WEBVTT - Beyond The Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>Calling all my sweetish to the forefront. I'm your host, Christophine.

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<v Speaker 2>Hazel and this is the Keeping Positive Swedish show. The

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<v Speaker 2>world is quick to celebrate what we do, but eventually

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<v Speaker 2>all of us have to answer a much bigger question,

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<v Speaker 2>who are we when the titles are stripped away. Today

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about identity, reinvention and the woman behind the jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>My girl Tay Young.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's guest is a champion in every sense of the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Ty Young is a professional basketball champion, analyst, coach, entrepreneur,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the most recognizable voices in women's basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>But today we're going beyond the accolades to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the woman behind.

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<v Speaker 1>The career kids selling. Please give a very one welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to my friend Ty Young.

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<v Speaker 3>Ty.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing. I'm doing great. We got you here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here finally, finally, finally, You're having a good summer

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<v Speaker 2>so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a great summer. Good. What is like the

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<v Speaker 1>highlight of your summer so far?

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<v Speaker 4>Covering the WNBA games, okay, and just being able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Spend time with my friends. Yeah, I love that. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you recently when Atlanta Dream played Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good game and we sat in a

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<v Speaker 1>hot parking lot and talked for like an hour. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just sitting there till the players was leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, that's a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. You said it used to be the last

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<v Speaker 1>one coming out one, so I know. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been here a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, it's always good to catch up with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy to have you on so we can learn more

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<v Speaker 2>about you. But before we get into it, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play a little game called the Scouting Report. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out Shelley for creating these fun games for us.

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<v Speaker 2>You have spent your career scouting opponents. Today we're scouting you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna throw out a few qualities and you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me if they're already a part of your game

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<v Speaker 2>or if there's something you're still working on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right. The first one is confidence part of

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<v Speaker 1>my game, all right? Knew that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Vulnerability part of my game? Okay, good, Patience.

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<v Speaker 1>Still working on it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've gotten better, but I'm still me to love part

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<v Speaker 4>of my game.

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<v Speaker 3>I know she's a lover girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Discipline part of my game probably like instilling you since

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<v Speaker 2>a young girl.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, and balance, still working on it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard, right it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you think of balance, you think about like

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<v Speaker 4>work and your family and your friends and your time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the biggest component that I'm still working on

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<v Speaker 4>this is my time.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I try to carve it because my schedule

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<v Speaker 2>is so busy, which I'm sure yours is too. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times it's hard to carve out that time

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<v Speaker 2>for ourselves. But when we do, we realize how much

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<v Speaker 2>we needed it. I know, for me, like, I get

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<v Speaker 2>like a little moment and I'm like, wow, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize how much I needed this just to be quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>be by myself, kind of restored.

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell when I can overstimulate it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, I gotta go home. I got to decompress.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't nobody call me because I'm overstimulated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the same way. And my team knows. They'd be like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she's had enough. While you laughing West, I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>aby Feller, he'd like you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, he'd be knowing it. I'll be like he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I got it. He's like my buffer

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<v Speaker 1>between a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I want to get into you the tie before basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>like the star that we know, the legend that we

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<v Speaker 2>know who was tied before all the cameras.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a silly kid that was spoiled.

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<v Speaker 4>Always been big with my family and the baby of

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<v Speaker 4>the family. So it was just about doing things and

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<v Speaker 4>getting my way, torturing my siblings. I have a older

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<v Speaker 4>brother and sister, and I have an older stepsister.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, amazing, So you're the baby. What was that like?

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<v Speaker 4>So there were times where my siblings would want to

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<v Speaker 4>go play and not really feel like they have to

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<v Speaker 4>be me, so they didn't want me to come, and

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<v Speaker 4>my mother would be like, take y'all sister with you.

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<v Speaker 4>So I felt like I've always you know, wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>be around them and do the things that they did.

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<v Speaker 4>But there were times where they didn't want to feel

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<v Speaker 4>like they were babysitting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my brother were raced together and we're eight

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<v Speaker 2>years apart, so I actually felt like he was my

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<v Speaker 2>child a lot of times. Just when he got older

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<v Speaker 2>and I was driving, I would take him to school,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would make sure he got ready, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was responsible, making sure he had breakfast, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking his vitamins, which is so funny. We were leave

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<v Speaker 2>moving out of the house and they were cleaning out

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<v Speaker 2>the garage and all the vitamins were like.

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<v Speaker 3>All the he wasn't taking his throwing him out of

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<v Speaker 3>the window.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he was not taking those vitamins, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't either because I didn't like so I

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<v Speaker 2>hate it swallowing. I just got to a point where

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<v Speaker 2>I can actually like swallow. Like people like pick that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to always take serrup because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't take okay, And I was like, that was me too.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like they were all in the garage. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all didn't wait till you got down this, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I at least yeah, try to hide it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, nah, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>When did basketball become something that you were interested in?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was the first spark?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? So we had a goal in our backyard when

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<v Speaker 4>we were younger and our parents were together and my

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<v Speaker 4>brother and my sister would play, but I was more

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<v Speaker 4>so always trying to follow behind my brother, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it started with him and with him beating me all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. So that's what started my competitive nature because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like I'm not about to let you keep beating me,

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<v Speaker 4>And so I just started to love the game from

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<v Speaker 4>my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then from there, like when did you know like

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<v Speaker 2>this is something? Or when did your parents or was

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<v Speaker 2>it a coach that said, hey, she got something?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe middle school.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it and I played at the girls ink prior,

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<v Speaker 4>but middle school I was bitch right, Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>play until maybe like our last game of the season,

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<v Speaker 4>and I scored like twenty some points and my coach

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, she's really improved her game, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was. I was I had a smart bale,

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, I didn't approve my game.

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<v Speaker 3>He never gave me a chance to play.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it was in that moment that I knew

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<v Speaker 4>that I was a lot better than the other kids

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<v Speaker 4>he had planned before me. Yeah, and I just continue

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<v Speaker 4>to take it more serious. But I always loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just like it was always a little roadblock

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<v Speaker 4>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And when you had that opportunity, he was like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to show yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that little edge that ship where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm about to prove.

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<v Speaker 4>And so then high school, I first started off on

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<v Speaker 4>JV for one day and.

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<v Speaker 1>They realized I was so much better than girls. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So I moved up to varsity, so I started to

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<v Speaker 4>see it, you know, come a lot faster than it

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<v Speaker 4>started off. And then I played AAU and my AAU

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<v Speaker 4>coach was talking to me about my versatility, being able

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<v Speaker 4>to play multiple positions because I was stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>On beyond a guard.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's when I started to see me be

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<v Speaker 4>versatile and be a lot better than some.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the girls I was playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And a lot of people don't understand how much

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<v Speaker 2>goes into being an AAU player. You're in school and

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<v Speaker 2>then like you're traveling so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that take a toll on you at a young age?

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<v Speaker 2>Was there every moment where you were like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>or you just love the game so much you were

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<v Speaker 2>excited about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the game so much, but I also was

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<v Speaker 4>a busybody, so moving and traveling didn't really bother me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I played AAU and Raleigh, which is two hours

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<v Speaker 4>away from where I live, so I had to travel

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<v Speaker 4>extra because we didn't have like a really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Team in my city.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So is that something where the coach scouted you

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<v Speaker 2>from Raleigh was like, we want her.

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<v Speaker 4>So my cousin was a coach bor the Gardner Flames

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<v Speaker 4>at the time. Now they're the Carolina Own Flames, but

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<v Speaker 4>he was a coach for the team and basically was

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<v Speaker 4>talking to my mom about me coming to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good. Yeah, that's a good position to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you especially on the road, your mom knows

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<v Speaker 2>you a family, so you got somebody looking out for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Od times it's like if the parents can't travel, thereole

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<v Speaker 2>that they hope are taking care of their children.

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<v Speaker 4>And we couldn't, you know, because she had other kids

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<v Speaker 4>and like the money yeah, so expensive. Yeah, it was expensive,

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<v Speaker 4>and we didn't have like sponsors and things that the

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<v Speaker 4>kids are getting now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we had to make it work with what

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<v Speaker 1>we had.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that if basketball didn't come up, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think you would be doing now?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe running track? I was also in the band What

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<v Speaker 1>issue did you play?

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<v Speaker 3>I played the drums.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a snare drummer and I was first chair

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<v Speaker 4>in middle school. In high school, my band director wanted

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<v Speaker 4>me to continue in college and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, nah, I'm not about to be a bankie.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm playing ball.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you picked up the drums at all? Like

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<v Speaker 2>just to play around, and she got off it in

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<v Speaker 2>so long.

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<v Speaker 4>And I always said, and when I bought my house

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, when I got my first house, I was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna buy drum.

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<v Speaker 1>Set and I never did. Never did. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's something you may do just for fun later?

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<v Speaker 4>I think so, Like I still love it. When I

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<v Speaker 4>go to church, I always watch the drummers. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>something that still stands out to me. But oh so

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<v Speaker 4>when I was in New York, maybe like a few

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, we was in Times Square and it was

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<v Speaker 4>a guy out drumming on the snare drum and I

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<v Speaker 4>went over and I played the drums with him. I

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<v Speaker 4>think I even posted on my social Yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 4>brought back memories, you know, like I still remember some

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<v Speaker 4>of the beats. But it's still a love of man.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a band moment where I played the clarinet

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<v Speaker 2>for like a week and I was like, y'all don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do this. And then in church, I hated

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<v Speaker 2>wearing pantyhose, so I was like, if I play the drums,

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<v Speaker 2>I can wear pants because I got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have my legs open.

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<v Speaker 2>I was anything to like not wear pantyhose, And okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, get me.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you play the drum?

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<v Speaker 2>No way, you can wear these pantyhose in his dress

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<v Speaker 2>and getting that quiet that's what you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like my mom, seriously, that's funny. Yeah, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what it.

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<v Speaker 1>Also had a basketball moment. My mom played basketball. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like a star in our town.

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<v Speaker 2>And we had enner mials like in high school interviews

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<v Speaker 2>how you said in high school? And I had a

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<v Speaker 2>really good day that day and the coach came in

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you're actually really good, Like I can work

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<v Speaker 2>with this, and I said okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was a cheerleader and a dancer and I

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<v Speaker 2>went to my mom and we were at gymnastics that

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<v Speaker 2>night and I kept falling on my head trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get this backflip, and I was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play basketball. But I'll tell you my

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<v Speaker 1>mama put me in that corner.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, you listen here, you're gonna get this backflip

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not going to embarrass me.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta flips.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the ball playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel like I got hoo dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>I could have done it.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, you mess up my legs.

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<v Speaker 3>That is funny.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that's funny because a lot of parents that played,

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<v Speaker 4>they're like, Okay, my kid's gonna play whether you mess up,

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<v Speaker 4>like you're not and mom was like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, we're doing these flip exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Reminded me of Tim har Junior recently getting his father's

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<v Speaker 2>jersey yeah and first and dad was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, nah, yeah, it's my jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was like, I've been I know what. That

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like they're liked, we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a story to tell that is too funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom was like, no, maybe not doing it. So need

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<v Speaker 2>to say her legacy is still intact, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, keep my legacy alive exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at the younger version of yourself, what have you

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<v Speaker 2>worked hardest to hold on to from young time?

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<v Speaker 1>M hm my, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably like my my love, my faith of my family,

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<v Speaker 4>just the morals on how I was raised. Even as

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<v Speaker 4>an adult, no matter what I'm going through, no matter

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing, I'm always thinking like, Okay, my mother

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<v Speaker 4>is watching, my family is watching.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something that's been stilled in me since a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that and I can see that when I

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<v Speaker 2>say your reputation, reputation proceeds itself, like when you walking

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<v Speaker 2>through them, everybody's like, man, Ty, so solid. Like before

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you, I knew how cool you were just

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<v Speaker 2>based off our mutual friends. So I can tell that's

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<v Speaker 2>something you take serious now actually knowing you, I appreciate that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the pivot. I was talking to Shelley

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<v Speaker 2>about this. I know a lot of athletes, like since

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<v Speaker 2>middle school when the first person saw like this, she

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<v Speaker 2>has something, or high school, ty has something. Everything is

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<v Speaker 2>catered around the athlete to get her to the point

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<v Speaker 2>that we want her to get.

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<v Speaker 1>To, which is the WNBA.

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<v Speaker 2>So your whole life, everybody's catering to you, catering to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the w WNBA is over.

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<v Speaker 1>You're retiring.

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<v Speaker 2>That morning you wake up and it's no going to

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<v Speaker 2>the gym, to the training facility, people tie what do

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<v Speaker 2>you need?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want to eat? Like everybody's waiting on

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<v Speaker 1>your hand and foot.

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<v Speaker 2>What did that moment feel like when you were like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, this is a pivot, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>shift or were you already preparing for that before it ended?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I wasn't prepared at all and not at all.

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<v Speaker 4>So my last season of actually playing was twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 4>and when I had my ex and meeting, I was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to go back to Las Vegas for twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>which was during that time the bubble, right, but before

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<v Speaker 4>the season started, I got a call about them not

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<v Speaker 4>having a roster spot for me. So in my mind

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<v Speaker 4>I was prepared for another WBA season, but it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>So I went into like a short depression stage because

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what was next, you know, like it

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<v Speaker 4>stopped so abruptly, and me and my mom we did

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<v Speaker 4>a fast together. But fortunately for me, because I was

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<v Speaker 4>already building a brand while I was playing, and I

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<v Speaker 4>you know, have relationships and I started my tye clothing business,

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to start a pivot there. It was difficult,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because like I said, I wasn't prepared, but

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<v Speaker 4>I did have something that I could focus on and

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<v Speaker 4>put my passion into even more. Yeah, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>started to pivot. I started to build more into my

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<v Speaker 4>brand and continue to network and build on the relationships

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<v Speaker 4>that I had.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I can imagine how like not being prepared because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times people know, Yeah, I'm getting older.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that time?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? So let me figure out I'm a coach

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<v Speaker 2>or be an analyst to build a brand like whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the case ain't be. But I can't imagine I can

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<v Speaker 2>because it's similar to TV, like you think you got

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<v Speaker 2>to show, you think you can renew it, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like we're doing the numbers they got to renew us,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's like, yeah, you're canceled. Like I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it happen so many times.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened to us last year with Basketball Wives, Wow, I

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<v Speaker 4>was over with Yeah it's canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>She's A'm sad because that was a hit show. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it was, and it was like doing well.

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<v Speaker 4>But even with that, you know, I haven't worked in

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<v Speaker 4>a year after that until I just you know, started

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<v Speaker 4>this analyst st with the WNBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's been many pivots that I had to do

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<v Speaker 4>where it wasn't really a major plan that I had

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm banking on what I'm doing, like what's in

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<v Speaker 4>front of me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the type of person I've been.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always focused on what was in front of me

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<v Speaker 4>and not try to go too far ahead. And so

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<v Speaker 4>it's been times where I've had moments that people wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>even know because I'm still smiling, I'm still you know,

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<v Speaker 4>being positive, and I'm really at home, like in the dark,

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<v Speaker 4>going through like things of life, those pivots. But with

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<v Speaker 4>my faith and with my family, I've been able to prevail.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why that's something that I hold on and

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<v Speaker 4>I value alize is faith, family.

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<v Speaker 1>Like love, because that's how I was raised. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love that your mom prompted you to fast

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<v Speaker 2>and that she did it with you. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people don't understand the power of fast, and let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that and talk about what you fasted from and

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<v Speaker 2>like how that what God reveals you in that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It was for one like.

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<v Speaker 4>Social media and then like doing the food, like not

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<v Speaker 4>eating during a certain time, and it's part like being disciplined,

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<v Speaker 4>you taking away things that you truly love and that

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<v Speaker 4>you probably spend so much time on. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really know much about fast, but I know my mother

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<v Speaker 4>always did it. Yeah, and one of the big things also,

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<v Speaker 4>she always pointed out, was paying my tides.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know those two.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was, like I said, I was in a

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<v Speaker 4>dark moment and I didn't know what to do, and

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<v Speaker 4>I had my mom who was like, look, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>fast together.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how it started.

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<v Speaker 4>And it took me to another level because during that time,

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<v Speaker 4>you're taking away from social media, are you taking away

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<v Speaker 4>from things that you always honed on, and you're praying

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<v Speaker 4>and so you know, prayer works. And I know that

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<v Speaker 4>because I've been in these places where that's all I

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<v Speaker 4>had to rely on. And you know, thanks to my

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<v Speaker 4>mom because before she even became a pastor's wife, she

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<v Speaker 4>was always in the church and she was always instilling

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<v Speaker 4>in us, like we're going to church, we're gonna pray,

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<v Speaker 4>and even before I really knew, you know what it meant,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just something that stilled.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because we always talk about training a

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<v Speaker 2>child and the way they should go, and they always

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<v Speaker 2>return to the Lord. And I know for me, I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely was a prodigal daughter, Like I went out and

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<v Speaker 2>wild out, and then God met me where I was

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I knew I had to lean

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<v Speaker 2>on him and it was in that moment that I

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<v Speaker 2>built relationship with him. And I think as adults, we

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<v Speaker 2>find that moment where God is like, all right, now

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<v Speaker 2>it's me and you. This ain't on your mama no more.

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<v Speaker 1>She did her part. Now it's us, and you realize

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<v Speaker 1>God is all we have.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's been so many moments where I had to

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<v Speaker 2>lean on that. But you talked about tithing. As a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>my parents always said, whatever you get, make sure you give.

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<v Speaker 2>From my very first job.

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<v Speaker 1>You put tent aside for church. I'm like, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember my dad was building some apartments in

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<v Speaker 2>the town that we lived in, and I had tied

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<v Speaker 2>and then like a few days later, like some more

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<v Speaker 2>money came to me out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like drive over to the apartments and I'm like, Dade, Dad.

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<v Speaker 3>He really works, I swear.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I tied my check from the

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<v Speaker 2>pool in the movies and I was like, and then

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<v Speaker 2>this happened and he was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, honor what God gives you, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>And it may not come back in money, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you don't do it, it may come in

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<v Speaker 2>a flat tire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got to buy a new tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you'll start having to spend more money than what

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't because certain things just start to fall apart

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not honest what you have. And I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought about that, and there were moments where

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<v Speaker 2>I fell from that and I can see everything starting

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<v Speaker 2>to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, rumble and tie.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you hear me?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking around like I should have took that sacrifice

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<v Speaker 4>and paid them tied listen. But it is like you

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<v Speaker 4>learned because in those moments, it's like, all right, you

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<v Speaker 4>got a job.

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<v Speaker 1>You make it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right now, how are supposed to put ten percent?

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<v Speaker 4>Because how I'm a paper this and I got this.

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<v Speaker 4>But then when you actually do it, you make that sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's the biggest thing is to sacrifice. Said do it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the blessings come.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, this is what they was talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>I've made the sacrifice and you don't know where it's

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<v Speaker 4>coming from. But that's when the faith come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm telling you because like I'm a living testimony,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's been so many times where I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>no work, I don't have things coming in, and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, like what is next? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>But you you lean on God and you lean on

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<v Speaker 3>your faith.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know that you've been disciplined and did the

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<v Speaker 4>sacrifices and the blessings come you like, thank you Lord,

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is this is what it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've seen it from me, like talking about not

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<v Speaker 2>having a lot where I'm making six hundred dollars every

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, and then I'm like having this sixty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>I needed. I'm like I need this, Lord, You're sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a blessing come and then understanding like because

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<v Speaker 2>we honor that, Yeah, He's able to trust us with

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<v Speaker 2>the with them with the abundance, right, And I continue

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<v Speaker 2>to practice the same principles now that I have an

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<v Speaker 2>abundance of lay and I'm like, wow, God, I see,

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<v Speaker 2>I see what you're doing. And now I give so

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<v Speaker 2>much credit to my parents who are instilling those principles

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<v Speaker 2>in me. And a lot of people now they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't giving to the church.

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<v Speaker 1>Da da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, listen, I mean when I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>church home, I would pour it into foundations or making

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm helping people or churches that have poured into me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would get to those.

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<v Speaker 2>If I didn't have like a home church and then

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<v Speaker 2>when I found the church that I loved, I would

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<v Speaker 2>still get to my home church back in Tennessee, but

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<v Speaker 2>then I would give to the church that that was

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<v Speaker 2>really pouring into me here in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>And it didn't. Mada. I'm like, listen, you can't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about like what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>That money is God, I swear, And that's the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I see on social media, are just in

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<v Speaker 4>life people.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about the church home? Are they talking about these people?

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<v Speaker 1>Not right? But that's not on you on God.

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<v Speaker 3>That's only if you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, have that faith in that relationship, you would

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<v Speaker 4>truly know, like you said, because I'm paying my ties

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<v Speaker 4>whatever y'all decide to do with that, that's not on me.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm doing my part and I have my relationship

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<v Speaker 4>with God. But even as it started as a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>like before I understood and my mom was like.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, get ready for church, and I would like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was sick because because I didn't want to go

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<v Speaker 3>to church, I wanted to sleep in listen. So she's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're too sick to go to church, you're too

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<v Speaker 3>sick to go outside, you too sick to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, yeah, I was sick, but that I

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<v Speaker 4>feel better now. So it started early in my mom's house.

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<v Speaker 4>But now I could be hanging out and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>matter what time I get home. I'm getting up and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to church, same same or I will book

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<v Speaker 4>a flight to get back home for church. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>play back game, yes, and if I if I'm out

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<v Speaker 4>of the country, I can't get here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching online.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get that. I needed that for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's my fuel. But that comes with relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and when you start to honor that the

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<v Speaker 2>same way we honor our friendships, our relationships with our parents,

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 2>our significant others. God wants the same attention.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. He's a jealous guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think when you build that relationship you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to let him down. The things that keep you

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<v Speaker 2>in alignment with him become more important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you on that tie.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk a lot about faith, and I know you

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of pivots, and you talk about dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with depression. What is one moment that you can share

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<v Speaker 2>with us that you really had to lean on God.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I have a lot of one.

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<v Speaker 4>I would probably say, like recently, you know, after I

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<v Speaker 4>did Basketball Wives and they canceled it. And even before then,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I was I was coaching, and then our

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<v Speaker 4>head coach got fired, so ultimately, you know, our job

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<v Speaker 4>and then I did the show, and after that, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know what was next, you know, and I know

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<v Speaker 4>I still wanted to coach, but then there was things

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<v Speaker 4>like okay, well, well I still be able to coach

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<v Speaker 4>because I just did this reality show, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's always different judgments and so not working and

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<v Speaker 4>you you're spending money and you don't know where it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to start coming back in from. You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>just see this money going out and not none coming in.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, like my life didn't change, but I

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<v Speaker 4>had to make changes and I had to just pray

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 4>and hope that something would come, you know, because I

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 4>didn't really know what to do, and I was still

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 4>trying to figure out can I still coach? What is

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 4>it that I want to do? And you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>just prayed and I just you know, talked to my

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 4>family and I and I was going to church and

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to church a lot more because I'm like, okay, God,

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<v Speaker 4>like now you're doing this in my life because I

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 4>always pointed back to him, you are telling me that

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.959
<v Speaker 4>you need more from me, yep, And that's exactly what

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I did. And then I got you know, I started

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 4>getting phone calls for different job opportunities and they all came,

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, from out of nowhere, and that was the sign,

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 4>like I'm pouring in, I'm doing what I'm supposed to,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm being disciplined in the midst of going through what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going through, and now like the blessings are here,

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<v Speaker 4>they're coming, and I just every day I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, even as far as like my skin clearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, you know, I'm like, I was going through some

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and I just I'm just grateful.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was just recently, you know, that I was

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<v Speaker 4>in those dark places and I was stressed out because

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know, and the blessings just started pouring and coming.

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.120
<v Speaker 4>And that's why I say, like, I'm always with my faith,

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm always grateful and I'm always thankful because I have

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 4>several times where I've been in those dark spaces and

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 4>God has brought me through.

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<v Speaker 1>No, definitely, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of times when we're in

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.199
<v Speaker 2>those moments, God pulls us closer to him, and then

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the things start happening, we get so busy that we

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 2>lose that relationship again or that time like I gotta

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 2>get up, I gotta do this this, and God's like

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm still here, like I still need that time that

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I needed before I started giving you all this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell people like, once you get it, you got

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>to continue to spend that time with him, Like you said,

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I thanking, I'm grateful, thank you God for these lessons

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 2>because you know it's from Him.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you get caught up in the moments where

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 4>you're going through things, you know we have a problem

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 4>where we try to stay busy.

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>We try to find ways to cope with it.

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 4>And I did that, like I will go out and

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 4>I will be hanging out and I will go have

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 4>drinks with my friends. But ultimately that's not fixing anything.

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 4>It is you know, it is making it worse because

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 4>now the next day I'm tired and I don't want.

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>To do nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I had to sit with myself, and

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:21.400
<v Speaker 3>that's what I did.

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 4>I learned to sit with myself and I learned to

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 4>pour in and go to church and focus and pray

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 4>and so it really that's really.

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>What it was.

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<v Speaker 2>No, for sure, I get it. I love that tide

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 2>because I did not know this about you. I just

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 2>learned that your mother was a first lady and that

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>your stepfather's a pastor. But knowing that you have that,

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I can tell that you're covered. You know, you can

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 2>see that you have a light aboue and only God's

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 2>children really.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Carry that light.

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 2>So I see it on you, but to hear the stories,

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 2>it's really dope. I love that, and I love that

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>you're so open about sharing the things you've been through,

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 2>because one thing about this platform is that they see

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 2>they see how young on basketball wives, they see the

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>WBA player, they see the coach, they see everything, but

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 2>they don't see like how you said, I can be smiling,

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>but when I go home, I'm in this dark place. Yeah,

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I think people need to see more

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 2>of that so they can know, like, hey, I can

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 2>continue to be positive even if I am going through this.

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times we allow that darkness to consume

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>us and it's hard to get out of it.

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for just being open.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to say, sure, sir, we talked about

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 4>that vulnerability and I've learned over the years to be

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 4>better with that. And also I have to shout out

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 4>to you know, being like one of my best friends,

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 4>but she helped me to even even when it comes

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 4>to expressing yourself, like with messages, with dating, like communicate yep,

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 4>and be vulnerable, you know, because I'm putting out there

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 4>and let you know how I feel.

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's on you on how you take it.

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Because before I'm like, I'm not writing that, I'm not

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 4>doing this, you know, like I'm not expressing, like we

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 4>ain't gonna know how I feel, yeah, you know.

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm like, I'm gonna let you know how I.

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 4>Feel and I'm in tune with my emotions and who

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 4>I am.

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I learned the vulnerability.

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Over time, I've got a lot better.

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Good I love that and shout out our good cismo appreciate.

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I love that. That's good. You need friends like that absolutely.

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>That will help you just grow and continue to develop

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times we lose good people because

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.719
<v Speaker 2>we don't communicate or because we don't know how to express.

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And then sometimes you lose people because you do know

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 2>how to do it. Those people can go on Yeah, sweetie,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>we already have inside junk, y'all.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 2>You talk about relationships you have on social media. You're

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>active and you have been crowned like this lover girl,

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like everybody loves tie, and I want to know what

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>has what is it have been like having your relationships

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of like I know for me what it's been

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>like when people being in line, like they find out

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>who you dating and then it's picked apart.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you prefer that or do you like to keep

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>things private?

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 4>I've always been like a private person. Yeah, not until

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 4>when I first did reality TV. Has my relationship become public?

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 4>And you have a lot of people that will see

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 4>things on the internet.

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And feel like they know you and don't know you

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>at all.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, and prior I used to you know what,

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 4>go back and forth until I learned. I'm like, this

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 4>is what y'all want, So I ignore it because I'm like,

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 4>you don't know me, And if you want to judge

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 4>me off of something you see or something somebody else said,

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 4>I have nothing to do with that, right. The people

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 4>that know me know who I am I and I

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 4>take value in my people. But it's you have to

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 4>have tough skin, you know, because people will say anything

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 4>on the internet to try to tear you down. And

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 4>if you're not confident in who you are and where

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 4>you come from and what you're doing, that.

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Will happen to you. Yeah.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 4>But because from the ground I've got, you know, my

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 4>love and my attention and who I am from my family,

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 4>that I don't rely.

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>On what other people think of me. No, for sure,

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how I keep going. That's good. I love that.

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Same with me.

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand what I was signing up for, and

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the same for you when you were signing

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>up for television, thinking like, okay, this would be fun,

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>like this is another way to have exposure to continue to.

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Grow my brand.

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>You're probably looking at it from that lens, not understanding

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>everything that comes.

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Along with being in the limelight. And for me it

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>was a big adjustment to you. Like in the.

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Beginning, I was taking everything they said personally. I was like,

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, they don't even they don't you don't

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 2>know me literally, And then it's like you don't know,

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>like they don't know me, Like yeah, I want to

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>explain everything, and like, no, that's not what it is,

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and then finally I was like, they don't know me.

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly they don't. So why are you sitting there

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth. People don't know you for real,

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and those people who are naysayers and negative, I shouldn't

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>be giving them my energy anyway.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>So I totally understand that.

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>What was the biggest adjustment after going on television that

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you had to kind of shift because there was a

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you were on TV for basketball, but now

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing your whole life.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was different, right, you know.

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 4>I think me playing basketball and having critics in that

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 4>game as well, it helped me when I was doing TV. Yeah,

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 4>we'll get, you know, critics for you know, trying to

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 4>talk about my relationship or who I am. I already

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, had a wall because I had to deal

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 4>with it with basketball. You know, if you have a

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 4>bad game, they talking about you like get her out

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 4>of here, she sucks, you know, And that's I had

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 4>to let it go in one air and at the

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 4>other because now I have to prepare for my next game, right,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 4>So that kind of prepared me for TV. But like

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 4>you said, I had to learn.

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>That these people don't know me and not to.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Have to explain myself in it, because who I am

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 4>in my relationship has nothing.

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>To do with those people point of view.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 4>And you will spend your whole life trying to explain

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 4>who you are to people that don't know you. So

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 4>those are things that I learned, but from being who

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I am, I never let it stop me from being

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.479
<v Speaker 4>the lover. And if I am in a relationship, I'm

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 4>gonna love my person regardless, and I'm not.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Shy of that, you know. And that's just what I

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 3>stand on.

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 4>And that's one thing I always to say, like if

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm dating somebody seriously, like in a relationship, you're gonna

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 4>know because I don't have to hire my person to

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 4>be private, right, And I feel like there is a

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 4>difference in being private and like being sneaky.

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.479
<v Speaker 1>That a big difference. You're just saying something there.

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 2>It's a big difference between being private and sneaky or

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>hiding your person, you know, And I totally agree with that.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm the same way. I'm private and definitely not see

0:31:57.920 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>if you see it, you see it right, you saw us.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>He was like Okay, hey, yeah, like we're not hiding it.

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>That's with anybody, Like I'm not hiding it. If you

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>see it, you see it.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not going to just put it out there

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>to see so that you can tear it apart. And

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, some things, I feel like they're so invested

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>in us, you know, and they love us that they

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 2>just want to make sure that our person is right

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 2>for us.

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>But only we can decide that right.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm the same way. Definitely private, but not sneak. Yeah,

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>if you see do you see it?

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Exactly your stepfather's pastor your mom's the first lady watching

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>their relationship up close and personal.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>What did that teach you about?

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Love? Teach me balance, you know, but also that relationships

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 4>take work. And my mother always said that, and I

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 4>didn't really understand, you know, until I became of age

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 4>that you will have differences, but it becomes you have

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 4>to make compromises and you have to make sacrifices. And

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 4>I realized that if two people want a relationship to work,

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 4>it will work.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>My parents have been married.

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Twenty two years now, and they started dating when I

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.239
<v Speaker 4>was in high school, a junior in high school, got

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 4>married when I.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Was a senior.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.719
<v Speaker 4>But just seeing their growth and how they are with

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 4>each other, they protect each other. They have each other's back.

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 4>But it's not like my dad won't get on my

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 4>mom nerves or vice versa. But they take care of

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 4>each other in ways that works for them. And it

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 4>gives me hope to have that one day because I

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 4>see it right in front of me, and I admire

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 4>it and I love it. And you know, like the

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 4>other day, I asked, I'm like, is it weird for

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 4>me to be obsessed with my parents because I just admire,

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, how they are because it's not like everything

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 4>is always perfect, but I see two people that fight

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 4>for each other, and that's why I know in relationships,

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, you will go through things.

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>But if we both wanted to work, it's going to

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>work exactly.

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 4>And social media a lot of times don't show you that.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 4>It shows you that you have all these options. And

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 4>if it ain't working over here, let me go over

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 4>here because this would be better for me. But that

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 4>ain't gonna work if you're not working on yourself and

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 4>two people are trying to make it work together.

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Come on, talk about it. That is so good.

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>You were young when your parents met. What did you

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>see the love that he had for your mother? Immediately

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>or was it one of those things where he had

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to kind of like prove himself. And how did you

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 2>feel that this new man coming into the home.

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I saw it immediately because my dad, my stepdad, was intentional.

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>You call him your dad?

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I called him that.

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Same with my mom, I called hieah because he was

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 4>a dad to me, you know, and my even with

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 4>my biological father he passed away in twenty fifteen, but

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 4>my daddy John is what I call him. He was

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 4>just intentional from the beginning. I just I'm an observer,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 4>so I'll watch how he like just took care of

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 4>my mom, how he opened the door, how he makes

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 4>sure she's getting to her seat, how he like watches her.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 4>And I seen it early, you know, like without saying anything,

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 4>I would just watch how he would take care of her,

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 4>and how he would look after me early, you know,

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 4>like I'm a high school kid, Like I'm not a baby.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 4>You don't really have to take care of me. But

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 4>he stepped in and was willing to do it. So

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 4>that showed me the type of man that he was,

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 4>not only to my mom, but how the man he

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 4>is and how he was to my mom's kids.

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:34.280
<v Speaker 1>For sure, I love that, and that's important.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 2>When parents are stepping in to children that aren't their

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 2>biological children, you gotta make sure that you treat them

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>as your own. And I say, my mother passed when

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I was two. My dad remarried my stepmom, but I

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>call her mom. Yeah, she's all I ever knew. So

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I totally get that. And when a person comes in

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>and really steps in as a mother or father figure,

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 2>that is who they are, you know. So I totally

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>get that, and I love that because not everyone is

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>as fortunate.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the same with my parents. They've been together thirty

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>some years now, and.

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Not everything is perfect. But I've seen them argue, I've

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 2>seen them make up.

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen them.

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Be like all right, whatever my dad now, like they

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 2>can disagree and it's just like, all right, so what

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 2>we're going to like, you know, you.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Have that comfort, you know, and you know, like, this

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 4>is my person. It doesn't matter if you're having a

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 4>bad day or not. I know you're going to be home.

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 4>I know you're going to be there. You know, like

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to go out because you mad at me,

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 4>you know. So I just see it, and I'm just like,

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to have something like.

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>How can we I feel like that may be a

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>lost art in our generation. Listen and the way it's going,

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, It's like, we want and

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>we aspire to have what our parents had and grateful

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>that we had the examples. But sometimes we're dating people

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 2>who didn't have that example, so we're all, let me

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 2>get off your toes, get off of them.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 3>No, there's and and that's the thing.

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 4>People don't have the example, and people don't know what

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 4>they don't know, so in their mind it's like, yeah, no,

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not doing that, or I'm not doing this, or

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 4>why should I have to compromise it?

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's just like you don't know. Yeah, so

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 3>that's real.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>You don't know.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 2>And I want to ask you something. And this is

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little personal, and if it's if.

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It's we can just edit it.

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Just preface you are you come from a home that

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>is rooted in faith, but you are in the same

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 2>sex relationships.

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 1>When did you know?

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 2>And then what was that conversation like with your mom?

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>And was that hearted? Did she already my parents were

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>like we already do that? Or did they already know?

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Did she already know?

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 4>She she knew, but I think she felt it was

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 4>a phase. So the first time I ever dated a woman,

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 4>I was in college and during the time, I was

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 4>still dating guys, but never at the same time. And

0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 4>so the last part was the last guy that I

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.240
<v Speaker 4>was like in a relationship with, like I stopped talking

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 4>to him and my parents loved him, right, and he

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 4>thought like, oh, he's going to be the one.

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's like, praise the lout, yeah right.

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 4>And so it's funny because my mom was asking me

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 4>about the guy and my dad was like, Linda, Tim

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 4>was not stutting that.

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Guy, you know, like they said in the country.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that y'all is like, she is not stuttying that guy, right,

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 4>And so it was never a conversation that we that

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 4>we had. It was just like, you know, because you

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 4>don't see any guys around. And one time, you know,

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 4>my my girl at the time, came home and you know,

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 4>she stayed with me, but my mom didn't know. Yeah,

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 4>And I'm funny about people in my space. I don't

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 4>like people in my space. I don't like sharing my bed, like.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Unless you know it's person.

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 4>So my mom was like, well, you don't want your

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 4>sister to sleep with you, but you didn't have a

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 4>problem when your friend came and stayed and stay with you.

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I with you when you're.

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Right, Mama, I have no like. So so I think

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 4>the main thing, you know, like I said, she thought

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 4>it was a phase, and she was like, well, I'm

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 4>gonna keep praying prayer words, you know.

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 3>And I think it was.

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 4>When I told her I was going to propose in

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 4>that relationship and she just broke down crying and she's like,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 4>please don't. And my mom is my heart. So now

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:29.839
<v Speaker 4>I'm getting me motion. I'm like, man, I gotta call

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 4>you later because this is the day before I'm about

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 4>to do it.

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 4>So I still went through it because for me, I'm

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 4>like honor and I respect my parents, but I don't

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 4>live my life, you know, for my parents.

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>But it was never like a sit down conversation. It

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 1>was just more so like you see and you see

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Yeah, yeah, that's good.

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean the girl and I was like, she

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 2>is not what that is.

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, please stop bringing this guy up to

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 3>my baby, because this ain't.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>That right right.

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>And I know a lot of Christian households. Can that

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 2>can be a division, you know, And my parents always

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 2>said that if one of us decided that's what it was,

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 2>that we're gonna.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Love you the same. Yeah, you're our child and we love.

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>You, and you got to start out your own salvation

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 2>between you and guy whatever, you know what I'm saying that,

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna love you regardless.

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's my parents. They're like, we love you. And

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 4>my dad had to step in during that time. He's like,

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 4>you know where we staying, you know how we are,

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 4>But we're gonna love you regardless, and we're gonna always.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Be here for you.

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm grateful because there are a lot of people that

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 4>is in you know, my position who parents disown them. Yes,

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 4>and my parents love me down. So I'm grateful for

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 4>that because I.

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Know it's hard.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, as humans, we want our parents, yes, no

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 4>matter how old we get, you.

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Know, and the order we give the more we want,

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the more we want them. And so I am grateful

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>for that. Yeah, that's beautiful.

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had any internal, like spiritual moments where

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 2>you battled with that between you and God were like

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of like struggling with that.

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 4>Not I know this probably not crazy, but not much

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 4>like of a struggle because for me, I'm like God knows,

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, what I'm feeling and what's going on. Like

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 4>he's watching everything, right, And like I told my mom before,

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I don't want to do something like is

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 4>this bad?

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 4>Want to do something that I don't like or you know,

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm uncomfortable with. So I'm like, am I supposed to

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 4>be with a man and marry a man? Because that's

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 4>the right thing to do, even though it's what I'm

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 4>uncomfortable with.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 4>So I it's times where I used to be in

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 4>my head and think about it, but.

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Now I don't.

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm just like God knows what's going on,

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>but he's watching me.

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Now, was there?

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Like? Because I know a lot of women they are

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 2>not just stay on the sea loon, but I know

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of women. It's something that happens with a

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>man where they're like I'm done like that.

0:41:58.840 --> 0:41:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Have one of my.

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Friends you may know her, but she was like yeah,

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm good and she never turned back wait with like

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>for God, she was done with God.

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that was me. I'm just like I

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 4>like women more and I don't. I was never want

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 4>to go back and forth like or I mean, I

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 4>was never want to be at the same time like

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 4>dating a guy and I'm dating a woman Like, no,

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 4>I would be with a woman. Okay, that's not our

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 4>date to God. But I'm like, I don't want to

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 4>date a guy. Yeah, I'm cool, you know. And it's

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 4>not like I don't find men attractive. I just have

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 4>no desire to be with them, like at all.

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So I'm fine.

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm good where I'm at. Yeah, okay, last question, if

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you single or not.

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm single.

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I've been single for a long time now. Really, now

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.919
<v Speaker 1>are you enjoying this single phase of life?

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 3>It's it's refreshing, you know.

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 1>But there like get to the thief, Yeah, get get

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>in there.

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 4>No, it's really refreshing, you know, because like I said,

0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm a person that pours.

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I pour to my person show up.

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 4>I show up, and I'm gonna fight for my relationship

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 4>like until I just can't no more. And so now

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm finally like focused on me and doing what I

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 4>feel best is best for me. Like I'm not even

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 4>dating nobody right now, and normally I like to date,

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, like I like to have like a little

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 4>companion or whatever.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But I just been in this space.

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I am a love.

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Girl, like and it's hard being a love girl in

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>this generation. Listen, they don't want to be loved. They

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 1>don't they don't know what love is, honestly.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 4>But I just I'm in this space because it's hard dating,

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 4>like finding somebody that wants the same thing as you.

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, people be lying all the time, and I

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 4>don't have I'm about to be forty. I don't have

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 4>time for that. So I'm like until God actually sends

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 4>the person to me. Like, I'm not out looking, I'm

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 4>not out like trying to you know, be a match whatever.

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like when it happens when it's supposed to happen.

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 3>So I don't wanna tell you.

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.879
<v Speaker 2>I just had earned your leisure on yesterday and they're

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>doing a single night.

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like a lounge where they're gonna vet them.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm scared we can go in there.

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:11.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go girl, Troy Chard I said, listen, I said,

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and bet them for me.

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>To the side.

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 4>I need somebody to bet him for me, because, like

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.399
<v Speaker 4>one of my friends said, you gonna be picking them right,

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I might need a vetter for.

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Real, because I do like I'm the type of person

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I want my friends to introduce you to people because

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I need somebody to vouch for the person, like to

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>be like, no, this is a good person.

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I think y'all should just meet have some dinner. Because

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:35.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I.

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Said coffee, but like a lot of people like you

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 2>just go have coffee, Like I don't get coffee, but eat,

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 2>have a little drink or something and meet new people.

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.479
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, but sometimes they One lady came up.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 2>To me, y'all they prevent child and she was like,

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 2>my cousin is just in love with you. And she

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.959
<v Speaker 2>was like he used to play football. She's like he's

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 2>very handsome.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Child. I'm wonna pull that picture up, I said, Colin.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>President Colin then the picture and I was like, you

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>don't call your.

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Eyes don't work like.

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.800
<v Speaker 4>But you know, the thing is too even with friends vouching,

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 4>a friend knows a person as a friend, they don't

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 4>know them as a partner.

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 3>So it's different.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because somebody about someone as a person as a friend,

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 4>like oh, this is a great friend of mine, and

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 4>then you start dating and you're like this person is terrible.

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 4>Like they might be a great friend, but they are

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 4>not a great person for a partner.

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a lot about that. That's good.

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's real. It's tough.

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>It's hard in these streets.

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Listen then, too, when you have so many people that

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 4>you know are coming after you, how do you know

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 4>all right? One?

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>That's another? How do you know they want you for

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you or like Tye Young.

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 3>They want the experience.

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 4>And getting them the experience because this is I learned

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 4>my place. Listen, you got not getting this young experience.

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Listen till you prove yourself. Okay, that's real.

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Because people see the life you live, they see the

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 2>people that you are attached to, and they want a

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 2>part of that. Sometimes that they're for the wrong reason.

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 2>So how do you even decipher who is for you?

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Is it a feeling or is it just time to

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>get to know somebody where you can kind of see

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 2>their characteristics.

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like clearly clearly, I don't know right like,

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 4>but nah, I think it takes time. And for me,

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 4>like I'll be talking to myself at home sometimes and

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 4>I was saying I have to do a better job

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 4>at vetting people, you know, like I see a person,

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, she's.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Pretty, I like her smile, we have great conversation.

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 4>But you really have to vet people, you know, to

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 4>see like what they've been through and who they are

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 4>around and how they handle their self. Because the beginning

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 4>is always fun, it's always nice. You're always going to

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.919
<v Speaker 4>get the great part. But then it's like, Okay, how

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.280
<v Speaker 4>are you in the midst of trials and like going

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 4>through things like how are you during that part? So

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I'm learning. I'm learning, you know,

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 4>as I've learned myself more too, that I have to

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 4>do a better job at vetting me too, because I'm

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 4>also an impath.

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 3>So I be feeling bad for people.

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Yirl, you're trying to save folks.

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I be saying myself up like you cannot

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 4>fix this person.

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>You can't like heal them they you know.

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 4>So that's why that's why I am by myself right now,

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 4>and I'm just taking my time and letting things be

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:35.439
<v Speaker 4>as they may.

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>That's good and sometimes you just need that time, yeah,

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, And then a lot of times you got

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to I think one question we have to start asking

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 2>people is have you done the work?

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, are you healed? Have you been to therapy?

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>People lie?

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 3>She said, people you right? People you know, who are

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 3>you talking to?

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.959
<v Speaker 4>Listen because people look at me like, oh you only

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 4>like these types of houff.

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like these people lot. Okay, I say for.

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 4>The beginning, you know, I'm a lesbian, like and I say,

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, I want a family, and then these things

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, like I'm not putting on

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 4>no mask, like I am who I am. And so

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 4>that's why I say, I have to see, you know,

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.240
<v Speaker 4>like who wants to experience and who or who really

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 4>wants to date me?

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 3>So obviously, you know, like I have to do better

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 3>at deciphering.

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes the ones.

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna stay on you that and I would

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 3>take that accountability, you know, like I have to do better.

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:35.839
<v Speaker 3>So that's what I'm doing. That's good. I'm with you.

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I gotta do the same thing because I'll think that

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:40.479
<v Speaker 2>I found something good.

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And then you said a few months as by, it's

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like that gold.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Or turned the bronze.

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Copper, got a little penny.

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Listen, SONI is still kicking. I'm like, gosh, I want

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to know before we get out of here, who is

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 2>tied beyond the jersey? Where do you see yourself going next?

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I know you're doing your analyst things. What else do

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 2>you want to do and what else do you aspire

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to be?

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Definitely I want to do more of being an analyst.

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 4>It I never imagine myself doing that, but I really

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 4>enjoy it. I really love still being around the game,

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 4>being able to break it down and being able to

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.399
<v Speaker 4>tell stories and speak from an experience as a twelve

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 4>year VEB but also as a one year coach. And

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 4>I want to continue to be able to host, you know,

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 4>like even if I started a podcast, but just being

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 4>able to host events and have conversations with people, because

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot that I've experienced, you know, in my

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 4>life and I don't speak on as much, but I

0:49:56.760 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 4>feel like conversations are important, like real conversation. Yeah, and

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 4>jump on that, you seriously, because there are a lot

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:09.319
<v Speaker 4>of new fans into women's sports, you know, in the

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.360
<v Speaker 4>decades and the generations of it, it is so much

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 4>that the new fans don't know. But I see me

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 4>continuing to speak on on sports.

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But also, you know, for my life.

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 4>One day having a family, and just having that stability

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 4>and not just it just being me.

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I can also see you writing a book. I am.

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I am writing a books for real. I can see it.

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:39.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's a proud y'all listen, and I have so

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 4>much I know.

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.479
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to read the New York Times.

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the author. I can't wait. It's a lot.

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot.

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll add it to the book club.

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for real, you know. So and I just and

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm just grateful, you know, because my life. Like you said,

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 4>we people don't know what you go through, and we

0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 4>all have the decision if we're going to sing our Yeah,

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 4>and I continue to swim.

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so you do, Ty, I love that.

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for sitting with us. This has

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 2>been an amazing conversation. I got to know you better.

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I know our audience got to know you better.

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Where can we follow you? We want to support you

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:14.839
<v Speaker 1>and everything you have.

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Going on Instagram? I missed Tie, y'all eleven. I have Twitter,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 4>but I don't really tweet, just threads.

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>It's the same.

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<v Speaker 4>I have TikTok I have funny stuff on tik Tak

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, get it, please get it shop. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>sell it out. Let's do it, y'all. Ty, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Thanks for having me. This was a joy.

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<v Speaker 1>We did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Todd, Thank you so much for reminding us that while

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<v Speaker 2>titles may open doors, they should never define who we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for sharing your journey with such honesty and

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<v Speaker 2>for showing us what it looks like to keep growing

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<v Speaker 2>and keep becoming.

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