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Speaker 1: The volume.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rory, we are back with a new episode.

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Speaker 2: Today we are joined by hip hop Royalty. Mean that

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Speaker 2: in every sense of the word. Grew up listening to

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Speaker 2: these guys.

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Speaker 1: Some people just say hip hop royalty just to say

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Speaker 1: it's a little different guy. No, no, no, listen, man, it's

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Speaker 1: a little different. I ran home off.

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Speaker 2: The school bus to watch video music by VJ Ralph McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: Let you catch these guys.

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Speaker 2: See the video. I needed to see what they was wearing.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see the haircuts they had.

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Speaker 1: I was like, all the way in that mold this group,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you. So that is true.

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Speaker 1: You know you wasn't really outside like that.

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Speaker 2: But today we are joined by legendary.

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Speaker 1: We are we are. We are very honored and privileged

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Speaker 1: to have you. Man, you have no idea what this means.

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Speaker 1: You guys came up here, man, like this is incredible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is one of those moments. I'm like, damn.

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Speaker 1: Like they talk in the day lots, so like they

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Speaker 1: am I doing. They hit our grip chat like where

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Speaker 1: we talk about guess and everything, and they had the

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Speaker 1: nerve to ask, do you guys want daylight? On It's like,

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Speaker 1: why would you would you tell us what? They be

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Speaker 1: there every time that we need to be there for them.

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Speaker 2: But gentlemen, there's a pleasure first of all, rest the

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Speaker 2: piece of true boy.

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Speaker 1: Yes you got to start there, but yes you have

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Speaker 1: a new album coming.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that, but I want to

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Speaker 2: start from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, watching you guys growing up in New

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Speaker 2: York City, I'm from the Bronx and getting to see

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Speaker 2: the videos and you know, that's how we kind of understood,

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Speaker 2: you know, the fashion and when I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: we saw what y'are wearing and the things that you're saying.

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Speaker 2: How does it feel now looking back at all of

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Speaker 2: the things that y'all have accomplished in the culture, the

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Speaker 2: people that you're influence is the artists y'all have influenced.

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Speaker 1: How does it feel looking back on it? Like damn, Like.

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Speaker 2: We accomplished so much and what feels like it's not

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Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it was a long time, but

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Speaker 2: it has been a while.

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Speaker 1: But how does it look? How does it feel to

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Speaker 1: look back at that? Like damn?

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Speaker 2: We said, we started out saying we wanted to do this.

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Speaker 2: Years later, look at everything we accomplished.

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Speaker 3: First, you go, wow, where did the time go? Yeah

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Speaker 3: right right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and the other part really don't think about

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Speaker 4: it into people like yourselves say something, and then it's

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Speaker 4: that moment of reflection like damn, wow, yeah did some shit?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, it's a blessing. I'm thankful.

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Speaker 4: You know, back then had no idea that what we

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Speaker 4: are all involved with would be as big as it

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Speaker 4: is today, you know, and it's still be a part,

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Speaker 4: a significant part of the fabric. It's just God's gift,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: How how did Native tongues exactly come together in that era?

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Speaker 1: Because if I were to like paint a family tree

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Speaker 1: of all the music that I love, it would probably

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Speaker 1: be inspired by y'all, Queen and Tifa, leaders of New

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Speaker 1: School Tribe. Like that family tree, if you made it,

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Speaker 1: you could put damn near every artist that I love

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Speaker 1: under that family tree. What was in the water at

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Speaker 1: that So how did y'all even all connect Tifa being

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Speaker 1: from Jersey, Uh tribe being from Queen's leads of New

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Speaker 1: did that collection even come together?

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Speaker 3: It started from.

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Speaker 5: Us in Jungle being on the same show, we obviously

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Speaker 5: knew who they were. They had already had what jimbrowski

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Speaker 5: ow and doing what they were doing Browski.

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Speaker 5: And so by the time we had our first single

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Speaker 3: And you know, we just like this.

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Speaker 5: And in that era, it was always that easy, like yo, man,

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Speaker 5: pleasure to meet you.

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Speaker 3: We love what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: Yo, come by the studio and cats will come by,

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Speaker 5: you know, us being around Paul. That's how we met

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Speaker 5: like high school, honestly, and then you just start getting

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Speaker 3: Queens was when we met Trap.

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Speaker 5: We met we met He had Tip roll up his

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Speaker 5: little boys to Gil poss me in and young Q

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Speaker 5: Tip and we was like ay, and so.

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Speaker 3: We just.

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Speaker 1: Like, there's no social media.

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Speaker 2: This is literally you have to be in these spaces

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Speaker 2: to meet each other and each other, and then you know,

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Speaker 2: rappers in the same room, it's that weird thing where

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Speaker 2: but you don't want to say what's up first, because

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Speaker 2: it's like what if I stin my hand and he

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Speaker 2: ain't as welcome in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that has happened, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like I never met him doing over

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Speaker 4: That happening and I vowed I would never be like that, Okay,

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Speaker 4: and that has happened, you know where you you know,

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Speaker 4: you want to introduce yourself some of your your favorites,

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Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, and you kind of honored to be

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Speaker 4: a part of this fabric. It's this fraternity now, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and you get kind of played or sun or something

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But it was still different for us because, like

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Speaker 5: I guess what he's saying is like you didn't know

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Speaker 3: How is he going to? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for y'all to meet Q Tip like that, and

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Speaker 2: it's like Yo, he's like yo, I'm cute Tip.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was open and it's happy and we showed

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Speaker 5: love and it just started from there. Us hanging around

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Speaker 5: each other. It was just really that simple, us hanging

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Speaker 5: Tip and Africa. I go meet up with them at

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Speaker 3: We were just talking.

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Speaker 5: About and it was he was like, yo, like whenever

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Speaker 5: we try to do stuff together, why don't we Why

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Speaker 5: don't we call ourselves native tongues, you know? And he

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back and tell Mason Dave. Tip was like,

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Speaker 5: y'all go tell I leave Fife and Jerobi and the

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Speaker 5: same to him. He say, y'all gonna tell Sammy Be

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Speaker 5: and Mike and everyone was with it. And that was

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Speaker 5: as simple as that. We just don't hanging around each other.

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Speaker 5: Latifa gets signed to Tommy Boy. I remember my life

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Speaker 5: was like, Yo, I think y'all just I just I

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Speaker 5: think y'all signed this girl who was like, I think

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Speaker 5: she's showing me crazy doope? I was like yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: but the light I mean, Latifa was just hang out

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Speaker 5: hang at his crib, my crib, and yeah, she just

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Speaker 1: This is so crazy. It's one of those that like

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Speaker 1: when I hear like bus Big and jay Z went

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Speaker 1: to the same high schools, Like, how does that happen? Really?

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Speaker 1: How you guys? How much did Red Alert play a

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Speaker 5: At that time, it wasn't a big part at first.

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Speaker 5: It was just like Red was Mike G's uncle.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know that and didn't even know that for real.

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Speaker 4: Like when I found out Red was Mike G's uncle,

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Speaker 4: I go uptown to Mike's crib and we and the

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Speaker 4: the room like you And I'm like, what's Red doing

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Speaker 4: in your house?

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Speaker 1: What is he?

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Speaker 3: What is he doing here?

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Speaker 4: Like right in the room, you know, He's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's my uncle, Oh that's my uncle. When was you

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Speaker 4: going to let us know that. And when that happened,

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Speaker 4: that's when I felt like I really arrived in this thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm in Red Alert's crib, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: house full of records and sneakers and whatnot, and and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, and then you see Dougie Fresh come through,

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Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy, were the rumors of native

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Speaker 5: Actual thing that was real. We uh me q Tip,

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Speaker 5: Juju and Africa. We actually recorded a few things. We

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Speaker 5: was called the Fabulous Fleas and then I think.

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Speaker 4: Me Sammy b Day, Mike g Kids and another person

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Speaker 4: from my neighborhood, dam'ed Poplight. We were gonna be kids

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Speaker 4: on Xena five.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we recorded a bunch of things like actually

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Speaker 5: the song of roller skating jam named Saturdays. That was

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Speaker 5: something I did for Fabulous Fleas because Juju did something

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Speaker 5: that was amazing. Africa makes this beat, this crazy Tip

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Speaker 5: comes up with the chorus, Tip does something to do.

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Speaker 5: I said, damn, what can I do? And then I

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Speaker 5: came up with Saturdays. And so It wasn't until we

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Speaker 5: But it's like we needed something. So I just said

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Speaker 5: and do it for daylight. And it was like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: It was for fabous Fleas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean what stopped some of that music from coming

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Speaker 5: Just were it was more like it it was almost

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Speaker 1: In shape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we were all happy with the opportunity

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Speaker 4: we got to make records.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't realize.

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Speaker 4: It was going to turn into a career, right, And

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Speaker 4: we all have individual record deals before we became this collective,

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Speaker 4: so people had some really tough decisions to make. You know,

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Speaker 4: Africa had a movie deal on the table at the time.

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Speaker 4: I mean pretty much we was kind of with everything,

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Speaker 4: stop to make certain things happen, but other people had

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Speaker 4: other plans. Latifa had the TV show coming her way,

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Speaker 4: so it was things that was interrupting, you know, on

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Speaker 4: a professional level.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But honestly, in the early aspect of native tongues.

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Speaker 5: Anyone could record that.

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Speaker 5: Just and I'm being honest, like Daylight has always been

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not listening, I ain't starting no mess,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it, but because I've watched

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Speaker 2: The first album, High and Rising, classic album. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Someone wants to do a deal because mind you, like

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Speaker 5: Paul would be like, you know what, so okay, this

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Speaker 5: Jungle was on Buddy because they were just there that day,

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Speaker 3: It's like we didn't plan it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: It was just like yo, people was there get on

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Speaker 1: That's making the album.

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Speaker 5: Just every day coming to the studio, riding the train

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Speaker 3: So now on a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was a Long Island like at that time?

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Speaker 3: Beautiful by day.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy and we was like, they're further out than us,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all that and forget it rock him man, listen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well there was a lot happening. This was everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah man, because you figure you got to realize, yo,

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Speaker 3: Of them tweethmatic.

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Speaker 3: We weren't necessarily born in Long Island.

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Speaker 5: That, you know, we had our connection to our cousins

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Speaker 1: You know, where uh where was Doom at this point

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Speaker 1: That was hard, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: That was he disappeared. Yeah, he kind of disappeared.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that was that really, I had no idea.

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Speaker 5: Coming out It's dope. By the time you get to

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Speaker 1: Was what's funny with my age? I knew Doom before

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Speaker 1: And then like when I would listen to gas Face

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Speaker 5: Him had a connection because you know, I was heavily

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Speaker 1: They was like really good dudes, really good dudes.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the second album, Dayla Soul

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Speaker 2: was Dead. Now that album was the content of it

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Speaker 1: Y yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all touched on.

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Speaker 2: We y'all felt like hip hop was headed the energy

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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily get fed a whole bunch of stuff

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Speaker 1: Alignment in a sense.

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Speaker 5: But even with that being said, I've always been open

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Speaker 3: I don't got to be with it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I never felt like like I gotta be the

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Speaker 5: Now there's a lot of shit out here that's horrible,

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Speaker 5: But come on me, Like, there's a lot of shit

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Speaker 5: you can have someone on this one site that you

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Speaker 5: go and see these people and they got like two

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Speaker 5: You start listening, like yo, I never heard this person.

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Speaker 5: You realize, like, wait, they had an album out twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 5: They live in this one area of space on the

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Speaker 1: Know no about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that is really hard to get used to,

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Speaker 5: especially if you're not a person who goes and try

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that era, going into Steaks's High this

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Speaker 1: shiny suits, bad boy everything. But if you went down

442
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 1: the daylight stakes is high shit. That's how you got

443
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: to slum. That's how you got to Dillo. This how

444
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: you got to little Brother. Do you think the underground

445
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: started in ninety six with Steaks's High? Like, did that

446
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: start the quote unquote underground hip hop wave?

447
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 4: Now underground started in the eighties when it was all

448
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 4: all of it was underground, you know, when we start

449
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 4: to get notoriety and popularity as a culture and having

450
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 4: records sold in success. The split became with the industry

451
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 4: dividing us. Okay, you know, having this kind of hip

452
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 4: hop and that kind of hip hop because we came

453
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: from the era where we were all under one roof

454
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 4: and we shared the culture, we shared the audiences. If

455
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 4: two short audience didn't know us, he was on a

456
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 4: tour with him, and vice versa, you know, and whoever

457
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 4: was strong in whatever markets they would headline, you know,

458
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 4: So it was it was a strong sense of camaraderie,

459
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 4: you know, amongst the artists, especially at that time community,

460
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 4: and it changed with the competitive nature of selling records.

461
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 4: And then I think, this is my highly subjective opinion,

462
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 4: anything that's moving positive and uplifting people powers of being

463
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to stop that ship. So

464
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 4: that's when the yeah, mid nineties, that the vibe started

465
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 4: to happen. And who was conscious enough to be down

466
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 4: with that approach with it, you know what I'm saying.

467
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 5: And then even to a point where as May said,

468
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 5: our first tour in eighty nine, we were all like

469
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 5: us ll slick.

470
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: Rick pew w A two short.

471
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: I wasna brought out l or introduced it on some shot.

472
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: I was like, wait what.

473
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: L well LL had the Nitro Tour.

474
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 5: So the Nitro Tour started off as L slick Rick

475
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 5: Dayla and then Rush Management that we were all managed by,

476
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 5: they started adding all the other artists too, because for

477
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 5: certain markets ticket sales may have needed help. That alone,

478
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 5: when we got to the West coast side, they made

479
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 5: sure that too Short was on their n w A

480
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 5: NWA was just so killing. Yeah, special lad with short

481
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 5: here and there. But as it's just to Ma's point,

482
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 5: we were it was all these different artists on one tour.

483
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 3: So when you're talking about when the.

484
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 5: Nineties really was getting into play, like not even mid

485
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 5: yet or early nineties, when you're gonna have the rough

486
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 5: Riders or something like that, like they can have these

487
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 5: artists that are more in the vein of who they are,

488
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: they're starting to be on the same tour. And then

489
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 5: Daylight and common Sense and Pharamond, you know what I'm saying.

490
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 5: Where like I said, like late eighties, everyone will always yeah,

491
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 5: you know, so that had started to happen as well,

492
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 5: that kind of separate us.

493
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, each era had whack music.

494
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I know.

495
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: I think the difference today it's okay to bite. Sure,

496
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: a lot of biting going on.

497
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: That's one thing we talked about.

498
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, you have to get like basically like

499
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: exiled from the culture.

500
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: If he was caught biten.

501
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 5: Another person's living the look And I say this with

502
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 5: all respect, like, look, how legendary amazing Risen name is

503
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 5: synonymous with the culture. Yeah, he's synonymous with culture. Forget

504
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 5: wu tang Rizza is the culture. But when Rizzo first

505
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 5: came out, Cass was like, Yo, who's this nigga who

506
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 5: sounds like a Holy War was the dopest hip hop

507
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 5: one of the dopest hip hop records underground record size,

508
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 5: So he was like, Yo, this dude sounded like So you.

509
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: Was already like, was Prince rak.

510
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 5: The first time you heard Riz as Prince Rakim he

511
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 5: sounded like sir Abu, who had the Holy War record

512
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 5: that even you know, ghost brought back on the mighty

513
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 5: healthy like chorus, like that was Sabu's lyrics.

514
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: Like, so we was like, so biting or what you perceived.

515
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: As biding was a big thing, so like, and then

516
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 5: Rizza obviously easily proved that Noah, no, no, he's he's

517
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 5: official like this this is what he is, who he is.

518
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it was.

519
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: It was a big thing to try to make sure

520
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 5: that you was creative and you stayed in your lane

521
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 5: of what you did well.

522
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: Daylight, y'all was definitely you know, speaking of that so unique,

523
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: so colorful, like you know, it was like, y'all, y'all

524
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: made it cool again. I'm speaking from what I remember

525
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: to have fun. I remember, uh you know, kwame kid

526
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: and play.

527
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: Like it was always that. It was always that area

528
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: of rap.

529
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: But it's like, yo, we ain't gotta be hardcore hard

530
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: call the time, Like we could have fun, we could dance,

531
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: we could be conscious, you know, we could think about

532
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: what we're doing and things like that, and even today

533
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: that still exists. But yeah, the way y'all did it, though,

534
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: it was in a way where it was like it

535
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: didn't seem like I had you had to go too

536
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: far into that world. It was like, yo, y'all made

537
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: it so palatable to just be thought provoking, to say

538
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: some cool shit, to look cool saying it was that

539
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: always something y'all thought about. Was that just y'all being y'allself, that.

540
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: Was just in ourselves.

541
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it really was.

542
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 3: Bring surroundings, you know, play a big part of that.

543
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, and it's no different than

544
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 5: what do you even see in someone who's blessed to

545
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: be who they are and when you know this high

546
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: regard as outcasts like those news are just being who

547
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 5: they are and then you can see that like maybe

548
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: Dre and Get you know, they egged each other on

549
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: it was and it makes me think of.

550
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: How me and Dave was like.

551
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 5: They would be like, Yo, man, I'm gonna go get

552
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 5: my pops old pants. I'm gonna tape them up. I'm

553
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: gonna win with these spot builts.

554
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: I was a word.

555
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: Then I would find my father's old bell bottoms. Dave

556
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 5: his mom knew how to stitch, and Dave knew it.

557
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 5: Dave showed me how to soul. So we was just

558
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 5: egging each other on and inspiring in each other, you know.

559
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 5: And that was that went into the music. So what

560
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: we was doing together as three dudes and showing different

561
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: aspects of ourselves. But then we get around Jungle and

562
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: then they showing what they doing and then tribe like

563
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 5: we would just make inspiring each other and showing like yo,

564
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: if if Tip can do it, I know I can

565
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 5: do it. And Tip is like, Yo, if Dave can

566
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 5: do it, I know I can do it. We were

567
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: just inspiring each other, you know what I'm saying.

568
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: And even on like the branding and fashion side, and

569
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: again I'm not here to like shit on the current generation,

570
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: but like the way that you guys dressed and branded,

571
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: everything was authentic to what you guys were doing. I'm

572
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: not knocking anyone that wears Designer or anything like that.

573
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: But that is also missing in hip hop. I feel like, yeah,

574
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: how you actually dread Like listen, everybody in Queensbridge dressed

575
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: that way, because that's how when in Queensbridge dressed, it

576
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: was that they were not all buying whatever the mannequin

577
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: was at the mall, Like this is really authentic to

578
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: what we are doing at this time. That has completely gone.

579
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: It's like, I think Virtils did a great job in

580
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: merging those type of worlds, but that shit. I think

581
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Odd Future was maybe good at it, but even that

582
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: was more on the supreme side. But yeah, that that

583
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: has been lost when it comes to branding and marketing.

584
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: The authenticity of where you're from and how you dress

585
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: is not based off like high end brand shit, Like

586
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: but do you like ye'ah didn't go to Roosevelt Fields

587
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: and just fucking five.

588
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 5: Anneticut like right, and it's and like you said, it's

589
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 5: like even like our brothers on the West West side

590
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: of things, like you know, you was like, yo, look

591
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: out they dressed.

592
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Look at they're putting things together.

593
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it wasn't market it was authentic, but it

594
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: became marketing. Yeah.

595
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: I just think when the crossroads of the Internet came

596
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 5: into play.

597
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, because even we saw it just even before the Internet,

598
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 6: where if we went to Japan, Japan was paying so

599
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 6: much attention to what we were doing.

600
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.

601
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: Going to They thought, like, to do this, this is

602
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: how I have to dress yps or not. You do

603
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 5: it because this is how you feel and you want

604
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: to now contribute this to it, you know what I'm saying,

605
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: Like they thought, you know, understandably like Germany, wherever we went,

606
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 5: it's like, yo, the starter kit is to look it.

607
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: And it was like, no, not really feel it. Yeah right,

608
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean because even like you brought up

609
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: outcast with the rock and roll hoole fame, like Big

610
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Boy going up with the fur and three Stacks going

611
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: up with denim rolled up, like it.

612
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: Was the perfect they went. They went in as outcast.

613
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: That was how did y'all feel like just watching that?

614
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Like what did that mean to daylight soul? To see outcasts? Man?

615
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: Proud of them? Dude.

616
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: You know, we toured a while with Goodie Mob Us,

617
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: Goodie Mob and Fishbone.

618
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: We did this banging talk called Milky Way to us.

619
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: So I love those brothers and to even every now

620
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: and then to be around Big Boy and Dre there

621
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: was some great good dudes and everything they they got,

622
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 5: they deserve every part of it because just like us,

623
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: I don't it wasn't planning. They didn't try to do it.

624
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: They were they they were naturally like that. You know,

625
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: you have what inspires you. You even have when people

626
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: make you feel like you ain't it that inspires you

627
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: be like, yo, I'm gonna show you how it was

628
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: for them on the source of wards, like Yo, we're

629
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 5: gonna show you, like South got something to say it?

630
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: Or did they prove it? Like so them brothers and encourage.

631
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: They had to make the type of records they man, yeah, yeah,

632
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: phenomenal man.

633
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 5: But I bet for them, they didn't look as like

634
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 5: YO were about to jump out the limb on this one.

635
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: They just thought they were doing what they need to do.

636
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: I know, even when they became superstars, they would take

637
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: I think if Child's Gambino said, nobody takes risks when

638
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: they're at their peak anymore, and like that's what they

639
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: were doing when you were at the highest form. Outcast

640
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: was like, well, we're going this way even though we're

641
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: superstars at this point, like we're pop right now and

642
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: we're going to go this way. It was just incredible

643
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: to watch that moment.

644
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: Man, we talked about it, and to just see them

645
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: because I remember the first time I probably saw an

646
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Outcast video, and whenever I had, you know, people say, oh,

647
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: New York never fuck with the South. I'm like, y'all

648
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: are bugger we first saw Well, let me speak for

649
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: myself when I first saw Outcast and just the way

650
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: they was rapping, and the way they wore the jerseys

651
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: and this and that third and I'm like, Yo, this

652
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: is how they get down in Atlanta. Like it just

653
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, this is familiar, Like this is

654
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: not as far left as we might try to make

655
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: it seem like we're more alike than we are different.

656
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 5: It's definitely that, and I always do my best to

657
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: point out to people like yo, the majority of New

658
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 5: York rappers parents were from the.

659
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: South, right right.

660
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: My mother's from Waynesboro, Georgia. My father's from Rocky Mountain,

661
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 5: North Carolina. They wouldn't allow me to spend a summer

662
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 5: the Bronx.

663
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: I want to say. Unfortunately, and fortunately, your situation with

664
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy got very public, and I think it's a

665
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: little fucked up that personal business has to be put

666
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: out to the public like that. But I do think

667
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: it was definitely something that needed to be put on

668
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: front street. Of how the music business works.

669
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: Well, my my.

670
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: Sort process of it at that time period was my

671
00:32:53,560 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: fans are my team. You know, our office is the stage.

672
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: You know, being in public is pretty much our office.

673
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: So let's bring back office talk to the front of

674
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: the office.

675
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: That's how I felt.

676
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: Let's bring it to the front of the office. Let's

677
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: bring the things people don't know what happens in the

678
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 4: back office, even the people who are on the promo

679
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: team and all of that, you know, because a lot

680
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: of people don't know the intricacies of these deals, you know.

681
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: So when the negotiation was just being a struggling point

682
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: and very stern and unfair, it was time to bring

683
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: it to the front, because.

684
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: It never works out in the back.

685
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: Ye never can keep it quiet.

686
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: You know. It was another strategy to bring it to

687
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: the front by starting that boycott, you know what I mean,

688
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: because it was.

689
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: And mind you, I just want to make sure we

690
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 5: clear we didn't start a boycott. No, we was putting

691
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: them on Front Street and the fans started the because

692
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 5: we would never be on the like for Tommy Boy,

693
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: because we got other artists that we loved that was

694
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 5: on Tommy Boy and niggad paid.

695
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: We would never tell you.

696
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: To stop supporting supporting Tommy Boy artists.

697
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: And their music.

698
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 5: We wouldn't want you to not support Lati for Naughty

699
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: by Nature or whatever. Yeah, we were just saying, put

700
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 5: a pause on daylight stuff if our day, if this

701
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 5: daylight stuff drops, you don't play it until we work

702
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 5: out what we need the work.

703
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that in that whole moment, like

704
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: just how important it was that stance that y'all made.

705
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, because obviously the business

706
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: has changed so much, especially since y'all have been a.

707
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: Part of it.

708
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: How do y'all feel about it though?

709
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: Like the whole sampling and having to clear things and

710
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: DSPs and all of these things, Like how do how

711
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: do y'all feel one it hinders the art and maybe

712
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: helps the business at the same time, Like, how do

713
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: y'all feel about that whole.

714
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Stance with just sampling and clearing and things like that.

715
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 5: I'm good on doing business and we stand up for

716
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 5: all the time like, you know, if we want this

717
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: song called Ring Ring Ring, and we gotta pay for this,

718
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 5: help is on the way sample, let's pay for it

719
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: because we feel like we've made something that our fan

720
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 5: base will love, and we're we're taking a cut of.

721
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: This publishing and giving it to you, sir or whoever

722
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: we were with it.

723
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 5: We were with that, and we were the ones who

724
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 5: would decide to put four samples or three samples and things,

725
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 5: So that's on us. I have no problem with that.

726
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: I think taking care of business. To take care of business,

727
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: I must be honest, because this has happened recently, even

728
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 5: when it came to this album and Sewn seasons. And

729
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 5: I'm not saying names, Shawn see, but I don't like

730
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 5: when rappers get on it like they want a piece

731
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: of something I don't. I don't like that because we

732
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 5: all together though, like Yo, to hear premiere cut my

733
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: voice in this record, I wanted that's a thank you,

734
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 5: you know that, and to hear like us pay a

735
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 5: homage to like people came after okay before us, so

736
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: even after us, and you want to like, I think

737
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: we should just be together on that, like yo, like

738
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 5: we hip hop together, like don't be the one trying

739
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 5: to stop us or or like stick us up because

740
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 5: we put your voice in something.

741
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: I think that shit is whack. Yeah.

742
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: I saw Smokey Robinson.

743
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: He was talking about that same thing and how he

744
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: clears all sample like anybody want to sample any of

745
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: his because he just said, well one of them get

746
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: paid too. Is keeping my name in the conversation And

747
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: he said, and if guys who weren't even born when

748
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: I made this record are inspired by art that I created.

749
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: The music to live in another space.

750
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah long after I'm gone right, A lot of music

751
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: I discovered just based off hip hop samples when I

752
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: just started digging into what that sample was has changed

753
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: my whole musical brain.

754
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: I get it. You can have someone to be like, nah,

755
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 5: but this just this art that I made. So you know,

756
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 5: you could have George Harrison Beatles who will be like, yo,

757
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 5: you can't sample my stuff for this other artist. Okay,

758
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 5: we get it, you know, but like you said, there's

759
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: a lot of artists who are very open to it.

760
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: They see as lucrative, but they're just open to art

761
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: and and willing to let you do it. And so

762
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 5: if you take care of business that's what it's always was.

763
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: I mean, unfortunately, at one point that's what we got

764
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 5: into with, you know, our former former label, because they

765
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 5: treated the first album like it was a New York single.

766
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: So you had art, you know, you had record labels

767
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 5: who will put out these these singles that would sell

768
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: you know, two thousand whatever copies and cool, that's that's

769
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: that's here, you know. But they treated the album like that,

770
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 5: and this album became a hit record everywhere, you know

771
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like it was a hit album. And

772
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 5: so when you didn't clear the samples, of course someone's

773
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 5: gonna be like, hey, we're still there and or hey

774
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 5: we're the Turtles and y'all didn't clear this.

775
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: That's what happens.

776
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, responsibility the labels is that, I mean, that's

777
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: kind of my thing.

778
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 5: That's why you is it our responsibilitibility or the labels?

779
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: Well, the labels.

780
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 5: It's the labels responsibility because we were young kids and.

781
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: We didn't know nothing about about publishing and all that.

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Speaker 1: More or less. We were talking about it being Tommy

827
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: Boy's responsibility to clear those samples. And you know, you

828
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: guys were young and just making music at that time.

829
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: He knew about getting clearances.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, the label, all the administration falls on the label. Yeah,

831
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 4: that's part of their job. We baked the cake, you

832
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Speaker 1: Coming off the Tommy Boy. Dude, how did this and

834
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: tire Mass Appeal year come together? Like, I know there's

835
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: no Grammys for labels, but there needs to be some

836
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: type of award that goes to Mass Appeal for everything

837
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: that they have pulled off this year, not only just

838
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: pulling it off, pulling it off with integrity, with grace,

839
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: with being extra delicate, even with the mob deep stuff,

840
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: like the music actually hits as well. Of course we

841
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: see that list and it's like, of course I want

842
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: to hear from these guys. But when the music hits

843
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: as well, I think that's a different type of stat

844
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: Did Peter Nas and like, how did this whole thing

845
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: come together when they had this list? Peter like, was

846
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: it one big group? Chet? Well, how did this happen?

847
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 5: Peter and Nas have been trying to get us the

848
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: rock with them for a minute. Honestly, when we did

849
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: the album and the Anonymous Nobody, there was a point where.

850
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: It could have been with them.

851
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 5: Quite honestly, Cobolt, who we distributed it through, they just

852
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 5: came in a kind of you know, a better deal.

853
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: He's like, Yo, we're just gonna go this route. So

854
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 5: Peter had been always trying to get something rocking with us.

855
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: We were supposed didn't do this premium. So on the

856
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: Rocks record where it in Daylight, Pete rocking premiere. So

857
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: that was signed and everything with the deal we was

858
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 5: doing Massipilla just but then that came about right when

859
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 5: we got into this battle with Tommy Boy. Dave health

860
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 5: was a little crazy and in times when we would

861
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: try to hook up link up, you know, maybe Pete

862
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 5: wasn't available. He's on the DJ gig sam a premiere.

863
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 5: So I'm just just basically never happened. Especially once Dave died.

864
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 5: It was like that was out the water. Pete holler

865
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 5: at us early this year like, yo, man, we're doing

866
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: this Legends thing. Would love to have y'all be a

867
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: part part of it. I was like, Yo, if Mace

868
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 5: with it, I'm with you. I would love to do it.

869
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 5: In my mind, I'm willing to get some music out

870
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 5: and speak my mind because I just got some things

871
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 5: I would like to get out any So right from

872
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 5: there we were just off and running, and we had

873
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: a few things in the can from what Pete that produced,

874
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 5: some stuff from what Prem had got done, but there

875
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: was a bunch of stuff as well that Dave was

876
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 5: on from other producers, like we had to Jake one joint.

877
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 5: We had a few super Dave West joints with Dave

878
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 5: voice on it. So we was like yo, and not

879
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: even thought about it, like well, yo, do I take

880
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 5: some of this stuff and give it to Prem to do?

881
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: And Prem even shut that down. Pream was like, nah,

882
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: this Dave West joint is I'm not touching that.

883
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: This is done. This is done.

884
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: So that's when the album is opened up to like, Okay,

885
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 5: it won't be a Premium so on the Rocks record,

886
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 5: it'll just be a conventional daylight album with different producers,

887
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. And we just went off and running

888
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 5: in that direction.

889
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: And I'm glad it has prem and Pete Rock's presence,

890
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: though in the wrong way. Yeah, because it actually makes

891
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 4: up the void of Premium SOULO the Yeah yeah.

892
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. How many joints did Preme do and how many

893
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: did did he do?

894
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 5: Pete with Dave on it were you're talking about on

895
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 5: this album. Yeah, Pete got four, prem got three. Yeah,

896
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 5: and then like then we got some stuff was produced

897
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 5: by us.

898
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: You got not to who came in and did something.

899
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 5: Jake one, as I said, super Dave West West and

900
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: that's really our people's are Eric, he's.

901
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: Down with Little Dragon. He got one on there with

902
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: his man Josh, one of my favorite joints on there,

903
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: that Little Well. When they sent us the link, I

904
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: was like, okay, let me see what the Little Dragon

905
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: that's probably in my top three. The entire product that

906
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Little Dragon record is a saying, you know, man, unexpected.

907
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it's something for everyone that I feel man like,

908
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 5: it's something for you to really be cause you know,

909
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 5: we've always tried to do music like that and and

910
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: I'm glad we were able to ACCOMPLI is balanced with

911
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 5: our albums, Like it wasn't about like everything I'd be sad, everything,

912
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 5: I'd be angry everything, I'd be happy. We tried to

913
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 5: like always throw some jewels, like if you had a

914
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 5: Saturday's you know, no, I'm sorry if you had to

915
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 5: meet myself and I you had a ghetto thing like,

916
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 5: we always tried to do that and we got better

917
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: and better at it. So yeah, this album, man, I'm

918
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 5: so proud of it.

919
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: Man.

920
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very, very proud of this album.

921
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm definitely.

922
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: I mean it makes sense everything with the Massive Pill

923
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: has been doing this shit. You know, we heard the

924
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: Mob Joint, the Big l Joint, and then you know

925
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: when they sent us the day Live Project, it's as well, Yes, Slick,

926
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Rory, We're like, yo, what the fuck

927
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: is Massive Pill doing? Because you know, we talk about

928
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: the void and hip hop and I was, no, you know,

929
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: the originality is kind of lacking. And then you know

930
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: now coming out there's no you know, hip hop rap

931
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: songs in the top forty for the first time in

932
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: thirty something years, which essentially means the labels are not

933
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: putting money behind the songs and things like that. Are

934
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: they wrong for that? I mean it was the return

935
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: on the investment. A lot of these artists are not

936
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: really making the money back for these labels. You may

937
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: have a big song, but it's like not selling no tickets.

938
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to come see you. Like a lot of

939
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: artists that we've seen have huge followings and they announce

940
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: a tour, then they announce that the tour is canceled.

941
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: You know, we know why. You know what I mean,

942
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: you can get back. It's like, yo, bro, we're not

943
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: selling no seats. But to hear Daylight in twenty twenty

944
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: five in WHI y'all did with this project, with this album,

945
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: I think it speaks to just a different attention to

946
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: detail that I think comes from the era that y'all

947
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: came from, when it came to know the art of

948
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: hip hop and making sure that certain things always remain,

949
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: like we have to have this, we have to pay

950
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: attention to that. Where now it's like, you know, these

951
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: guys get a song, they make a song, and it's like, oh,

952
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: it's streaming all of this, but it's like, yeah, you

953
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: don't feel that record. And I talked to it a lot.

954
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because of the way we

955
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: consume music. I love the fact that I can open

956
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: my phone and listen to any song I want to,

957
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: but I also recognize the detachment in it, Like if

958
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: somebody if I'm listening to the day Live album and

959
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm playing it for my phone, and I got it

960
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: on the speakers in the house. Somebody called my phone

961
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: and interrupt It interrupts the whole thing, and I might

962
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: not go back to the album today, yeah, because that

963
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: phone call might be like, Yo, meet me down Stadio.

964
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: Go Now, I'm not even going back to that way

965
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: as before I went to the Whiz to buy the album, exactly,

966
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: I go home, I bust it open. I'm looking at

967
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: the artwork, the credits, I'm reading to thank you and

968
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: who produced, and while the music by the record is playing.

969
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: So it's a different attachment that I had to some

970
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: of my favorite projects.

971
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: Versus now I'm like, damn, I love that album.

972
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: But then I look at Rory and I'm like, yo,

973
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: I haven't played that album, and after the first one

974
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: came out, I haven't played it.

975
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: Love it, but it's no attachment to it. The DJ

976
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: Drama Young GZ record. I love that record.

977
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I played it and played it like you even said,

978
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 5: like the next thing, you.

979
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 3: Know, like, oh wow, I haven't played that last two weeks.

980
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 5: Like it just like the attachment, yeah, because it's almost

981
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 5: like you said, it's like it's almost like if if

982
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: we walk around with.

983
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: It's like, it's the streaming.

984
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 5: Service that I got that gives me everything, apposed that

985
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: it's the album, the CD I bought and.

986
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 3: I purchased, that's giving me something.

987
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: You you have infinity in your pocket, let alone just

988
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: having one CD for that day, like this is one

989
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: stay exactly how intentional with the features on this has

990
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: it always been for us? I mean you guys haven't

991
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: been super feature heavy in your careers.

992
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 5: We we we got a little crazy with it when

993
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 5: we did Most Thump.

994
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 4: But even then, the features are more like instruments, Yeah

995
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: to the record you you you hear these people as instruments. Yeah,

996
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: that's missing to the song. Yeah, like Redman to Ooh,

997
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: it just made sense, you know what I mean. So

998
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: when we hear it like that, we try to reach out,

999
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 4: and it'll also be a pecking order because it's like, okay,

1000
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: you got your wish less Yeah, but then okay, who

1001
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 4: would be second or third if these people don't work out?

1002
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1003
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 5: Now that's what our question because like like say, like

1004
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 5: that's a great example of even like Dave, like say,

1005
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: on the last album and it's nobody and we had

1006
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 5: the Houdini record, and Dave was like, yo, yo mars

1007
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 5: like I just for some reason, I just hit two

1008
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 5: Chains on this record work. He's like yeah, man, like

1009
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 5: I think like him doing a chorus. And so I said, Yo,

1010
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 5: let's reach out. And then we reached out and he's like, yo,

1011
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 5: I don't want to do the course, I want to rhyme.

1012
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, so yeah, that's what it is.

1013
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: It's always that intention of like not just making a

1014
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 5: record with Common or making a record with two Chains,

1015
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: because I just say I just did it it like

1016
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 5: it feels like it needs that person, and then we

1017
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 5: didn't reach out, and then for them to want to

1018
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 5: be a part it organically all works together correct.

1019
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 4: And another part of it too, when it came to

1020
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: two Chain, it was like the fans is bugging, he don't.

1021
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I don't know

1022
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: what you think you hear. I think it's a part

1023
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: for us to let you know.

1024
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know the crazy thing is like and

1025
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 5: then even in saying that, like and cats would be

1026
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: like word daylight and when they hurt the record, it's like, Okay.

1027
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: We've got that conversation with Royce. We've had that conversation

1028
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: with elect of like two chains is respected in both sides,

1029
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: like you're like, people don't know he can really really

1030
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: like can really rap like exactly yeah with killing Mike

1031
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: and forgive me because the link they sent us has

1032
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: dot dot dot. I don't know the full title. But

1033
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: the Mama record with Killing Mike? Yeah, yeah, a quick

1034
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: sixteen for Mama. Yeah, how how did that come together?

1035
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: With just that that idea? Was that a conversation in

1036
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: the studio prior.

1037
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 3: To not send them because that was produced by Knots.

1038
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, send them a bunch of legends crazy, But always

1039
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 5: I always try to take time and you hear something

1040
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 5: that was amazing about always try to be like, yo,

1041
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 5: let me listen to it. When the following day, and

1042
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden in the list of stuff

1043
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: that you think is crazy, like all right, all right, okay,

1044
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 5: I can push this one to the side. And I

1045
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 5: just also start looking at what I have already and

1046
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 5: what I need so not like these three not records

1047
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 5: that sound like I can write these crazy rhymes to,

1048
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: but what's missing from the album and that record where

1049
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: the voice is saying what she's saying, But Mama told

1050
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 5: me you gotta, you know, one thing, you gotta hustle

1051
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 5: for it. And I was like, Yo, this could be

1052
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: a great record where I talk about my mother who

1053
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 5: ain't here, and maybe get on with another MC who

1054
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: mother wasn't here, So it had to be.

1055
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: An MC who Mom's was gone.

1056
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 5: With Transition and the first I mean right off the bat,

1057
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 5: I was like, it was either going to be kill

1058
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: a Mic, and I was like bun b And I

1059
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 5: wasn't sure if you know, as moms passed, but I

1060
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 5: was like, I just hear bun or kill a Mike.

1061
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: I just heard, and then I was like, yo, it

1062
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: should be Mike. And then the crazy thing is NAS.

1063
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 5: He was already doing this thing with all the albums

1064
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 5: on the Legends joints, like he want the rhyme on

1065
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 5: every album, which was dope to do. So Sean was

1066
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 5: like yo, Shawn. She was like, Yo, we need this

1067
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: joint for NAS to get on. And then he was like, Yo,

1068
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 5: why don't you try this one. I was like really,

1069
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 5: and he was like, yeah, you know, Nas, he'd been

1070
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 5: rocking on like something smooth here. He did something for

1071
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 5: Mob on that era. I said, all right, let's try it.

1072
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 5: But I just always thought it should be killing Mike.

1073
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 5: We gave it to Nas. Nas does something. I didn't

1074
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 5: hear it yet, but he needed to then change something,

1075
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 5: and so then days become days become weeks. I still

1076
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 5: haven't heard what he's done. I'm like, so, yo, when

1077
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hear what you did, what you did to it?

1078
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 5: And then then Shawn See comes back like yo, I

1079
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 5: think I think.

1080
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: Nas want a rhyme rhyme. I was like, all right,

1081
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: you know, let's get him something else. I'll say, So,

1082
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: let's go back to my idea.

1083
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 5: Let's get this put killer mic on this end, forget

1084
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 5: it like Ray Mike Floyded.

1085
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Then how they run it back end up with Nas

1086
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: at that point because I was I was debating with

1087
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: some people today. It's between the Big L single, his

1088
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: verse about p on the Mob Deep one. I think

1089
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: his verse on the Daylight album might be number one

1090
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: out of this whole yo, this whole mass appeal. Like

1091
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: I even texted uh Leon Thomas and I said, Yo,

1092
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, Nas just name dropped you on a verse. Crazy.

1093
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: That's like, Yo, that's the craziest text I've ever got.

1094
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the crazy thing though we already had

1095
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 5: a good amount of records, you know, compile for this

1096
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 5: for this album. Running Back wasn't even a part of it.

1097
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 5: Black Thought is in the studio, Shawn Ce's in the studio,

1098
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 5: some of other people in the studio. I just happened

1099
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 5: to be on my computer doing something and my computers

1100
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 5: hooked up to the speaker and I just played it

1101
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: because this was something that you know, me and Dave

1102
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 5: West had going on. Thought is on his phone. He

1103
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 5: looks up immediately like, yo, like what's that?

1104
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: Though, I was like, oh, which is the famous rapper?

1105
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm out what's that?

1106
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, nah, this is something that

1107
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 7: Shawn's like, nah, you hold it out. I was like no,

1108
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 7: I was like what's that. I'm like, all right, it's

1109
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 7: this record. He said, nah, that gotta go on the album.

1110
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 7: Like I was like, all right, well, okay, we'll put

1111
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 7: this on the album. So then that's like a few

1112
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 7: days that passed. I was like, yo, maybe I was

1113
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 7: like to Shawn's like, yo, maybe this should be the

1114
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 7: one we give the NAS.

1115
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: So Black Thought an r the NAS record.

1116
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, Joe was like, I gotta go on the record,

1117
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 8: and like so when I gave it to Sean to

1118
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 8: give to Nas, probably by the day, like that day

1119
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: he got it, probably like later that night.

1120
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 5: I get this call like about one in the morning

1121
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 5: and I'm like, Yo, who the hell calling my phone?

1122
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 5: And I look up and it's Sean. Sharn's like, Yo,

1123
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 5: I'm texting you like Nass needs you to call him

1124
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: right now. I'm like, he got two verses for what

1125
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 5: for the runner? He got two verses.

1126
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 3: And he's like, Yo, I need you to hear this.

1127
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: So like I said, Yo, send me to join, Like yo,

1128
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 5: I mean, and the verse that made it is the

1129
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 5: first verse he played that verse.

1130
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: And the stuff, the stuff he's addressing on there is

1131
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: it's super important. Everything I love that he shouted out.

1132
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: Do I love Like I loved everything that he shouted

1133
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: out too, Like he made points on there that that's

1134
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: up there be that at the end of the year,

1135
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: that one might be verse of the year. It's gonna

1136
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: be talking like it's definitely definitely one of those he

1137
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: definitely bodies NAS has been in. I mean it's Nas

1138
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, but he's been in a different type of

1139
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: shape the ship every time he shows up on these projects.

1140
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, it should be Yeah, that's what I should.

1141
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: Be again a different error, like when whenever y'all hear me,

1142
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure that it's always a one because again,

1143
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to give none of these

1144
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: new catch room to be like, yeah, he falling off,

1145
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: and even if he is, it's like okay, thirty something

1146
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: years later, like I bet you know what I mean.

1147
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: But Cavin in the Sky, how did y'all come up

1148
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: with the with the name? Beautiful title? By the way,

1149
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: thank you man.

1150
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 5: Just watching TV one day, I'm on Prime Video trying

1151
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 5: to find a movie, and this movie Cavin and Scott

1152
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 5: comes up. I had never heard of the movie didn't

1153
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 5: nor was a play as well.

1154
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: See the names I see Lina Horns in this movie.

1155
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 5: But as as soon as I saw the title, I

1156
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 5: was like, wow, this is a dope title for the album.

1157
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: Because of this immediately made me think of Dave immediately

1158
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 5: whatever the reason, like before you even know the reason,

1159
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 5: like you're already thinking it.

1160
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, is this one?

1161
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 5: And I'd already had a title written down that I

1162
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 5: thought like, I'm going to maybe think about it and

1163
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 5: maybe share it with Mace. And it was something like

1164
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 5: after the finish line, then subtitle like.

1165
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: Where do you Go? I had that.

1166
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: I'm like that, well it was cool.

1167
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: But then me and Sean have been texting me back

1168
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 5: and forth that day. So when I just came on

1169
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 5: to the title of Cavin Scott, I called it and like, Yo,

1170
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 5: what do you think of Cavin and Scott?

1171
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: And he was like what for the title?

1172
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, that's dope, that's it. Morse, that's it.

1173
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, I got the mace and

1174
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 5: I told him the one title that the the you know,

1175
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 5: the after the finish line.

1176
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: He said, no, I see where you're going with that.

1177
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 5: But he's like, yo, Cabin in the sky, Like it

1178
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 5: just it feels right, it like it feels like something

1179
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 5: you want to say for an album title. And so

1180
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, man, let me let me think

1181
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: about this, let me tell Mace.

1182
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: But like on my computer from.

1183
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 5: That point before, at that point, my playlist had just

1184
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 5: said they lost so new album twenty twenty five, and

1185
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 5: then I was just trying to put the new configuration

1186
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 5: of the playlist onto my phone and for some reason,

1187
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 5: it just wasn't connected, wouldn't drop into my phone, and

1188
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 5: something in me was like, yo, change it the Cabin

1189
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 5: in the sky and once I did that, and.

1190
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: When it was my phone and I was like, that's it.

1191
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: This is the title, this is it.

1192
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: What's what's What's Dave's legacy to you on a personal level,

1193
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: not in music, just just who he.

1194
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 5: Was, my brother, my mentor, He was my judge. He

1195
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 5: was a judgy ass ball. He was my judge of

1196
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: Jural Yo, I mean that man. I love that dude.

1197
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 5: Like I did a lot of things to hope, Like

1198
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 5: when Dave said he loved something I did, like it

1199
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: meant a lot to me because like he was my

1200
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 5: big brother.

1201
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is my big brother.

1202
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 5: And his approval yeah a lot, you know, because Dave

1203
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 5: was picky, very picky.

1204
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 3: Hated tomorrow should be like, Yo, you don't like me?

1205
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: Man?

1206
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Is it me? He doesn't everybody you know what I'm saying,

1207
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: They you know, give a about this industry.

1208
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: I would challenge him.

1209
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 4: I would really challenge him on coming out of his

1210
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 4: comfort zone because he falls into a cover. He would

1211
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: fall into a comfort zone. And like, especially with working

1212
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 4: with Prem, it was like, nah, you got prem like

1213
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 4: Disney gilest me. We gotta go to the studio and

1214
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: work with this dude, you gotta cook the way he cooked.

1215
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? You know we're not sending

1216
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 4: the meal you're got at the dinner table. You know

1217
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Want to be cooked?

1218
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah it tasted.

1219
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 5: Say nah, He'll just move another kitchen and cooking up

1220
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 5: before we let you go.

1221
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: I have a few things I want to touch on,

1222
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: one being the Chappelle Show was was a huge part

1223
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: of my teenage years that that definitely shaped me in

1224
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: a certain way culturally, Like Chappelle Show is it for

1225
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: me at the time? What was that like with that

1226
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: live performance in real time? Like did you guys know

1227
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: how impactful that first season? I know Dave was your

1228
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: man before that, and like, but if you go through

1229
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: the first season of performances, it's fucking insane, Like that

1230
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: could be your greatest hits album based off what he

1231
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: did with that, Like did y'all know how culturally impactful

1232
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: that what's going to be at the time? Like was

1233
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: that just a Hey, we get on the tour bus,

1234
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: let's just say something.

1235
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it was like we had an idea, like, yo,

1236
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 5: just try it on the tour bus whatever, Like we

1237
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 5: were just rocking with our peoples because it was still

1238
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 5: that same camaraderie we had when we was doing albums earlier,

1239
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 5: like Yo, I'm rocking with this person because he's our

1240
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 5: people's and yes, just makes something the same way like Yo, Dave,

1241
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 5: we know you, like you got to show cool, like

1242
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 5: you need us to perform.

1243
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: And it was it was more or less following Dave's lead,

1244
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 3: just what his vision was.

1245
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. How important is Yummy to Deyla? Yeah, I mean

1246
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: it's like sister like baby, you know what I mean.

1247
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe fifteen like she she loves by

1248
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: the way, Shocking.

1249
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 4: Connor is her godmother, know what I mean? So her

1250
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: DNA is solidified, you know.

1251
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, uh.

1252
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 4: She makes her best music with us. I feel like that,

1253
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 4: like this's just a chemistry there, you know, with us

1254
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: and her that I when I listened to Yummy outside

1255
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: of us, it's not the same.

1256
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got she is one of she is crazy. Yeah,

1257
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean in the.

1258
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 4: Past, not the same, you know what I mean. When

1259
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: she was with the Rain, it was cool, but it's

1260
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: not the same as when it was with us, you know,

1261
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 4: And I would always lean on her, like Yo, songwriting,

1262
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: you got a chemistry with pass you got a chemistry

1263
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: with Dave West, like like it's something else.

1264
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: She was like.

1265
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: So much.

1266
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: One thing I love man. You know she's open, you know,

1267
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 4: to criticism, you know, and I'm always coming from a

1268
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 4: good place with it. I want to see everybody win.

1269
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: Who is some of the artists that y'all sit back,

1270
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: you know, in your downtime and be like, I like

1271
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: these guys in terms of the like being new or

1272
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 2: anybody today Yeah to day.

1273
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 4: I mean Anderson Pa he not new, but he was

1274
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: one of my favorites man.

1275
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like super.

1276
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: He definitely has some of y'all DNA. And for sure.

1277
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy is when I met him a

1278
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 4: couple of years back at the Blue Note, and he

1279
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: wasn't quite educated on daylight. Really, he was more educated

1280
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 4: on tribe. Yeah, yeah, I remember, and I can understand

1281
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: that because.

1282
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: This tribe, that's that's real.

1283
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,479
Speaker 4: But when he heard our stuff, he was like yo, man,

1284
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 4: And I was overwhelmed because he's like.

1285
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: Mazio, your voice, man, I want to produce your voice.

1286
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm down. I'm down for that.

1287
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: I have I have some questions from some amazing mcs.

1288
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: Jay Electronica wanted to ask you guys, how and when

1289
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: did you realize that you were this a live performances.

1290
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: It took a while. When we really sucked, It took

1291
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: him innute.

1292
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1293
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 5: We had this amazing album that was very colorful, vivid,

1294
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 5: and we we didn't.

1295
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: Know how to bring that to a live show. You know.

1296
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 5: We we had to figure it out, and we had

1297
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: great teachers who took the time to let us know

1298
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 5: whether it was Chuck ll yeah all them, Yeah they Yo, man,

1299
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 5: do this, make sure you're doing that. Make sure if

1300
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 5: Dave goes to this end of the stage post, this

1301
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 5: is Dougie telling me, like, yo, you go to that,

1302
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 5: so have balance. Let the crowd see it look uniformed.

1303
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 5: So we it was just trying.

1304
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 4: Ran Foster, who's like to spend a sound engineer for everyone.

1305
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 3: Fellas stopped coffing the night.

1306
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 5: You learn because, like I said, like from this first

1307
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 5: tour we went on in eighty nine with all the

1308
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 5: people we mentioned, the ls and all that, and then

1309
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 5: we go right after that to this fun Young Cannibals

1310
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 5: tour and throughout the UK and we're in festivals. So

1311
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 5: that's what's the biggest thing for us. We're this hip

1312
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 5: hop group who have all these listeners outside of hip hop,

1313
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 5: like they could feel like yo, like outside of hip hop,

1314
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 5: outside of daylight, I don't really fuck with hip hop.

1315
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1316
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 5: So we have to learn how to perform for that crowd.

1317
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 5: We have to learn how to perform at these festival crowds,

1318
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 5: which is a whole different crowd because it'll be someone

1319
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 5: there early waiting for Lenny Kraviz to.

1320
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: Get but you in the way.

1321
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: How do you approach those stuff?

1322
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: You have to learn how to be like, all right,

1323
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: and you will.

1324
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 5: I would be like, I'm gonna make him smile before

1325
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 5: it's over. I was learning how to get to them

1326
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 5: like I got you, and yeah, you'll bring people on

1327
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 5: stage or you know, you just learned these ways and

1328
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 5: of just trying to communicate to the crowd and have

1329
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 5: them be a part of it.

1330
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 3: And we just kept getting better and better at it.

1331
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 4: And it's like it's introducing yourself to a new friend. Yeah,

1332
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 4: you know, you can't expect them to be all warm

1333
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 4: and fuzzy in the beginning. People got to warm up

1334
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 4: to each other. So it takes some time, and you

1335
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 4: gotta be humbler your approach. You know.

1336
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: This is from Fante from Little Brother oh Man. Fante asked,

1337
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: ask about the responsibility of ownership. Everybody says own your masters,

1338
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: but very could, very few could pull off the campaign

1339
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: that you guys have been doing with your catalog.

1340
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 4: What's the importance of Well, it's intellectual property, man, It's

1341
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 4: it's like owning the house, so you know, it's something

1342
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 4: that actually can feed your family for years to come.

1343
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 4: You know, once you learn about the business of intellectual property,

1344
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 4: you need to know that you need to own at

1345
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: least a portion of it, you know what I mean.

1346
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 4: You know, granted, in the world of doing business, when

1347
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 4: people are offering their money up for your dream, of

1348
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 4: course they want a piece of the pie, you know,

1349
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 4: so you have to be very conscious of what you're

1350
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 4: willing to give up or not willing to give up.

1351
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: But owning your master's and your publishing is very very important.

1352
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah yeah. Rapper Big Pool, also from Little Brother.

1353
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: I thought it had an amazing question, he said, ask them,

1354
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: how does the group survive over three decades when no separation,

1355
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: no public fallouts, especially in an industry that was designed

1356
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: for groups to break up. In the early two thousand,

1357
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: choosing to only focus on the stars because groups early

1358
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: to that, they they just maned a lot. Yeah, which

1359
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: I thought Pooh asked an incredible question. Amazing.

1360
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a common goal to be a group. Yeah,

1361
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: you know, it's been God's blessing to stay a group.

1362
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 4: You know. It shows a testament of our brotherhood because

1363
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 4: we've definitely been through some things, you know, but the

1364
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: importance is how you come out the other side. Yeah,

1365
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 4: and uh, coming out the other side chows shows the

1366
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: true testament of your brotherhood, you know. And you don't

1367
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 4: realize that brotherhood until those moments actually happened, you know.

1368
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: And we had some strenuous moments, but we always resort

1369
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 4: back to us three and we took our problems home.

1370
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 4: We brothers. We were truly family fight. Yeah, you know

1371
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 4: what I mean, family fight. I got to make a

1372
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 4: dish record. It was like, and then after you cut

1373
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 4: you feel bad. You do feel bad, you know what

1374
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 4: mind you?

1375
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 5: I didn't like if I'm on a tour bus and

1376
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 5: I wanted warm, and these two motherfuckers need to be really.

1377
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 3: Cold, you know what I'm saying.

1378
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: Camps out in the back of the bucket, take the

1379
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: whole ship over and smoke.

1380
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 4: Weed, you know, and stop in the next bruck, stop

1381
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: an extra blanket.

1382
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1383
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy some fragrances, put some towel in the door.

1384
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: And make it worse, make it worse.

1385
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 3: Compromise, That's what it was.

1386
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 5: Compromise, as he said, just we always saw ourselves as

1387
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 5: a group. No one could come and be like, yo,

1388
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 5: pass you should do this solo record, all right whatever?

1389
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 5: Like we we are a group. We're brothers, man, love

1390
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 5: each other.

1391
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: Uh. In the event you guys grew up in this era,

1392
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: who would have tweeted y'all problems first?

1393
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 5: Yeah like that. I don't want no nigga know what

1394
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 5: I'm doing, Ye damn sure wouldn't be me. Yeah, And

1395
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to say like he would do, but

1396
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 5: if I went to put it in order, it was

1397
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 5: probably you, probably then me and and Dave. Dave is

1398
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 5: that Dave was in the trade, never he was financtic. Yeah,

1399
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 5: Dave will give us day ship.

1400
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, this this was I didn't want to say

1401
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: like buggles this this This was an honor to have y'all.

1402
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: I feel so privileged to have y'all come.

1403
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: To our studio and yo're more man like, literally like

1404
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: I used to run home because you can't. I can't

1405
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: miss Daylight on video. You miss it, that's it. You

1406
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: gotta wait till you know what I'm saying. So it's like,

1407
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 2: literally though I remember those days, like I got to

1408
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: gutch the day live video. I have y'all here in

1409
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: the studio today.

1410
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: Here like fucking legend.

1411
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: It's just a lot of you know, just just history

1412
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: and culture and just thank y'all for everything that y'all done.

1413
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, give it to the culture.

1414
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 2: Thank y'all for the inspiration, Thank y'all for everything that

1415
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 2: y'all continue to do. Thank y'all for continuing to approach

1416
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: it in the same way you did in eighty nine

1417
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: eighty eight, or just that attention to detail.

1418
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: And Kevin Scott does not sound like y'all chasing it

1419
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: like it sounds like it sounds like this out because

1420
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: it's like they're not going to believe that.

1421
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 2: Y'all were able to make this type of album in

1422
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: this climate, like and really sound like y'all did thirty

1423
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: something year, Like it's sucking insane that y'all were able

1424
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: to do that.

1425
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: So it was a healthy competition indeed, because because the

1426
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: media album coming, you know, the Mob Deep one coming,

1427
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: you know coming, Ghost here, you know.

1428
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: Right here, problems man up.

1429
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was early what's Goost doing over there? No please?

1430
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, was part of the pivot from the people.

1431
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah no, well that's what we had said earlier. Like

1432
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,520
Speaker 1: I knew in the early.

1433
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 5: Sessions that massive when MASSI Pill brought us together and

1434
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 5: it's me Nas or Ray Ghost and we're bugging out.

1435
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 5: But I'm looking at these niggas like, yo, I'm not

1436
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 5: going to be a slouch, Like I'm not playing Ghost

1437
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 5: is playing ship.

1438
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, Yo, this nigga got some shit free

1439
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: clientele too.

1440
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 5: Is crazy telling them this wild thing like Yo, your

1441
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 5: cover should be you robbing yourself.

1442
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: We're all laughing.

1443
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 5: That was crazy and I'm like and their energy, it

1444
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 5: was like that that made me feel like, yeah, man,

1445
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 5: like I gotta I gotta open this up from being

1446
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 5: a peat rock premier thing because I gotta kill these niggas.

1447
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: But in a real, like honorable way, because.

1448
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 5: That's how much I respect them Like that, Like I

1449
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 5: got to make sure that my album is nowhere near whack,

1450
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 5: Like I can't have that, you know, what I'm saying

1451
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 5: because I have that healthy level of not only competition

1452
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 5: but being scared.

1453
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like for me, like.

1454
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: I can't look whack Black Thought is.

1455
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 3: Going to get on the record with me.

1456
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: I know he's going to kill it.

1457
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 3: Yo.

1458
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:06,879
Speaker 5: I know he's going to, but I gotta, like Jesus,

1459
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 5: I gotta make sure that at least I got some quotables.

1460
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 5: I'm standing next to that dude or my brother Calm

1461
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 5: and like, that's how I looked at it.

1462
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 3: And that's how I.

1463
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: Looked at NAS, like I'm gonna get on this record.

1464
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: NOAs like what's crazy? As though I feel like common

1465
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: Black Thought, Nas ghosts. I feel like that's how they

1466
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: view y'all. Like I think the way you're looking at them,

1467
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: I think they're looking like, nah, I'm with Daylight. I gotta,

1468
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: I gotta get gotta.

1469
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 5: They know that they can come over here and go

1470
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 5: for it and and and it's about quality with us.

1471
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 3: It's not a styling thing.

1472
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 5: I don't need you on my records just so I

1473
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 5: can come on your show and nah, Like that's how

1474
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 5: we feel, man.

1475
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: We we love what we do, bro, No love this.

1476
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: We hear it we've seen it and again, man, it's

1477
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: it's just been an honor and a privilege.

1478
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: I think that's what we're catching in this day and age.

1479
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 3: Who really loves it?

1480
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'll we it, it'll weed itself.

1481
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're taking the DSPs don't pay right, so it's rock.

1482
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: It's your testament. Who really loves this? Absolutely?

1483
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: Before I let y'all go, are y'all re releasing the dunks?

1484
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: Is it talks to Nike like I need to know

1485
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 2: heavy tickets say I.

1486
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: Would love to. I mean, it's just not on me.

1487
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, my people's Donny.

1488
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: Baxed over there Nike, like out the dawn, you know.

1489
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 5: I kind of like try to throw like a little

1490
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 5: like yo, you know, and she'd be like she'd be.

1491
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: Silent, yeah, something like you know that we need to

1492
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: come back. That means that that that we need the

1493
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 1: cabin that we don't know, we would love to do that.

1494
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: That is that is incredible, incredible, And I know we

1495
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: have a massive Pill here as well. With everything you're

1496
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: talking about. What's that documented? Because I know Massive Pill

1497
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: does incredible documentary him. There's no fucking way that Peter

1498
01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: was just like we're not going to film this.

1499
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,520
Speaker 5: Not people is definitely coming through filming, Okay, okay.

1500
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: I can't I can't wait to see that footage. And

1501
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: do we get a tour? I would love to have

1502
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: Scott I always doing shows also, but specifically for this album.

1503
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 5: I would love to hopefully, Yeah, we're putting it in

1504
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 5: the Yeah for sure.

1505
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: Well listen, man, thank y'all. We appreciate y'all.

1506
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: Brother y'all. Yeah, Well, y'all are holding it down with integrity.

1507
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: Thank you much love, respect, Thank you, stick.

1508
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 3: To your guns.

1509
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 5: Keep it going, man, And you're just just real quick

1510
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 5: even off of what he just said, Like yo, man,

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Speaker 5: like we're blessed to be who we are. We're blessed

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Speaker 5: to be of an age and nigga, we like geeked

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Speaker 5: out that we want your showing.

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Speaker 1: With y'all, Like we know y'all you watch we're just

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Speaker 1: idiot fans with microphones.

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Speaker 3: This is like, y'all, man, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Define the culture that we love. We're just guys that

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Speaker 1: have electricity.

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Speaker 3: You're covering it response to believe, Yeah, and I love that.

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Speaker 2: We definitely that's definitely one of the conversations we have,

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Speaker 2: like we want to make sure that we talk about

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Speaker 2: the right ship. We talk about it the right way

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Speaker 2: from an honest perspective. We could be wrong, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm open to that too, but I

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Speaker 2: just as long as it never comes off as hating.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm never never hated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't don't do that gossip real deal.

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Speaker 1: Definitely really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Cabin in the Sky. Download that screen the

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Speaker 2: court day, so we just judged that.

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Speaker 3: Twenty first. Please