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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too.

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Speaker 3: It is our number two here of the Drive west

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Speaker 3: Yuler Matt Williamson. On a victory Tuesday, as we are

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Speaker 3: back from across the Emerald Isle. We've been smiling. Irish

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Speaker 3: eyes are always smiling, right, isn't that something that they say?

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Speaker 4: Matt?

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Speaker 3: I think something like that and certainly the case after

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Speaker 3: a twenty four to twenty one win. Joining us now

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Speaker 3: to discuss. He covers the Steelers for the trib. He

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Speaker 3: also co hosts the Steelers Blitz with our buddy Tom Motferman.

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Speaker 3: It is Chris Adanski, buzz. Thank you for taking the time.

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Speaker 3: As always, I just got to ask you maybe bigger

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Speaker 3: picture here to get started. I think on both sides

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Speaker 3: of the ball, a lot to be encouraged by in

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Speaker 3: that win, I think the Steelers' most encouraging performance here

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Speaker 3: through the month of September. What's kind of at the

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Speaker 3: top of that list for you? What are you feeling

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Speaker 3: the best about here? You know, about forty eight hours

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Speaker 3: after that victory over the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think overall, I mean, obviously, if you

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Speaker 5: know that the totally artist numbers aren't great, the order

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Speaker 5: is differential, They've not gained in every game. There's a

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Speaker 5: lot of things. If you want to look at a

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Speaker 5: negative aspect of being three and one, if that's possible,

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Speaker 5: But I just mean in terms of if you want

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Speaker 5: to express the point, it's not sustainable. I understand that.

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Speaker 5: I do think though, you can take all that and

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Speaker 5: still see that in almost every area that there that

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Speaker 5: their problems are or they haven't been as good as

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Speaker 5: they need to be. The eras and pointing up I

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Speaker 5: don't I can think from week one to week four,

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Speaker 5: you can almost look it up and down the line,

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Speaker 5: and they're coming off their best one game at all

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Speaker 5: those areas, and I can, you know, go through a

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Speaker 5: couple but and then you know, a two game span

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Speaker 5: you could say they've probably been the best like and

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Speaker 5: for instance this the defense being this. You know what

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Speaker 5: happens once you know, even get a five turnover game

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Speaker 5: and you know week eight and the rest of the

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Speaker 5: seasons blood in terms of splash and all that. Okay,

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Speaker 5: you get a five sack game in the middle of

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Speaker 5: the season and in the next game or not. But

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Speaker 5: they do both of those things kind of you know,

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Speaker 5: both the turnovers, remember they had two to call it

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Speaker 5: back in this of this span, they almost had nine

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Speaker 5: turnovers or nine takeaways and the eleven sacks. That's of

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Speaker 5: our two games span. Now it's a little bit bigger

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Speaker 5: of a sample size. You can believe that's sustainable, especially

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Speaker 5: with the personnel on this defense. That these are all

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Speaker 5: big names with resumes and all of them, you know,

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Speaker 5: up and down the lift, a whole bunch of playmakers

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Speaker 5: have a have a history of that, and so there's

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Speaker 5: reason to believe that that sustainable. It wasn't a lip

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Speaker 5: It wasn't you know, you know, I get all that,

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Speaker 5: like the fumble luck. They recovered all those fumbles against

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Speaker 5: the Patriots. What will happen every week? And I get

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Speaker 5: you can't depend on all the all the takeaways, but

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Speaker 5: there are reasons that the running game is another one

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Speaker 5: where you come off the best performers. The offensive line

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Speaker 5: was as best as it was in Week four. I

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Speaker 5: think there's a lot of things that not only are

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Speaker 5: they three and one, and a lot of their awards

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Speaker 5: look better right now than the date after Week one

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Speaker 5: or Week two or week three. Well, put that way,

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Speaker 5: I think they've looked their era has been pointing up

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Speaker 5: be pouring up. Quite frankly, they want to ge where

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Speaker 5: they're going to go at the end of the season.

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad you mentioned it because we hadn't yet.

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Speaker 4: But there were a couple near turnovers that didn't go

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Speaker 4: their way. Yeah, I mean they one of them was

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Speaker 4: a scoop and score that could have been ridiculously massive.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought those things up, because we went

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Speaker 4: a whole hour without mentioning it. Chris, I assume you agree,

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Speaker 4: but I really want to hear your opinion. Rogers' value

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Speaker 4: to this team thus far way exceeds his stat line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, just even and I get it,

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Speaker 5: like you know, Sol Wilson is a moreline Hall of

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Speaker 5: things like that, and there was a respect there of course,

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Speaker 5: But it's just I've been really surprised, especially and I'll

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Speaker 5: fall I don't want to speak every buddy about you know,

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Speaker 5: I fall in the trap you from bar Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: how's this gonna go, how's this how's he gonna be?

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Speaker 5: And I've been pretty much blown away in terms of

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Speaker 5: just I mean, he obviously he's forty one years old,

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Speaker 5: he's won a Super Bowl, he's been in the league

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Speaker 5: for twenty one years. Literally everybody in that locker room

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Speaker 5: pretty much grew up watching him play as a kid,

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Speaker 5: you know, so have that fandom to him. At the

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Speaker 5: same time, he he bonds with everybody in that sense.

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Speaker 5: So there's that intangible whatever that's worth or not, you know,

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Speaker 5: looking debate how much is worth, I think we're a

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Speaker 5: lot and yeah, okay, and and an especially from your quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And then you look at it and again you might

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Speaker 5: the overall stats or whatever and the guard and you know,

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Speaker 5: I know the ball's not going downfield a lot, first

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Speaker 5: oneother I don't get this tangent a lot here, but

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Speaker 5: throwing guys open in terms of yes, these short passes,

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Speaker 5: but there's a skill in an art. I was talking

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Speaker 5: to Tom Marth about that today at length, actually about

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Speaker 5: at the skill of a quarterback. And yeah, everybody talks

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Speaker 5: about deep ball and accuracy or whatever, but the nuance

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Speaker 5: recognizing some things that you've heard him that the Steelers

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Speaker 5: talk about and the coaches talk about, and Rogers and

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Speaker 5: recognizing on defense. Is that that intangible aspect of it.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, he's also you know it might

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Speaker 5: maybe it's not you know what it was and to

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Speaker 5: fifteen years ago, ten years ago, but you still see

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Speaker 5: that arm talent like every game one or two throws like,

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Speaker 5: oh my god, look at that. So yeah, there's been

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Speaker 5: a lot of ways. For sure, you've done a list

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Speaker 3: Chris I wanted to ask you about the the role

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Speaker 3: the usage of Pat Fryermouth on Sunday, just fifteen snaps

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Speaker 3: for him, uh, less than than a fourth out of

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Speaker 3: that just as simple as you know, on the surface,

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Speaker 3: him being in the doghouse for for a missed assignment

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Speaker 3: on that blocked field goal, or do you think there

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Speaker 3: even could be something deeper there with just them maybe

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Speaker 3: not being pleased with his performance to this point through

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Speaker 5: I think in terms of and I tried to get

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Speaker 5: a little success. And you know, we had the assistant

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Speaker 5: the regular season. So even talking to Fredo rob which

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Speaker 5: is always always a joy smith it which is you know,

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Speaker 5: makes anybody's day reality. But just you know, try And

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Speaker 5: here's my take. And I'm one hundred percent you know,

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Speaker 5: got from whoever I talked to today here and maybe

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Speaker 5: I just think that the game plan, well I'm know

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Speaker 5: for sure the game plan in part was they use

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Speaker 5: then I think when it started working, they went through

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Speaker 5: Smith didn't play that much either. Now he might have

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Speaker 5: been hurt a little bit, that might be part of it,

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Speaker 5: but but Smith played about as little as as Friarmure did.

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Speaker 5: And you saw Donald Washington play a career high and snaps,

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Speaker 5: you played what ninety percent of the Steelers snaps. He

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Speaker 5: saw the count a full back. You saw center Anderson

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Speaker 5: and you're winning the game. So they stuck with it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's probably as simple as that. Now you know,

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Speaker 5: and there might be another game where whatever they're behind

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Speaker 5: the different team, different personnel, and then on the other team.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of different things you could say about it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it was I think at the impression

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Speaker 5: it was that obviously. I think everybody in envisions fired

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Speaker 5: me if it have more catches at this point, more

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Speaker 5: So I yes that maybe that is something in terms

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Speaker 5: I think it was just sort of a one game

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Speaker 4: Stick with it. So maybe this is a tough question.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you think if you were to bet

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Speaker 4: on what tight end coming out of the by leads

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Speaker 4: you still think that's up for debate or do you

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Speaker 4: think Washington has gained that Is this just a one

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Speaker 4: time usage for Washington. I know we don't know these answers.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking you to pull out the crystal ball, but

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Speaker 4: what tight end do you think leads a team and

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Speaker 5: It's funny you asked that right now, because I look,

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Speaker 5: like I said, literally just left the facility. We got

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Speaker 5: the assistant coaches today, just talking to Arthur Smith. So

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Speaker 5: I'm talking to Freda Roberts. I mean Darna, I mean

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Speaker 5: obviously darnell us of human being. That's their size and

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Speaker 5: what he can do and everything, no matter what we've

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Speaker 5: had not for three years, right, and so is something

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Speaker 5: kind of more clicking for him? Are they trusting him more?

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Speaker 5: But I definitely at this moment, just coming out of

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Speaker 5: these conversations, definitely feel as if Darnell Washington is going

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Speaker 5: it even up and before this last game to a point,

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Speaker 5: but be more a part of the offense going forward.

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Speaker 5: I think Aaron Rodgers has a trust and a connection

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Speaker 5: with him too, that that kind of surprises me. Maybe

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Speaker 5: I don't know what why, you know, you would think

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Speaker 5: has a long history of of you know, being a

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Speaker 5: receiving threaten and dynamic threatened fined me as a history,

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Speaker 5: you know, a reliable, good tight end. But I just

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Speaker 5: felt like, and you feel like when you're Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: talk about Darnell too, that there's a trust there. So

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Speaker 5: I don't go, I don't even know, is it going

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Speaker 5: to lemon and say I would, I wouldn't be. I

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Speaker 5: certainly would not be surprised at all. It is Washington

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Speaker 5: Chris, I don't mean to you guys are lucky early hour.

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Speaker 2: Here Chris Damski.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you're checking out his work in the trim,

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Speaker 3: listening to him on the Steelers Blitz on the Steelers'

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Speaker 3: audio network Buzz. Thank you for the time as always,

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Speaker 3: And especially this week four because there was a lot

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Speaker 3: going on. We will discuss all of that when we

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Speaker 3: return on the other side. Well, Shuuler Matt Williamson. It's

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Speaker 3: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 3: your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: A wild Week four certainly for everybody in Steelers Land.

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Speaker 3: But Matt, it was a wild Week four across the

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Speaker 3: National Football League. Yeah, some big surprising results. Hey, hand

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Speaker 3: up if you had Jackson Dart beating the undefeated Chargers

445
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Speaker 3: on your Bengo card, Yeah, I mean a devastating injury

446
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Speaker 3: to Tyreek Hill, another loss for the Ravens, and maybe

447
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Speaker 3: some rough injuries in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, lot going on.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on. But Matt, let's start in

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Speaker 3: the AFC North and you kind of keep it tied

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Speaker 3: to the Steelers. You mentioned this a little bit just

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Speaker 3: a minute ago with our buddy Chris Adamski. The Steelers

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Speaker 3: are in a great position right now. I mean the Browns.

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Speaker 3: We all knew that this season was going to be

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Speaker 3: tough for them. Their defense is good to very good, but.

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Speaker 4: It might be the best in the league. We'll start

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Speaker 4: talking Browns soon. Everyone steels going to steam roll the

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Speaker 4: Browns because that game might be thirteen nine.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's all right nine thirteen. Yeah, the day that

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Speaker 3: WU won the last backyard bro, I had to tell

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Speaker 3: you what.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that. That's kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice little shove it back up their backside.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that result was not nearly as big

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Speaker 3: as third.

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Speaker 4: But it's a nice coincidence. I like it.

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Speaker 3: It's also a nice coincidence that after blowing a ten

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Speaker 3: point lead to their biggest rivals, the pitt Panthers blew

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Speaker 3: a seventeen point lead in their first a c C game.

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Speaker 2: I digress the Browns. We all have kind of known

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Speaker 2: what their situation is, and they're turning to doing Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh is that happening? That's what That's

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Speaker 2: what it sounds like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew that time was gonna come pre Steeler game,

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Speaker 4: no doubt.

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Speaker 2: No doubt. And Cincinnati, of course, in the absence of

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, it's just difficult to navigate eight for what

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Speaker 2: he is and what he means to them.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much you watched that game, but

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Speaker 4: I mean I watched a lot of Bengal.

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Speaker 2: I watched the first Halt Viking right before I.

482
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Speaker 3: Was like the Tom and Jerry cartoon of like taping

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Speaker 3: my eyelids th my foreheads orange exactly right, Clockwork Warder.

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Speaker 4: It's a little last year, but yeah, they're horrible. I

485
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Speaker 4: mean I threw this out on Twitter deep into that

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Speaker 4: game after watching them get destroyed by the Vikings defense.

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Speaker 4: That might be the worst offense in the league. And

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Speaker 4: last year they probably were the worst defense in the

489
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Speaker 4: league and don't look noticeably better. I mean, like they

490
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Speaker 4: could pick in the top five this year. It's that bad.

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Speaker 2: And I can really.

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Speaker 4: Chase getting upset and Higgins and Hendrickson and I'm not

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Speaker 4: predicting on maybe coaching changes, like it's.

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Speaker 2: They could be they might be the first team to make.

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Speaker 4: A toilet move. Yeah, I mean it's really really hard watch,

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Speaker 4: Like they can't even line up, they're spiraling penalties.

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Speaker 3: And I know you, I know you have said this,

498
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Speaker 3: I've said this. We don't love saying nice things about

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Speaker 3: the Steelers division rivals, but my goodness, the way that

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Speaker 3: team looks before Joe Burrow got there, what they were

501
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Speaker 3: is a franchise, the Heights that he took them to

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl an AFC Championship game in back to back years,

503
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Speaker 3: which they hardly ever do, and man, when he's out,

504
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Speaker 3: there's just so they unravel.

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Speaker 4: He friends so much last night and said Joe Burrow

506
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Speaker 4: should be the MVP for how bad the Bengals look. Like,

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Speaker 4: I know what you're saying, right, Legitimately, he's that important

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Speaker 4: and what a superstar he is, but he ain't around.

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Speaker 2: But he ain't around, And I think we all knew

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Speaker 2: that was going to be the case the moment he

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Speaker 2: went out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would pick the Browns to beat the Bengals

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Speaker 4: right now in the neutral.

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Speaker 2: Stadium just because their defense.

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Speaker 3: They wouldn't even win thirteen to nine, Matt, they'd win

516
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Speaker 3: nine to three, three nothing safety safety, defense to nothing,

517
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Speaker 3: like a good baseball score.

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Speaker 4: Or how the Steelers started against the Vikings in this

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Speaker 4: first the first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Uh, someone said to I forget who told us this pregame,

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Speaker 3: But it's the first time these Steelers and Vikings logos

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Speaker 3: have been painted in an end zone since Super Bowl nine.

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Speaker 3: Because I guess in the London game there was something different.

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Speaker 3: They didn't just have the two teams because I was like, wait,

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Speaker 3: didn't happen in London? No, they had different end zones.

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Speaker 3: I guess for that game over there. But Matt, I

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Speaker 3: think the biggest shocker. We all knew the Browns were

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Speaker 3: gonna struggle this year despite what the defense could and is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know could become and has become. I

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Speaker 3: think again the moment that Joe Burrow was ruled out

532
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Speaker 3: for three months, we all knew what that was going

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Speaker 3: to look like. But I don't think any of us

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Speaker 3: saw this coming. With the Baltimore Ravens, not only are

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Speaker 3: their results gone the wrong way, they are now getting

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Speaker 3: decimated with key injuries as well.

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Speaker 4: So when we talked Browns next week, they'll play another game.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna play the Vikes. None of these teams have buys.

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Speaker 4: So where I think it's really interesting in this division,

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Speaker 4: in particular Steelers a side where these teams are contrary

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Speaker 4: to preseason expectations. Like most people thought the Browns and

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Speaker 4: Saints were gonna be in competition in the overall y

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Speaker 4: you know so, but I'm going to say I promised

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Speaker 4: you when we preview Browns a lot of positive things,

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Speaker 4: you know, like Judkins and Schwassinger and Grant, like they're

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Speaker 4: young guys. Okay, you know, maybe even the quarterbacks look

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Speaker 4: Okay after a week, who knows, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: But at least I can see Browns fans having something

549
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Speaker 4: to get excited about. And I get this all the

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Speaker 4: way right now, Miles Garrett might be the best football

551
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Speaker 4: player on the planet right now. You thought it was good.

552
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Speaker 4: I know if I hates him here and I absolutely

553
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Speaker 4: crushed me for this. He's better now than he's ever been.

554
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Speaker 4: Like he leveled up, which is insane. It's like Lawrence

555
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Speaker 4: Taylor out there right now anyway. So there's actually good

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Speaker 4: things going on in Cleveland. But they have such a

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Speaker 4: low ceiling. I mean, it's going to be a long year.

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Speaker 4: We know that talked about the Bengals a lot, way

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Speaker 4: worse than I even would have expected. Minus Burrow, I

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Speaker 4: thought they might be okay. I mean, if we start

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Speaker 4: usually Tuesday's power ranked days, I don't even know if

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Speaker 4: we'll do it this week, but they would be really

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Speaker 4: really low on my list for what they look like.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens I thought were going to be the best

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Speaker 4: team in the league, you know, like if my preseason

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Speaker 4: power ranks were one. Now they have a lot of

567
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Speaker 4: things going against them too, but it's mostly injury related.

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Speaker 4: So they can obviously bounce back, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 4: but even going you know, early in the season, tough games,

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Speaker 4: they were losing it both lines of scrimmage, which is

571
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Speaker 4: not Ravens like and kind of like the Eagles but

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Speaker 4: less even more so, they're designed to play with the lead.

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Speaker 4: And where I'm going with this is there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of snaps now that Henry's not even on the field,

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Speaker 4: you know, like Henry's only eclipsed I think fifty yards

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Speaker 4: in Week one. That's Derek Henry, right, And maybe he's

577
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Speaker 4: losing it right bad fumbles, you know, and I'm not

578
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Speaker 4: even blaming him entirely. Maybe he's losing a step. That's

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Speaker 4: some day it's gonna happen. I thought it's gonna happen

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Speaker 4: for the last four years and it hasn't. But they've

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Speaker 4: been losing up front. And I'd never loved their own line,

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Speaker 4: but they've always made it work because they have Ricard

583
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Speaker 4: and the two best ball carriers are going to see.

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Speaker 4: But that's not happening. They're not playing with leads. This

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Speaker 4: Lamar injury is odd. I don't know how much you

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Speaker 4: saw of it.

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Speaker 3: It didn't look like anything serious, and no kind of

588
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 3: tossed his helmet and that was that.

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Speaker 4: It almost was like I'm done playing today that it works,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: I typically, Matt, I'll tell you. I don't know if

592
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Speaker 2: you and I have had this discussion. I think Abady quit.

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Speaker 3: Everybody who does this for a living has certain narrative

594
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: things that drive them crazy. I hate it when people

595
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Speaker 3: call NFL players soft.

596
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: Oh, like live four minutes in their shoes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you go out there and get in a car

598
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Speaker 3: crash seventy times a game and tell me they're soft.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Another one of those things is is I hate it

601
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Speaker 3: when people just that guy quit, that guy gave up

602
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: that guy like you don't know their headspace, but man,

603
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: it's hard not to feel that way after what we

604
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Speaker 3: saw at Arrowhead Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I bet jan Thornhill will tell you that

606
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Speaker 4: the Browns defense quit about this time last year too,

607
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: So there are certainly like it definitely does happen. It's

609
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Speaker 3: hard to put your best decision is out there for

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Speaker 3: a reason.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and they're all human beings. And frankly, I thought

612
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Speaker 4: this was the most energetic game the Steelers played. I mean,

613
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Speaker 4: mister Rooney talked to him. I mean like you can

614
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: understand why we're all people, you know.

615
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Speaker 2: Who've been waiting fifty years for this game. Boys, you

616
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Speaker 2: better go win it.

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Speaker 4: And like I bring up the Browns because their defense

618
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: was also good last year, until the offense is like

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Speaker 4: I can't, you can't. I need something, and it looks

620
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Speaker 4: like Lamar was fed up and maybe they were gonna

621
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Speaker 4: pull them. Anyways, at that point, the game was pretty shot.

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Speaker 4: But he goes over the sidelines. The Rose's helmet sits there,

623
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Speaker 4: and I didn't see any trainers working on his leg.

624
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Speaker 4: I mean, like, I'm not saying he's faking it. I

625
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Speaker 4: just don't know that he was planning on playing the

626
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Speaker 4: rest of the way. But needless to say, if he

627
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Speaker 4: misses any time, they're a flat out below average team

628
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: because Cooper Rush thinks and doesn't fit their system at all.

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Speaker 4: I'm shocked that that's their choice for the backup. I mean,

630
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Speaker 4: like when at least when they had Huntley. Huntley's digressed

631
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Speaker 4: since them, but at least it made sense you could

632
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Speaker 4: still do yours.

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Speaker 2: He was Lamar type, yeah.

634
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Speaker 4: And you can still give it to Henry and distribute

635
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Speaker 4: the football, you know, Like, I don't understand Rush being

636
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Speaker 4: their backup behind a bad line, playing behind, I mean,

637
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: that's gonna be a tough thing to overcome. If Lamar

638
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: misses any time, it wouldn't shock me at all. If

639
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: he's fine, sure, I don't know who knows, But the

640
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: defense needs to be brought up because they're getting pushed

641
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Speaker 4: around the line of scrimmage, which you just don't see.

642
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Speaker 2: Let's see it.

643
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Speaker 4: And now their best defensive player or best defensive lineman

644
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Speaker 4: who's been out, Mattabuke is way better than most people

645
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: might think. I mean, he's a top ten defensive tackle

646
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 4: all day long, but he's out for the year. And

647
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: they also lost Pierce to retirement last year, who's this

648
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: big and never moves, and you know.

649
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: Like Marlin Humphreys hurt now too.

650
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Speaker 4: And Wiggins is hurt. Like there's other ripple effects in

651
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Speaker 4: the back seven. But it starts up front. And I

652
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: don't know if it's gonna get better upfront on either lines, right,

653
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it might get worse.

654
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Their offensive line I think could certainly get better because

655
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: they there.

656
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it wasn't my favorite unit to begin with.

657
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: The guards and you know.

658
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: And Matt, I mean they've got Houston this week, who

659
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: won a game and feeling better about themselves, their best

660
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: performance of the season. They're still desperate to keep stacking

661
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: some wins. Then they've got the Rams, you know.

662
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one of the.

663
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: Better I don't think one of the elite teams in

664
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: the NFC, buts are better than the Ravens right now,

665
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: one of that second tar teams in the NFC, certainly.

666
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: I mean they even if they split those, they'll be

667
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: two and four.

668
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they are.

669
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: If Lamar is healthy, they could certainly turn this thing around.

670
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but this has been about as close to

671
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: a disaster of a start other than maybe like a

672
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: significant injury to Lamar that they could have had in

673
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: the month of September.

674
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they I mean, losing to good teams is excusable.

675
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: But one in three isn't kind to percentage to make

676
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: playoffs things like that. Like I wanted to bring this

677
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: up in our one the percentage of going to the

678
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: playoffs since two thousand when you're three and one is

679
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: basically like two thirds those teams go two and two,

680
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: it's like thirty eight percent, you know, So like just

681
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: that win for the Steelers, I know it's only one difference,

682
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: but at three and one is if you lose your

683
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 4: three and two, you're still winning. You know, Like, I

684
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: know some of this is just nonsense.

685
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: But you're right, and those numbers are the way that

686
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: they are.

687
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: They are, and one in three is unkind.

688
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: Even in this seventeen game now era, even in the

689
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: extra wild card game era, it's incredibly unkind. The other

690
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: side of that, for the Steelers, I had this in

691
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: my notes for us to get to at some point

692
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: this week ESPNFPI. Steelers now have a seventy one percent

693
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 3: chance to make the playoffs. Yeah, it was about fifty

694
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: four percent last week. They now have a seven point

695
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: three point chance to make it to the super Bowl,

696
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: which is up from three and a half percent last week.

697
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: So just just a one win in that month of

698
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: September to get the three and one makes a huge difference.

699
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: And I'm sure the Chargers went down, the Ravens went down,

700
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: you know, like totally, your your opponents to make the

701
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: Super Bowl have are helping you, you know at the moment.

702
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: Yes, And I wonder what the percentage for the Steelers

703
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: to win the division now is a bet you have

704
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: to be at least fifty percent.

705
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: Well, I know in Vegas odds the leader is the Ravens.

706
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: Still still what shocks me a little? Yeah, I mean

707
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: I did being fine, I get it, but it shocks

708
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: me a little. But they're still the leader in the clubhouse.

709
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: Like the Bills, if you bet on the Bills win division,

710
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: you get like no money, I mean like you'll you

711
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: make like.

712
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: A penny, no chance, right right right?

713
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: You got to bet ten dollars to get five bucks

714
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: back probably, yeah, and the Bills to win the division.

715
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: Matt, Just a couple other things here.

716
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: Crazy one in overtime between the Packers and the Cowboys

717
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: that ends tied at forty.

718
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Between Michael Parsons and his old employer.

719
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: So this one I didn't see the second half. This

720
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 4: was a perfect example of being in Ireland being crazy.

721
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: This game started at one thirty in the morning, Doberlin time.

722
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: Yes, and I had planned we had a flight seven

723
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 4: o'clock Doublin time. And obviously we got up. I mean

724
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: I slept in a little bit before we went over

725
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: to Croke and No. But my plan was I can't

726
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: just not watch games, so I'm gonna come back after

727
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: the Steeler game watch Red Zone in the in the

728
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: bus on the way home, which I did, which was cool.

729
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: Watch four o'clock games in my room, record some stuff,

730
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: watch this one, and maybe stay up all night and

731
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: just get on the bus. And you know, by the

732
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: time Sunday football end. Sure, I couldn't figure out a

733
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: way to watch Sunday night football.

734
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: You can't find anything. You cannot find American sports. Your

735
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: apps don't work, they're all blocked.

736
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: It was nuts.

737
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: It's not on TV.

738
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: So I found this weird version, like if you're watching

739
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: this behind us, somebody was playing the game with like

740
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: this logo in the middle. So I'm laying there, strike

741
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: glasses on, just kind of listening watching. End up dozing

742
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: off at halftime, so I didn't catch the second half,

743
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: so be it. That's pretty much all I missed. I'll

744
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: take that. I ended up getting an extra hour sleep

745
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: as opposed to zero. I got an hour and a half.

746
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: But crazy game. I mean, Green Bay is a little

747
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: rattle too, you know. I mean, you tie a not

748
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: so great Cowboys team, you got beat by the Browns.

749
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: You know, we talked power ranks. They were one or two,

750
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: you know, substantially here for a while. I'm not super worried,

751
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: but that wass is interesting. That's good, you know, like

752
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: they're this is kind of like their Giants game, you know,

753
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: where it's just high scoring, whoever's ball last wins or

754
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: ties pickings blows up. They're interesting, you know.

755
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely that that one was.

756
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: The defense is good.

757
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: That one was wild.

758
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: The offense is good, but their man, their defense is

759
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: really rough.

760
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: It is really rough, really bad.

761
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: Also wanted to run by the.

762
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: One thing I want to do. I was about to

763
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: bench in too, maybe like next Monday or Tuesday, before

764
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: we really get into the Browns. Let's repick who we

765
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: think is gonna end up in the playoffs.

766
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: I love that.

767
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll do some we'll do some bigger

768
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: picture stuff like they were saying, let's do let's repick

769
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: the Vision winners and who's gonna get into the wild cards,

770
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: and maybe we can even do like m VP and Defensive.

771
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: Player in that kind of stuff. Time this week.

772
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: Super condensed that we still do need to get to

773
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: some of our regular power rankings and stuff like that

774
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: this week, but we will have plenty of time, especially.

775
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: More about like college quarterback.

776
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: We were talking about that we're gonna do because we

777
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: missed that.

778
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: Uh last week, we'll do some beef your college football

779
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: and college quarterback conversations. There's some new names into the forefront.

780
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: Llow Dante more from Oregon. My goodness, speaking of crazy

781
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: Ones Valley. Yeah.

782
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, because.

783
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 3: I left the Temple Bar district of Dublin Saturday because

784
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: I wanted to go back to my hotel and watch

785
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: college football, watch the WVU game. I'm glad I didn't.

786
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: We got smoked by Utah. I listened to the whole

787
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: thing on the audio stream.

788
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

789
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: A lot of big games Georgia, Alabama, penn State, Oregon.

790
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: You cannot watch them in Dublin.

791
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: It's nuts.

792
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 3: Your ESPN apps blocked, your Fox apps blocked. I had

793
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: my buddy text me his direct TV login that's.

794
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: Blocked as well.

795
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: Vps are the only way to do it, and I

796
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: wasn't just going to go to the effort to do that.

797
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: Just from one day.

798
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: Is because I'm old.

799
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: But you can change your computers brought so you could

800
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: have tricked your computer into thinking that you're still broadcasting

801
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: you're still located in Pennsylvania.

802
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: Because even like NFL Plus, it told me doesn't work there.

803
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, why do I pay for this you know,

804
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: I understand the frustrations of you know, some of our

805
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: Netflix didn't work. I mean none of anything anything work

806
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: and again they don't brought they don't.

807
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: I was going to spend money to do it for

808
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 4: one game?

809
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: No, right, right, Like they have Sky Sports over there,

810
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: but that's about it. They don't have the saturation of

811
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: full time sports networks like we do either.

812
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: No. I thought maybe even Sunday football might be on TV,

813
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: you know, like going through the guiye, nope, you know,

814
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: no chance.

815
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: Found some Gaelic football soccer. But but nothing, nothing, nothing.

816
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 3: I won't miss no, absolutely. That was that was one

817
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: of the things that was a big of a bit

818
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: of a bummer. And I understand why. Like, you know,

819
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: the guys that we know, Mick and Greg and some

820
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: of our friends through the Steelers that that do content

821
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: stuff that we've met that are from Ireland always talk

822
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: about how difficult it is to watch American sports.

823
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: You had to get up at weird times.

824
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: I met another it's more than that. That same guy

825
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: that I was telling you that I talked to the

826
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: Bengals fan. I was like, so your big NFL. I

827
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 3: was like, do you like you watch hockey? You watch baseball,

828
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: you watch basketball, you follow any other American sports. And

829
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 3: he was like, no, it's impossible, because he's like it's hard.

830
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: He's like, it's hard enough for me to follow.

831
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: The NFL is the easiest to acces, he said, it.

832
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: Is hockey, he said it is, But like right, and

833
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: he said, and for at least the NFL, the one

834
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 3: o'clock games start like six.

835
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: O'clock over here, it's perfect.

836
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: I can, man, It's like the hockey and the basketball

837
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: games that are all at seven o'clock, seven thirty at night.

838
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: They started one thirty in the morning.

839
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

840
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was, uh, maybe the one thing that

841
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: we didn't enjoy about our time in Dublin.

842
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 4: Yeah. I really highly disliked it, to be honest with you,

843
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: but that such as life got through it. We got

844
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 4: through it a pretty good feel. What happened in the

845
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 4: week four though around the league.

846
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think so. I think so.

847
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: Like I said, I saw you grinding it away when

848
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: we were when we were on the plane ride coming back,

849
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: I was watching Shawshank Redemption. Matt was doing real work

850
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: up A little bit. Kind of tells you about the

851
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: difference between the two of us when we were turned.

852
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: On the other side, here's a teaser for you. Matt

853
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: has a great story of an encounter with a Steelers

854
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: legend at the airport. Yeah, we'll discuss that in a

855
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: couple maybe one or two other Irish anecdotes before we

856
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: get up out of here. On the other side, Weser

857
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

858
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network.

859
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

860
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

861
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: Final segment of the Drive here on a victory Tuesday.

862
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson, Matt, All throughout the week, we'll

863
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: be sprinkling in some cool stories, some cool anecdotes about

864
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: both of our first times in Ireland. An incredible experience

865
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: for everybody. Will kind of bobbing. We between real football

866
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: conversation and some fun behind the curtain stuff of the

867
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: things we got to do and witness and see and Dublin.

868
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: But when we landed.

869
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 3: Back at the Pittsburgh International Airport yesterday, you had something

870
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: pretty stinking cool happened to you.

871
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to tell a story because it

872
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: it it was the timing was awesome. Like I mentioned,

873
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the trip. I think you did too.

874
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: I think everybody involved it and there were a lot

875
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: of really cool moments. And I'm gonna throw one quick

876
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: story out to that. I hope I'm not stealing your thunder.

877
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: But we were on the air and they told us, hey,

878
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: we're gonna get a Steeler legend, you know, at the

879
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: at the bar, and we knewho it was gonna be.

880
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 4: And frankly, we were like coming down the wire, We're like,

881
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: I don't think we're gonna Get'm.

882
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: Texting the Steelers behind the scenes people, Yeah, hey, tell

883
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: me who this is gonna be.

884
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: Because nice to know who it is.

885
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: The radio host, I mean, like like to know who

886
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: we're about to interview. And we've got like ten minutes

887
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: left in the show.

888
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: I thought we weren't going to get them, which is

889
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: something often happens in radio and whoever shows up, it

890
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 4: gets there laid or whatever. And it was Mark. He's

891
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 4: Pounty and it was like whoa and that place went

892
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 4: nuts and he was super cool and it signed a

893
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: million things afterwards.

894
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: And was plugged some Guinness with us. Yeah in this segment.

895
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: So that was awesome.

896
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: It's on the podcast from our SAT Today show. If

897
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 3: you go back in the podcast feed, last hour, last segment,

898
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: you can hear the pouncy badness. It was least erupted

899
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: out of control.

900
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: And met a lot of cool people, met celebrities, you know,

901
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: I mean like we were exposed to a lot of

902
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: cool stuff. I mean when I'm saying Bill Murray was there, right.

903
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: But anyway, we land, I go to tell my personal

904
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: story and you know, I go get my bag and

905
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: we're exhausted. It's it's it's finally over.

906
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: Just plane for seven and a half hours after four

907
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: days of work and play and not much sleep and

908
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: not much as sadly plenty of guinness as people can imagine.

909
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Sure, why would you not? And I pick up my

910
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: bag and off the off the thing, and I'm like,

911
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: I'm home. I don't have to wait for anything else.

912
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: Now that's the last step of things you have to

913
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: you have when travels. I gotta wait for this thing

914
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 4: to land, and I gotta wait for to get off

915
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: the plane. Then I gotta wait to get my bag.

916
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: So I grab that thing, saying I am home free.

917
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 4: I can just sprint to my car, sprint home. See

918
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: the fan whatever. I'm finally done. I get a tap

919
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 4: on the shoulder and I'm like, and that sounds really conceited.

920
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: I don't mean it to be.

921
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: But because everybody gets it in that situation, yes.

922
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: I assumed it was someone on the plane. And to

923
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: be frank, the people on the plane were money people.

924
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: They were there were there was no.

925
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: There were some high rollers on the charter with us.

926
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: I loved all of our interactions in the bar, but

927
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: it wasn't some annoying drunk bugging. I knew in the

928
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: at that situation it was gonna be somebody that was

929
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: going to be worth talking to. But I don't want

930
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: to because I'm done, you know, Like, and I loved

931
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 4: all the people coming up to us. Love the show,

932
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: big fan of your work.

933
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: It was great, it was awesome.

934
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: I'm not at all thank you, thank you, thank you,

935
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: thank you.

936
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: But at this point you just want to get home.

937
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: I just wanted to get home and I didn't want

938
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: to tap a show on the shoulder and hey, what'd

939
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 4: you think of this guy? Or blah blah blah blah blah.

940
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: And I turned around and it's John Stalwarth, who I

941
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: didn't realize what I was told was on our plane

942
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: there and must have been on our plane there, and

943
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: older gentleman wearing a Hall of fame like zip up,

944
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's John freaking Stalwarth. And he says, hey,

945
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: you enjoy everything, and I'm like, I had a great time,

946
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 4: you know, how about you? I had a great time.

947
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 4: But well, He's like, I just wanted to take time

948
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 4: to tell you how much I really enjoy your work.

949
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: Keep it up. I'm like, John, just tell me not

950
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 4: be over right. They're like, I can't believe he knew

951
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: who I was or and it's all I didn't want

952
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 4: to bug him. I made it pretty clear I was

953
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 4: a fan of his work as well, and I happened

954
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: strangely enough on this show. Compared Justin Jefferson to John Stalworth,

955
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: I think that they're very similar. Stalls was going to

956
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 4: be on the on the plane but once in a while,

957
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: especially with this team. And you mentioned I was born

958
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy three, so any super Steeler is still

959
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: whoa you know, like like it was my dad's favorite player.

960
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: I mean, like, how could not be? And was like, wow,

961
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 4: John Stalworth respects my work. I'm like, perfect way to end.

962
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: The like on top of the whipped cream on the

963
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: Sunday that was.

964
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 4: I use this all the time. I was a creative

965
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 4: writing major in college basically because there was a path

966
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: of least resistance to get a degree. But if I

967
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: were to turned that in as the end of my

968
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: short story and John Stalwarts happed, I'm like, this isn't

969
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 4: even believable, dude. You got to cut that chapter out,

970
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: you know, like that ain't happening. But what a great

971
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 4: way to end a great trip.

972
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: It. You like, when you do this for a living,

973
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: it sometimes it can get a little mundane and a

974
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: little you know.

975
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: Like any job. I'm sure, right, I'm sure dentists think

976
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 4: the same thing or whatever.

977
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: Moments like that, it's like you're it's like you're fifteen

978
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: years old all over again, and this is what it's

979
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: all about.

980
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, mel Blunt came on the Drive a training camp

981
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: five years ago and Dale may find me like you

982
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 4: had a fan moment there. I'm like, yes, yes, yes, absolutely, yeah.

983
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: When we get to interview Santonio Holmes at the combine,

984
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: usually when he's out there for me, that's like Antonio

985
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: in the back of Santonio in the back of the

986
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: end zone. Toe tap. I'm eighteen years old about to

987
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: graduate high school. Like, that's one of my I think

988
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: you saw Troy the one time Troy. Yeah, Max introduced

989
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: me to Troy a training camp coming out of the

990
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: cafeteria a few months ago.

991
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

992
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: If that stuff doesn't get you excited, if that stuff

993
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: turn into a teenager again, you're in the.

994
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: Right business, especially depending on what age you are. You know,

995
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: like I was exposed to Stalwart my whole life, you know, yes,

996
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: this guy was.

997
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: I think I was like twelve when the Steelers drafted

998
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: Troy thirteen.

999
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I mean perfect, you know, like Ben Roethlisberger

1000
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: was on our flight, and that didn't change me as much.

1001
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: I'm like I was an adult when I got exposed

1002
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: to Roethlisberger's still cool. He's awesome. You know, he need

1003
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff over there. But that's stalls, you know,

1004
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, that's incredible. I had a poster

1005
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: on my wall of him or you know, right, Yeah.

1006
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: Such a such a cool story. You texted me right

1007
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: after it happened. You were so giddy about it. You

1008
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: had to tell somebody who would appreciate.

1009
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: It exactly because I was going to be like, oh, man,

1010
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to have one more conversation, but I'm like,

1011
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna.

1012
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: Half an hour and top of this.

1013
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: Right, that is fantastic, But it was a perfect cherry

1014
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: on top for me.

1015
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's so cool. That's a great story.

1016
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: We will have more stories of some fun things that

1017
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: happened in Dublin. I got to talk about the Guinness

1018
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 3: Factory at some point.

1019
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should tell me about it. I didn't get there,

1020
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: but man, it sounds We'll tell more.

1021
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure we tell Dublins, We'll tell We'll tell tons

1022
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: of stories for the rest of the week. But that

1023
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: will do it for us for today. Big thanks to

1024
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: John Stalwarth for making Matt's day Yes listening, Yeah, if

1025
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: he is. We love you Stalls keeping up. Big thank

1026
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: you to Chris Adanski for joining us earlier, our producer

1027
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 3: Tyler v mister TV for putting together the YouTube show.

1028
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: As always for Matt Williams and um Wes Heler. Take

1029
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: care everybody, We'll talk to you tomorrow. As always, you

1030
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: know where to find us. It's on your twenty four

1031
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: to seven Home of the Black and Gold at Steelers

1032
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: Nation Radio. On the Steelers Audio Network,