1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: The Senate Intelligence Committee is taking up the baton dropped 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: by the House Intelligence Committee. It opened its hearing this 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: morning on Russian interference in the US presidential election, with 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: the top Republican and Democrat pledging to steer clear of politics. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Republican Chairman Richard Burrs that his panel is fully engaged 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: in the investigation. The committee will engage in an activity 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: that's quite rare for US, an open hearing on an 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: ongoing critical intelligence question, the role of Russian active measures 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: past and present, and Democratic Vice Chairman Mark Warner said, 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: you may have been reading Russian propaganda on Facebook, even 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: if you don't have Russian friends. The Russians employed thousands 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: of paid Internet trolls and botan nets to push out 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: disinformation and fake news at high volume. Falso facing focusing 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: this material onto your Twitter and Facebook feeds, and flooding 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: our social media with misinformation. Our guest is William Banks. 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: He's director of the Institute for National Security and counter 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Terrorism at Syracuse University Law School. Starting with the press 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: conference yesterday, Burr and Warner have tried to distance themselves 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: from the House Committee. How much confidence do you have, William, 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: that this can be an investigation free of partisan politics. Well, 21 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: it's a good question, and I think the answers will 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: We'll have to take it a day at a time. Certainly, 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: the press conference yesterday was a good one, and the 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: hearings being conducted today, part of which I've have watched online, 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: seem like they're moving along in a very business like matter. Certainly, 26 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Chairman Burr and Vice Chairman Warner have put their best 27 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: posture on this, and it's certainly capable of of carrying 28 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: out a bipartisan investigation. Burr, I think earlier had some 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: contact with the White House or was being seen to 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: be doing the bidding of the White House before these 31 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: hearings began, But I believe he's tried to clear the 32 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: slate and move forward. So here we should be optimistic 33 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: one day at a time. Bill, What do you think 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the big test will be of this bipartisanship. What issues 35 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: are going to come up there are going to test? 36 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: In particular, Senator Burke, Well, I think the general question 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: of Russian interference or influences in the campaign and in 38 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: the election will will not be particularly difficult for them 39 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: to manage, and so far that's what they're doing. Even 40 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: the Trump administration has conceded that those activities occurred, and 41 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: so many uh entities in the executive branch have reached 42 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: that same conclusion so far. When it's going to get dicey, 43 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: of course, is is when the committee, if the committee 44 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: gets to inquiries of out the activities of the president 45 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: himself in Russia or the any allegations relating to his 46 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: him his family or his organizations in terms of financial 47 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: connections to Russia. Well, that's why the question I have is, really, 48 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: do you need a special prosecutor or a select committee? Yeah, 49 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: so another good question, and I think what time will 50 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: tell that it's certainly possible to have simultaneous prosecution and 51 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: congressional investigations ongoing. In the fact that happens quite often. 52 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: And the delicacy then is making sure that one doesn't 53 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: get in the way of the other, that is compromising 54 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: witnesses or uh, you know, letting classified information out that 55 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: that is important to one investigation having to compromise another. 56 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: In terms of a select committee, yes, I think there's 57 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: a strong argument to be made that that that the 58 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Congress itself could take the initiative to establish an independent 59 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: committee bipartisan of course, equally divided with its own cleared 60 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: staff and could get the job done. Certainly, the Senate 61 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee, liked the House Intelligence Committee is, is not 62 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: used to conducting an investigation of this time, nor are 63 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: they used to conducting open hearings. And some of these hearings, 64 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: of course, will be closed, and probably the more important 65 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: ones will be closed, and we'll have to see how 66 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: they handle the reporting on the uh you know, on 67 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: the exact contents of those hearings. But again, we could 68 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: have everything from the nine eleven type commission to a 69 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: select committee which could be done on the say so 70 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: of the Congress itself, to carrying on the way we 71 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: are now. The difficulty with the commission, which I think 72 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: in a perfect core old would be the direction to go, 73 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: is that it would require legislation like the nine eleven 74 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Commission had, and to have that legislation enacted you likely 75 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: to have to overcome a White House veto. We have 76 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: about twenty seconds yere, so maybe a yes or no 77 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: answer bill. Is the House investigation dead in the water. 78 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: I think what we've seen from nooness yes it maybe. 79 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: I guess just today in the last hour I saw 80 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: that they've named two White House officials who actually delivered confidential, sensitive, 81 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: classified information to him regarding the investigation on his request. 82 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: So I think that's very damning. Indeed, thank you for 83 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: being on Bloomberg Law. That's William Banks, director of the 84 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: Institute for National Security and counter Terrorism at Syracuse University 85 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Law School, coming up on Bloomberg Law. High stakes insider 86 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: trading trial of Las Vegas gambler Bill Walters. Golfer Phil 87 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: Mickelson has said he'll take the fifth call to testify, 88 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: So now prosecutors are turning their attention to getting evidence 89 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: in about Walter's connections with billionaire investor Carl Icon, who's 90 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: not accused of wrongdoing.