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Speaker 2: Days, those days of soda and that sous and Roninian.

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Speaker 1: It's too late when you go to the mechanic at

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Speaker 1: oil changes, entire rotations. Hey, I want to start to

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Speaker 1: maintain the car. You know in my eyes that car

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Speaker 3: You know I can hear the fuel pump, right, hear

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Speaker 3: it crank, no start? And then that's when I'm panning,

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Speaker 3: because I use this commercially for work, and here it

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Speaker 4: In my driveway.

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Speaker 1: And now what books?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I dial wrong.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron Andanian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 2: the phone and call in the garage doors are open.

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Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eighty

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Speaker 1: five five five six oh ninety nine hundred rest that

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Speaker 1: So I have a question for all of you, and

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Speaker 1: my question is do you set yourself up to fail

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Speaker 1: Because I see it time and time again. I saw

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Speaker 1: it again this week, multiple times. I could talk about

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Speaker 1: We had a twenty eighteen in Accura, one of the

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Speaker 1: it's maybe we haven't learned how to learn. You know,

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Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know. You know, you think

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Speaker 1: and the chance that maybe your mechanics telling you the

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Speaker 1: same thing, and you get the same uneasy feelings that

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Speaker 1: Elaine was getting, and you know, the alarmo bell golf

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, so it doesn't cost you a

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Speaker 1: vehicle prematurely. Elaine's driving a twenty eighteen accurate about eighty

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Speaker 1: I think I think her alarm was starting to ring.

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Speaker 1: About a year ago, she had brakes done on the car,

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Speaker 1: and when she picked it up, the brakes weren't you know,

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Speaker 1: they didn't feel right. Ron There's something about the brakes

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Speaker 1: you go. And for all the internet trolls out there,

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Speaker 1: There's thirty five hundred dollars needed, four tires, there's two

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Speaker 1: Lene ended up spending I'm guessing somewhere around fifty grand

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Speaker 1: I often think about this, and I always try to

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Speaker 1: the Great Beyond from Memorial Day twenty eleven. An older

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Speaker 1: And it's always good to hear Uncle Steve's voice. So

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom. Let's get over to the phones. Let's go

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Speaker 1: over to Jack in Jersey nineteen four. Escape Jack, you're

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Speaker 1: So it happens with both fobs, Jack, Yes, you're sure.

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Speaker 4: both of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just to be certain when we're done, if we're

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Speaker 1: of the other, and just notice it going forward. All right.

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Speaker 1: This way, This way we'll know for sure there's no confusion,

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Speaker 1: prove that it's let's prove that it's not the fobs,

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Speaker 1: Most likely, I still I'd still number the remotes one

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Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it's how you talk to it. I know

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Speaker 6: Okay Ron? How are you doing good?

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Speaker 1: Here? We are Memorial Day twenty eleven, Uncle Steve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've seen a few of them. Yeah. You were how

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Speaker 6: Well that was nineteen years old, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen forty one.

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Speaker 1: Well, your uncle, Steve. All the years I know you,

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Speaker 6: Your father, your father at that time, was going to school.

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Speaker 6: really fool about So the truth is that we did

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00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 6: an awful lot of things that you won't be allowed

434
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 6: to do today.

435
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's okay. Your generation, like many generations, have

436
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: done an awful lot of things that we're thankful for.

437
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of which Memorial Day, Uncle Steve, if you had

438
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: to put it into a couple of sentences, what's it all.

439
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 6: About, Well, it's a sacred highway for us here in America. Actually,

440
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 6: it's just not good alay for the people throughout the world,

441
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 6: because we honor our ancestors, our family members that passed

442
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 6: on the military service, people that fought forced for ford,

443
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 6: for our freedom. Remember, freedom is not free, and these

444
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 6: people sacrificed their lives and gave their lives so that

445
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 6: you and I could be on the radio like this

446
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 6: talking and having a great time.

447
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right.

448
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, Ron, I'm eighty nine years old,

449
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 6: and there is a day that doesn't go by that

450
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 6: I think of the guys, my buddies that didn't make it.

451
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 6: Back at my outfort outfit, we lost two out of

452
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 6: every three men, so we had sixty six percent losses.

453
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 6: The Eighth Air Force lost thirty five thousand men during

454
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 6: World War two, which is an awful lot of lives.

455
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's just immeasurable. When I you know,

456
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 6: you got a car show, and I always think of

457
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 6: the mechanics, the crew chiefs that kept us going all.

458
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 6: I flew sixty three combat missions and I never had

459
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 6: to aboard a mission because of engine failure, I mean,

460
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 6: any mechanical problems. And these fellows, these cook chies were

461
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 6: working on our airplanes outdoors at night, some of them

462
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 6: with using flashlights to you know, maintain the aircraft. And

463
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 6: you know, we're talking about high performance aircraft, not the

464
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 6: you know, normal aircraft that will fly under practically any condition.

465
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 6: These things got to be tuned up to its utmost

466
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 6: to perform, and these fellows were able to do that

467
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 6: under those conditions. It's just unbelievable. The capabilities of these men.

468
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: A testimony to the country. Uncle Steve is always a pleasure.

469
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: Sir.

470
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: We wish you a lot of peace this weekend and

471
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: in your coming years, and we hope to have you

472
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: around for a good long time. But I want to

473
00:25:48,080 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time today. Welcome back Ronnie

474
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: and the car Doctor. You know, real quick, at least

475
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: I can say that I did that right. You know,

476
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Uncle Steve's gone almost five years now, and I said,

477
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: I have to put him on radio because someday I'm

478
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: going to want to listen to him and everybody's going

479
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: to hear him again when he's gone. And sure enough,

480
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: there you go. So lots of Uncle Steve's stories. But

481
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: right now, let's get over to let's go to Larry

482
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: and Florida, Oh for Chevy Tahoe and some problems. Larry,

483
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How are you today?

484
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: Wonderful to be back with you, Ron, What a terrific

485
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: show you and Tom put together. And we've got a

486
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: real difficult problem we need help on. Okay, It's a

487
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: two thousand and four Chevrolet Tahoe with about two hundred

488
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: and four thousand miles. About six months ago, the check

489
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: engine light came on for the first time. I had

490
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: it scanned at AutoZone and it indicated a problem with

491
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: the knock sensor. We then ordered two GM OEM sensors

492
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 3: through a major online reputable service and got them in

493
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: and had an excellent independent mechanic, a real soul of

494
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: the earth. He installed both the new GM sensors. We

495
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 3: got the key drove it for a while. I thought

496
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 3: it was fixed. When we got it back a short

497
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: time thereafter, the sensor came back, the check enge light

498
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 3: came on. We took it back at it rescan and

499
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: it had the same error message. So I believed that

500
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: there was a problem with the quality of the parts.

501
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: So I bought two gm OEM sensors from the local

502
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: Chevrolet dealership, and the mechanic then installed them and he

503
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: replaced the wiring harnesses and he was very he's very skilled,

504
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: and then he said these are defective. And I spoke

505
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: with the dealership and they thought I was a criminal,

506
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: and I went back in asking to get them exchange

507
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: or refunded. They had their top mechanic come over with

508
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: a vault meter. He tested it in front of me

509
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: and the parts manager and he said these are defective.

510
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: So they got two other sensors from another dealership, checked

511
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: them and said these are good. I took them back

512
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: to our mechanic and he had since had started researching

513
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: how to check them with these vault meters, and he

514
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: said they look okay, and he installed them. Everything was

515
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: fine for about one thousand miles, and then the sensor

516
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: that the same check engine light with the same error

517
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: code came back up, and I was wondering if you

518
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: run into a problem with it's the series of the

519
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: two thousand to two thousand and five Tahoe Suburbans, Avalanches, Silverados.

520
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: Knock sensors are tough codes, Larry, I'm not gonna lie.

521
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: They're a pain in the neck. What it's doing is,

522
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: you know understand how a computer tests a knock sensor circuit?

523
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: All right? A knock sensor, first of all, is a

524
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: pisio electric sensor. It generates its own signal from nothing.

525
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: So what the computer is doing is it gets to

526
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: a moment of vehicle operation and it will start to

527
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: advance timing, and it will bring timing up to the

528
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: point where it's expecting to hear ping or detonation. Remember

529
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: the cars of days gone by with cheap gas and

530
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: big motors and struggling to get up hill and you'd

531
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: hear that knock and detonation sound. Yeah, that's the purpose

532
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: of a knock sensor to advance timing to the edge

533
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: and no more but get maximum power but no ping

534
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: or detonation. So it will advance timing to the point

535
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: it's looking to hear the engine fail electrically. It's looking

536
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: to hear that ping or that detonation sound. If the

537
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: engine runs normally with zero to thirty six degrees of

538
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: advance and it brings it up to forty five degrees

539
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: of advance and it doesn't hear any ping or detonation,

540
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: it's making the assumption, Hey, there's something wrong with the

541
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: OX sensor or the circuit or the controls. So that's

542
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: just you know, how it works. What everybody's testing sounds right.

543
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: They should be using an O meter. We typically see

544
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: between ninety and one hundred and ten thousand oms out

545
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: of the sensor, and you can write that down. That's

546
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: a good spec for that, you know. Just I don't

547
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: know what number they're using, all right, but time and

548
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: time again, between ninety and one hundred and ten thousand

549
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: homes is just about right. And I would test that

550
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: from you know, the two pin connector on the top

551
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: of the intake. It'll be two blue wires and you

552
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: want to owe each wire to ground on the nock

553
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: sensor side going back to the sensor, and that'll show

554
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: continuity to the harness to the connector, to the pins

555
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: to the sensor. To the ground to the block if

556
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: that makes sense, got it right, So we want to

557
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: see between ninety and one hundred and ten thousand homes.

558
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: If we've got between ninety and one hundred and ten

559
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: thousand homes of resistance going that way, then our problem

560
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: has to be the other way, all right, And we've

561
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: got to stop and consider do we have a problem

562
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: in the main wiring harness of the vehicle and we could, right,

563
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: it's possible. So the way we're going to eliminate that

564
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: is once we test things going this way, if we

565
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: prove it good time and time again, between the harness

566
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the sub harness and the sensors, and they

567
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: always own correctly, and we think it's the other way.

568
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: We're going to take those two blue wires. We're gonna

569
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: snip the connector. We're gonna run two fresh new blue wires.

570
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't care what color they are, but two new

571
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: wires back to the PCM tap in at the main

572
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: engine computer harness, you know, come two inches out, find

573
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: a convenient place where it's going to be, and solder

574
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: it in. Make sure it's a good, clean, tight connection.

575
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: And then what happens if we still have the problem. Well, heck,

576
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: you've eliminated the sensor, you've verified the harness and you

577
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: replaced it. You've now subbed in a new harness, right,

578
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: what's left?

579
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Yes, the computer just the Yeah, that's it.

580
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. But that's the process of elimination, all right.

581
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: Could I ask you, in your shopping with your own

582
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: force suburban, have you ever had the nock sensor problem

583
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: end up being the PM.

584
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: Nope, my suburban.

585
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 6: No.

586
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Have I seen it before? Yes, but that doesn't you know,

587
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: I won't go jumping in and just start changing that PCM.

588
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: You're you're you know, first of all, you got to

589
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: find one, all right. Now, AutoZone probably has a reman

590
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: for you, and you know that would work, but I

591
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: would check there. But understand, we're driving twenty year old,

592
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty two year old vehicles now, Larry, and as good

593
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: as good as AutoZone is, they can't have parts for

594
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: everything they seem to bo. But you know, it's getting

595
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: to the point where.

596
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: Ron, if you were going to try a replacement knock

597
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: sensor that was not gm oem Delco, because I do

598
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: think there's a bad batch of them that was circulated.

599
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: I asked the dealership to send a notification, and they

600
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: looked like, you know, they couldn't give a hoot about it.

601
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: But the is there a second or third aftermarket brand

602
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: that you've had good luck with?

603
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: NNGK If NGK makes a knock sensor for that application,

604
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: all right, it'll be n GK NTK, all right, or

605
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Standard motor products, either one of those, and if I'm

606
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: not mistaken, those are available at AutoZone as well.

607
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: Excellent, this is wonderful advice. We're going to get right

608
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: on it. You really saved us the day. As always,

609
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: we love the classic car clips, and you had one.

610
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: I've spoken with you, I think it was twenty fourteen

611
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: or fifteen about our old Revolver.

612
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: This is Larry Volt. That's too funny.

613
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: I listened to the I listened to what you said,

614
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: and we followed the instructions you gave us, and we've

615
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: had very good luck. We still have the two Larry.

616
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: I gotta go, baby, I gotta have Larry. Sorry to

617
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: thank you, Sary. Very welcome Larry's funny. I'm running any

618
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: of the car doctor. I'll be back right after this.

619
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back running in the car doct last minute words

620
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: of wisdom from Uncle Steve. All right, I got a minute.

621
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: So I've never told this story on air, and I

622
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: thought about it today as I was listening to him

623
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: talk today. We were kids, my brother and I and

624
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: we went out on the ocean with Uncle Steve and

625
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: his boat. And probably looking back, maybe you got to

626
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: think to yourself, was it the best idea to go

627
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: out on the open ocean with Uncle Steve in a boat,

628
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: knowing his abilities into p fifty one? Like how much

629
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: trouble could he get into? But it wasn't that. It

630
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: wasn't like that. We were out there and we got

631
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: caught in the weather, and I remember how rough the

632
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: sea got and how the waves came up and out

633
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 1: of nowhere. We were in bad weather, and my brother

634
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: and I were young kids at the time, and we

635
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: were driving the boat and having a great time. And

636
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: I saw Uncle Steve take over the boat. He took

637
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: over command like a captain, like a pilot, and with

638
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: calm demeanor and just sat down and fought his way

639
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: through the weather and brought us back through some of

640
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: the worst storm I've seen off the coast of Jersey

641
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: in a long long time. And it makes me think

642
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: and realize how it must have been those years flying

643
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: up there in the wild blue running the bomber into Germany,

644
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: and God bless uncle Steve. We miss you and the

645
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: rest in peace. I'm on an ady in the car

646
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: doctor until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

647
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: See you