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Speaker 2: His way up with Angela Yee and the timing for

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Speaker 2: this guest is impeccable. Angel Massey is here from Real

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Speaker 2: House as a Potomac. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Yes, me too, girl. I want to ask you. Let's

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Speaker 2: turn up through the interview like this, Okay, what did

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Speaker 2: you envision when you joined the cast this season? And

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Speaker 2: then we'll talk about what actually happened? But what was

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Speaker 2: your thoughts when you're like, Okay, it's going.

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Speaker 1: To be this, Well, you know what, I thought that

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Speaker 1: You know. Of course being shady comes along with the territory, right,

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Speaker 1: so I expected some lady shade, but I really expected

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Speaker 1: to kind of be a bridge between people, and clearly

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Speaker 1: that didn't happen. I'm the mote.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting to me because I see

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Speaker 2: and I know like you. You're an entrepreneur, you have

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Speaker 2: a home in Colorado that has been featured. You've also

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Speaker 2: and I'm a median girl journalism. Yeah, so I figure

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Speaker 2: it's so different when you get in there and you

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Speaker 1: No, And I think that the number one rule in

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Speaker 1: I think that I think that when that happens, it's

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Speaker 1: guess the other ladies perceive you. And that's not true.

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Speaker 1: And one thing that I have learned where housewives are

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Speaker 1: and they're even gonna make shit ups give the language.

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Speaker 1: So I think that you just have to have thickcker

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Speaker 1: if you don't like somebody, you can just go off

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Speaker 1: But you party, but you meeting up for bruns, you

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Speaker 1: meeting up for dinner to fight, You meet to fight,

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Speaker 2: It's not just when it happens, it's also the aftermath

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Speaker 1: That's like the point. I hadn't watched the season until

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Speaker 2: So oh yeah, because you get to hear people's conversations

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they talked about you a lot.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I had about a decade ago,

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Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate that, but me and Tia have already

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Speaker 2: And they also said your husband Bobby didn't want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said we'll get there when we get there.

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Speaker 2: It's very naves me feel that it's a party. You

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing I agree with you. I had had.

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Speaker 1: What you didn't see is that two people had called

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Speaker 1: So we were running behind. Yeah, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: they just wanted my ass to arrive early so that

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Speaker 2: You feel like this is a hazing, you know, just

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Speaker 2: this being your first season. It's like, okay, because one

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Speaker 2: want to get to know the ladies better. I want

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Speaker 1: Well I did, Okay, I really did, and I tried hard,

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Speaker 1: to get to know them, I wouldn't have invited them

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Speaker 1: it's only forty four minutes of the show, so you

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Speaker 1: don't get to see scenes where I'm one on one

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, she is Ashy. She is Ashy Ashy Ashley.

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Speaker 2: And this is the realtor that, according to them, one

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Speaker 2: Because that's not fair because it also made her seem unprofessional.

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Speaker 1: paying outside like puppies. I mean, come on, Giselle, you

433
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: cannot say all you have to say when you were

434
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: the type of host to leave somebody's name off of

435
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 1: all the gifts you gave them Anievas, don't don't let let's.

436
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 2: Not do that, all right, But so did you give

437
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: them a heads up that they were staying in a

438
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 2: different place or where they caught off guard?

439
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't tell them that they were staying

440
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: at my house, but I didn't explicitly say you're staying

441
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: at another house. But I think that I thought that

442
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: that was implied. But perhaps I could have communicated that better.

443
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: But I invited them to Colorado, not come stay at

444
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: my home. You'll come to my home, but not stay

445
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: at my home.

446
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: So Ashley and Gizelle ended up having to share a room. Yes,

447
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: but we see in the trailer for the next episode,

448
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: Gizzelle is going to book her own place.

449
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 1: Yes she does, she does, Okay, she does.

450
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: So what does that mean for the relationship moving forward

451
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: after that?

452
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: Is? You know what, now that I have seen the episodes,

453
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: there is no relationship. I have seen how she has

454
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: talked about me behind my back. I have seen how

455
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: she has apologized and and then gone right behind my

456
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: back and talked about me. I've seen how she wished

457
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: ill and terrible times on my trip. I've seen how

458
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: she has acted behind my back. And people are asking,

459
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: why do you come from Wendy? Why do you come

460
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: from Wendy instead of Gazelle and Ashley. The one thing

461
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I can give Wendy credit for is that she acted

462
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: funky a little bit to my face and I couldn't

463
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: figure out what it was. But that's because she couldn't

464
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: hide that she was talking about me behind my back.

465
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: With Ashley and Giselle, they acted perfectly cool, perfectly normal

466
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: to my face until they were ready to flip on

467
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 1: me with fake information that they had supplied by Wendy.

468
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: So I think that it was hard for me to

469
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: act in real time until I had actual evidence that

470
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: they were treating me crazy.

471
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 2: So what about Ashley? What are your thoughts on her now?

472
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: After watching everything?

473
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: Not a fan of Ashley, what do you think.

474
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: About her dating series's son.

475
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: I think that it is really out of pocket. I

476
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: understand having a smooch, well, I think that she had

477
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: more than smooch because on Watch What Happens Live she

478
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: said that she thought charae I mean not Charie Charise

479
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: was gonna catch her on the ring camera and kind

480
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: of that's gross, Like, first of all, if you really

481
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: were feeling her son, then why couldn't you come like

482
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: a woman before you did something, or maybe right after

483
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: the first kiss, and said, hey, this is what happened.

484
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: It didn't have to turn into a storyline. You should

485
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: have had more respect for her than that. You have

486
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: known her for a long time. I saw where on

487
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: Giselle's podcast she says that Charise used to call Ashley

488
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: her daughter in law. Well, if that was the case

489
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: and it was really going to happen, then she should

490
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: have felt comfortable enough to come to her, but instead

491
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: she did it behind her back. She has seen this

492
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: man since he was young, and what I know from

493
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: having a niece around his age is that the maturity

494
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: level is not the same as someone my age. It's

495
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: just not. And so you need to ask and find

496
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: out if she's comfortable with that, rather than doing a

497
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: gotcha in front of friends and family at an event.

498
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 1: This was an event for kids. Yeah, what will make

499
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: you think that that was the appropriate time to say

500
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: this and to divulge this information. And I'm telling you

501
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: I was right there in his face. He was mortified,

502
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh was he?

503
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: Because I saw Stacy was like I would have taken

504
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: that to the grain.

505
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: I agree with her. I would have never said a

506
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: damn thing about it. And you know, it's giving. I

507
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: don't know, it's given something that it shouldn't give. It's given.

508
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: Kind of weird now, and I will say this, she's

509
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: thirty seven, right, he's twenty seven. But it's the fact

510
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: that she didn't know him, yeah, from when he was young.

511
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: And it's also a little different when it's like your

512
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: friend's kid.

513
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different because you know, she's thirty seven, he's

514
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: twenty five. And so if it happened what two to

515
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: three years ago, so this man was twenty two. I mean,

516
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: come on, my niece is twenty two right now. It's

517
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: like it is literally like me like being like, damn, Aris,

518
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: who is your classmate? You know what I mean.

519
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that sounds creepy, this sounds weird. Say

520
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: it's not illegal, it's just yeah, but you know, just

521
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it's not kind of

522
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: creepy and morally suspect. Now, how do you feel looking

523
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: back and we've everything that's been happening with Wendy and Eddie,

524
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on that?

525
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: None? It is shocking based off the fact of who

526
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: she presents herself to be and how highly she speaks

527
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: of herself and everything that she's done for herself in

528
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: her life, and nothing's to be taken away from her

529
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: full degrees. But I think that you wouldn't think that

530
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: someone like that would encounter those type of problems. And

531
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: so I am willing to wait and reserve judgment until

532
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: she has her day in court because I'm not like

533
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: her and willing to make light of her misery.

534
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: So you guys did have a conversation. What was said

535
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: that you and Wendy like that? You know that you

536
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: gave her the whole downstairs with her own room, and

537
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: I you.

538
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: See throughout the season that I really tried to mend

539
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: fences with her. I mean, do you think.

540
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: It's that her and Kay don't get along? That maybe

541
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: made you have your own preconceived notion.

542
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: See, the one thing is that I'm not like that.

543
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: I told Kay. You see in the scene where me

544
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: and Kay are walking along the canal. I tell her,

545
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: just talk to her. You see me in the scene

546
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: where Kay is having her event and her SPA and

547
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: I say, well, how do you know something didn't happen

548
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: to her kids? And you know, I get ding, don't

549
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: I get chin checked for that? You know what I mean? Yeah?

550
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: And so you see me. You don't get to see

551
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: me go to Wendy's house, but I drove two hours

552
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: from where I was in Potomac to where she was

553
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: almost at the Pennsylvania state line to meet her and

554
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: her lovely children and her husband. And then you see

555
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: the next day she does what I feel like is

556
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: a party foul because she still doesn't know me like that,

557
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: and gets between me and Kay having this resolution right

558
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: at the end, right, but even then at Preakness when

559
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: we arrive, I tell her, I come up to her,

560
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: I talk to her by herself, and I say, listen,

561
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: if I missread your energy, I apologize, But it felt

562
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: like you were coming from me. We didn't get to

563
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: see that on the season, unfortunately, but that's something that happened.

564
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: But then after that, it's almost like she was never

565
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: able to let go of what she perceived to be

566
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: a slight right. I'm not a woman who tows the line.

567
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: If you don't like me or how I present myself

568
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: based off of who I am, that's that's like not

569
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: my problem, you know what I mean. And so throughout

570
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: the season, I make these over chers to try and

571
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: get along with her. But watching it back, I feel

572
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: dumb as hell because I see every chance she gets,

573
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: she's saying something nasty about me behind my bag, something

574
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: truly nasty, And so I want to like, why fake

575
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: the funk? Just say everything that you had to say

576
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: behind my back to my face? Which did you want

577
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: to wait until the reunion? Like I don't understand the energy?

578
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: And so her having this whole narrative Angels obsessed with

579
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: me and Angel will talk about me, how I mean this,

580
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Angel will do this and this and that. I think

581
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: that that is really her. That's just a red heiring, Like.

582
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Do you think because I've seen people say that they

583
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: felt like Kay wasn't taken up for you enough, what

584
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: are your thoughts about that?

585
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: Watching I think that I'm a grown woman, and I

586
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: think that I can take up from myself, and I

587
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: think that not every friendship is the same, and I

588
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: think that when she needs to take up for me,

589
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: she does, and vice versa. And I think that people

590
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't try and put their standards of friendship on ours

591
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: because I can stand on my own too.

592
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good, because sometimes you see people's friendships on

593
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: shows like this. We've seen people fall out with each other,

594
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: people who were best friends are not friends anymore.

595
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still tight. I'm not gonna let people that

596
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: I have known for two seconds come between a friendship

597
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: that I've had for so long. I mean, this is

598
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: a woman who did my mother's hair who's no longer here.

599
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: So you're gonna really think that just because somebody has

600
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: something to say about her that I'm gonna drop it. No,

601
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: that has to come from us, and we are better

602
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: than ever now.

603
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Wonderland outdoors and so I

604
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: and I really would have loved for them, you know.

605
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: And I'm sure part of the reason why you did

606
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: this show had to be because you do have a business, right,

607
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: and so we don't want to discount that, because that's

608
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: what it's all about, right. It is supposed to be

609
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: about you kind of talking about what you have going on.

610
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: Why would you be on there without anything to promote.

611
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that wasn't really shown? No, okay,

612
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: so I want to talk about it now.

613
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: No. I shot so much. I shot staff meetings, I

614
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: shot me booking things, I shot me. There were so

615
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: many meetings I have with Bobby because he is my

616
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: co founder, where we're talking about opening Wonderland Atlantic. There

617
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: was so much and unfortunately there's so much, so much time,

618
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I was born talking about that.

619
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just work, it's just business, and

620
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's such a big part of my life.

621
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: Wonderland is. And it's crazy to just watch the show

622
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: back and kind of witness a little bit of a

623
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: rature where who I actually am is concerned because I

624
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: feel like.

625
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't really mentioned at all.

626
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: A big tart of me is that I'm a businesswoman.

627
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: A big part of me is that I waited to

628
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: marry in my thirties because I wanted to fully flesh

629
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: out my career. I waited to have children and tell

630
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: my mid thirties in my late thirties so that I

631
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: could realize my own ambitions. And you really kind of

632
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: don't get to witness that out of me wanderland outdoors

633
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: is has was birthed out of my love of the outdoors.

634
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: And when I was working in media, I created this

635
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: hiking group called Pretty Girls Hiker and we used to

636
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: go out and eat and hike together and just have

637
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: this community. And then Bobby is a huge fisherman, and

638
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: so when we first started dating, one of the ways

639
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: that we would bond would we'd be flying to go

640
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: fishing places. And one of the places that we would

641
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: fly to was Colorado during his football bye week. So

642
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: we would go there, we would fly fish, and we

643
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: would enjoy our time with an outfitter. And we thought

644
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: to ourselves, Hey, one day, why don't we do this.

645
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: You will see a lot of black guys in the outdoors.

646
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: You don't see a lot of black fly fishing or

647
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: hiking guides. And really it was birthed out of the

648
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: idea that we really wanted to get people in the outdoors,

649
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Speaker 1: no matter what they look like, no matter what their race, sexuality,

650
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Speaker 1: color creed, any of that is. We want people to

651
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Speaker 1: be able to experience the outdoors in a luxurious way.

652
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you from New York and so you know,

653
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: it's not that easy for us to have that space.

654
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Speaker 2: But I love about it. I have an airbnb Upstate

655
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 2: New York and the Catskills. I'm gonna show it to you.

656
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of hiking around there.

657
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Speaker 1: Maybe we can.

658
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Speaker 2: Train, let's do it, let's, you know, start something where

659
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: people could take their trips down. Love that luxury space also,

660
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: But that's why I like the entrepreneurship aspect. I do

661
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: wish I would have seen some more of that because

662
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Speaker 2: I also think about like even I'm good friends with

663
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Speaker 2: Don now Rawlings. They go to Yellow Springs, Ohio. He

664
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Speaker 2: bought a house there and now he's out on the river.

665
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Speaker 2: It's like a whole different feeling when you're from these

666
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Speaker 2: urban places, these cities, and then you get to go

667
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Speaker 2: into nature.

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Speaker 1: It is it is like a release. You're able to

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Speaker 1: be yourself. And you know, there's really something in nature

670
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Speaker 1: called fighter kines that trees release and it is tantamount

671
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: to take an anti anxiety medicine. When you smell it,

672
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: your nervous system automatically kicks into that rest and digest

673
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: and you are able to really just calm yourself and

674
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Speaker 1: be yourself and really be embodied. And that's the part

675
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Speaker 1: of the reason why I wanted to take these ladies

676
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Speaker 1: to Colorado. I wanted them to explore that with me

677
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: and to feel good. But kind of like Gizelle says,

678
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: she doesn't like peace and calm, she likes mess, you know,

679
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: And so you kind of see that playing out over

680
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Speaker 1: the course of this Colorado trip. They don't even really

681
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Speaker 1: allow me to show my business because they are with

682
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Speaker 1: the Shenan against the entire time.

683
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's one part where you guys are meditating. Yeah,

684
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Speaker 2: and I want to talk about that scene because that

685
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: was an opportunity for people, but it felt like people

686
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: weren't taking it that serious one and it was.

687
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: Very disrespectful because this is a show, yes, but Bianca

688
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: is our head movement guide. She does work with us.

689
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: I do employ her for different opportunities for Wonderland, and

690
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: so I was kind of embarrassed by them, to be honest,

691
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: because this is a woman, an indigenous, this woman who

692
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: is sharing her healing and her practice with you, and

693
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: you're being disrespectful by talking and getting up and shifting

694
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: and moving and doing all the different things. And it's

695
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Speaker 1: not in an effort to be grounded in the experience.

696
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: It's in an effort to be disrespectful, and that says

697
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Speaker 1: a lot about their character, it really does.

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Speaker 2: And they also been like, well, why aren't you sitting

699
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: on the floor with us?

700
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Speaker 1: Because I was trying to give them.

701
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Space, right, You're like, I do this, Yeah, this is

702
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to try something different.

703
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I could have sat down, but then what

704
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Speaker 1: are they going to do? Stand? I was actually being

705
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Speaker 1: a good host.

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Speaker 2: See, I'm glad you clear that up, because the way

707
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Speaker 2: it looks, it looks.

708
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Speaker 1: I was trying to tower over them. But no, it's

709
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: just like a little bitty place for them to be.

710
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: It was really crowded, so I decided to not be

711
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: one of the people who are on a yoga mat. Instead,

712
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: I sat up there a little bit uncomfortable so everybody

713
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Speaker 1: else could be comfortable. And it's crazy how that perception

714
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Speaker 1: can be turned around.

715
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Speaker 2: What do you so, are you feeling like you would

716
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Speaker 2: do another season?

717
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Speaker 1: I am feeling like I am going to be in

718
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: the present moment and see how my feelings are after

719
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: the reunion is over. It's really important to me to

720
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Speaker 1: be honest with myself. We did finally close on our

721
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Speaker 1: Potomac home. Okay, congratulations, Thank you so much, and so

722
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: we are undergoing like that renovation process and we are

723
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: back and forth really really really like a lot now.

724
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Speaker 1: So I just think that I just have to figure

725
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Speaker 1: out what it looks like for me. I have to

726
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: figure out what it looks like for me. Honestly.

727
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Speaker 2: Now, Bobby stayed out the mix pretty much during this season.

728
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: He's just respectful. You know, you don't have who else's

729
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: husband hangs around the girlies. And it would be one

730
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: thing if it was like the other guys were around

731
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Speaker 1: and he was coming to hang out with them while

732
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Speaker 1: we hung out.

733
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Speaker 2: But like, what's he supposed to do though, because we

734
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: don't see the men hanging out together like we might

735
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: see on other shows where they have their own.

736
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Speaker 1: And you know, the guys they have a good rapport

737
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: with each other when they are in person together. But

738
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Speaker 1: what did these women expect for Bobby to come and

739
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: do a key key with them, you know, over some drinks.

740
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: That's not how it works in real life. He's not

741
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna do that. You know, you get to know someone's

742
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: husband by going on double dates or by going to

743
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: brunch all together. And if it's not a situation like that,

744
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna be and I would like to

745
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: ask why every five seconds, Giselle would be like, I

746
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: gotta say hi to Bobby. Let me say hi to Bobby.

747
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Let me where's Bobby?

748
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: Like what he is? Where he's supposed to be with me?

749
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, listen, So let's see what happens when do

750
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: y'all take the reunion? It's coming up, It's coming, It's

751
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: coming up real soon. Okay, smiling, it's going to see

752
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: the girl.

753
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: Look at your face.

754
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: You're like, all right now, but all in if what

755
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: have people that know you in real life? What have

756
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 2: they said to you? Because I know you weren't watching

757
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: it in real time, but what some of the you've gotten?

758
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: They're hurt? Okay, they're hurt because I really promise you,

759
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm the lady who people come to for healing, for

760
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: an ear, for empathy, to hang out with to have

761
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: a good time. Like our house is that house, We're

762
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: that family, We're that hospitable family. And so I think

763
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: that kind of like a quarter of the way through,

764
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: my friends couldn't watch anymore because they were so disappointed

765
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: in how I was being treated. And I don't think

766
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Speaker 1: that anybody anticipated that it would go like that, and

767
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: so you know, they finally did catch up on the

768
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: episodes because they wanted to give me kind of some

769
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: tea for the reunion or whatever. And they are just hurt,

770
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: shocked and disgusted really at the behavior because you can

771
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of hazing here and there. You know,

772
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: I don't have thin skin, despite popular beliefe but the

773
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: constant going at somebody is really unfortunate and it's really,

774
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: as my sister would put it, day class a.

775
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then you have the State of Ease

776
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: podcast that's coming that's coming this month, right, yes, it is.

777
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: So I feel like part of that is because you

778
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: want people to see who you really are. Was that

779
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: something you had planned already or was it just out

780
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: of you being a little frustrated, like.

781
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was something I had planned already. I

782
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: already had a podcast called called Overwilden for a few

783
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: years and overwild and the whole thing was when you know,

784
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: when someone says you wilding out, you know what I mean?

785
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: And then when you're in your thirties, you reached that

786
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: point where you're over wilding out and you want to

787
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: bring that peace and calm in your life. That's what

788
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: that podcast was about. But I also do have like

789
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: a news and culture background, and so I wanted to

790
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: bring something that could marry my mindfulness with news and culture.

791
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: And basically that's what that show is. Think Brene Brown J.

792
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: Shetty kind of putting a mindful lens on the events

793
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: of today.

794
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, the world is very crazy today.

795
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: I just want to say I was in Saint Crai

796
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: January theory, was my birthday, and what happened on January

797
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: third we found out that the president Bomba Isabella Louela.

798
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: Were you afraid to come? Like how I was coming back?

799
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: Coming back?

800
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: Actually by the time I left on the fifth, right, Yeah,

801
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 2: so the everything was back open again. The airspace was closed.

802
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: But I will say I didn't know. I don't and

803
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: I still don't know. I'm still a little apprehensive about

804
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: like what's about to happen. Yeah, because you know where

805
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: I'm in New York, You're near d C. And those

806
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: are prime locations for something to go down, if it's

807
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: going to go down.

808
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: And it's it's scary because you have this president who

809
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: understands that a part of being a president is the

810
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: checks and balances, right, Congress is the voice of the

811
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: people that he understands that well, maybe he understands but

812
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: doesn't care, you know what I mean. He's given Congress

813
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: a big middle finger right now. Congress is supposed to

814
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: be our voice to have a say in what happens.

815
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Speaker 1: He's not supposed to just unilaterally.

816
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: Go to dictatorship, which is exactly what he's supposedly against exactly.

817
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: But you know, here we are and it's scary. And

818
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, my niece just left on her trip to

819
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: Brazil for school. My nieces at University of Maryland on

820
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: a full academic scholarship. Shout out to her. But she's

821
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: going overseas for a study abroad. And it's really just

822
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: creating a sense of unwellness and disease where being an

823
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: American citizen is concerned, because you hope that people don't

824
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: think that you're up for like I shouldn't like to

825
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: do that wasn't me. So you know, it's hard to

826
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: be like it ain't me doing it. Yeah, you know,

827
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: you get painted with the same brush. So I'm hoping

828
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: that I can help give people a little bit of

829
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: calm and ease through this show and to help them

830
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: understand what are the different things that they can do

831
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: to digest the news and to stay embodied even when

832
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: so much crazy shit is happening around them.

833
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: So for people that are watching right now and they're like,

834
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm interested in this whole outdoor experience, break it down

835
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: for them, Like, what are some of the activities that

836
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: are available? I looked on the website already, so I

837
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: had a chance to see some of the packages and activities.

838
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: But let people, you know, like, what can they kind

839
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: of sign up for? What can they expect?

840
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: So Wonderland Outdoors is a mindful outfitter, and basically what

841
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: that means is all of our guides guide with intention.

842
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: They're going to be paying attention to you on time,

843
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna know details about you, and they're gonna tailor

844
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: the trip to who you are and your skill level.

845
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: We offer fly fishing, horseback riding, mindful hiking, and a

846
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: food by fire experience by chef Bobby that includes like

847
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: a beautiful long table and the outdoors a violinist. I mean,

848
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: it's just like Wagoo Tomahawk's Steak. It's a really nice

849
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: experience and we made it a luxury outfitter because we

850
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: know some people don't like to be in the outdoors,

851
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: but adding that luxury element, it just draws people in

852
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: and maybe one day they won't mind being in a dirt,

853
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: you know.

854
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: So let's ease into let's ease into it exactly.

855
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: They can log on the Wanderland Outdoors dot com and

856
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: they can book online, or they can log on the

857
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: Wonderland Outdoors and give us a call where a concierge

858
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: will answer and they will book their trips special for them. Okay, well,

859
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: I love it.

860
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for coming up. I am

861
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: so glad that you cleared up a lot of things because,

862
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: like you said, it's forty four minutes. You filmed a

863
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: lot of things, and I feel like we saw like

864
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Speaker 2: some conversations, but where's the resolution or you know, what

865
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: happened there? There was the catfish conversation was so nasty.

866
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: You're very beautiful.

867
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: Thanks you so much.

868
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: I just want to say, sitting here looking at you

869
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: and persitiate.

870
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: You, queen, I want to say this, I wish looking back,

871
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: but I had just let it roll off my shoulders,

872
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: but I was I was actually hurt, Like what you

873
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: saw is a human being taken aback because that's not

874
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: normally what I have a dinner conversation about to this

875
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: woman who I had hoped to have a better relationship with. So,

876
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you see me kind of talking about it

877
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: at nauseum one because I asked about it a million times,

878
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: but do because I'm like, damn, like, what the fuck

879
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: was that? You know? Yeah?

880
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: All right, Well, look, I'm hoping that everything goes smooth

881
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: and that we see you back again.

882
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, We'll see.

883
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: I want to say. A lot of people were like, Okay,

884
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: that's the angel we need to see on this latest

885
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: episode because you had the little shade.

886
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I know that a lot of people

887
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: think that I am not housewife material, but I need

888
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: people to be a little more open minded because not

889
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: every housewife is a monolith and I am who I

890
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: am and is a housewife no, actually a house Yeah

891
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: you know, so there we go. I mean, but it

892
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: has been a pleasure talking to you. Are wonderful. Your

893
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: energy is beautiful. Thank you.

894
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I love it, and I'm very interested

895
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: in trying this outdoor experience.

896
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Come on us, we will bring we will do a

897
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: multi day experience. We're actually doing a campaign with the

898
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: Colorado Tourism Board this month to invite some influencers out

899
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: to do some experiences. But I'd love to have you

900
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Speaker 1: during the summer because that is the beautiful time. Okay,

901
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm in come, come on out, make a girl friend.

902
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: That's not my house.

903
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that was not my house.