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Speaker 5: Yeah, very interesting, young man.
Speaker 4: So you will be joining us for our market Monday
Speaker 4: show in Chicago because you are Chicago in as well.
Speaker 3: It's be right, man, it's gonna be history. Man.
Speaker 4: Mind you mentioned native our town representative, so make sure
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Speaker 4: just wanted to rap with you for a minute, a
Speaker 4: few minutes before our show on Sunday, just to talk
Speaker 4: about a few topics. Man. It's a lot going on
Speaker 4: in the world, and I know you're you're an economist,
Speaker 4: so I want to get your opinion from the economy standpoint.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with the number one time topic, Israel Palestine.
Speaker 4: You don't have to give me your political views, but
Speaker 4: I rested to hear your economic views on this situation.
Speaker 5: Did you see Biden's press conference just now.
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy, I called the tail land of it.
Speaker 2: But I saw because you know, I got a few
Speaker 2: updates and stuff like that. But I see he's saying,
Speaker 2: you know, immediately you want to go before Congress. You
Speaker 2: want to get money for Israel as well as Ukraine.
Speaker 2: So you know, my overall view with those things is,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, war.
Speaker 3: Is always bad.
Speaker 2: Geopolitical tensions are always bad for the for the stock market,
Speaker 2: for the overall economy, right, And I think obviously when
Speaker 2: he goes before Congress and he's asking for more money,
Speaker 2: that's just a function of saying, the US debt is
Speaker 2: only continuing to grow. We had like thirty three trillion,
Speaker 2: like ten years ago, it was like ten trillion, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So the idea of like three
Speaker 2: xing over the past ten years is crazy, and that's
Speaker 2: just gonna have a ripple effect for the years to
Speaker 2: come on. Whether that's the tax rate of what you know,
Speaker 2: other different rates in general might be.
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I think, you.
Speaker 2: Know, war's never good unless unless you own you know,
Speaker 2: some of those you know, defense sector names, et cetera,
Speaker 2: oil names, et cetera.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's interesting that I think that they know.
Speaker 5: I think the politicians haven't fully.
Speaker 4: I don't think they have a good feel of the
Speaker 4: temperature and the climate just from the posts like we
Speaker 4: just we've been posting about just news topics, and I
Speaker 4: think there's a very anti war sentiment at.
Speaker 3: Least are followers.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, it's very anti war sediment. And it's a
Speaker 4: very anti give money to other country sediment that has
Speaker 4: been going on. And then like when I put the
Speaker 4: post up that one hundred billion dollars was requested, a
Speaker 4: lot some people didn't believe it. They're like, no, you
Speaker 4: made a mistake. It's a hundred million. I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: it's really a billion. So today he actually talked about
Speaker 4: that today that he wants to, you know, get money
Speaker 4: for Ukraine and for Israel. And like I said, they said,
Speaker 4: they're talking about one hundred one hundred million dollar package.
Speaker 4: So what are your thoughts for when people, you know,
Speaker 4: they a lot of people are concerned because they're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we have student loans.
Speaker 5: You denied student loan.
Speaker 4: Debt relief on a on a wide scale from the
Speaker 4: from on the federal from the federal court situation. But
Speaker 4: now we can go into one hundred million, one hundred
Speaker 4: billion dollars to fund outside wars that the average person
Speaker 4: doesn't see in any benefit in doing that.
Speaker 3: So what's your thoughts in that? Nah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So we you know, we don't really go too heavy
Speaker 2: into politics, but I shared a sentiment where a lot
Speaker 2: of people have to ask the question, like where's this
Speaker 2: money going and what's the benefit?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Like the way that they're going to try to pull
Speaker 2: the wool over certain people's eyes is they're gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, we are trying to maintain or I think
Speaker 2: they use a word like for national security. We need
Speaker 2: Ukraine not to.
Speaker 3: Be taken over, we need Israel or to this that, and.
Speaker 2: I think that national security we don't really understand that.
Speaker 2: So the average person, I'm not even gonna say the
Speaker 2: average person, just anybody for the most part, don't know
Speaker 2: what that means.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I remember when Silinski came before Congress and at this moment,
Speaker 2: we had gave Brown them like thirty billion, and he like, Yo,
Speaker 2: that's not enough, and we like, wait a minute, bro,
Speaker 2: Like and so the average person is like, one, why
Speaker 2: do we have to always be the person that kind
Speaker 2: of interject and say, hey, let's take this side of
Speaker 2: that side. But there's so many other things that we
Speaker 2: need to do with that type of money, and for me,
Speaker 2: I don't think giving bread to none of them is
Speaker 2: the right answer. However, I'm not privy to the type
Speaker 2: of national and security conversation that they might be having
Speaker 2: in an oval office.
Speaker 5: So what do you what are you invested in right now?
Speaker 4: I know you know you you you worked on Wall
Speaker 4: Street and you have the series and we talked to
Speaker 4: your children in the back of the car about investing
Speaker 4: in stocks and stuff like that. So what is some
Speaker 4: what some stocks? What are some ets like? What are
Speaker 4: you personally invested in? Or what's on your watch list?
Speaker 3: I love that what's on the watch list at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, I rock with Ian heavy.
Speaker 2: You always got to start off with the two, the
Speaker 2: two indices, right S and P and the Nasdaq after that,
Speaker 2: it's heavy first in tech, you know, so you're always
Speaker 2: looking at the Apple, dam Amazon, right, the Microsoft's.
Speaker 3: I think I love the semiconductor sectors.
Speaker 2: I think I love infrastructure, I love healthcare, and at
Speaker 2: the end of the end, of the day, right, I
Speaker 2: think anytime where you're looking at certain names being down
Speaker 2: to time, Like I'm not touching the travel sector yet,
Speaker 2: but it's been down like thirty pc over the past
Speaker 2: three months, So you're looking at stuff like that, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's now time. Like what Disney had crazy you know,
Speaker 2: crazy discount in the eighties is now time?
Speaker 3: Maybe not yet, but like there's.
Speaker 2: Certain names that will always continue to be on the
Speaker 2: watch list, and you're trying to see is now the
Speaker 2: time to you know, get into it.
Speaker 3: But I think the safest is always starting off.
Speaker 2: With the indices and from there just trying to own
Speaker 2: the most powerful tech companies in general.
Speaker 5: So let let's let me ask you about this, you know,
Speaker 5: trending topic. Cardi B.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this, but she has
Speaker 4: said that she would rather invest in burking bags because
Speaker 4: that's a better investment for her as opposed to real estate.
Speaker 4: And you know, when I first saw the headline, I'm like,
Speaker 4: but she actually made a pretty compelling argument. And be
Speaker 4: honest with you, anybody that has you know, I recently
Speaker 4: just brought a home to personally live in it. It's
Speaker 4: not always cracked up to be be honest with you,
Speaker 4: especially when you're building a home.
Speaker 5: My advice to anybody has never built a home.
Speaker 4: If I had to do it over, probably one of
Speaker 4: the worst mistakes I've ever made in my life.
Speaker 5: So when you're building that in New York.
Speaker 4: Okay, So she made some balifour and she was talking
Speaker 4: about how tenants, a lot of her tenants have not
Speaker 4: paid all kinds of issues property, The boiler breaks all
Speaker 4: kinds of stuff. Right, it's on situation. You could buy
Speaker 4: a stock and just not have anything to do with it all.
Speaker 4: If you're buying, you have, Man, it's not there's no
Speaker 4: such thing as passive income when it comes to us.
Speaker 4: I think that that's a phrase that in real estate.
Speaker 5: So what's your thoughts.
Speaker 4: On CARDI b saying that burking bags are a better
Speaker 4: investment than real estate.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, right, you got
Speaker 2: to look at a burking bag and understand that that's
Speaker 2: a different asset class.
Speaker 3: So it's not apples to apples, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So if you look at a burking bag, if you
Speaker 2: look at rolexes, if you look at wine, if you
Speaker 2: look at art, these are all different asset classes.
Speaker 3: That one our people don't know nothing about.
Speaker 2: All we know about is whether it's real estate or
Speaker 2: stocks for the most part. And crazy enough, right, rolexes
Speaker 2: have been doing better than the SMP over the past
Speaker 2: five ten years. And I got to look into burking Bags,
Speaker 2: but they have been having a crazy.
Speaker 4: They've been a preshiating like twenty five percent per year.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They got a crazy IRR and I and it was
Speaker 2: I had a home. I had a homegirl that worked
Speaker 2: at a at like a consignment store, and she was
Speaker 2: telling me like, man, this all it's a way that
Speaker 2: you even gotta be able to get into these places
Speaker 2: to be it on the Burking Bag. So it's a
Speaker 2: whole different asset class and the access to it. So
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, right, like scarcity gives
Speaker 2: anything value, right, And so there's only a certain amount
Speaker 2: of land in the world. But you've been in New York,
Speaker 2: you know they just building on top of people. But
Speaker 2: I think that you know real estate to your point,
Speaker 2: it's so many it's so many things that you can't control, right,
Speaker 2: the economy down or or interest rates higher, and you're
Speaker 2: trying to sell your crib and then it's so many
Speaker 2: it's so many things, but I love it.
Speaker 3: Like, at the end of the.
Speaker 2: Day, there's nothing wrong with having owning all types of
Speaker 2: different asset classes because mercans, you know.
Speaker 3: That that ain't that ain't none that I know.
Speaker 2: But I know the rolex market and I understand that
Speaker 2: they appreciate it, and it's and it's heavy, and so
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I think it's obvious
Speaker 2: some stuff you gotta do right where it's like, you
Speaker 2: can still live in this house and it's gonna appreciate
Speaker 2: You're gonna have all these different tax strategies that you
Speaker 2: can leverage, writing all type of other stuff you can leverage.
Speaker 2: Now with a Burking bag, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: buy a burkin for twenty five and I'm wearing it
Speaker 2: every day, or I'm you know, if I'm a girl
Speaker 2: I'm carrying it, I don't necessarily know if it's still gonna.
Speaker 3: Hold that value.
Speaker 2: Now if I'm buying a Burking and I'm putting it
Speaker 2: in the case and it's a crocodile and it was
Speaker 2: fifty racks, I come back in four years now it's
Speaker 2: they discontinue making this. So it was only that might
Speaker 2: be different. But you know, I think I can wear
Speaker 2: my ROLEI longest it's in good condition, it is still appreciated.
Speaker 4: So let me ask you that because you you have
Speaker 4: a pathway that I didn't have.
Speaker 5: Like you went to an Ivy League school.
Speaker 4: You actually went to one of the best universities in
Speaker 4: the world, Warden School of Business. Right, Yeah, that's like
Speaker 4: one of the business schools in the world. And then
Speaker 4: you worked on Wall Street, so you have a very
Speaker 4: interesting pedigree. What was your experience as a black man going.
Speaker 5: To an Ivy League school first?
Speaker 4: And then what was your experience working on on Wall Street?
Speaker 4: Which is probably ninety eight percent white. Hey, both of
Speaker 4: them culture shocks, especially like when you come from the
Speaker 4: inner cities. So I'm from Chicago, from the South Side Chicago, uh,
Speaker 4: and going to the going to Penn going to the
Speaker 4: Ivy League, it was six percent black. So instantly I think,
Speaker 4: and I tell people this all the time, the greatest
Speaker 4: teacher is exposure.
Speaker 2: I remember, the greatest teacher is exposure. It ain't everybody
Speaker 2: think it's like experience. When they say, oh, don't touch
Speaker 2: the iron because it's hot, and you will lookle kid.
Speaker 2: They gonna say, you know, don't touch it, and you're
Speaker 2: not gonna know what's hot until you truly touch it.
Speaker 2: That's cool if we're looking at it in the very
Speaker 2: small lens. The greatest teacher is exposure. And one of
Speaker 2: the things I remember as a surety coming from the
Speaker 2: south Side is I was exposed to you know, all right,
Speaker 2: it's other different races is you know, it's very diverse,
Speaker 2: but it was a diverse way of thinking too though, right.
Speaker 3: And so now you're in class with kids whose dads are.
Speaker 2: CEOs or foreign dignitaries, Mon's richest hell from Italy, you know,
Speaker 2: or all different coaches.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And the crazy thing was how people like we have
Speaker 2: trunk parties, we go the way to school. It was
Speaker 2: a kid that I was in Econ class with and
Speaker 2: to this day to changed my life because he was
Speaker 2: day trading in class, Asian kid day trading in Econ class.
Speaker 2: This is in two thousand and eight, so the big
Speaker 2: recession broke day trading and his graduation gift, his dad
Speaker 2: gifted him a portfolio as opposed to you know, the
Speaker 2: Trump party a little money and I'm a bad new
Speaker 2: computer without like bro So just the way I think you.
Speaker 4: Completely are you saying a trunk party, y'all got them
Speaker 4: in New York.
Speaker 5: I'm not familiar with the trunk.
Speaker 2: What is the Trump trunk party in Chicago? Maybe that's
Speaker 2: the Chicago stuff south off in the comments. If you've
Speaker 2: heard a trunk party, Black people know what the trunk
Speaker 2: party is is literally they're going away to college party
Speaker 2: where you know, you're getting your gifts or you're getting money.
Speaker 2: It's like the idea is like that, like a trunk
Speaker 2: is like a suitcase, you know, I mean a trunk,
Speaker 2: so you put in your gifts there, Well go a
Speaker 2: few yes, sirs. But the reality is a trunk is
Speaker 2: they putting stuff in there what you're gonna take with
Speaker 2: you to college.
Speaker 3: So it's pillows, sheets, whatever it is, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But what I'm saying, the.
Speaker 2: Damn near Yeah, then we're go seend kids off the
Speaker 2: school with a trunk full of stuff they gonna need.
Speaker 6: And so that I ain't no way, that's just Chicago's
Speaker 6: I got heard of a trunk for you before. It's
Speaker 6: a good I just I'm not familiar with Trump.
Speaker 2: It's definitely evolved where it ain't no actual trunk, but
Speaker 2: I could imagine back in the day it was a
Speaker 2: true truck, but a trunk, just a hardcover suitcase, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But the crazy thing is like
Speaker 2: the cultures are so different though where you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, you going to school and you know what
Speaker 2: you're going for.
Speaker 3: You groomed at a young age where.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I came back to the city
Speaker 2: right one, the access to you know, having the Wall
Speaker 2: Street firms on the Ivy League campus recruiting for their jobs,
Speaker 2: Whereas some of my peers I went to high school
Speaker 2: with and some of the homies, they coming back and
Speaker 2: they just bragging on how many girls they may have had,
Speaker 2: and they just chilling in Chicago where the coach where
Speaker 2: I was at paying everybody was trying to get an
Speaker 2: internship or trying to you know, pad their resume so
Speaker 2: that they can go to the respective careers that they
Speaker 2: moms and dads already.
Speaker 3: Was putting them on that on that path to.
Speaker 2: And so at the end of the day, exposure is
Speaker 2: crazy because it's just gonna help you understand the world
Speaker 2: from different lenses, and it's going to expose you to
Speaker 2: different ways people are making money. Right Like if you
Speaker 2: only from you know, East New York and you're from
Speaker 2: flat Bush and these the people in your hood, You're
Speaker 2: only gonna know what the most successful person in that
Speaker 2: hood is done. I'm from South Shore, so whoever was?
Speaker 2: You know, we see the people make it out. Oh
Speaker 2: this athlete or this type of person that's top d boy.
Speaker 5: It's a few.
Speaker 3: You know, you might see a doctor here and there.
Speaker 2: But now you're exposed to different levels of wealth, right,
Speaker 2: Like I thought I knew what rich was in high school,
Speaker 2: but college let me know what wealth was.
Speaker 3: And then working on Wall Street was crazy thing.
Speaker 4: I want to talk about that. You said something you
Speaker 4: said about your friend that was investing. You here the
Speaker 4: first person that you saw a day trading. So the
Speaker 4: crazy thing is this was probably, uh, it was the
Speaker 4: year that Donovan Mitchell got drafted. I forgot what, Yeah
Speaker 4: that was, but that was probably maybe like twenty spider, Yeah,
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen or something like that. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 4: while ago, but so I know I know his family.
Speaker 4: I know Donald Mitchell's family, right, So I went to
Speaker 4: I went to It was in the guard of the
Speaker 4: draft that year, was in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 5: I was already a professional.
Speaker 4: I was already in my twenties working as a financial advisor,
Speaker 4: and I went to the draft and they had a sweet.
Speaker 4: His family had a suite in the draft. I think
Speaker 4: it might have been a bark plays, but regardless that
Speaker 4: we had a sweet. Right, So I was in the
Speaker 4: suite and we have a mutual family friend where hit
Speaker 4: one of his family friends is a good friend of
Speaker 4: me and Troy as well. So their son went to
Speaker 4: I think he went to Stanford. He went to wanted
Speaker 4: to know he actually was high school. He went to
Speaker 4: like a private high school, right, it is very good
Speaker 4: high school in New York. And I met one of
Speaker 4: his friends. So this kid was like seventeen years old.
Speaker 4: I'm like twenty six, twenty five years old. He's like
Speaker 4: seventeen years years old. And we was having a conversation.
Speaker 4: White kid, and he was telling me about ethereal. He
Speaker 4: was the first person to ever tell me about ethereu.
Speaker 4: This is this coin called ethereal. He was explaining it
Speaker 4: to me. He was explaining to me how it worked
Speaker 4: because at the time I heard a bitcoin. He was
Speaker 4: telling me about extereum and he was telling me how.
Speaker 4: Now this is the part that's interesting. He's seventeen years old.
Speaker 4: And he just graduated from high school. So he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, my parents they gave me one hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars to invest. And he was like, I put thee
Speaker 4: hundred thousand into ethereum, turned one hundred thousand into a million.
Speaker 3: And he was like, now I'm trying to start a
Speaker 3: hedge funtm.
Speaker 4: Sventeen, seventeen years old, right, so that I'll never forget that.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that conversation because that just put it
Speaker 4: in perspective for me.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 5: That put come on back for me, like like.
Speaker 3: That Mama never even heard of a hands fun at seventeen, Bro.
Speaker 5: So there's there's so many different levels.
Speaker 4: So a the fact that at seventeen he even has
Speaker 4: enough awareness to even be interested in investing, that's one thing.
Speaker 4: Seventeen he's in a position to get one hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars from his family to invest, because if they give
Speaker 4: you one hundred thousand dollars to invest, that means that
Speaker 4: they have that's not even that's nothing like no, that's
Speaker 4: that's the second thing. The third thing is that he
Speaker 4: has enough information to know what to invest in, right.
Speaker 5: And then the fourth thing is.
Speaker 4: That he's aware that he turned Most seventeen year olds,
Speaker 4: you make a million dollars when you're.
Speaker 5: Seventeen years old, you're going crazy.
Speaker 4: He understands that that's just the beginning level, and he's
Speaker 4: already on to the next thing, talking about he wants
Speaker 4: to start a hedge funt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that just blew my mind.
Speaker 4: And I actually invested in Etherorium shortly after he told
Speaker 4: me that.
Speaker 5: But that just blew my mind.
Speaker 4: That was like I never had conversations like that with
Speaker 4: anybody in high school or anybody in life up until
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 5: And the first time I'm learned about this is a
Speaker 5: seventeen year old.
Speaker 4: So it's like a lot of times because I went
Speaker 4: to public school and private school. I went to public
Speaker 4: school my whole entire life, and I went to private
Speaker 4: school in my last two years of high school.
Speaker 5: And difference is it's like the wealth gap is so disturbing.
Speaker 4: For what I realized is that we don't even realize
Speaker 4: how far we are behind because it's a very segregated country.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: You usually live in communities similar everybody's similar to yourself,
Speaker 4: your circle is similar. So if you make eighty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars a year, you're communicating with people that make eighty.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars a year or less.
Speaker 4: Right, all of your problems, issues, aspirations, you'll kind of
Speaker 4: have the same. And you create your own algorithm, right,
Speaker 4: you create your own life algorithm where you're you're not
Speaker 4: aware of anything else, really, So three maths down the road,
Speaker 4: people that are making ten million dollars, five million dollars,
Speaker 4: eight million dollars, you're not even aware that this situation
Speaker 4: is even really happening. You have no you have no
Speaker 4: real inner workings of any of that. Right, So it's
Speaker 4: like you don't even really realize how far you are behind,
Speaker 4: because you never really get a real perspective of a.
Speaker 3: Different world until you're in that world. But most people never.
Speaker 4: Get an opportunity to even be so that you're consume
Speaker 4: with the world that they're in. But like I said,
Speaker 4: you have an interesting perspective because you you're in that
Speaker 4: you're in that world from the Ivy League perspective. And
Speaker 4: then for Wall Streets and not now, I would like
Speaker 4: to hear your your perspective on Wall Street.
Speaker 3: Working as a young black man and what did that
Speaker 3: look like? Bro?
Speaker 2: Everything you said just hit home because when we think
Speaker 2: about the wealth GAP's only.
Speaker 3: Exacerbated by the exposure gap.
Speaker 2: Like like you said, that kid had the information, not
Speaker 2: only just the capital, right, but he had the information
Speaker 2: because it's it's a mods in the hood that could
Speaker 2: get a hundred racks easy, but they don't have the
Speaker 2: easy A lot of them here for about twenty to
Speaker 2: forty on the PPP.
Speaker 3: So it's the same. It's the same thing, right, the
Speaker 3: whole hood hit for the PPP.
Speaker 2: But the idea of actually now having the exposure to
Speaker 2: attaining that information, to now taking that capital to the
Speaker 2: next level.
Speaker 3: And so that's why I said, when I got.
Speaker 2: Him at my school, it was crazy, right, because now
Speaker 2: I'm exposed to so many different avenues and thought processes
Speaker 2: when it came to attaining wealth. People that are running
Speaker 2: you know, websites like well okay, people that are working
Speaker 2: on startups this said eighteen. Right, it's a different conversation
Speaker 2: when you're seeing people, you know, Asian kids that are
Speaker 2: coding and stuff.
Speaker 3: What the hell is that? You know?
Speaker 2: I mean, the coolest kids for us was guys who
Speaker 2: getting the girls, the athletes. You might be cool, you
Speaker 2: get a nice car, But now it's a different conversation.
Speaker 3: Guys are working on apps, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And so the crazy thing when I got to Wall Street,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, in my mind, I made it. I
Speaker 2: felt like an athlete. But I just realized that it
Speaker 2: was a small stepping stone to what else the world
Speaker 2: had to offer. Because you know, I got on the
Speaker 2: desk in twenty twelve and Morgan Stanley and I was
Speaker 2: the first black guy on this trading desk in the history.
Speaker 2: That's crazy twenty twelve. But the greatest thing once again
Speaker 2: about the.
Speaker 5: First person Morgan Stanley's trading desk.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: On my particular desk, I was on the high Yeld desk,
Speaker 2: on the High Yeo desk, it was other brothers on there,
Speaker 2: you know, one guy over there Ig of Muni's and
Speaker 2: one dude upstairs and in rates and uh yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: but no on my particular I yield leverage loans distressed.
Speaker 3: I was the first and working full time. They might
Speaker 3: have had one that was an intern, but that wasn't
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: But now now to really talk about the exposure, because
Speaker 2: if anybody's ever been on the trading desk, you're side
Speaker 2: by side, back and back to back to people and
Speaker 2: it's just long rolls and everybody got you know, six
Speaker 2: computer screens and three to four whatever. Right, And the
Speaker 2: greatest thing was one of the conversations that you're exposed to, right,
Speaker 2: You hear people talked about what they're investing in, and
Speaker 2: then things that you just see where people checking their
Speaker 2: their four one K. And I remember the first time
Speaker 2: I seen real bread was I'm walking down my aisle
Speaker 2: and one of the mds he wasn't even ahead on
Speaker 2: the desk, he was just an MD managing director. He
Speaker 2: checked his four to one K. He had like three
Speaker 2: million in there, so he rebalanced and stuff, and I'm
Speaker 2: sitting like what is that? And at that moment you
Speaker 2: think about it, like the average person from the inner
Speaker 2: city they won, right, people don't even even understand benefits,
Speaker 2: so they don't know like, okay, my full Like they
Speaker 2: don't even know what they're for. One kids being invested in.
Speaker 2: Half of them it might be a target day fund.
Speaker 2: Some of them is getting the money market fund, which
Speaker 2: is cash equivalent, so your money really ain't growing. And
Speaker 2: so just he the exposure made me want to yearn
Speaker 2: and learn more because I'm like, bro, how Sam got
Speaker 2: two three million, and why is he rebalancing?
Speaker 3: So now I'm thinking about how he's doing that. Oh
Speaker 3: I'm hearing these.
Speaker 2: Guys on the desk talked about Oh I'm looking at
Speaker 2: this mining drilling company and YadA YadA. But like just
Speaker 2: the conversations, right one guy telling me about why he
Speaker 2: got an LLC and how he's writing off his dry
Speaker 2: cleaning and all.
Speaker 3: Of his his suits.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so, but the exposure is just one
Speaker 2: at that level. And then I went to a fund
Speaker 2: when I moved back to Chicago. Crazy thing is just
Speaker 2: being in and obviously y'all doing it in front of
Speaker 2: the world by being on on on stage with the
Speaker 2: Robert Smiths and the Kathy was in the Novgrats, But
Speaker 2: like I'm I was in a few, not a few.
Speaker 2: I was in meetings every day with hedge fund managers,
Speaker 2: portfolio managers and people that ran hedgephones. And now you're
Speaker 2: just doing the backwards math for how much that worth
Speaker 2: and on top of that, how they think. And one
Speaker 2: of the dopest means I was it was with Ken Griffin.
Speaker 2: He's Citadel. He one of the richest dudes out here.
Speaker 2: He gotta be over nine nine bees. But Fam didn't blink, Bro,
Speaker 2: And what was crazy to me was just how machine
Speaker 2: like he was before there was ai that we knew.
Speaker 2: How just he didn't blink the whole meet meeting FAM.
Speaker 2: If you level watch an interview of Ken Griffin, see
Speaker 2: how we talked. We blink as we with our expressions,
Speaker 2: you can get one of the things I love when
Speaker 2: I do public speaking, I count how many times people say,
Speaker 2: just randomly I do that. I was trying to count
Speaker 2: how many times he blink, brought on blink. He a
Speaker 2: him machine Bro. But going to that point though, now
Speaker 2: talking about exposure, Now, I was thinking about different alternative
Speaker 2: methods of what people.
Speaker 3: Are investing in.
Speaker 2: Right, So I remember having a meeting with a specialty
Speaker 2: finance company and this what was a true turning point
Speaker 2: was they were invested. They own a portfolio of cash
Speaker 2: advanced loan places.
Speaker 3: So when you sit.
Speaker 2: There one, it's a phenomenal investment if you on the
Speaker 2: other side, right, Oh, it's uncorrelated to the market.
Speaker 3: It's in black and brown neighborhoods. They charging five hundred
Speaker 3: percent return.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they charging five hundred percent interest on the
Speaker 2: money they borrowing at this and they're doing this. So
Speaker 2: now you look at you say, bro one, us as
Speaker 2: a community, we don't pray, right, we're getting prayed on.
Speaker 2: And even more importantly, was like, wow, there's so many
Speaker 2: different investment strategies.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I was sitting across from several portfolio managers for reinsurance.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So to your point when you talked about the the
Speaker 2: burking bag, there's nothing wrong with having these uncorrelated investments
Speaker 2: because it's people making millions of dollars purely buying the
Speaker 2: flood insurance and the hurricane insurance that you have through
Speaker 2: your insurance companies. And so I think at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, bro exposure is something that before the
Speaker 2: power of social media, sometimes you just needed to be
Speaker 2: in those you know, being at a white firm and
Speaker 2: a white school. You know, I didn't I didn't really
Speaker 2: get to pick and choose, kind of like social media,
Speaker 2: who you follow, because you're you're in the halls with
Speaker 2: these people every day.
Speaker 3: And I say, I wouldn't be where I was.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't been investing in two thousand and eight if
Speaker 2: it wasn't for sitting next to a guy he had
Speaker 2: twenty five racks. To your point, to your homie who
Speaker 2: got one hundred racks. This Asian guy had got twenty five,
Speaker 2: and that's that's how he started investing with twenty five.
Speaker 2: And it's just different conversations that our community ain't privy to.
Speaker 3: And that's why it's important.
Speaker 4: No, education is extremely important, you know, Like we come
Speaker 4: from working class neighborhood and I'll never to get like
Speaker 4: first time we used to work at a community center
Speaker 4: at a camp and when we got the first pay check,
Speaker 4: everybody went to. It was a check cashing place right
Speaker 4: next to a Chinese restaurant. And we went to the
Speaker 4: check cashing place and save two hundred dollars and they
Speaker 4: give you like one hundred and ninety dollars and they
Speaker 4: cash a check for you, and nobody ever questioned it.
Speaker 4: But the crazy thing is that there was actually a bank,
Speaker 4: probably two hundred yards away from a check cashing place,
Speaker 4: exactly easily could have opened a bank account, but nobody
Speaker 4: even thought about that. It was just like, yo, this
Speaker 4: is just cold. This is how you get your money.
Speaker 4: When you get a check, you give it to them
Speaker 4: and they give you the money for the check. And
Speaker 4: it's predatorory lending bro and it is something that like
Speaker 4: I said, I've never seen a check, never see a
Speaker 4: check cashing place.
Speaker 5: In the white neighborhood.
Speaker 3: No, never checks.
Speaker 5: I've never seen a check gash place in the white neighborhood.
Speaker 5: I've never seen it before ever in life.
Speaker 4: But these once again, this goes back to education is
Speaker 4: being educated, right, And it's like so many things when
Speaker 4: you just look back on life and it's like information
Speaker 4: is just everything, man, because it's like these these bits
Speaker 4: of information could literally life changing. Like what you don't
Speaker 4: know want to keep you in the same position that
Speaker 4: you're in forever for right, and just learning something different
Speaker 4: can actually change your life. But now your whole family's
Speaker 4: trajectory going forward. Yeah, bro, like the idea of people.
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Speaker 2: Get mad at the fact that there's no currency in
Speaker 2: change or cash advanced, none of that in the white neighborhood,
Speaker 2: but it's going to be in the black and brown
Speaker 2: Seldom will it be in an Asian or Indian neighborhood me.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, Bro, it's in our hoods.
Speaker 2: And imagine, BRO, because now I'm in a position when
Speaker 2: I was at my shop, I'm in a position because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look good. So I'm imagine saying, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a great investment. It's traditionally uncorrelated to the market.
Speaker 2: It's crazy returns. You know, these people are getting money
Speaker 2: and they're return on the capital that they're either lending
Speaker 2: out or you know, it's two hundred and three four
Speaker 2: five hundred percent. And so when you're sitting there looking
Speaker 2: at that, it's not until you like take the blinders off.
Speaker 2: You like, wait a minute, game we at the dinner table,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so to your point,
Speaker 2: like information not only could change your life in the
Speaker 2: trajectory or your family, but it's so important to understand
Speaker 2: what we consume because a lot of stuff be you know, propaganda,
Speaker 2: et cetera.
Speaker 3: But it's important to understand what we're doing with our free.
Speaker 2: Time because we get lost the way on scrolling and
Speaker 2: following different things, or lost the way on Netflix. Netflix
Speaker 2: crazy because they give you five seconds to say that
Speaker 2: you want to watch the next episode and then it's
Speaker 2: just instantly on and so you look up. You then
Speaker 2: bends five hours and not understanding the world that's around us.
Speaker 2: That for the most part, we don't have a seat
Speaker 2: at the table, we're not owning nothing, and so like
Speaker 2: having going to that school, And that's something that I
Speaker 2: go back and forth with because all my siblings for
Speaker 2: the most part, want to HBCUs and so I'll be thinking, like,
Speaker 2: you know, what I want to want my kids go
Speaker 2: to HBCU, or what I want them to be exposed to,
Speaker 2: what I was exposed to or granted because now I
Speaker 2: was exposed to maybe they can go to an HBCU
Speaker 2: or so I kind of go back and forth. For
Speaker 2: the most part, I want them to go to Canada
Speaker 2: route I went to. But like the conversations is different,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have you have kids, you have young children, right,
Speaker 4: So this is something that a lot of parents struggle with,
Speaker 4: especially like when you start So a problem with the
Speaker 4: problem with when you start to make money as a
Speaker 4: black person is that you're faced with some dilemmas. It's
Speaker 4: a very weird situation to have money as a black
Speaker 4: person because in most parts of the country, if you
Speaker 4: want to move to a really nice neighborhood, be predominantly white.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, well that's an issue because now you're the
Speaker 4: only black person in the neighborhood, and that's weird. And
Speaker 4: then you have to send your kids to school with
Speaker 4: all white children, and especially when they're young, that's a
Speaker 4: very dangerous situation to put a child in because they're
Speaker 4: never going to be fully accepted as a white person
Speaker 4: because they're not white. And they're going to lose a
Speaker 4: level of cultural identity because they're never going to be
Speaker 4: able to fully identify with the vast majority of black
Speaker 4: people because they become out of touch. So now they
Speaker 4: become kind of like they walk a very thin line.
Speaker 4: I've noticed this with a lot of black kids that
Speaker 4: grew up in white neighborhoods where they do like weird
Speaker 4: cultural like they try to overdo it sometimes.
Speaker 3: Try to just it's it's a weird it's it's a
Speaker 3: weird space.
Speaker 4: But then it's like, okay, do you put them in
Speaker 4: a black environment, right. Problem with that, unfortunately is that
Speaker 4: a lot of times the educational system or just the
Speaker 4: environment is not the greatest. But now now when you
Speaker 4: put somebody who is obvious that the kid has a
Speaker 4: level of wealth, right or advantages.
Speaker 5: So when you put.
Speaker 4: It's hard to be the richest kid, to be the
Speaker 4: richest kid, right, because now it's like there's a certain
Speaker 4: level of envy, jealousy, and it's just a certain level
Speaker 4: of just not at a certain point in time, you're
Speaker 4: not going to be able to relate. And that can
Speaker 4: cause issues, right, because then do you start to do
Speaker 4: you start to do things to self sabotage yourself to
Speaker 4: fit in with your friends who are or a socio
Speaker 4: economic environment, right, And that causes challenges for the growth
Speaker 4: of a child because now they can potentially hurt their
Speaker 4: growth by trying to fit in in a situation that
Speaker 4: they're not familiar with, Like they wasn't raised like that,
Speaker 4: they're not from that environment, but now they're trying to
Speaker 4: fit into that environment to make themselves comfortable with their friends.
Speaker 4: Very interesting dynamic that parents have to consider. None think
Speaker 4: in fact, what's best for your child, right, So what's
Speaker 4: your what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy? And because I went to school
Speaker 3: on the East Coast.
Speaker 2: I understand that dilemma is even harder for y'all because
Speaker 2: for the most part, you're asking the difference between private
Speaker 2: school and public school, right ps, and you all the
Speaker 2: name of y'all school's got a number on.
Speaker 3: It, type shit.
Speaker 2: And Chicago, lucky enough, there are a few good enough
Speaker 2: public schools that are diverse where you might have twenty
Speaker 2: five is thirty, that twenty is fifteen, where it's like
Speaker 2: really diverse. And that was my that was my experience
Speaker 2: in Chicago, and thanks to Mom's because I didn't go
Speaker 2: to my neighborhood school, I went to a school I
Speaker 2: had to test in for elementary school. If I would
Speaker 2: have went to my neighborhood school, one hundred percent black,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent underfunded, right, But luckily I went to
Speaker 2: a schoo school where it was very diverse and white friends.
Speaker 2: I don't remember him coming over to my house, but
Speaker 2: I went over to his, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And then the same with high school. I went to
Speaker 2: Whitney Young, same school Michelle Obama went to, and it's
Speaker 2: one of the more diverse. But I think that's a
Speaker 2: real crazy question because even there, right, you kind of
Speaker 2: know who the rich kids.
Speaker 3: Sons and daughters is.
Speaker 2: And I think to a level of comfort, you can
Speaker 2: ask yourself, right, because I got homies here that went
Speaker 2: to you know, private schools, et cetera, and those where
Speaker 2: you're gonna be one of only one of a few
Speaker 2: on the black side. But I think that that dilemma
Speaker 2: is way harder on the East Coast because we.
Speaker 3: Got a few decent schools here.
Speaker 2: That's on the on the public side, So you ain't
Speaker 2: gotta pay no bread, and it's gonna give your kid
Speaker 2: the ability to be able to almost be more chameleon like,
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, my kids will
Speaker 2: not be able to relate to my upbringing. They just
Speaker 2: want now they not gonna necessarily be able to relate
Speaker 2: to some of their white counterparts upbringing either, especially if
Speaker 2: I move to a like you say, a predominantly white
Speaker 2: neighborhood and we go to that.
Speaker 3: To that neighborhood school.
Speaker 2: But to actually have that self identity and ensure my
Speaker 2: kids don't have that imposter syndrome, I think it's important
Speaker 2: to one let them continue to know their cousins, let
Speaker 2: them continue to hoop in those in them tournaments, you know,
Speaker 2: in those basketball tournaments, and you know, do those type
Speaker 2: of things. But that's a crazy question, only because I
Speaker 2: know what you're thinking about, because like the people that
Speaker 2: live in New York, that's a big question. You got
Speaker 2: to pay thirty forty rats to get a good school,
Speaker 2: whereas here, you know the politics. Hopefully my kids make
Speaker 2: it into the school. If not, we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: figure out who palms. We got agrees. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think that, come on, come on that what's what's
Speaker 2: the famous people that that that was at Stanford? The
Speaker 2: actress that got into I don't I don't feel bad
Speaker 2: for you know, she did the right thing. But I
Speaker 2: think that's a crazy thing though, because that identity, that
Speaker 2: identity crisis is real, and especially in Chicago, because what
Speaker 2: we see is perceived or other many inner cities is
Speaker 2: like this, don't make you black because you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you're drilling and all that. Like nah, So
Speaker 2: it's a it's different elements that you definitely want to
Speaker 2: ensure that you want protect your kids from too getting
Speaker 2: them the best education. But like I get what you're saying,
Speaker 2: and and and once again, I plan to live in
Speaker 2: the best neighborhoods.
Speaker 3: However, I want them to be in a position to
Speaker 3: go to a mixed.
Speaker 4: School though, Like I'm very big, I don't want to
Speaker 4: live in a white neighborhood.
Speaker 5: I would feel I don't. I don't think I would
Speaker 5: feel comfortable.
Speaker 4: I do want to get that, I want to I'm
Speaker 4: comfortable in a diverse community. Diverse, but this not a
Speaker 4: lot of diverse communities. So there are diverse communities out there,
Speaker 4: you just have to seek it. But yeah, if you're
Speaker 4: fortunate enough to live like in PG County, that's a
Speaker 4: pretty affluent black sub and that's that's good. Or like
Speaker 4: Baldwin Hills in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Ye, in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of places in Atlanta right where you
Speaker 4: have like thriving black upper class. That's important. But unfortunately,
Speaker 4: we don't have a lot of those communities in America.
Speaker 4: We have like pockets here and there. Yeah, but there's
Speaker 4: not a lot of black thriving upper class. Nobody ever
Speaker 4: talks about that we need a black upper class community.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You always try to say, like, okay, the black middle class,
Speaker 4: but the black middle class has been stagnant for seventy years.
Speaker 4: We need we need more black upper classy and.
Speaker 2: I and I think and when you kind of I
Speaker 2: took a psychology class and they was trying to talk
Speaker 2: about what the black elite upper class look like.
Speaker 3: It's the parents are.
Speaker 2: Sending their daughters and having coterilions and or the jack
Speaker 2: and jails of the world. But to your point, like
Speaker 2: where they all live and like you say, PG County heavy,
Speaker 2: I went to school with a lot of them, Baldwin Hills.
Speaker 2: I had had a classmate that was on that TV show.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like you know, Chicago, I guess, yeah, ours
Speaker 2: is more diverse, you know if you live in I
Speaker 2: mean you got cause what's that?
Speaker 4: What's it like Bronsville was just brons about to say,
Speaker 4: you got Bronsville.
Speaker 3: But it's still some elements there too, though elements element it's.
Speaker 2: Not unknown for marks, you know, it's it's elements everywhere,
Speaker 2: you know, So it's it's.
Speaker 3: Those are the unfortunate realities. It be real going.
Speaker 4: Though, Oh man, nah, this is no it's interesting conversation.
Speaker 4: Like I said, this is stuff that you know unfortunately,
Speaker 4: like you know, black people we got it was so
Speaker 4: much stuff, man that other people don't think of other
Speaker 4: people and just get money and just pay the taxes.
Speaker 4: That's all they got worry about just paying a taxes.
Speaker 4: We gotta get money. Think about how do we want
Speaker 4: our kids to grow up? How much exposure do we
Speaker 4: give them. We got to think about like people that
Speaker 4: we know from the old neighborhood that still you get
Speaker 4: to look.
Speaker 3: At relatives that want a little.
Speaker 4: Bit during like lingering street elements that still have some
Speaker 4: some you never really fully you never really fully escaped
Speaker 4: this situation if you're black.
Speaker 2: It's called survivals, survivors, remorse, and at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, what they say, birds of a feather flock together.
Speaker 2: But to a degree, you're gonna feel a little bit
Speaker 2: guilty if the people that you've come up with, you
Speaker 2: guys you know, go in different paths. However, once again,
Speaker 2: if information is the equalizer, I feel compelled at a
Speaker 2: minimum to try to give them the information that I
Speaker 2: have come across from my world that can hopefully help
Speaker 2: elevate them at a minimum, their kids. At a minimum,
Speaker 2: I want to make sure at every one of the
Speaker 2: homies got life in stores at a minimum, at a minimum,
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't we right, like, and so you know to
Speaker 2: that point, like you say, it's most most white kids
Speaker 2: that I went to school with, they graduate and not
Speaker 2: thinking about having to start work right away because most
Speaker 2: of them right but once again, I went to a
Speaker 2: different type of school. They not thinking about having us
Speaker 2: start you know, work right away because well they might
Speaker 2: not have had to take out those student loans.
Speaker 3: They mom and dad might be able.
Speaker 2: To pick up the phone to get them whatever type
Speaker 2: of job, so right they senior year might just been
Speaker 2: more lavish for better Yet they might have said, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to go backpack and in Europe for a
Speaker 2: year and find my true passion.
Speaker 3: But we'll come to us.
Speaker 2: Like, bro, the free like money gives freedom, It gives
Speaker 2: access to the stuff.
Speaker 3: That other people don't have.
Speaker 2: And one of the greatest safety news, well, one of
Speaker 2: the greatest things don't want to try to give my
Speaker 2: kids is that freedom. Because I said, bro, if Mark
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg parents was broke, we would never have had Facebook.
Speaker 3: Think about that, bro.
Speaker 2: If you from the hood and you tell your mama,
Speaker 2: I'm at Harve and I'm finna drop out because I
Speaker 2: want to work on an app.
Speaker 3: Oh, you don't come home.
Speaker 2: You you know what I'm saying, Like the level of
Speaker 2: even trying to articulate that to your mom or you're dead.
Speaker 3: Think about that, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And so the idea, and you know, people they say, oh, well,
Speaker 2: such and such gotta he only got that business.
Speaker 3: Because he got a loan from his parents.
Speaker 2: I mean, his parents did the right shit, Like who
Speaker 2: wanted their kids to start off from square one? And
Speaker 2: so there's a level of freedom that I was. Damn
Speaker 2: they're jealous of because I'm wow, how fam don't you
Speaker 2: just traveling the world. You ain't got no student loans,
Speaker 2: you ain't got no relative asking you for no bread?
Speaker 2: That's crazy, you know what I'm saying. Like, I remember
Speaker 2: when I started in New York. Bro, I'm living in Harlem.
Speaker 2: I'm living with the other black people. To your point,
Speaker 2: but I was trying to get the cheapest rent. My
Speaker 2: rint might have been forteen fifty my first year in
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. The people I'm working with, I'm asking them
Speaker 2: where they live. Oh, I'm in Cherry Head Hill. I'm
Speaker 2: in I Bro, everybody lived damn near I'm in. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I'm in the like everything. I'm
Speaker 2: in Gramercy.
Speaker 4: Park, I'm in Harlem, I'm I'm intern, I'm living in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Like so like the idea of just stuff like that. Laugh.
Speaker 2: They couldn't even or they couldn't relate to that, where's
Speaker 2: where's Harlem?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Or oh wow, okay, then to your point of the
Speaker 2: trying to be accepted. Oh I live on the Upper
Speaker 2: East Side and he's say, oh where oh one two fifthful.
Speaker 8: One is this way? He get a look, Oh, just
Speaker 8: just slightly north for the park. It hit different. Hey, hey, bro,
Speaker 8: that that's some of the funniest ship.
Speaker 3: Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 4: Nah man, this is real, real conversations. But look man, Chicago, Chicago,
Speaker 4: we are coming. Ross Mack will be joining us on
Speaker 4: stage for Market Mondays Live Chicago. Market Monday is the
Speaker 4: world tour and in four countries and three continents. So
Speaker 4: we did La, we did two showed out shows in Toronto,
Speaker 4: we did sold out show in London Chicago which is
Speaker 4: on its way to son I'll get your tickets now,
Speaker 4: click the link. We got shottown. Can't break the street.
Speaker 4: We gotta keep the streak going. And then we're gonna
Speaker 4: end the year in Ghana. That's gonna be big. We're
Speaker 4: gonna on the continent of Africa and we're gonna bring
Speaker 4: in the New Year.
Speaker 5: It's like Belly if you actually have to go to Africa, like.
Speaker 3: The sequel of Belly, Let's go be hard.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna being Ghana.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be in Ghana for New Years for market Monday.
Speaker 4: But now it's been it's been a great experience and
Speaker 4: just to be able to travel and you know, just
Speaker 4: see different people in different regions. Everybody got different you know, aspirations,
Speaker 4: different goals, and I really like this, this thing that
Speaker 4: we've been able to put together. So thank you for
Speaker 4: rocking with us and joining us for this. Definitely looking
Speaker 4: for Chicago. Also, the last thing I think about this
Speaker 4: is that Chicago has a bad reputation.
Speaker 5: And I feel like even I tell people, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, were going to Chicago.
Speaker 4: First thing, the first thing they say to me is like,
Speaker 4: be sick. Oh I ain't going out there to watch it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, bro, not even like that. Like I
Speaker 4: feel like if any if you if you're looking for
Speaker 4: a problem or if you're doing if you stupid and
Speaker 4: you going to a neighborhood that you know, you shouldn't
Speaker 4: be in at twelve o'clock at night. And of course,
Speaker 4: but it's like to me, it has one of the
Speaker 4: greatest architectures I've ever seen as far as the city is,
Speaker 4: downtown architecture is beautiful. Even myself he was on the
Speaker 4: South side, Like it's no problem, Like I feel like
Speaker 4: you know, it's.
Speaker 3: It's important to change narratives. Yeah, that's important. Look, man, Chicago.
Speaker 2: Voted one of the most beautiful cities in the world,
Speaker 2: not just America, in the world, and at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, summertime, Shi is second to none. And
Speaker 2: like you say, it's a it's a culture, it's a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a city with extreme rich culture. Matter
Speaker 2: of fact, New York and Chicago than black folks was
Speaker 2: coming up up from Mississippi, up from you know that
Speaker 2: that Harlem Renaissance era that they either went to Chicago,
Speaker 2: went up to Detroit or over to New York. And
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we got a lot
Speaker 2: of rich culture here, a lot of beautiful people here,
Speaker 2: a lot of great businesses, a lot of black dope
Speaker 2: owned businesses. But at the end of the day, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you say, changing the narrative
Speaker 2: is important because you know, every city got the negative stuff,
Speaker 2: but for the most part it be confined. And once
Speaker 2: all said done, you know we're gonna make history. Man
Speaker 2: market mondays, We're doing it here in Chicago. The best
Speaker 2: city is probably I mean, maybe I'm biased, but I
Speaker 2: think this is gonna be the best show ever. That's
Speaker 2: just how Chicago's gonna do. We're gonna, you know, everybody
Speaker 2: gonna pull up pop out.
Speaker 4: It's like that for sure, for sure. So shouts and
Speaker 4: I guy Drake in the Commons suit. You know he'll
Speaker 4: be in the building absolutely acker expert himself.
Speaker 3: Hey the knack of for next kid, he one of
Speaker 3: them ones.
Speaker 4: That's my that's my dog man. Shout out to Chicago. Man,
Speaker 4: can't wait to get out there. Always love whenever we
Speaker 4: touched the city. So think in advance for the hospitality.
Speaker 4: Chicago has always been good to us.
Speaker 3: And some of the best food in the country. Don't
Speaker 3: forget that.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking to a New Yorker and I'm and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm talking crazy.
Speaker 4: Some of the best food in the country. It's overrated.
Speaker 4: I'ma be honest with you. The Deep Dish pizza I
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't enjoy that at all.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't even that is that that's overrated? Listen listen
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 3: Listen the dollar slices that once was in New York.
Speaker 3: They dry, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Cardboard, it's like just putting cheese on the cardboard, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like, at the end of the day, bro,
Speaker 2: New York is solid. I got a lot of love.
Speaker 4: I lived there for you know a little over three years,
Speaker 4: and THEMN then more because I interned there for three
Speaker 4: summers too, So I rock with New York.
Speaker 2: But I foll it's like that. It's like that we
Speaker 2: got some of the top everything, and it's and it's diverse,
Speaker 2: just like y'all. Like we got crazy diversity too, though,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get some there there. You can't get
Speaker 2: chicken in New York. That's smacking like Harolds. It's just
Speaker 2: not possible. I've never had a good fried chicken. And
Speaker 2: I mean, you could go to What's what's that on
Speaker 2: one sixteen.
Speaker 5: Not Sylvie. Sylvie's on High twenty fourth, right.
Speaker 2: Sylvie is, and then the other one Amy Roos, Like
Speaker 2: it's cool.
Speaker 3: It's a real you know southern field.
Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to get a five piece hard
Speaker 2: gets the mouth sauce.
Speaker 3: I'm going about my day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So Chicago one of them ones.
Speaker 2: We got way better steakhouses than y'all. Absolutely, it's not
Speaker 2: even a question. Yeah, bro, if.
Speaker 3: You it's Ricardo's one of your top steakhouses.
Speaker 4: I don't eat stick. I don't eat stick. I don't Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't want to. I want to know how you coming.
Speaker 4: But you know, New York is actually known for the steakhouses.
Speaker 4: You know that, right, No, we we know them for that.
Speaker 2: We in the Midwest, Bro, we had real slaughter houses
Speaker 2: where like we had a whole section where we was
Speaker 2: the ones chopping the stuff and sending it out. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well look, hey, distance is a chain. Whoever
Speaker 2: said that that's they got that? In New York and Chicago,
Speaker 2: we got stuff that ain't changed.
Speaker 4: I'm interested in trying some restaurants while I'm out there.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna show you a good time Asian confusion.
Speaker 5: If you have one of those those type of vibes
Speaker 5: going on.
Speaker 2: You forget that, you know, not the change, because everybody
Speaker 2: got time. We got you know, we got.
Speaker 4: Other food snobs, so I definitely, you know, I was
Speaker 4: gonna I wanted to have a food up. It ain't
Speaker 4: too late, it's not, it's really not. So maybe maybe
Speaker 4: went through the pilot in Chicago.
Speaker 3: It's like that, that'll be. I mean, what better place,
Speaker 3: what better place?
Speaker 2: Well, there you have the Mexican food they y'all, y'all
Speaker 2: gonna have us on the on the on some West
Speaker 2: Indian though, y'all got us for sure, y'all gonna have Mexican.
Speaker 5: Coach is not really huge in New York.
Speaker 3: It's I know. That's why I have to say somebody
Speaker 3: that I knew I had a one up on.
Speaker 4: It's more Dominican. Dominican. Yeah, uh, definitely Jamaican. West Indian
Speaker 4: for sure, cheat that onus. I lived in Spanish hard.
Speaker 4: I'm already norm Yeah, all right, batter or the food
Speaker 4: now now I'm interested. Now I'm interested. We gotta make reservations,
Speaker 4: make some reservations for Saturday. Shall we Let's do it
Speaker 4: Saturday night. We're gonna make reservations. We bring the gang out.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna be the judges, be the judges.
Speaker 2: It's easy work, man, I mean you don't come in
Speaker 2: just mad off the stress when you gotta let us know, like, okay,
Speaker 2: that is better, you know for sure?
Speaker 3: For legal.
Speaker 5: The Deep Dish.
Speaker 4: The Deep Dish was so hyped up, and I said,
Speaker 4: what did I eat? It was one of these famous
Speaker 4: places too, that's downtown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you it was either like Giandnal's.
Speaker 5: It's two famous it's two famous places.
Speaker 4: Oh are you talking about Illuminatis Luminati? I should have
Speaker 4: known known by the name because it sounds like it
Speaker 4: sounds like Illuminati. But I went to Luminati and they
Speaker 4: gave I knew I was in trouble when they gave
Speaker 4: me a fork and a knife.
Speaker 5: I don't understand why they go fork and a knife
Speaker 5: to eat pizza.
Speaker 3: It's an experience.
Speaker 4: It was doe with tomato sauce, a lot of dough
Speaker 4: with tomato sauce on it.
Speaker 5: Cheese, and they said, that's the best place to go.
Speaker 2: Hey, but you want to know, it's crazy though, Chicago
Speaker 2: people really don't eat Deep Dish though, like the New
Speaker 2: Yorker probably has never went visited the Statue of Liberty, Like,
Speaker 2: we don't eat deep this, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like that that's outer town or thing. If you go
Speaker 2: in there and everybody, chances are ninety percent of the
Speaker 2: people in wherever you at.
Speaker 3: They from out of town.
Speaker 5: What's the best restaurant in Chicago?
Speaker 3: The spot? That's what's wrong? Your father?
Speaker 5: What's your favorite restaurant?
Speaker 3: Mmm?
Speaker 2: Then I was got to ask the missis whole time
Speaker 2: though Steak forty eight a hit? I like, Uh, I'm
Speaker 2: a steak guy. I'm probably I don't know. I ain't
Speaker 2: ain't watching none of them, like things on on Netflix
Speaker 2: that was telling me why meat.
Speaker 3: Is bad for me.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched that, so I've been avoiding that. I
Speaker 2: probably should. But then I got you got Joe's Stone Crab?
Speaker 3: What's another one? What's another one that might be? From? Now?
Speaker 3: I know what?
Speaker 4: Some others though, the one that we went to that time,
Speaker 4: that was we pull up on the boat.
Speaker 2: That's heavy, that's that's a crazy flex too, and Rashana
Speaker 2: just see the boat to pull up to the boat.
Speaker 3: It felt like we were about to go to Long Marina.
Speaker 2: Uh hey it was it might have been Stake forty eight,
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 3: I think it was Stake? No, no, no, no, my bad,
Speaker 3: my bad SDK it might have been K.
Speaker 5: It wasn't that s K.
Speaker 3: It was it's on that block though.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It was hmmm, I think it was.
Speaker 3: I don't know, no more, let's see, and that was
Speaker 3: s DK. I knew I want to eat, was it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was t K because I went that not that long.
Speaker 2: I mean, I went nothing long after it was st K.
Speaker 2: But that was a flex. Oh you got some great eating.
Speaker 2: You got some great eats on the on the river too,
Speaker 2: though you know what I'm saying, you ain't really eating
Speaker 2: on the on the Hudson River like that. Okay, we
Speaker 2: had great spots on the Chicago river boat.
Speaker 4: The boat was a vibe that I was not expecting
Speaker 4: that I was not expecting the boat, the boat ride
Speaker 4: in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm you know, that's just Chicago. And we
Speaker 2: talked about this and I'll argue this down. Chicago Skyline
Speaker 2: in Chicago's summertime is a real argument to had when
Speaker 2: it comes to comparing it to New York.
Speaker 4: And I'll leave it at that. Art touching the skyline
Speaker 4: is beautiful for sure. The summertime is it's highly debatable.
Speaker 4: I haven't spent summers in Chicago, though I don't really know,
Speaker 4: but it's gonna be difficult to beat New York summer.
Speaker 5: And be honest with you, that's gonna be difficult.
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie to you. I used to tear New
Speaker 3: York summers down.
Speaker 4: Chicago summer is aesthetically more just it's better.
Speaker 2: It's just hot and dry in New York, like I think,
Speaker 2: and everything is about perspective. So for me, the idea
Speaker 2: of taking the subway in the summertime.
Speaker 5: Used to just but that's disgusting, that's discussing.
Speaker 2: But imagine in a suit going to work and you
Speaker 2: gotta go on the subway. It's fifteen degrees hotter. You
Speaker 2: gotta say excuse me because it's a rat also waiting
Speaker 2: to get on the.
Speaker 4: Train the subway me, Like, you know how you used
Speaker 4: to work on Park Avenue, So I used to I
Speaker 4: used to take the six train.
Speaker 5: Yeah there was, and that was only two stops, maybe.
Speaker 3: Four five six.
Speaker 4: I only took it when it was extremely cold or
Speaker 4: if it was raining, because I would just walk.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, that's one of the worst experiences in life is
Speaker 4: taking the subway during rush out because there's a million
Speaker 4: people on it on the car and nobody is talking
Speaker 4: to anybody.
Speaker 5: Body is just like.
Speaker 3: Looking with that head down in their own world. It's
Speaker 3: a bro and to the one person with skits that
Speaker 3: get on.
Speaker 4: And and their backflips and all kinds of weird shit. Oh,
Speaker 4: one hundred degrees when it's hot.
Speaker 5: It's bad. Subway system in New York is terrible. That
Speaker 5: needs to be revamped.
Speaker 3: They need to do a one hundred billion dollar subway. Literally, really, I.
Speaker 5: Need one hundred million subway innovation from New.
Speaker 2: York because they it's crazy, y'all. Y'all did it with Logordia.
Speaker 2: Subways need to be next. I might take a long
Speaker 2: time and inconvenience a lot of people, but it's crazy
Speaker 2: and that I mean, think about a Chicago we on top,
Speaker 2: maybe the al system.
Speaker 3: You ain't got to go on the ground, baby, we're
Speaker 3: straight here.
Speaker 2: Elevator train for the people that don't know l L train, elevator.
Speaker 3: Trains, the whole train.
Speaker 5: How train is?
Speaker 3: Well you got I ain't took the train in the world.
Speaker 3: I said, the hell of a run.
Speaker 4: When when it comes to basketball players, for sure that
Speaker 4: you have you have had good basketball run.
Speaker 3: Thank you that hip hop for sure? Yeah, yeah, y'all y'all.
Speaker 2: You know, y'all don't had y'all obviously when it comes
Speaker 2: to the to the hip hop. Obviously y'all got the Yankees,
Speaker 2: and you know Nick Ain't never did nothing in life.
Speaker 4: But Giants had a good run in this lifetime. Giants
Speaker 4: have won two Super Bowls for sure. That the Bears,
Speaker 4: I don't think that they won since eighty eighty eight,
Speaker 4: eighty five, eighty five.
Speaker 2: But we went and uh was that twenty sixteen yeah
Speaker 2: from my captain was a twenty two thousand and six,
Speaker 2: two thousand damn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But don't worry. I got a good feeling.
Speaker 4: I got a good feeling. Ah man, Well, Ross, always
Speaker 4: a pleasure to my brother.
Speaker 5: I will see you this weekend already.
Speaker 3: I'll see you Saturday. What the same trip irgo gets
Speaker 3: you to tickets?
Speaker 4: Everybody click the link. Ross Mack will be in the
Speaker 4: building with Shanta. Scott will be in the building in
Speaker 4: nineteen keys of being the building, Ian Dunlop being the
Speaker 4: building myself in Troit.
Speaker 3: We got some good things that we got planned for
Speaker 3: the Midwest. So thank you guys. Rossmiller at you bro.
Speaker 3: My boy love.
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