Speaker 1: Heyba fam, we are five years into making this podcast
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Speaker 3: We're black and brown.
Speaker 1: Hey mandra Hey, Happy Brown Ambition Monday or Wednesday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when do we tape, when do we record? It's all
Speaker 1: blurring together.
Speaker 3: It is all a blur.
Speaker 1: How are ya you know I'm doing okay. I'm technically
Speaker 1: on vacation this week, and by technically, I mean I
Speaker 1: put on my vacation responding email out of office email.
Speaker 1: But then I accidentally answered some emails today because they
Speaker 1: seem really important. I'm kind of I'm struggling to unplug,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna It's only Monday. I have the whole
Speaker 1: week to like get my act together and relax. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying. It's so hard.
Speaker 2: I was having a good Monday, but then everybody's favorite
Speaker 2: bonus baby, Supergirl, tried it today, so.
Speaker 3: Ba, well, so Supergirl.
Speaker 2: I guess she's like feeling herself. She's thirteen now. And
Speaker 2: for those who don't know, I call my husband Superman
Speaker 2: and my bonus daughter, my stepdaughter Supergirl, and.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, it's been good.
Speaker 2: Remember earlier, if you listened to any earlier brown A
Speaker 2: Vision episodes, you know there was a bit of a
Speaker 2: power struggle when he and I got together and got married, when.
Speaker 1: He got married, when you got married, we got married.
Speaker 1: Y's so cute.
Speaker 3: So, but since then it's been so great. I thought
Speaker 3: everything was amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, So today I guess her mom must
Speaker 2: have come to pick her up. And I went to
Speaker 2: the hallway, and I see a note on her door,
Speaker 2: not just a note, like a piece of construction paper,
Speaker 2: like nicely drawn out and like it literally says, do
Speaker 2: not not is outlined in red do not enter, police exclamation.
Speaker 2: Blinds are already drawn. Already drawn, is squiggly lines or
Speaker 2: green squiggly lines around it. Because I will go into
Speaker 2: her room to open up the blinds, and when she's
Speaker 2: not here, you know, let some air and things. Do
Speaker 2: not enter, please, blinds are already drawn. Who this is
Speaker 2: a kicker. If you need underline underline undernead to get
Speaker 2: in contact with me or my mom, contact with me
Speaker 2: or my mom underline underline thank you, supergirl. This girl
Speaker 2: told me that while she's not here, don't go in
Speaker 2: her room. And if you have to go in my room,
Speaker 2: make sure you call me or my mother. When I
Speaker 2: tell you the way that that sign came down and
Speaker 2: was ripped in half. So I took a picture of it.
Speaker 2: I said this to Superman. Of course he was, you know,
Speaker 2: equally as angry, and then I sent it to her
Speaker 2: mother because I tried to call her, but I forgot
Speaker 2: that she was acting up last night, so we took
Speaker 2: her her cell phone. You know that's why, because I
Speaker 2: was like, she just got here, lead you think, oh,
Speaker 2: that's right. She's pissed to her father for taking her
Speaker 2: cell phone. So I guess that was her way of
Speaker 2: being like, y'all, don't you know, don't come into my
Speaker 2: personal space. But one of the reasons why. I mean,
Speaker 2: first of all, one, I can go anywhere in this
Speaker 2: house obviously, but I only ever go into her room
Speaker 2: really to turn off all the lights and the fans
Speaker 2: and all the things that she leaves on whenever she goes,
Speaker 2: like to her mom's house. So I guess she's like
Speaker 2: because I heard her telling her dad once like, does
Speaker 2: anybody go in my room when I'm away? And I'm like, well, girl,
Speaker 2: if you turned off lights and fans, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: to go in there. And secondly, I can't go anywhere,
Speaker 2: So that's what I told her. So I set a
Speaker 2: screenshot to her mom and said, can you please have
Speaker 2: her call me when she gets a chance. And when
Speaker 2: I tell you, I'm not a voice phraser. I'm not
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not really a fusser of Custer, none
Speaker 2: of that. Like, I taught preschool for ten years, so
Speaker 2: there's like nothing I haven't seen. I mean, kids have
Speaker 2: spit on me, literally tried to knock me out using
Speaker 2: their big noggins. I mean, I've been through it all,
Speaker 2: so I usually have like a lot of patients, and
Speaker 2: I can honestly say, this is probably only the second
Speaker 2: time that I've used elevated volume.
Speaker 3: That's what I'll say.
Speaker 2: With her once when she was like sick and she
Speaker 2: was angry because we didn't get her something from Marshalls,
Speaker 2: and she ran into the street and almost got hit
Speaker 2: by a car.
Speaker 3: So that my good.
Speaker 2: So that was the only other time because I'm not
Speaker 2: I know, I was not really I'm not really a yeller,
Speaker 2: but when I tell you, I'm not going to say
Speaker 2: I yelled, but I was like ring ring rings.
Speaker 3: So she called me hello. I said hi.
Speaker 2: I was waiting to like a heart like, I give
Speaker 2: her a little beat to see she was gonna apologize.
Speaker 3: I said, I saw your sign. She was like mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I said, let me tell you it's the height of disrespect,
Speaker 2: and she was quiet, Like what I said, One, you
Speaker 2: don't get to tell two people who pay the bills
Speaker 2: in this house where they cannot cannot go.
Speaker 3: That's one.
Speaker 2: Two, you don't instruct me or your father to not
Speaker 2: go in your room unless we ask you or your mother,
Speaker 2: I said, because I know her mother was listening. I said,
Speaker 2: as much as I like your mother, she has no
Speaker 2: agency here. She doesn't get to decide in my house
Speaker 2: where I can go, just like I can't tell you
Speaker 2: in your mother's house where she can go. Doesn't that
Speaker 2: sound crazy if you were to tell your mom, hey,
Speaker 2: don't come in my room unless you ask Tiffany. It
Speaker 2: sounds crazy right because it is. And I was like
Speaker 2: the tone I'm music now, I'm like, now, Manny, this
Speaker 2: is a way calmer tone because I was I'm like
Speaker 2: stressed out.
Speaker 3: I was not calm. I was like, what in the
Speaker 3: world when I tell you?
Speaker 2: I was livid because I'm like, You're gonna tell me
Speaker 2: I can't come into this room unless I call you
Speaker 2: or your mom?
Speaker 3: What in the have you?
Speaker 1: You're going to take the door off the hinges?
Speaker 2: No, what I did and said it was like, which
Speaker 2: is not my proudest mom, but whatever. So I made
Speaker 2: sure she could hit my footsteps. I said, you hit
Speaker 2: these footsteps, I'm walking into your room. I'm in here now.
Speaker 3: Now what Petty I did?
Speaker 2: And I'm both ashamed and I don't care because I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you gonna tell me?
Speaker 3: I was like, girl, I can I can sleep in
Speaker 3: this bed.
Speaker 2: And I didn't tell her that, but I was thinking
Speaker 2: about solf I can sleep in this bed if I
Speaker 2: wanted to, Like, I just couldn't believe that. Like it's
Speaker 2: one thing to say, hey, Tiffy, you know, you know
Speaker 2: I you know, even if she would have asked me, like,
Speaker 2: you know, please don't go in my room, I'd be like, girl,
Speaker 2: I'm going to my your room if I want to,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I make it a habit. Obviously I knock
Speaker 2: if she's home to make sure, but typically I just
Speaker 2: go in our room to air it out because you know,
Speaker 2: kids are so stink. But I told her, I said,
Speaker 2: parents can always go and should always go in their
Speaker 2: children's room. I said, because we are doing so to
Speaker 2: make sure that you are safe and that no one
Speaker 2: is harming you or that you're not harming yourself. So
Speaker 2: there is no there's never a time when your father
Speaker 2: and I will not go in your room freely, because
Speaker 2: that is our job to make sure that you're safe.
Speaker 2: So that's first and foremost. And second of all, you
Speaker 2: don't pay a bill in this house, so you don't
Speaker 2: own anything here. You don't get to tell adults where
Speaker 2: to go. And because my Superman and I the whole
Speaker 2: third floor is our floor, because it's like it's like
Speaker 2: a suite or whatever. And so she has this thing
Speaker 2: where she'll just come up because we haven't bought we
Speaker 2: have a washer dryer on the third floor. We haven't
Speaker 2: bought one for the basement yet, so she'll come up
Speaker 2: to do laundry. I was like, aren't you the same
Speaker 2: person who I have to keep reminding that before you
Speaker 2: come up to the third floor to knock, you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, so you're asking for like whatever this is,
Speaker 2: but you don't even give that to us. You just
Speaker 2: come upstairs with wild abandoned. And then I said, the
Speaker 2: fact that you have not apologize speaks volumes, honestly, I
Speaker 2: told her. Once I stopped being like mad, I said,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm really disappointed. I said, it's like fine, sorry,
Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, you're not sorry. And that's okay,
Speaker 2: that's how you feel. But I said, when you do
Speaker 2: something wrong, Because she always complains that her dad apologizes
Speaker 2: so much, I said, you always tell me they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: daddy apologizes too much, And I said, that's him. Apologizing
Speaker 2: is an indication of someone of good character.
Speaker 3: And that's what I told her.
Speaker 2: I said, when you're wrong and you're confronted with your
Speaker 2: mistake and you realize that you're wrong, it is your
Speaker 2: job to make that thing right and to apologize sincerely,
Speaker 2: and the fact that you haven't is very disappointed and
Speaker 2: I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed of the way you're behaving. And
Speaker 2: that's what I could tell. She was like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: that's what I think. Who knows, she might be like
Speaker 2: forget utivity, who knows.
Speaker 1: But I just was like, and I just need to
Speaker 1: take some notes.
Speaker 2: So I just said. I just was just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just you know, And honestly I was. I was
Speaker 2: really because when I tell you, literally, this is the
Speaker 2: first time, other than that time when she was like
Speaker 2: seven and ran in the street, that I've ever used
Speaker 2: elevated an elevated tone.
Speaker 3: I'm usually pretty chill, like.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I know, how to can check a
Speaker 2: kid without like, you know, raising my tone. But I
Speaker 2: just was like, when I tell you, I was like
Speaker 2: hot all over. I just wish I'm gonna text you
Speaker 2: the sign. When I read not underscore underscore, I just
Speaker 2: I was like, who who are you talking to?
Speaker 3: In my house where I paid bills?
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's really hard for me because honestly,
Speaker 1: I was such a brady teenager. I just want to
Speaker 1: tell you it gets worse, I.
Speaker 3: Know, relatify to this day.
Speaker 1: The day that lives in infamy in my house is
Speaker 1: I don't even know what my mom and I thought about,
Speaker 1: but I stormed into my bedroom locked the door. And
Speaker 1: it's one of those flimsy door knobs with like you know,
Speaker 1: you can get like a penny or a nickel or
Speaker 1: something and pop the lock open. And my mom was like, oh,
Speaker 1: hell no, you're not going to lock your door in
Speaker 1: my house. We're still having this argument, and I'm in
Speaker 1: there and I blast, you know, I have big ass
Speaker 1: boom what do you call those big radios used to
Speaker 1: have like boom Baugh with the CD tower and all
Speaker 1: that and the five CD changer not to flex but anyway,
Speaker 1: and I put on Pink Pink's album Misunderstood, and I, oh,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, and I put on just like a pill,
Speaker 1: and I just played the entire album on full, full blast,
Speaker 1: and I put my hand on the knob and twisted it.
Speaker 1: So my mom even though she was trying to like
Speaker 1: get the little locked pop open with like whatever she had,
Speaker 1: like a butter knife or a quarter or whatever she had,
Speaker 1: she could not get in. And we and a poor mom.
Speaker 1: I just all night. It was a huge standoff. It
Speaker 1: was like a hostage. It gets better, You're like, it
Speaker 1: gets word nah. And I wasn't even the kind of
Speaker 1: kid who I mean whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah she was. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Supergirl's not like some old you know, I mean, as
Speaker 2: far as kids go, she's a good kid. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: are there like, you know, definitely attitude issues, yeah, but
Speaker 2: like it's not like she's drinking on the corner, you know,
Speaker 2: But it's just that kind of thing where you know,
Speaker 2: she has a thing about like not apologizing and there's
Speaker 2: definitely like undertones of disrespect. But I told Superman he
Speaker 2: was giddy because he always tells me that, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's like, you never pop off, you know, because I'm.
Speaker 3: Always like well, you know, I'm pretty calm, Like, well,
Speaker 3: he's like behind you, hyping you up. What he was
Speaker 3: so geek.
Speaker 2: Because he always feels like he's the bad guy, and
Speaker 2: I'm always like, well, let's talk about it all right,
Speaker 2: let's you know, Tom, let's be calm, let's remain calm.
Speaker 3: So this is like, you know, the one time he
Speaker 3: was like, oh, Tiphany snacks alone.
Speaker 2: I said to you, I don't know if you have
Speaker 2: your phone off, but I set you so you can
Speaker 2: see for your own eyes, just like the level of
Speaker 2: and so the this one is really smart, the supergirl slick.
Speaker 2: So she tried to say no, I just put that
Speaker 2: sign up there because I'm redesigning my room and I
Speaker 2: wanted to do a reveal and didn't want you to cea.
Speaker 2: I said, girl, So girl, you tried, you tried and failed.
Speaker 2: Just say I'm sorry I was being a brad. Did
Speaker 2: you get a chance to take a look.
Speaker 1: It's just hold on, I'm taking my phone off airplane mode.
Speaker 1: Don't hurt me. And Kelly, there's a little beeping sound.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't get it. Ye, come through, come through. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like teenagers. It's all about wanting to define
Speaker 1: yourself in your territory. And it's just something about that stage.
Speaker 1: You just don't want anything to be associated with your parents.
Speaker 1: You want to carve out your own identity in that room.
Speaker 1: I remember that feeling. I remember that feeling of like
Speaker 1: this is my space, and I basically wanted to piss
Speaker 1: over everything. So I put like collages on the wall
Speaker 1: and wrote on things and just made it my own.
Speaker 1: Even though you're right, I think it was Will Smith,
Speaker 1: and I just always stuck with me. Years ago, maybe
Speaker 1: he was on Oprah or when she used to have
Speaker 1: a TV show and he was talking about how he
Speaker 1: told his kids, you are living in my house for free.
Speaker 1: You're basically a squatter. You maybe have squatters, right, this
Speaker 1: is my room. This is not your room.
Speaker 3: It's my room.
Speaker 1: And this and that and this and that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: man with that, just when his kids turned out a
Speaker 1: little funky. But anyway, that always stuck with me, that idea.
Speaker 1: I remember being terrified of it. I was like, let my mom,
Speaker 1: let me turn this up with my mommy kids.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I definitely was like, no, the only two adults that
Speaker 2: pay bills in this house are your father, and I so.
Speaker 3: I think that that.
Speaker 2: I think the part that, really, I guess pissed me
Speaker 2: off the most was I would have been like regular
Speaker 2: angry just to see the note like please don't come
Speaker 2: in my room. I don't be like, girl, you tried it,
Speaker 2: And I honestly just would have said, Melissa, you tried it.
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm gonna come to this room.
Speaker 2: But it was the part where she was said that
Speaker 2: in order for me to come in her room, I
Speaker 2: had to contact her and her mother.
Speaker 1: Don't her mom know about that? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, of course not, because me and her mom
Speaker 3: are super cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it doesn't seem like, yeah, I've heard
Speaker 1: about y'all's relationship.
Speaker 3: You know she's super cool.
Speaker 2: But that part is like the part that like she
Speaker 2: thought that I was going to ask an adult that
Speaker 2: does not live here or pay bills here about agency
Speaker 2: in my own house where I could go.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I said, picture that girl. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, child, so and if y'all have teenagers,
Speaker 2: because I'm just entering into I mean, although I feel
Speaker 2: like she gave us pre teenage anks, but now we're
Speaker 2: entering to real teenage zone, if you have any suggestions
Speaker 2: for me, I don't even Yeah, I feel like I.
Speaker 3: Got a long road ahead.
Speaker 2: Certainly, Ig messaged me, you know, tweet me the budgetista.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like, what are some things that worked?
Speaker 2: What are some things that didn't work? Am I just
Speaker 2: gonna be like girl, buckle up for the ride? This
Speaker 2: is what it looks like now. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: even know. Honestly, I'm just and I usually, like I
Speaker 2: tell you, it doesn' it takes a lot to get
Speaker 2: me like angry. But when I was almost I was like, okay, Tiffy,
Speaker 2: you don't call right now because you are I was
Speaker 2: baking hot, and I was just like and even like
Speaker 2: I said, I knew I wasn't gonna like cuss her
Speaker 2: like you know, cause I just don't.
Speaker 3: But I knew that I didn't want to use a tone.
Speaker 2: That was really like, you know, harsh, but I felt like,
Speaker 2: you know, it was enough to let her know. And
Speaker 2: I told her I didn't call you for your apologies
Speaker 2: because I know you don't feel sorry.
Speaker 3: I called for clarity. Are we clear? She was like yes,
Speaker 3: I said, okay, bye.
Speaker 1: I feel like kids keep you sharp, though my debate.
Speaker 1: Skills are going to be on.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do keep you sharp, but yeah, so that's
Speaker 3: my day, that's your day. Well, I have to last people.
Speaker 1: We talked about what's happening with the next stimulus check proposal.
Speaker 1: I guess that's what we can call it. But it's
Speaker 1: another relief package. Basically, everyone's waiting because those about extra
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars per week that the federal government was
Speaker 1: financing for people who unemployed. Still tens of millions of
Speaker 1: people are unemployed, which is bizarre to just such a
Speaker 1: huge number. There's so much strife going on right now,
Speaker 1: and of course in Congress. The good news is that
Speaker 1: Republicans do seem like they're amenable to the idea of
Speaker 1: extending that extra federal unemployment benefit to unemployed people, but
Speaker 1: it may go down from six hundred dollars to two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. People like Mitch McConnell and his and his
Speaker 1: his lackeys, they hate the idea of people like and
Speaker 1: my dad has even said this. My dad is a
Speaker 1: public but public city bus driver in Atlanta. He and
Speaker 1: I think he earned something like it was less than
Speaker 1: twenty dollars an hour. My dad earned and it's true
Speaker 1: with the extra simulus bills, he's doing better than he
Speaker 1: would have been a little bit better than he would
Speaker 1: have been if he had been working his regular hours
Speaker 1: doing his job. And that is what really gets Republicans
Speaker 1: pissed off, the idea that this is disincentivizing work in
Speaker 1: their opinion. And I'm just like my dad and I
Speaker 1: are laughing because I'm like, you're not at You're not
Speaker 1: at like a casino gambling away your money. Like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you have a little bit extra money to put
Speaker 1: in your emergency fund or you know, for groceries or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But it like Republicans are actively trying to keep people
Speaker 1: under financial insecurity. That's that's genuinely what they're working towards.
Speaker 1: And it's just kind of astounding to me. And it's
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, you know. And I
Speaker 1: was telling my dad, I'm like, if you want more
Speaker 1: proof that America needs to pay people more and praise
Speaker 1: minimum wage, which in the state of Georgia is still
Speaker 1: ridiculously low, it's like seven dollars or less than that.
Speaker 3: Even it's the fact that.
Speaker 1: People are doing better unemployed than they were when they
Speaker 1: had jobs like that it's just it's mind boggling to me.
Speaker 1: But wanted to give y'all the latest if you're still
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this on Wednesday, we're taping a
Speaker 1: couple of days early, so it may not be exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening, but I'm watching it closely and I'm very
Speaker 1: curious to see what they end up doing, and especially
Speaker 1: for small businesses, because you have states that are now
Speaker 1: reclosing or scaling. Didn't they scale back the opening And yeah,
Speaker 1: it just seems like it seems like people's minds have
Speaker 1: maybe moved forward, but nothing has exactly changed, you know,
Speaker 1: in the climate of the pandemic and the economic crisis,
Speaker 1: and we genuinely just need government to work for us.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's one hundred days till the election,
Speaker 1: about one hundred days till the presidential election. So if
Speaker 1: y'all are not feeling the way this whole situation's working out,
Speaker 1: please vote, Please vote, put on a mask and vote. Actually,
Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams my my favorite from my favor from Georgia.
Speaker 1: She's become she's actually in the running for Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: vice presidential candidate. But anyway, she when she lost the
Speaker 1: gubernatorial race in Georgia. She created this Fair Fight Action
Speaker 1: organization because the reason one of the many reasons she uh, well,
Speaker 1: not the many reasons that she lost the election, because
Speaker 1: it was a very very tight election, and Stacy Abrams
Speaker 1: had her life work basically to expose the way that governments,
Speaker 1: state governments, the parties in power are trying to diminish
Speaker 1: the power people's rights to vote, especially black and brown people,
Speaker 1: because they know when we come out to vote, it's
Speaker 1: usually not in their favor. So her organization they have
Speaker 1: this mask that just says vote. It's a bright purple
Speaker 1: mask and it has a vote on the front. And
Speaker 1: I love this because even in states where they are
Speaker 1: because you know, right now, if you heard all the
Speaker 1: debating about should people be allowed to do mail in ballots,
Speaker 1: you know, is there any way that we can create
Speaker 1: a safe voting environment because you know, people are genuinely
Speaker 1: worried about catching COVID waiting in line, you know, for elections,
Speaker 1: and when you factor in the social distancing, I mean
Speaker 1: those little polling boots where you go to vote, I
Speaker 1: mean those are the cool by imagine, yes, but and
Speaker 1: that's scary because you want people to go and vote.
Speaker 1: It's never been the stakes have never been higher, and
Speaker 1: yet I think that's what the party in power is hoping,
Speaker 1: is that people will be dissuaded from going Wait, how
Speaker 1: did I say that? Just waited from going to vote?
Speaker 1: And so Stacy's creation of that mask, which you can
Speaker 1: check out post a link in the show notes because
Speaker 1: I think some of the proceeds go towards organization and voters' rights.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that mask is just like saying, Okay, we
Speaker 1: know it's scary out there, but let's do it anyway.
Speaker 2: We have to vote, Yeah, we have We literally our
Speaker 2: lives depend on it. Absolutely, Like literally, there are people
Speaker 2: who voted for the current administration. They're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: what's the worst that can happen? Literally, this is this
Speaker 2: is the worst that can happen. We're here now, pandemic quarantine, death, destruction,
Speaker 2: civil unrest, like we are in the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2: So your vote, your vote created an environment for this
Speaker 2: to be for those of you who voted for the
Speaker 2: current administration. I will not name that person that leads
Speaker 2: to current administration. He does not see who must be
Speaker 2: named exactly, But WoT I mean we can maybe say
Speaker 2: this for for our questions, but my mom asked me
Speaker 2: a question today and I thought we should address it,
Speaker 2: so maybe we'll save it for the questions segment.
Speaker 1: Wait, a special question from Mama Aliita. Okay, I'm all
Speaker 1: here for it. All right, Well, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back to answer your questions. Guys.
Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: dot com dot com. Before we get to Mama Leecha's
Speaker 1: question now, which I'm very curious about, I want to read.
Speaker 1: Last week, we asked some of you guys if your
Speaker 1: parents or you have children that you're taking care of
Speaker 1: at this time. Many of you, like I and Tiffany,
Speaker 1: you know, we're working taking care of children, taking care
Speaker 1: of ungrateful children, and juggling that with our full time jobs,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to kind of hear. We wanted to
Speaker 1: hear from you guys and see how you're dealing with it,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to share a note from We
Speaker 1: got several responses, so thank y'all. This comes from listener Ellen,
Speaker 1: and Ellen says, I have an eleven month year old
Speaker 1: I start work next week from being on maternity leave
Speaker 1: for the school year because I'm a school counselor not
Speaker 1: only do I have to worry about what distance learning
Speaker 1: is going to look like, I also have to worry
Speaker 1: about finding childcare for my son. COVID nineteen has me
Speaker 1: scared as all hell, but a nanny is too damn expensive.
Speaker 1: I live in the Bay Area and paying a nanny
Speaker 1: a living wage full time, it's almost the amount of
Speaker 1: my take home pay. Childcare is scary because you are
Speaker 1: exposing your kid to more people, but it's what I
Speaker 1: can afford and what we had planned on doing before
Speaker 1: the pandemic. Mom guilt right now is settling in real
Speaker 1: hard and just hearing Mandy ask about what people are
Speaker 1: doing for childcare made me feel less alone. I know
Speaker 1: I can't work from home without some kind of childcare,
Speaker 1: so I just cross my fingers and pray that my
Speaker 1: son will stay healthy. Thank you. We feel for you.
Speaker 3: Ellen.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the sad truth. There's no answer. It's
Speaker 1: just it's hard decision, hard decision, hard decision. Pick a door,
Speaker 1: you know, take a door and walk through it. And
Speaker 1: the fact that schools are asking teachers to come back
Speaker 1: when you worked at that daycare with that private or public.
Speaker 3: That was private, it was a nonprofit. So but I
Speaker 3: wonder what's.
Speaker 1: It like even for a private I mean, I know
Speaker 1: you haven't worked in that in a daycare for a
Speaker 1: long time, but do you have a choice, mean when
Speaker 1: they say come in, I mean, you can choose not
Speaker 1: to come in, right, but it's probably a choice between
Speaker 1: getting a paycheck and not.
Speaker 3: And that's literally what it is.
Speaker 2: Because there'd be moments like, for example, like just say
Speaker 2: something as benign as a snow day, where like the
Speaker 2: snow would be pretty bad, and we as teachers were like, well,
Speaker 2: this is not fair because for example, typically they don't
Speaker 2: call a snow day until like like eight or nine.
Speaker 2: But I used to have to go to work by seven.
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna say, oh, schools are closed and
Speaker 2: you tell parents by nine, what would happen is I
Speaker 2: would go to work by seven, People drop their kids
Speaker 2: off by seven, They close schools by nine, and some
Speaker 2: parents wouldn't get there until like one, two, three, you know,
Speaker 2: So it was hard because it's like, do you not
Speaker 2: go and not get paid because when they tell you
Speaker 2: it's open, it's open, and you not going. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can use the sick day if you have it,
Speaker 2: but then sometimes you would get in trouble because you can.
Speaker 2: It's like a no call, no show. So it's just
Speaker 2: it's not easy for teachers just not to show up.
Speaker 2: That's why, you know, hopefully more there are teachers who
Speaker 2: are in unions, and then the union can help force
Speaker 2: the hand of some of the towns that might be
Speaker 2: trying to force teachers to go because you yourself individually,
Speaker 2: it's going to be hard for ten teachers to say
Speaker 2: that because they have families as well. So it's like,
Speaker 2: do I put my family at risk one way or
Speaker 2: the other by not having enough money.
Speaker 3: To support them or me potentially getting sick?
Speaker 1: And I hope that parents. You know, I don't have
Speaker 1: a school age child, but I have. I am a
Speaker 1: part of the local Moms of you know insert city
Speaker 1: name here Facebook group and the one mom got you
Speaker 1: know one she was posting inventing about the quality of
Speaker 1: distance learning at the school that she goes to and
Speaker 1: how she's thinking about going private because it's been so bad,
Speaker 1: and I mean she was she was just dumped on
Speaker 1: and dragged. But you have to give you have to
Speaker 1: understand the other side. It's not like you as parents. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean schools are so crucial and you know now
Speaker 1: we're really realizing the value of them, which is sad.
Speaker 1: Teachers in school to mean they offer childcare, they offer learning.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're so crucial to the fabric of our
Speaker 1: society and and our you know, children's development, but they
Speaker 1: also are dealing with this pandemic. They are humans too,
Speaker 1: and I think we just need to and they also
Speaker 1: have choked too many Learning is new to them. They
Speaker 1: have gets at home, and they're trying to teach your kids,
Speaker 1: and like imagine you being home with your kid and
Speaker 1: having to not just take like figure out childcare, but
Speaker 1: like teach your kid, like teach other kids kids, or
Speaker 1: teach other parents' kids. It's it's it's such a difficult
Speaker 1: situation and I just think we just need we have
Speaker 1: to lower the expectation for twenty twenty. Okay, listen, we
Speaker 1: just it's just not going to be like it was before.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be as good. We've just got
Speaker 1: to We've got to create a new measuring stick. For
Speaker 1: situations and for people and services, and just relax a
Speaker 1: little and get people like, we just need empathy. I
Speaker 1: talked about empathy last week. I just wish empathy, empathy, empathy.
Speaker 1: Stop yourself from judging or writing a terrible review or
Speaker 1: complaining about someone else, and just ask yourself what is
Speaker 1: their situation, what might they be going through right now
Speaker 1: in these crazy times? And pause before you judge. Try
Speaker 1: to at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now more than ever, empathy is. It's critically important
Speaker 2: because you're going to need it as well. So are
Speaker 2: you ready for Mama Lee Chase question?
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Mama Lee Chase remimy again. Is she
Speaker 1: she's retired? Right?
Speaker 3: Does she retire? She's a nurse? Well, she was a nurse.
Speaker 2: She was a hospital nurse and then became a school
Speaker 2: nurse and then not last year, but year before last year. Retired,
Speaker 2: So just in time, because so she called me and
Speaker 2: was like, hey, daughter, it's like hello mother, she.
Speaker 3: She said, So I have a leased car.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm barely driving it, but I think it
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to continue with the lease. Wouldn't it
Speaker 2: be better if I just purchased the car instead? And
Speaker 2: so once she asked me, you know, like should I
Speaker 2: get my financing through like the car company. She has
Speaker 2: a Toyota like a Wrap four And I said.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, So she has been leasing and she
Speaker 1: wants to purchase it.
Speaker 3: Yes, she wants to purchase that Leas's car.
Speaker 1: How long has she had her lease?
Speaker 2: I believe, I want to say, she said, at least
Speaker 2: for a while, you know what, I believe the lease
Speaker 2: is up. So that's so she's at the end, so
Speaker 2: maybe like I want to say, between three and five years,
Speaker 2: because she basically said, I have to make the choice
Speaker 2: this week, so that let me know that the lease
Speaker 2: is basically up and she has to decide. She said
Speaker 2: that she's severely under her miles, so I think, like,
Speaker 2: you know, they give them like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: what do they usually give them, like thirty six hundred
Speaker 2: miles or something like thirty six thousand miles?
Speaker 1: Thirty six thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she said that she's been averaging like ten
Speaker 2: thousand miles a year, so it's like, yanke, she barely
Speaker 2: uses it. And she's just like, but she doesn't want
Speaker 2: a car, but she doesn't want to, you know, pay
Speaker 2: for a lease that she's not going to be using
Speaker 2: those miles, but they have to have a car in
Speaker 2: the house obviously. So one I was like, okay, well
Speaker 2: if you're going to do so well, One I wanted
Speaker 2: to address like whether or not you should even you know,
Speaker 2: like whether you should purchase your lease. And here are
Speaker 2: some like kind of like things I told her. I
Speaker 2: was like, well, if you're way under or way over,
Speaker 2: it might make sense. So if you're for my mom,
Speaker 2: she's way under right, and so as a result, she's
Speaker 2: like leaving value on the table because you know, she
Speaker 2: paid for for thirty six thousand and she's used one
Speaker 2: third of that. Or if you're way over, like I
Speaker 2: remember when I was in college, my dad got my
Speaker 2: sisters and I a truck that we all shared at lease.
Speaker 2: Like it was like a pathfinder and woolf child. That
Speaker 2: pathfinder saw every corner of this fleet. I mean, you
Speaker 2: know the number of miles we put on that thing.
Speaker 2: They were like, did you take this overseas? So way over?
Speaker 2: You might want to purchase the car to offset you know,
Speaker 2: the miles that you're that you've put on, So you know,
Speaker 2: you don't want to leave money on the table by
Speaker 2: like because because you used too little, and then you
Speaker 2: don't want to have to pay these extra fees because
Speaker 2: you use too much. So that's one one indication of
Speaker 2: maybe a buying your lease might be a good idea.
Speaker 2: Also too, if you had a lot of like excess
Speaker 2: wear and tear, because like my mom's cars like in
Speaker 2: pristine condition. But let's just say, you know, you lease
Speaker 2: the car for your kid and they kind of tore
Speaker 2: it up, and you know, the penalties are going to
Speaker 2: be crazy, so you're like, you know what, we might
Speaker 2: as well just buy the car because by the time
Speaker 2: we paid these panelties, we might as well have bought
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Now, the only caveat, and the biggest caveat is that
Speaker 2: what are they going.
Speaker 3: To And that's what this is where I'm gonna help.
Speaker 2: My mom is a really good negotiator, so I've gotten
Speaker 2: my negotiating skills from her. She learned her negotiating skills
Speaker 2: in the market place in Nigeria, no place better. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell her that don't let them try
Speaker 2: to sell you the car at retail price because the
Speaker 2: leasing company, they're gonna save money on shipping and auction fees,
Speaker 2: so they need to be passing on that to you
Speaker 2: and to try to aim for her to buy a
Speaker 2: wholesale And on top of that, like literally leasing companies,
Speaker 2: their number one buyers are these like Hurts and these
Speaker 2: rental car companies that are not buying cars because people
Speaker 2: are not renting cars and people are not buying as
Speaker 2: many cars.
Speaker 1: So she's able to get point.
Speaker 2: So she should be leaning, she should go hard. But
Speaker 2: like I said, my mom's an ex exactly and her
Speaker 2: so one thing she did ask me is she said,
Speaker 2: should I read finance or should I get the least
Speaker 2: and get financing through the through like Toyota. I said,
Speaker 2: absolutely not, And I said, not even your big bank.
Speaker 2: I told her to go to a credit union because
Speaker 2: credit unions are typically nonprofit based organizations, meaning that the
Speaker 2: interest that they're charging you is moderate in comparison to
Speaker 2: like a big bank, because their aim is not to
Speaker 2: make money off of you know, that interest, it's to
Speaker 2: keep the doors open, because that's what literally nonprofits are.
Speaker 2: Their aim is not to make a profit, but to
Speaker 2: help the community. So I told her, and there are
Speaker 2: many credit unions that she can join today and apply today.
Speaker 2: And her she was just asking me about where she
Speaker 2: should get her. I told her she should know her
Speaker 2: credit score because the credit union is going to ask
Speaker 2: for it so she could start shopping around. And she
Speaker 2: was like, okay. I told her, like to go to
Speaker 2: credit scorecard dot com and she said, do they ask
Speaker 2: for your social Security number? I didn't remember that they did.
Speaker 2: I told her, no, of course they do. And now
Speaker 2: she's like, I don't want to get it. I'm like, oh, ma'am,
Speaker 2: so yes. I mean I just trust yes, and I
Speaker 2: can understand that. But wherever you go, they're going to
Speaker 2: pull your credit score. So it's just it is what
Speaker 2: it is like, they're going to I told her, Mommy,
Speaker 2: when's the last time you borrow any money? Now, of
Speaker 2: course they're going to ask you for your not only
Speaker 2: your credit score, but they're going to ask you for
Speaker 2: your Social Security number. When you borrow money, they need
Speaker 2: to attach that debt to you. Should you run away
Speaker 2: with it?
Speaker 3: And she was like mmm. I was like this woman,
Speaker 3: so yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you're thinking about purchasing your lease, actually, typically
Speaker 2: I would say it's not the greatest idea because it's
Speaker 2: very difficult to negotiate them down sometimes to get them
Speaker 2: down to as close to wholesale pricing as possible, but
Speaker 2: now more than ever. You know, if you got you know,
Speaker 2: if you're a good negotiator, you can certainly get a
Speaker 2: great deal on your on your lease if you want
Speaker 2: to purchase it.
Speaker 1: That's good to know, because husband tricked me into get
Speaker 1: in the lease right before I gave birth. He caught
Speaker 1: me in a real he caught me in a really
Speaker 1: like blue blue mood and took me lease shopping like
Speaker 1: a week before I went into labor. Anyway, now we
Speaker 1: have a second card. First car is paid off, and
Speaker 1: now we have a second car with a really cheap
Speaker 1: least but still we do. We ended up not needing
Speaker 1: that second car obviously in the pandemic, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: damn it, thirty six more months with this thing. That's okay,
Speaker 1: live and learn well, I know, Mama. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like your parents listen to your advice? Did they ask
Speaker 1: you just so they can contradict you like my dad does?
Speaker 2: And no, so like I feel like my mom listens
Speaker 2: and my dad to a certain degree, but my dad's
Speaker 2: like girl with my whole degree in finance and economics
Speaker 2: and my BA in my MBA in economics. Cute but
Speaker 2: who taught you? So I feel like my dad kind
Speaker 2: of listens, but my mom more so listen. So as
Speaker 2: soon as we hang up, I'm going to remind her, like,
Speaker 2: mommy activate Nigerian market negotiating skills.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, you ain't say nothing but a word
Speaker 3: like my mom is.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you when whenever we had to like go
Speaker 2: to get something, I would call.
Speaker 3: Her and be like, Mommy, can you come. They're not
Speaker 3: trying to give me this?
Speaker 2: Oh I'll be there, let me put let me put
Speaker 2: my pants on. What she lives for negotiating, So when
Speaker 2: I tell her that she should negotiate, she's gonna be like, oh, yes.
Speaker 3: Like my dad always says.
Speaker 2: He's like, your mom is better than me at negotiating
Speaker 2: like so like, but it's commonplace, like you know you
Speaker 2: go to the marketplace, it's it's the marketplace in Nigeria.
Speaker 2: So many women are the ones who are buying and
Speaker 2: selling trading goods and services.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, so.
Speaker 2: I'm I'll tell you give to give you guys the
Speaker 2: updates if you know what she was able to do.
Speaker 2: Did she get her her loan through a credit union
Speaker 2: and was she able to get the price down, which
Speaker 2: I'm sure she would.
Speaker 3: She she will be able to.
Speaker 1: So love it. On another episode, not today, because we're
Speaker 1: almost done, But I've got to tell you about my
Speaker 1: dad's mortgage. I found out something interesting about how he
Speaker 1: has a private mortgage today, which I didn't know was
Speaker 1: a thing he lended. He bought his mortgage is through
Speaker 1: a person not okay, and I'm fascinated. And I looked
Speaker 1: into it and it's legit. I haven't talked to the
Speaker 1: guard today and I'm like, yes, excuse me, mister John,
Speaker 1: you ow you have my dad's mortgage.
Speaker 3: I've ned that.
Speaker 1: Yes anyway, all right, well, thank you Mama lee Ja
Speaker 1: for your question. Let's take another quick one. This one's
Speaker 1: comes from Instagram from a new listener named Kristin. Kristin says, Hey,
Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast called are You Really an Ally?
Speaker 1: And I loved it. Question for both of you on
Speaker 1: suggestions for recruiting. Oh so, on this episode. A few
Speaker 1: episodes ago, we talked about ally ship, especially from an
Speaker 1: employer in a business perspective, because so many companies are
Speaker 1: coming out and saying they really value inclusivity and stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, So Christian says Kristen says, how do you
Speaker 1: make your recruiting inclusive? Obviously the training around biases and
Speaker 1: interviewing is important, but I'm wondering how to cast a
Speaker 1: wider net. I'm currently recruiting for a board I sit on.
Speaker 1: We have a diverse staff and a somewhat diverse board,
Speaker 1: but I wondered if you had any suggestions on inclusive recruiting,
Speaker 1: tiffany where do you go to find all the talented
Speaker 1: people will diverse people of your business?
Speaker 2: To be fair, it's I typically recruit from my audience,
Speaker 2: so I feel like it's not really an alignment with how.
Speaker 3: Y'all would recruit.
Speaker 2: Meaning so like I serve black women for the most part,
Speaker 2: Like you know, my core audience is Black women, although
Speaker 2: we don't turn anyone away and we definitely have seen
Speaker 2: an uptick and like other types of women and even
Speaker 2: some men, but that's my core audience. I'm a Black
Speaker 2: woman and that's who listens. So whenever I'm looking for
Speaker 2: something or someone, I will go to the audience and say, hey,
Speaker 2: we are looking to hire dot dot dot, and you know,
Speaker 2: when they email, I don't know their race. But because
Speaker 2: my audience is largely Black women, that will be like
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of the resumes and things that will
Speaker 2: get But I will say that I am more intentional,
Speaker 2: Like now I have a potential show TV show on
Speaker 2: the table, and so I was I'm interviewing for entertainment
Speaker 2: attorneys right now, and I've reached out to my friends
Speaker 2: who are in the entertainment business, and I specifically said, hey,
Speaker 2: I would like to be represented by a black woman.
Speaker 2: I want someone who because I've had representation in the past,
Speaker 2: and I want someone who understand stands why I don't
Speaker 2: want to do certain things and won't even bring them
Speaker 2: to my table. Like I've had folks who are like, like,
Speaker 2: I always say that prepaid cards are the malt liquor
Speaker 2: of financial financial I don't even know tools or financial
Speaker 2: Yeah products, right, people, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: I'm like, Well, malt.
Speaker 2: Liquor is alcohol that is especially egregious for the body.
Speaker 2: It's really piss poor alcohol, and it is pushed to
Speaker 2: black and brown communities and communities that don't have access
Speaker 2: to like wealth. And so that's what prepaid cards are
Speaker 2: that it is a terrible for the ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: of them are terrible because they're fee like yo, prepaid cards.
Speaker 3: Will charge you to think.
Speaker 2: They're going to charge you to open it, charge you
Speaker 2: to close it, charge you to load it, charge you
Speaker 2: to swipe it, charge you to if you have a
Speaker 2: transaction canceled.
Speaker 3: They charge you for so much.
Speaker 2: They charge you for inactivity, They charge you for stop paying,
Speaker 2: if there's a monthly fee, they charge you for additional cars.
Speaker 2: So and there are they are purposefully presented and advertised
Speaker 2: to black and brown communities and communities that that fall
Speaker 2: below a certain earning power. And so that's why I
Speaker 2: say they're the malt liquor of financial products and services.
Speaker 2: And so there are certain I've had people who I've
Speaker 2: worked with before that have brought things like that to me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what did I tell you about this?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: And so that's why there are certain instances where I
Speaker 2: specifically ask for I want a black attorney, a black
Speaker 2: woman attorney.
Speaker 1: I'm wonder glad you said that, because my first tip
Speaker 1: would be, do not be shy about telling people you
Speaker 1: are looking for referrals, but you're really trying to find
Speaker 1: an inclusive as inclusive be inclusive as inclusive as you
Speaker 1: can and find diverse recruits. And you need to tell
Speaker 1: people that, because you know, people may not even think
Speaker 1: before they refer you to this, you know, the three
Speaker 1: people they have top of their mind, who may all
Speaker 1: look the same or come from the same college, or
Speaker 1: have the same you know, socioeconomic background. But if you
Speaker 1: tell them, hey, we're really looking to diversity recruit candidate,
Speaker 1: do you know any good candidates? And keep that in
Speaker 1: mind as you're thinking of people, they may think about
Speaker 1: someone they don't interact with day to day and pitch
Speaker 1: that to you. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with going
Speaker 1: into recruiting and being open about it. It's not shameful,
Speaker 1: it's not illegal. So's it's better for your business in
Speaker 1: general if you're just upfront about it in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and I think the more people you have involved in
Speaker 1: the process the better.
Speaker 3: So And didn't you.
Speaker 2: Say before you can go to like colleges, like historically
Speaker 2: black universities in colleges and reach out to like that
Speaker 2: platform there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of times, you know, it depends on
Speaker 1: how big the company is, but college recruiting is really
Speaker 1: important to many companies. It's a key it's a key
Speaker 1: way that they fill the pipeline. You get people young,
Speaker 1: and you get them motivated and they stay with the
Speaker 1: company for a long time. And they often will recruit
Speaker 1: on college campuses. And if you're not getting a diverse,
Speaker 1: you know, pool of candidates from the colleges you're recruiting from,
Speaker 1: you know, ask yourself why, you know, talk to the
Speaker 1: people at the campus, because of course that campus wants
Speaker 1: their graduates to be known as great job applicants and
Speaker 1: they want to you know, satisfy the businesses that often
Speaker 1: pay money to come recruit on their campus. Right, so
Speaker 1: tell them what you're looking for. Say, we will come
Speaker 1: to your job fair, but we want to be sure that,
Speaker 1: you know, we're seeing a diverse group of students. And
Speaker 1: if they can't deliver on that, then maybe it's you know,
Speaker 1: going to HBCU colleges or colleges that have a higher
Speaker 1: representation of minorities. Just being really intentional about it. And
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, especially I've worked at all
Speaker 1: types of places, and often when you're doing your when
Speaker 1: you have recruiting going on, it's it's your you know,
Speaker 1: you have a need, especially at a small company, you
Speaker 1: feel like you don't have enough time to do like
Speaker 1: in depth recruiting. You just need someone who's talented, who
Speaker 1: can do the job quickly so that they can fill
Speaker 1: that gap. Or you may not even have a huge
Speaker 1: recruiting team to help you and it ends up falling
Speaker 1: on one person to do the recruiting. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why you proliferate these you know, these this lack
Speaker 1: of diversity in different in different offices is because the
Speaker 1: group of people who are doing the recruiting is very
Speaker 1: very small. And I think if you especially for senior
Speaker 1: level positions, higher you know, people coming out at a
Speaker 1: higher title, higher pay, which is often where the cliff
Speaker 1: kind of drops off for black and brown employees at companies.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're down in the first entry level position, but
Speaker 1: the higher you get, the wider it gets. Being really
Speaker 1: intentional with those senior positions and saying, listen, we're going
Speaker 1: to have a hiring committee. It's going to be three people.
Speaker 1: They're going to be diverse, and we're going to be
Speaker 1: the checks and balances for the whole thing and make
Speaker 1: sure that we are getting a diverse pool. So that's
Speaker 1: my advice, be intentional. Tell people you are actively recruiting,
Speaker 1: you want to be inclusive, you want diverse candidates, Go
Speaker 1: find them. Wherever they may be for your profession. There's
Speaker 1: tons of professional organizations, yes that associations that are for
Speaker 1: black and brown professionals.
Speaker 3: So they call them that.
Speaker 2: They'll have like Black Accounting Association, Black Lawyers of New Jersey.
Speaker 3: So that's an amazing place.
Speaker 2: Because there was one company that you know, came to
Speaker 2: me and they're like, oh, you know, because they wanted
Speaker 2: me to work with them, but they didn't have any
Speaker 2: black employees, or any brown employees, or any anybody except
Speaker 2: for white men for the most part. And I was
Speaker 2: just like, I'm just not interested in being that black
Speaker 2: band aid And they were like, no, no, I sure
Speaker 2: you're Our next person would be black. But they said
Speaker 2: it in a way as if they were doing black
Speaker 2: people a favor.
Speaker 3: I'm like, ma'am, do you know black people actually go
Speaker 3: to college.
Speaker 2: They're actually really smart black folks who could make this
Speaker 2: organization better. Like and I you know it's clear that like, no,
Speaker 2: look for qualified applicants, but widen your scope. If you
Speaker 2: only ever throw your net where there are salmon, you're
Speaker 2: only going to catch salmon, and then you're going to
Speaker 2: say salmon are the best fish.
Speaker 3: No, there's a whole wide open ocean.
Speaker 2: Cast your net wider, you will find other amazing fish
Speaker 2: that are equally as talented as salmon. Okay, so like yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's really it. It's like because no one's asking
Speaker 2: for a favor, I don't think people get them. When
Speaker 2: you have a diverse range of ideas and thoughts and
Speaker 2: just people bringing something different to the table, it actually
Speaker 2: makes your business better. I don't think, like, I don't
Speaker 2: get like, with racism, everyone loses, you know, like you
Speaker 2: just do. I had to tell the other business like yo,
Speaker 2: I tell the other brand. I'm like, yo, we're eight
Speaker 2: figures a year? Are small little business filled with the
Speaker 2: black women that you're not looking to hire? Like bruh,
Speaker 2: These women could be working for you too. You could
Speaker 2: have an amazing company. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 2: big their company is, but and I'm just like, so
Speaker 2: you think that, like you, cutting people out is harming them.
Speaker 2: Your business doesn't grow as much. This is why you
Speaker 2: have to try to cut to me to run affiliate
Speaker 2: links for you, because you don't know how to speak
Speaker 2: to this audience. Maybe you'd know if you actually hired
Speaker 2: people that look like me, you know, maybe you know
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have to make this faux pas with your
Speaker 2: fake black box talking about blackout Tuesday, but literally means nothing,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's just that part is frustrating, like
Speaker 2: police like go out and you know it doesn't like
Speaker 2: find qualified applicants like you know there are can I
Speaker 2: appreciate this question because people really wanted to know, But
Speaker 2: there are folks who quite honestly don't care and think
Speaker 2: that they're doing something by blocking people out. But the
Speaker 2: truth is there's a tide changing and more and more
Speaker 2: people are learning to find wealth and to make money
Speaker 2: outside of traditional systems. There are four women on my
Speaker 2: team who just had their first six figure month. Meanwhile
Speaker 2: they work for me. I'm not paying them six figures
Speaker 2: a month, and they're not necessarily making six figures a month,
Speaker 2: but they have their side hustles and they've made six
Speaker 2: figures and meanwhile they still work with me. And I ask,
Speaker 2: you know, are you sure you still want to work here?
Speaker 2: That they're like, no, I love working here. I work
Speaker 2: here for the mission, I love working here for the
Speaker 2: other women. I love working for you, Tiffany. And so
Speaker 2: what I'm sharing that to say that you keep thinking
Speaker 2: you're holding people back from making money. Not you the
Speaker 2: woman who's you know obviously wrote this in But like
Speaker 2: folks who like you know, try to keep these jobs yourself.
Speaker 3: Keep it.
Speaker 2: Shoot, there are people out here making seven figures a
Speaker 2: year off their own ingenuity.
Speaker 3: It's your loss.
Speaker 2: That's the same talent that could literally be in your
Speaker 2: business right now who are killing it. I know at
Speaker 2: least ten women right now that have since the beginning
Speaker 2: of this pandemic have made six figures in the last month,
Speaker 2: if not two months. Like, just think about how much
Speaker 2: amazing talent you've pushed out because of racism.
Speaker 1: And think how much amazing talent you'll be able to
Speaker 1: tap if you start hiring and looking outside you know,
Speaker 1: traditional traditional sources to find that to find that talent.
Speaker 1: But thank you Kristin for your question, thank you for
Speaker 1: being open to it. I hope people, I hope you're
Speaker 1: not the only one at the board, on the board
Speaker 1: that you said on that things. This is very important,
Speaker 1: and I hope that other people hold you accountable in
Speaker 1: the best way for bringing those diverse applicants. I love it,
Speaker 1: and thank you for listening to the show again. You
Speaker 1: can email us your questions at Brandibision Podcast at gmail
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Speaker 1: We are at Brand Ambition podcast. All right, Boost and
Speaker 1: Break time.
Speaker 3: Yes, Boosy break youcy break, Boosy break. Are you an
Speaker 3: a boost Mandy or are you going to bury?
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a quick boost because homeboys downstairs
Speaker 1: and needs to go to bed and I'm occupying his
Speaker 1: bedroom right occupying the nursery. My boos is going to
Speaker 1: be for Peloton. I finally got my peloton. Oh, I
Speaker 1: got it on Wednesday. I was not ready to ride
Speaker 1: until Saturday. I just had to get in the right headspace,
Speaker 1: you know. And things were really insane at work because
Speaker 1: I'm taking this week off and everything. But I am
Speaker 1: so far a huge fan and people have asked me like,
Speaker 1: is it worth it? I mean, it's only been a week,
Speaker 1: not even a week yet. But for me, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys used to know this or you
Speaker 1: know this, but I used to be a pretty avid biker,
Speaker 1: like a bicycle.
Speaker 3: I remember I had a bike blog.
Speaker 1: I used to do one hundred mile bike tours. I
Speaker 1: was real, real into biking, okay, and that was because
Speaker 1: I was too poor to afford affoid, too poor to
Speaker 1: afford a monthly subway ticket way back when I first
Speaker 1: moved to New York, and so I got like a
Speaker 1: fifty dollars bike on Craigslist and used to bike my
Speaker 1: little butt around and it was actually great for my
Speaker 1: wallet and my waistline.
Speaker 3: But you know, yes, I remember baby.
Speaker 1: Man, so it really and so I thought, if I'm
Speaker 1: going to get back to exercising, I don't live very
Speaker 1: close to a gym. Even if I did, I would
Speaker 1: not be going because you know COVID. So for me,
Speaker 1: it became even more financially uh, you know it, maybe
Speaker 1: even more financial sense once I once I realized I'm
Speaker 1: probably working from home the rest of the year, I
Speaker 1: need to be physically active. And I will tell you
Speaker 1: just the first twenty minute little beginner rides that they
Speaker 1: have have been really fun and I've really slow. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to create like crazy goals I usually do
Speaker 1: for myself where I'm like, I'm going to do fifty
Speaker 1: miles in a day and I'm going to lose like
Speaker 1: fifty pounds in a month. I'm just going to take
Speaker 1: it easy. I don't want to get burnt out, and
Speaker 1: I'm really yeah, I'm super happy with it. And you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's Peloton or you know, there's a lot of freeways.
Speaker 1: You can work out at home too. And my mood,
Speaker 1: my mood is definitely better, definitely better now that I'm
Speaker 1: moving a little bit more and not just walking around,
Speaker 1: you know, my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to do a quick boosty boost too.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do a boost to Black Girls Lead.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure y'all have heard of Black Girls Rock.
Speaker 2: It is this amazing award show that was started by
Speaker 2: DJ Beverly Bond. She's awesome and Beverly was like, why
Speaker 2: is there not a ward show to honor black women
Speaker 2: who are doing dope things? And so she started one
Speaker 2: and it's just grown to be huge and the last
Speaker 2: few years it's been taped to Newark, and I've had
Speaker 2: an opportunity to go. I mean, like Chacy Ellis Ross
Speaker 2: has been the host, Queen Latifa. It's just an amazing
Speaker 2: like Michelle Obama has come to speak at Black Girl's Rock,
Speaker 2: and so they have this summer camp called Black Girls Lead.
Speaker 2: So every year since the inception, I think this is
Speaker 2: year four that I've done the financial component for a
Speaker 2: Black Girls Lead and typically they do it at Columbia
Speaker 2: University and the city and the girls come in and
Speaker 2: like literally they fly in from all over and they
Speaker 2: get I guess they stay on campus and it's just
Speaker 2: a whole experience for them. But obviously Covid said not
Speaker 2: this year, although the devil is a liar because they're
Speaker 2: still having black girls lead summer camp. But instead it's
Speaker 2: going to be virtual. And let me tell you the women.
Speaker 2: The women Mandy, So I'm speaking, but who am I?
Speaker 3: You know who's speaking? Michelle Obama?
Speaker 1: You know her?
Speaker 3: You know who else?
Speaker 2: Misty Copeland, Oh, yes, the principal dancer and for the
Speaker 2: American Ballet Theater and an author of the first Black
Speaker 2: woman to do so m hm.
Speaker 3: You know who else?
Speaker 2: Tamik A d You might have seen her. She's an activist,
Speaker 2: an organizer. She's one of the leading activists right now
Speaker 2: with our with this civil unrest, and she's just amazing.
Speaker 2: Also Unique Jones Gibson, she's a friend of mine who
Speaker 2: she's the one who started because of them we can.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember a few years ago.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so she's yeah, so she's amazing. Also oh,
Speaker 2: Missy Elliott, get your friends. Also have been doing boom
Speaker 2: after each name this time Kamala Harris, Oh she's speaking,
Speaker 2: m oh Estelle, Okay, hey boo. Elaine Welter Roll. You
Speaker 2: might have seen her on TV. She's a New York
Speaker 2: Times best selling author, a producer. I mean, just amazing,
Speaker 2: Like that's not even that's just literally just a few
Speaker 2: of the women that are speaking, so just to be
Speaker 2: counted in their number, I'm not gonna lie, is that
Speaker 2: big deal?
Speaker 3: I mean, just what you're talking about feels.
Speaker 1: What's your segment, what's your what's your Are you doing
Speaker 1: the keynote or are you doing a court like I
Speaker 1: don't even know what it's like.
Speaker 3: Are you doing a color so black girls?
Speaker 2: So, yes, it's a class, so they're they're there are
Speaker 2: a series of so usually that they do have like
Speaker 2: a keynote, which I'm assuming I mean, obviously Michelle Obama
Speaker 2: is clearly going to do that, but everybody else. That's
Speaker 2: kind of like back when it was at Columbia, we
Speaker 2: would do breakout classes where we would have like all
Speaker 2: the girls and so I used to do like all
Speaker 2: these different types of segments. But this time my class
Speaker 2: that I taught today. I actually prerecorded it today for
Speaker 2: the girls is. I called it how to Be How
Speaker 2: to Be a Millionaire because I wanted to lift up
Speaker 2: the veil that you young black women because it's like ages,
Speaker 2: I think, like I want to say thirteen to like
Speaker 2: maybe like eighteen or something like that, that you young
Speaker 2: black women.
Speaker 3: That that's outside of your reach, because that's just.
Speaker 1: That I didn't realize it was the same like young
Speaker 1: audience as Black Girl's rocket is. That's beautiful, and it's
Speaker 1: all about kind of like inspiring a generation of leaders,
Speaker 1: not just yes yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: So teaching them all these things that they might not
Speaker 2: otherwise have access to. And so yeah, I talked a
Speaker 2: class today of like how do you become a millionaire?
Speaker 2: Like what does that actually look like?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: What is investing? How do you start that? Should I
Speaker 2: start a business? Like you know that these things are
Speaker 2: within your reach? And and it's honestly, I mean I
Speaker 2: miss the energy of the girls because it would just
Speaker 2: be so awesome because afterwards they'd be so excited giving
Speaker 2: you hugs and like we would take all these pictures together.
Speaker 2: So I miss that, but I'm glad that black girls
Speaker 2: lead is still happening because Black Girl's Rock is about
Speaker 2: honoring Black women. But Black Girl's Lead is to make
Speaker 2: sure that these young women grow into those Black women
Speaker 2: that we later honor. So it just just what's an
Speaker 2: honor and a blessing and that's my brown, my extra
Speaker 2: black brown boost.
Speaker 1: Well, if we have anyone who's listening and has like
Speaker 1: a teenager that they or what about Supergirl, I mean
Speaker 1: she'll be in time out or restriction whatever you call
Speaker 1: it these.
Speaker 3: Days, but I'm gonna let her. Like, no, she's gonna
Speaker 3: do that. That's the one thing. How behind is doing.
Speaker 1: Still or is it closed?
Speaker 3: Yes? No, you can still red.
Speaker 2: So you can go to Black Girls Rock dot com.
Speaker 2: You could try, because I mean every year they do it,
Speaker 2: so I'm certain that there might be a waiting list
Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, you can go to Black Girls
Speaker 2: Rock dot com and see if there's any spaces left
Speaker 2: and try your best to register. And yeah, like I said,
Speaker 2: it's just awesome, Like what Beverly has been able to
Speaker 2: do in creating Black Girl's Rock and Black Girl's Lead,
Speaker 2: it's just it's an amazing thing to witness and to
Speaker 2: be a part of.
Speaker 1: I love it. And speaking of Supergirl, your picture just
Speaker 1: came through finally. I mean, I don't feel the I
Speaker 1: don't feel any malicious intent in the in the I'm
Speaker 1: trying to look at it like a child's psychologist would.
Speaker 1: I mean, the colors are very nice. I mean, she
Speaker 1: took great care and was very neat with her writing.
Speaker 1: But I do feel the tude. I do feel h
Speaker 1: It's that like.
Speaker 3: Do not that. I was like, oh she otlighted in
Speaker 3: read several times.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, oh yeah, I love it. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't love it, but this would be funny. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you took a picture of it because you can just
Speaker 1: drag her for this ten years from now too.
Speaker 2: I know, like remember this and that if you need,
Speaker 2: I could relieve you underline need and contact me or
Speaker 2: my mom.
Speaker 1: Please contract Like grown, like, how does she know this language?
Speaker 2: And first of all, maybe I'm home, like this is
Speaker 2: what this girl wrote and put on her door and left.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, she didn't even say goodbye.
Speaker 3: Actually looked. I was like, super Grid, supergrad. I was like,
Speaker 3: where'd she go?
Speaker 2: I had to call her father. She's like, she didn't
Speaker 2: tell you, because that's her. That's our thing. We always
Speaker 2: try to remind her, like, don't just leave, you know,
Speaker 2: let Tiffany know that you're going, even if it's a text,
Speaker 2: because I don't want you know, God forbid, the house
Speaker 2: cast is on fire. I don't want to run in
Speaker 2: looking for you and you're not there. So yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't I don't think it was like
Speaker 2: malicious in that, like I hate you, but definitely it
Speaker 2: was like don't go in my room. It was definitely that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, so I'll give you know,
Speaker 2: I'll give you the update to see like what. I'm
Speaker 2: sure she won't be back for a little while because
Speaker 2: she's never really heard me get stern. So I'm sure
Speaker 2: right now she's I'm everything but her bestie right now.
Speaker 1: Girl, I know she loves you deep down, but maybe
Speaker 1: she maybe she needed that conversation, needed that talk.
Speaker 2: Yes she did, because I never, like I said, I like,
Speaker 2: she's gotten over for a long time.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure she loves me deep deep deep deep deep.
Speaker 3: We there.
Speaker 1: Wait, I remember when we celebrated her turning double digits.
Speaker 2: I know, a whole decade and now look writing notes
Speaker 2: talk about where adults can go.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on that one. Okay, well, thank'd for
Speaker 1: another week, another show, and we'll see y'all next week. See,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go try to do on vacation now I
Speaker 1: can remember how to do