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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson an I Heeart radio podcast. All right, hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: he's Scott Patterson animal in podcast part two of Say

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Speaker 1: Goodbye to Daisy Miller. We are we are running running

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Speaker 1: hot in the mouth, as they say, as we haven't

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Speaker 1: poople head stop it. Can I say he's a man

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Speaker 1: and he's confused? No, he was, He is not a man.

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Speaker 1: He is a little boy himself. Later, but he was mean.

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Speaker 1: He was so mean to Lindsay. He cut them out

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Speaker 1: I wrote jerk, jerk, and he's like, you don't get it,

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Speaker 1: have done. I have a question for you that. So

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Speaker 1: How do you think him coming back home would have been?

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Speaker 1: Like if Loralai said said something like I'm happy for

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Speaker 1: I didn't think about that until you just said it.

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Speaker 1: and controls them and destroys their lives. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: just and everybody's a mess that comes into contact. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like fatally wrong, I mean total what's

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Speaker 1: the virtue with being involved with the Rory Gilmore? What

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Speaker 1: is the virtue there? Really? I mean, what are these

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Speaker 1: guys getting out of this? She's non committals, she's condescending,

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Speaker 1: she's very sweet in the process of doing it. I

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Speaker 1: just think she's very confused and she just, you know,

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Speaker 1: she's maybe I don't know. Is she emotionally unprepared to

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Speaker 1: deal with any of this stuff for us? Are we

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Speaker 1: just expecting too much too soon for somebody at that age.

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Speaker 1: Here's my question for the three of you. Who is

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Speaker 1: now we're a couple days later, maybe one, maybe two?

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Speaker 1: Is Rory wrong? Is Dean wrong? No? I think Dean

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Speaker 1: is always going to be way more wrong. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: do agree. I do think. I do think Rory had

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Speaker 1: a fault in last night. But it also was very

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Speaker 1: bad that she then did it again after thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: so like the double repeat was not good. Um, but yeah, Dean,

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Speaker 1: Dean is the one that's falling on the sword. Also,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, remember when they fell asleep and miss

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Speaker 1: Patty is like a play it's a place for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: A'm shocked no one saw them. Next question, whose got

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Speaker 1: the guts to dial this phone number? Oh? What Luke's number?

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Speaker 1: I'll call it, yeah and ask for Luke. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: fact that it wasn't a five five five. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, oh daniel speaker, But what do I

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Speaker 1: say when I answer? It is Luke? Okay, say it's Laurel.

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Speaker 1: To be quiet. I'm nervous. I'm not gonna crank calling.

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Speaker 1: And I just please thank your message for see if

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Speaker 1: he calls us back, just says say Danielle. Say it's

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Speaker 1: we're calling Danielle. Somebody with guts. Call again. You don't

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Speaker 1: call again. I'm gonna call and say, hey, Luke, this

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Speaker 1: is Luke. What are you doing with my number? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try calling again. But you know what's crazy

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Speaker 1: is it's a number from Connecticut. Like it's actually that

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Speaker 1: would make sense. It's the same yeah, but like they

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Speaker 1: actually did. There's no way she could have just put

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Speaker 1: Amy meaning Amy Sherman Palladino could have just put a

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Speaker 1: number like that. I'm surprised the voicemail didn't say hey,

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Speaker 1: it's Luke, that they just got the number. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm sweating. I don't know why this. It makes me

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Speaker 1: so diarrheal, like I'm so nervous. I don't know. I've

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Speaker 1: never made crank calls. When I did, I did im

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Speaker 1: out is your refrigerator running? Hi? My name is Danielle.

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Speaker 1: I work with iHeartRadio. I'm calling on behalf of the

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Speaker 1: I Am All In podcast. Um it's a Goma girls podcast.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you get this like a million times,

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Speaker 1: but um, this number was displayed in one of the episodes,

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Speaker 1: and I was just curious if you get called all

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Speaker 1: the time and have people asking if Luke is there? Um,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, if you don't mind giving me a callback,

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Speaker 1: I would love to discuss. Thank you, Danielle, you did

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Speaker 1: good jobs. You sounded she's sweating. God, that's funny. That

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Speaker 1: was really good. District Attorney for the state of Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: We'll think about it, like we just started watching this

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Speaker 1: what we watched this episode? And how many podcast listeners

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Speaker 1: do we have? Everyone's now watching this episode. There has

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Speaker 1: to be other people who have thought the same thing

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Speaker 1: and possibly even tried. We have hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that was weird. It was weird to

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Speaker 1: see someone holding a phone while driving. I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's illegal. Yeah, this kind of guy. Lucas Man, I'm

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Speaker 1: not for love, but I love the last line. Hell

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Speaker 1: of a test run second go round about the inn right. Oh,

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Speaker 1: so good? So good? It's so good? Um, I mean question,

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Speaker 1: can I I need to ask a question here? How

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Speaker 1: did Kirk sustain his buttocks injury? And what was specifically

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Speaker 1: the injury? Rose Bush got the thorns pickles? No, she said,

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Speaker 1: I think I meant to say rose prickles. Oh that

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Speaker 1: sounds about right? Is that those are called thorns? Right? Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: I do have one scene I do want to bring up,

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Speaker 1: just an honorable background actor mentioned because it was just

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Speaker 1: it literally made me ll Ivery want like five times. Um.

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Speaker 1: I just told Jackie to pull it up, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if she's if she can find that scene

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Speaker 1: that quick enough? Was it? My favorite line, call me

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Speaker 1: Belinda because my litt sealed. We have to talk about

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Speaker 1: that in pop culture. So good. My favorite line was

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Speaker 1: you've turned us into the scandal of the neighborhood from Emily.

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Speaker 1: Mine was the one I said earlier with Richard and

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Speaker 1: Emily's banter. Ye is it just a whole episode? Was it?

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Speaker 1: Everybody rate the episode? Oh? Gosh, yeah, go ahead, Tara,

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Speaker 1: I have to pick. I know I'm more concerned what

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Speaker 1: item I'm I'm giving? All right? What's yeah? Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: measuring six. My favorite part start nine point eight five

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Speaker 1: Lindsay's brownies. Oh, it's an almost perfect episode for me.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I got a jumped ahead. Sorry, Targo. I'll

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Speaker 1: go with nine point five Emily's skirts. Funny, funny ten

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Speaker 1: latigra polos. You know you know, if you know you know? Um, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're giving it a ten. Eh. I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: a nine niner point fiver. Um. I agree with Danielle nine.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna deduct point fiver for the demolition on the

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Speaker 1: Gilmore House. Um, the to get the Richard and Emily house. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give it nine point fiver. Uh. Luke's pullovers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: brown sweaters. I like it. Jackie. Do you have the scene?

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Speaker 1: M Oh, look at the maid. She gives the biggest

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Speaker 1: eye roll of the century. Oh, you can't really tell

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Speaker 1: on that, but that's a great shot. This is such

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Speaker 1: a Yeah, that's such a great shot. Richard stepping in

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Speaker 1: the door closing. That is that's from the golden age

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Speaker 1: of filmmaking. That shot when it's not like pixelated. She

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Speaker 1: literally does a whole upwards eye roll and I was

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I love her all right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap up Part two. Um and listen, gang,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at just letting you know. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be at the Louisville Comic Con or Louisville Pop Con.

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Speaker 1: I think it's June sixteen through eighteen, Louisville, Kentucky, and

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Speaker 1: I hope to see everybody there. I'm excited. I've never

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Speaker 1: been to Louisville. I hear it's a fantastic place and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to example some of its cuisine. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, what are they known for post con? Uh,

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Speaker 1: well we'll find out. But anyway, thanks for downloaded. Thank you, Amy,

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Speaker 1: Danielle Tara Um all the best best fans on the planet.

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Speaker 1: I just remember I am all In. See you next time.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe, hey, everybody, and don't forget follow us on

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