1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Well, well, come out your city. Comfort zone will be. 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Hot and if you. 3 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Want a little bang and I come along. 4 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: According to the regulatory and operative definition of P three 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: c O, the ni H did not fund gain of 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And you 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: know they have misinformation. Donald Trump was a threat to democracies. 8 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 4: But it's like their slogan, I'm a threat to democracy. 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 5: I'm the opposite, they're the threat to democracy. 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 6: Well my reaction was, I was at Costco my my 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 6: my watch started to buzz, and I got so excited 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 6: I started leaking a little bit. 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: Believe it or not, There's only one hundred and fifty 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: two days left till you get some food. Be away, 15 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 4: I'm coming to your sen. 16 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 6: Go away. 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 7: I'll get too, and saying you. 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 8: A conscious song. 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: From coast to coast, from border to border, from c 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: to Shining Sea. Sean Kennedy is on. Stay right here 21 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: for our final news roundup and Information Overload. 22 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 8: I do is round up Information Overload hour. Here's our 23 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 8: toll free number at S eight hundred nine four one, Shawn. 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 8: If you want to be a part of the program. 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 8: Former Congressman former gubernatorial candidate Lee's Eldon as well, sir, 26 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 8: how are you hey? 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 6: John good? 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: All right? 29 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 6: How are you? 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm good. 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 8: So I said this to you before, I'm gonna repeat it, 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 8: and there's a reason I'm going to repeat it, and 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 8: I'll get to that. On the other side, if you 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 8: would run for governor under the current conditions or under 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 8: the conditions that you ran a couple of years ago, 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 8: I contend you probably would have won the race. 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: I think the. 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 8: Biggest challenge that you were facing is what has been 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 8: a steady, massive migration out of New York and into 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 8: places like Florida and the Carolinas and Tennessee and Texas 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 8: and other states around the country. Maybe you agree, maybe 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 8: you disagree. So in other words, people that would otherwise 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 8: have been open minded, inclined to maybe go for the 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 8: change that New York really needs, so many of them 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 8: have left that it put you at a decided disadvantage. 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 8: With all that said, you outperformed expectations by a huge 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 8: margin and actually ended up carrying across the finish line 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 8: in some well democratic plus democratic districts Republicans that actually 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 8: gave republic Looko's a majority in the House. 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: You played a big part in out of my view, there. 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 6: Have been a lot of Republicans who have fled the state. 52 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 6: It has happened now for years as the state has 53 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 6: been on in decline and New Yorkers might go travel 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 6: to where their family or other friends have relocated to 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 6: and they realize that their money will go further, They'll 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 6: feel safer, they get to live life freer, and the 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 6: decision becomes easier. The breaking point in New York gets 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 6: closer and the options are clear. So yeah, a lot 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 6: of Republicans have fled the state. Now since twenty twenty two, 60 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 6: you have had more Democrats reaching their breaking point being 61 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 6: set up by Democrats in the state and independent minded 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: voters as well. When I ran in twenty twenty two, 63 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 6: the Biden border crisis wasn't a top three issue for 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 6: many New Yorkers. Now it's number one issue. Eric Adams's 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 6: numbers are in a tank at the Hochel's numbers have 66 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 6: gone down the drain. Joe Biden's numbers are worse. So 67 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four, the atmosphere, the political earth in 68 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 6: New York has moved to the right because of all 69 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 6: of that, and I think that there is a real 70 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: opportunity for a good year in states like New York 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 6: because of the consequences of democratic policies and the reality 72 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 6: of the moment. 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Look, you may be right, I may be wrong. 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 8: I'm one of the many hundreds of thousands that did 75 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 8: leave New York, as you know. But I was leaving anyway. 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 8: I mean, it just took me a long time to finally, 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 8: you know, be in a position where I could make 78 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 8: the switch. And it's not a decision I'll ever regret. 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 8: I can tell you that much. And by the way, 80 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 8: New York now state Democrats, who control the entire state government. 81 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 8: Then they now want to decriminalized prostitution. I did notice 82 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 8: that they have instituted a congestion tax. But because Kathy 83 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 8: Hochel is concerned about re election, my understanding is she's 84 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 8: going to put a hold on that, and I'm sure 85 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 8: if she is reelected, it'll instantly be put back in place. 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 8: But there are other things that New York is now 87 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 8: planning to do. I mean, it has been talked now 88 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 8: for a long time about a wealth tax, like California. 89 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 8: There's talk about an exit tax where if you leave 90 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 8: New York, they want the right to tax your income 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 8: even though you don't live there anymore, and you're not 92 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 8: a resident there anymore. Then there there's been a lot 93 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 8: of talk about, you know, billions of dollars spent in 94 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 8: reparations in states like New York. Meanwhile, the one thing 95 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 8: that would solve New York's problems, like bracking, which would 96 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 8: lower be able to be able to lower the tax 97 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 8: base significantly. And I know this was a big part 98 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 8: of your campaign, that's not even under consideration because radicals 99 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 8: basically run New York and I don't think it's I 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 8: don't see it getting any better. Add to it the 101 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 8: weaponization of justice in New York, and I just don't 102 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 8: see that that state's going to improve. And honestly, if 103 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 8: you really want to serve in government, Congressman, my advice 104 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 8: to you would be to get the hell out of 105 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 8: there and just see that handwriting on the wall. 106 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Now you may not like to hear that, but that's 107 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: my advice. That would be my advice. 108 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 6: The reality is it's not going to get better because 109 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 6: it is one party Democrat rule and in York City, 110 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 6: one party Democratic rule. Up in Albany's super majorities in 111 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 6: the Assembly in the Senate, as you pointed out, they're 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 6: all good points from the beginning as it relates to 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 6: the congestion tax to the end of that point regarding tracking, 114 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 6: and we're not even beginning to scratch the service on 115 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 6: the pro criminal laws that have been passed during law 116 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: enforcement under the bus prioritizing with free goodies people who 117 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 6: aren't even illegally in this country or in New York. 118 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 6: From the congestion pricing front, the news is that Kathy Hockel, 119 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 6: now with an election coming up just a few months away, 120 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 6: is saying that she's going to hit the pause on 121 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: this new tax. Now, what's amazing as far as being 122 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 6: in an indictment on the economy under Joe Biden and 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 6: Kathy Hockel, is that she's saying that New Yorkers can't 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 6: afford it. Well, this was an election issue when we 125 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 6: were running against each other two years ago. You weren't 126 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 6: saying that the economy wasn't going well. Then, you weren't 127 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 6: talking about inflation like you are now who's been in 128 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 6: charge for the last two years. On the other front, 129 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 6: you're talking about the safe extraction of natural gas. Were 130 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 6: rich in resources. They won't allow that. They should they 131 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 6: have banned the approvals of new construction on pipelines, Katy 132 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: Hoche will sign off on a new order to ban 133 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 6: the sale of gas powered vehicles, and the list goes on. 134 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: It all adds up, and that's why the state is 135 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 6: not heading in the right direction. It's not going to 136 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 6: get better. 137 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 8: Unless the California New York they're on parallel paths. You know, 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 8: they actually were so effective forcing people with the high 139 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 8: gas prices out in California. You know, you pay over 140 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 8: seven dollars a gallon on average, it's like twice the 141 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 8: national average for gasoline. So they've kind of were forcing 142 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 8: people into these electric vehicles. Now here's the interesting ballout 143 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 8: of all of that. Number one, they're more danger on 144 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 8: the road, and there was a study out that shows 145 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 8: that they actually pollute the environment more. But that's separate 146 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 8: and apart from everything else. But one of the fallouts 147 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 8: of this is their revenues have declined in terms of 148 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 8: gas taxes significantly. So now they're looking at a mileage 149 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 8: tax out in California, on a top of what are 150 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 8: billions of dollars in reparations, on top of their proposal 151 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 8: for an exit tax. You can't even leave the state 152 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 8: without them trying to haunt you for the rest of 153 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 8: your life and tax you even though you're not even 154 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 8: a you don't even live in the state. They want 155 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 8: to still tax you on income on top of a 156 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 8: wealth tax that they want to charge anybody that makes 157 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 8: any money. 158 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane. 159 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 6: And the crazy thing is, if you think about adding 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 6: up all of the left's agenda, if you really wanted to, 161 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 6: you know, your AOC, you have the keys to the castle, 162 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 6: and you want to implement your entire agenda. Bernie and 163 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 6: Elizabeth Warren and others. This goes beyond just increasing taxes. 164 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 6: And there's been a conversation where, you know, they love 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 6: the talking point of wanting people to pay their fair share. Well, 166 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 6: what is their fair share? Is it? 167 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: Is it? 168 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Well, let me give you an example in California. 169 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 8: Okay, a couple earning eighty four thousand dollars a year. Now, 170 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 8: you know, from New York pricing, that's nothing. You're not 171 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 8: living high on the hog on eighty four grand in 172 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 8: New York as a couple, you know, you're barely surviving. 173 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 8: And the same thing would exist out in California. And 174 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 8: if that is your income in California, they talk about 175 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 8: taxing the rich, Well, six percent of that eighty four 176 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 8: grand is going to go to the state and income taxes. 177 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 8: They're not just taxing the rich as they claim, They're 178 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 8: taxing everybody. 179 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 6: If they increase the tax to one hundred percent on 180 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 6: the wealthiest Americans, they still would not have enough money 181 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 6: to implement their entire agenda. They would have to actually 182 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: aren't confiscating the wealth of the wealthiest Americans. If you 183 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 6: confiscated all of it, it still would not be enough 184 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 6: to implement this entire agenda. Now there are Americans out there, 185 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 6: you know, maybe someone's in college, and you know they 186 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 6: see some press release where Joe Biden's offering the payoffs 187 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 6: their school loan and they make some quick, single issue 188 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 6: decision to cast a vote as a reward there. Well, 189 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 6: listen for the rest of us who understand how this 190 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 6: all works. When you see all the free goodies and 191 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 6: handouts to people who aren't even legally in our country, 192 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 6: the rest of us need to be asking tough questions 193 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 6: of where the heck does all this come from. The 194 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 6: Democrats are pandering and that should not be rewarded with 195 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,119 Speaker 6: more power. We should be rewarding people placing our trust 196 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 6: in folks who are not telling us just what we 197 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 6: want to hear to pander, but telling us that we 198 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: have a fiscal crisis in this country that can be 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 6: argued to be our greatest threat that we face right now. 200 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 6: What is the tough decision that you're willing to make 201 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 6: to fix it that might cost you votes, but you're 202 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 6: willing to say it and do it despite it. That's 203 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 6: the type of people we in office. 204 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 8: All right, quick break right back more with former gubernatorial 205 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 8: candidate and New York Congressman Lee Zeldon on the other 206 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 8: side than your calls eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean. 207 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: As we roll along, it's bringing you up people who 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: will make the news. 209 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 7: This is the Sean Hannity Show. 210 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 8: I we contention now with former New York congressman, former 211 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 8: Republican gubernatorial candidate from the state of New York le 212 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 8: He's helden. 213 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: Us with us. 214 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 8: I don't see any hope that this state is your state, 215 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 8: is going to turn around. 216 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I just don't you know. 217 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 8: If you have defund dismantled no bail laws, reimagine the 218 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 8: police and that is life in New York City. If 219 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 8: you have a sanctuary City, New York City. You have 220 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 8: a sanctuary state California, sanctuary cities like San Francisco. It's 221 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 8: gotten so bad that every major, you know, change store 222 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 8: has decided to close down because as long as you 223 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 8: steal less than one thousand dollars worth of junk from 224 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 8: a store, they're not going to arrest you. I mean, 225 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 8: they have let the inmates run the asylum you got 226 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 8: you know, you got safe shooting zones in these in 227 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 8: these states. It's just the quality of life is deteriorated. 228 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: You know. Now we have illegal immigrants. You saw the story. 229 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 8: One hundred and twenty one New York City hotels are 230 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 8: being used to house the illegal immigrants, and taxpayers in 231 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 8: New York and New York City have to pay the 232 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 8: bill for the housing and the food and the education 233 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 8: of their kids. And if some of them were incarcerated 234 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 8: for edge, the criminal justice system and then the healthcare 235 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 8: that they need all paid for by taxpayers in your state. 236 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: It is unsustainable. 237 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 6: Yet, and he just allowed the non citizens to vote 238 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 6: inside of New York. It was actually one of those 239 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 6: illegal migrants. 240 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, they tried to do that in New York City. 241 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 8: It was stopped by our court, but they passed it 242 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 8: in New York City. 243 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: Right now, one of those illegal migrants from Venezuela just 244 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 6: shot to police off NYPD officers a couple of days ago. 245 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 6: It was somebody illegally in the country who didn't show 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 6: up to his court date, who had an illegal firearm, 247 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 6: who was under investigation for part of all sorts of 248 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 6: arm robberies that were taking place. Yeah, then he shoots 249 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 6: two NYPD officers. Listen, I will say this too. Last week, 250 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 6: there were two poles that came out on New York 251 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 6: as relates to President Trump. The first one at Siena College, 252 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 6: Pole said that President Trump was out down nine. They 253 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 6: under polled Republicans only twenty two percent. They oversampled New 254 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 6: York City thirty nine percent. They didn't even ask Robert 255 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 6: Kennedy Junior as a name on the ballot. Still had 256 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 6: it as nine points. Then at the end of the 257 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 6: week a poll comes out from Emerson saying that President 258 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 6: Trump is down six. We saw the energy in the 259 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 6: South Bronx and even if let's just say President Trump 260 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 6: wasn't able to win New York. Putting that aside the 261 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 6: fact that in a state where President Trump lost by 262 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 6: twenty three points in twenty twenty. You're seeing that shift 263 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: the ground under us. This is more than just Republicans 264 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 6: voting Republican conservatives voting conservatives. There are disenfranchised Democrats, black voters, 265 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 6: Asian voters, Hispanic voters, and more who have been abused, 266 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 6: screwed by the Democratic Party. They're disenfranchised by it, and 267 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 6: now they have open arms waiting for us to show 268 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 6: up with conservative solutions. I'm telling Republicans, get into the cities, 269 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: go to blue areas like never before, don't pay their 270 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 6: show up with conservative solutions. I think there are a 271 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: lot of Democrats frady to vote Republicans. 272 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: You really, do you think it's really going to change. 273 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 6: I believe that it's and I don't blame and I 274 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 6: don't blame Democrats if we come up short. I blame 275 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 6: Republicans if we come up short. When a high paid 276 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 6: political consultant says not to go to the South Bronx 277 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 6: because they'll never vote for you, I say, that's exactly 278 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: where we need to go. And what happens when we 279 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 6: show up is that they're waiting with open arms because 280 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 6: not only have no Republicans been shown up, but no 281 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 6: Democrats have been shown up because the Democrats know even 282 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 6: if they don't show up that they're still going to 283 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 6: get them vote. But I think a lot of people 284 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 6: are realizing their vote's been taken for granted. We saw 285 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 6: it with the black voters in Chicago who show up 286 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 6: to the city council meeting pissed off that their tax 287 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 6: dollars are going to illegal migrants. I think people have 288 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 6: hit the breaking point. It's their kids, maybe in the 289 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 6: vut quality public school education. It might be a community 290 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 6: seeing crime on the rise and having prosecutors like Bragg 291 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 6: who won't go after violent time. It's these are issues 292 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 6: that transcend blind partisan loyalty. This is bigger than being 293 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 6: a Democrat to them. They care about their future. 294 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 8: A bubb all elves me ask you, and you did 295 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 8: a great job as a congressman, And I really mean it. 296 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 8: I thought you ran a great campaign. And I think 297 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 8: ten years ago, had it been the same situation with 298 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 8: not as many people having left New York at the time, 299 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 8: you would have won. 300 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Are you going to stay there for the rest of 301 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: your life? 302 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 6: I had no plans on leaving. The only four years 303 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: that I've spent outside of New York were my four 304 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: years on active duty in the army, and this has 305 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 6: been my home born and raised. And every time Tatthy 306 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 6: Hochele says, you know, Donald Trump lese. Eldon should get 307 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 6: on the bus and move to Florida, that only makes 308 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 6: me want to stay and fight more. I mean, Hockel 309 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 6: is she's calling on New Yorkers to flee, and she's 310 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 6: making the case easier for New Yorkers to leave. Where 311 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 6: you can't blame people for going and not putting New 312 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 6: York in time out, but permanently saying that they're gone. 313 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 6: I get it. A lot of folks who used to 314 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 6: come visit the state saying on I'm gonna go spend 315 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 6: my available weekend or a week in some other state, 316 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 6: not going to New York. I get it. But for me, 317 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 6: I'm still here. I'm staying on fizing, have no plans 318 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 6: to leave. 319 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 8: Okay, I respect your decision, I really do. I think 320 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 8: you're nuts, But I and you know, I understand your 321 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 8: willingness to stay and fight. 322 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: I admire it. 323 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 8: I don't think it's something at this point you can 324 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 8: win in our lifetime. I think I don't know what 325 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 8: it would take to change the place. I really don't Lee. 326 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 8: We appreciate your time, buddy, thank you. 327 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 6: You got to think Sean, all right. 328 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, Joe Biden's big election year conversion on the issue 329 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 8: of immigration is beyond laughable. I mean, how many election 330 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 8: year conversions do you get from this guy? You know, 331 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 8: all of a sudden, O, the border is secure, the 332 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 8: borders closed, I can't do anything. Republican won't help me 333 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 8: or anything. And then oh, I'm gonna do it the 334 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 8: way everybody said I could do it in the beginning, 335 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 8: because I undid all the good policies in the beginning. Anyway, Uh, 336 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 8: listen to Joey talk about this and is flip flopping 337 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 8: on immigration. 338 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 5: Come here today to do what the Republics in Congress 339 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 5: ifuse to do. Take the necessary steps to secure our border. 340 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: Within one hundred days, I'm going to send to the 341 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 5: United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over eleven 342 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 5: million undocumented people. Today, I'm announcing actions to bar migrants 343 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 5: who cross our southern border unlawfully from receiving asylum. Migrants 344 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 5: will be restricted from receiving asylum at our southern border 345 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 5: unless they seek it after entering through an established lawful process. 346 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 5: There are going to be no deportations in the first 347 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 5: one hundred days of my campaign. 348 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: Let me get that right. 349 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: You are going to freeze deportations. 350 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 5: Freeze deportations for the first hundred days, and those who 351 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: seek come to the United States legally, for example, by 352 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: making an appointment and coming to a port of entry, 353 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 5: Asylum will still be available to them, still available. But 354 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: if an individual chooses not to use our legal pathways, 355 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 5: if they choose to come without permission and against the law, 356 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 5: they'll be restricted from receiving an asylum and staying in 357 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 5: the United States. This action will help us gain control 358 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 5: of our border, restore order into the process. All those 359 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: people are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard. That's 360 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: who we are where a nation says, if you want 361 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 5: to flee and you're freeing oppression, you should come. So 362 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: today I'm moving past republic instruction and using the executive 363 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 5: authorities available to me as president to do what I 364 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 5: can on my own to address the border. This is 365 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 5: the first president of history the United States of America. 366 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 5: That's anybody seeking asylum has to do it in another country. 367 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 5: That's never happened before in America. We must face the 368 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 5: simple truth to protect America as a land that welcomes immigrants, 369 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 5: we must first secure the border and secure it now. 370 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 8: Okay, there's a guy that is been playing politics the 371 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 8: whole time and with one hundred well we're now one 372 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 8: hundred and fifty two days from election day. He did 373 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 8: it with one hundred and fift three days before election day, 374 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 8: ten million unvetted Joe Biden illegal immigrants, many from our worst, 375 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 8: most hostile enemies and regimes. 376 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: Unreal. 377 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 8: Anyway, let's get to our busy phones. Jack is in 378 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 8: New York. Hey, Jack at New York, How you doing. 379 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 8: What's going on? Forget about it. 380 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm in Buffalo, Sean, so my accent wouldn't quite be 381 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: like that, but I'm doing good today. Thank you. 382 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: Buffalo is great. It's just a little cold. 383 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: Not today it's not, but generally it is. You know, 384 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: in February and January, I kind of want to talk 385 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: about this notion that there needs to be unanimity on 386 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: a verdict for an underlying crime in the Trump case. 387 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: And I know you had spoke yesterday about the case 388 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: of Ramos versus Louisiana. That's I think that's misplaced. That 389 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: case simply said that you can't convict somebody in a 390 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: criminal trial and have a verdict comeback where ten say yeah, 391 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: in too say no. That's all that case stands for. 392 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 8: No, you're wrong, because what the judge and the jury 393 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 8: instruction said here is you can find people guilty. And 394 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 8: I don't have the exact language that I have read 395 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 8: on the air numerous days and put up on the 396 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 8: screen on TV. But instead of having the idea that well, 397 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 8: you can believe he's guilty for you can believe it 398 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 8: for one reason, and for for another reason, and four 399 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 8: for a third reason, the language in the actual Supreme 400 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 8: Court decision that's a twenty twenty decision was very clear 401 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 8: that you need unanimity on all issues. There was no 402 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 8: ambiguity in that language at all whatsoever. 403 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: I disagree with that the Court office. 404 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: You can't disagree with what the facts are. You just can't. 405 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: I disagree with what you're representing. That case a Louisiana case. 406 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: To mean this, let me give you an example, Sean. 407 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: But the Supreme Court language was clear. 408 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 8: I've read it on the air repeat and I'm telling 409 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 8: you it said unanimity on all issues. 410 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: There was no ambiguity there there. 411 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: That case was simply a tended to verdict that was 412 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: not a case like this. The Court of Appeals in 413 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: New York and the People versus Tavirus addressed this issue. 414 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: You can be charged and found guilty of falsifying business records, 415 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: but you do not need to prove the underlying crime 416 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: that you were attempting to conceal. The Court of Appeals 417 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: is very clear on that. 418 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 8: And that's we're talking about two different things. I'm talking 419 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 8: about the judges instructions. In other words, First of all, 420 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 8: I don't even think they had jurisdiction on a federal 421 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 8: election law. 422 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: That's number one. 423 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 8: This is in New York City, a misdemeanor if you're 424 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 8: talking about business records whose statute of limitations had long 425 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 8: run out. I felt the judge allowed prejudicial information during 426 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 8: the trial, which would be another grounds for appeal as well. 427 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: And this deals with, you. 428 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 8: Know, never mind the sixth Amendment rights of Donald Trump 429 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 8: that were violated, but not even telling him up until 430 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 8: the last day what crime he was even being charge with, 431 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 8: as every intelligent lawyer was pointing out as the trial 432 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 8: was ongoing, and as it relates to the two Supreme 433 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 8: Court decisions and juried instructions, a clearly mandated unanimity of 434 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 8: the jury on all issues involved. You can't break it 435 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 8: down with, well, I find them guilty for reason A, 436 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 8: B or C. But if you all agree it's guilty, 437 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 8: that's okay. That's exactly the opposite of what the decision 438 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 8: said Sean on. 439 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: The issue of the sixth Amendment to Art. To say 440 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: that the defense was only aware of the underlying crimes 441 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: a day or two before the trial started is absolutely incorrect. 442 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: Judge Marshahan ruled on a motion that the defense filed 443 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: and clearly indicated him prize the defense of what the 444 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: underlying crimes were. There is in New York State that 445 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: a federal crime. If you commit a federal crime, that 446 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: can be a justification for committing our being found guilty 447 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: of falsifying business. 448 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 8: Okay, let me you know what you've caused me to 449 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 8: go and pull out the actual decision. 450 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: Okay, let me read to you. Okay. 451 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 8: This is April twentieth, twenty twenties Supreme Court Ramos versus 452 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 8: Louisiana that the Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial 453 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 8: is incorporated against the states by the fourteenth Amendment requires 454 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 8: a unanimous jury verdict in both state and federal criminal trials. Okay, 455 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 8: So in this particular case, you know what the Supreme 456 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 8: Court was doing, you know, is addressing the very specific 457 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 8: issues and whether it defended is entitled to a new 458 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 8: trial if his convictions by a non unanimous jury were 459 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 8: final but his sentences were under review, et cetera. At 460 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 8: the time that Ramos was decided. The court held that 461 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 8: he even if a defendant sentence or resentencing is still 462 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 8: on appeal, a defendant is not entitled to a new 463 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 8: trial under Ramos once a direct review of its non 464 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 8: unanimous conviction is final. All right, That's a separate issue 465 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 8: in that particular case. But when it comes to the 466 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 8: issue of unanimity and the sixth Amendment, they were very 467 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 8: very very clear about it, and that is there has 468 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 8: to be unanimity on all issues to have a conviction. 469 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 8: And they talked about a state trial, and they talked 470 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 8: about a federal Trump and remember they upgraded what was 471 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 8: a statute of limitations past misdemeanor to even get to 472 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 8: this novel legal theory. And know, Donald Trump did not 473 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 8: know what the actual charge was, as lawyer didn't know, 474 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 8: and neither did any legal analyst on television know, or 475 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 8: writing in the Wall Street Journal or any of the 476 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 8: top newspapers know even fake news CNN commentators agreed with that. 477 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: Go and look at Judge Murshall's decision on the underlying 478 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: motions filed. It is clear as day that they were 479 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: apprized of what the underlying crimes would be submitted to 480 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: the jury. It's clear as day. 481 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: He let closing arguments. 482 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 8: He allowed the prosecution to declare with certainty that there 483 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 8: was a violation of federal election law. And he let 484 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 8: it be said dozens and dozens of time campaign finance 485 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 8: laws that had not been established at all in the 486 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 8: case by the evidence in this case. And to do 487 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 8: that was prejudicial towards the jury, on top of the instructions, 488 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 8: which I would argue very clearly went against two Supreme 489 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 8: Court decisions. But we're going around in a circle. I'm 490 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 8: not going to convince you. But the facts are very 491 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 8: clear in this case. And you could ask Greg Jarrett, 492 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 8: Alan Dershowitz, Jonathan Turley, Andy McCarthy, Mark Levin, Judge Jenny 493 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 8: ie Piro. 494 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: They all agree with me. 495 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: Yes, I also believe they're partisan. Okay, we have to agree. 496 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 8: Upon that and so are you a partisan? You obviously 497 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 8: are a partisan too, So just cut the crap about partisanship. 498 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: Just be honest about who you are. 499 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: Okay. Well, regardless of my political. 500 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 8: Stance, so your partisan, I want you to hear, say yes, 501 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 8: I'm partisan. I want a Trump convicted. 502 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: Say it. 503 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: I will not say that I am partisan. I will 504 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: say that I tend to vote democratic. Okay, Yeah, I 505 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: can look at a case objectively in telling you. 506 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 8: Well, so can Mark Levin, Judge Jennine Piro, Greg Jarrett, 507 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 8: Jonathan Turley, the law professor, Alan Dershowitz, the law professor 508 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 8: at Harvard, and Greg Jarrett, who knows the law like 509 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 8: the back of his hand. 510 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: Well, he's wrong about this, Sean. 511 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: No, they're right and you're wrong. 512 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 8: Okay, because the language that I kept putting up on 513 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 8: the screen and reading on this radio program is clear. 514 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: That case in Ramos is so distinguishable what we have here. 515 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: Okay, you're net, We're we're not going in circles. Do 516 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: you have anything else to add? 517 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: Can I move on? 518 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 8: Last thought? And I got other callers, what's your last thought? 519 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: Last thought? There is more than a federal crime that 520 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: would have been committed here. There was a New York 521 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: election statue that said you cannot interfere an election by him? 522 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 8: And why didn't they charge him with a New York 523 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 8: election statue? Because they didn't, Because you don't have to. 524 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: Okay. 525 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 8: So my question to you is, does a defendant have 526 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 8: a right to know what they're being charged with a 527 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 8: constitutional right? 528 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: They do without question? 529 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: Okay, did Donald Trump know what he was being charged with? 530 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: The answer is no, he was listen he no. The 531 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: answer is no, that's wrong. That is correct too. You're 532 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: wrong again, mister partisan. 533 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Did the indictment state the crime? No? 534 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: No, thank you. Okay. 535 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 8: Now let's go to the bookkeeping error, the underlying bookkeeping error. Now, 536 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 8: did Michael Cohen admit on the stand that he did 537 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 8: this and admitted that he told people that he did 538 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: this deal without the knowledge of Donald Trump? Did he 539 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 8: say that and admit that he told many people that 540 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 8: that is correct? 541 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Is that true? 542 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: Yes? He did, Yes, he did. 543 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 544 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 8: So if he telling all these people that it's true 545 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 8: and we know he is a convicted, admitted liar and 546 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 8: now also a thief, uh, do you think he should 547 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 8: be charged with stealing from the Trump organization? 548 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: If if they want too sure, absolutely. 549 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: If they want to. I didn't ask you. 550 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 8: If they want to, if you steal from a company 551 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 8: you're working for, should you be charged for that crime. 552 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: If the Trump organization wants I. 553 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 8: Didn't ask you. It's not about the Trump organization. He 554 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 8: admitted on the stand he stole from a company. Okay, 555 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 8: tens of thousands of dollars you would need. But if 556 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 8: you're a star witness for the prosecution, they're going to 557 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 8: overlook that, aren't they. 558 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: No, you see what a partisan you are. 559 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 8: You know you call here and you want to just 560 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 8: dismiss all of these smart legal minds. 561 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: Now. 562 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 8: Jonathan Turley's a Democrat. Alan Dershwitz is a Democrat like you. 563 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 8: And the difference between them and you is, well, they 564 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 8: know a lot more about the law number one and 565 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 8: number two. They're not partisan like you are. They're looking 566 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 8: at the law. And Dershwitz said, in sixty plus years 567 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 8: of practicing law, he's never seen a case this bad. 568 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 8: Greg Jarrett forty plus years practicing law, He's never seen 569 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 8: a case this bad. The same goes for Turley, Jonathan, 570 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 8: the case goes for Andy McCarthy, and the case goes 571 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 8: for Mark Levin, Okay, so you know what, I think 572 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 8: you need to look inward and realize that you just 573 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 8: wanted Trump convicted and you didn't give a damn how 574 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 8: they got there. 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It's about open borders. 605 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 8: It's about Joe's election year conversion. It's about a lot 606 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 8: of important issues. Peace and prosperity, energy, It's about law 607 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 8: and order and safety and security. It's about let's see 608 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 8: war on the continent of Europe, war in the Middle East. 609 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 8: It's about America's relationship with Israel. It's about a lot 610 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 8: of things. Hope you say DVR nine Eastern tonight every 611 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 8: weeknight on the Fox News Channel. We'll see you are 612 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 8: President Trump tonight. We'll have reaction here on the program tomorrow. 613 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 8: Thank you for making the show possible.