1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: This is the with your host JJ zach zachar What's 2 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: up everyone. It's JJ Zacharice and the editor in chief 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: over at number fire dot com And this is episode 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: twenty four of the Late Round podcast, one of the 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: many shows that are part of the number fire podcast network. 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. There are literally thousands of apps 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: that you can download on your phone to help manage 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: things better. Not just calendar apps either, but app set 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: help you split a bill with someone, that help you 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: pay your bills, that help you remember things. 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An app like doodle is 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: there to remove any pencil and paper scheduling work that 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to do. An app like podcasts allows you 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: to listen to my annoying voice and some ridiculously stupid 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: air horns two plus times per week, instead of having 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: to get some sort of physical copy of each recording 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: or listen to it on a radio. That I think 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: is why everyone has fallen in love with best ball 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: leagues and fantasy football. As popular as season long leagues are, 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: there's a large group of people that get annoyed by 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: the management aspect of the game. Managing rosters is, if 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: we're being honest, clutter to some fantasy owners, people just 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: want to freaking draft and never think about their rosters. Again. 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: That's where best ball leagues come in. In a best 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: ball league, you're drafting a set number of players to 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: fulfill typical roster requirements, but instead of making start sit 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: decisions each week, and instead of playing the waiver wire 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: and making trades, your drafted team is optimized in hindsight 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: for you each week. For instance, let's say that you're 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: in a season long league and you have to start 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: two running backs. You've got David Johnson, Matt Forte in 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah Crowell to choose from. In almost any circumstance, you're 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: benching Matt Forte. The dude is a geriatric at the 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: position and he's in an offense with an over under 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: of like three touchdowns this season. You feel good about 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: things heading into Locke early Sunday afternoon. On Monday, you 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: look at your roster to see that Matt Forte scored 46 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: forty six Fantasy points on your bench, Isaiah Crowell scored 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: just ten points, and you lose as a result of 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: that decision. Now, I'm one of the believers that you 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: already won as long as your decision was optimal, which 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: it was because Matt Forte isn't a special player in 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: a special situation. But it still hurts, It still sucks, 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: It still gives you that sinking feeling in your gut. 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: In a Best ball league, though, Matt Forte would have 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: been in your lineup because your lineup optimizes for you. 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Best ball leagues have been around for a while, but 56 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: My Fantasy League dot Com has made them super popular 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: over the last few years with their MFL ten game, 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: which is where you draft in twelve team leagues, costing 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: ten dollars per team. If you win the league, you 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: win one hundred dollars. Each roster in an MFL ten 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: consists of twenty players, where the lineup optimized each week 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: gives you a quarterback, two running backs, three wide outs, 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: a tight end of flex and a defense. The scoring 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: is just like most PPR leagues. Naturally, there's a ton 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: of strategy involved with this type of format. Since you're 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: no longer making start sit decisions, the psychology of a 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: fantasy owner and drafter completely changes. You have to ask 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: questions like how many defenses should I roster when the 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: answer to that is almost always one in any sort 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: of normal league. Because you're not managing the actual roster 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: in season, you've got to make sure it's right from 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: the start, and there are ways to increase your probability 73 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: of making it right. That's why on today's episode, I'm 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: bringing on Mike Beers of rodoviz dot com, who's done 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: some incredible strategy related work on MFL tens. Now, Mike, 76 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: let's say someone who's played season long fantasy football for 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: years is starting his or her first best ball draft. 78 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: What do you think is the key thing, the one 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: thing that person should understand or note when it comes 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: to the difference between a best ball team and a 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: typical season long team. 82 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: That's a great question, So I would start with one 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: of the most obvious differences in the way the game's played, 84 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: and that's there are no waivers during the year, and 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: that makes a big difference in terms of how you 86 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: approach the draft. You're not going to be able to 87 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: pick up a backup if one of your guys gets hurt. 88 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: That means you're going to need depth at each position 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: beyond just covering bye weeks. And you know you're not 90 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: going to be able to stream. So you know, I 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: think a lot of your listeners are probably big on 92 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: quarterback streaming, and you know, the way you do that 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: in a best ball draft is maybe you draft three 94 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: of them later on if you don't want to pay 95 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: up for an early quarterback, instead of just stopping it too, 96 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: because if one of them gets hurt, you're going to 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: be stuck with a mediocre guy every single week. So 98 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: you need to have you need to be thinking about 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: that risk position. 100 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: So you know, you mentioned that you often will have 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes if you're looking at those later round quarterbacks, you 102 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: might have three of them. What does your typical MFL 103 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: ten team look like from a roster construction standpoint? How 104 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: many quarterbacks, how many running backs? How many of these 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: players do you own? Take us on a journey through 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: the mind of Mike Beers as you're drafting to come 107 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: up with those numbers. 108 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: All right, well, it's not one answer. I don't think 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: there's one optimal construction for your roster. 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: In these drafts. 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: Typically it'll be a range quarterback between two to three, 112 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: never less than two, never more than three, running back 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: between three to six, wide receiver six to nine, tight 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: end two to three, and defense. I almost always go 115 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: with three, and I'll give you my rationale behind or 116 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: how I choose within those ranges as I draft. Usually 117 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: it's the onesie positions, the quarterback, tight end, and defense 118 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: that dictate how I'm going to proach the draft. 119 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: You know, if and I'm going to choose whether. 120 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: I draft two or three at each of those positions, 121 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: depending on how strong my early picks are at those 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: at those positions. So, if I wanted to go quarterback early, 123 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: say Drew Brees is a guy like he often falls 124 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: a little farther than I think he should, I get 125 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: him in the sixth or seventh round. That informs me 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: that I'm only going to be taking two quarterbacks because 127 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: I've already spent a significant amount of draft capital on 128 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: quarterback and he's a more consistent guy. I don't need 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: as much of that depth or or insurance that I 130 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: was referring to in the first question. 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: And then the same thing with tight end. 132 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: So you know, another guy I really like is Greg Olsen. 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: He's usually there in the fifth round, sometimes the sixth. 134 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: If I get him, I think he has a great 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: floor and I'm not going to use up, you know, 136 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: that third roster spot for tight end because you know, 137 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: I want a second guy has a little bit of 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: a ssurance to cover all since by week, but I'll 139 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: stop it too. And that means, you know, given that 140 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm probably taking three defenses with my last three picks, 141 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: that leaves me with I think thirteen or fourteen spots 142 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: for wide receiver and running back, and. 143 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: That how I allocate that is entirely. 144 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: Driven by the first few rounds of the draft. I'm 145 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: not thinking about how I'm going to build my roster 146 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: as I make my first you know, five or six picks. 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: I'm just taking who I think are the best values, 148 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: the players I like best in those rounds. You know 149 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: how it happens to fall in the particular draft. And 150 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: if I come out of the fifth round with four 151 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: wide receivers and no running backs. I'm going to I'm 152 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: probably going to end up with six running backs as 153 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: opposed to the lower end of the range and vice 154 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: versa with wide receivers. So it's really you know, when 155 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: I log into I know I'm on the clock. I 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: log into my Fantasy League, first thing I do is 157 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: I look at how many players at each position I 158 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: have on that particular team, and that's how I prioritize 159 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: how I'm going to make my next pick. 160 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: So you mentioned with the quarterback and the tight ends, 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: the onesie positions, if you will, you mentioned that you 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: at times do take them fairly early, you know, fifth, sixth, 163 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: seventh round. Do you see yourself taking tight ends more 164 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: often early than quarterbacks due to the general predictability of 165 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: the position, or are you just kind of going by 166 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: value In what you see. 167 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: It's mostly driven by value. 168 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: And what that has meant so far is that I 169 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: have taken more early quarterbacks than I think I typically do. 170 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: You know, I've liked the values in particular Brady and Breeze. 171 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: I have a fair amount of exposure to them and 172 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: tight end outside of Olson, you know, I think they're 173 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: they're pretty well priced. So you know, I only have 174 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: a few of the early guys there. But what I 175 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: expect to happen in this happens every single year is 176 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: by the time August rolls around, will have a lot 177 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: more people in the drafts. You know, it won't be 178 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: as many of the folks like you and I who 179 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: are more analysts in these drafts, and quarterbacks will start 180 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: going earlier. So at that point I'm more likely to 181 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: you know, abandon the guys like Brady and Breeze. They'll 182 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: move up a round or two and I'll move to 183 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: a three quarterback construction, taking them in, you know, sort 184 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: of the tenth, eleventh, twelfth, thirteenth range. 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: You know you mentioned with the range of the number 186 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: of running backs that you will select is between three 187 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: to five or sorry, three to six. I know that 188 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: a lot of most best ball drafters will select four 189 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: or five, or six or maybe even seven at times 190 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: running backs to complete their roster construction. But prior to 191 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: last season, you wrote a somewhat controversial, if we're being honest, 192 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: article on rotoviz dot com about hyperfugility and how drafters 193 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: should actually select a running back in each of the 194 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: first three rounds to sort of satisfy all of their 195 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: running back needs. And I know that you just mentioned 196 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: that there are times where you only draft three running backs, 197 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: So can you kind of explain the thought process behind 198 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: your analysis from that article, and if you know, is 199 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: that something that you're continuing to imploy and use this season. 200 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was last year. Something I know a lot 201 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: of people noticed. 202 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: There wasn't anything special about me seeing this, was that 203 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: running backs were going a lot later in the draft, 204 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: particularly in the early rounds. You know, in the in 205 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: previous years, you'd see you know, maybe eight running backs 206 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: go in the first round or you know, sixteen in 207 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: the first two rounds. Last year, you could you could 208 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: go into a draft and just assume that you were 209 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: going to get three of the top twelve to fifteen 210 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: running backs off the board with your first three picks if. 211 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: You wanted to. 212 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: And that was that was really new, And you know 213 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: that that didn't mean it was the best thing to do, 214 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: but it's what made me look into, you know, maybe 215 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: there's something we can do here, maybe this is an inefficiency. 216 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: So I started looking at, Okay, you know, what are 217 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: these top running backs usually produce? If it's not a 218 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen season when they all. 219 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: Die, you know. 220 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: And what I found was, if you have three of 221 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: those guys, you know, you only have to start two 222 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: running backs each week, and if you know you have 223 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: a third one so that you have somebody available during 224 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: bye weeks, you really can get a lot of production 225 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: if you have three or even like two and a 226 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: half elite guys at the position for those starting positions. 227 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: And what that means is you can load up at 228 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: wide receiver through volume. So I ended up suggesting you 229 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: take nine wide receivers, which is really the high end 230 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: of the range. I think I would never go higher 231 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: than that, and to go with these three running backs. 232 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: And the idea was with nine wide receivers, you know 233 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 2: I would try to target it didn't really matter so much, 234 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: but I would try to target guys who were sort 235 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: of higher upside, you know, a guy like Deshaun Jackson 236 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: who could have a big week. And because I had 237 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: nine of them, you know, it didn't matter on his 238 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: on his bad weeks, I had the other guys to cover. 239 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,359 Speaker 2: You ended up creating this sort of very high average 240 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: base out of the wide receivers. I recommended three quarterbacks 241 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: and then the tight ends and deep and it came 242 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: down to okay, so if these running backs pan out 243 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: and really only you only needed two of them to do, 244 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, so return their price, you had a very 245 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: good shot at winning your league and that and that 246 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: was the real important aspect of it. 247 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: You know, these MFL tens. 248 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: I think we're going to talk about the new format 249 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: a little later, but you know, they're really winner take all. 250 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: So I wanted to you know, I wanted a high 251 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: variance strategy with a very high ceiling, and I didn't 252 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: really care about the floor. So if two of my 253 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: running backs got injured, you know, the way I built it, yeah, 254 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: I was gonna lose you know, good shot eleven, eleventh 255 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: or twelfth place. But if two or three of them 256 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: did stay healthy and you know, return those RB one numbers, 257 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: I had a very good chance at outright winning the league. 258 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: And that's what you're trying to do. 259 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: And it ended up working out pretty well. 260 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean, last year was not it wasn't phenomenal for 261 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: running backs, but it was. 262 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 3: It was pretty good. It was more like a normal year. 263 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: We know, we had three guys in particular who were 264 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: very good, the DJ Zeke and Bell but it's sort 265 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: of normalized and you know, more often than not, well 266 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: not more often than not. Actually that's an important point 267 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: when when I would implement this strategy, and my expectation 268 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: in an individual draft was that I was going to lose, 269 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: because you only need to win better than one out 270 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: of ten to make a profit in these in these drafts. 271 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: So you know, as long as more than one out 272 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: of ten times my running backs came through, I had 273 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: a very good shot at winning the league. And it 274 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: worked out pretty well last year. The the exact roster 275 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: construction I recommended the three running backs, nine wide receivers, 276 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: three defenses, two tight ends, three quarterbacks. Ended up with 277 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: the highest win rate out of all possible constructions last year, 278 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: which was very cool to see. And you know, and 279 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to this year, you know, last year, 280 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many people read the article, and 281 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: certainly people were very skeptical, you know, so not a 282 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: lot of people tried. 283 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: It. 284 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Was kind of a small sample I have supporting my 285 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: my good win rate. But this year, more people are 286 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: doing it, and I'm a little worried the win rate's 287 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: gonna come down because not only are more people doing it, 288 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: but running backs have gotten more expensive this year. That's 289 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: kind of what happens, you know. They you know, after 290 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: a good year, they get expensive. After a bad year, 291 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: they get cheap. Though I am still doing it myself, 292 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: you know, when the opportunity presents itself. I just can't 293 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: go into every draft thinking, all right, I'm just going 294 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: to do a hyperfragile draft like I did last year. 295 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's. 296 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: Particularly when I have an early pick, say, like you know, 297 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: top three, if I can get Bell or David Johnson 298 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: or Zeke you know, usually around the two three turn, 299 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: I can get a couple more running backs I like, 300 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: particularly if it's a guy like you know, DeMarco Murray 301 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: slips a little bit, or you know Lamar Miller's actually 302 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: he's gotten even cheaper, but he's usually available there as 303 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: the third running back. 304 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: I'm happy to go with a hyperfragile approach with those 305 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: three guys. 306 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: So I think a huge takeaway there is that when 307 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: you're doing these MFL tens, specifically MFL tens, like you said, 308 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into the new format in a second, 309 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: but when you're doing these MFL tens, you have to 310 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: think in a different way. You have to think in 311 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: that win first way, that win only way, because that's 312 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: really all that matters in the end is that you 313 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: have to get a w and you have to get 314 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: first place. So I think that's a huge takeaway is 315 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: that your roster on paper might feel a little bit 316 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: uncomfortable because you do only have three running backs and 317 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: that feels a little weird because you know that you're 318 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: not going to be able to adjust for that in season. 319 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: But like you said, you're also playing to maximize your 320 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: value and get first place. And that's one of the 321 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: reasons why I think that strategy was able to be 322 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: successful because you look strictly at the numbers and what 323 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: they were dictating, what they were showing you, rather than 324 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: going what just felt comfortable psychologically. So that I think 325 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: is a huge huge takeaway there. 326 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's really important. 327 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: And it's hard to go into a draft, you know, 328 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: thinking I'm going to implement this strategy that you know 329 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: odds are is not going to work in this particular draft. 330 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's really it's suited for people who are 331 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: playing a lot of these things. You know, I played 332 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: close close to one hundred last year, But at the 333 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: same time, you know, the expected value on that one draft, 334 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: even if you're not expecting to win, it is positive 335 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: because of the way the payouts work. 336 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: So you've done a lot of data mining to show 337 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: which players have given owners the highest win rates over 338 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. How important do you think 339 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: that type of information is? How can MFL ten drafters 340 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: use player win rate knowledge to better themselves in the 341 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: current season. I think a good example of this is 342 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe Drew Brees, who you brought up, who was the 343 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: highest most winning this quarterback last season? I believe, But 344 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: how you know is that a reason why you're targeting 345 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: him is the discrepancy between him and other quarterbacks which 346 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: is not as great as say a running back and 347 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is that something that you think about as 348 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: well when it comes to win rates? How do you 349 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: kind of incorporate that data? 350 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there are a couple of ways to look 351 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: at it. First of all, I I just really like 352 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: the stat in general because it both combines how well 353 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: the player did and how much they cost. 354 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: Right, you know a. 355 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: Guy in the first round who did really well, with 356 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: the exception of David Johnson because he did so well 357 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: last year. You know, if he does well he was 358 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: supposed to and you know, he kind of gave you 359 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 2: what you were supposed to get. And his win rate 360 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: is probably about average usually, but you know, a guy 361 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: in the tenth round who produces those same results gets 362 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: a very high win rate. And that's really what it's 363 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: all about, is finding that value and talking about Drew Brees, 364 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: you know, looking at his win rate, something you can 365 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: take away from that is, you know, his win rate 366 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: was about thirteen percent. You know, average is just over 367 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: eight percent, so that that's very good, solid number. But 368 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: the important thing about that is he would Hey, he 369 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: had the highest win rate, and that's not especially high. 370 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: When you look at running backs or wide receivers or 371 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: even tight ends, you know, they can get up to 372 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: twenty percent twenty five. I think David Johnson was close 373 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: to thirty percent. So the takeaway there for me is 374 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: don't put all your eggs in one quarterback basket. You know, 375 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: if you want to make a big bet, do it 376 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: in another position. You know, I said, you know, I'm 377 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: buying a lot of Drew Brees, but you know the 378 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: fact is I'm up to around thirty drafts and a 379 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: lot is you know, seven or just five or six 380 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: shares right now, right So I'm not taking him in 381 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: half of my drafts. I'm not really going crazy there. 382 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm just taking him when he falls. 383 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: But you know, with. 384 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: Wide receivers and running backs, there's some guys in the 385 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: later rounds that you really like, they really can pay off. 386 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 2: You know, they're they're more than a handful of guys 387 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: over fifteen percent every year at those positions. So you know, 388 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: it does inform how you allocate your risk, I think. 389 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: And then the other thing I use it for is 390 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 2: I like to I think of it in terms of 391 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: where do these high win rates sort of live in 392 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: the draft, you know, and that tells me where to 393 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: target certain positions. One thing that that's really been helpful 394 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: is looking at running back win rates. People love to 395 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: find the sleeper running back. You know, it's and somebody 396 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: does emerge every year, Multiple people do emerge every year, and. 397 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: It's great to have that guy on your roster. 398 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: But the fact is, you know, after about the twelfth 399 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: or thirteenth round, if you look back at the last 400 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: few years, win rates are pretty abysmal across the board. 401 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: It's just really, really hard to find a running back 402 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: who's going to add a lot of value increase your 403 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: chances of winning that late Whereas wide receivers you've actually got, 404 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: you know, a bunch. 405 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: Of guys you know every year. 406 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: You know, there's Brandon Lafel last year, a couple of 407 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: years before that, you know, Doug Baldwin was a big one. 408 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: These guys are going in. 409 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: The late teams, and that what that tells me is, Okay, 410 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 2: when I get to that part of the draft, I 411 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: want to have running backs sewn up, and I want 412 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: to be targeting wide receivers. 413 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to have to count on that really 414 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: low probability bet in the late rounds. And then likewise 415 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 3: at other positions. 416 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 2: You know, I've looked at quarterback in particular. A lot 417 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: of the highest win rates over the past few years 418 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: have been in the sort of by ADP quarterback ten 419 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: to sixteen seventeen range. That's, you know, sort of the 420 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: mid rounds, early double digit rounds, or where you find 421 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: those guys because you're not paying too much for them. 422 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: You know, Breeze was an exception, but he was actually. 423 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: Relatively cheap last year too, And you know, so a 424 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: guy I really like in that range. 425 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: This year is Cam Newton. 426 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: He's fallen down to you know, sort of eighth ninth 427 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: round range, and you know he had a bad year 428 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: last year, so I understand why. But when you look 429 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: at the upside and the fact that you can pair 430 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: him with another guy in that same range for relatively cheap, 431 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: I really like the potential there and those that's really 432 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: the range I like to target unless one of those 433 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: early guys really falls down, you know, farther than expected. 434 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: So that's how I use that information, just looking for 435 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: these pockets the draft where sort of your over year 436 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: you can find those big winners. 437 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: So we mentioned already that your goal in these MFL 438 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: tens is to get first place, because that's how you 439 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: get a return on your investment. And seeking variance in 440 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: a best ball draft then seems obvious because you want 441 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: to capture upside in a team where you're aiming to 442 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: get first and only first place. But variants can be 443 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: described in a lot of different ways. For instance, a 444 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver who's a deep threat would be considered volatile, 445 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: but a wide receiver who's risky because of injury or 446 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: a potential suspension issue, like Martavis Bryant, that could also 447 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: be considered volatile. So how do you look at variants 448 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: in these best ball drafts? What types of things are 449 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: you looking for in players at each position? 450 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I love this question because a lot of 451 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: people don't think about volatility this second way, the in 452 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: terms of injury or suspension risk, and I think it 453 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: is important to think about both in terms of understanding 454 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: how risky the guy you're picking is and making sure 455 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: you have a decent amount exposure to these high ceiling, 456 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: low floor kind of guys, particularly at wide receiver, where 457 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: you're generally drafting more of them so you have some 458 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: more backup in case they. 459 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: Don't pan out. 460 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: But you know, like the the Marteves Bryant question, you know, 461 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: he his ceiling very very high. We've seen what he 462 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: can do on the field, we've seen him produce. But 463 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: there's a chance, you you know, you could get one 464 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: game out of him, you know, two games out of 465 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: these six games out of it. You know, hopefully he played, 466 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: you know, I hope he plays the whole year, but 467 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: there are issues that are there that we can't control 468 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: and we can't really predict. We just know it's a risk, 469 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: and I kind of had it kind of dawned on 470 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: me last year that that doesn't make him or a 471 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: player like him, a bad investment. When I was looking 472 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: at Le'Veon Bell, he you know, I think two seasons 473 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: ago he started off with that suspension. 474 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: It dropped his price in drafts. 475 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: And you know, he missed a few games, but when 476 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: he played, he had, you know, one of the highest 477 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: point per game totals of all running backs. And every 478 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: single week that he played, he was in your starting 479 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: lineup and he was an elite performer. 480 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 3: And you know that just meant and that was extremely valuable. 481 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: You you took him knowing that you had you know, 482 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: uh uh, you know, three or four guys behind him 483 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: during those first three weeks of the year or or 484 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: if he got injured, and you really want those monster weeks, 485 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: So you need to target that kind of guy. You know, 486 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: you mentioned the deep threats. A couple of guys coming 487 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: to mind. You know, I mentioned to Sean Jackson, guys 488 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: like Devonte Parker, ted Ted Gan Exactly, he's a guy 489 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: I've been buying a lot of now that he has 490 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: a boy breeze thrown in the ball. And you know, 491 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: because you're taking so many of these guys and you 492 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: don't have to guess which week they're going to hit. 493 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 2: That's the crucial, you know part of it. You don't 494 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: you don't have to figure it out. You're not setting 495 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: your lineup. You want a lot of these guys, and 496 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: the fact that you have such a big roster creates 497 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: the floor on its own. You know, if you think 498 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: about it, you know, I have a background in finance. 499 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: If if you think about it from a portfolio kind 500 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: of investment perspective, these are uncorrelated assets, these wide receivers. 501 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's Ted Ginn going off one week has 502 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: nothing to do with Marvin Jones going off that week 503 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 2: or not. And when you package these together, given that 504 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: they're not correlated, you know, there's a good chance one 505 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: or three or you know, you need at least three 506 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: of them going off in a given week is going 507 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: to happen, and that creates the floor for you, even 508 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: though one individual guy may not have any kind of floor. 509 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big difference to a season long where 510 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: in season long, you're actually having to predict when those 511 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: games are going to happen. But in these best ball leagues, 512 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to predict it. And therefore you can 513 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: get that auto floor if you will, by just getting 514 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: those higher variance guys. I love that answer. We've been 515 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: we've been teasing this a bit, but my Fantasy League 516 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: launched what they call two X leagues last week where 517 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: MFL tens are essentially double ups rather than leagues where 518 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: you've got to win to take home some cash. So 519 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: in your mind, how should how should drafters change their 520 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: strategy as a result of that? 521 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: So so this is actually this has been pretty funny 522 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: to me because every mention I've seen of this format, 523 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: you know, sort of on Twitter or conversations I've had 524 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: with people, they've said something along the lines of, you know. 525 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: I'm probably more likely to take. 526 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: Three defenses, more likely to take three three quarterbacks or 527 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: three tight ends, you know, to get that floor, you know, 528 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: whereas before they might have been shooting, you know, throwing 529 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: some darts at late wide receivers or. 530 00:25:59,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: Something like that. 531 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: And I haven't done all of the legwork, all the 532 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: math or anything yet, but it's my intuition is totally 533 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: the opposite, and it's related to what I was just 534 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: saying about wide receivers. The way you reduce variants is 535 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: not by having fewer wide receivers who are these very 536 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: volatile guys. It's by having more of them, you know. 537 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: And I've talked about in podcasts in the past and 538 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: related to the three running back strategy. You know, I 539 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: was going, I was creating volatility by making a concentrated. 540 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: Bet on a few guys, you know. 541 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: And that's what you would do if you, you know, 542 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: say every draft you went into you took three quarterbacks, 543 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: three tight ends, three defenses. That implies that you're betting 544 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: on relatively few wide receivers and running backs, and you 545 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: have to be right. You know, if you're wrong on 546 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: two of those running backs, then you know your toast. 547 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: You're not going to finish in the top five. You'll 548 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: you'll get you know, a boost. 549 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: At those. 550 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: Those onesie positions, and you know, I like to take 551 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: that boost in the normal format the winner take all, 552 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: because I know I'm making a concentrated bet and if 553 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: it turns out right, I love having those free points 554 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: along with it. So if somebody else got their draft right, 555 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: it'll give me an edge on top of them. But 556 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: in these fifty to fifties, you know, I think there's 557 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: not you know, it's a small amount of points. It's 558 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: sort of a small but relatively certain amount of points 559 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 2: that you gain from like a third defense, right, And 560 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think that's enough to push 561 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: you into the top half of your league. 562 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 3: So what I would rather do is. 563 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: Use that extra you know, use that space for another 564 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: volatile guy who, while he's volatile, he's going to reduce 565 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: the overall volatility of my you know, quote unquote portfolio. 566 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: So that's my approach. 567 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: And I haven't done a big study on this or anything, 568 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: but that's my instinct. And I found it interesting that 569 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: it's pretty much counter to what I've heard from everyone 570 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: else on this subject. 571 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense. You have a wide receiver, 572 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: which is probably the most important position in these things 573 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: to begin with, just because you're essentially starting four each 574 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: week because of the PPR format. And then on top 575 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: of that, you want to make sure because you're not 576 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: trying to obtain variants, you're trying to make sure that 577 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: you're just getting in the top half of your league 578 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: and finishing that way. You want to provide that baseline 579 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: and have that baseline at the most important position. So 580 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: that makes total sense, and I think people might be 581 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: a little shocked to hear the logic because they'll listen 582 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: to it and say, man, why did I not think 583 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: of it that way? So I think that's a great, 584 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: great answer. Before I let you go, Mike, I want 585 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: you to give listeners one player at each position, including defense, 586 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: just because it's fun that they should be drafting in 587 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: Best Ball leagues this year. 588 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm tipping my hand because I'm going 589 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: to give some guys I have the most exposure to. 590 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: Let's see, at quarterback, I'm gonna go with Dak Prescott. 591 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: I love the price on him. 592 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: He finished as in this format quarterback six last year 593 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: and he's currently going as the thirteenth off the board. 594 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: And when I look at that team, I just I 595 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: don't really see a reason for him to regress very much. 596 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: I know he was very efficient, but the team itself 597 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: should should be just as good as better or better, 598 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: and he's entering his second year with more experience, des 599 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: is healthy. I just love him at his price, and 600 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: I've been buying. And then at running back, it's funny, 601 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: I my guy is going to be mark ingram on 602 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: the Saints, So I was I was buying him before 603 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson came because I just I liked him and 604 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: the the offense and the and the price though it 605 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: was much higher than it is now. And then once 606 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson, you know, joined the team. 607 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: If you look at. 608 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: Ingram's ADP over time, I like to use the road 609 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: of his best ball, APP is great. It's a chart 610 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: that plummets, you know, right around the time the AP 611 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: was signed. And I just think one, I think there's 612 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: room for both of them in that offense. They're gonna 613 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: score a lot of points. They run near the end zone. 614 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: Uh they you know, they have for years, and AP 615 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: is no sure thing. He's he's coming off injury plagued year. 616 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: You know, he could be great. You know, I i'd 617 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: recommend at his price, he's not a bad buy either. 618 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's sort of you can't 619 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: question the talent that Ingram has shown the past couple 620 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: of years, the production when he's on the field, and 621 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: he hasn't even been on the field, you know that much. 622 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: I mean every you know, the last couple of years, 623 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: I think both years, everyone who owns him was complaining 624 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: about how he was, you know, getting pulled for high 625 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: Tower or you know, there's some problem. 626 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: With the coach and he was producing anyway. 627 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I feel like Ingram is sort 628 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: of the picture guy that captures what you've been talking 629 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: about on this podcast, where you're asia, well, first of all, 630 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: you're obviously associating this guy with a great, great offense 631 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: in New Orleans that you know is going to produce 632 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: some great RB weeks just in general, whoever was behind 633 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage for them. But I think that 634 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: that most importantly, you're looking at the upside of this player. 635 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: You're looking at the fact that if Ingram is the guy, 636 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: then he's going to have a lot of upside. You 637 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: know that Adrian Peterson has injury issues, you know that 638 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: he's old enough to be my dad. You know. It's 639 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: it's a situation where you're ignoring the downside of mark 640 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: Ingram and looking strictly at the upside because that's what 641 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: you have to do in these leagues. So I just 642 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: wanted to throw that out there. I think Ingram is 643 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: sort of the perfect player for what you've kind of 644 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: been preaching so far. 645 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's and the other crucial aspect is the 646 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: price drop. You know, he's fallen three or four rounds 647 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 2: in price, and at that point it's safe to ignore 648 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: the downside. You know, in the first couple of rounds, 649 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: you need some you need some floor. But now I 650 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: think he's he's a great value so wide receiver. I've 651 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: already mentioned him twice. I'm going to mention him again 652 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: because I say it every year, Deshaun Jackson's my guy. 653 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: Yes, always underrated. 654 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I would think in best ball 655 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: where you know, it's not a secret that you look for, 656 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: you know, these high upside kind of boom bust guys. 657 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: He continues to be undervalued from my perspective. He was 658 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: last year, the year before, and this year. His ADP 659 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: hasn't moved very much since he joined the Bucks, you know, 660 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: his primary option. But I think, you know, I think 661 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: that offense is going to be able to move the 662 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: ball and he's going to make those splash plays with 663 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: in big group of wide receivers, that's all you need. 664 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: Tight end, my guy again is Olsen. He he's actually 665 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: kind of the opposite of what we've been talking about. 666 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 3: I just love his floor. 667 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: And the reason that's especially important to me at tight 668 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: end is you know, he he has the upside. You know, 669 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: last year, I think he finished as the tight end two. 670 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't a great year for tight ends, but you know, 671 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm confident that he'll be in the top six by 672 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: the end of the year, and I don't expect him 673 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: to have a very bad year unless he gets injured. 674 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: You I just don't see the scenario in which that happens. 675 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: And getting that guy in the fifth or sixth round 676 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: allows me to go confidently with only two tight ends, 677 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: which again frees up a spot for another wide receiver 678 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: or if I decide to go three quarterbacks, that kind 679 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: of thing. 680 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: So I've always found. 681 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Him a very good value in my draft so far, 682 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: and he's one of my top exposures. 683 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: And then the most exciting defense. 684 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: I probably actually like to talk about defense more than 685 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: anyone else because I'm always banging the table saying to 686 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: take three defenses when nobody else really. 687 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: Seems to care that much about it. 688 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: But the one I've been grabbing a lot is the 689 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: charge defense. So I think their secondary. 690 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: Is very underrated. 691 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: We've got Bosa wreaking havoc, and they're they're just a stronger, 692 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: stronger unit than I think people realize. And with all 693 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: the injuries on offense last year, I think it really 694 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: handicapped them and they I think they're just going to 695 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: be a better team in general this year. I think 696 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: defense won't have to be on the field as much, 697 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: and when they are, they'll have more opportunities to face 698 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: teams playing catch up, which leads to what really what 699 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: you're looking for in the defense is those touchdowns off turnovers. 700 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: So they're the one. 701 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: You know, they're towards the top of my list, and 702 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: I'll just mention since they're randomly my number. 703 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 3: One overall exposure. 704 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: I have a lot of the Green Bay Packers, but 705 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: I can't really explain that one. I would, I mean, 706 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: game script it kind of makes sense, yeah, you know, 707 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 2: because yeah, same idea. I mean, they you know, they'll 708 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: they'll be in a lot of games where there's a 709 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: lot of throwing, but they just happen to have fallen 710 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: the right price for me. 711 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, then that's sort of those are my guys. 712 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. Mike, thanks so much for taking time out 713 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: of your day to join the show today. For those 714 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: of you who aren't following Mike on Twitter, you can 715 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: do so at Beerswater. 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