Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. I'm Gammy and this is positively Gam.
Speaker 1: Today is a really special episode because I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: chatting it up with my executive producer, Salon Jethro. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about everything from how we started working together,
Speaker 1: a look back at our favorite positively gam episodes, and
Speaker 1: what's to come for next season on positively Gam. There's
Speaker 1: so much to chat about it. She's so much fun,
Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Sitting next to me is
Speaker 1: my ride or died through this positively gam journey. My
Speaker 1: executive producer, well one and only Falonethrow. She is an
Speaker 1: unscripted television and podcast producer with over fifteen years of
Speaker 1: experience in the entertainment industry. In addition to producing my podcast,
Speaker 1: she has also helped produce America's Next Model Project, Runway,
Speaker 1: and The Bachelor, to name a few. Hey, Fallon Hug,
Speaker 1: I was in Lincoln. This episode is gonna be great.
Speaker 1: It's like, hopefully we could get through. We'd just be
Speaker 1: laughing then carrying no one the whole time. I'm telling you, guys,
Speaker 1: it's so much fun in this room. And for Calvin
Speaker 1: the engineer, he gets exposed to so much he does
Speaker 1: foolishness again. Actually it was crazy because it was like
Speaker 1: day one when we had to talk with Dr Jackie
Speaker 1: about like menopause. That was our first wasn't our first one.
Speaker 1: It wasn't our first one. That was the first. It
Speaker 1: felt like our close to our first one. It's like
Speaker 1: when we talk about that and we talk about like
Speaker 1: sex and women's issues, I'm always feeling bad for Calvin.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's learning, he does have him all so
Speaker 1: it will be fine. So for the listeners, Fallon is
Speaker 1: the producer, so she's always in the room. She's sitting
Speaker 1: on the side, and she's the one who like giving
Speaker 1: me cues or telling me if we need to do
Speaker 1: pickups or you need to say that again, or looking
Speaker 1: at me crazy. If I'm talking and not making sense,
Speaker 1: stop it. Usually tell again. I'm like, okay, it's good,
Speaker 1: all right, WP it up. So how does it feel
Speaker 1: to be interviewed? Honestly, it's definitely different. It's not my norm.
Speaker 1: I do prefer to be behind the camera. That's where
Speaker 1: well in interviews. I heard you on another podcast, so
Speaker 1: I know you. I was on the podcast Tencil Town.
Speaker 1: I got used to be on there and talk about
Speaker 1: my career, which I did enjoy that. It's honestly a
Speaker 1: beautiful experience to like talk about your career and to
Speaker 1: highlight that because you know, as we all know, you
Speaker 1: can never have enough black people in the industry. So
Speaker 1: I'm behind the scenes. I don't think. I think people
Speaker 1: play down how important that is. But for me, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's where a lot of the power is. Oh,
Speaker 1: I agree, behind the scenes. I agree because I don't
Speaker 1: think enough people realize the what a producer actually does.
Speaker 1: And in my space, creatively, I mean, we're the ones
Speaker 1: almost like the puppeteers, pulling strings and pitching ideas and
Speaker 1: coming up with segments and saying this is hot right now,
Speaker 1: this will be hot in the future, setting the trends
Speaker 1: and said trust me now, I'm just always trying to
Speaker 1: push something on me that I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about. I do. I do. I'm good for that,
Speaker 1: guilty as charged. I am good for producing a topic
Speaker 1: on game that she don't know if I'm I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm game for that one. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm down for that one. I'm not in the
Speaker 1: moon fallon right, But it's really. I think that the
Speaker 1: two of us together is just really a great team.
Speaker 1: And I know when podcasting was not really something that
Speaker 1: I was really all that interested in, And it was
Speaker 1: my manager who suggested that I that I tried podcasting
Speaker 1: because I did want to do something else. I wanted
Speaker 1: to do something else besides Red Table, but podcasting just
Speaker 1: wasn't in my vision. Once I agreed, it was like
Speaker 1: a must for me that I have a black producer.
Speaker 1: I really felt that was really important for me. I
Speaker 1: needed to someone. I needed to be with, someone that
Speaker 1: I felt related to me, that understood my journey. And
Speaker 1: we had a really good connection because I remember during
Speaker 1: the interview, we related, we watched the same shows, we
Speaker 1: had similar experiences on certain topics about the black community
Speaker 1: and the issues that we're going on because two years
Speaker 1: ago was all this like silver and risk and we
Speaker 1: just could talk about it and it was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a click. From day one, I've been rolling
Speaker 1: ever since. It has just been such a fun ride. Yes,
Speaker 1: I definitely will agree. It has honestly been a great ride.
Speaker 1: I love our team. It's it's the trio and I
Speaker 1: mean we have yeah, we have, I mean we have
Speaker 1: rocked together. Gosh, we can't forget Irene though, and Irene. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's our group right here who produces positively gam
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some some of the episodes though, talk
Speaker 1: about were some of our favorite episodes. I know, for me,
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite episodes, I have so many,
Speaker 1: that's okay, But one of my favorite episodes was the
Speaker 1: one on black hair. I'm still in the process of,
Speaker 1: like my little fro. I'm like, I need to nurture you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to, like I say mantras in the morning,
Speaker 1: I like put the oil in my hair. I'm like
Speaker 1: really trying to like regaining that like self love and
Speaker 1: not because I never had that. That one that was
Speaker 1: something that really resonated with me and I felt would
Speaker 1: really resonate with the listeners because for black women, our
Speaker 1: hair is just just historically has just been so important.
Speaker 1: And I thought that we did a really good episode
Speaker 1: because I think we talked a little bit about it
Speaker 1: on Red Table Talk, but I felt the conversation just
Speaker 1: didn't go deep enough, and we did a two parters
Speaker 1: and I just really thought that was a great episode.
Speaker 1: But for I feel like anything anything to do with
Speaker 1: what's happening in the black community tends to be things
Speaker 1: that I really love. Yes, because I feel like positively
Speaker 1: gam is kind of an extension of Red Table Talk,
Speaker 1: but the topics that I choose are typically topics that
Speaker 1: Red Table Talk doesn't want to tackle. Red Table Talk
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about politics. And when we did
Speaker 1: the episode on Black History Saved My Life with John
Speaker 1: One was so resonating. It's so good to hear Earnest's
Speaker 1: stories on racist that was such a good episode. Talking
Speaker 1: to Valerie, Jared and then Professor Molina abduled, Yes, black lives,
Speaker 1: black lives matter. I mean yes, we go from like
Speaker 1: social justice issues to then our funny issues. We're having
Speaker 1: Lonnie Love. I'm talking about her. Come on, La La
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite She's so freaking fun. She
Speaker 1: is telling you how to learn and use Instagram and
Speaker 1: all the social media hacks. I would definitely say for
Speaker 1: the listeners go back and check out these episodes because
Speaker 1: focus on the show is to push people who are
Speaker 1: like over the age of fifty, but there is life
Speaker 1: after the age of fifty and you can still do
Speaker 1: so much. So learning about these particular topics I think
Speaker 1: has definitely been great. And I think the other thing
Speaker 1: about the ones that focus on what's going on in
Speaker 1: the black community. I mean, like my conversations with to
Speaker 1: make a Mallory and I really love angel Abra, So
Speaker 1: what's so fascinating to me is we will make so
Speaker 1: many things trend and talk about so many things, and
Speaker 1: especially this question like who's gonna do a Black agenda
Speaker 1: and we don't have one, but we do have one,
Speaker 1: and we just don't lift it up. Historically, I've not
Speaker 1: been someone who has been very politically connected, like I
Speaker 1: always vote, but I typically don't really focus on politics.
Speaker 1: So those kinds of conversations are actually an opportunity for
Speaker 1: me to really learn because I'm telling you these young
Speaker 1: women out here or anybody who has has devoted their
Speaker 1: lives to social justice and those like that's that's hard work.
Speaker 1: It's hard work, and it is emotionally frustrating and draining,
Speaker 1: and it's just a lot. And to make that your
Speaker 1: life's work, it has really been an eye opener and
Speaker 1: such a learning experience from me. Oh no, I agree,
Speaker 1: because I remember after we shot Season one, you were like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this was eigg zausting because a lot of our topics
Speaker 1: had to do what was happening in the black community
Speaker 1: and all the black stuffs, and we were just it
Speaker 1: was a bit when we started it was it was
Speaker 1: so we were in the think of it. We were
Speaker 1: in to think of it, and it was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: we do have other dimensions to us as black people
Speaker 1: that we didn't want to talk about and not just
Speaker 1: be so sad and what was going on in the world.
Speaker 1: You couldn't not talk about it, but right, but now
Speaker 1: we were definitely going to talk about it. But I
Speaker 1: think another episode that really helped us out and that
Speaker 1: I saw the listeners really resonate with is our episode
Speaker 1: with Dr Alfie on self doubt. Is a lot of
Speaker 1: people are struggling with, like anxiety and depression. Also think
Speaker 1: society gives us these messages. Think about women of your
Speaker 1: generation and what women were told they could and could
Speaker 1: not do. Just think about that, right, I think about
Speaker 1: women of my generation, we could do a little bit
Speaker 1: more because of the sacrifices that you all made. And
Speaker 1: then I think about Willows and my daughter's generation, right,
Speaker 1: they do even more. So I think it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of both internal passing down but also external messaging
Speaker 1: as well. I think we're like hit the nail on
Speaker 1: the head with that episode, because a lot of people
Speaker 1: were like, wow, I go through that, and I think
Speaker 1: it's surprising for people to realize and understand that I
Speaker 1: have been dealing with so now since I was a
Speaker 1: young child, and it just never seems to go away.
Speaker 1: And I know sometimes when I'm out in public and
Speaker 1: when I'm out it doesn't seem like that. But that
Speaker 1: is the truth of the matter. But he was talking
Speaker 1: to Jada and Lauren London. Yeah, they have alter egos,
Speaker 1: they do. What are their names? You know, if you are,
Speaker 1: you supposed to say you're Yeah, you're supposed to say
Speaker 1: Jade is alter ego is cor and so that's when
Speaker 1: her that's actually her middle name. Okay, that's okay, I'm
Speaker 1: here for it. Okay, I forgot what Lawrence was do
Speaker 1: you don't know? But that's what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: I think I need an alter ego. I think you
Speaker 1: need an alter ego. So that's what I'm gonna suggest.
Speaker 1: I want the listeners to help me come up with
Speaker 1: an alter ego name. Okay, I would like that. I'd
Speaker 1: like having Pierce exactly. I'd like when I go out
Speaker 1: I usually like to have Roxy. That's like my party
Speaker 1: here because I'm not usually I'm one of the homebody
Speaker 1: tie like Roxy coming out. Then we're all have a
Speaker 1: good time. We're gonna be out two in the morning,
Speaker 1: three in the morning, we're gonna like parties, We're gonna
Speaker 1: be on the dance floor. Because it's totally like the
Speaker 1: opposite of me. But yeah, I think everybody should have.
Speaker 1: So I think I need to come up with an
Speaker 1: alter ego and maybe used because you had actually talked
Speaker 1: about that when I have events, was something to go
Speaker 1: to if yes, I was saying that like through your
Speaker 1: podcast and when you do acting is you have to
Speaker 1: develop a character. So then that way, when you like
Speaker 1: go home and you just maybe make Gam the character
Speaker 1: like you're sort of alter ego and you're like personality.
Speaker 1: And then after you go home and you're like talking
Speaker 1: with Brian and you're just sitting on the couch your Adrian.
Speaker 1: So then because it's always fun to play a character
Speaker 1: because but I think it needs to because I'm my
Speaker 1: designs gam. It can't be okay, it can't be Gam,
Speaker 1: but we can come up with something. Come up with something, yes,
Speaker 1: because I think an alter ego is honestly really good,
Speaker 1: good to have onto some of our other favorite things.
Speaker 1: I mean, we honest really I love that we share
Speaker 1: is TV shows. Where are you currently watching? Right now?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch We Run This City, which is
Speaker 1: an HBO special that is dealing with the Baltimore City
Speaker 1: Police Department. So it's it's a true account of the
Speaker 1: corruption in the Baltimore City Police Department. So I just
Speaker 1: I keep falling asleep. So I'm watching it, and it's
Speaker 1: not because the shows, doll. I'm watching it at night
Speaker 1: and I'm exhausted because Duchess gets me up at six
Speaker 1: am every morning. She's like an alarm clock. She's driving
Speaker 1: me insane. So but that is one that I'm I
Speaker 1: am gonna focus on now that the R T T
Speaker 1: is almost over. Our season is almost up and I
Speaker 1: won't have to be working. So definitely is a good one.
Speaker 1: But there's so many. The Shot is getting ready to
Speaker 1: come back, Oh man, I can't wait. The Shot is
Speaker 1: getting ready. Actually, by the time this air is this
Speaker 1: Shot probably will be best Shot will be back on
Speaker 1: air by then, which is great. And if you guys
Speaker 1: haven't checked out on showtime, it's lean a waste. So
Speaker 1: it's amazing show. I mean, I guess we have a
Speaker 1: love for like crime, crime show. We love Snowfall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who did everybody watch Style? All five seasons of Snowfall?
Speaker 1: And are we gonna get a season six? We have
Speaker 1: to because it's not over. We have to know what
Speaker 1: happens with Franklin sat I always feels like I could
Speaker 1: be good at organized crime because I've ever have to
Speaker 1: be very organized, on top of your game. But I
Speaker 1: think people would be surprised too that I was a huge,
Speaker 1: a huge fan of all of the Viking shows. I
Speaker 1: know people would think they would be like, what, yeah,
Speaker 1: watched the Bikings. Yes, I watched all of them. I
Speaker 1: watched the Vikings, I watched Last Kingdom, and I watched
Speaker 1: Vikings about How Yeah, okay, I haven't gotten into that series.
Speaker 1: So good. I mean it is brutal because that's what
Speaker 1: bikers do. I mean, yeah, really, I really really enjoyed
Speaker 1: all of those seasons. And then a really fun show
Speaker 1: to watch was the marvelous Mrs Maisel Mark so good
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. I loved the comedy. I love that
Speaker 1: error some of my other favorites. You didn't have it
Speaker 1: on your list, but Atlanta with I never got into Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You never got into Atlanta. I didn't, but I'm down
Speaker 1: to check it out. I think Atlanta is one of
Speaker 1: the most well written shows. I think it helps elevate
Speaker 1: the culture and it is great. And then I would
Speaker 1: also to say a Black Lady Scotch show probably yes,
Speaker 1: I like and I love a good comedy on a
Speaker 1: Friday night. Um here for her. I love Robin Thity
Speaker 1: of sky townsend all of them. And actually Quenta and
Speaker 1: Abbott Elementary which we bought it over, Yes about good.
Speaker 1: That was another faith. And if I had to play
Speaker 1: the Shirley Ralph shows her character, I was like, Shirley Ralph, Yes,
Speaker 1: she killed it. She she killed it. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: this woman is hilarious. And I remember her back from
Speaker 1: the Sister at Days and probably she probably said about
Speaker 1: two words in it, but the look that she gave
Speaker 1: her daughter on stage, you knew it was up because
Speaker 1: I was a look of every black mother and you're
Speaker 1: just lying and every black mother knows how to do it.
Speaker 1: Everybody mother who knows how to get that look, and
Speaker 1: you're just like, okay, I'm getting he says to me
Speaker 1: all the time because he used to get beats all
Speaker 1: the time. She was bad, beauties. But I don't think
Speaker 1: I was bad. I don't know. Ever, maybe I was bad.
Speaker 1: But we never got spankings. We never, we never did.
Speaker 1: He was like, how was it was the four of you?
Speaker 1: I said, listen, my mother knew how to give the look,
Speaker 1: the look. It's look and we like, He said, but
Speaker 1: somebody had to. I said, I'm telling you. We never
Speaker 1: got spank We got the look, and you know you knew,
Speaker 1: And I said, and it was the same with with
Speaker 1: our kids. We knew how to give the look to
Speaker 1: get folks right, don't you do? It takes one more
Speaker 1: move that that acting up in public? Absolutely not. Never happened.
Speaker 1: Never happened. That definitely. Yeah. So those were the stuff
Speaker 1: that we would name. It was mostly on streaming services,
Speaker 1: but there were some network TV shows that I enjoyed
Speaker 1: and I really love. Okay, this is US. I liked
Speaker 1: a million little things, million little all these are definitely
Speaker 1: good shows. I mean, This is Us it's in its
Speaker 1: final season. When my mom came into town, show me
Speaker 1: mid watching because I had kind of fallen out of
Speaker 1: it because I'm just not a huge Mandy Moore fan.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Yeah, I mean this is us.
Speaker 1: Some want so many more. It's such a great show.
Speaker 1: What The Walking Day? Oh yeah, I mean I haven't
Speaker 1: watched so long in the last legs too, but there's
Speaker 1: been so many spinoffs, so I'm sure there's going to
Speaker 1: be more spinoffs for The Walking Day. That show it
Speaker 1: cannot go away. So what about movies, because we're just
Speaker 1: a huge We're huge entertainment buffs. I mean, like a favorite.
Speaker 1: There isn't but we're I have a top three loving basketball. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Moonlight and Good Wild Hunting are like my talk three.
Speaker 1: I'm a Houston all Lathan fan. I love loving basketball.
Speaker 1: I honestly thought it was gonna be my life growing
Speaker 1: up because my neighbor but also to like I lived
Speaker 1: across the street for my neighbors, shout out to because
Speaker 1: he was my first kid. I don't know why I'm
Speaker 1: like exposing all, but I thought like I wanted like
Speaker 1: that life style and was like that was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite movies. I can just honestly put that movie
Speaker 1: on at any point in time, and in that section
Speaker 1: of the Love and Basketball, yeah, and I go that
Speaker 1: way with love Jones and I do Love Jones too,
Speaker 1: but like I can mouth the words to the entire film.
Speaker 1: Everybody's roll, Like everybody's rolling at any point in time.
Speaker 1: It's okay to watch Love Love Jones and Rodney's Dad.
Speaker 1: It's like not from the eighties, my throat, please, I
Speaker 1: cannot watch it. I don't do it, don't do it, don't.
Speaker 1: But I can put that on it any time. And
Speaker 1: any of Jada's movies of course, of course. I mean
Speaker 1: I can watch at any time. Set it Off, my
Speaker 1: ultimate fave. I can always watch set it Off. I
Speaker 1: don't think I like some of the ones that aren't
Speaker 1: only that popular, like woof oh, and what's the one,
Speaker 1: what's the one that she did Kingdom Come? I think
Speaker 1: I thought she was hilarious and coming. Rodney was like
Speaker 1: not so much. He was like, it didn't do it
Speaker 1: for me. I mean, if I have to go back
Speaker 1: to classics, BAPS is one of my like ultimate face.
Speaker 1: You know what. I never saw that from beginning to
Speaker 1: ever saw that, But you know what I've been watching
Speaker 1: lately too that I really I'm starting to watch that
Speaker 1: over and over again. Two can play that game that
Speaker 1: she was good in that she was good in that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know what they're bringing making a TV show
Speaker 1: now is The Best Man. They're making it a series.
Speaker 1: They're bringing that back, and I need to go back
Speaker 1: and like rewatch like that the Best Man all them.
Speaker 1: And actually somebody just posted I think it was Tay
Speaker 1: Diggs made a post because they're doing probably the last
Speaker 1: Best Man movie. Yeah, and I think it says the
Speaker 1: Best Man final chapter it is, and I'm like, does
Speaker 1: it have to be final chapter? Can it just be
Speaker 1: next chapter? I mean, honestly, I just feel like it
Speaker 1: can go on, and it could go on and on.
Speaker 1: And it was like head every black per and the Man,
Speaker 1: every black actor, and I love it. I love it
Speaker 1: when movies do that and you just see like King's
Speaker 1: something less. It's just those movies are just good feeling movies,
Speaker 1: like they're just fun. And I missed those me to
Speaker 1: miss because it was just a season when a time
Speaker 1: period when they were just coming out right and left
Speaker 1: and then they just kind of went away they did, honestly,
Speaker 1: and we need that back. We need that back, and
Speaker 1: I felt The Girl's Trip was heading us back that way,
Speaker 1: and then now we're back in the dry zone again.
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, I think Netflix has
Speaker 1: a department strong back lead, and I think they need
Speaker 1: to buy up those movies and bring them onto their
Speaker 1: streaming platform because people need to see those type of
Speaker 1: films wine just for the culture and then to so
Speaker 1: generations to come can still be reminded about like the movies,
Speaker 1: because there's so many great actors and actresses who made
Speaker 1: so many great movies. But we can't forget. We can't
Speaker 1: almost feel like when you talk about movies that you
Speaker 1: have to almost talk about genres because it's like genres
Speaker 1: and then there's time periods. Really really an old freak,
Speaker 1: like I love old movies, like's there, Okay, okay, they're
Speaker 1: ginger rogers. I love that. I know you had someone
Speaker 1: of your list that I was honestly I go. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I need to see But even
Speaker 1: when some of the black actors like Sydney Potier a
Speaker 1: Patch of Blue Yes come through. I mean, those are
Speaker 1: all classes, but I think I've only seen those only
Speaker 1: because I'm a film major, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: you've played enough for people see. And that's the problem,
Speaker 1: because I was like, these are classics that, like everybody
Speaker 1: should be like, oh yeah, I saw that. Just like
Speaker 1: even when Sydney Portier passed, I thought that there was
Speaker 1: gonna be like a marathon of his movies on and
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like the networks did that at all.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it happening. Yeah, he really was, but
Speaker 1: so talented. I don't know. There's so many good films
Speaker 1: out there that it's hard. It is kind of hard
Speaker 1: to name them all because there's just so many, like
Speaker 1: good actress and actresses. Because I was like, dang, I
Speaker 1: could go down like Denzel Washington exactly, go down Samuel
Speaker 1: Jackson's list. I could go down so many people's like
Speaker 1: exactly list of films that I'm just like, they're doing it,
Speaker 1: like the career is like crazy, even halle Berry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I actually loved Tom Hanks. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah there's a movie that Tom Hanks is done that
Speaker 1: hasn't been good. Oh yes, I mean I'm sure there is,
Speaker 1: but he's just done. So his work is just really
Speaker 1: really phenomenal. For Stump, I mean, yass, yeah, Philadelphia, Oh yes,
Speaker 1: my gosh, he and Denzel come on, you're right, I
Speaker 1: mean just I mean, we can talk about movies all day.
Speaker 1: But let's get onto our another favorite thing, which is
Speaker 1: food side. We love to eat. We love to eat
Speaker 1: considerate an activity. And if I'm going out or hanging out,
Speaker 1: we better have that me have some food in that plan.
Speaker 1: There better be some food in that plan. I agree.
Speaker 1: I like going to Schmorgersburg on Sundays here in l
Speaker 1: A and checking down out where they have food trucks.
Speaker 1: I like the l A Vegan Festival that's in North
Speaker 1: Hollywood that happens. Yeah, I love food. I mean I
Speaker 1: have to check out some of those things. So because
Speaker 1: I still haven't gotten used to or don't know about
Speaker 1: the good food spots here in the l A. I
Speaker 1: I just moved out here not too long ago, so
Speaker 1: I haven't really checked out a lot of places. Um.
Speaker 1: But and back in Baltimore, one of my favorite restaurants
Speaker 1: was Ida Bees, which was a soul food restaurant. I
Speaker 1: definitely are on the side of prescytarian. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a fake vegan because I can never give up. I
Speaker 1: can never give up my seafood exactly because I tried
Speaker 1: being vegetarian, not vegan, because I did try vegan, but
Speaker 1: that was just way too hard. So then I went
Speaker 1: to vegetarian, but then I moved back to Maryland and
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way in the world I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna eat crabs. It's not gonna happen to stop.
Speaker 1: It stops, so true Pesketian, It's yeah, I'll go. I'll
Speaker 1: go with Pesketarian. I love my beyond me, my beyond sausages,
Speaker 1: And I mean Crossroads is a great vegan restaurant too.
Speaker 1: Here in Los Angeles State, everything's vegan at the restaurant.
Speaker 1: They have a good vegan macaroni and cheese. So I
Speaker 1: suggests checking out a Crossroads. We talked about in the
Speaker 1: beginning of what happened in our favorite episodes of season
Speaker 1: one and two. But what do you expect for season three?
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't really know because a lot
Speaker 1: of like we right before we you know, we take
Speaker 1: a hiatus and right before we come back, then we
Speaker 1: you and I kind of get together and talk about
Speaker 1: what has gone on and what we think are the
Speaker 1: focus of the season should be. So I think it's
Speaker 1: probably going to depend on what is happening in the world.
Speaker 1: One thing that I will say that really disappointed about
Speaker 1: and would love to talk to someone about probably next season,
Speaker 1: and that is what happened to police reform. Like you
Speaker 1: you we got, we voted these folks into office, and
Speaker 1: now everything just seems to be dead in the water.
Speaker 1: And so the political scene is still something that is
Speaker 1: really has turned out to be extremely disappointing. Yet I
Speaker 1: still know how important it is to vote, and I agree,
Speaker 1: it's just so challenging and so freaking frustrating Roe versus Wade,
Speaker 1: Although by the time we come back, who knows, if
Speaker 1: you know what certain circumstances will be with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they do say that if they're trying to overturn vert
Speaker 1: his way, there's so many other laws that they're going
Speaker 1: to try to start overturning, like gay rights and everything else.
Speaker 1: So I think we'll still have more to time about,
Speaker 1: and I think we have. We I just feel like
Speaker 1: the nation is we're going backwards, not forwards, and I
Speaker 1: just don't know how the hell that happened. And I
Speaker 1: have to say, like, out of the clear blue sky,
Speaker 1: who the hell knew that Dr Oz was a Trumpster?
Speaker 1: That was very disturbing for me. Yeah, that was very disturbing.
Speaker 1: So it changes my whole view with Dr I sorry, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: not sorry. I yeah, I agree, I know. Also to
Speaker 1: you didn't mention we want to bring video, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love to bring video, and to our too
Speaker 1: positively gain we definitely want to try to bring video
Speaker 1: into season three where we stream our episodes for the
Speaker 1: listeners and bring them in. I think that would be good.
Speaker 1: That would be something different that we haven't had because
Speaker 1: we only just show a little snippets. So I think
Speaker 1: it's always great because I think people love seeing just
Speaker 1: sometimes your facial expressions even when you're not saying anything,
Speaker 1: which is always the best because the best guys you
Speaker 1: don't see it. And some of her guys have there
Speaker 1: out about it is. Gam loves to take notes during
Speaker 1: the episodes, which is one of my favorite things to watch.
Speaker 1: I think when Irene and I are always off camera,
Speaker 1: always testing, like why is Gam taking notes? She can
Speaker 1: like she has this audio, it's her audio. She can
Speaker 1: listen back to it, but she's taking notessode you need
Speaker 1: the advice right now, which is always find it very good.
Speaker 1: But I do I take notes sometimes, I mean, but
Speaker 1: we have learned a lot though from some of our guests,
Speaker 1: and I do have to oh, I do have to
Speaker 1: shout out and forgot about this, but Bola when she
Speaker 1: taught us about finding because we did learn a lot
Speaker 1: about how we can really make our money work for
Speaker 1: us a long ways and getting s corpse and opening
Speaker 1: up lll c s. And I think that's something that
Speaker 1: like the listeners definitely shouldn't go check out because we
Speaker 1: drop a lot of information in here to one want
Speaker 1: to just help the community better. I mean, yeah, go
Speaker 1: back and check that episode out because that was definitely
Speaker 1: a very It was definitely an informative episode that we had.
Speaker 1: So who would be some of your dream guests that
Speaker 1: you would want to have on the show for me
Speaker 1: to talk to? Okay, so dream guests because I'm always
Speaker 1: itching to get like the best guests. I know I
Speaker 1: have some folks that I would be interested in talking to,
Speaker 1: like Lewis, Jennifer Lewis, Who are you interested in Len Away?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would love to talk to Lena clean Away.
Speaker 1: I would love to kind of want to talk to
Speaker 1: Misha Green. We try to reach out Misha, she she
Speaker 1: didn't have time to come on guys, Misha Green. Honestly,
Speaker 1: if anybody has a connection to Meta Green, we would
Speaker 1: love yeah, Halla because we would love for her to
Speaker 1: be on Positively Gain. We were huge fans of love
Speaker 1: Craft Country and sorry that is not coming back. But Misha,
Speaker 1: we know you probably are about to drop something else
Speaker 1: and we want to talk to you. Robin Feede I
Speaker 1: would love to and her Kelly Roland for sure. I
Speaker 1: still kind of want to talk to Brian Stevenson. He
Speaker 1: would be our specialists on on social justice. I would
Speaker 1: talk to him. I'm interested in talking to Shaun King too. Yes, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think people have a lot of opinions about Shaun King,
Speaker 1: so it would be great to get him on the
Speaker 1: podcast and hear his take. Um. I think he would
Speaker 1: be a great guest. Did we already say Debbie Allen? No,
Speaker 1: we did say Debbie Allen. Oh yeah, Debbie Allen. I
Speaker 1: would love to talk to her in her new center
Speaker 1: that she has out here. I think that, Yeah, she'd
Speaker 1: be in a calling and guest. She has always been
Speaker 1: like one of my favorites like she she was so
Speaker 1: instrumental in Jada's career, so we are forever forever in
Speaker 1: her debt. So yeah, I love Debbie and I just
Speaker 1: love her dance and her dance company. When she has
Speaker 1: done for the community for all of these years. So yeah,
Speaker 1: she would be a great guest to have. And as
Speaker 1: I mentioned in the top of the show, Wendy Raquel,
Speaker 1: Robinson and I would be interested in talking. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we were talking about that off camera, but when you
Speaker 1: requell Robinson actually would be a great guest for us
Speaker 1: who don't know her. She's the actress on the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, we would love to talk about her. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's a lot of who I want
Speaker 1: to say, people, what do you call Oh, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think just some more of unspotlighted Okay, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of unspotlighted folks that that
Speaker 1: we would want to have a chat with. But of course,
Speaker 1: once again, that's kind of based on what's happening in
Speaker 1: the world that we kind of find those exactly stories
Speaker 1: that we want to highlight exactly. I mean, and we
Speaker 1: always I know, I I can't get enough of having
Speaker 1: Rodney on. I would love for him to come back
Speaker 1: and sing and serenade us here because she has such
Speaker 1: a great scene voice. That's always I think I'm not
Speaker 1: get him to just get himself together and just record
Speaker 1: a record really, because we have a recording studio. We're
Speaker 1: in it, and and just for himself, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he's getting ready to n sixt six. Then it's
Speaker 1: just for his own personal Yeah, for his own himself,
Speaker 1: like a birthday. He has to record it though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but it's okay cool hire Calvin to be
Speaker 1: his audio engineer and then we would have to figure
Speaker 1: out what he's gonna sing and all I think he
Speaker 1: could did get him singing lessons, did you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that. I think it's a great idea. With the
Speaker 1: the coach that Um, Jaden and the kids have they
Speaker 1: all used, then he should feature Willow and Jaden on
Speaker 1: as a background background singior. I would definitely be down.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Tim was really surprised. He was like, wow,
Speaker 1: Rodney can really say I said, I told you, I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised. Guys, Ronnie has he has rated seeing ways
Speaker 1: and it's like an untrained talent because he just just
Speaker 1: sings naturally. I of it before we wrap up, gam
Speaker 1: you always asked before before we change, I would we
Speaker 1: would love to hear from the listeners what topics Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that they would want us to cover for next season
Speaker 1: and what they're looking forward to for next season. So
Speaker 1: you guys hit us up and let us know what
Speaker 1: you're interested in. Yeah, hit came up on her d
Speaker 1: M in Instagram and let us know what you want
Speaker 1: to see on Positively game for season three. We're down
Speaker 1: to talk about it and then you guys always having
Speaker 1: interest in gams workout routine and her team. That will
Speaker 1: be a journey because you're supposed to be getting a
Speaker 1: hip replacement. Yes, that that will That will be a
Speaker 1: discussion and I think people want to know that because
Speaker 1: you can still work out, but with having a hip
Speaker 1: probably do more physical therapy worth getting a hip replacement.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. That's not gonna happen
Speaker 1: until the end of the year though. I was going
Speaker 1: to do it in the summertime, and I cannot waste
Speaker 1: my summer trying to recover from hip replacement. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do at at the top of yes, and I
Speaker 1: think too well, we'll have now since we are out
Speaker 1: of the pandemic again, will be places and we'll have
Speaker 1: more experiences to talk about and share on the podcast
Speaker 1: because you'll be able to like travel and go more
Speaker 1: places on Rodney, which we didn't really have for the
Speaker 1: last past two seasons. And I think it would be
Speaker 1: great too if we brought some of the guests in
Speaker 1: studio and not did everybody remote. So I think that
Speaker 1: would be like very interesting. Yeah, we can try that.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll see how that goes. Yeah, I'll see how
Speaker 1: that goes. Yeah. We just had the Travel Expert on
Speaker 1: and that that was a really good show, and I
Speaker 1: was really I was actually just thinking about this morning,
Speaker 1: like I really want to get back to traveling, but
Speaker 1: the gas prices have increased so much, and the airfares
Speaker 1: are ridiculous right now, and I almost feel like we
Speaker 1: ought to boycott flying to make these companies drop the
Speaker 1: plight prices again, because it is insane it and it's
Speaker 1: really sad that the pandemic is starting to we're starting
Speaker 1: to get a little control over it. Not that it's over,
Speaker 1: but people are more interested in traveling again. But now
Speaker 1: it's being it's prohibitive because of the pricing for everything.
Speaker 1: That's kind of that's really disappointing. But anyway, Gam, you
Speaker 1: normally asked, we have a segment called Whitney you like
Speaker 1: to know We're Gam asked three rapid fire questions to
Speaker 1: all her guests. But this is the first time on
Speaker 1: Positively Gam where I will be asking Gam her own
Speaker 1: three rapid fire questions for this segment, wouldn't you like
Speaker 1: to know? And so, Gam, what book are you currently reading?
Speaker 1: Oh lord, okay, So I'm actually reading still reading the
Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen Project. I've been reading it for a while, yes,
Speaker 1: because it is a difficult read. It is nonfiction, so
Speaker 1: it's historical facts, so it's not a fun read. It's
Speaker 1: reading for knowledge and the content is just difficult to
Speaker 1: absorb and it's painful. I'm still reading that. I'm more
Speaker 1: than halfway through. Then I just got through listening to
Speaker 1: because I'm a huge audio book fan, and I just
Speaker 1: got through listening to The Man Who Lives Underground, which
Speaker 1: was a new one from Richard Wright from who wrote
Speaker 1: Native Song from his Estate. They were able to publish
Speaker 1: before it was a short story and they were able
Speaker 1: to publish it as the whole script as a novel.
Speaker 1: So I just got through reading that and it was
Speaker 1: it was interesting, it was good. And now I am
Speaker 1: reading to reading what is the one? The other one
Speaker 1: that I'm listening to right now, black Water Rising, black
Speaker 1: Water Rising. So that's how audioble person. But I mean constantly,
Speaker 1: I guess I just reread over and over. Is Nadrov's
Speaker 1: book Setting Boundaries? Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you can
Speaker 1: never That's the one you have to continue to react,
Speaker 1: you like forget or you just learn't doing the work
Speaker 1: of like sending the healthy boundaries. That's one I constantly
Speaker 1: just reread. All right, What is one thing you want
Speaker 1: to get off your chest? I just want to say
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot living this life about false idolization.
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot about that. And we're all made
Speaker 1: in the image of God. None of us is perfect.
Speaker 1: So even when we're living your life under the public's microscope,
Speaker 1: we are all just people and we're all human. That's it.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. What's one thing you
Speaker 1: want to get off your chest? So one thing that
Speaker 1: I do want to get off my chest is the
Speaker 1: streaming platforms need to get it together that when we're
Speaker 1: not paying for all these different services, I wish that
Speaker 1: they went fine together so that way we don't have
Speaker 1: to pay individually for each one. It's getting expensive and
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. So let's let's find
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out a way to be able
Speaker 1: to see everything that you want to see. Like it's
Speaker 1: really it's really gotten out of hand. Um, it's no
Speaker 1: better now than you know, just the services that you
Speaker 1: get from like Verizon or and those things are off
Speaker 1: the chain. You can't get exactly what you want. They
Speaker 1: group the things together, you know, Like it's just ridiculous
Speaker 1: how they do it. So, I mean, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: And last, but alist what's a motto that you left by?
Speaker 1: I said every day, I pray about it every day,
Speaker 1: and I say it at the end of my podcast
Speaker 1: Living with Gratitude, just saying great fuld, that's the model
Speaker 1: that I live by. You do? You always do say
Speaker 1: that and it always resonates. And yesterday I noticed you
Speaker 1: were wearing a grateful net and I go, wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: that really truly is gam gams mono to stay grateful.
Speaker 1: So I love that. What's a model that you live by? Okay,
Speaker 1: I just found this really good motto stop complaining how
Speaker 1: it isn't your time and start preparing for it to be.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yes that's a good one. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good one. I did not come up with that. But
Speaker 1: sky Townsend, she's an actress and comedian on a Black
Speaker 1: Lady Sketch show. I saw she had reposted that on
Speaker 1: her Instagram, and it really resonated with me because I
Speaker 1: think you don't need to complain that it's not your
Speaker 1: time and owe other people's time. It's just start prepping
Speaker 1: for it, for it to be your time. And I
Speaker 1: think it will have more of a positive effect on
Speaker 1: you if you start thinking any point in time could
Speaker 1: be your time, So your ready, right, so be ready?
Speaker 1: You know that. Sally Richardson Whitfield said that also, like
Speaker 1: she better be ready. Sally did say that, And I
Speaker 1: think that people just need to start being ready for
Speaker 1: preparing forever. No, you don't, you really don't. And and
Speaker 1: that's big in this industry is that at any point
Speaker 1: in time, somebody could be like, hey are you ready
Speaker 1: to go? Or hey can you be on set at
Speaker 1: this time? And you just needed to be ready, ready,
Speaker 1: ready to be ready. Yes. So where can people find
Speaker 1: you on social media? Failure? You can find me on
Speaker 1: all platforms at at fallon jethro f A L L
Speaker 1: O N last name j E T h R o E.
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to d Beats
Speaker 1: who created this season theme song beat for Positively gam
Speaker 1: You know, if everybody should go to absolutely work, you
Speaker 1: know on Instagram, because he's definitely out here producing some
Speaker 1: great things. I do want to give a shout out
Speaker 1: to one of my my hometown UH friends, La Grand
Speaker 1: with a k a. The Sinatra of Soul. He's an
Speaker 1: R and B soul and stepping performer and recording artists
Speaker 1: of the highest caliber. And the Grand is preparing for
Speaker 1: the release of his second album on his own label,
Speaker 1: k M three Entertainment and it's called The Grand with
Speaker 1: Sinatra of Soul. It's the collaboration. Yeah, and I just
Speaker 1: wanted to shout him out because he's from the from
Speaker 1: my hometown or Baltimore, so I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: Everybody should go online and check him out. Shout out
Speaker 1: to the Grand. Yes, they definitely definitely should. Okay, thanks
Speaker 1: Baling for hopping on the micro. Our final episode at
Speaker 1: Positively dam season two. Thanks to all the listeners out
Speaker 1: there who have been listening to our episodes and leaving reviews.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to come back and do it again
Speaker 1: for season three. Yes, and that's our show. You can
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Speaker 1: Talk Podcast and I Heart Radio. Executive producers are Adrian Banfield,
Speaker 1: Naris Balin, Jethro and Jada Pinkett Smith. Our audio engineer
Speaker 1: is Calvin Bailiff, and our associate producer is Irene Bischoff Burger.
Speaker 1: Our theme song is produced by d Beats.