1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Taking a Walk on Buzz Night, and we 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: are continuing our Valentine's Week celebration with Love Songs and 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Heartbreak Stories, a special series where we revisit episodes that 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: explore the romantic heart of music. These are the conversations 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: about the songs that capture love's highest highs and lowest lows, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: the melodies that become the soundtrack to our most meaningful relationships. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: Today's guest is the incredibly talented Cindy Thompson, a country 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: artist whose voice and songwriting have touched hearts with their 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: authenticity and emotional depth. Cindy burst onto the country music 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: scene in the early two thousands, where their breakout hit 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: What I Really Meant to Say, a song that perfectly 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: captures the universal feeling of wishing you could take back 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: your words and express what's really in your heart. It's 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: a song about missed opportunities and unspoken feeling that so 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: many of us have experienced in matters of love. In 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: this conversation, Cindy opens up about the personal stories behind 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: your music, the vulnerability it takes to write from the heart, 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: and her journey through the Nashville music scene. So pour 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: yourself something special this Valentine's Week and settle in for 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: an intimate conversation about love, loss and the courage it 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: takes to say what you really mean. Taking a Walk 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: with Cindy Thompson is. 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: Next Taking a Walk. 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: Cindy Thompson, thanks for being on the Taking a Walk Podcast. 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 27 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: So since we call this this little podcast taking a Walk, 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: I want to ask you first, if you could take 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: a walk with somebody. I'll make it very suspenseful. If 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: you could take a walk with somebody living, your dead. 31 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: They could be involved with music, they don't have to 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: be Who would you take a walk with? And where 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: would you take a walk with them? That wasn't that suspenseful, 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: was it? 35 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: It sounded kind of cool? I felt it. Wow, Okay, 36 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: you know, I might take a walk with my great grandfather. 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: I never got to meet him, but we have this 38 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: amazing photograph in our house, and he's so handsome, and 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: he came from Scotland. He was a pastor and he 40 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: came from Scotland to become a preacher here and he 41 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: just looks really cool and I just love to pick 42 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: his brain. 43 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: Oh that's so special. I could I could visualize the 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: cool look. You know the picture. 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: Yes, he's so good looking, and I'm like, you know, 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: he just I don't know. I don't know what we 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: would talk about. I'm sure all kinds of things that 48 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: he's so intriguing to me. Every time I see that picture, 49 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, just one want to know him, but I don't, sir, 50 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: that's nice. 51 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: It's amazing the array of answers that we get with 52 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: the question. We get everybody from Johann Sebastian Bach to fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers. 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: It goes all over the place. It really does. 54 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: Well, if I had a lot of time to think 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: about it, I'd probably pick not pick my great grandfather. 56 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: But you know, there are so many people that I'm 57 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: intrigued by and stories, and so it's a good question. 58 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Thank you for that answer, and we're 59 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: going to talk about the brand new music. Certainly get 60 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: into that acres of diamonds and a pretty amazing sound 61 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: and cast of collaborators. So we'll get in the midst 62 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: of that conversation. But I do want to start at 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: the beginning with you and talk about some of your 64 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: earliest memories of music that certainly have shaped you to 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: this day. 66 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: You know, my favorite memories are always getting in the 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: car with my dad and he would always have the 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: oldies station playing. He was a big you know, my 69 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: parents weren't musical that they loved music. My mom played 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: the piano a little bit from time to time, like 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: hymns and things. My dad listened to oldies and we just, 72 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: I don't know so much great music, and it was 73 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: just constantly on in his car, even if we were 74 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: talking or whatever. It was just kind of playing in 75 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: the background, but then we'd turn it up and listen. 76 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: And so and then my sisters were older than me. 77 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: I was kind of the baby of four and kind 78 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: of an afterthought, although my mom said she was done 79 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: having kids and my dad was like, I just want 80 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: one more. And it wasn't to have a boy, they swear. 81 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: But anyway, my sisters had their own and uh, you know, 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: loves of music. One loved jazz like Manhattan transfer was 83 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: always playing. One liked urban music, and one just like 84 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: popular music. And so I really had a you know, 85 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: amazing you know intro to music. It was always kind 86 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: of playing somewhere in the house, all different kinds. 87 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: So and that was in the Nashville area. 88 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: No, I'm originally from South Georgia, So I grew up 89 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: in Tifton, Georgia. And yeah, it was just a small 90 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: town and that's where I'm from. 91 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: Probably knew everybody's name there. 92 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, yes, yeah, you do, you do. It's gotten 93 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: bigger now, but yeah. 94 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: And was there a moment, you know, being impacted by 95 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: that music that you just described that you know, you 96 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: first knew that you were going to make a career around. 97 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: Music, you know, I didn't until I was around I'm 98 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: twelve years. 99 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 2: Old, so that old. 100 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: Jeez, yeah, so old. Well, you know, you know, some 101 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: you'll hear these stories of kids that sung their whole lives, 102 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: and mine was a little bit different in that I 103 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: came out of middle school out of this really bad 104 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: bullying situation and so it really I think created this 105 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: part of me that just wanted to be quiet, kind 106 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: of disappear and not be seen. So it was kind 107 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: of solidified in a way, and I got into marching 108 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: band in junior high school. My sister had a clarinet. 109 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: I thought she was really cool, and I was a 110 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: terrible clarinet player, and I was the last chair and 111 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: that was just so bad. But I got into marching 112 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: band thinking I could be a part of something really big, 113 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: so that it wasn't just me, right, but because of music, 114 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to do something. And one afternoon the choir 115 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: teacher came in and said, is Cindy Thompson in here? 116 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: And I didn't want to raise my hand right because 117 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: I didn't want to be seen or heard or noticed. 118 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: But I went with her outside the classroom and she said, listen, 119 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: I heard that you could sing. And I was like, 120 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can sing. She had heard 121 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: about me, I think through a couple of solos i'd 122 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: done at church in our youth group, you know, but 123 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: my bully went to my church. So I didn't ever 124 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: want to sing, you know, because she was a good singer. 125 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just this whole thing. So she 126 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: took me in her choir class, put me in front 127 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: of the piano. All the students were sitting there, and 128 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: she began to play scales. They were really easy, they 129 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: got really hard, and I just sang them all back 130 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: to her and she said, I don't care what you 131 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: do with that clarinet. This is your classroom. This is 132 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: where you're going to be. So she was the first 133 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: person to ever say to my parents she's a star. 134 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: There's really something special about her. And I find it 135 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: ironic because I was so withdrawn and so shy and quiet, 136 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: but she heard something in my voice and I'm so 137 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: grateful to her for that because it was really what 138 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: That was the catalyst and turning this whole thing around, 139 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: and after that, it was really seeing you asked me 140 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: if there was a moment one Saturday morning around this 141 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: season of my life. I saw Trisha Eyarwood singing She's 142 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: in Love with the Boy on TV and stopped me 143 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: in my tracks. I was like, I don't know what 144 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: that is, but that's what I want to do and 145 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: I want to be her friend. And you know she 146 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: was from Georgia. It was just perfect timing on that 147 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: Saturday morning. 148 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Were you looking ahead at some of the questions? I 149 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: prepared because no, I'm teasing you because because the reality 150 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: is that I was next going to ask you about 151 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: your musical heroes. So you mentioned Tricia, who was a 152 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: great one. Were there others that really had a profound 153 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: impact just on you know, kind of giving you that 154 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: further creative spark. 155 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: Yes, there were, I mean because of all the music 156 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: that was in my house, you know, and I was 157 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: also a young teenager, so you know, your friends kind 158 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: of fluence your musical taste, and you know, listen to 159 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: popular radio and at the times it was Whitney Houston. 160 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: Debbie Gibson was huge because she was so young, and 161 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: it made it feel like I can do that too, 162 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: if that, if someone that young can sing, I have 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: that chance. Because back then there was no the Voice 164 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: or American idol. It was truly just a dream, you know, 165 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: to be in a tiny little town wishing to be 166 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: this country singer. But yeah, I would say Whitney Houston 167 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: the most. I just loved so much of what she did, 168 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: and I don't know, she was a big influence. 169 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: So your songs really have this incredible emotional honesty. Where 170 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: do you find that inspiration over your career in still 171 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: for your lyrics? 172 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. You know, sometimes I'm driving down 173 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: the road and I'll think of something and think, all 174 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: that would be a really good title, or you know, 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: I think so many things influence me and songwriters in general. 176 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 3: I think just moments we might see in real life 177 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: happening in front of us or you know, I just 178 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: know myself pretty well, and I know if I'm singing 179 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: a song to you or writing a song, I want 180 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: you to believe me. You know, I don't want to 181 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: sing something that's just it's just really important. And so 182 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: you know, I'm just inspired sometimes through reading, sometimes movies, 183 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: and just sometimes just a phrase that I hear and 184 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: then you know, you get together with a collaborator and 185 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: they bring what they have to the table and it 186 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: just becomes a story. I like to tell stories and 187 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: I like to you know, one thing that I do 188 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: when I write a lot is I can actually see 189 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: the like music videos sometimes playing out or as if 190 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: it's a movie, like what would be the thing that 191 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: we would say, what would the next thing be that 192 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: would happen? That would make sense? And so inspiration for me, though, 193 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: just comes from all over the place. 194 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: Do you dream in technicolor? 195 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes I do dream a lot. There are seasons I'll 196 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: dream every night, and yes, they're very vivid, they're very 197 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: movie like and very very detailed and long. I'm surprised 198 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm not tired the next morning. It's not all the time, 199 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: but fairly often. 200 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes, Yeah, is there a place or a routine that 201 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: you feel sparks your creativity. 202 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: I wish I could say yes. I think back when 203 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: I was a younger writer without a family, you know, 204 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: just kind of that first go around. You know, I 205 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: was writing every day, five days a week, sometimes you know, 206 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: two different rites a day, and it was just being 207 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: at the publishing company, you know, being in the in 208 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: the space where writers were in rooms, you could hear 209 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: the music coming out of them, and just that world 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: of Nashville at that time was so great. And now 211 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: it's so interesting because I have two children, I'm you know, married, 212 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: and I have a jewelry company. Things that I really 213 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: am pulled in so many different directions, and so now 214 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: it's just you know, making sure I plan to write 215 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: with someone, like getting it on the books, and then 216 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: you know, preparing in some sort of way before I go. 217 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: But no, I don't have a routine because my life 218 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: is so busy that it's not the same as it 219 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: was back then, you know. So I've had to really 220 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: learn to pull into the parking lot, walk into the 221 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: writer's room and focus. And you know, obviously I keep notes, 222 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: I keep ideas in my phone for those moments that 223 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: I get inspired but no, I really don't have like 224 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: this routine that I do. 225 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Just keep it that way then if it's working right, right, 226 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: we don't want to disrupt that your debut single. What 227 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: I really meant to say it was a big, big 228 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: hit us about that time in your life and about 229 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: that moment with that great song. 230 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: Sure sure, I was in love with this boy who 231 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: played baseball, and I met him in Georgia, and you know, 232 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: just I think we dated so long seven years. We 233 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: broke up on and awful lot through that seven years, 234 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 3: but it was really that first whole record is really 235 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 3: written around that relationship because that was the one that 236 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: meant the most, and then being young and growing up 237 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: in Georgia. But that particular song, what I really needed 238 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: to say, I wrote because we had broken up. It 239 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: was final, it was done where we're not playing the 240 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: games anymore. And his dream was always to be the 241 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: sculpture artist. He's a baseball player, but he came from 242 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: artists and he really had this idea that was different. 243 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: No one had done it, and I just really believed 244 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: in him and I wanted that for him, just like 245 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 3: he wanted for me to be a singer. So that 246 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: didn't happen. Within the span of our relationship. He did 247 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: start making art, but not the big gallery opening, like 248 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: to have a real place where you could hang your art. 249 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: And so we broke up and I found out not 250 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: too long after that that he got his first gallery opening. 251 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: So I was struggling with what to do, and I 252 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: just decided, who cares. I drove down to Georgia and 253 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: went to see this art opening. And he didn't know 254 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: I was coming in at that time, like he didn't 255 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: know I was coming in the room. I think he 256 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: knew I was going to be there. But I came 257 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: in and I saw him just walking around the room 258 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: talking about his art. Everything he had dreamed about, everything 259 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: that I had dreamed for him was happening. And I 260 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: was so proud of him because we were really good 261 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: friends too, and I remember seeing it. We made eye 262 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: contact and I just told him, I'm proud of you. 263 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: This is amazing. And I ended up leaving not too 264 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: long after that. I walked out the door. It was 265 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: very busy that night for him, and out in the 266 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: street it was like a movie. The street lights were 267 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: shining down perfectly lit street Atlanta in this particular area 268 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: Atlanta and I hear him calling my name in the street. Wow, 269 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: he's left his gallery opening. He's out in the street 270 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: and he's like, don't leave. And I'm like, I have 271 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: to go, and I'm really proud of you. And so 272 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: I left, and you know, the next day went back 273 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: to Nashville, and I got a notebook like a notepad 274 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: out and I wrote what I really meant to say 275 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: at the top of the paper, because what I really 276 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: wanted to say was I still love you, I still 277 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: feel all these feelings. But the right thing to do 278 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: was for me to go because we weren't meant to 279 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: be together. And I took that into my co write 280 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: and we wrote what I really meant to say. 281 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: Wow, what a great story. There you go, dreaming and 282 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: visualizing in technicolor again. 283 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,479 Speaker 3: I know it's so great. 284 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: Would you ever consider scoring, scoring a movie or or 285 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: being in the movie itself? 286 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, we've talked about that, you know, I've never 287 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: I've had some people recently talk to me about would 288 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: you want to do some acting or And yes, if 289 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: it made sense, you know, I don't want to be terrible, 290 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: and you know, so who knows. I mean, it's on 291 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: the bucket list. 292 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: Maybe Cindy be terrible. I don't think those two words 293 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: exist for you. 294 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: You are very kind. You never know when you know, 295 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: I've never done I did some acting in high school 296 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: on the school plays. So we'll see. 297 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taken a 298 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 299 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: So you did step away from the spotlight at one 300 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 2: point and what motivated that decision? Was that really a 301 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: life sort of you know, balance and kind of reassessing moment. 302 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely. You know, artists don't really know what that 303 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: life is like until they just jump into it, right. 304 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: You don't get like a crash course or boot camp. 305 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: And for me, it happened really fast, you know, just 306 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: the life. It turned into a dream come true. I 307 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: don't want to paint this picture that I had a 308 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: bad experience at the label, or you know, that I 309 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 3: was mistreated or anything like that. It truly everything was beautiful. 310 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: It was like from the outside looking in especially, it's 311 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: like this is exactly what you would want to happen 312 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 3: as an artist, Like you want your song to go 313 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: number one that you wrote, You want to be able 314 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: to open Furture Shyard, which I did. You know, Alan Jackson. 315 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: All of it was lining up perfectly, and I would 316 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: say a year in two it I started having major 317 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: panic attacks and I didn't know what they were, and 318 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: so it scared me because I thought, what is this. 319 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: I'm a very peaceful person. I have a great face 320 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: that I rely on, and I pray a lot, and 321 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, I felt very lonely and I felt 322 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: I can't describe it to you, but I was having 323 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: panic attacks and night terrors and a lot of anxiety, 324 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: and you know, back then, nobody was talking about those things. 325 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 3: And I felt like if I brought it up, I 326 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: kept it a secret for a while, that it would 327 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: look as if I didn't want to work hard or 328 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: that I didn't appreciate my opportunity. So I just kept 329 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: kind of trucking along. I had a doctor that would 330 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: kind of monitor my art weekly because it was like 331 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: crazy beating out of control. And I kept doing the work, 332 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: you know, And I loved singing. I loved the fans. 333 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: I loved just getting to meet people and hear you know, 334 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: there are stories about how my song had affected their life, 335 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: and there was so much beauty in that. But there's 336 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: also this other side to fame. And it's really a 337 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: natural to be famous, first of all, but you can 338 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: do that well. And for me at the time, I 339 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: just couldn't find the balance, and I felt like the 340 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: best answer was to like self preservation. You know. I 341 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: couldn't really look at the meetings that we were having 342 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: with businesses or companies to partner with them, like this 343 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: projected career that was on the table we were having 344 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: meetings about, and I couldn't look at that and make 345 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: this decision. I really had to say, if you are 346 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: doing something that you love to do and you're meant 347 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: to do it, your gift did in that area, and 348 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: you feel like you are falling apart at the seams 349 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: doing that job right at that second, I think it's 350 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: okay to step back and go what's going on, you know, 351 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: And so that's what I did. I just laid it down. 352 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: I always knew I would sing again. I didn't know 353 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: what that would look like, but I just felt like 354 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: for me, it was just saving something that really mattered. 355 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you mentioned, you know, there was a 356 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: period in the world that you know wasn't as easy 357 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: to talk about those things and be public about it, 358 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: or just make that decision. It's now, it's it's it's different, 359 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 2: I think, but it still is something that's often in 360 00:20:54,240 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: the shadows. And the fact that you confronted it and 361 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: are still talking about it must now lead you to 362 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: a greater appreciation of life balance, doesn't it. 363 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And to be able to have another dream 364 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: of mine come try, which was to be a stay 365 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: at home mom. I wanted to have a family like 366 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: my mom did, and I'm so grateful that I got 367 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: to do that, and it really taught me a lot. 368 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: And in coming back and choosing to sing again and 369 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: do it this way, I don't know. For me, it's 370 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: just there's such a richness to it that I don't 371 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: think would have been there had I not walked away. 372 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: Behind you. I see some beautiful jewelry. It must have 373 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: something to do with this little venture called the Haybell Company. 374 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: Tell us about how that became a reality and how 375 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: it's then become this wave of popular already among some 376 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: really cool people. 377 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like it fell from the sky. Was 378 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: very divine. You know. At the time, I wasn't singing yet. 379 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: This is about four years ago, and I was like, 380 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: I just want to be creative and I didn't know 381 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: what that was. 382 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: You know. 383 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I had written some songs and that kind of thing, 384 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: but I just wanted something. I don't know. I wanted 385 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: something for myself, and I was just trying to process 386 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: it all and think about, like what is that? And 387 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: I was being very prayerful about it, like okay, God, 388 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: like I want something. I want something to do, you know. 389 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: So I don't really have a lot of jewelry. I 390 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: wasn't a big jewelry wearer of things, you know, I 391 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: didn't even as an artist. I didn't even wear a 392 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: lot of necklaces. Like. I was just really, I don't know, minimal. 393 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: And I went to the beach one summer with my 394 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: family four years ago, just for a little week, little getaway, 395 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: and I see these earrings hanging in this shop and 396 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: I was like, I think I'm gonna make jewelry. And 397 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: my husband was like okay. So I got home and 398 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: I went to some local antique stores and just kind 399 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: of grabbed pieces that were broken and discarded and kind 400 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: of just one of like one offs, maybe a pair 401 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: of bearings, but they weren't a pair anymore because one 402 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: was missing. And I just came home and started creating 403 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: things at my dining room table, thinking it was a hobby, 404 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: and within two weeks it was on the red carpet 405 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: at the CMA Awards, which I think is interesting. And 406 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: it didn't come through a music contact. It came through 407 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: a friend who knew Hannah Billingsley, you know, Shane Mooney's wife, 408 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: And she called me and I drove to her house 409 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: and took the joy that I had and none of 410 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: it matched her dresses, and so I said, I can 411 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: make you something, And so I went home that night 412 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: and dug in this box and made these earrings that 413 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 3: ended up being at the red carpet. She was photographed 414 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: because they were doing well. They're always doing well, but 415 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: this particular CMA Awards, they had gotten a lot of nominations, 416 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: and so she was just everywhere. She was on the 417 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: TV every like TV like it was crazy, sitting in 418 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: her seat and you could just see my earrings. And 419 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: it was a little hard because I was so proud 420 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: of Heybell. I couldn't believe that that happened. But I 421 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: also was sad because I wasn't sitting there, and I 422 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: had to really think about that, like what is that 423 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: pay attention? What does that mean, and I think that 424 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: was the first the catalyst in Okay, I think God's 425 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: prepping my heart for maybe what's coming. But I just 426 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: kept making the joy, and the stylists and the artists 427 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: kept calling, and it's really just one of the kind pieces. 428 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: I do have an everyday line that's, you know, not 429 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 3: one of the kind, but most of my pieces. What 430 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: I love of about what I do is that, you know, 431 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: I just get to be creative all the time with 432 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: whatever I find all over the world. I shop all 433 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: over the world, and I just put these things together 434 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: and it's so fun. 435 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: You make it so matter of fact. 436 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: I mean it kind of is. I mean, even my husband, 437 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: like I did my own website. I take those pictures, 438 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: I did my own logo. Like for me from a 439 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: business standpoint, it really felt good to sit in my 440 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: jewelry room, this little space I have, and listen to 441 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: podcasts on how I built that, you know that podcast 442 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: like listening to Kendrick Scott talk about jewelry, listening to 443 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: Oh Gosh, the Spanks founder Sarah Blakely talking about how 444 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: she started spanks and hearing these crazy stories of people 445 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: that sailed, that failed, that failed, you know, and then 446 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: they just stuck with it. So I all the while 447 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing this, thinking I'm crazy. I'm listening to these 448 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 3: people say, don't give up, don't give up, don't give up, 449 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: and I haven't. It's the little engine that could. But 450 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: I'm really proud of it. And my husband, like I 451 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: was saying earlier, he would come in here and you'd go, 452 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: I can't believe you're doing this. It's really good. I'm like, 453 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: I know, it's interesting, isn't it, because I'd I'd never 454 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: done anything like that, so I don't know. It's just finding. 455 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: I always say to people, just be open to new 456 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: adventures in life. Life doesn't have to be empty and 457 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: stagnant and broken. You can really, you know, carefully be 458 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: adventurous and you know, not give up on dreaming. And 459 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm living proof. I'm in my forties and starting all 460 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: over with this crazy thing. 461 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: Follow in your heart, yeah, following your heart and just 462 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: being passionate about it, right, yes, yeah, which now, okay, 463 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry it took so long. Brings us to acres 464 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: of diamonds. Congratulations on Thank You. The Coming EP or 465 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: New Music five More Minutes is the single talk about 466 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: some of the work behind that, some of the collaborators 467 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: and what folks can expect to you. 468 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: Well, Acres of Diamonds is the title of the new 469 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: EP we have coming out May twenty third, and you 470 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: know it is a labor of love. You know, we 471 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: had a lot of songs to choose from, and we 472 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: just all kind of my team came together and said, 473 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: these are the ones. Acres of Diamonds is the title 474 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: cut because it's about what I've been building outside of 475 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: the music industry. This simple life to me, that is 476 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: full of diamonds. You know, my kids are the acreage 477 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: and they are the diamonds, and that's what we've built, 478 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: my husband and I this life. So I thought that 479 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: was important for the listener to know, hey, this is 480 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: where I've been. Five More Minutes is the latest single, 481 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: and it's really just about not something where you look 482 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: back and regret that you weren't present in a moment, 483 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: but just a favorite moment that, gosh, if I could 484 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: just go back for five more minutes to be so fun. 485 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: Like one of the lines in the song is riding 486 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: my pink huffey bike. My daddy got me this amazing 487 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: pink huffy bike and I loved it, and I wrote 488 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: it every day barefoot. They're all over the place, and 489 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 3: sometimes I'll look outside and see kids riding their bikes 490 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: and I think, oh, I wish I could just do 491 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 3: that again for five more minutes, you know, like that. 492 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: So it's just a song to just kind of maybe 493 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: just hopefully make us all more aware of the places 494 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: and times in front of us that we can be 495 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: really present, you know. And so it's one of my favorites. 496 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: And then we have this big song coming out. It's 497 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: a song called Black Selica. My daughter was like, what 498 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: is that? And I'm like, it's a car that was 499 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: really cool back in the day. But I wrote it 500 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: with Ashley Monroe and Mickey Reeves and Ashley I was like, 501 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: why don't you sing on it? You know, why don't 502 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: you let's feature you on this song, because she's magnificent, 503 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: Like her voice is stunning. It's I called it like 504 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: a beautiful butterfly the other day. You know, it knows 505 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: where to land, it knows how to surround the lead, 506 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: like she just has her place in this track, and 507 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of it. Paul Ssykes did it for us, 508 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: So that is something that's really exciting to me that 509 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: we got to do that together. And in fact, Black 510 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: Silica is kind of based off of that boy, that 511 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: baseball player that I dated back and with what I 512 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: really meant to say, So we kind of put all 513 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: of our minds together and had our own little contribution 514 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: to the song that meant something to us, and so 515 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: that's exciting. And then I did a cover of a 516 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: Harry style song Fallen. We had a list of covers 517 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: and I was like, what do we do? I listened 518 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: to all kinds of music, and I was like, I 519 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: just love that song, So that kind of became the 520 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: one that we decided on. I just love the lyrics 521 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: of that song, like I love the intimacy and the pain. 522 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: I love paint, like I love the love song kind 523 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: of pain, right, So it just worked. It's the Cindy song. 524 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: And then a song called so Glad You're Mine I 525 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: wrote a while back about I've been married twenty three 526 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: years and it's kind of a song about just really 527 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: solidifying being in love even this far into it. Like 528 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: I just love the idea of telling this love songs, 529 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 3: telling the story. So I'm proud of it. You know. 530 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: It's again, a lot of people have worked really hard. 531 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: My team has worked really hard on helping bring this 532 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: to life because because we're independent, we're doing it a 533 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: different way. And so it feels good and I'm excited. 534 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: I love the independent aspect of it. I love more 535 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: and more that artists are able to be independent in 536 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 2: their thinking and their strategy with it. I think one 537 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: of the beautiful things about what's happening with maybe by 538 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: necessity in some cases, but in general, that artists can 539 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: have the confidence to be independent. I think that's really cool. 540 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: It is it's scary, you know, it's scary at first 541 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: because I had come back from just the time frame 542 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 3: where it was only a record deal and then radio. 543 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: When I jump back into this, it's like, this guy's 544 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: the limit. You can do it any way you want 545 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: to do it. And I'm like, well, I need some structure, 546 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 3: like what I need? I need parameters. I'm not designed 547 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: that way. And so I just found an amazing manager 548 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: and she's a believer, she's a champion, and she's she's 549 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: just amazing, and we just started building this like learning 550 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: about how to do it independently, and it's it's been 551 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: really hard and really beautiful and we have learned a lot. 552 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes we laugh, I'm like, we've accomplished 553 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: a lot in our little you know, almost two years 554 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: of doing this together. Like, but I'm very excited about 555 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: what's to come. And the good thing about independence, too 556 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: is just the freedom to pivot when we need to 557 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: if we want to. Also, I get to just go 558 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: pick up my son from school until he's driving. Officially, 559 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: she can do the same for her daughter. We just 560 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: kind of, hey, I'm out at three, I got to 561 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: go to some baseball games. You know, there's just there's 562 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: a beauty of it. Now that it's getting busier, it's 563 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: getting busier, but we'd both agreed that we put the 564 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: things that mattered most in first, you know, in his family. 565 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: Will you be taken taken to the road a bit? 566 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: I absolutely want to go on the road. I mean, 567 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: I my hope is to you know, be a part 568 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: of some sort of tour at some point. We have 569 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: a few shows coming up, one in the fall that's 570 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: being solidified now and enjoy Jeff, But ultimately I'd love 571 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: to be back just on some sort of tour. It's 572 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: so fun to do that, and you know, so we'll 573 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: see what lies ahead. 574 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: You have such a great attitude with it all. It's 575 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: so you know, authentic and empowering and inspiring, and the 576 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: music is really awesome as well. 577 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Well, I know I try to. 578 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm not always as positive. Their days are hard, you know, 579 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: in all aspects of life. I think we all go 580 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: through moments where we're like, is this the right thing 581 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: to do? And you know you just have to backtrack 582 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: and think of how it all fell into place. I 583 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: can't deny the open doors. You know that it's just 584 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: been really divine and really beautiful. 585 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: Well, Cindy Thompson, congratulations on everything. I'm so grateful that 586 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: you came on Taking a Walk, and I know our audience, 587 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: including me, are rooting for you in this exciting next 588 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: chapter of your life. 589 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'd love talking with you. 590 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 591 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 592 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: and follow us so you never miss an episode. 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