a path here. There's something that you could do to
Speaker 1: something to be executed here that makes sense. So this
Speaker 1: inspiration musically and this inspiration business wise, right, and you
Speaker 1: come from hard circumstances and you try to make a
Speaker 1: road map out. So I was looking at business and
Speaker 1: were you born here? I was born here? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: how did they totally one savage thing affect run me
Speaker 1: the wrong word because I'm first generation American, but I
Speaker 1: grew up bouncing between countries. You could have easily been born. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom's scraped to make sure we were born here,
Speaker 1: just to be on this soil, because that meant something,
Speaker 1: that meant they couldn't send this back. No, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to change that law now even if you're born hire,
Speaker 1: Yeah that parents bring the kids like give birth here.
Speaker 1: They're trying to change that law. Words they're calling anchor babies.
Speaker 1: I think I think I heard that, but I ain't
Speaker 1: a little lesson what that meant. Yeah, anchor baby, which
Speaker 1: I mean in some realities, people do come here to
Speaker 1: give birth here because they want a better life for
Speaker 1: their children. They're trying to change those laws. I'm sure
Speaker 1: a bunch of our parents did the same thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: just to get here. Just a scraper right, right, So
Speaker 1: when I saw this Tony one Savage thing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this guy, he was just building his life here. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be repped from his kids. He got three kids.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I met him a couple of times,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know his entire situation, but I could
Speaker 1: he got no UK at accent, so he's he was born. Actually, like,
Speaker 1: I'm confused because I know he's Caribbean. He was, but
Speaker 1: I think I think I think the UK owns Dominica. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think, so. I try to look that up
Speaker 1: because I was thinking, is it is a Commonwealth, But
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. Just that will check that,
Speaker 1: because I think if you're born in the British version
Speaker 1: of islands, they say that you're probably the UK. Those
Speaker 1: aren't British territories, Dominica or St. Lucia, which is isnt
Speaker 1: UK British, isn't the UK. That's part of Britain, UK Domerican. St.
Speaker 1: Lucia is in a part of that. That's what you're right, right,
Speaker 1: right right? I think is because I was at six seven,
Speaker 1: that's what he's at. He's what he's he's in Dominica
Speaker 1: because he's from there. From that he was born the
Speaker 1: Dominican guy he was has do with the UK. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going down right, yeah, yeah, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: but we investigate. We're investigate Jory, but we gotta figure
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, we gotta figure it out. But goddamn it.
Speaker 1: But but you know, they're saying real quickly, the conspiracy
Speaker 1: behind that is supposedly came out with the record that
Speaker 1: was touching on immigration, touching on on other social issues.
Speaker 1: Heard that and then all of a sudden, out he's
Speaker 1: a target, and then that he did it Instagram live
Speaker 1: and he was actually saying snitches like some some crazy ship.
Speaker 1: And not only that you're hanging out with because because
Speaker 1: God bless me, God bless everybody around, but you build
Speaker 1: miss jail reformed ship, you gotta be squeaky fucking clean,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because you're you're trying to
Speaker 1: say that old least it's bigger down the business should be.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It reversed and people gonna
Speaker 1: target you for that, you understand I'm saying. So, And
Speaker 1: then you know, one of the last three times I
Speaker 1: saw Bleak there was they was together twenty one and them,
Speaker 1: so I think he could meet it. Excuse me me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So how did you feel being at that dinner man?
Speaker 1: That was wild? That was a wild that was wild.
Speaker 1: It's wild right because I'm looking when I look at
Speaker 1: the picture, I'm like, nig that happened. That's crazy. Because
Speaker 1: this this thing is out of his mind. He would like,
Speaker 1: y'oll just pull up. We just we're just nothing is
Speaker 1: then like you listen about the like fucking whoever we're
Speaker 1: walking over big black. I learned facts we were doing.
Speaker 1: We were we went there something for BT real quick, right,
Speaker 1: signing that this thing is out of his mind. They said, um,
Speaker 1: I remember I'm just in the room. Just what he's
Speaker 1: just talking on camera. They said, if you can go
Speaker 1: back in the pass and you could do anything or
Speaker 1: you could change anything or something like that, right, don't
Speaker 1: make me, don't make me contorted. But he said, They
Speaker 1: were like, what would you do it? He said, I
Speaker 1: would go back. I would sign St. John earlier and
Speaker 1: make Rockefeller bigger dynasty. I left the room, and I
Speaker 1: really think he's gonna be the biggest brand as a male,
Speaker 1: since Kanye has a brand musically, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: cut the edge and then do something that people haven't
Speaker 1: seen before and we got it on. I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: I was honestly believe that that's not something like my
Speaker 1: legacy is on the line. Believe you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I put that ship on the line to come back
Speaker 1: in the music. I could have did this with a
Speaker 1: lot of people, bigger artists, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That was already selling a lot of records. But I
Speaker 1: chose to do it with him for a reason. I
Speaker 1: don't tell you. Before I ever met you, I had
Speaker 1: a conversation with him, and that's what he says. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's partly the only person I come back to the
Speaker 1: music business. Well, I was say, because I played the
Speaker 1: album for Nori. I don't even know if we met yet.
Speaker 1: Me and uh sat and I played it for him.
Speaker 1: He was going to Malible. So the music first, yeah,
Speaker 1: purely off the music. Then we just no, no, we
Speaker 1: just became friends. And then he played he had a
Speaker 1: he has an album out now called Collection one. So
Speaker 1: album yeah yeas yeah, that's an album that's been out
Speaker 1: in March. So when we met and we talked for
Speaker 1: like three hours and he said, come to the studio,
Speaker 1: listened to his new project. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: he did it twice because I was definitely convinced, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if he could do
Speaker 1: it again. And I heard the new project, I was like,
Speaker 1: let's dude, it ill because the new album jinx like
Speaker 1: everybody's first album. For two months, we just was friends.
Speaker 1: You know, We're just hanging out, going out, eating, shilling,
Speaker 1: bringing people to studio listening. First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: even go to studio, so who you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I started bringing other people to listen to the music,
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to see if I was bugging.
Speaker 1: So I was like, let me see if everybody else
Speaker 1: feeling the same way that I feel. And everybody was like, yo,
Speaker 1: this ship is crazy. The other like two days ago,
Speaker 1: I was at three days ago playing some songs for
Speaker 1: Jay because I told him. I said, look, man, if
Speaker 1: I knew Michael Jordan's and I'm playing ball, I'm gonna say, yo,
Speaker 1: it's my phone. Correct, I'm gonna go to the best.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nigga, I got this our mom. I need
Speaker 1: you to see what's up. So I played him songs,
Speaker 1: some songs that he doinged on the album something like fifteen,
Speaker 1: and JA was like, Yo, this is incredible. He said,
Speaker 1: you didn't play not one black song. He said every
Speaker 1: song you played was incredible. Right now, that's that pressure
Speaker 1: on you? Or is that like it? I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be like this at this point. This is what I
Speaker 1: signed up for, I said, I said, this is what
Speaker 1: I wanted a right. It's funny you make the Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's reference. I wake up every day and I tell
Speaker 1: the people around me, I want to be Jordan's. So
Speaker 1: if I gotta be Jordan, y'all gotta be the ninety
Speaker 1: six bulls. So the only pressure is the pressure I
Speaker 1: give myself because there's nothing to go back to, there's
Speaker 1: nowhere to fall. I'll tell you something that was a
Speaker 1: funny story. I can't tell you the player's name because
Speaker 1: I gotta protect them, but I remember one of these
Speaker 1: players they drafted the Patriots. They go to the Patriots
Speaker 1: my homeboy, and he called me like two thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning. It's like, oh, I'm pretty he'd be gonna
Speaker 1: practice right now. And I'm like what He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm not used to this, But that's the type of
Speaker 1: ship that to be a champion to do. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, two thirty in the morning, cold nickas
Speaker 1: and say let's go to practice. Who's gonna tell Tom
Speaker 1: Brady no facts? Who's gonna like, No, I don't want
Speaker 1: to practice. I'm drunk like whatever you at, come and
Speaker 1: pull up. And that's what it takes to be great.
Speaker 1: It's just you just gotta just do have any fucking thing,
Speaker 1: and you know you want the path, my brother, h
Speaker 1: you got a great team behind you. Want to another
Speaker 1: famous story. I used to remember. I remember, I just
Speaker 1: smoke haze and babies to hate that smoke, Haye, stop
Speaker 1: smoking right there, you know. In fact, I'll take another shot.
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember, I remember, I've been bigs used
Speaker 1: to like because I would, I would smoke, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't like search for the like the best of the best.
Speaker 1: I would be like, if if it's be I'm good,
Speaker 1: like I ain't even want be plucks. I'm good. And
Speaker 1: most of us was like that. In New York, this
Speaker 1: motherfucker they had a week called Harrod Wanna. I had
Speaker 1: no idea what it was. First of all, I thought
Speaker 1: I was doing HEROD sound by the way, Harojuanna, Let's
Speaker 1: go it was the best week I've ever smoke. But
Speaker 1: we went too so we're doing ninety of rock nineties six.
Speaker 1: Your position, um uh, with everything you've been through. When
Speaker 1: people look sometimes and you know, I like the I
Speaker 1: hate to bring it up. It's just you know, people
Speaker 1: ask and people see you and Jay so strong together.
Speaker 1: One of the things is why you and Dame is
Speaker 1: not all together. I know. People always say it's funny
Speaker 1: because it's not like if I go to his house,
Speaker 1: I gotta say your damn, I'm going to Jay house.
Speaker 1: You gotta show up so we could take this picture.
Speaker 1: It's just just happened. No one thinks that though. By
Speaker 1: the way, I think Instagram is super constrocted, because some
Speaker 1: people really construct the Instagram like they think that their
Speaker 1: life is that chronological order. Like someone told me, someone
Speaker 1: told me the other day, we're gonna get right back
Speaker 1: to this. Some one told the other day, yea, I
Speaker 1: picked you up, and you ain't even like the picture.
Speaker 1: I said, I ain't seen it. Like it's no conspiracy.
Speaker 1: I guess people in my dam said I hit up.
Speaker 1: Said that's not a question for me, but him again,
Speaker 1: Like I've seen certain ship go to that like people
Speaker 1: like early on, like you talked about all the crews
Speaker 1: coming together in Brooklyn Hall and and everybody out of that,
Speaker 1: Me and Top Top probably hung out more than any
Speaker 1: of us. Wow. So back then, even though Jay and
Speaker 1: to you know, everybody know the story they grew up together,
Speaker 1: but it was me and to Top almost every day
Speaker 1: they get every day now no pictures dare so what
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, Yo, why damon Jane and this picture?
Speaker 1: Because being time to hang out just certain people click up.
Speaker 1: And that's just how that doesn't mean you don't have
Speaker 1: love for somebody else or something like that, you know,
Speaker 1: even if two people are getting along or not. And
Speaker 1: just you know right now, that's just you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, where I hang out most, you know, right
Speaker 1: all right, So um again this is something that's on
Speaker 1: the internet. Um, choke, no joke, I don't know, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, choking joke accused. Um what did he say
Speaker 1: to little guy? Oh he's trying to somebody before you
Speaker 1: even going a story that day is a lie and
Speaker 1: he makes up a lot of ship. Okay, Yeah, So
Speaker 1: don't matter what the story is, it's probably a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of spin on the trip. Cool cool. We'll leave
Speaker 1: it that we're at that. I right, you got something
Speaker 1: because I gotta take a peep peace, but really taking
Speaker 1: the shot. Oh where I'm man? Shot totally the guy,
Speaker 1: I totally. I'm having fun. Man, you just say something pictures.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. Big. I just want
Speaker 1: to be honest with what everybody everybody Big is one
Speaker 1: of the most genuine people I ever met. I feel
Speaker 1: like you should be praised. I feel like you should.
Speaker 1: I feel like and that's the good thing about you
Speaker 1: is you don't You don't even give a funk like
Speaker 1: you don't give a funk about having props. And that
Speaker 1: ship is just amazing to be because and you said
Speaker 1: something earlier, you said, Yo, I rather celebrate other people's birthdays.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how it was. One Big don't got a shot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's going out? The next thing? I got a shot.
Speaker 1: He's making a speech's making a speech. You gotta connect.
Speaker 1: He liked the Delhi got damn. So you know, and
Speaker 1: I just feel like, Paul, Yeah, shout out to put
Speaker 1: me on de Yeah, shout to revolt shot on my birthday.
Speaker 1: That's became my favorite to kill. Okay, all right, that's
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. You can fill me up. Listen,
Speaker 1: I ain't back Paul time, So listen to you, babe.
Speaker 1: Saw a little family St. John and the motherfucking building
Speaker 1: in great hands. We respect you. So what's so? What's
Speaker 1: the plan from here? Are we signed up St. John
Speaker 1: to rock Nation? Are we signing them to a title?
Speaker 1: I've seen pictures with you in l a read? Is
Speaker 1: that a thing? On? No? I got options? Man? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean he sign right now? He's label lad okay?
Speaker 1: What is what ling? Was he? What is hitco? What hiteco? Hitco? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because he up out of the yell y'all, y'all gotta
Speaker 1: mean so he had a hitco right now? It's that.
Speaker 1: It's the So what's the next plan? Is that the
Speaker 1: album we scale it Collection one came out last year,
Speaker 1: do it again, do bigger? Go back on tour and
Speaker 1: did two tours last year, did two sold out tours
Speaker 1: on the project that you wouldn't have heard salable in
Speaker 1: a sexy car, right, that's the word, Like two world tours.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and do that again, but this
Speaker 1: time on a bigger leave more silk, more leather, a
Speaker 1: few more blondes, you know. And it's not about being
Speaker 1: signed to somebody else. It's about God complex. So that's
Speaker 1: the company that's being created right now. That everything I'll
Speaker 1: run through. Okay, would that be your label controlling yourself? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same model. It's the same model we saw before.
Speaker 1: You know, with new information, it's like not to say
Speaker 1: that I don't want to put it there, but I
Speaker 1: got to watch it. I got to watch Rockefeller in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, six seven. Now I got not
Speaker 1: got the end of work because mind the whole book. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest and this this I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: This is not to big you up, but this is
Speaker 1: to big you up. The Chico starts with your music.
Speaker 1: The music speaks for itself. Everythink that's the problem with artists.
Speaker 1: Most artists have the music and don't have nothing else
Speaker 1: and the attitude, you know what I'm saying. And the
Speaker 1: thing is, you got the music and then you got
Speaker 1: the person. So the thing about it is, if you
Speaker 1: don't go to where you at, it's purely your fault.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there because that means you
Speaker 1: didn't work hard enough. That means you didn't. That means
Speaker 1: you missed the morning show. That means you went to
Speaker 1: the tunnel, you know, I know, my old nig thennel.
Speaker 1: But that means that means you when the club live,
Speaker 1: and then you forgot that. You gotta wake up in
Speaker 1: the morning and go see motherfucking y'all got I mean,
Speaker 1: and y're gonna mean it in the morning. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing is fall in love with the work and
Speaker 1: never the money. And this she would always follow you,
Speaker 1: my dude. You know what I'm saying. The money, The
Speaker 1: money will come once you love the work. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that. Yeah, yeah, I believe, And I
Speaker 1: don't believe in chasing it back. I don't think you
Speaker 1: have to. I think even that will come. It's automatic.
Speaker 1: When you find you hit your stride, things just sort
Speaker 1: of come right. Like we this morning. I was this morning,
Speaker 1: I was in Jamaica. I spent the last ten days
Speaker 1: in Jamaica. Not on vacation, although you know it looked good, queens, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I spent the last ten days I was working on
Speaker 1: music in Jamaica, like I'm the studio, like fourteen hours
Speaker 1: a day and on sageration, right so I get out
Speaker 1: the studio this morning at like six am or seven am.
Speaker 1: I hop on a plane. We get here. We hop
Speaker 1: on the offer plane. We're here. All was after lots
Speaker 1: of roles you did. I'm on South Africa and South
Speaker 1: African lobster tails, lots of roles. By the way, we
Speaker 1: was in college clip me Lenny asked at DJ college
Speaker 1: and we were talking about your instagram. How vegan right now?
Speaker 1: Something about being kind vegan, no white, a vegan plate.
Speaker 1: But the chicken the waffles. Yeah, we got chicken and
Speaker 1: waffles here. I didn't see that. I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: She was amazing that. But didn't you be saying I
Speaker 1: didn't eat this far. That's that's that's the part that
Speaker 1: our collar and lines, dam pete, because that's what they eat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be like, yo did Like you got to
Speaker 1: watch the Whole Food Blog. Yeah, yeah, shoot eat, I
Speaker 1: told it, they just watch eat all that foul fit
Speaker 1: yo letty stuff in the dessert was counting. He's that
Speaker 1: way callis not needing a dessert. College is on shout
Speaker 1: out the color right a wrong. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Just feel worth foxes. He can work, but you kind
Speaker 1: of you kind of have a little bit of money
Speaker 1: because the crazy ship was the chef because they already
Speaker 1: cooked this. So every time you know, he goes and
Speaker 1: grabs something, that's a person that comes up to him
Speaker 1: and says, that's such such an amount of calories. Nor
Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing to me a human calorie countra. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. It was amazing. Like I'm just telling you,
Speaker 1: that's the last Like he was sitting in the person
Speaker 1: was like, look, you can have this, but if you
Speaker 1: have this, you can't have that. If you want to
Speaker 1: drink of wine, a drinking wine, but that drink of
Speaker 1: wine is gonna take away from him that piece of
Speaker 1: such the weight Watchers, the weight Watchers program, the calorie amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. But listen, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I don't have money like DJ Cale, So me being
Speaker 1: all that ship, I was fail. I think you you know,
Speaker 1: I think if you want that J shot the funk
Speaker 1: out Caulgary County, I would lose Calgary cal He I
Speaker 1: would love of Calgary. Carroll Love was like four or
Speaker 1: five years ago and use like yo, bigs, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie more my ship. Yeah you know when you
Speaker 1: using jail, I was I was three, I was almost
Speaker 1: three pictures right now. It was even right before that
Speaker 1: after when you was doing that the whole thing, right
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah, ain't the same, but at least
Speaker 1: I got it down three D the calorie counter. No, no,
Speaker 1: she was not, like see weight watchers is different. See
Speaker 1: to think about it is, but that's not weight watchers
Speaker 1: know it is for calorie No, no weight watch this period.
Speaker 1: You can actually cheat. That's why you can have pizza
Speaker 1: like you ever seen over and promoting that ship and
Speaker 1: over we have pizza and ship like that because they're
Speaker 1: not talking to real fat people. Man, I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you the truth. Actually, yeah, yeah, I'm telling the truth. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like pounds gave sent some certain places, but it
Speaker 1: tells you what to eat. Yeah, like you know, how
Speaker 1: were you eating dessert and all this ship? He was like, ye,
Speaker 1: don't trust me. That's what I know. It's a calorie county.
Speaker 1: Don't what you do? Like, So that's most you're allowed
Speaker 1: a certain amount of calories, right, two thousand day, I
Speaker 1: say fifteen hundred, right, that's what that was where my
Speaker 1: mom was at. Right, So that's you say, you have
Speaker 1: that little pizza. That pizza might be worth several hundred calories, right,
Speaker 1: so now you take that seven hundred calories. Now you
Speaker 1: have what we said fifty hundred. So now you have
Speaker 1: several hundred and fifty left, eight hundred left to go.
Speaker 1: So you just work around that and as long as
Speaker 1: you stay there, then this ship drops. Yeah, but nobody
Speaker 1: has and you gotta drink. That's behind your sholder. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. That's that's my point. My
Speaker 1: point is, you gotta have that bread, and you want
Speaker 1: somebody you respect to. You don't want somebody you don't respect, saying, hey,
Speaker 1: put that cheesecake down, like put the funk up, make
Speaker 1: him now that the cheefecake. You want somebody, you know
Speaker 1: what I say, You want somebody even respect. So he
Speaker 1: got a couple of dudes that like, we got something
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm saying. It was just
Speaker 1: like yo, you know, over the room, you have that
Speaker 1: chicken na. But they were just like, you know, letting
Speaker 1: them know, like because that's the one thing, but showing too.
Speaker 1: For certain, nothing's worse than trying to do something and
Speaker 1: not accomplishing that goal. You know what I'm saying, so
Speaker 1: if you set out to do something, and um, that's
Speaker 1: one thing. I guess he's focused, like he's he was
Speaker 1: serious Like the last a couple of times I've seen him,
Speaker 1: I got on a drink. I did not get him
Speaker 1: to drink this time. I don't think he's a big drinker.
Speaker 1: He's never been a big drinker. He's seaful, yallow and
Speaker 1: rock and yeah, he's kidding him and told him he
Speaker 1: didn't got a drink drink. I think that's when he's
Speaker 1: scared though too. I got that way sober. I think
Speaker 1: he thinks he's gonna get here, he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: shot taking ball. He's gonna start talking about don't drink
Speaker 1: on drink. Yeah, we don't mind it because we'll get
Speaker 1: the f joe. But it was here. I didn't drink
Speaker 1: nine due the first episode. I didn't drink. First time.
Speaker 1: You didn't drink the first time, Luke, Luke didn't. Luke
Speaker 1: didn't drink. I think he didn't smoke because he because
Speaker 1: high school, we all smoke like we didn't smoke in
Speaker 1: front of True Life and either of these for all right,
Speaker 1: come on, people were coming here. You know what I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: just getting when you talk ourselves. Yea like ship should
Speaker 1: be really like people were scared to come in. Who
Speaker 1: else said they were scared? Joel Santanna. A lot of
Speaker 1: artists done scared because I see Juel, She's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I gotta prep for this ship, I said, And then
Speaker 1: you don't gonna work out they come to drink care
Speaker 1: just come on, here we go. We're good man for listen, man,
Speaker 1: I want to thank both of you, brother, thank you,
Speaker 1: because again, in our culture, in our generation, none of
Speaker 1: us back each other up. Everyone wants to compete with
Speaker 1: each other. Everyone wants to say how much better they
Speaker 1: are the next man, or how much more do they
Speaker 1: put it into this game as the next man. I
Speaker 1: wanted to stop that. I wanted to have a show
Speaker 1: where we could sit down and just give people their
Speaker 1: flywers where they can smell them. They thought us, where
Speaker 1: they can tell them they drinks, where they can drink them,
Speaker 1: and they you know, they thought us where they can
Speaker 1: think of I know it's a little little scary, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But it's it's real ship. It's
Speaker 1: real ship because none of us, our community is just
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. No more where we just say, you know,
Speaker 1: you're a great job man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I respect what you're doing. It's they say
Speaker 1: that's thick rider nowadays, Like if I say your good job,
Speaker 1: you know this dick like, that's that's not that's not
Speaker 1: that's not real man ship. I'm a man. I can
Speaker 1: say great job, drain like the way you took that picture,
Speaker 1: you don't mean nothing. That means that's I'm big enough,
Speaker 1: great art, big enough, great work. But in this generation,
Speaker 1: they will try to make you seem like you're a dick,
Speaker 1: right or your your you know, one of them the
Speaker 1: foul names that they use, And that's that shouldn't be it.
Speaker 1: We should say great job. We shouldn't say your bags. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. I'm proud of how you came
Speaker 1: home and you just took to the ground running, and
Speaker 1: you should be saluted, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: feel like in this generation that they try to trying
Speaker 1: to take that away, and I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1: I want us to always as a culture. And when
Speaker 1: I say as a culture, that doesn't mean ratio, that
Speaker 1: means hip hop. Believe hip hop is a race. Believe
Speaker 1: when you vote a couple of years you say you
Speaker 1: said you should check black then hip hop. Well look
Speaker 1: it's seriously, it's good that you guys got a platform
Speaker 1: like that because y'all able to give people a voice,
Speaker 1: right so you said it earlier. How do you do
Speaker 1: it or how do you reach younger kids or speak?
Speaker 1: But it's platforms like this because it's not many, especially
Speaker 1: like what new artists you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: St John like to be on the cusp or something,
Speaker 1: not trying to do it after it already took off
Speaker 1: and had success. What you would you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You guys had a foresight to see that ship. So
Speaker 1: it's platforms like this that that's what's helping hip hop. Well,
Speaker 1: well thank you, because this is what I want to
Speaker 1: continue to do. I want us a culture to continue
Speaker 1: to pick each other up because it's it's y'all bottle man.
Speaker 1: If everyone is riched and you know what, what what
Speaker 1: who can be the crutches? You know why? I don't
Speaker 1: forget how it goes, but nobody can forms. Everybody le
Speaker 1: each other crush exactly man. And while we're in that
Speaker 1: spirit too, you're giving flowers, fan your self some flower
Speaker 1: you did a lot. Let's tell you something you don't
Speaker 1: never got to do because I wake up in the morning,
Speaker 1: I need myself flowers. Ain't day I'd be like, nigga,
Speaker 1: you the ship, you ain't gonna work flower girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got higher myself myself, little girl, let's come out here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: grown up listening right now? He was wild nigger, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta n o y E stands. That's really stand
Speaker 1: for niggas on the running. I'm not hearing running, but
Speaker 1: I ain't that I wrote that album. You should take
Speaker 1: a shot to that. Hold up. We got god there
Speaker 1: wrong with you? That one you don't like, doesn't worry.
Speaker 1: That's don't blowing up right. I'm figured other. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta drink that one. Person. That's just oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta drink that one. Like I ain't gonna miss
Speaker 1: a leaf. You can hit me a little heavier, hit
Speaker 1: me a little I'm not going to driving me to night. Paul, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know you gotta remote that at the place we're
Speaker 1: in right now, Like when we came up, there wasn't
Speaker 1: a lot of different people of color that you could
Speaker 1: look up to that has success where you say, oh
Speaker 1: I can do that. It was just sports music or
Speaker 1: you was hustling. So now you've got people like Maverick
Speaker 1: lebron Right, Steve Stout, he was to do rich Rich Faul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's all a part of Okay, that's that same fruit.
Speaker 1: Because we're trying to get Anthony Davis, the Lakers man,
Speaker 1: we have to see all those people in the different
Speaker 1: you know, different businesses. It give us a lot of
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, young young kids hope at
Speaker 1: different apvenues to get out. So I'm not m imna
Speaker 1: wake up. I'm gonna wake up a flatbush and I
Speaker 1: know I got there, Zombi after this ship is good. Well,
Speaker 1: since when you becamele to kill a drinker, I've been
Speaker 1: drinking to skail for a few years, and jail was
Speaker 1: count There wasn't killer the jail. It was but drinking
Speaker 1: to kill while I drink everything. Okay, now you're a
Speaker 1: really drinking. I don't know where literally beer came from.
Speaker 1: It was by the way. He started out as a
Speaker 1: rum drink. I've always been a rum drinking and then
Speaker 1: I was a bad turning. I was amazing, I was amazing.
Speaker 1: I've been just Bocardia. I mean, I like BOCARTI not
Speaker 1: to make this corper diplomatical for sure? Or what's the
Speaker 1: nick Robin Rosa? They I said, Rob Flood, you gotta
Speaker 1: stop doing come home. Brother. Don't know about me drinking beer. No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it was funny because I used to
Speaker 1: drink beer all the time and used to drink the
Speaker 1: hard look because of my lady man and then my
Speaker 1: ladies to three yo. What's the game man, drink chance?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, we're family're gonna want to
Speaker 1: take pictures with y'all. So we want to thank you all,
Speaker 1: you know for just coming through because this is a
Speaker 1: real show. Come through again. Let's come through again. You're alumni,
Speaker 1: you know. Say I got to get you a chain.
Speaker 1: Get you a chain? Now? How we cannot not talk
Speaker 1: about rocket fell Yes, I'm might use the backs to pass. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think I got it somewhere about so y'all know
Speaker 1: at that time I had two originals. I gave norin
Speaker 1: my original rocket of my neck. Where we were at
Speaker 1: in the village somewhere village so like my park, I
Speaker 1: remember we did that. Just think we took we took
Speaker 1: the pictures. Never signed a contract. We worked the record
Speaker 1: the business running talk song of all time, work the
Speaker 1: record without the album. Yeah, that's a whole of that
Speaker 1: could have produced it. It's true, but in my undersigned
Speaker 1: the contract and we don't know when the show and listen,
Speaker 1: listen you wanted it. No, you ear his side and
Speaker 1: you know, you know singles have rocket fellow lows have
Speaker 1: a single. Yeah, this was some three h sign Now
Speaker 1: I got you sign it. I let little listen. We
Speaker 1: paid for the video. Yeah, you know we did everything. No,
Speaker 1: it's not you. I like to get away with your
Speaker 1: story for Yeah. I was begging them. They were so rich.
Speaker 1: I was like, give me the contract. It was like
Speaker 1: we got you fam the nigga didn't care. I let
Speaker 1: you get a story. But that's how that's how they
Speaker 1: ran the building because Cam was supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: Every bird came was supposed to roll it over, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like this roll because we're careful.
Speaker 1: I was. I would have man, I would imagine because
Speaker 1: I was like you already, like just get to me,
Speaker 1: and he's just like, no, be good as long as
Speaker 1: things as long as these do. I wasn't like leaving listening.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring the chain out so we can at
Speaker 1: least see what want I don't make. The boy with
Speaker 1: the un was on the listening. Man, I'm gonna duplicated.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Julia and be like you're making the
Speaker 1: gold some scritching, saying that motherfucker the tickets it gold. Like.
Speaker 1: That's that's where the story gets complicated, because I had both,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember when I ain't gonna live as
Speaker 1: somebody gave him both. I was taking a lot of
Speaker 1: eggs and c and modegyang. Listen, man, I'm still affected,
Speaker 1: but by the ship I was doing back then. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, sometimes I wake up, I don't
Speaker 1: be knowing what listen. I won't up. The other day
Speaker 1: I had an old dream that I'm smoking cigarettes, having
Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes in a year, make some money for that guy,
Speaker 1: and the listen isn't my house. I'm I'm gonna turn
Speaker 1: up the balcony. Got there then when you're not not
Speaker 1: really you can't call it the terrorist. You ain't gonna lie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but listen, listen, because we're keeping good body. We gotta
Speaker 1: get out of we gotta get out there. I gotta
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta fiss first. Please, don't want to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom first. I've been holding this this
Speaker 1: whole time. I wanted to say thank you, guys. I
Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you because this is what it is.
Speaker 1: This is a hip hop show for hip hop people,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep this ship hip hop st John Man.
Speaker 1: We don't understand what you're doing. We're proud of what
Speaker 1: the you doing. We want to be the first show
Speaker 1: to say that we knew that, to put you on here.
Speaker 1: We recognize. So when a year later or two years later,
Speaker 1: when you're the biggest thing in the world, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, We're gonna pull out this spot and say
Speaker 1: we talk. We know that we will do that. Were
Speaker 1: like that claim your prop you gonna You're gonna give
Speaker 1: your credit because you know why one thing for show
Speaker 1: up to them a certain It's like he just said
Speaker 1: that about Jay earlier. He said he doesn't does jail
Speaker 1: do not for money. This is the same way. This
Speaker 1: dude ain't doing that for money. He's doing something because
Speaker 1: he's passionate about it, he believes, he believes in it.
Speaker 1: He don't funk with any trust me. I try to
Speaker 1: get into funk with so many different things, and if
Speaker 1: he wasn't about it, he ain't about it. And that's
Speaker 1: that's that's genuine. You ain't gonna find that in this game.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, cherish that ship and make motherfucking
Speaker 1: couple of million dollars, my dude, and the next time Mr.
Speaker 1: Child's on, you got damn