1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,657 --> 00:00:23,497 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. We're very pleased. 5 00:00:23,537 --> 00:00:27,417 Speaker 2: On this episode, our friend Ryan Gerdski joins us. He 6 00:00:27,657 --> 00:00:33,057 Speaker 2: is the guy who writes the National Populist newsletter on Substack, 7 00:00:33,057 --> 00:00:34,737 Speaker 2: which you should all subscribe to. You I am a 8 00:00:34,777 --> 00:00:39,937 Speaker 2: subscriber and always look forward to new Substacks as they 9 00:00:39,937 --> 00:00:43,297 Speaker 2: are published there. He's also a political consultant, perhaps a 10 00:00:43,297 --> 00:00:44,817 Speaker 2: political wizard on his best days. 11 00:00:44,937 --> 00:00:47,857 Speaker 3: Great to have you, Ryan, Thanks for having me. 12 00:00:48,137 --> 00:00:52,017 Speaker 2: So let's start with American voter in twenty twenty four. 13 00:00:52,137 --> 00:00:55,057 Speaker 2: You crunch the numbers, you looked at the data. It's 14 00:00:55,097 --> 00:00:57,137 Speaker 2: about to get real, right. We've got a Republican debate 15 00:00:57,137 --> 00:00:59,777 Speaker 2: coming up soon. It's going to be the primaries before 16 00:00:59,777 --> 00:01:01,617 Speaker 2: we know what people are going to be casting ballots. 17 00:01:01,817 --> 00:01:04,497 Speaker 2: What O folks need to know about how twenty twenty 18 00:01:04,497 --> 00:01:08,057 Speaker 2: four is shaping up by the numbers so far, Well, the. 19 00:01:07,977 --> 00:01:10,577 Speaker 1: Biggest thing is what is the demographic of the country 20 00:01:10,657 --> 00:01:13,177 Speaker 1: going to look like? That's a big, big question. You know, 21 00:01:13,217 --> 00:01:17,417 Speaker 1: when George Bush ran in two thousand and four, the 22 00:01:17,457 --> 00:01:20,337 Speaker 1: country was almost eighty percent of the voting electorate was white. 23 00:01:20,737 --> 00:01:23,657 Speaker 1: You go to some swing states like Florida, sorry of 24 00:01:23,697 --> 00:01:27,417 Speaker 1: North Carolina. North Carolina was a biracial state. It was 25 00:01:27,537 --> 00:01:30,297 Speaker 1: just black and whites, I mean non people who are 26 00:01:30,337 --> 00:01:32,697 Speaker 1: not black, not white, were less than two percent of 27 00:01:32,697 --> 00:01:36,057 Speaker 1: the voting population. Those things aren't the same, aren't true 28 00:01:36,097 --> 00:01:41,057 Speaker 1: anymore at all. And I think what happens in people's heads, specifically, 29 00:01:41,177 --> 00:01:45,017 Speaker 1: is they get frozen in time. You know, the population 30 00:01:45,097 --> 00:01:47,297 Speaker 1: of voters who will be millennials and zoomers will be 31 00:01:47,337 --> 00:01:50,577 Speaker 1: up substantially. There were basically no zoomers in There were 32 00:01:50,577 --> 00:01:52,697 Speaker 1: none at all in sixteen, and there were very few 33 00:01:52,737 --> 00:01:55,017 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. There'll be substantially millions more in twenty 34 00:01:55,097 --> 00:01:59,257 Speaker 1: twenty four. And a lot of the biggest swing states 35 00:01:59,617 --> 00:02:05,617 Speaker 1: like North Carolina again, Arizona, Florida, have had population growth 36 00:02:05,737 --> 00:02:11,257 Speaker 1: that exceed the margins of previous elections cycles. So just 37 00:02:11,257 --> 00:02:14,617 Speaker 1: because something happened four or eighty years ago, because the 38 00:02:14,897 --> 00:02:20,617 Speaker 1: net migration interstatement migration, let alone forget immigration, that's the 39 00:02:20,657 --> 00:02:24,657 Speaker 1: interstate migration is so large and so profound. The pot 40 00:02:24,737 --> 00:02:28,497 Speaker 1: the fixed population and the fixed voting demographics have changed substantially, 41 00:02:28,537 --> 00:02:29,857 Speaker 1: and that's what we'll forget mostly. 42 00:02:31,217 --> 00:02:36,857 Speaker 2: Now, what is the biggest up for grabs voting demographic 43 00:02:37,297 --> 00:02:40,097 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four, Like if you could, oh, I. 44 00:02:40,097 --> 00:02:44,057 Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, I make I mean there has been substantial 45 00:02:44,417 --> 00:02:46,617 Speaker 1: change in the Asian. 46 00:02:46,257 --> 00:02:49,497 Speaker 3: And Hispanic vote. And I'll take an example of New 47 00:02:49,577 --> 00:02:50,017 Speaker 3: York City. 48 00:02:50,017 --> 00:02:53,537 Speaker 1: For example, New York City in Bronx, which you know, 49 00:02:53,577 --> 00:02:56,617 Speaker 1: the Bronx. The Bronx is a very heavily heavily Hispanic 50 00:02:56,697 --> 00:03:00,497 Speaker 1: majority population with no functional Republican party. There is no 51 00:03:00,537 --> 00:03:02,257 Speaker 1: Republican party in the Bronx. There might as well not 52 00:03:02,337 --> 00:03:07,137 Speaker 1: be their population. People who voted Republican in that county 53 00:03:07,657 --> 00:03:12,057 Speaker 1: almost doubled from some sixteen to twenty twenty. And then 54 00:03:12,057 --> 00:03:15,377 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one there was the mayoral election and 55 00:03:15,497 --> 00:03:19,097 Speaker 1: the population of people voting Republican increase, even as the 56 00:03:19,137 --> 00:03:22,257 Speaker 1: Republican candidate for mayor got like twenty eight percent in 57 00:03:22,337 --> 00:03:24,737 Speaker 1: the city. And then if you look at the governor's race, 58 00:03:24,777 --> 00:03:27,977 Speaker 1: which was more competitive, obviously the population of Republicans voting 59 00:03:27,977 --> 00:03:31,897 Speaker 1: in that county increased. Again, Republicans did not gain any 60 00:03:31,937 --> 00:03:34,017 Speaker 1: new votes from twenty twenty two from twenty twenty to 61 00:03:34,057 --> 00:03:36,217 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, but they did not lose any supporting 62 00:03:36,217 --> 00:03:39,417 Speaker 1: amongst Hispanics. So one of the biggest things is that 63 00:03:39,457 --> 00:03:42,697 Speaker 1: probably the Hispanic baseline level for Republicans is higher than 64 00:03:42,777 --> 00:03:46,897 Speaker 1: it was just you know, six years ago, eight years ago, 65 00:03:47,177 --> 00:03:49,497 Speaker 1: where the number would be in the mid twenties, it's 66 00:03:49,497 --> 00:03:52,377 Speaker 1: probably in the mid thirties. Now a great candidate, a 67 00:03:52,417 --> 00:03:55,257 Speaker 1: great campaign, you could probably get into the low forties, 68 00:03:55,297 --> 00:03:57,417 Speaker 1: which is good. But you have to remember a lot 69 00:03:57,417 --> 00:04:01,577 Speaker 1: of Hispanics live in places that are not competitive California, Illinois, 70 00:04:01,697 --> 00:04:04,457 Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey. It makes it a little it 71 00:04:04,497 --> 00:04:09,897 Speaker 1: makes their vote increase important, but less so than that. 72 00:04:10,057 --> 00:04:12,777 Speaker 1: And it would be with black voters if blackletters moving, 73 00:04:12,777 --> 00:04:16,177 Speaker 1: which they're not moving. Asian voters similarly, and local elections 74 00:04:16,337 --> 00:04:18,657 Speaker 1: have started moving Republican. I don't know if that will 75 00:04:18,657 --> 00:04:21,457 Speaker 1: carry to federal elections as different issues, but certainly on 76 00:04:21,537 --> 00:04:24,097 Speaker 1: crime a number of issues, Republican voters and I take 77 00:04:24,137 --> 00:04:26,817 Speaker 1: it back to New York City, Republican Asian voters move 78 00:04:26,857 --> 00:04:29,657 Speaker 1: fifty points right from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, 79 00:04:30,417 --> 00:04:33,857 Speaker 1: and especially in Chinatown, Brooklyn and Chinatown and Queens if 80 00:04:33,937 --> 00:04:37,257 Speaker 1: you look at the and if you look at twenty 81 00:04:37,297 --> 00:04:41,137 Speaker 1: twenty two, one of the places totally non competitive, no 82 00:04:41,257 --> 00:04:43,977 Speaker 1: functioning Republican party. A place Republicans grew a lot of 83 00:04:43,977 --> 00:04:48,057 Speaker 1: support was in Hawaii, of all places, very weak Republican 84 00:04:48,097 --> 00:04:50,737 Speaker 1: Party there, but the Asian vote did move right and 85 00:04:50,857 --> 00:04:54,577 Speaker 1: help Republicans elect three state legislators that they didn't have before. 86 00:04:55,177 --> 00:04:57,417 Speaker 1: But the biggest vote, where it matters, where the votes 87 00:04:57,457 --> 00:05:02,417 Speaker 1: matter go in large portions, are the non college educated wife. 88 00:05:02,497 --> 00:05:05,057 Speaker 1: Still in twenty twenty, people have a picture in their 89 00:05:05,097 --> 00:05:08,017 Speaker 1: head that the average Biden voters a college educated woman 90 00:05:08,137 --> 00:05:08,817 Speaker 1: or a black woman. 91 00:05:08,857 --> 00:05:10,617 Speaker 3: That is the portry the. 92 00:05:10,577 --> 00:05:14,057 Speaker 1: Media puts out there. The biggest demographic of Biden voters 93 00:05:14,057 --> 00:05:15,337 Speaker 1: were non college. 94 00:05:15,057 --> 00:05:17,057 Speaker 3: Educated white voters. Thirty two percent. 95 00:05:17,177 --> 00:05:20,017 Speaker 1: One of every three Biden voters was non college educated 96 00:05:20,017 --> 00:05:24,337 Speaker 1: white people. Overall, twenty six million Americans, About twenty percent 97 00:05:24,377 --> 00:05:27,417 Speaker 1: of that population supports building a border world. About thirty 98 00:05:27,457 --> 00:05:31,297 Speaker 1: percent supports banning abortion after twenty four weeks twenty weeks. 99 00:05:31,057 --> 00:05:31,417 Speaker 3: Something like that. 100 00:05:32,977 --> 00:05:36,377 Speaker 1: They have a number of conservative things. It's one in five, 101 00:05:36,897 --> 00:05:39,497 Speaker 1: it's one in five non college educated whites. Within one 102 00:05:39,497 --> 00:05:42,897 Speaker 1: of three voters is six percent of the Biden base 103 00:05:43,537 --> 00:05:45,937 Speaker 1: is movable, which is about six million voters. That is 104 00:05:45,977 --> 00:05:49,137 Speaker 1: substantial in an election where the elections in the last 105 00:05:49,137 --> 00:05:52,097 Speaker 1: two presidential cycles have been decided by under one hundred 106 00:05:52,097 --> 00:05:55,137 Speaker 1: thousand votes in swing states, and the biggest populations of 107 00:05:55,217 --> 00:05:58,417 Speaker 1: non college educated whites are the russ Belts, which is 108 00:05:58,497 --> 00:06:01,657 Speaker 1: up for grabs places like New Hampshire main SEC and 109 00:06:01,737 --> 00:06:05,097 Speaker 1: congressional and substantial portions in places still like North Carolina, 110 00:06:05,137 --> 00:06:07,737 Speaker 1: which is a large population of non college educated whites. 111 00:06:08,857 --> 00:06:10,777 Speaker 1: I would think that is one place they could focus 112 00:06:10,777 --> 00:06:13,617 Speaker 1: on substantially if there was an effort by. 113 00:06:13,497 --> 00:06:15,297 Speaker 3: The GOP to register those voters. 114 00:06:15,337 --> 00:06:18,017 Speaker 1: There's still over forty million non college educated whites we're 115 00:06:18,057 --> 00:06:20,897 Speaker 1: not interested to vote as of twenty sixteen May. Let's 116 00:06:20,897 --> 00:06:23,457 Speaker 1: say it's thirty five million today. It's a lot of people. 117 00:06:25,177 --> 00:06:27,417 Speaker 1: Those are the places that are the easiest for grabs 118 00:06:27,457 --> 00:06:30,497 Speaker 1: and the easy places Republicans can gain support because at 119 00:06:30,537 --> 00:06:33,577 Speaker 1: the same time they're losing support still among college educated 120 00:06:33,617 --> 00:06:37,897 Speaker 1: white voters and that vote is receding. Remember that when 121 00:06:37,977 --> 00:06:41,217 Speaker 1: people think of like the Bush years twenty five years ago, 122 00:06:41,897 --> 00:06:44,497 Speaker 1: and they think or twenty years ago, and they think 123 00:06:44,577 --> 00:06:47,737 Speaker 1: of an old voter in that time they're talking about 124 00:06:47,737 --> 00:06:51,857 Speaker 1: the Greatest generation. That generation has died out. The generations 125 00:06:51,897 --> 00:06:54,057 Speaker 1: replaced in as an old voter is the silence And 126 00:06:54,057 --> 00:06:57,097 Speaker 1: people think of the Silent Generation almost as intertwined with 127 00:06:57,577 --> 00:07:01,457 Speaker 1: the Greatest Generation, very close. But there's a great book 128 00:07:01,457 --> 00:07:04,057 Speaker 1: called Generations I had just read by Jeanette Twinge. 129 00:07:04,217 --> 00:07:04,657 Speaker 3: I think it is. 130 00:07:04,657 --> 00:07:07,137 Speaker 1: It's a very long book full of data, and the 131 00:07:07,337 --> 00:07:11,537 Speaker 1: Silent Generation are much more left wing than the Greatest 132 00:07:11,537 --> 00:07:14,857 Speaker 1: Generation were. Silent generation is the generation that did Stone Wall, 133 00:07:15,057 --> 00:07:16,897 Speaker 1: that were the hippie generation. They were the one who 134 00:07:16,897 --> 00:07:20,057 Speaker 1: went to Woodstock, not the baby boomers. The baby Boomers 135 00:07:20,497 --> 00:07:23,017 Speaker 1: adapted to their culture changes, but the people who led 136 00:07:23,217 --> 00:07:25,897 Speaker 1: the big changes culture than the sixties was the site 137 00:07:25,937 --> 00:07:30,977 Speaker 1: was Joe Biden generation, not you know, not our parents, 138 00:07:31,017 --> 00:07:34,057 Speaker 1: Boomer generation. They just grew up in it. And I 139 00:07:34,137 --> 00:07:37,097 Speaker 1: think that's important to realize. So you'll have an aging 140 00:07:37,137 --> 00:07:39,537 Speaker 1: off of the more conservative voters, and you have a 141 00:07:39,537 --> 00:07:43,137 Speaker 1: lot of more progressive voters and coming up through Generation 142 00:07:43,337 --> 00:07:47,737 Speaker 1: Z and you have and you have college educated whites 143 00:07:47,857 --> 00:07:50,177 Speaker 1: continuing to leave the GOP. So to make up for 144 00:07:50,217 --> 00:07:52,057 Speaker 1: that in the millions, you need to make up for 145 00:07:52,137 --> 00:07:54,417 Speaker 1: that the non college educated white vote is still the 146 00:07:54,537 --> 00:07:58,977 Speaker 1: largest voting demographic along with working class Hispanics. To get 147 00:08:00,177 --> 00:08:01,617 Speaker 1: I know it's a very long winded answer. 148 00:08:02,617 --> 00:08:05,297 Speaker 2: No, it's important data. I want to come back and 149 00:08:05,337 --> 00:08:11,177 Speaker 2: ask you how you think the Republican nominee, whoever he 150 00:08:11,257 --> 00:08:13,777 Speaker 2: ends up being, probably Trump, but whoever it ends up being, 151 00:08:14,497 --> 00:08:20,417 Speaker 2: can chip away at Biden's white, non college educated voter base. 152 00:08:20,497 --> 00:08:23,377 Speaker 2: But we'll talk because I think that's something that Trump 153 00:08:23,417 --> 00:08:25,697 Speaker 2: did in twenty sixteen clearly against Hillary. Right, So this 154 00:08:25,777 --> 00:08:29,377 Speaker 2: is a central battleground politically going to the next election. 155 00:08:29,377 --> 00:08:31,057 Speaker 2: We'll get into that in one second. But first up, 156 00:08:31,737 --> 00:08:33,137 Speaker 2: you know, there are some people that still think the 157 00:08:33,177 --> 00:08:35,817 Speaker 2: economy is gonna tank. At least the market's going to 158 00:08:35,897 --> 00:08:37,937 Speaker 2: tank in the months ahead and things could get ugly 159 00:08:37,937 --> 00:08:40,417 Speaker 2: out there. Plus with inflation where it is. How do 160 00:08:40,457 --> 00:08:42,937 Speaker 2: you protect your assets? What can you actually do to diversify? 161 00:08:43,497 --> 00:08:46,217 Speaker 2: You need to check out real gold and real silver. 162 00:08:46,377 --> 00:08:49,577 Speaker 2: Gold and silver can be protection for your portfolio. It's 163 00:08:49,617 --> 00:08:51,377 Speaker 2: a good hedge. It's something you want to have as 164 00:08:51,377 --> 00:08:54,577 Speaker 2: part of a diversification strategy. I have gold and silver 165 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:57,137 Speaker 2: here at home, and I get mine from the Oxford 166 00:08:57,177 --> 00:09:00,177 Speaker 2: Gold Group. Oxford Gold Group that's who you can go to. 167 00:09:00,217 --> 00:09:02,057 Speaker 2: It's who you can trust to help you set up 168 00:09:02,177 --> 00:09:04,257 Speaker 2: real gold and silver you can hold in your hand 169 00:09:04,337 --> 00:09:08,057 Speaker 2: that comes right to your door discreetly, and you'll be 170 00:09:08,097 --> 00:09:11,457 Speaker 2: able to actually keep possession of that yourself. Call the 171 00:09:11,457 --> 00:09:13,737 Speaker 2: Oxford Gold Group. It's who I use it, who I trust. 172 00:09:13,777 --> 00:09:15,337 Speaker 2: The call is free. The people on the other end 173 00:09:15,337 --> 00:09:18,217 Speaker 2: of the line are trustworthy and knowledgeable in this area 174 00:09:18,257 --> 00:09:22,097 Speaker 2: of precious metals. Eight three three seven zero seven gold 175 00:09:22,177 --> 00:09:26,217 Speaker 2: eight three three seven zero seven gold. That's eight three 176 00:09:26,257 --> 00:09:29,777 Speaker 2: to three seven zero seven gold. How does a Republican 177 00:09:31,297 --> 00:09:35,097 Speaker 2: get enough of the Biden white, non college educated vote 178 00:09:35,137 --> 00:09:36,977 Speaker 2: to beat Biden in the Key States? 179 00:09:38,137 --> 00:09:40,017 Speaker 1: I think well. I mean, there are certain things working 180 00:09:40,057 --> 00:09:42,297 Speaker 1: their advantage. The border is a disaster and people are 181 00:09:42,417 --> 00:09:45,537 Speaker 1: very well aware of that. Inflation is super high. I 182 00:09:45,577 --> 00:09:47,457 Speaker 1: read a CNN headline, although I did not read the 183 00:09:47,537 --> 00:09:52,177 Speaker 1: article admittedly, that average prices are up eight hundred dollars 184 00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:55,697 Speaker 1: from two years ago for the average household monthly items, 185 00:09:55,737 --> 00:09:57,297 Speaker 1: and that would be. 186 00:09:56,897 --> 00:09:57,977 Speaker 3: A very very big thing. 187 00:09:58,017 --> 00:10:00,897 Speaker 1: I spoke to a Biden voter who is someone I 188 00:10:00,977 --> 00:10:03,457 Speaker 1: know not super well, but she started bringing politics and 189 00:10:03,497 --> 00:10:05,097 Speaker 1: she said, I'll just deal with the mean tweets I'm 190 00:10:05,097 --> 00:10:08,977 Speaker 1: going to vote for Trump, non college educated, white working 191 00:10:09,017 --> 00:10:12,737 Speaker 1: class woman, single woman, even though she's pro choice and 192 00:10:12,737 --> 00:10:14,017 Speaker 1: all the rest of so the economy is working in 193 00:10:14,057 --> 00:10:16,977 Speaker 1: their favor for sure. I think a lynchpin for a 194 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:21,617 Speaker 1: lot of people who are working class that Republicans have 195 00:10:21,657 --> 00:10:23,737 Speaker 1: failed to address in a meaningful way is healthcare. 196 00:10:24,257 --> 00:10:26,577 Speaker 3: I think that there's a big, big, big loophole. 197 00:10:26,737 --> 00:10:30,457 Speaker 1: I don't really know the Republican health care plan of 198 00:10:30,537 --> 00:10:33,377 Speaker 1: any major candidate. I don't think that there is a 199 00:10:33,417 --> 00:10:36,537 Speaker 1: way that they have addressed that succinctly that people understand. 200 00:10:37,097 --> 00:10:40,257 Speaker 1: Using terms like free market, let the free market decide means, 201 00:10:40,617 --> 00:10:43,697 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes, will wing it. Things like 202 00:10:44,257 --> 00:10:50,337 Speaker 1: trying to bring up accessibility, prices and costs. 203 00:10:50,217 --> 00:10:52,097 Speaker 3: Are really where the major factors are. 204 00:10:52,137 --> 00:10:55,097 Speaker 1: So if we don't want an alternative of socialized medicine 205 00:10:55,177 --> 00:10:57,137 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of pitfalls to it, what are 206 00:10:57,217 --> 00:11:00,537 Speaker 1: we going to do to make healthcare more affordable and 207 00:11:00,817 --> 00:11:03,857 Speaker 1: a better option for people who you know they're living 208 00:11:03,857 --> 00:11:06,297 Speaker 1: paycheck by paycheck. I know from my personal health insurance 209 00:11:06,337 --> 00:11:09,457 Speaker 1: that I pay out of my company is like twelve 210 00:11:09,537 --> 00:11:12,217 Speaker 1: hundred a month. I don't really know a lot of 211 00:11:12,217 --> 00:11:13,737 Speaker 1: people who be able if they have a family of 212 00:11:13,737 --> 00:11:16,577 Speaker 1: four and the company doesn't pay for all of it. 213 00:11:16,577 --> 00:11:18,697 Speaker 1: It's in the thousands of months, and I don't know 214 00:11:18,737 --> 00:11:20,057 Speaker 1: a lot of people get sit there and do it. 215 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:24,017 Speaker 1: So are they either get Obamacare or crappy healthcare or 216 00:11:24,057 --> 00:11:26,337 Speaker 1: they just settle for no healthcare. So I think that's 217 00:11:26,377 --> 00:11:29,137 Speaker 1: a major, major focal point that the Republicans have failed 218 00:11:29,137 --> 00:11:32,217 Speaker 1: to address. And I think that it's a major it's 219 00:11:32,257 --> 00:11:34,297 Speaker 1: a major issue within the GOP if you. 220 00:11:34,297 --> 00:11:34,617 Speaker 3: Look at it. 221 00:11:35,057 --> 00:11:37,217 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm gonna have to jump in because otherwise you're 222 00:11:37,217 --> 00:11:40,137 Speaker 2: telling us brilliant stuff. I does anyone on the GP 223 00:11:40,257 --> 00:11:44,337 Speaker 2: side have a healthcare platform yet that they have articulated? 224 00:11:44,337 --> 00:11:46,257 Speaker 2: Does that? Even if you ask me right now, I 225 00:11:46,297 --> 00:11:47,937 Speaker 2: do this for a living, I'm not aware of it. 226 00:11:49,097 --> 00:11:50,697 Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never heard of one. 227 00:11:50,777 --> 00:11:55,257 Speaker 1: I mean, rallying against Obamacare was very effective when Obamacare 228 00:11:55,337 --> 00:11:57,817 Speaker 1: was new. It's kind of settled in when people when 229 00:11:57,857 --> 00:12:01,217 Speaker 1: Republicans give standard answers like the free market, that doesn't 230 00:12:01,257 --> 00:12:03,017 Speaker 1: mean anything to a lot of people, and it's a 231 00:12:03,137 --> 00:12:05,497 Speaker 1: very it's a scary idea is you're just not going 232 00:12:05,537 --> 00:12:08,457 Speaker 1: to have healthcare and then Eventually the corporations who you 233 00:12:08,537 --> 00:12:10,417 Speaker 1: kind of feel have like hurt you over the pass 234 00:12:10,457 --> 00:12:12,737 Speaker 1: with healthcare, are are going to strew you over again. 235 00:12:12,777 --> 00:12:15,137 Speaker 1: And I think that's why we're probably this is not 236 00:12:15,177 --> 00:12:17,777 Speaker 1: a prediction, but this is just like where the public 237 00:12:17,857 --> 00:12:19,657 Speaker 1: is going. They're going to get closer and closer towards 238 00:12:19,697 --> 00:12:24,177 Speaker 1: a socialized healthcare thing at least or probably emergency care. 239 00:12:25,017 --> 00:12:25,577 Speaker 3: You know. JD. 240 00:12:25,737 --> 00:12:28,417 Speaker 1: Mann's is out there as a Republican and he's talking 241 00:12:28,457 --> 00:12:33,057 Speaker 1: about trying to make at least healthcare for baby deliveries free. 242 00:12:33,257 --> 00:12:34,497 Speaker 1: I just think that this is going to be the 243 00:12:34,577 --> 00:12:38,537 Speaker 1: natural movement of most voters over time, and I think 244 00:12:38,537 --> 00:12:42,617 Speaker 1: that this is a major hiccup. But I said before. 245 00:12:42,377 --> 00:12:45,297 Speaker 2: About to ask you a question, how do we make healthcare? 246 00:12:45,337 --> 00:12:47,737 Speaker 2: I mean, because I agree that's been the trajectory. How 247 00:12:47,777 --> 00:12:49,817 Speaker 2: do we handle making health care free when we're setting 248 00:12:49,897 --> 00:12:52,417 Speaker 2: up refugee camps for illegals in New York City and 249 00:12:52,457 --> 00:12:53,497 Speaker 2: other places? You know what I mean? 250 00:12:53,577 --> 00:12:55,617 Speaker 3: How are you? Yeah, that's a great question. 251 00:12:55,897 --> 00:13:00,097 Speaker 1: You can't I mean now without bankrupting the system, and 252 00:13:00,257 --> 00:13:03,057 Speaker 1: these cities and states are already going bankrupt. There was 253 00:13:03,097 --> 00:13:05,057 Speaker 1: a great article, by the way, I totally sided in 254 00:13:05,097 --> 00:13:07,697 Speaker 1: the City, which is a good publication at New York City, 255 00:13:07,817 --> 00:13:10,497 Speaker 1: but it's a total left wing everyone's a liberal. And 256 00:13:10,617 --> 00:13:13,177 Speaker 1: their article was like, because they have the city council 257 00:13:13,177 --> 00:13:15,457 Speaker 1: elections this year in New York and they said city 258 00:13:15,457 --> 00:13:17,457 Speaker 1: council candid sound more and more. 259 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:19,377 Speaker 3: Like Republicans on immigration and migrants. 260 00:13:19,617 --> 00:13:21,657 Speaker 1: So it was just very very well, how you know, 261 00:13:21,697 --> 00:13:24,177 Speaker 1: when it's happening in their backyard, all of a sudden, 262 00:13:24,257 --> 00:13:27,697 Speaker 1: everyone is, you know, Joe Rpio, not really that much, 263 00:13:28,017 --> 00:13:29,777 Speaker 1: not that extent, but they're definitely. 264 00:13:29,497 --> 00:13:31,177 Speaker 3: More hawkish on immigration than they were. 265 00:13:32,177 --> 00:13:34,457 Speaker 1: But yeah, you can, I mean everyone acknowledges you can't 266 00:13:34,457 --> 00:13:37,577 Speaker 1: have a welfare system and have open borders. Joe Biden famously, 267 00:13:37,577 --> 00:13:41,057 Speaker 1: which I don't know why Republicans did not pounce on 268 00:13:41,337 --> 00:13:44,617 Speaker 1: greater in twenty twenty set there instead, he wanted free 269 00:13:44,697 --> 00:13:48,257 Speaker 1: healthcare for illegal Alians. I mean, that's the magnet bringing 270 00:13:48,297 --> 00:13:50,697 Speaker 1: them all over. I don't you know if you can 271 00:13:50,777 --> 00:13:56,577 Speaker 1: have an economic argument on migration issues. The reason that 272 00:13:56,817 --> 00:13:59,097 Speaker 1: part of a big part of the reason we don't 273 00:13:59,137 --> 00:14:03,257 Speaker 1: have affordable housing in this country is because everybody wants 274 00:14:03,257 --> 00:14:05,457 Speaker 1: to live in the same twenty five metropolitan areas No 275 00:14:05,457 --> 00:14:07,257 Speaker 1: one wants to live in the Nevada Desert just they 276 00:14:07,257 --> 00:14:08,857 Speaker 1: don't want to. They don't want to live in Wyoming, 277 00:14:09,017 --> 00:14:11,177 Speaker 1: they don't want to live in northern New Hampshire. They 278 00:14:11,177 --> 00:14:13,177 Speaker 1: want to live in the same twenty five metro areas 279 00:14:13,177 --> 00:14:15,417 Speaker 1: that everybody else wants to live in. And even though 280 00:14:15,417 --> 00:14:18,337 Speaker 1: we're building over a million homes a year, when you 281 00:14:18,417 --> 00:14:21,497 Speaker 1: take in one point two one point three million people legally, 282 00:14:21,937 --> 00:14:23,617 Speaker 1: and then you have a bunch of eighteen year olds 283 00:14:23,617 --> 00:14:26,537 Speaker 1: turning eighteen wanting to buy homes and people living longer, 284 00:14:26,857 --> 00:14:30,217 Speaker 1: it creates an immense crush when it comes to housing. 285 00:14:31,177 --> 00:14:34,097 Speaker 3: Migration is a big part of that. Healthcare is a 286 00:14:34,097 --> 00:14:34,697 Speaker 3: big part of that. 287 00:14:35,017 --> 00:14:39,017 Speaker 1: I think that there is an economic argument towards migration 288 00:14:39,417 --> 00:14:42,897 Speaker 1: that people are not bringing up that could definitely sway 289 00:14:42,937 --> 00:14:45,497 Speaker 1: over some working class people, especially as more and more 290 00:14:45,537 --> 00:14:48,337 Speaker 1: of them are seeing these migrant cities, migrants, you know, 291 00:14:49,297 --> 00:14:52,897 Speaker 1: crunching the numbers. In augustuns Massachusetts declared state of emergency 292 00:14:53,097 --> 00:14:56,017 Speaker 1: over migration, and they're only spending fifty million dollars I 293 00:14:56,057 --> 00:14:58,337 Speaker 1: think a month. Right now, New York City is spending 294 00:14:58,497 --> 00:15:01,137 Speaker 1: twelve billion in the next two years. One in ten 295 00:15:01,217 --> 00:15:03,817 Speaker 1: dollars is going to migrants in New York City's budget. 296 00:15:04,897 --> 00:15:07,217 Speaker 2: I just don't understand how anyone thinks this is sustainable. 297 00:15:07,257 --> 00:15:10,657 Speaker 2: But it also it also will they're going to call 298 00:15:10,657 --> 00:15:12,897 Speaker 2: for federal bailouts. They already are calling for federal bailouts, 299 00:15:12,937 --> 00:15:15,057 Speaker 2: which I think is fascinating because it means the usual 300 00:15:15,097 --> 00:15:16,577 Speaker 2: thing that I get when I talk about this issue, 301 00:15:16,657 --> 00:15:18,897 Speaker 2: Ryan is people who live in Nebraska are like, whatever 302 00:15:18,977 --> 00:15:21,857 Speaker 2: sucks for New York. Well, actually, what they're hoping to 303 00:15:21,857 --> 00:15:24,617 Speaker 2: do is to bail out New York with the tax 304 00:15:24,657 --> 00:15:27,497 Speaker 2: dollars that people everywhere across the country right, or at 305 00:15:27,537 --> 00:15:30,697 Speaker 2: least to run off the debt even more. But this 306 00:15:30,817 --> 00:15:33,937 Speaker 2: storyline for so many years was illegals do the jobs 307 00:15:34,017 --> 00:15:37,617 Speaker 2: Americans won't do. You know, you get some Cato Institute 308 00:15:37,657 --> 00:15:40,857 Speaker 2: flax who will say, oh, illegals, all they do is 309 00:15:40,897 --> 00:15:44,057 Speaker 2: contribute to the economy. We need them or Social Security 310 00:15:44,097 --> 00:15:46,377 Speaker 2: is going to fall apart, and someone us are sitting 311 00:15:46,377 --> 00:15:48,937 Speaker 2: here saying, first of all, they're coming to the country illegally. 312 00:15:48,977 --> 00:15:51,337 Speaker 2: Second of all, they're lying to border patrol about why 313 00:15:51,377 --> 00:15:56,017 Speaker 2: they're coming. They're scamming the system. They overwhelmingly don't speak English, 314 00:15:56,097 --> 00:15:59,017 Speaker 2: They are semi literate at best in any language. They 315 00:15:59,057 --> 00:16:01,377 Speaker 2: have no discernible skills, they have no background checks that 316 00:16:01,417 --> 00:16:03,337 Speaker 2: have been run, and they're going to be able to 317 00:16:03,377 --> 00:16:06,217 Speaker 2: compete and be a net contributor in an increasing the 318 00:16:06,257 --> 00:16:08,137 Speaker 2: information based economy. 319 00:16:08,657 --> 00:16:12,937 Speaker 1: In an economy that is happily mechanizing low skilled jobs, 320 00:16:13,577 --> 00:16:17,057 Speaker 1: and it kind of is rapidly. We've gone to McDonald's recently, 321 00:16:17,057 --> 00:16:19,697 Speaker 1: I mean maybe you probably haven't, but they're all robots. 322 00:16:20,257 --> 00:16:21,977 Speaker 3: I mean, and a lot of McDonald's. 323 00:16:22,057 --> 00:16:24,337 Speaker 1: There are robots taking your order, and there are robots 324 00:16:24,377 --> 00:16:28,097 Speaker 1: serving you food, and there are robots. Growing up, you 325 00:16:28,137 --> 00:16:29,897 Speaker 1: wanted to go from New York to New Jersey, you 326 00:16:29,937 --> 00:16:31,177 Speaker 1: had to sit and wait and line to throw a 327 00:16:31,257 --> 00:16:33,497 Speaker 1: quarter or give a dollar to a lady in a booth. 328 00:16:33,577 --> 00:16:35,897 Speaker 1: There's no more ladies in a booth. It's all robots. 329 00:16:35,897 --> 00:16:40,417 Speaker 1: We are mechanizing low skilled jobs across this country. So 330 00:16:40,537 --> 00:16:43,457 Speaker 1: how do you have a twenty first century economy with 331 00:16:43,537 --> 00:16:47,177 Speaker 1: a twentieth century labor force? No one, there's a way 332 00:16:47,217 --> 00:16:50,497 Speaker 1: to articulate that in a profound way. There are brilliant 333 00:16:50,497 --> 00:16:52,737 Speaker 1: immigrants that come to this country. There are scientists, there 334 00:16:52,737 --> 00:16:55,537 Speaker 1: are data researchers. There maybe is the next Albert Einstein 335 00:16:55,617 --> 00:16:59,417 Speaker 1: sitting somewhere in some place, but the overwhelming number aren't. 336 00:16:59,897 --> 00:17:03,657 Speaker 3: And it's so my favorite like stupid libertarian argument. 337 00:17:03,377 --> 00:17:07,017 Speaker 1: Is like, oh, you know x amount of billionaires have 338 00:17:07,137 --> 00:17:09,977 Speaker 1: come to people who made billion dollar companies have come 339 00:17:10,177 --> 00:17:13,057 Speaker 1: from as immigrants. If you ever look at the countries 340 00:17:13,097 --> 00:17:17,217 Speaker 1: they come from, it's like eighty five percent Western Europe, Israel, 341 00:17:17,377 --> 00:17:22,097 Speaker 1: East Asia, and Australia or Canada. Like it doesn't match 342 00:17:22,177 --> 00:17:26,537 Speaker 1: our immigration populations at all, Like the like there's four 343 00:17:27,017 --> 00:17:30,897 Speaker 1: from Africa and one is Elon musk so like there's 344 00:17:31,057 --> 00:17:34,457 Speaker 1: almost none from like Central America or South America, So 345 00:17:34,817 --> 00:17:37,697 Speaker 1: we don't have where our immigration policy is a twentieth 346 00:17:37,697 --> 00:17:40,257 Speaker 1: century immigration policy for a twenty first century county. It 347 00:17:40,337 --> 00:17:45,377 Speaker 1: doesn't match up at all, and it causes other economic problems, 348 00:17:45,497 --> 00:17:50,097 Speaker 1: partially in healthcare, partially in education costs, partially. 349 00:17:49,737 --> 00:17:50,697 Speaker 3: In housing costs. 350 00:17:51,057 --> 00:17:55,377 Speaker 1: Those are real working class even concerns for younger people 351 00:17:55,817 --> 00:17:57,737 Speaker 1: that you have to seriously sit there and address, and 352 00:17:57,737 --> 00:17:59,537 Speaker 1: maybe Seale don't want to hear. Maybe they're like, no, 353 00:17:59,817 --> 00:18:01,817 Speaker 1: you know, this is against my ideas. And America's the 354 00:18:01,857 --> 00:18:04,417 Speaker 1: nation immigrants, and they've been fed certain lines for so 355 00:18:04,457 --> 00:18:07,777 Speaker 1: long they believe them. But there isn't a population where 356 00:18:07,777 --> 00:18:10,537 Speaker 1: you're not scapegoating immigrants. You're not staying there and saying 357 00:18:10,777 --> 00:18:13,657 Speaker 1: these people are the problem. You're saying if you continue 358 00:18:13,697 --> 00:18:16,377 Speaker 1: the way that you are. Had we kept the immigration 359 00:18:16,457 --> 00:18:18,977 Speaker 1: numbers of nineteen ninety nine, which were six hundred and 360 00:18:19,017 --> 00:18:21,417 Speaker 1: fifty thousand a year, it's not a small number. We 361 00:18:21,497 --> 00:18:25,017 Speaker 1: would have had twenty five million fewer people in America today. 362 00:18:25,457 --> 00:18:28,257 Speaker 1: Twenty five million fewer people is a probably a net 363 00:18:28,337 --> 00:18:31,577 Speaker 1: of eight million empty homes today. Eight million empty homes 364 00:18:31,617 --> 00:18:34,937 Speaker 1: would have reduced to overall prices by probably ten percent, 365 00:18:35,137 --> 00:18:38,777 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be such a huge home crunch right now. 366 00:18:39,017 --> 00:18:41,737 Speaker 1: In many places, and not just hotspots like Miami, people 367 00:18:41,777 --> 00:18:45,177 Speaker 1: can't afford homes and you know, Pennsylvania, people can't afford 368 00:18:45,217 --> 00:18:46,137 Speaker 1: homes in a lot of parts. 369 00:18:45,977 --> 00:18:46,577 Speaker 3: Of this country. 370 00:18:46,857 --> 00:18:49,337 Speaker 1: So I think that that's a very interesting point in 371 00:18:49,377 --> 00:18:51,017 Speaker 1: one I would like to sit there and hear from 372 00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:54,977 Speaker 1: and I like to sit there and hear from people from. 373 00:18:55,137 --> 00:18:58,817 Speaker 3: About like what's real, what's real needs? 374 00:18:58,857 --> 00:19:01,737 Speaker 1: In the article I wrote from The American Conservative, the 375 00:19:01,857 --> 00:19:04,417 Speaker 1: number one issue people talk about is the economy. Number 376 00:19:04,457 --> 00:19:07,857 Speaker 1: two is inflation and then number like four is immigration. 377 00:19:07,977 --> 00:19:10,417 Speaker 1: There's a way to tie this up and connect these 378 00:19:10,457 --> 00:19:15,857 Speaker 1: things while addressing the biggest concerns of housing costs, healthcare costs, 379 00:19:15,937 --> 00:19:18,217 Speaker 1: and economic job growth. 380 00:19:19,657 --> 00:19:24,137 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about, uh, this RFK phenomenon 381 00:19:24,177 --> 00:19:28,657 Speaker 2: to agree that it is a phenomenon and whether yeah, right, right, 382 00:19:28,657 --> 00:19:31,537 Speaker 2: Well we'll talk about this in just a second. Because 383 00:19:32,097 --> 00:19:34,937 Speaker 2: the only people I ever hear talking about RFK are 384 00:19:35,017 --> 00:19:38,217 Speaker 2: Trump voting Republicans. That's that's just my experience. The only 385 00:19:38,257 --> 00:19:41,777 Speaker 2: people I've ever heard bring him up anywhere on TV 386 00:19:41,857 --> 00:19:44,457 Speaker 2: anywhere else pretty much is and might I say, bring 387 00:19:44,497 --> 00:19:47,137 Speaker 2: him up like talk about him as a serious political force. 388 00:19:47,177 --> 00:19:49,697 Speaker 2: You know, people will cover him in the news. But 389 00:19:50,137 --> 00:19:53,457 Speaker 2: we're gonna and yeah, we're going to get to this 390 00:19:53,497 --> 00:19:56,337 Speaker 2: in one second. The artificial intelligence gold rush could soon 391 00:19:56,417 --> 00:20:01,897 Speaker 2: be creating wealth for ambitious individual ambitious individuals understanding this technology. Well, 392 00:20:02,057 --> 00:20:04,857 Speaker 2: everyone is focusing on chat GPT and AI stocks. Like 393 00:20:04,897 --> 00:20:07,217 Speaker 2: in video, something incredible is happening less than two miles 394 00:20:07,257 --> 00:20:09,897 Speaker 2: from chat GPT's headquarters. For the past few months, and 395 00:20:10,177 --> 00:20:12,057 Speaker 2: hears from Google and Microsoft have been working on a 396 00:20:12,057 --> 00:20:15,497 Speaker 2: little known crypto project that could revolutionize the AI industry. 397 00:20:15,737 --> 00:20:17,377 Speaker 2: You have a chance to get on the ground floor 398 00:20:17,417 --> 00:20:19,617 Speaker 2: for this of this project, you could turn one thousand 399 00:20:19,617 --> 00:20:23,097 Speaker 2: dollars into a serious nest egg. All this information comes 400 00:20:23,097 --> 00:20:25,337 Speaker 2: from Tika Twari, the man who picked the top crypto 401 00:20:25,417 --> 00:20:28,257 Speaker 2: six years in a row, to ai coin twenty twenty 402 00:20:28,257 --> 00:20:30,217 Speaker 2: three dot com to sign up for this free event. 403 00:20:30,497 --> 00:20:35,137 Speaker 2: That's ai Coin twenty twenty three dot com paid for 404 00:20:35,337 --> 00:20:42,137 Speaker 2: by Palm Beach Research Group RFK Junior. Gavin Newsom is 405 00:20:42,137 --> 00:20:43,897 Speaker 2: going to take over for Biden? Where does all this 406 00:20:43,897 --> 00:20:45,777 Speaker 2: stuff sayd I want to pull my hair out because 407 00:20:45,817 --> 00:20:47,537 Speaker 2: I get people that not only do they think that's 408 00:20:47,537 --> 00:20:50,577 Speaker 2: going to happen, they think I'm I'm silly for not 409 00:20:50,617 --> 00:20:54,617 Speaker 2: recognizing that Joe Biden, I mean, it's almost twenty twenty, 410 00:20:54,657 --> 00:20:55,937 Speaker 2: like we're gonna be in twenty twenty four here in 411 00:20:55,977 --> 00:20:58,257 Speaker 2: the blink of an eye, is just going to allow 412 00:20:58,297 --> 00:21:00,217 Speaker 2: there to be a Democrat primary at the last minute. 413 00:21:00,257 --> 00:21:05,577 Speaker 1: Because also, I mean, it's it's not like there are 414 00:21:05,617 --> 00:21:08,097 Speaker 1: there's an old joke in politics that every elected official 415 00:21:08,137 --> 00:21:12,697 Speaker 1: from the dogcatcher to the governor's of being president if 416 00:21:12,937 --> 00:21:16,377 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was as vulnerable, there is no way in 417 00:21:16,417 --> 00:21:19,857 Speaker 1: this world that Pritzker the governor of Illinois, wouldn't seriously 418 00:21:19,897 --> 00:21:22,977 Speaker 1: be considting a run. Gretchen Whitmer, governor Michigan, wouldn't ben 419 00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:26,897 Speaker 1: seriously be considering a run. Jared Pole Is probably governor 420 00:21:26,897 --> 00:21:29,337 Speaker 1: of Colorado is probably be consciously said a run. Not 421 00:21:29,417 --> 00:21:32,017 Speaker 1: to mention like the Corey Bookers and the people who 422 00:21:32,137 --> 00:21:34,377 Speaker 1: just want to be president so badly who are more 423 00:21:34,417 --> 00:21:37,337 Speaker 1: of a joke also, and Bernie Sanders to appoint too, 424 00:21:38,377 --> 00:21:42,097 Speaker 1: They're all not There would be no plausible way that 425 00:21:42,177 --> 00:21:44,457 Speaker 1: they would all be sitting out of it and just 426 00:21:44,537 --> 00:21:47,857 Speaker 1: let Gavin Newsome habit because they all want to be president. 427 00:21:47,977 --> 00:21:50,857 Speaker 1: So it's not that I don't think Joe Biden is vulnerable. 428 00:21:50,897 --> 00:21:53,337 Speaker 1: I think he is vulnerable to a part to a point, 429 00:21:53,417 --> 00:21:56,217 Speaker 1: but if he drops out, it's going to be a 430 00:21:56,257 --> 00:22:00,737 Speaker 1: mad rush. And also Kamla. Like we it's America of 431 00:22:00,737 --> 00:22:03,777 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. We know how Democrats talk about race 432 00:22:03,777 --> 00:22:06,697 Speaker 1: and identity. There is no way that they are going 433 00:22:06,737 --> 00:22:09,617 Speaker 1: to just skip over the first half Asian, half black 434 00:22:10,057 --> 00:22:12,897 Speaker 1: email vice president to give it to a white, straight 435 00:22:12,977 --> 00:22:17,897 Speaker 1: guy from California. There's just it's just not it's not working. 436 00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:20,857 Speaker 1: I've never heard by the way, a Democrat ever talk 437 00:22:20,937 --> 00:22:22,857 Speaker 1: about Gaven Newsom ever, I've never heard. 438 00:22:23,137 --> 00:22:23,817 Speaker 3: I've heard them talk. 439 00:22:23,737 --> 00:22:26,257 Speaker 1: About their fantasy people, the people they love, even Poodha 440 00:22:26,337 --> 00:22:29,017 Speaker 1: Judge and people that Republicans roll their eyes at. I 441 00:22:29,097 --> 00:22:32,337 Speaker 1: have never in my life for one Democrat site. You know, 442 00:22:32,457 --> 00:22:34,577 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom me be a great, great president. 443 00:22:36,177 --> 00:22:38,337 Speaker 2: So what happens there? Like, do do you just think 444 00:22:38,337 --> 00:22:41,297 Speaker 2: that Biden becomes the guy going forward? And or that 445 00:22:41,417 --> 00:22:44,337 Speaker 2: rather stays the guy going forward? And all this talk 446 00:22:44,457 --> 00:22:46,177 Speaker 2: is just something that the pundits have because to me, 447 00:22:47,777 --> 00:22:50,657 Speaker 2: why would you give up the incumbency to allow there 448 00:22:50,697 --> 00:22:53,737 Speaker 2: to be some kind of a fight over this Three. 449 00:22:53,657 --> 00:22:56,457 Speaker 1: D chess hunters going to jail? Yaha, yah, a Merrick 450 00:22:56,537 --> 00:22:59,137 Speaker 1: Ireland's having. I mean, there's a lot of things that 451 00:22:59,137 --> 00:23:01,737 Speaker 1: that they talk about in relation to Hunter and Merrick 452 00:23:01,777 --> 00:23:04,897 Speaker 1: Garland's you know, special like a diamond hunter. Here's the 453 00:23:04,897 --> 00:23:09,017 Speaker 1: bigger question, would Shoe Biden be in a petter position 454 00:23:09,257 --> 00:23:13,777 Speaker 1: to help his as president or as not president? We 455 00:23:13,857 --> 00:23:16,977 Speaker 1: all know the answer is as president. So if I 456 00:23:17,217 --> 00:23:19,977 Speaker 1: like the if, the if the conspiracy theory about Toronto 457 00:23:20,057 --> 00:23:22,817 Speaker 1: the conspiracy, but if the opinion about Trump is he's 458 00:23:22,937 --> 00:23:26,017 Speaker 1: running for president, so he doesn't go to jail, And 459 00:23:26,057 --> 00:23:29,697 Speaker 1: there's an equal theory that Hunter should go to. 460 00:23:29,737 --> 00:23:31,537 Speaker 3: Jail in a just world, and maybe there's a lot 461 00:23:31,537 --> 00:23:32,137 Speaker 3: of merit to that. 462 00:23:32,897 --> 00:23:35,217 Speaker 1: Would Joe Biden be in a better posient or Joe 463 00:23:35,217 --> 00:23:37,457 Speaker 1: Biden we be forced to retire to Hunters going to jail, 464 00:23:37,977 --> 00:23:40,297 Speaker 1: would Joe be in a better position of his son 465 00:23:40,297 --> 00:23:42,977 Speaker 1: as president or not as president? The answers is president. 466 00:23:43,417 --> 00:23:47,777 Speaker 1: So it makes literally no sense in my in my calculation. 467 00:23:47,897 --> 00:23:50,017 Speaker 1: And once again you have I've said this to you 468 00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:53,497 Speaker 1: on the radio. I think you have to December like 469 00:23:53,777 --> 00:23:58,177 Speaker 1: fourteenth to qualify for the Democratic primaries. So I mean 470 00:23:58,297 --> 00:24:00,377 Speaker 1: we have a few months. Maybe they'd all rush in 471 00:24:00,417 --> 00:24:02,137 Speaker 1: the barn and Joe, I mean, Joe is probably one 472 00:24:02,177 --> 00:24:04,497 Speaker 1: hundred days to a side then and I want to retire. 473 00:24:04,577 --> 00:24:06,297 Speaker 3: I don't feel up to it, or you know whatever. 474 00:24:06,657 --> 00:24:09,937 Speaker 1: But you'd have one hundred days and after that point, 475 00:24:10,257 --> 00:24:14,857 Speaker 1: it's the feel will be who it is. And I 476 00:24:15,177 --> 00:24:18,457 Speaker 1: don't see how. I don't see how, you know how 477 00:24:18,497 --> 00:24:21,097 Speaker 1: it's going to Also, DNC would have to start doing 478 00:24:21,097 --> 00:24:23,097 Speaker 1: debates and stuff like that, which aren't even on the 479 00:24:23,137 --> 00:24:26,177 Speaker 1: schedule r And yet it would be very, very very difficult. 480 00:24:26,257 --> 00:24:28,897 Speaker 1: And the person of the highest name ID going in 481 00:24:28,897 --> 00:24:31,057 Speaker 1: in that short period time is Kamala Harris. 482 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,017 Speaker 3: Whether people think that she's a joke and I think 483 00:24:33,017 --> 00:24:33,417 Speaker 3: that she's a. 484 00:24:33,457 --> 00:24:37,817 Speaker 1: Joke as well, Democrats genuinely like her, and she has 485 00:24:37,857 --> 00:24:38,777 Speaker 1: the highest name landing. 486 00:24:40,217 --> 00:24:45,777 Speaker 2: So how do you think that all this prosecution of Trump' stuff? 487 00:24:45,777 --> 00:24:48,777 Speaker 2: Do we have any indications about what this does to 488 00:24:49,417 --> 00:24:52,257 Speaker 2: independent voters? Do they rally to Trump? Do they get 489 00:24:52,777 --> 00:24:54,617 Speaker 2: kind of pushed away from Trump? Do we have any 490 00:24:54,657 --> 00:24:55,377 Speaker 2: sense of this at all? 491 00:24:56,857 --> 00:25:00,017 Speaker 1: Do you honestly believe that there is a woman saying 492 00:25:00,057 --> 00:25:02,697 Speaker 1: in the suburbs of Atlanta who voted for Trump in 493 00:25:02,817 --> 00:25:04,977 Speaker 1: sixteen couldn't take him for all the mean tweets in 494 00:25:05,017 --> 00:25:07,057 Speaker 1: twenty and are going to look at this and say, 495 00:25:07,137 --> 00:25:09,177 Speaker 1: you now give him a second chance? 496 00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:14,777 Speaker 3: He has eighty and that's going on. I mean, and what. 497 00:25:14,697 --> 00:25:18,617 Speaker 1: Scenario does all of this pressure from the federal government 498 00:25:18,937 --> 00:25:20,377 Speaker 1: make Trump act in a. 499 00:25:20,297 --> 00:25:24,537 Speaker 3: Better light to those voters? I have a hard time 500 00:25:24,577 --> 00:25:24,977 Speaker 3: seeing it. 501 00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:28,097 Speaker 1: I think that you'll have a lot of people, You 502 00:25:28,137 --> 00:25:29,537 Speaker 1: may have a lot of people who are in the 503 00:25:29,577 --> 00:25:32,097 Speaker 1: lower tier of the ladder of the economic ladder who 504 00:25:32,097 --> 00:25:34,897 Speaker 1: feel like, damn, he is like me. You know, I 505 00:25:34,937 --> 00:25:37,537 Speaker 1: would not have I would get screwed to. Maybe there 506 00:25:37,577 --> 00:25:40,017 Speaker 1: is even some black voters or some Hispanic voters who 507 00:25:40,057 --> 00:25:41,457 Speaker 1: feel this way, that they have been on the wrong 508 00:25:41,497 --> 00:25:45,777 Speaker 1: side of the law and unfairly prosecuted. But I find 509 00:25:45,817 --> 00:25:47,297 Speaker 1: it to be a bit of a pripe pipe dream. 510 00:25:47,657 --> 00:25:51,057 Speaker 1: I imagine this doesn't help him substantially. And if you 511 00:25:51,097 --> 00:25:53,057 Speaker 1: look at all the polls that show a tight race 512 00:25:53,097 --> 00:25:56,577 Speaker 1: between Biden and Trump, the biggest thing to remember is 513 00:25:57,017 --> 00:25:59,817 Speaker 1: that both have one hundred percent aim I be there's 514 00:25:59,817 --> 00:26:02,217 Speaker 1: not a single person's country who doesn't know who Joe 515 00:26:02,257 --> 00:26:03,937 Speaker 1: Biden or Donald Trump bart are. And if they do, 516 00:26:04,017 --> 00:26:05,897 Speaker 1: I wish I was then because they are living a 517 00:26:06,017 --> 00:26:06,897 Speaker 1: very happy life. 518 00:26:07,017 --> 00:26:09,737 Speaker 3: But if you don't, everyone else knows who they are. 519 00:26:10,137 --> 00:26:12,337 Speaker 3: And they both are pulling generally. 520 00:26:12,017 --> 00:26:16,417 Speaker 1: Under forty five percent, which is if you're in campaign world, 521 00:26:16,457 --> 00:26:18,777 Speaker 1: if it incumbent's pulling under forty five percent, you're like, oh, 522 00:26:18,817 --> 00:26:21,657 Speaker 1: this is great because there's a lot of uncertainty with 523 00:26:21,777 --> 00:26:24,577 Speaker 1: the electorate. That's where the election is to side. And 524 00:26:24,617 --> 00:26:27,537 Speaker 1: this uncertainty who knows Biden, who knows Trump? They don't 525 00:26:27,657 --> 00:26:30,217 Speaker 1: like either one of them, which is probably between fifteen 526 00:26:30,217 --> 00:26:33,977 Speaker 1: and twenty percent of the country. And it's ultimately what 527 00:26:34,297 --> 00:26:36,897 Speaker 1: coin losses they flipped is that I trust Trump to 528 00:26:36,937 --> 00:26:39,417 Speaker 1: fix the economy. He was not that bad of a present. 529 00:26:39,497 --> 00:26:42,457 Speaker 1: Times were better, you know, four years ago? Or is 530 00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:46,577 Speaker 1: the people like Trump is an unserious person. He's deranged. 531 00:26:46,737 --> 00:26:51,057 Speaker 1: He's talking about things like January sixth again, and this 532 00:26:51,097 --> 00:26:53,017 Speaker 1: is not who I want representing me in the country. 533 00:26:53,257 --> 00:26:55,777 Speaker 1: That's really where the dividing line is. And also there'll 534 00:26:55,817 --> 00:26:58,537 Speaker 1: be two issues which will be I'm sure abortion is 535 00:26:58,537 --> 00:27:00,737 Speaker 1: going to be a huge issue and also the January 536 00:27:00,817 --> 00:27:05,177 Speaker 1: sixth stuff. So we'll see which play a heavier hand 537 00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:08,217 Speaker 1: and move people's minds. But that's really the biggest question 538 00:27:08,257 --> 00:27:10,697 Speaker 1: right now, because if it's Trump versus Biden, there will 539 00:27:10,737 --> 00:27:14,457 Speaker 1: be no voter who's learning new information. It's just a 540 00:27:14,497 --> 00:27:17,857 Speaker 1: matter of the people who like dislike them both. You know, 541 00:27:18,017 --> 00:27:20,497 Speaker 1: who do they show for. And it's also among the 542 00:27:20,577 --> 00:27:23,537 Speaker 1: base of whom I'm more inspired vote for. I think 543 00:27:23,577 --> 00:27:26,297 Speaker 1: Trump will probably win that battle as far as intensity goes, 544 00:27:27,497 --> 00:27:29,497 Speaker 1: but there'll be a lot of Republicans. Probably the New 545 00:27:29,577 --> 00:27:32,337 Speaker 1: York Times website at six percent of the Republican electorate 546 00:27:32,377 --> 00:27:34,937 Speaker 1: who said they would not vote for him and in general, 547 00:27:35,297 --> 00:27:38,017 Speaker 1: so there'll be a substantially the voting third party voting 548 00:27:38,057 --> 00:27:39,697 Speaker 1: for Biden, and who knows. 549 00:27:39,617 --> 00:27:42,537 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get into a twenty sixteenth. 550 00:27:42,817 --> 00:27:44,857 Speaker 1: Case where there'll be a third party candidate who eats 551 00:27:44,937 --> 00:27:47,337 Speaker 1: up three percent of the election and throws the election 552 00:27:47,377 --> 00:27:49,697 Speaker 1: either which way happened twice in the last twenty year 553 00:27:49,737 --> 00:27:51,897 Speaker 1: or so, it wouldn't be shocking if it happened. 554 00:27:51,697 --> 00:27:52,257 Speaker 3: A third time. 555 00:27:53,057 --> 00:27:56,977 Speaker 2: Ryan Goraduski, everybody subscribe to the National Populist newsletter on substack, 556 00:27:57,257 --> 00:28:00,097 Speaker 2: and he will be bringing you all these insights, and 557 00:28:00,137 --> 00:28:02,017 Speaker 2: you can also probably email him and yell at him 558 00:28:02,057 --> 00:28:05,457 Speaker 2: there for not being sufficiently supportive of Donald Trump as 559 00:28:05,457 --> 00:28:10,497 Speaker 2: the nut. Anyway, Ran, thank you very much right out. 560 00:28:10,497 --> 00:28:11,097 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 561 00:28:11,097 --> 00:28:11,897 Speaker 3: Sacking Bye,