1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: I've had men tell me that they've been unfaithful to 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: the wives, they've been diagnosed with HIV, they've had other 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: factors going on. They don't even tell their family members 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: their wives, but they can tell me as I'm sitting 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: here cutting their hair for thirty minutes to an hour. 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: And so we said, hey, let's create a barbershop educational 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: program where we train the trains also called Train the 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Trainer program, where we train barbers to be ambassadors. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghearspace dot com to access our 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: women like you. 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: We're your hosts. 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Broussard, a college professor and psychologist. 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker in a 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood. Please 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 4: five roids to fake friends, and create a safe space 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 4: where black women can just be. 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: Hey. Lady's doctor dom here from the Cultivating Her Space podcast. 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Are you currently a resident of the state of California 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: in contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, please 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brusard dot com. 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: That's Dr Domi ni Que b r ou Ssard dot 31 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: com to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. I look 32 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: forward to hearing from. 33 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: You, a lady. 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: Today, we have a very special guest joining us to 35 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: dive into a topic that's so important for our community, 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: HIV awareness. Doctor Maysha Standerffer is a powerhouse in the 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: world of public health. She's the Director of Population Health 38 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: at the Satcher Health Leadership Institute at Morehouse School of Medicine. 39 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: With over fifteen years of experience tackling health disparities and 40 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: empowering underserved communities, Doctor Standerfford's work focuses on the intersections 41 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: of culture, health and vulnerable populations. Using both research and 42 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: real world solutions to make a difference. She's a proud 43 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: Spelman alum with a master's in public health from Emory 44 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: and a PhD and Medical anthropology for the University of 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: South Florida. She's all about creating culturally tailored interventions that 46 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 4: empower disenfranchised populations to make healthy, informed decision making life choices. 47 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 4: Doctor Standerferd is here to drop some serious gems. Okay, 48 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: so let's get into it, doctor Maisha. Welcome to cultivating 49 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 4: her space. 50 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me. 51 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 5: I'm so glad to be here. 52 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: Thank you. Y so excited. 53 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: Yes, we are definitely looking forward to this much needed, 54 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: important conversation. And so I will dive into our quote 55 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: of the day. And this quote will sound familiar to you, 56 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: doctor Masha, because this is one of three quotes that 57 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: you live by in your professional work. So our quote 58 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: of the day understand others and their experiences as you 59 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: talk and interact with them. I'm going to say that 60 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: quote one more time for the folks in the back, 61 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: so that you take that quote in and you start 62 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: to live by it yourself. Understand others and their experiences 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: as you talk and interact with them, Doctor Maysha, when 64 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: you think about this quote, when you hear this quote 65 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: and you know that this is one of three quotes 66 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: that you live by, can you tell us a little 67 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: bit more about why this particular quote is so important 68 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: to you. 69 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, yes I will, and thank you again doctor Dom 70 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: and Terry again for having me. And again I'll just 71 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: start off in terms of the quote, is just is 72 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: just what I represent who I am every day all 73 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: day we say three hundred and sixty five days plus, right, 74 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: And as I navigate through this space of black womanhood, 75 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: of being a mother, being being a recent widow, being 76 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: a daughter, being you know, formal wife, and explaining how 77 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: and what I do is just me, right, And so 78 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: I have to understand everyone's experience. As I look at 79 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: my mother and where she's come from, how she's navigated 80 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: her journey. As I look at both of you and say, okay, 81 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: where are you from? 82 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: How are you navigating this space? What are you doing? 83 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 5: Who is the audience? 84 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: This is just something to live by and how some 85 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: people talk about being empathetic humility, but it is just 86 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: being you and how we need to do that in 87 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: our everyday life, everyday experiences, particularly in the work of 88 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: focusing on health inequities and while we're navigating the space 89 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: through eliminating health disparities, and so that is what I 90 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: intended to do through by growing up, and I'll tell 91 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: you a little bit more I'm sure about this, but 92 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: also through some of the work we're doing with our 93 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: sexual health education and HIV information. 94 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: So beautiful, Thank you so much for sharing that, and 95 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: sorry for your loss as well, Doctor Maisha. That's just 96 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: such a powerful quote because as we meet people, we 97 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: don't know what they're going through. So thank you so 98 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: much for sort of grounding us with that quote. Now 99 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 4: we want to dive into your origin story, but I 100 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: was thinking about just kind of setting the stage for 101 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: this conversation. So if you could just kind of think 102 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: of or tell us like why this conversation is important 103 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: around HIV awareness and why it's so crucial for our 104 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: community specifically, I think it'd be really helpful for the 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 4: listener who's wondering, like what's at stake and why should 106 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: I listen till the end? 107 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about that before we 108 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: dive in deeper? 109 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: Right, But we know in every day navigating as I 110 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: talk about our journeys just every day, the identity that 111 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: we hold, the identity that we want to display off 112 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: that can be contradictory, right to those who are in 113 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: the public sphere, and how are we supposed to act, 114 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: what are we supposed to say? And so by not 115 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: being policed by others, definitely not being policed by yourself 116 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: is very refreshing, right, and it's what's needed right now 117 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: in the space and the time we're talking about living 118 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: your truth, right, understanding your truth and why you need 119 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: to tell your truth. 120 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: Because we have seen generations before us. 121 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: We've seen our mothers, we've seen our grandmothers, we've seen 122 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: our great grandmothers who to me have you know, definitely 123 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: detrimentally been impacted and trying to live out what they 124 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: were supposed to do and how they were supposed to 125 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: live and bearing the brunt through sickness, through sickness or 126 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: disease or various conditions. And then sometimes we talk about it, 127 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: we call it a generational issues and generational habits, generational curses. 128 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: But we often have to understand historical relevance that you know, 129 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: we understanstand why Grandma, you know, had to stay in 130 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: a relationship where she didn't want to stay there. She 131 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: had several kids. You need to sustain women couldn't go 132 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: and get their own homes up until the nineteen seventies, right, 133 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: understanding that, understanding the you know, how your mother lived 134 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: and what she went through. Of course, we don't understand 135 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: when we're teenagers and were going back and forth with 136 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: mother like what in the world. 137 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 5: And then when we become mothers and we become older. 138 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: We're like, okay, but that's what you had to do, 139 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: and they looking at your side eye, but understanding that, 140 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: you know, it does come full circle. And so as 141 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm now in that space and I'm like, oh, mama, okay, 142 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: and she looking like, yeah, this is what we had 143 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: to do on top of this, on top of me 144 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: going to work, on top of me dealing with your dad, 145 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: on top of me deal. You know. So these are 146 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: things that we have to make sure that we illuminate 147 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: because our experience is very It's different than what others 148 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: have experiences, and it's not amplified and celebrated enough. And 149 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: so that is why I believe that one of my 150 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: purposes being in the space that I'm in is not 151 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: a director of population health at the Stature Health Leadership 152 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: Institute at Morehaluth School of Medicine is to again focus 153 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: on Black women's health, particularly within the sexual health realm, 154 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: and understanding that of course that is just one part 155 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: of us. 156 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: It doesn't make us the whole being. 157 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Having a sexuality and sexual health is a part of that, 158 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: but being psychologically and emotionally ready to experience sexual sexual 159 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: engagement and activity and had those experience, and to think 160 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: as we talk about how do we empower young girls, 161 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: how do we empower older women? In terms of not 162 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: being a statistic and going back to your original question, 163 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: is find it important because of the increase in new 164 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: cases of diagnosis of HIV in black those sexual women, 165 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: and understanding that it is important for me to make 166 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: sure that I am power not only those who are 167 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: maybe you know, around me centrally and connected beer you know, 168 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: relationships and family, but also those youngers that I go 169 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: into the Boys and Girls Club and I and I 170 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: talk to and I volunteer with, and as they see me, 171 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: they may say, okay, all right, I see she's navigating 172 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: through this. They don't know my story yet, but they 173 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: see me and they can have a trusted relationship with me. 174 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: That if something is going on, whether it's in their 175 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: household or with the significant other, they are able to say, hey, 176 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: I think, you know, how is this going or what 177 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: do I feel about? Some things off of me. But 178 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: that's a major issue because I feel that it's my responsibility. 179 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: I hold knowledge and I need to, you know, definitely 180 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: share the knowledge that I have and making sure that 181 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: I have the ears and eyes of policymakers. That's what 182 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: we do in our initiative, the ears and eyes of 183 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: the community and those prioritized community community members that are 184 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: impacted along with the clinicians who are servicing those individuals. 185 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 5: So again, I don't want anyone. 186 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: To continue to be a statistic in this space, especially 187 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: when it's preventable, and we're talking about HIV or any 188 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: sexual transmitted infection. It's preventable. It's preventable, and so why 189 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: aren't certain activities being talked about in certain spaces being 190 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: normalized in certain spaces. 191 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 5: And that's what we intend to do. 192 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: That's what we are doing, particularly in black and brown communities. 193 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: So that's why I'm here, and that's what I want 194 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 5: to do. 195 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: Hey, lady, it's Terry here, Dom and I want to 196 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: take a moment to thank you for choosing to listen 197 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: to our podcast. We love you for real, and we 198 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: want to give you a chance to learn more about 199 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: what's important to us. 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And so let's let's talk a little 238 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: bit about, like going back to that quote of the day, 239 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: of understanding who the people are that we interact with, right, 240 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: and so let's get to know doctor Maisha and. 241 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: What is so? 242 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 5: What is your origin story? 243 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: How did you become the doctor Maysha that we we 244 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: see today? Who is the doctor Masha we see today? 245 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll talk a little bit about who you 246 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: see today who I was kind of developed prior to 247 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: me even being born, because this is my this is 248 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: the destiny of my great grandparents. So understanding that where 249 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: I am so, I am fourth generation HBCU. And if 250 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: people don't know what that is, that's historically Black college 251 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: and university educated. So my great grandmother attended Miles College. 252 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if some of you know that, but 253 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: it's a small school in Alabama, Birmingham. My great grandmother 254 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: was educated and became a teacher back then of many 255 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: again knowing HBCUs, they educated, especially the young women to 256 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: be teachers and educators to educate their own prior to 257 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: desegregation efforts, and so she was there in Alabama pushing 258 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: through afterwards. I had a grandmother that went to Grady 259 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: School for Colored nurses in the late forties. Again understanding 260 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: that that is a very segregated institution, just caring for 261 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: minority patients and those who were most sick at that time, 262 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: and a segregated hospital, a segregated city, and a segregated profession. Right, 263 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: So hearing her stories talk about this and my grandfather 264 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: attending Morris Brown College and then afterwards Atlanta University, so 265 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: understanding that this was all planned and orchestrated prior to 266 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: me even being born, my father again going to institution, 267 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: and then understanding that transferring the desegregation process ended up 268 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: at Ohio State University, and that he was the first 269 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: one to go to an institution that wasn't segregated as 270 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: such in the seventies I'm sorry, late sixties, and ended 271 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: up staying there. I was born in Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, 272 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: so I'm a buck Eye by birth, and afterwards my 273 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: parents met at Ohio State University. 274 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 5: And we stayed there. 275 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: So I was born and raised in Columbus, Ohio to 276 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: two individuals who were very proud of who they are 277 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: and their family and their origins, and so ended up 278 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: becoming emboldened in the activist movement, particularly in the early 279 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: seventies was black activism, and therefore changed their birth names 280 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: to totally different names, not wanting to be identified as that, 281 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: but because they had a change of that. So therefore 282 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: them changing their name and their whole lifestyle legally wanted 283 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: to be embedded into the culture and thus having the 284 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: first child being named Maisha Engina Cambon, and wanted me 285 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: to be named because my life was to serve the 286 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: people and that's what my name meant. So, as I said, 287 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: it was before I was even born that this all 288 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: came to fruition. And then let me take a step 289 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: back as I talk about my great born and raised 290 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: an educated institution in Alabama. Her mother, my great great grandmother, 291 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: and her husband acquired land in rural Alabama. We still 292 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: have those three hundred acres that are there in rural Alabama. 293 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: So they were one of those that were able to 294 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: keep more than forty acres in a mule, as opposed 295 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: to some other people we know and family members. I 296 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: know that it was written off when they were told, hey, 297 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: just sign your name here and land was taken from them. 298 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: Still to this today, we have the land. 299 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: But she said, I want it to be important because 300 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: I want my grandchildren to go to college. I want 301 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: my great grandchildren to go to college. I want my 302 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 2: great great grandchildren, and that is who I am. So 303 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: as we talk about another quote that I live by, 304 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: that I am my ancestors wildest and achievable dream. That 305 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: is why I'm here today. So as I talk about 306 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: that full forward, we're doing this because I have not 307 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: only a lineage and a history and those ancestors that 308 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 2: I have to repay, but as I see, you know, 309 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: cultivated kind of my story in terms of education, it 310 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: was okay, you're going to of course, I'm in education. 311 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm okay, you are going to be a doctor. I'm 312 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: like okay, And so I'm pushing forward and getting into 313 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: those spaces of being My mother was a teacher and 314 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: up being a teacher and educated my father in local politics, 315 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: sow up at a political household, understanding the importance of 316 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: policy and advocacy and activism, all while teaching the next generation. 317 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: So was this embedded and laid out, and that was 318 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: the foundation that me and my sisters grew up in. 319 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: And so as we're navigating through this place, I also had, 320 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: you know, connectivity through faculty members and mentors and relatives 321 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: who are also professors at Ohio State and those who 322 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: were in the movement as well, and they said, hey, yeah, 323 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: you know, you can be a doctor. Come on, you're 324 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna, you know, treat and help educate those 325 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: who are underserved and most marginalized. And so that is 326 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: what I planned to do when I went graduated from 327 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: from school and went down to Spelman College, and I thought, okay, 328 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a doctor, and so I be 329 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: real transparent. I loved it. I also loved the freedom 330 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: and and it wasn't as easy, but I loved the 331 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: freedom of being in Atlanta, Georgia. I'm like, oh this 332 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: my parents out here. Oh we're about to have fun. 333 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: We're about to really get you down. And so we 334 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: had a great time. I tell the time that I had. 335 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: I didn't focus on my studies, so that biology major 336 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: didn't last long. But I said, okay, I don't know 337 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: if I want to stay here, but I tell people 338 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: it was also an opportunity for me to cultivate my 339 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: own space right, no longer living okay, by I mean 340 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: daddy did this, but now basically kind of carve out 341 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: my own journey. And that's when I started to become 342 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: very involved in health activistiness. 343 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 5: Particularly environmental justice. 344 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: I became the president of NAACP at Spellman College, and 345 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: worked with some initiatives locally with trying to prevent disproportionate 346 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: placement of landfills in communities of color, which often happens, 347 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: and especially in the early nineties, it was a big 348 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: push by doctor Benjamin Chavis and the NAACP and navigating 349 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: through some of the efforts there, through that organization and 350 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: through some local community based organizations, and so found that 351 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: I really wanted to get more into the health impacts 352 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: of environmental injustice throughout the South. While I experimented and 353 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: with you know, some programs and was able to go 354 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: into internships, worked with one of the fathers of environmental justice, 355 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: doctor Robert Bullard at Clark Atlanta University. It was Environmental 356 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: Justice Resource Center, and we were you know, kind of 357 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: pushing through and so I said, okay, I want to 358 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 2: stay in this space. Ended up going to get my 359 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: master's in public health in environmental urban health at Roland 360 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: School of Public Health, and then I said, okay, I 361 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: really enjoy you know, some of this as I took 362 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: also took classes at Morehouse College in public health. That 363 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: is when I really started to kind of learn about 364 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: public health and what it means to be a public 365 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: health professional right now you can also work with community 366 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: organizations and also work with the state. You can also 367 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: work with federal government entities and changing some of the 368 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: trajectory of what is to happen in communities of color. 369 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: And so since that opportunity, I continued to stay in 370 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: contact and connectivity with my networks within the EJ space, 371 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: and I ended up going to work at the Centers 372 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: of Disease Control and Prevention in the National Center for 373 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: Environmental Health, working alongside and with research focusing on environmental 374 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: contaminants in landfills, brown fields, EPA as well. I had 375 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: an internship there, and I really said, this is really great. 376 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: I ended up being conducting my own research study and 377 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: focusing on asthma in urban healthcare settings during the Olympics, 378 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: right in nineteen ninety six in Atlanta, so really understanding that. 379 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: But then I also, you know, you're exposed to a 380 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: number of things in school, and wanted to find a 381 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: little bit out about global environ mental health. So I 382 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: was able to be afforded a federal fellowship and go 383 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: down to Jamaica and conduct my own environmental research study 384 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: in Jamaica with some of the free zone areas and 385 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: respiratory factories free zone areas which are factories for garment factories, 386 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: and then assessed some of the respiratory elements that were there. 387 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: So I've had a that was initially kind of the 388 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: first step. So I've had a very had a great 389 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: introduction into public health and knowing that I wanted to 390 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: situate my career there, but at that time I was 391 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: also in the government, and I'm like, Okay, I'm getting 392 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: a little stagnant. I want to go and still be 393 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: with the community because at that time I couldn't really 394 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: you know, kind of force it and conduct research that 395 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to conduct, and ended up meeting mentors at 396 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: the CDC. Great opportunity for me to learn and to 397 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: sit under great individuals who were, you know, doing some 398 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: work kind of federally insert internally in the federal government system. 399 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: But they said, my shot, I think you might probably 400 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: want to go back and maybe get your PhD if 401 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: that's what you'd like to do, create the you know, 402 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: and learn some skill sets and then develop your own 403 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: research portfolio in environmental health that links to cancer, that 404 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: links to disproportionate impacts in black women, whether it be 405 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: breast cancer, whether it be you know, a respiratory elements 406 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: and so ended up going a meeting again. My mentor 407 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: was a medical anthropologist, and I'd like, oh, okay, what 408 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: is that you know? So it was great opportunity I did. 409 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: I was the sociology. Ended up shifting from biology to 410 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: sociology and undergrad focusing on medical sociology and looking at 411 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: the impacts of maternal health and societal impacts early on, 412 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: and ended up going and getting into a PhD program 413 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: and down in South Florida and really again obtaining additional insight. 414 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: I tell people, it just kind of naturally occur. I 415 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: said this path was destined for me because it wasn't hard, 416 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: and thought I was just going to be in Florida 417 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: for two years to take classes to come back and 418 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: finish up my dissertation in Atlanta, but ended up saying 419 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: it twelve years. You know, life was life. Ended up 420 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: meeting someone, got married, that baby, all that stuff that happens, right, 421 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: and so stayed there longer than I anticipated, over twelve years, 422 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: and just had a fascinating time. Ended up working with 423 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: a cancer disparities effort because of course, shifting from environmental 424 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: health and impacts that it had upon cancer outcomes, ended 425 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: up working back in the cancer space that I had 426 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: also kind of focused on prior to me departing CDC 427 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: and really situated again myself in community settings where I 428 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: ran a barbershop project and prostate cancer outcomes, and that 429 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: was a great opportunity. And it's focused on an academic 430 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: where we call it community based iniratory research and it 431 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: just doesn't but you know, getting the insight from the community, 432 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 2: getting the insight on how people are feeling, what's going on. 433 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: You know, are you going to get your prostate Do 434 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: you know what prostate cancer? Do you know what prostate is? 435 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: You know what prostate cancer is not? Do you know 436 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: what it is? So again, getting the basic ways and 437 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: then utilizing you know, those natural settings, you know when 438 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: we know the highest risk of those who are dying 439 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 2: and being diagnosed or black men with prostate cancer. So 440 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: we were like, Okay, they're not coming to the doctor, 441 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: We're going to take it to them. So we went 442 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: into barbershops. Barbers were the greatest because they said, Hey, 443 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: this is my kingdom, this is my kingdom. 444 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 5: I could talk. 445 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: I've had men tell me that they've been, you know, 446 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: unfaithful to the wives, they've been diagnosed with HIV, they've 447 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: had other factors going on, and they could tell They 448 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 2: don't even tell their family members their wives, but they 449 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: can tell me as I'm sitting here cutting their hair 450 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: for thirty minutes to an hour. And so we said, hey, 451 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, let's create a barbershop educational program where we 452 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: train the trains also called train the Trainer program, where 453 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: we train barbers to be ambassadors and talk about glass 454 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: state cancer right. And it's just a natural setting. Often 455 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: some people know about the beauty salon of projects as 456 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: for Black women educating stylists on how to tell their 457 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: clients about breast cancer examinations prevention, and so that was 458 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: also that's also great opportunity because we tapped in two 459 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: black women in beauty salons to also promote PSAs in 460 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: prostate cancer education. Because if you don't know, many black 461 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: women who are married or a Black men who have 462 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: a significant other are often motivated to go get checked, 463 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: whether it be you know, an annual exam or anything 464 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: that's bothering them, motivated by their significant other. Black women 465 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 2: utilizing that connectivity and that relationship, understanding the relationships that 466 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: happen in terms of health examinations and communication. Then that's 467 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: what we also focused on. So we're you know, we're 468 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: utilizing that and some of the efforts right now with 469 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: our HIV campaign and our initiatives. So that's a little 470 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 2: bit of me also delving into some of the policy 471 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: efforts because we worked with community health workers also known 472 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: as those who are staples in the community, whether they 473 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: be in your church, whether they be in the barbershops, 474 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: whether they be in the beauty salons, whether they be 475 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: at the laundry maat. That is where we educate and 476 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: we take a cohort of individuals and inform them. You 477 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: know that may not have the didactic education of a 478 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: master's or PhD, but they are natural Often we call 479 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: them gatekeepers on those who know what's going on. We 480 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: we're educating ministries of health in black churches to talk 481 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: about cancer, different cancers, whether it be breast cancer where 482 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: they prostate cancer rather be colon cancer, and for individuals 483 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: to seek them out if they ever needed resources to 484 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: go to the doctor. And it was working in tandem 485 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: with oncologists with a cancer center down in Florida to 486 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: help Hey, we need to make sure that we're educated 487 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: and helping power. That's another thing in terms of keeping 488 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: that thread of empowerment into individuals that often may have 489 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: a defeatist or an oppressed situation that they feel that 490 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: they can get up. Many people don't have health insurance, 491 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: you know, so people feel defeated. Well, if I don't 492 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: have health insurance and I feel a lump in my 493 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: breasts or I feel i'm you know, I'm urinating blood, 494 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: where do I need to go? How do I need 495 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: to get this? Get this checked? Often maybe even scared 496 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: to go right because they know that their mother had 497 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: colon cancer, their father at prostate cancer, so oh my gosh, 498 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: this might be a diagnosis. But making them in a 499 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: space that's safe and comfortable to make it say hey, 500 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: it's okay. I'm going to help you navigate through the system. 501 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: And so we worked with navigators and community health workers 502 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: to help people walk through some of the screening processes, 503 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: the resources beyond just the clinical office. We know that 504 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: it's often not just someone that's going to a clinical office. 505 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: They are people that are dealing with situations of paying 506 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: their bills. People don't have enough money to pay the bills, 507 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: so you know, where can I get resources? We don't 508 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: have enough transportation to get to a doctor let alone, 509 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: you know, find a doctor who can either have you know, 510 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: coverage through a medicaid or another system. So helping you 511 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: manage your life throughout cancer diagnosed. So so that is what 512 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: I helped manage down in Florida and work with policymakers 513 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: and community health workers to push some legislation and inform 514 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: those policy polity makers that community health workers and navigators 515 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: are solely solely responsible for some efforts on how to 516 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: navigate through the community and assist those who are most 517 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: marginalized because ultimately, someone being diagnosed with a chronic disease 518 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: and you know, it's very high in terms of the 519 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: return from the state from counties and so making sure 520 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: we have it throughout the entire public health system is key. 521 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: So that's what landed me up back into more high 522 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: school of medicine. 523 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: So wow, doctor Maysha, Okay, there go in some ways, 524 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: that is an amazing one. 525 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: There were so many things that came up. 526 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure for doctor don and myself as you're sharing one, 527 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about how every black woman, especially every 528 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: young girl needs to know your name because of all 529 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: the possibilities and what you've already done in your life. 530 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 4: As you began to list and this is just some 531 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: of the things that were connected to your origin story. 532 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 4: I'm like, how many lifetimes do doctor Maischel live? How 533 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 4: much time day that she had, because this is you 534 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: are making an impact so incredible. And then I want 535 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: to go back to what you shared about your ancestors. 536 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: So empowering to know your history the way that you 537 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: know it and to you know, I think about your 538 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: great great grandmother and her vision and intentionality that she 539 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: had for her descendants. There was just so much there 540 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: to unpack and it was so inspiring. So thank you 541 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 4: so much for sharing. And I want to tap into 542 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: some of that ancestral knowledge and some of your insight. 543 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: And we kind of talked about this in the beginning, 544 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: but you know, we talked about how black women are 545 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: continuing to lead in new HIV diagnosis. And I know 546 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: that just STI is in general, right, but I know 547 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: that there have been women that I've talked to and 548 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 4: I think that there are some things that I've noticed, 549 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: But because you're the expert, I want to know what 550 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 4: you've noticed. I've heard women talk about, you know, having 551 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: unprotected sex with a partner, but also sort of having 552 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 4: this mistrusted or this misplaced trust and a partner having 553 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: their partner sort of own their health really not really 554 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: taking ownership. So I want to know from your perspective, 555 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: what are some common themes that you see among women 556 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: who've contracted HIV and how can we break that cycle, 557 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: because I'm sure there's something we can talk about today 558 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: to kind of let other women know, Oh, I should 559 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: be doing this or I should be aware of this. 560 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and again, thank you. 561 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: Get backtracking to providing more of some statistical efforts in 562 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: terms of what is guiding what we're doing now, and 563 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: again we're talking about me. At SATCHR Health Leadership Institute, 564 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: there is a campaign called Georgia Thrives. This particular campaign 565 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: aims to address the needs of black communities throughout urban 566 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: and rural locations in Georgia, not just Atlanta. But we 567 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: know that Atlanta is a great metropolis, but we have 568 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: the we've seen the trail and the outcome of what 569 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: is occurring outside of those initial counties surrounding Atlanta, particularly 570 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: along the corridor of seventy five souths going toward Florida. 571 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: And so we're trying to grapple with how we you know, 572 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: being culturally responsive. People call it culturally competent. You're like, okay, 573 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: we know kind of the competency was there, but responsive 574 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: to black women, to same gender loving men, to trans 575 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: populations very diverse, to those who are fluid, to heterosexual 576 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: men as well, and some men who are heterosexual who 577 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: are diagnosed with HIV they're often left out. And so 578 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 2: how do we know grapple with education? And there are 579 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: some things just wanted to highlight, particularly in Georgia, with 580 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 2: black women in Georgia being close to twelve times more 581 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: likely to be. 582 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 5: Diagnosed with HIV than white women. Did you hear. 583 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: Twelve times more likely to be diagnosed with HIV than 584 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: white women? So we sit back and you're trying to say, okay, okay, 585 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: And you've touched on it a bit terry of. 586 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 5: How the black women we are empowered. We are really 587 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 5: we really speak up. 588 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: To a certain point and somehow in some of our 589 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: you know, colleagues, we're talking, but once it gets to 590 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: the intimate relationship part, there's something that breaks down in 591 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: that and we talk about we're strong, we're imminent, we're this, 592 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: but when it comes to the intimacy, and it doesn't 593 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: have to just you know, be a sexual activity, but 594 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: the intimacy level, what's happening there, there's a breakdown psychologically, 595 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 2: like a don we can talk about, you know, what 596 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 2: is really going on is generationally, what did we see 597 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: Grandma do? What did we see mom do? Is that 598 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: what we're going to do? What do we see on 599 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: social media? What do we see a mainstream media? We 600 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: are powerful. We just saw how many of us focused 601 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 2: and held our guards up over this last election. 602 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 5: So over ninety percent of us voted for a black woman. 603 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: But when it comes to these relationships that we have 604 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: and whether it be in our household and whether we 605 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: have trying to date, there's a breakdown. There's a breakdown. 606 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: And so we're not a monolist as well. We need 607 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: to understand that, as we have also learned throughout this 608 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: last election, we are not a monolith. So we need 609 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: to really understand what's going on with those Southern women 610 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: that either have transplanted down to Atlanta or those Southern 611 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: women who have grown up generations in rural Southeast Georgia 612 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: that haven't been out of their county and that is, 613 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: all the men that they engage with are there. So 614 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: what do we need to do? And so we've conducted, 615 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: you know, again, assessing what's going on. We've sat down 616 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: conductive focus groups, and focus groups give us a general 617 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: synopsis of what's happening, but we know it's not kind 618 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 2: of that one on one and we need to understand 619 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 2: some very important factors to say, Okay, in this relationship, 620 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: how how are you connecting? I remember back in the 621 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: nineties as I talked about tell you how we're dating myself, 622 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: But in the nineties, it was we were talking about STDs, right, 623 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: called the sexual transmitted diseases sexual transmitted infections now, but 624 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: it was called condom negotiation and pushing condoms where everywhere, Right, 625 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: that was the first thing condoms comes. And I tell people, 626 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: we don't see that as much anymore. And I'm in 627 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: a collegiate setting. You do not see that. I was 628 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: in college in nineties and I'm like, okay, and I 629 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: talked to my students, well, I teach it at undergrad institutions, 630 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: I teach at Emory, I teach at Spew, when I 631 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: teach at Morehouse, and you don't see that. You don't 632 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 2: hear it as much as well. You do not see 633 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: it often on television and commercials in terms of condom 634 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: usage because at that time you're talking about condom negotiation 635 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: and the power that women hold and have and how 636 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: do you you know that trust issue, which I think 637 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 2: is a key factor of trusting someone. When we conducted 638 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: focus groups back then in the nineties, it was okay, 639 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 2: if I asked my man to have a condom, or 640 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: if he sees me at a condom, he doesn't trust me, 641 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 2: and we say, okay, that's that's fine. But that neglect 642 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: of that pushback is not as emboldened when it comes to, 643 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 2: you know, the dynamic and the conversation that you have 644 00:38:54,360 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: with protecting yourself and what's missing, what it's missing and 645 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 2: my purpose especially with these younger women, and we're talking 646 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: about it now as we navigate in terms of some 647 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: communication going into working with social influencers and saying, okay, 648 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 2: what's happening. Can you you know we're going to bring 649 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: in some young women, you know, even talking about how 650 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: we need to do this after school programs. We're able 651 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: to do some things with Boys and Girls club. If 652 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: we can't be in a school setting, what are some 653 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: other efforts also linking through some sororities, civic organizations, even 654 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: also going into some churches which surprisingly, now over forty 655 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: years when AIDS and HIV came to tuition and public knowledge, 656 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: the beyond stigma, that beyond stigma needs to really continue 657 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: to be normalized when we talk about HIV, when we 658 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: talk about the progression to AIDS, we know that there 659 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: have been some advance answers, right especially in the Black church. 660 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 2: And you also have affirming churches, especially we work with 661 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 2: the firming churches throughout Georgia in Atlanta, you have those 662 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: churches that really explain and talk about the need for protection. 663 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 2: And you know, in all things that you do, but 664 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: to hear individuals still talk about no, I don't need 665 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 2: to use condoms and I don't need to and you're thinking, okay, okay, 666 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: why why that's the next question. 667 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 5: Well, it takes away the feeling. 668 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: You know, we get to it, We get to it 669 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 2: in these focus groups, we get to it when I'm 670 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: one on one with women and men. You know, well, 671 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: why you even had some feedback where people saying, well, 672 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: now you know HIV can be treated by my got HIV. 673 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 2: I could take a pill every day. These are things 674 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: that we hear. These are things that we hear, and 675 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: it's just like, okay, yeah, okay, you could take a 676 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: pill every day, but that's a medicine that breaks down 677 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 2: and comes through your liver bring you know, and other 678 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: things that come on. Because again we're talking about just 679 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 2: the diagnosis of HIV. 680 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 5: We're not talking under health equity. 681 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 2: We know other things happen, particularly with us, disproportionately in 682 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 2: terms of diagnosed with diabetes, with cancer, with prostate cancer, 683 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: for men, with cervical a, breast cancer, with women. So 684 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 2: under the umbrella of health inequities, we're not just talking 685 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: about one diagnosis. Things will come high blood pressure, things 686 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: will come mental anguish and despair. So we have to 687 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: really cut And there was another thing in terms of 688 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: we talk about solutions we get I'm sure getting to 689 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: it that way, but as we talk about some things 690 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: that we're doing and those prioritize populations for black women, 691 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: as we talk about or twelve times as likely, So 692 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 2: what does that say that's especially in the space that 693 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: we are in Atlanta and Georgia, that we know that 694 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: obviously sex is very fluid in some of these spaces 695 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 2: with men and with women, and we're finding that with 696 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: men going back, you know, with women going back maybe 697 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: having and protected sex possibly with men and also with women, 698 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 2: we know that there might be of course, there are 699 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: going to be some factors that we need to really highlight, 700 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: and so getting into the communities and with individuals that 701 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: are able to be talked to and understood and help navigate, 702 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: we're able to push things forward. So we're going in 703 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: some house communities and ballrooms and kind of focusing on hey, 704 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: you know what's happening, and some people want to get 705 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: the lead, the mothers and the room, you know. So 706 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: we're looking at very creative spaces that we talked about. 707 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: We did into barbershop projects, but you know, where else 708 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: can we go When we were talking about saying ginger 709 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 2: loving black population, trusted population, because on top of that, 710 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 2: we're dealing with stigma, we're dealing with racism, we're dealing 711 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 2: with all those other isms that we have to understand. 712 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 2: And then you even need to talk about those who 713 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: are in rural spaces and maybe in activity, engaged in 714 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 2: activity that they don't want anybody to know about, and 715 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 2: the only place to go and get prep or some 716 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: medicine is that you know, everyone knows if you go 717 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 2: into that house, you know you have HIV. You auntie, 718 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: your uncle, your cousin may work in this clinic that 719 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: you know. There's only one clinic that people go to 720 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: that they know that they get medicine. So you're looking 721 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 2: at anonymity, you're looking at confidentiality, particularly in those rural spaces, 722 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 2: and so how do you come back that? And so 723 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 2: we're going down to these spaces and making sure that 724 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: we have the connectivity where the resources, whether they be 725 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: more house healthcare or the community based organizations that we 726 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: work with. And we're also connecting with those other HBCUs. 727 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 2: They are only just HBCUs in Atlanta, Georgia. There are 728 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 2: four others that are in these rural spaces. So we're 729 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: working with those other institutions throughout the state, but not 730 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: just those, We are also working with some other pwis 731 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: that are in some of the southern locations because they 732 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: also have great resources there. So we continue to work 733 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: dynamically a multisectoral in terms of what we need to 734 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 2: do because we know we need to do more and 735 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: again not siloing. What we're talking about is, you know 736 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: focusing on maternal child health. I'm sure you've had discussions 737 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 2: about that. Black maternal health is very key now, and 738 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: so we're linking it with other community based organizations and 739 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 2: discussions as we talk about HIV, let's talk about black 740 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 2: maternal health, let's talk about reproductive cancers, and then we're 741 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: all kind of getting together in this pot and hopefully 742 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: coming to some sustainable solutions, not just grant funded, but sustainable. 743 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: This is such important work that you are doing, and 744 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 3: the state of Georgia is lucky to have you, and 745 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 3: it's making me wonder like, where where are other doctor 746 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 3: Mayish's across the country so that our entire Black community, 747 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, as a whole in this country can benefit 748 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 3: and we can. We could probably sit and talk for 749 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 3: hours about all of this important work that you're doing, 750 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 3: and so, but I know our listeners are also you know, 751 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: they're they're not able to sit with us for hours. 752 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 3: And so one of the things that you mentioned that 753 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure our listeners are curious about is prep. 754 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: Right. 755 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 3: So you talked about like there are a lot of 756 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 3: why women and people in general aren't protecting themselves is 757 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 3: because they're like I can there are things that I 758 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: can take for this. 759 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 2: Right, and so. 760 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 3: Talk to us about what the newer medications are that 761 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 3: and other ways of preparing. If folks are if folks 762 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 3: are saying like I don't I'm not using a condom, 763 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 3: what are the medications that they can take beforehand? What 764 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 3: are the current treatments like for HIV? 765 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 2: Now, okay, So the current treatments are very successful and 766 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 2: we're working with this project is funded through Gilead Sciences 767 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 2: that there are Pumous pharmaceutical company focusing on treatments for 768 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 2: those who have been diagnosed with HIV very productive and 769 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: they help keep you know, definitely your viral load suppressed, 770 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: very successful years of that and then also knowing some 771 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 2: activity that is ongoing and you know, highlighting. Okay, so 772 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 2: people are unable to and some people we know aren't 773 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 2: able to maybe use a condom certain ways, but then 774 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: what else can you use? And so as you highlighted, 775 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 2: doctor Donds, you talk about PREP, right, what is prep 776 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 2: It is their prophylaxis and so people understand what is 777 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: that and that's a medicine you can take. And again 778 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm talking I often related in my early days in 779 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: the nineties of talking about a birth control, you know, 780 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 2: and those are things that you think and I kind 781 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 2: of related, okay in birth control, those were times when 782 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 2: you had to talk about, hey, do you want birth control? 783 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: You can go get take that every day and those 784 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: that's basically what you can do for PREP to make 785 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: that analogy. So PREP primarily focused on those who are 786 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 2: prioritized communities. So we see same gender loving men trans 787 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: as well if you're talking about the sexual activity that's there, 788 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: and then also talking with black women, and that's been 789 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 2: some efforts have been established and so it's still trying 790 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 2: to figure out how do we communicate that. But again 791 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 2: that is kind of deemed as a medical solution. But 792 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 2: as we talk with those populations that need to be prioritized, 793 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 2: particularly those of color, because black men are also more 794 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: diagnosed here in Georgia than any other men as well, 795 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: particularly in Atlanta. As we talk about in the southern US, 796 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: HIV infection rate is more prevalent among black men and 797 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 2: women than in any other location in the Southern States. 798 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 2: In the Southern States, particularly in Georgia, Louisiana, the Carolinas, 799 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,959 Speaker 2: and Florida. Understanding that in black males are almost seven 800 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 2: times more likely to be diagnosed than white males. So again, 801 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: as we start to really focus though, who do we 802 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 2: really need to target direct communication with for prep use 803 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: and promotion in terms of uptake Black men and women. Right, 804 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 2: and if you are having sex, you are able to 805 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: get HIV, just understanding that you are more liable to 806 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: get a sexual transmitted infection. We're seeing the rates of 807 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 2: syphilis and gonorrhea increase, so normally when you see that 808 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 2: the progression is going to occur, and we're also seeing 809 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 2: it in younger individuals from you know, almost eleven years 810 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 2: old on up. We're seeing the increase and sexual transmitted infections. 811 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: We're seeing the increase in diagnosis of HIV and younger 812 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: people as well. We work with you know, college wellness 813 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 2: centers and particularly at Morehouse School of Medicine and Morehouse Healthcare. 814 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 2: We house the Atlanta University a student wellness center where 815 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 2: we are seeing toil. We are seeing students come in 816 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 2: diagnosed and freshman year diagnosed with HIV. Then we take 817 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 2: it upon our responsibility that okay, we need to take 818 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 2: this and so we know that we need to not 819 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: just go into orientation, but we need to go into dorms. 820 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 2: Male female we've been asked to go into athletic departments 821 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 2: because the athletic directors are coming to individuals saying, I 822 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 2: don't know what to do. 823 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 5: Say you know, this is beyond it. They're like, what 824 00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 5: do we do? 825 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 2: We've given condoms, but the young man said, they don't 826 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 2: want to use them, So how do we communicate and 827 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 2: sustain and make sure that they understand the importance and 828 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 2: the empowerment. 829 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 5: Yes, in terms of self healthy decision making. 830 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 2: So as we talk about prep making sure that when 831 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 2: we see these commercials as well as it has been 832 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 2: communicated to those particular pharmaceutical companies along with we're working 833 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 2: with v GSK in terms of educating populations, is that 834 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: when you see these commercials, you don't just see non 835 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 2: black people who are living and walking and thriving along 836 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 2: the beach. When you talk about HIV, we need to 837 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: see black people. We need to see black women with families. 838 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 2: We have a number of black women with families that 839 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 2: when they're diagnosed, they either getting diagnosed just because they're 840 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: going in thinking they'rewith a monogamous partner and they're getting 841 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 2: diagnosed at the time that they're finding out they're pregnant 842 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: they're also finding out the time that they also are 843 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 2: HIV positive. Number of women that we work with that 844 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 2: that's how they have that's how they find out and 845 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 2: they have other children. So how do we make sure 846 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 2: that this stays as an important factor within the black 847 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 2: community as a whole right, making sure we normalize it. 848 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 2: Whenever you see or hear about HIV. There's no longer 849 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 2: a stigma of white gay male that was forty years ago, 850 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: and it has transition to black male. It has transitioned 851 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: over to white to black women now. 852 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 5: So we need to make. 853 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: Sure it's normalized in churches where we have to have 854 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: been able to stand up and talk. That is an 855 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 2: advance that we've talked about over forty years, to have 856 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 2: pastors talk about it from the polepit and say, hey, 857 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 2: this is this is something because you know that those 858 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: pastors that were forty years ago, they're younger, you know, 859 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 2: they're grown now. They were young then and know and 860 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 2: we all know people that have passed. I remember being 861 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 2: you know, young and in the eighties and understanding, okay, 862 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,959 Speaker 2: these people my church past what happened close family member, uncle, 863 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: what happened, Oh he was sick passed Over years later 864 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 2: finding out it was the HIV seeds. So we need 865 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,479 Speaker 2: to now be more for us coming as I talked 866 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 2: with my young son, what's happening in school from fifth 867 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: grade on up? These are things that we need to 868 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 2: make sure. We're helping parents to talk and be open 869 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 2: with their children as well, so understanding as we talk about, 870 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 2: you know, prevention efforts and what's happening in the HIV, 871 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 2: making sure it's normalized for black women. It's okay, we 872 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 2: are HIV possible. If you are having sexual activity, you 873 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 2: are HIV possible. We're linking up with social influences say 874 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 2: you are possible. And while we're doing that, linking up 875 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 2: with clinicians who are obgyns at your annual and obgyn 876 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: are saying, hey, okay, is that activity you ever thought about? 877 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 2: Prep and women are saying, oh no, that's a gaate, 878 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: that's a gay of medicine. No no, And we have 879 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 2: you know, obji that's say no, no, no, no, it's 880 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,359 Speaker 2: not sit there and take the time out of their 881 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 2: day to do that. And so we're making sure that 882 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: we are not just providing the information but embolden some 883 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: of these clinicians that may have been practicing and it 884 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 2: was not in their standard of care to even talk 885 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: about it. So when I talked to Maobigyana, I said, 886 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: you asked me about PREP. 887 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 5: She said, oh, you said you And I said, no, 888 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 5: you know you need to do that. 889 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 2: So again she's right, You're right. And so now we 890 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 2: have connected with some other pharmaceutical companies that say we 891 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 2: need to have this as a standard of practice, and 892 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,280 Speaker 2: we have a toolkit, so you can have this toolkit 893 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 2: whether you're in rural South, whether you are in Rule Louisiana. 894 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: We were connecting with Xavier University through their College of 895 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: Pharmacy to focus on so their pharmacists can actually go 896 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 2: and someone comes to them and they can prescribe them PREP. 897 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 2: Because we're pushing that out there, knowing that when you 898 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 2: see people like so when you see your doctor not 899 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 2: and we understand not everyone has a black doctor can 900 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: be seen at Morehouse Healthcare. But making sure that you 901 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: see this commercial, you can go and ask your physician 902 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 2: and say, hey, okay, I saw a commercial talked about PREP. 903 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 2: I'm interested, what do you know? And making sure clinicians 904 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: are ready to answer those questions very key. So there 905 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 2: are great medical solutions out there, the treatments that are 906 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 2: out there for those who are diagnosed and those who 907 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 2: would like to prevent. Thank you so much, doctor Maisha. 908 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 4: This has been so insightful and we are so grateful 909 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 4: for you and the work that you're doing. And we'd 910 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 4: love for you to share with our listeners how can 911 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 4: they connect with you any next steps that you recommend 912 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 4: that they take. Time flew by so fast, we want 913 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 4: to make sure that we get that information to them. 914 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 5: Well, I thank you so much. Please go to Georgia 915 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 5: Thrives dot org. 916 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 2: Georgia Thrives dot org. That is where all of the 917 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 2: information is on this particular campaign. 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