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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, welcome to move the Sticks on a Monday, DJ,

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Speaker 1: Bucky and Baldy with you. Baldy, first of all, Man,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a strong non part of

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Speaker 1: the jacket that you're working there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw this down outside the cafeteria on Friday.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm like, I got to have that jacket, man,

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Speaker 2: I gotta have it. I have been taking it off.

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic. I feel I feel like you got that

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Speaker 3: out of the Jerry Mark break collection.

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Speaker 4: This is a throwback. Man.

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Speaker 5: I'm so glad that you elected to wear dead Letterman's

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Speaker 5: jacket instead of that Duke letters jacket.

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Speaker 6: I thought that what heels on Saturday, Bucky, because I

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Speaker 6: was like, I was like, I was like, if Baldi

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Speaker 6: shows up with a duke jacket.

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Speaker 3: After they run j they.

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Speaker 5: Run a fake field goal, they run a fake field goal,

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Speaker 5: like like the field.

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Speaker 3: Goal would put them ahead. Yeah, they wanted to go

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Speaker 3: up to putting themselves in a position to win the game,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, what are we doing? Why would you

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Speaker 3: do that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 5: Just hats all man, just just a sad day, sad

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Speaker 5: tough one, baldy.

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Speaker 1: I I you know, I want to join the winning

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Speaker 1: side here. So the fact that you were a winner

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Speaker 1: this week, app State finally won a game, which was nice.

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Speaker 1: But hey, the Christian High Patriots, my son's high school team,

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Speaker 1: we're in the SAF championship game this week. We had

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Speaker 1: a big held on for a little twenty seventeen w

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Speaker 1: So we were at the Southwestern College.

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Speaker 3: Playing the Central High School out there out in the desert.

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Speaker 3: Tough kids. Tough kids are mountain desert. So yeah, good,

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Speaker 3: that's GREATO.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, fun fun?

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Speaker 3: Oh is this the first?

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Speaker 5: Is this the first championship experience in the Jeremiah High

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Speaker 5: School Inters?

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Speaker 1: So that this would be our It would be a

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Speaker 1: chance for our school to be our eleventh SF championship,

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Speaker 1: which I think is second most in San Diego County.

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Speaker 1: I was, you know, buck, I only played three years

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Speaker 1: of our football, so I only won three.

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Speaker 3: Because I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Uh we ran out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. That was why they capped it.

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Speaker 1: They capped it right there. And both my nephews, both

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Speaker 1: my nephews, I believe one one. So this could be

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Speaker 1: like like we have eleven and I think six of

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Speaker 1: them would have a Jeremiah.

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Speaker 3: Extra out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very cool. Allre that so many of these games, Baldy,

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Speaker 1: you're at a good one. Let's start with where you

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Speaker 1: were because INDYKC, this was a KC team that man,

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Speaker 1: they were teetering on the brink, you know, looking at

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Speaker 1: them saying they're not going to be in the tournament.

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Speaker 3: That's a rap. And then they had a furious comeback

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Speaker 3: over the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. They couldn't score touchdown DJ for the

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Speaker 2: first three quarters. I mean, they had three field goals.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't get an explosive play. I mean, I got

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Speaker 2: a bit that for the first time, the Colts were

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Speaker 2: able to put out sauce you know, Travarious Ward and

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Speaker 2: you know Kenny Moore, and they played I mean, they

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Speaker 2: just put a lid over the top of the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Mames had some protection, he had some time. He just

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Speaker 2: couldn't find anything down the field for the first three

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Speaker 2: the end of the third quarter and he does a

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Speaker 2: classic Mahomes and Rashi Rice kind of breaks loose from

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Speaker 2: Kenny Moore and he hits him in stride for forty five,

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Speaker 2: and that kind of ignited things for the Chiefs offense

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Speaker 2: because they were asleep, and and the Colts defense played great.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jermaine Pratt had twenty tackles, Zia Franklin pulled

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Speaker 2: the ball out of you know, Kareem Hunt's hands, got

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Speaker 2: a fumble, fumble recovery. They played great defense for three quarters.

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Speaker 2: But Mahomes just, He's just Mahomes man. He just keeps

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Speaker 2: he just keeps competing, he keeps firing, he keeps fighting away.

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Speaker 2: And they got off of life support because that's exactly

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Speaker 2: where they were that I've been a we've all been

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Speaker 2: in an Arrowhead. We know how that place rocks, we know

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Speaker 2: how the decibel. That place was a morgue for the

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Speaker 2: first three quarters in that game, and they were looking

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Speaker 4: And then that one play to Rashi Rice kind of

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Speaker 5: I thought, that's uh, but it's amazing. But it's also

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Speaker 5: the thing that the league fears, right. Everyone wants the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs to go away. It's funny because I'm looking at

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Speaker 5: it with Jacks people and you're like, oh man, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we want the Coast to go down. We don't want

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs to lose like the Coasts bring it. But

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Speaker 5: there's this fear of pat Mahomes and Kansas City, almost

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Speaker 5: like when we were teenagers or whatever, when it was

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Speaker 5: Nightmare on m Street, Right, Freddy Fruit can't kill them

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Speaker 5: like you want them out. So you're just scared that

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Speaker 5: if they get in, because they've done it so much, what.

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Speaker 3: It wants he just knows. And so that's the fear

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Speaker 5: If they mess around and get into the tournament, they'll

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Speaker 5: find a way to be the last team standing again

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Speaker 5: because we've seen this, We've seen this story, We've seen

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Speaker 5: this movie.

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Speaker 3: Over and over and over again, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And Palter, you mentioned a couple guys that I dug

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Speaker 1: in and watched from this. I was curious for she

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Speaker 1: at how they using them. It's a couple of quick screens.

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Speaker 1: It's a fly sweep, it's some bubbles, it's a broken play,

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Speaker 1: it's run after catch, and then they hit him with

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Speaker 1: they fake mesh and he ends up wheeling back out

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Speaker 1: the back door. It was just a really cool design.

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Speaker 1: But he's just kind of the he's the guy, get

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the role that he's been playing.

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Speaker 1: But still wasn't you know, it wasn't a crisp game.

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Speaker 1: They ran a bazillion plays, Like the points to play

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Speaker 1: ratio is now like.

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Speaker 4: I know, a hundred.

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Speaker 2: It was like a big twelve college game back in

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Speaker 2: the day, you know, where you both sides would put

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Speaker 2: up one hundred plays. The thing though, that you know,

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis has to be kicking themselves, like they they went.

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Speaker 4: Away from feeding Jonathan Taylor in that game.

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Speaker 2: They had four straight three and outs and they put

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Speaker 2: it in Daniel Jones's hand. He's played good, but I

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Speaker 2: just don't understand, like why they would go away and

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Speaker 4: Feed john State.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like they were doing anything special upfront, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I saw the same thing happen.

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Speaker 2: When they lost to Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: They went away from from Jonathan Taylor, and I just

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Speaker 2: I just for the life of me can't figure out

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Speaker 2: what Because I like Shames Stike and I think he's

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Speaker 2: a really good designer of offense. I just can't figure

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's the engine, and you get you

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Speaker 1: can't get that confused with the different weapons they have

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Speaker 1: and different ways they can beat it, He's still the

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Speaker 1: engine makes the whole thing go. But I thought, I

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Speaker 1: know they lost the ball game, but I didn't come

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Speaker 1: just put the ball on Jonathan Taylor's belly a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They probably win that game. That's a good football team.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, big win for the Chiefs. Let's get to uh,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the Sunday and nighter. We can kind

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Speaker 1: of work backwards here, buck Tampa and the Rams. A

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Speaker 1: game that the Rams. You know, you Baker Mayfield got

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Speaker 1: was over before he got knocked out of that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, man.

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Speaker 5: And look I'm gonna say this man right now, in

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Speaker 5: looking at all the teams, the Rams are the best

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Speaker 5: team in football. Like they can get it done in

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Speaker 5: so many different ways. There's a saying where you say, hey,

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Speaker 5: we went gritty, we being pretty. The Rams can do

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Speaker 5: it either way you want. If you want to down

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Speaker 5: about the run game and defense, they can do that.

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Speaker 5: If you want them to throw it all over the

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Speaker 5: yard and show the creativity of Sean mcvay's offensive mind,

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Speaker 5: they can do that. They just have so many different

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Speaker 5: paths to victory that they're very, very difficult to defend.

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Speaker 5: And then when it comes to their personnel, I can't

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Speaker 5: you'd be hard pressed to find a team that plays

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Speaker 5: as hard as the Rams. Like their physicality, their toughness,

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Speaker 5: their overall energy you feel when you watch them. I've

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Speaker 3: Right now, as we head down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at them, Baldi and wondering how big you

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Speaker 1: think home field advantages? I mean, that game because if

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Speaker 1: and that game and the weather. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: massive home field advantage. They get to play that game

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Speaker 2: Well, the all Eagle fans out there, you know they're

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Speaker 2: going to invade. They always do, so it's going to

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Speaker 2: be an Eagle home game. I mean, look, I mean

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Speaker 2: I was. I denounced the Week four game with the

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Speaker 2: in a fourth quarter to win the game, but I

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Speaker 2: mean the Rams were blowing.

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Speaker 4: It was a boat race in that gate.

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Speaker 2: It was twenty six to seven, and the Eagles were asleep,

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Speaker 2: and they had a good second half and made some plays.

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Speaker 2: You know, special teams, but they're just there's to say

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Speaker 2: they're complete as an under They don't have any bad games.

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Speaker 2: They don't they don't play batter, they don't go to sleep,

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Speaker 2: and Stafford's the MVP of this league. I'm just amazed

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Speaker 2: at how effective they use their tight ends. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Kobe Parkinson catches, you know, another touchdown pass. They've got

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Speaker 2: eight of the thirty touchdowns that Stafford's throne has been

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Speaker 2: to the tight ends. And they played two and three

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Speaker 2: tight ends. It's becoming a tight end league. They've got

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Speaker 2: four of them that they dress County Terence Ferguson. But

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Speaker 2: they all have a separate role, and they're all really

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Speaker 2: good at what they do, and they can play without

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Speaker 4: And you don't even notice it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't even notice Hanstein, who's a good

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Speaker 1: The other thing about him is that he's so lean

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Speaker 3: All right, body, let's let's jump in on the Baldi Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Philly Dallas here, Philly had him, had him dead to

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Speaker 5: they have a lot of respect in terms of just

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Speaker 5: how they're competing each and every week.

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Speaker 3: There's certain things that they can build on going forward.

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Speaker 2: In the brianshot, there was a stretch in his game

441
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Speaker 2: where Dak just literally took the game over.

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Speaker 4: There.

443
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Speaker 2: They're down twenty one to seven, They're down on the

444
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Speaker 2: five yard line, and Dak rolls to his right. He

445
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Speaker 2: fines Brevin Ford span like in the back of the

446
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Speaker 2: end zone. I mean it like it's the last second.

447
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 2: He's being chased, he's going out of bounds, and he

448
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,360
Speaker 2: just floats it over the head of the underneath defender.

449
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Speaker 4: Touchdown, they get a stop. They come back.

450
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Speaker 2: He hits Pickings on a forty eight yard shot where

451
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Speaker 2: he just turns Cooper Degene all the way around, and

452
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Speaker 2: then two plays later, Dak took it in and scrambled

453
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Speaker 2: and did a flip into the end zone. To tie

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Speaker 2: the game up, and literally within four and a half

455
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Speaker 2: minutes they went from down twenty one to seven to

456
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Speaker 2: tie to twenty one, and they got rubbed themselves right

457
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Speaker 2: back in the game early in that fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys got me to Dak because that's

459
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Speaker 1: what I wanted to get to. Look where he is

460
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Speaker 1: projected wise now, he just take his numbers right now

461
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Speaker 1: and project him out over the rest of the season.

462
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Speaker 1: He's on pace for forty five and forty five yards,

463
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Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns, eleven picks. He's completing sixty nine points

464
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Speaker 1: three percent of his passes. When you know, I feel

465
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Speaker 1: like people got to be reminded a little bit because

466
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Speaker 1: and maybe it's cowboy fatigue that people are sick of

467
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Speaker 1: talking about him and all that kind of stuff, but

468
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Speaker 1: he has held this team together and kept them in

469
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Speaker 1: this thing where they're still alive here in the NFC,

470
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Speaker 1: and he's playing outside of stafford at Emi Harpress. Tell

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Speaker 1: me who's playing better than Dak When he's locked in

472
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Speaker 1: and when he's on making every throw under center and

473
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Speaker 1: the gun, you're moving him your touch, throws up and down, throws,

474
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Speaker 1: vertical shots like I mean, he had one ball.

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Speaker 3: He's just the red zone pick.

476
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Speaker 1: Where he got locked in after they had a dumb

477
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Speaker 1: penalty at the one yard line and he forces the

478
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Speaker 1: ball and ends up getting picked. But overall, I thought

479
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Speaker 1: he saw the field really, really well. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing I would say buck is going through it and

481
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Speaker 1: watching all of his stuff and studying him. Was this

482
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Speaker 1: offensive line against a very very talented front across the

483
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Speaker 1: board for Philly held up quite well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the offensive line for Dallas is terrific. And look

485
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Speaker 5: at there's certain things that always hold true when it

486
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Speaker 5: comes to the Cowboys. With Cowboys are great. They have

487
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Speaker 5: a dominant offensive line. They can get it punishing you

488
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Speaker 5: running the ball. They haven't necessarily done that consistently this year,

489
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Speaker 5: but man, they always have a wall of big bodies

490
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Speaker 5: up front to protect the quarterback. Dak Prescott has been terrific.

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Speaker 5: And I would say this because we talked about this

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Speaker 5: before we clicked on the pod. George Pickens is what

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Speaker 5: we thought that he could be at his best when

494
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Speaker 5: he was coming out of school. He is terrific playing

495
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Speaker 5: on the opposite side of Ceedee Lamb. The Cowboys have

496
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Speaker 5: always been at their best when they have two legitimate

497
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Speaker 5: weapons on the outside, Michael Irvin and Alvin Harper.

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Speaker 3: However you want to do it, they do it.

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Speaker 5: And because you cannot singlely double team CD LAMB without

500
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Speaker 5: getting punished, it bounces out the defense and it opens

501
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Speaker 5: up the field for Dak Prescott. Look, I look at

502
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Speaker 5: the end, they're gonna have to make a decision on

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Speaker 5: what they do with George Pickens. But if I'm the Cowboys,

504
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Speaker 5: you better find a way to pay him so you

505
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Speaker 5: can keep him in CD in the fall, because this

506
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Speaker 5: offense is explosive.

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Speaker 2: You know, just to touch on you, we're talking about

508
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Speaker 2: DJ about the offensive line. You think about what the

509
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Speaker 2: Eagles did to the Packers and the Lions back to

510
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Speaker 2: back weeks. I mean, they just dominated both lines, whether

511
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Speaker 2: it was home or away, and they didn't do that

512
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Speaker 2: against this Dallas front.

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Speaker 4: You know.

514
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Speaker 2: I mean Tyler Booker, you know he in the second half,

515
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Speaker 2: he had a good game against Jalen Carter. But the

516
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Speaker 2: whole group, I mean, all those guys that affected the

517
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Speaker 2: game last week against Detroit that Jared Goff was still

518
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Speaker 2: talking about a week later about how physical they were

519
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Speaker 2: and how good they were, uh, and all the guys

520
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Speaker 2: up front recognizing the Eagles. They did not do that

521
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Speaker 2: to Dallas in this game. And so credit Booker and

522
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Speaker 2: you know, Tyler Smith and guy in the whole group,

523
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Speaker 2: man Cooper b b played really well in there. That

524
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Speaker 2: was that was a really well done job up front.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to wrap up both of you guys there.

526
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Speaker 1: To me, if you're getting ready and you're putting an

527
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Speaker 1: advanced scouting report for the Cowboys, to me, George Pickens

528
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Speaker 1: is the one who's getting the attention.

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Speaker 3: He's been. He's just been better than Seedee Lamb.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to try and double somebody or take

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Speaker 1: somebody away, I think I'm leaning in that direction, which

532
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Speaker 1: is crazy that you would have said that coming into

533
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Speaker 1: this season, But that's who's who's doing the damage. So

534
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Speaker 1: that's the first side of it. And then on the

535
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Speaker 1: other side of it, this felt like I picked the

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Speaker 1: Eagles to lose this game just because it kind of

537
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Speaker 1: felt like they've been look at their schedule like they've

538
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Speaker 1: been in some wars against the best teams in football,

539
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Speaker 1: and they come out on the right side of the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of those games.

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Speaker 3: I thought they would be a little bit tired, a

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Speaker 3: little fatigue. Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: You know, a little emotional, you know, after the death

544
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Speaker 1: of their teammate, coming back home all those things. So

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Speaker 1: not not totally surprised that the Dallas was able to

546
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Speaker 1: get a win.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: Last point on this game bald the AJ Brown eight

549
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Speaker 1: for a Buck ten and a touchdown. So that's a

550
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Speaker 1: good sign for the Eagles. And I was curious to

551
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Speaker 1: watch it, like, okay, you know how what they have

552
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Speaker 1: to do to get him going? What turns out you

553
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Speaker 1: can just throw hitches to him against soft coverage and

554
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Speaker 1: make people tackle your oid guy. I was talking at

555
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Speaker 1: the top about high school football, you know, watching you know,

556
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Speaker 1: high school playoffs and all that kind of stuff, and

557
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: I always tell people the goal of high school football

558
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Speaker 1: should be to make the other team tackle your best

559
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Speaker 1: player as many times as possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Buck, he's done that because he's put his he'll

561
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Speaker 3: put his athlete.

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Speaker 1: At quarterback and to say we're going to run it

563
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Speaker 1: and make him tackle, make him tackle our best.

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Speaker 3: Guy, Like this is not hard with a J. Brown.

565
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Speaker 3: You don't have to throw them ball fifty yards down

566
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Speaker 3: the field. Just get the ball in his hands and

567
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Speaker 3: make people have to tackle that big monster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, you know, DJ like it goes back when I

570
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Speaker 5: was in Green Bay, Mike Hogan was a head coach

571
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Speaker 5: and he had come from San Francisco, and on his

572
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 5: play sheet there used to be this little little column

573
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Speaker 5: right and whoever the best wide receiver was, it was

574
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Speaker 5: a get the ball to that number. So if I

575
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Speaker 5: am with the field ala Eagles, there's a get the

576
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Speaker 5: ball to number eleven, get the ball to number six,

577
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Speaker 5: And they're like five or six plays that are not

578
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Speaker 5: complex plays.

579
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Speaker 3: He's the primary read, he's the isolation route.

580
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Speaker 5: It's a hitch, a slant out, something designed to keep

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Speaker 5: him engaged. And during my time in Green Bay, Gill

582
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Speaker 5: Hasker was a wide receiver coach and his job was

583
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Speaker 5: to tap Coach Runkman on the show to every two series, Ay,

584
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Speaker 5: such and such hasn't had the ball in a couple series.

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Speaker 3: Let's remember, Let's remember to keep him engaged.

586
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Speaker 5: Because as a play call is sometimes you're so bogged

587
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Speaker 5: down with all the x's and o's and I want

588
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 5: to get to this that you forget it's about players,

589
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Speaker 5: not plays. And I think for the Eagles it's really

590
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Speaker 5: as simple to that because that a curb a lot

591
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Speaker 5: of this this grunt up stuff that we're getting into

592
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Speaker 5: the locker room. Just keep them involved in the game

593
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Speaker 5: while running what you want to run.

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Speaker 3: On offense, the.

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Speaker 2: Eagles really hurt themselves. They had fourteen penalties. They were

596
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Speaker 2: constantly backing up and after big plays. I mean, you know,

597
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Speaker 2: a twenty yard play to Goddard, you know, comes back

598
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Speaker 2: because you know they got they got.

599
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Speaker 4: An illegal shift.

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Speaker 2: I mean just the horrible penalties that were called and

601
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Speaker 2: they got to you know, and so all of a sudden,

602
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Speaker 2: instead of first and ten, you know, you're second to twenty.

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Speaker 2: And they had a hard time coming out of a

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Speaker 2: lot of those a lot of those predicaments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, it just felt like this was kind of they

607
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Speaker 1: were due to kind of have somewhat of an egg

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Speaker 1: and they jump on them twenty one nothing. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess I read this wrong. They're gonna blow the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys out of the building. But then they just kind

611
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Speaker 1: of sputtered and the Cowboys get a big win. Man,

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Speaker 1: how about that Thursday game. By the way, Holy Moly,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Cowboys. I don't see that is the baldy we ever.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys ever use the frame loser Leaf Town

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Speaker 1: Match or is that just for wrestling, but it feels

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Speaker 1: it feels like it's apropos.

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Speaker 3: For this one.

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Speaker 2: I want I like, the Chiefs just had one hundred plays.

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Speaker 2: I got to see, like, you know what kind of

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Speaker 2: fatigue they're going to have going down to Dallas. I

621
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Speaker 2: played in that you know, Thanksgiving Day game a long

622
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Speaker 2: long time back, before you know, there was Thursday Night football.

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Speaker 4: Like we we live.

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Speaker 2: To learn how to get ourselves ready to play two

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Speaker 2: games in four days.

626
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Speaker 4: We knew we had a little mini buy afterwards.

627
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Speaker 2: We could rest up, but our whole, our whole preparations,

628
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Speaker 2: we're getting ready for two games in four days. That's

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Speaker 2: what Dallas in Kannessy has got to do on short

630
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Speaker 2: weeks here after tough games. So we'll see, like who's

631
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Speaker 2: still standing there in the fourth quarter this one on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, NFL continues to honor and commemorate the

633
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Speaker 1: late John Madden with the fourth annual John Madden Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: Celebration on Thursday, November twenty seventh. Special NFL producer Madden

635
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Speaker 1: Hallmark will kick off each broadcast conveying what Thanksgiving meant

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Speaker 1: to him in his own words, So cool, how they've

637
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Speaker 1: branded these games around John Madden his wagasy there great,

638
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: give me very cool buck, Chicago Bears white hot, didn't

639
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: matter if Pittsburgh came in. No Aaron Rodgers. They just

640
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: find a way. Chicago, no one thing. It's not going

641
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: to be comfortable. They're not going to win by two touchdowns.

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00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: That's not the way they play. But they are becoming

643
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Speaker 1: quite adept at winning close ball games as they did

644
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Speaker 1: again they.

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Speaker 5: Are man because they have physicality and pezazz like Ben

646
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Speaker 5: Johnson has been able to meld those things together where

647
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 5: they are physical team to kind of getting back to

648
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 5: their roots of what the franchise has been about while

649
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Speaker 5: building around a quarterback who has a flair for the dramatic,

650
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: and Ben Johnson has been able to rein it in. Defensively,

651
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 5: they get turnovers, they're playing good ball, and I feel

652
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Speaker 5: like this was the game that they were pointing to

653
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Speaker 5: to validate who they are. They needed to have that

654
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Speaker 5: win against a physical football team that people would respect

655
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Speaker 5: to then get the respect that they want. And now

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Speaker 5: that you're looking at him, you're looking at Detroit kind

657
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Speaker 5: of having ebbs and flows offensly because Dan Campbell's having

658
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 5: to take it over. Their defense is kind of scatter

659
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: shot the Green Bay Pack is you haven't realized their potential.

660
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 5: The Bears have to feel good about their plot and

661
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: where they are. They got to go and do it

662
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 5: on the field. But they are well positioned to not

663
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 5: only make the postseason, but to maybe swipe this division

664
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: at a time where I don't know if you really

665
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: combine into the hype before the season. Man, they're playing

666
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 5: good ball and Ben Johnson has certainly proven anyone who

667
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 5: thought that it would take him a while to turn

668
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 5: this around.

669
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: He's certainly proven all those guys wrong.

670
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: Can I give you, guys just one example, by the way,

671
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: why it's you know, there's a lot of things I

672
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: like better the way we grew up in our generations

673
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: versus this new generation. But when you get a text

674
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: on the family group chat that says, can someone bring

675
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: me some toilet paper? We didn't have that when we

676
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: were growing up. Man, it was you got no toilet paper.

677
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: That's a tough walk. That's a tough walk.

678
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I won't get into one other options.

679
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: We had, but it was not a family group chat.

680
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: I can tell you that much. Somebody else is taking

681
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: care of it.

682
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: But I'm off the hook. Hey, Baldy. How about my

683
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: app state linebacker in this ball, Mark Jackson.

684
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: First NFL start, Dennis I guess he came with Dennis

685
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: Allen from New Orleans. Yeah, it was with the Saints

686
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: for two years. Never started a game in his life.

687
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: They're down, Tremaine Edmunds are down, t J. Edwards are down.

688
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: Noah sul Hippolyte got hurt in that game. So they're

689
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: playing Amen.

690
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: A modern mag Beniga he was with, Yeah, I know.

691
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 5: It was.

692
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: On the air all the time.

693
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I knew he played at Oklahoma State,

694
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: been around the league.

695
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: Done a great kid, by the way, Yeah, great, great kid.

696
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: But they those I mean DeMarco had fifteen tackles. Fifteen tackles,

697
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: and you know he shows up like there was a

698
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: huge play in the game. It's third and two and

699
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: they're throwing it to game well out there in the flat,

700
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: they got a lead blocker. He defeats the block and

701
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: he tackled for a one yard loss and the whole

702
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: defense jumped on top of them. You know, Chauncey Gardner,

703
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: Johnson's there, They're all like, you know, that was a

704
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: big play that had to pump the ball at that spot.

705
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: There's a there was a series in this game that's interesting.

706
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: The Bears with nineteen seconds ago in the first half,

707
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: they go for it and they make two plays and

708
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: they kick a field goal to cut the lead of

709
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: twenty one seventeen. They come out in the third quarter

710
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: and Caleb ball doesn't hit the ground. Five straight completions

711
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: and a touchdown on a broken, broken coverage by the

712
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: Steelers to Dj Moore, like, literally, the ball didn't hit

713
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: the ground on a sixty yard drive and I mean

714
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: Caleb just ripped one after another.

715
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 4: But the play calling, you know, when they.

716
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: Call the slow screen and all four Steelers are on

717
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: top of Caleb and he floats it over their head

718
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: and he's got the convoy out front. I mean, it

719
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: was just they overcame a first and twenty on a

720
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: stupid play by Dj Moore where it's just taunting.

721
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: It was really impressive to watch that third quarter drive.

722
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, big time, big time win for the Chicago Bears.

723
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: So they are, they're rolling schedule. It's a little tougher

724
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch here, so they'll be challenged.

725
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing how they do coming down the stretch.

726
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: All right, last game we'll get to here, Buck, and

727
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: we got to start with Shadour Cleveland.

728
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: They get a win over the Raiders.

729
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Raiders of our since fired Chip Kelly's rough coach, special

730
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: teams coaches are they got two years gone. The offensive

731
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: line played well on and gave up ten sacks. Neither

732
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: here nor there.

733
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 4: Any quarterback gets too.

734
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, yeah, that was that Gino. After

735
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: a while too, you're watching it, he's like one to

736
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: two and then just duck. He didn't even like he

737
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: wasn't even trying to do.

738
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: There was a play.

739
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: I forget who they gave the sack to, maybe Malite Collins,

740
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: and literally all four defensive linemen were buried on top

741
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: of Gino, like which one should we give it to?

742
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: I think they all got a quarter of sack.

743
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was tough tough watch. But Shadure.

744
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: Just I'll go through my notes real quick, Buck, Then

745
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: I wanna get you to take on eleven for twenty

746
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: two to nine, a touchdown and pick started off. I like,

747
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: get him a quick screen, get him in a rhythm.

748
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: A little stick route did a nice job on Boots,

749
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: had some real beautiful deep ball over the top. The

750
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: thing that I wrote down that stood out to me

751
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: to the most is the way I described it was,

752
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: he did an excellent job of playing fast to slow.

753
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: In other words, when we got to move, let's move quick.

754
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: But then before we throw, let's let's gather ourselves with

755
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: some poise and then throw the ball. He didn't get

756
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: sped up, is what I'm getting at. He was able

757
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: to slow himself down, which really helped him with his

758
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: accuracy when he was having to move off the spot

759
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: a little bit.

760
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, DJ, I think the most impressive part, like everyone

761
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: to talk about those big boy throws like the deep

762
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 5: ball and the explosive nature of the offense, but I

763
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: was more impressed with his willingness to take the checkdown because,

764
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: as you know, if you take the checkdown enough, it

765
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 5: forces the defense to react.

766
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 3: Defense.

767
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a college coach to say, every completion

768
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: impacts the defense, no matter what they say, like, hey,

769
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: make him take the checkdown. When you start completing checkdowns,

770
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: it opens up the things at the next level. And

771
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: his patience early taking that was great. I think he

772
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 5: played the game the way that I thought that they

773
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 5: would build it for him. Put him on the move,

774
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: some quicks, some play actions, and get some shots. It

775
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 5: wasn't perfect, but I will say this is an energy

776
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: that he brings to the team that is undeniable. And

777
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: I know that Kevin Stefanski has kind of downplayed everything

778
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 5: now that there is a conspiracy against him, but he's

779
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 5: trying to kind of take some of that. But I

780
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: think if you're looking at that team, you can feel

781
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: the energy of the team. When a certain quarterback is

782
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 5: in there's an energy there. And so it'll be interesting

783
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: to see what the Browns decide to do if Dylan

784
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 5: Gable is cleared from concussion protocol. Do they go back

785
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 5: to Dylan Gable as the starter?

786
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: Should do it? Like, it's an interesting discussion that they're

787
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: gonna have to have internal.

788
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know, just from that point Buck, you know

789
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: the throw to Isaiah Bond, you know, down to the

790
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: goal line. I mean, the whole bench, everybody jumped, Miles Garrett,

791
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: everybody jumped off the bench as soon as they saw.

792
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean it's fifty five yards on the run, Miles

793
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: just chasing him, Kyrie Wilson is chasing him and he

794
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: let that thing fly. Dylan Gabriel can't make that throw, Like,

795
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: it's just not going to do it the throw to.

796
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy, Like, I don't know what Judy was doing.

797
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: I mean hop skipping a jump and holding the ball

798
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: like a loaf of bread.

799
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: DJ and all my time to watching football high school level,

800
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: maybe in California they do those.

801
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: Kind of things.

802
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Herd boy, he's not a California kid.

803
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: I I haven't seen that before.

804
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: That was like not to But anyways, I'm with you, Buck.

805
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: There is a comptable uh support from this team for him,

806
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: maybe because of what he's gone through. Who knows, like,

807
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: but maybe it's just because he's likable. I don't know,

808
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: Like I'm not none of us are in the locker room,

809
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: so but you could feel it though it was. It

810
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: was permeating throughout the game when he was out there,

811
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: and uh they were they were openly cheering for him

812
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: to do well. And if I'm Kevin Stefanski regardless of Gill, like,

813
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm I got to see.

814
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: What he can do. Yeah, I want to see more. Man,

815
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: there was encouraging signs. I mean, look, the Raiders think,

816
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: but he did some really good things things we haven't

817
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: seen there. And trust me as someone who's worked in

818
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: that organization. Even though it was a long time ago.

819
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: This is an organization that's not done a ton of

820
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: winning and having somebody with with the confidence and the

821
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: belief that that is important.

822
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: Man.

823
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: You got to if you're going to turn that ship

824
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: around there with the way things have gone, you need

825
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: somebody who has that type of belief. We saw it

826
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: with Jim Harbordy went to Stanford. It was like he's

827
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: he must be crazy. He thinks he can you can't

828
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: win there. Like, yeah, I know he thinks he Kim,

829
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: you can't win there. You need somebody with that conference,

830
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: whether it's a coach, the quarterback. Yeah, he brings that book.

831
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: He certainly does, man. And I mean you could just

832
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: feel the vibe and the energy.

833
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 5: And let's be honest, like this is part of a

834
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 5: long term play when it comes to this team. I

835
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: think it was interesting though I know it cast some

836
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 5: of the buzz, but Deshaun Watson being on the sideline

837
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 5: talking to Shader kind of being around and being I

838
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: would say a bit of a mentor. I thought that

839
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 5: was interesting that they took him on the trip the

840
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: first time that he's traveled all year, and you see

841
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: the interactions and you see how they were going through

842
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 5: the surface and looking at the clips. It's an interesting

843
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: observation because they have to make a decision on the

844
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: sean too, but for shr Duur and the other quarterbacks

845
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 5: to lean to someone who has had a level of

846
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 5: success in this league, even though it hasn't looked great

847
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 5: of late. I thought it was just interesting that Deshaun

848
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 5: Watson was dead engage. I think he kind of speaks

849
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 5: to a little bit of the energy that we talked

850
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: about on the sideline.

851
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because every rookie class, you always

852
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: feel like there's a bond naturally when you come in

853
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: together and you watch Judkins and Samson and Fannin and

854
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: Schwassinger and Graham out the door, like the whole draft

855
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: classes out there are all making plays. Ah, and so

856
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting to see, like you can just

857
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: imagine the fraternity that they might feel as a group.

858
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: Guy We're going to be the guys that turn this

859
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: organization around because they all they all can play, they've

860
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: all earned the spot, and they show up every week

861
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: and now sit doors on the field, you feel like

862
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: this is this can complete that rookie class as they

863
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: try to finish this season as strong as they can.

864
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little hope, a little optimism there for the Browns,

865
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: much needed.

866
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: Very cool to see.

867
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: This has been fun, bald You always enjoy your time

868
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: on these Mondays. Man, We appreciate you, buddy. You see

869
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: you next week. You next week. There he goes Brian

870
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Balding or Buck fun weekend of games. Looking forward to

871
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: getting into some more of this stuff here over the

872
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: next couple of days as we get a little closer

873
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: to Thanksgivings.

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Speaker 3: You can't beat it, man, Thanksgiving football It's awesome now.

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Speaker 5: It brings everything back into it, right man to culminate

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Speaker 5: it like with a Thanksgiving Day smort export of games.

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Speaker 3: But at a time we talk about.

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Speaker 5: Gratitude and me and graces, and at a time we

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Speaker 5: work so hard sometimes you can get the small blessings

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Speaker 5: that everyone gets. I'm excited that this week ends up

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Speaker 5: being a reset moment for everybody to appreciate the things,

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Speaker 5: the positive things that they have going on in their

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Speaker 5: life and even some of the adversities that you face

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Speaker 5: and what comes out of facing those things. So I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I'm excited for the football week, but I'm more excited

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Speaker 5: for all the things they go around this holiday no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I hope you guys have enjoyed this one.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time right here on move sticks.