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Speaker 2: It's spooky and jooky.

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Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, I'm ghosted. I Das.

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Speaker 2: Polles.

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Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to ghost It

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Speaker 1: by Roz Hernandez the podcaster. I talk to people that

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Speaker 1: I like about the Para normal. I love this guest today,

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Speaker 1: Vinnie Thomas. He's been on the show before. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe it. It was like two years ago. That's crazy. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's so funny. A lot of people know his work

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Speaker 1: on the internet. He's also an actor that's popping up

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Speaker 1: on TV these days quite a bit, and he's just

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Speaker 1: like such a funny character actor like he does. He

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Speaker 1: does does great voices and stuff like that. So check

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Speaker 1: out his content if you've never seen it. I think

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Speaker 1: one of one of our favorites is the Pigeon at Pride,

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Speaker 1: which is a classic, another classic that I love. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the popes that didn't win Pope, that was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the running for pope, but didn't snatch

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Speaker 1: the crown. That's a funny one. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it's called, but it's you all find it anyway. I'm

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Speaker 1: definitely in my internet ghost huntress era, and if you

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Speaker 1: didn't know, I have several videos now that are on

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Speaker 1: my YouTube of me ghost hunting and haunted hotel rooms

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Speaker 1: with guys that I meet on Grinder, and it is

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Speaker 1: something I'm very proud of. I work really hard on it,

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Speaker 1: and I would so appreciate if you checked it out.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't, people seem to be loving it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm loving that, so I'm going to just keep doing them.

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Speaker 1: I have all these plans to go do some more

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Speaker 1: ghost huntressings, so we're all turnand as the haunted doll

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and then you know, once everyone's watched, then

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Speaker 1: I could talk about those things more on the show

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Speaker 1: because those are my ghost experiences. Okay, let's talk to

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Speaker 1: Vinnie Thomas on with the show. I'm joined once again

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Speaker 1: by Vinnie Thomas.

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Speaker 2: This is such a spooky podcast because I actually had

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Speaker 2: no idea when Roz was going to do the Introoh

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Speaker 1: What you were just telling me that you wanted to

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Speaker 1: be a red carpet gig guy, like one of the

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Speaker 1: ones on That's like.

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Speaker 2: So who you're wired to that? I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: be a red carpet gay guy. I thought that was

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Speaker 2: the only reasonable career path. This, what I'm doing now

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Speaker 2: seemed unattainable.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 2: What seemed attainable was being like a local news guy

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Speaker 2: the anchors love you because you're just like this little

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Speaker 2: local gay guy and you're tearing up on grinder because

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Speaker 1: Up online career star, Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 2: I thought that's was the reason where I honestly probably

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Speaker 1: There's no red carpets there. No, we're at We're at

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Speaker 1: the opening of the new Pickley Wiggly.

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Speaker 2: I like that. You're doing Regis filmin and explicably free. Yeah, Wiggly,

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Speaker 2: there are no pick Wigglies in Colorado. Everyone please make

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, it's ever too late to get a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I could still do it. Should I

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Speaker 1: You know it's like they only ever have celebrities to

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Speaker 2: like the not necessarily James Charles, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: Speaking of you, like cryptids, Yeah, I do. I love

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Speaker 1: of a snake, yes, named missus Gutierrez.

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Speaker 2: She's got a big, fat ass and she speaks her mind.

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Speaker 1: I love her though I hate snakes, That's okay, But

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Speaker 2: I don't know that necessarily there is a bigfoot, but

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Speaker 2: Like there's a show called Finding Bigfoot, misleading obviously because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that crazy? You did sell a TV show.

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Speaker 1: Say that and go out in the wood.

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Speaker 2: I've been begging you to rub some peanut butter. Don't

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Speaker 1: Geeha, it's gonna leave a steak.

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Speaker 2: I bumped the cup a little bit, and Roz has

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Speaker 1: What happened? There's water all over this clearly any water?

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Speaker 1: Do we need to send Sabrina in there? Oh?

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Speaker 1: By the way, you know what Sabrina will do to

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Speaker 2: I thought we were Latinas and you snitched on me.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny about cryptids. Today. When I

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Speaker 1: Jersey Devil is a famous cryptid.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely Jersey Devil's if that one was spooky. There was

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Speaker 2: a show on Animal Planet called, Oh my God, I

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Speaker 1: Hi, well, speaking of Jersey Devils, did you know that

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Speaker 1: Snooky is going to get her own ghost hunting TV show?

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Speaker 1: Snooky Polizzi, Nicole Snooky Polizi, that's not right, ros I

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Speaker 1: wanted to go through some of the headlines today. I

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Speaker 1: and I like to talk about different paranormal related topics.

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Speaker 1: And here's one for you. I got an article.

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Speaker 1: I got an article from Deadline that says Jersey Shores

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Speaker 1: Nicole Snooky Polizi to star and Paranormal Rookie ghost hunting

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Speaker 1: series for Crave, which I believe is Canadian.

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Speaker 2: And if it's not Canadian, it's for sure LGBT Crave

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Speaker 2: is like Crave is poppers. What is Crave.

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Speaker 1: Crave coming to Crave TV. I think it's Canadian. No,

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Speaker 1: it's Canadian. It says Nicole Snooky Plizi is trading her

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Speaker 1: family vacations at the Jersey Shore for ghost hunting in

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Speaker 1: Craves news series Snooky colon Paranormal Rookie.

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Speaker 2: They're cackling back there, I can hear.

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Speaker 1: The A episode series Center premiere in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: follows the Beloved Meatball, as Deade called her a.

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Speaker 2: Meatball, beloved I beloved, beloved Meatball, and.

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Speaker 1: She pursues her lifelong passion for the paranormal across Canada's

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Speaker 1: most haunted locations. Oh there's a quote from her.

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Speaker 3: I've been ups. I've always been obsessed with the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: It's the real passion of mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is how she talked. Yeh, that's absolutely how

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Speaker 1: I think that's how she sucks, she says.

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Speaker 3: Getting to explore Canada's haunted history with Kevin who's Kevin,

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Speaker 3: and actually learning how to investigate spirits.

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Speaker 1: This is a dream come true. I'm scared, I'm excited. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm ready to prove I can do this. The

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Speaker 1: ghost better watch out because this mama is coming for.

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Speaker 2: Them so much to impact here. First of all, I

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Speaker 2: love anti Italian x rhetoric. I think it's some of

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Speaker 2: the funniest stuff in the world. For them to refer

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Speaker 2: to her as what do they call her, America's meatball,

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Speaker 2: beloved meatball, Okay, America's big Stromboli or whatever the hell?

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Speaker 2: Is such a trip. You got the voice perfect. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: she is what's her face from Little Shop of Horrors?

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Speaker 1: Oh, she's like, I'm web ghosts. Yeah, he just touched

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, what does she do?

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Speaker 1: I'm a meat ball? What did they say?

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Speaker 2: What was their euphemism for fucking smashing?

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Speaker 1: Getting smashed by a ghost? Oh? My word, Jim Tanned Laundry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Tann Laundry. That was the name of a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I never watched that show but needed to die.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like I get it. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: this I'm excited for. Here's the thing. Celebrities like this

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Speaker 1: like it's hard because ghost any shows you either have

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Speaker 1: which is why I think people should watch my YouTube

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Speaker 2: My name is Claire Cognisance.

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Speaker 1: Get hook me up with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. She's into psychics, numerology, angel numbers, past life healers,

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Speaker 1: So we probably can't get Katie now.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, you bleep all of it out.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's fine. It came from you. She's

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Speaker 2: She's not going to talk to me. I know that much.

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Speaker 2: She's way out of my league to talk to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think she's going to come out here.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I think that's great. Would you

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Speaker 2: No? I think I just worry they would say something scary.

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Speaker 2: They're not sisters, they're not as well.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not, sometimes these psychics can be a

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: And here's an article I feel like, it's possible we

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Speaker 2: Was I too mean about Katy Perry? No, she didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm a meat ball.

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Speaker 2: America's beswumbolly.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So this is an article from New York Times.

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Speaker 1: It says two Pennsylvania psychics stole over six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, so it says. For nearly a year,

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Speaker 2: You know what, Roz, I love this because they said

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Speaker 1: I'll take the money, right exactly what, having feeling I'd

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Speaker 2: But maybe, in like a grand sense of thing, it

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Speaker 1: Well, it didn't work. She died, but now she's suing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but ah.

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Speaker 2: But the woman who sent what was like thirty grand

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? Did you hear about that? No?

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Speaker 2: Well it's helping, Roz, I'll say that. I think it's

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Speaker 1: I did commercials for them, now, oh yeah, my commercial

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Speaker 1: main target of the scheme, the woman who was convinced

439
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: that she was cursed, and they're keeping her anonymous, so

440
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how old she is. She was a

441
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: longtime customer of a shop offering psychic readings and other

442
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: fortune readings called Jenkintown's Psychic Visions. Detective Jonathan Kelsey an

443
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: investigator for the Prosecutor's office.

444
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: An investigator for the prostitutions?

445
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: Is that a quote from something?

446
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: Oh, but it's fun.

447
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: Investigator for the prostitution.

448
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: Investigative for the prostitution. I'm just thinking for the prostitution.

449
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: Your honor. Well, basically, well, let's see here. When that client,

450
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: who was not named in the court records, called the

451
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: business in September of twenty twenty two, the psychic miss

452
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: Marks answered the phone and identisified herself as Naomi, stating

453
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Speaker 1: that she had taken over the business from the previous owner. Okay,

454
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: so basically they just kept they just kept getting more

455
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: and more money.

456
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: Ever so, so she was like lying about her identity.

457
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, to lift the curse.

458
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty bad.

459
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: They said, well, we need more money. You know. They

460
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: kept being like, Oh, if you really want this curse gone,

461
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get us those two tickets to

462
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: Aerosmith or whatever.

463
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want this curse gone dream on? Wait, that

464
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: makes me think of something. You have tickets to Aerosmith.

465
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: Walk this way there. It is so basically yeah, this

466
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: poor woman, but it's very sad. Now, how much for me?

467
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

468
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: Once thirty dollars have been spent and the curse is

469
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: still there, I'm moving on to the decks like exactly.

470
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I would spend I guess the

471
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: curse would have to be very bad. I would have

472
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: to be like puking up like rats. You know what

473
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: I mean. If I was puking up rats, then I

474
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: would go see a curse doctor for sure.

475
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: But then missus Gutierra is your snake wick.

476
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's a benefit.

477
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a mama bird.

478
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I hear you.

479
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I started getting real shady. So

480
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: ms Mark started asking the client to send her photos

481
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: of herself and family and other people, and then she

482
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: threatened to do reputable reputational damage and personal repercussions. So

483
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: she started being like and then she's like, you need

484
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: to give me money, a chanel bag and property from

485
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: this other client. Wow, I guess there was another client

486
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: involved in this.

487
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: Do you think that some people are paypigs and they

488
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: just don't understand that they're pay pigs.

489
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: I've heard about this before. So these are people. Those

490
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: are people that are like, take my money.

491
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, paypigs are like mistress, mistress, I'm sure you want

492
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: an allowance and then you like call him a piece

493
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: of shit and you're like, give me a dollars, I'm

494
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: gonna buy shoes.

495
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Does your TikTok? Do you get tons of men that

496
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: DM you saying stuff like that.

497
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: I used to get more when I had a smaller following.

498
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but these men are constantly like, wouldn't you like

499
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: me to treat you nice? Yeah?

500
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: And some of them literally you don't have to do

501
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: anything sexual for them. It just makes them really horny

502
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: that you're taking their money and they're being scammed. And

503
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: I think some people maybe that scratches an itch and

504
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: they don't recognize it as a kink yet. And so

505
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: miss thing who is anonymous. But by the way, if

506
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: you're being scammed by someone named miss marks, come on

507
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: like she's kind of spelling it out for you in

508
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: her name.

509
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: She missed the mark.

510
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: Well, no, she just like she is a mark, you

511
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

512
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: Oh, a mark. Yeah what does that mean again?

513
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: Someone who you scam? You know this?

514
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: Like, wait, is that true?

515
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: A mark is like a pushover who you can easily

516
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: scam am. I crazy?

517
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: No, You're not crazy, that's right.

518
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

519
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyone named Mark I never thought about, but

520
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: I never like apply that to their name.

521
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

522
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: Wow, very true.

523
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: Sorry, you were in the you were in the mix

524
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: of the story.

525
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Now, I mean that's pretty much yet great, says two

526
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: clients in Pennsylvania. Weren't miss marks First disgruntled together Wait

527
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: wait as I go A YOUP review from April twenty

528
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: twenty four. First, Jenkinton Jenkintown Psychic Visions had a customer

529
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: complaining about being asked to give a woman named Naomi

530
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: a chanel bag. She knew I was at a dark

531
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: place because of the traumatic situation in my life and

532
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: took my weakness and ran with all that's sad. Well,

533
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: of course, it's like these people are like grieving and stuff,

534
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: and it's like that they're so vulnerable.

535
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: Why are you going to a psychic and jankie town

536
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: to begin with? You go to the Jakie toown psychic?

537
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: Hang on, let's call jenkin tough.

538
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Are you calling them?

539
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: What if I did?

540
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: Great? Wait, what are you gonna Let's wait, let's think

541
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: about what you're gonna say.

542
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: First, I'm gonna be like, hey, have a Chanelle Paris

543
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: that I need to get rid of. Is there anybody?

544
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: Because I was going to be like, asked for a reading,

545
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: but then obviously they'd want money and you'd have to

546
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: give them your credit card number over their phone, which

547
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: you cannot do.

548
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: You don't know me.

549
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Wait is it?

550
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah? Hi? I I have a Chanel

551
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: bag that I need to get rid of. And I

552
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: also have this problem where my voice keeps changing.

553
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking for love as well.

554
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: So can you help me? I have so much money.

555
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: I live in a beautiful mc mansion in Sedona, Arizona.

556
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: And I can't find any psychics here.

557
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: But I have a pool and a hairless cat.

558
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: And those are very expensive.

559
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: Very expensive. My mother was an heiress and my father

560
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: was in Raila. My father was in the meatball industry.

561
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: My father was in meatballs.

562
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: My father, I'm a meatball.

563
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: Aris if they aired to a meatball Ford.

564
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Jane, I've never prank Phoe called somebody.

565
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: Oh you're missing out?

566
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: Do you do that often.

567
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: We used to. I used to do it more when

568
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: as a kid, we used to do it in school.

569
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: That was scary.

570
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: I think he'll be fine. He can't call you back.

571
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so sorry. Patton Oswald just texted me, but

572
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: I'll check that later.

573
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: He never text me. What did he say?

574
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

575
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: It's a slur.

576
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: No, don't talk about my friend like that. Okay, I

577
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: got one more for you. Sure, And this is a

578
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: good one.

579
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

580
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Jd Vance. This is from Radar Online and it's about

581
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: jd Vance with UFOs. It says he was just on

582
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: New York Posts pod Force one, which is a podcast.

583
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: This is what he said. Things have been so busy,

584
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: but this is like the crazy person inside of me,

585
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: and there's you know, all of us put on the

586
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: tinfoil hat. From time to time, I wonder like, I

587
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: can't allow myself to become so busy that I spend

588
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: the next three years and I don't get to the

589
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: bottom of this. So I will get to the bottom

590
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: of this, but it's going to take me a little time.

591
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: That's him talking about UFOs, but then he goes on

592
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: to say that he Christian things about it, so he says,

593
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that I do or don't believe it.

594
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that there are things out there

595
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: that we can't explain. If another person sees an alien,

596
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: maybe I see an angel or a demon. I think

597
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: there are spiritual forces working on the physical world that

598
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: a lot of us don't see or understand.

599
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: Right right, Okay, I guess my thing is. Sometimes super

600
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: Catholic or super Christian people are hesitant to believe in intelligent

601
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: aliens because it implies that God did it again, do

602
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Which is very scary for them.

603
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: Because it's like, girl, I don't remember this chapter.

604
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: And yeah the book, where's the chapter about how God

605
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: created the gloopy Gorpians?

606
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: Exactly?

607
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: That's not in the Bible. There are no gloopy Gorpians

608
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: in the Bible.

609
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: There is now on the arc. Yeah, they have no

610
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: gloopy gorpiece.

611
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: They had no creatures from arrival putting their big hands

612
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: on the glass.

613
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Where was the Claire cognix were Where was Claire cognis?

614
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: Where was the Claire cognizance? Where was the constitution your honor?

615
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 1: I think for the prostitution too.

616
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: He's like it could have been an angel or a demon.

617
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think when they did that. You remember

618
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: when they did the whole UFO talk with Senate or whatever.

619
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could I forget the.

620
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: UFO hearings and the UFOs they described were like cubes

621
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: kind of moving in an extra dimensional way. Yeah, that

622
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like a demon or an angel to me

623
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: because in the Bible, angels were like they had the

624
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: head of a hefer, a lion, and a man, and

625
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: they were shaped like wheels and had a million eyes.

626
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: So am I an angel? Yeah?

627
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, describe you to a tea.

628
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: He asked rhetorically. Is it aliens or is it our

629
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: guardian angel, oh God or of force that actively wishes

630
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: to harm us? I don't know the answer to that question.

631
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: What I try to do is say my prayers, be

632
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: a good person and do a good job.

633
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: Okay, tired of him, I'll say that he's not doing

634
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: any of that.

635
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Well, find always someone says that.

636
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like thinking about aliens because it represents a

637
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: form of life that is totally foreign to our planet, right,

638
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: like we are carbon based life forms. But it's actually sometimes,

639
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: if you think about it, the more efficient kind of

640
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: life is a silicon based life form, which is what

641
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people are scared. You look at me

642
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: when you said that silicon based, silicon based life form

643
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: over here. Anyway, a lot of people think AI is

644
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: going to eventually evolve into some sort of silicon based life.

645
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: They can travel through space and we wonldn't even be

646
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: able to like perceive what that looks.

647
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Like, Oh my god, that's so scary.

648
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: Crazy.

649
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: See, but these aliens come down here. You really think

650
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Ice is gonna let that fly?

651
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: Could you imagine the Ice guys who are like, you know,

652
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: their paunches can't even be shoved into their little vests,

653
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: trying to chase around a cube that can like fly

654
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: in every direction and go through walls. They're trying to

655
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: shoot it with guns with masks on. That's the funniest

656
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: thing in the world, Like the cube trying to pull

657
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: the mask off, and they're like squealing like pigs rolling

658
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: around on the ground.

659
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I do think that would be the reality. They'd

660
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: be like, you don't have paperwork, get out of here.

661
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: Show me your papers, and the aliens.

662
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: Like, how did you just do that?

663
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: That? I don't know? It just comes from me.

664
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Are you really an alien.

665
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Wait, that's kind of gaggy.

666
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: Get you imagine that is really scary.

667
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it though, I'm pretty fucked up. You guys.

668
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: That was cool. Thank you can show you a haunted doll?

669
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: Is it the same one from last time? Yeah?

670
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for the dolls are living. This is

671
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: a haunted doll from eBay dot com. Okay, and his

672
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: name is oh mail Doll Jacob Jieha show is Jacob?

673
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: You got it?

674
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Rose? Jacob is currently going for one hundred and twenty

675
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: five usd EU.

676
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Hey what how are you going to give a baby

677
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: a sunburn?

678
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: Hey? That is our vice president. Okay, what we have.

679
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: Here is really early receding hairline.

680
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: I'll see those are plugs. Honey, it's a baby. Here's

681
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: the thing. If you have the option to make a

682
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: doll that's a baby, don't make it look tired.

683
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: Paul Giamanni and John Adams, we see the third picture. Please.

684
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: Oh and he's like raising his hand in a way

685
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: that to me is like, ugh, I got something to say. Yeah,

686
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Like at the town meeting.

687
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: There's something about his prehensile toes. You can tell he

688
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: comes from a species that lives in the trees. Oh good, oh.

689
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: Good, Yeah good.

690
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: They've got a ruler next to him.

691
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Not bensile. Okay, so this one comes with a bio,

692
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: of course.

693
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: Dressed like he works at Freddy's Steakburgers.

694
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: What's that?

695
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: You don't know freddy Steakburgers.

696
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: No, it's what it is.

697
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: It's they make Colorado steak burgers. I don't know if

698
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: it's just it's very delicious Freddy's Custard Steakburgers.

699
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Me Jacob Jacob was around three years old. He is

700
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: the cutest little fella. He always looks sad and lonely,

701
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: even though he definitely isn't lonely. I feel like his

702
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: arms move slightly and his hair definitely changes directions. He

703
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: came to me about a year ago, and lately I

704
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: could definitely feel he was ready to be listed. He

705
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: feels like he could make someone smile. I don't know

706
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: anything about his story. I feel like he communicated with

707
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: the other, just says with the other, okay about that,

708
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: more than he did with me. He loves circus things

709
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: like elephants and watching any circus related cartoons. I feel

710
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: like he may be more open to his next keeper.

711
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: He's just so amazing. He has such a white energy

712
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: all around him. He does Yeah, why.

713
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Is a white energy?

714
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: He communicates with dowsing rods, a pendulum, Yeah, balloon lights

715
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: and flashlights. Please ask all questions before purchasing.

716
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: Here's my initial thought, one of my initial thoughts. Yeah, normally,

717
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: when I think of a haunted doll, I think it

718
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: has to be a certain age for me to kind

719
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: of accept that it's haunted. This seems like one of

720
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: those realistic babies that have kind of popped off in

721
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: the past. I don't know, eight years real babies or

722
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: whatever they're This seems like a real baby, like a human. Yeah,

723
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: like they they make them for what.

724
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: They call those real babies. I think they call them

725
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: real babies.

726
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm not in the community.

727
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: You don't know those real baby real baby.

728
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: You know what I do for living is I'm a

729
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: real baby maker. I make real baby.

730
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: That's an industry.

731
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: It is. It is people make like custom real babies

732
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: and then freaks like to take them out in public

733
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: as if they're real babies. This is one of those.

734
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: You can tell, it's like a lacon real baby, And

735
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: I just don't know if I'm like if I'm an

736
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: ancient demon, right, if my name is like balthro Ghoul

737
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: or something. Am I going to settle in a real baby?

738
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: Or am I going for like a cracked porcelain situation

739
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: from the twenties? You know?

740
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this one has more energy and it's not

741
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: gonna break.

742
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this child and I'm like, he's going

743
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 2: to age into kind of into kind of a swinger,

744
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: kind of a Margueritaville type individual. I'm not getting this

745
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: is haunted necessarily. It's not that I'm going to buy.

746
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: It for you.

747
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: Girl.

748
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do with the one hundred and

749
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars?

750
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: Don't buy that for me?

751
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Okay, well then you should have a lot to say.

752
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: I just think the story. I wish she was more detailed.

753
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: She wasn't very detailed. She was like sometimes his hair moves.

754
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: I have no idea about the other owner.

755
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: Please realize that by adopting Jacob, you are potentially inviting

756
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: a spirit into your home. They are not toys and

757
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: should only be handled by adults. I prefer only adults

758
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: eighteen and over purchased my items. Light a white candle

759
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: to welcome your potential spirit. I do not guarantee you

760
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: this experience.

761
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving sea monkeys, it's giving. Maybe they'll show up,

762
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: maybe they won't, you know, but.

763
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: True, you can't legally sell intangible objects.

764
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: I wish it was more haunted. I wish you had

765
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: had more lore to it.

766
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, well he likes the circus.

767
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is that haunted or is that just like charming?

768
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, people love the circus, or they do now

769
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: that they've stopped abusing elephants. Thank you, thank you?

770
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Do you know I wasn't a circus as a kid, hunchback?

771
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: What will? What?

772
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: Were you in the circus?

773
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: Tired over it? Overwork? Under? See you being in Cirq

774
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: day Slay as like cirqu day Salet.

775
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: Let me finish. I'm gonna make you look so good.

776
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: I could see you being in Cirq Day's Lay as

777
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: the woman who comes out and she just like she's

778
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, She's just like making

779
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: noises and she's singing like really beautifully, and she's like pointing,

780
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: and then acrobats are spinning around and stuff the singing

781
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: lady or one of the charming.

782
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Hunchbags, the charming hunchbacks all right, Cirque day Silai, would

783
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: you buy this doll? He's in my home right now?

784
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: Is he really? You didn't?

785
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't buy him.

786
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: I would not know because your standard for like a

787
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: haunted object is much higher.

788
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to find out.

789
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: Oh so even if the person insisted it was a

790
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: good ghost inside of that doll, you wouldn't purchase that doll.

791
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Now. I don't want to live with a human, good person.

792
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to live with anybody.

793
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: Okay, amazing, I believe you can.

794
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: I tell you some ghost voices. Yeah, it's time for

795
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: EVP or ev please. Okay, I got two ghost voices

796
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: for you. These are both from YouTube. Right, I would

797
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: like you to tell me what you hear, and then

798
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: I will tell you what the person that posted it

799
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: believes the ghost is saying. Okay, This first one was

800
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: posted by Space Coast Paranormal Society. I don't know the

801
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: location of this one, but what is this ghost saying? Vinnie?

802
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 2: Can I hear a woman? Time?

803
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: Of course, you can move the camera, Vinnie. Well, that

804
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: is not what Spaceical Paranormal Society thought. Oh did they

805
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: think it was a oh cute hair, b I'm not scary.

806
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: See you really don't care? Or d Claire cognizance.

807
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: Uh I think they think it's probably ce.

808
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: You really don't care. Yeah that's what they think. Yeah,

809
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: that is what they thought. All right, here's another one.

810
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: This is from South Yorkshire Paranormal so eight three seven three.

811
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: And okay, so we have to factor in the accent.

812
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: This is Yorkshire.

813
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh god, you're so good for Okay, what is this

814
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: ghost saying? Okay, it's real quiet, it's really quiet.

815
00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: Oh he's saying bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, you beat

816
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: you're a bitch.

817
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, here's some options.

818
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: That's Daisy from Dalt Nobby saying bitch.

819
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: Is it a oh pinch pinch o oh pincha is

820
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: it b you bitch's be could be other things?

821
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: Okay, is it c you betcha? Oh no, it's or d.

822
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: You little page like oh you little peach?

823
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: That's too long?

824
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: You little?

825
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Do they call people peaches across the pond? Oh it's bitch,

826
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: it's so bitch.

827
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah it is. It's you bitch is what

828
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: they believe in said? Let me play it again, you bitch? Alright?

829
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: Any last thing. Okay, I'm gonna ask you just some

830
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: of your thoughts on different things and a sort of

831
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: like in this conversation. Yeah, we did talk about UFOs

832
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: for a second, but what do you.

833
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: Think about UFOs? Yeah, I think it's impossible that there's

834
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: not life on other planets. I don't think it's possible

835
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: that there's not. I think when you think about the

836
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: size of the universe, it's super unlikely that they visit us.

837
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: But it's also totally likely that they would arrive in

838
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: a form that we don't even recognize as life. Right.

839
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned silicon based life before. It might be something

840
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: that we view as like sedentary, Right, that could land

841
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: and we just think it's a rock, But that could

842
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: be a form of life. It could also exist on

843
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: a timescale that we're not familiar with, right, Like we

844
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: have our set lifespans, But there could be organisms that

845
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: live for such a long time and move so slowly

846
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: that we can't even perceive them because they're just on

847
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: a totally different life scale. You know. I definitely don't

848
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 2: think aliens are bipedal. I don't think they resemble people

849
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: at all. And if they did, then there is a

850
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: god and he seated different planets with life, and that

851
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: there's a set just has a lot of philosophical implications

852
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: that there's a set path that life must continue on

853
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: to achieve some sort of similar form.

854
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: But you mean that you think that means that there's a.

855
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: God if ether. If we discover that there are aliens

856
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: and they're like bipeds and they have eyes and a mouth,

857
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: then that that must mean that there's some sort of

858
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: design or some sort of intention behind That would be

859
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: such a massive coincidence. I don't think it's possible, really, right, I.

860
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Mean, I guess, so.

861
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: Think about everything that had to go right for humans

862
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: to evolve on Earth. You know, we the first amphibians

863
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: like Tiktolic emerge from the water, and so from there

864
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: you have the like synapsids, the like reptile, you know,

865
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: mammal kind of animals. Missus gutierres Kutierrez, who's actually a

866
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: squad mate. She comes much late. But sorry, queen, it's

867
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: just squaw may she's a squaw mate. She's in squamata squamata,

868
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: some squamalta with the lizards.

869
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds delicious. And then take the squamata with

870
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: my strom boats take.

871
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: Model with Stromboli. At one point, humans almost went extinct too,

872
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: which a lot of people like don't necessarily think about.

873
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: But there was like a population of us that left

874
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: Africa and almost all of them died out, and then

875
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: another population left and then we're descended from that population genetically.

876
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: So for all of that to have lined up and

877
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: gone right here and then on another planet, it's like, Okay,

878
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: someone is in charge. Then like someone someone is making

879
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: bipeds in their kind of rough image, whether it's God

880
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: or it's a super intelligent being that we're not aware of.

881
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Totally possible.

882
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, but canna just be like every every place

883
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: where organisms like us can exist, they do.

884
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but would they I mean, would they end up

885
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: looking like us?

886
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: Like, No, they're a little bit different. They got bigger eyes, Like.

887
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: Oh, they got slightly bigger eyes. They're just like kind

888
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: of Zoey Deschanel. They're just got like beautiful, big charming eyes.

889
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: No, they're like aliens.

890
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: I think here's another good point. Dinosaurs went extinct here, right,

891
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: Dinosaurs had been on the planet for one hundred millions,

892
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: for like tens of millions of years, right, and then

893
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: an asteroid came out and wiped out the dinosaurs. If

894
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: that asteroid never arrived, humans would not have then evolved

895
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: from the like tiny shrew like mammals that were living

896
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: in the shadow of dinosaurs. The only reason mammals have

897
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 2: developed and like thrived on Earth is because the dinosaurs

898
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: went extinct. Yeah, so for that to happen on another planet, right,

899
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 2: there are these huge giant animals that then an asteroid

900
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: wipes out and then a little primate evolves and then

901
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: they turn into a biped just like us. That's crazy.

902
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: That just wouldn't be possible.

903
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's all crazy. I think that specific fact

904
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: that the Earth is just floating, that's crazy.

905
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: The Earth is not floating. But you know, the Earth

906
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: is not floating, and what is it?

907
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: It stuck?

908
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: The Earth is like in the sun. The sun is

909
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: we're in the Sun's orbit, the Sun is pressing down

910
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: on space time.

911
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: Or the Earth is just sitting there. And that's crazy.

912
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's crazy.

913
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: Yes, did I says a stupid no?

914
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I like it is floating there,

915
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: that's gaggy.

916
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: It's just sitting there. Yeah, te the Sun is just

917
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: sitting there. Yeah, it never thinks to just you know

918
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: what today Today, I'm going to bump in bump into

919
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: another planet.

920
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, at one point something did bump

921
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: into Earth, and that's how we get the moon.

922
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: Also crazy, that's that's how we got Snook, and.

923
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: That's how we got a big lasagna bumped into the

924
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: Earth and broke Snooky right off. And now just gonna

925
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: have a shoe.

926
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: That's exciting.

927
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

928
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: That was very educational for the show. Sorry, no, it

929
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: was good. We need that from time to time. What

930
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: if they're by penal.

931
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: If they're by penal, that's a different story then, honey,

932
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: I'll be busy. If they're by penal, I'm going immediately.

933
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm having a conversation with Elon Musk and I'm heading

934
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: there right now. Absolutely.

935
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask another one.

936
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: All right?

937
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: Astrology?

938
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're into it, that's it. I don't know. Sometimes

939
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm not into it, and then sometimes I'm very into it. Right, Like,

940
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: it's not something I thought about until I moved to

941
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: LA mostly because I'm a cancer allegedly.

942
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: Such a cancer.

943
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: You think I don't know.

944
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about any of them. Neither do I.

945
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm shocked. You don't know anything about it.

946
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Okay, but no, I don't know that kind of stuff.

947
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: I don't think I behaved like a cancer. But then

948
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 2: I told someone that and they were like, oh, check

949
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: your other things, like you're you're Luno watch I'm a

950
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: call it and you're rising who done it? And I

951
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I'll look at that. And I give

952
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: them the chart and they were like, okay, this all

953
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: lines up because actually you're you're a gemin e troll.

954
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: You're yes, And I was like, okay, I guess that

955
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: works that a speragus is in orbit and you're asparagus

956
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 2: is in the water. Like it just doesn't make any.

957
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: Sense, but so you're a Fire's fine.

958
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes someone will say something that really resonates and I'm like, okay,

959
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: maybe I'm into it. Yeah, But then someone will say

960
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: something it's just totally off base and I'm like, never mind.

961
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: So just like etymuse, I think, so you just you.

962
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: Don't put a lot of weight into it.

963
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: No, but I always sound like a dick with like

964
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: you sound like you sound like a dick. If you

965
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: go into a room and you're like I don't believe

966
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: in this. I know, like it's very like I'm an atheist,

967
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, like, who cares? That's like not the fun

968
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: choice to make.

969
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: It isn't fun. Yeah, at the end of the day, it's.

970
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: Not fun being serious. But I'm glad we are.

971
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: Okay. You know what is fun? What not fucked up

972
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories?

973
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: Do you have any not fucked up conspiracy theories that.

974
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: You believe in? Be is there anything that I feel

975
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: like you would probably have? Some about animals or something?

976
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I.

977
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Mean it can be a little fucked up. I'm just

978
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: talking like, no, not QAnon, Like I don't want like that.

979
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: Are they talking in your hair?

980
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Did they say QAnon?

981
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: No?

982
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: No, But I'm just saying, like we I do think

983
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: that people on the left need to reclaim conspiracy theories.

984
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Is something fun again? And not like these people are

985
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: eating babies. I mean I think eating babies.

986
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. The big one that I think everyone believes in

987
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 2: is the government killed JFK.

988
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: No, that was a close one. Was a close one,

989
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: so close. Yeah, well that is one that people.

990
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: I think everyone says that though. Do I have conspiracy theories?

991
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: The alien one? I don't know if it's conspiracy theory,

992
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: but I do believe aliens are there and the government

993
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: is familiar with them. But I don't think that's conspiracy anymore.

994
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: They like set it, you know.

995
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Do you believe that there's like like the Illuminati.

996
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are societies like there's one specifically that's in

997
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 2: I think NorCal Oh. I forget what this club is called.

998
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: Can you guys look up like society of rich and

999
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: powerful men in Northern California themselves. I don't know what

1000
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: it's called. But it's on a huge like ranch and

1001
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: all the kids who work, they like hire kids from

1002
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: high school to work there because they don't have histories

1003
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: and they know they're not journalists. They drive them out

1004
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: to the location and like blacked out vans. They don't

1005
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: see where it is. Conan O'Brien is in it, Barack

1006
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: Obama was in it. There were a ton of presidents

1007
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: in it. They Bohemian Club, Yeah, the Bohemian Club Grove,

1008
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: literally Bohemian Grove. The Manhattan Project I think was first

1009
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: discussed at a table there, like all these world leaders

1010
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: and things make huge decisions about the world in this

1011
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: one place.

1012
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, are you a member?

1013
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a member. It costs like two hundred and

1014
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars a year or something something extraordinary to

1015
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: be a member. And there's a twenty year long wait list.

1016
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Let's find their number.

1017
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely a rose, I'm not ruining my opportunity.

1018
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: I want to get in there.

1019
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you probably could.

1020
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: Do you have to be a man?

1021
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think you do have to be

1022
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: a man. I think someone who worked there was telling

1023
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: me a story. He has a ton of information about

1024
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: this place. I'm not going to say who it is.

1025
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: It could be anyone, but apparently one guy like a member.

1026
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: Be honest, No, he's not a member.

1027
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: He worked there when he was young. I guess he

1028
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: was serving stuff at a dinner party and some guy,

1029
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: and I forget which guy was, got up, put his

1030
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: cock on the table and said, I love pussy, and

1031
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: like everyone cheered. These are the most powerful men in

1032
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: the world.

1033
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: By the way, there is a number. I'm not even

1034
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: kidding you.

1035
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is. They They literally they would give

1036
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: the drivers who drove, the teenagers who worked there. They

1037
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: would give them different roots so that no one for

1038
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: sure knew where the place was. And like if they

1039
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: communicated about it, they couldn't like assemble. Yeah, so there

1040
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: is I think there are societies like that where people

1041
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: make big decisions of course that most of the public

1042
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: is wholly unaware of. Yeah, I don't necessarily fit. I

1043
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: know if it hits the mark of like the illuminati,

1044
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: but that's basically an illuminati, right. I think sometimes people

1045
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: are looking for zebras when they should be looking for horses.

1046
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: I mean, some people look at zebra'shen they should be

1047
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: looking for horses, Like you're looking for a gilded society

1048
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: where they're underground and a sewer making decisions when really

1049
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: there's this giant club where they are making those decisions

1050
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: that everyone just kind of knows about. But conspiracy there

1051
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: is don't pay attention to for some reason.

1052
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: Okay, last one, Okay, what do you think about?

1053
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: That's it? What do you think about?

1054
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: What do you think about?

1055
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1056
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: What do you think about what happens when we die?

1057
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: This is a kind of a light note to end on.

1058
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would like to think I go

1059
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: to where all of my kind of ancestors go and

1060
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: we like hang out and have fun. But I think

1061
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 2: death changes our form. I mean, there's a quote about

1062
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 2: how everyone is kind of a drop of water that's falling,

1063
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: and that's our life is like being a drop of

1064
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: water and falling, and then when you die, you fall

1065
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: into the ocean and you just become kind of part

1066
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 2: of this whole, and that's life. It's like the drop

1067
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: and then you're in the ocean, and that's it. I

1068
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: don't know what it looks like. I think if you're

1069
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: a raised Christian. I was raised Christian, you're kind of

1070
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: raised with this very conventional idea of the afterlife, where

1071
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: it's like you walk hand in hand on a road

1072
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: and you meet God and he's a person. But the

1073
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: Bible never really describes God as like a man or

1074
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: a person, and it certainly doesn't describe the afterlife as

1075
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: something physical. So I think we turn into a different

1076
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: kind of entity. But I don't have any evidence for

1077
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: any of this. I don't know for sure what happens.

1078
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: I don't think it's nothingness.

1079
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's enough of an answer. Just you think

1080
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: there's something.

1081
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: I think we know we exist, and therefore we know ourselves.

1082
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: Out of existence. What about reincarnation? Is that a part

1083
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: of that?

1084
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that gets into logistics

1085
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: for me that I don't I don't know. Maybe no

1086
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: one knows. They're right right, Like it's the big mystery

1087
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: finding it out. When little kids are like, oh, little

1088
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 2: kids things heaven, you just tell them heaven.

1089
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: Oh. When little kids are like I used to be

1090
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: a comedian named Vinnie Thomas. Yeah, and they're like what

1091
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: And then they're like they like, they're like that comedian

1092
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Speaker 1: that was on Ghosted and then they like google it,

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Speaker 1: and then you start saying things like then like the

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Speaker 1: kids starts saying things.

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Speaker 2: That never happened to me, but I look forward to

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Speaker 2: when it does.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that does that that happens? Is that

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Speaker 1: just a coincidence?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I have no idea. Do you

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Speaker 2: believe you believe in reincarnation? What would you like to

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Speaker 2: be reincarnated as? Or who?

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Speaker 1: I think this is my last one?

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Speaker 2: I think we have Like you think you've achieved enlightenment,

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Speaker 2: you think this is the last to Samsara and you're like, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: what's wrong with that? Nothing's wrong with it, Roz, I'm

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Speaker 2: laughing too much.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna I think this is the babe

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Speaker 1: period and I feel good about it.

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Speaker 2: And then you get to you get to enlighten you're

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Speaker 2: onto the next plane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where can we find you?

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Speaker 2: You can follow me on Instagram and TikTok at v

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Speaker 2: I n N underscore. Ay y, that's at.

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Speaker 1: V I n N underscore a y y very good content.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Did you learn anything, ros I did?

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Speaker 2: I learned about maybe one of the ugliest dolls I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Way he was talking about me when he said that

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Speaker 1: that was wait a second, one of the ugliest dollars over.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Davetti. We caught you up on

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Speaker 1: some of the most important pressing news these days. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited for Snooky's upcoming show and hopefully we can get

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Speaker 1: her on here to promote it when it comes out.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you watch Paranormal Rookie, hosted by Snookie

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Speaker 1: on Crave All Right, anyway, I love you all, both

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Speaker 1: living and dad. But if I didn't ask you to

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Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has been

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Speaker 1: an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience

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Speaker 1: on the podcast Stories Out Loud and sometimes I'll even

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Speaker 1: call you, so email me at Ghosted by Roz at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. You can send a DM or voice

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Speaker 1: message to the show's Instagram at Ghosted by Roz. Give

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Speaker 1: us a follow while you're there, and follow me Roz

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at roz Hernandez, and on TikTok and Twitter

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Speaker 1: at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the startling

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Speaker 1: Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This

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Speaker 1: episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi.

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Speaker 1: My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kottner. My theme

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Speaker 1: music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork

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Speaker 1: by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgo Griff, the Spooky

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Speaker 1: Georgia Hard Start, and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen to

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Speaker 1: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.