WEBVTT - The Cycle: Rounding The Bases (Ep. 1006)

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>I am Ryan Warmley, joined as always but not last

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<v Speaker 3>week by Mike Mayor. I am back after my week

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<v Speaker 3>off Mayor. As you know, I was traveling first some

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<v Speaker 3>family stuff, so I appreciate you stepping into the host

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<v Speaker 3>chair for me, And of course we're bringing on Kelly

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<v Speaker 3>in my stead, who is way smarter about Fantasy Baseball

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<v Speaker 3>than I will ever be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I am happy to have you back because you're

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<v Speaker 5>a better host than I will ever be, So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure the audience will agree that they're happy to have

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<v Speaker 5>you back as a host, and they don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>hear me try my best anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say as I was just trying to be

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<v Speaker 3>deferential to Kelly, not trying. I genuinely believe she's very,

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<v Speaker 3>very smart. Obviously in the only league she and I

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<v Speaker 3>are in together, which is the Roto League, Dan Harris's league,

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<v Speaker 3>I currently am sitting on eighty two points. She is

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<v Speaker 3>currently sitting, I believe on the thirty six points.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor where are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, if you scrolling the bottle, you'll

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<v Speaker 5>see me. That team might be the worst team I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever had.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>And I look at the roster and I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 5>roster isn't bad. And I've already my hitting was so

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<v Speaker 5>bad that I had like pitching surplus, and I already

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<v Speaker 5>flipped a bunch of that pitching for hitting, and now

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<v Speaker 5>my hitting and pitching are both bad, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 5>it's unbelievably like I'm anxious about how bad that team is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty poor.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm making a good first impression my first year in

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<v Speaker 3>that league, and it's nice to see you sitting there

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<v Speaker 3>at the bottom. Yeah, we're gonna dive into the show

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<v Speaker 3>at some point. We're gonna do a little segment here

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<v Speaker 3>and round in the bases where and I like to

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<v Speaker 3>do this whenever I'm not only out, you know, missing

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<v Speaker 3>a week, but like truly i'm like pretty much off

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<v Speaker 3>the gride and not watching baseball for a few days.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to come back and have you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fill me in on what I missed over the last week.

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<v Speaker 3>I did attend a couple of baseball games in Baltimore

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<v Speaker 3>with my family, So those were the only games that

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<v Speaker 3>I watched pretty much in the last week while I

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<v Speaker 3>was while I was out and about. So we will

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<v Speaker 3>get into that a little bit later on in the segment.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna start off.

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<v Speaker 3>And round of the bases kind of just from some

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<v Speaker 3>more immediate news, which was yesterday as I was putting

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<v Speaker 3>this together, we had not one, but two very good

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<v Speaker 3>starting pitchers get hurt. I kind of labeled the segment

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<v Speaker 3>just more injured pitchers, because it feels like it's been

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<v Speaker 3>never ending for a lot of this season. Kind of

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<v Speaker 3>different circumstances for these two. Was Hunter Green, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>and Dylan He's pitched very well, and then he came

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<v Speaker 3>out and then I was seeing on Twitter, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, an apparent injury kind of after the

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<v Speaker 3>no hitter was broken up. I didn't see a follow

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<v Speaker 3>up to that. So if there is kind of additional

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<v Speaker 3>news about what exactly that was, Mary, you can fill

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<v Speaker 3>us in.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Green. It was a groin issue.

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<v Speaker 3>He left after three very strong innings on Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 3>and obviously Green is somebody we have talked about a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I planted a flag on him as being a great

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<v Speaker 3>value this year. He looked like the best call I made,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of Spring Trading was being very in on him.

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<v Speaker 3>You were still a little hesitant because of the injury concerned,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, a growing issue, maybe not the type of

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<v Speaker 3>injury you were thinking about. Let's start with Green because

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<v Speaker 3>I think kind of the more concerning given the way

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<v Speaker 3>he left the game and just how good he's been

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<v Speaker 3>so far this year, do you I mean, we just

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<v Speaker 3>saw Cole Reagan's have a groin issue and come back

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<v Speaker 3>and look very good against the White Sox. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like this is a death Noell. But what was

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<v Speaker 3>your kind of reaction watching what happened to Green?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, my first reaction was I just saw it come across.

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<v Speaker 5>He left with an injury, and I was like, oh God,

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<v Speaker 5>like this is what we were worried about. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's sitting there throwing a hundred and one hundred two

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<v Speaker 5>and it finally happened his arm off, and then you

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<v Speaker 5>kind of see that it's a groin injury and injury

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<v Speaker 5>and you're like, all right, well, at least it's not

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<v Speaker 5>his right arm. You know, they could be you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I would prefer like just cramps or something, but if

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<v Speaker 5>it has to be an injury, like you said, like

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<v Speaker 5>coul Reagan's just came back from a groin injury.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't sound like they're too concerned about it. He

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<v Speaker 6>was just.

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<v Speaker 5>Warming up and I guess he threw two warm up

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<v Speaker 5>pitches and was like basically just called out the trainers

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<v Speaker 5>and was like, I don't feel right. You know, he

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<v Speaker 5>felt a little tight on his first warm up throw,

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<v Speaker 5>which I saw someone say that, like his first warm

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<v Speaker 5>up throw was always like on the softer side, and

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<v Speaker 5>like the second warm up throw is when he like

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<v Speaker 5>starts throwing a little bit harder, and his second warm

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<v Speaker 5>up throw was also soft. And then I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>like when the catcher, one of the trainers, was like okay,

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<v Speaker 5>like something's wrong here, and he immediately like called him

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<v Speaker 5>out as we're recording this here today on Thursday. I

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<v Speaker 5>believe he's getting an MRI today to see if there's,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, what the extent of the damage is. He

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<v Speaker 5>said he wasn't really sure. He didn't have like injury

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<v Speaker 5>like this before. He didn't really know what to expect,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the manager turned Francona didn't expect bad news.

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<v Speaker 5>So it sounds like fingers crossed, but they're optimistic it's

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<v Speaker 5>not a major issue there.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, since we, you know, only record this show once

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<v Speaker 3>a week, we won't be able to be on top

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<v Speaker 3>of the twist and turns. Everybody should check out leading

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<v Speaker 3>off live every day, so hopefully they can be more

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<v Speaker 3>immediate with their reactions whenever we get kind of fallout

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<v Speaker 3>from whatever that MRI ends up showing. Hunter Green obviously

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<v Speaker 3>been you know, one of, if not the best pitcher

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball this season, so we will certainly be keeping

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<v Speaker 3>a very close eye on that. He's actually been a

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<v Speaker 3>real reason why I'm doing well in that league. We

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about where I'm in Darren Harris's league, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm certainly hoping, and I know everybody is, that he

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<v Speaker 3>ends up being okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Dylan Cees.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there a kind of a follow up to this

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<v Speaker 3>that you saw this morning that I missed in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of him leaving, Like I said, I know, it was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of listed as like an apparent injury. He did

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<v Speaker 3>pitch well and got deeper into the game than Green did.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there were two kind of follow ups, and one

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<v Speaker 5>very concerning and the other one not concerning at all.

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<v Speaker 5>So the first thing I saw come across was that

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<v Speaker 5>it was a forearm injury. And then you know, as

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<v Speaker 5>I always say, your forearm is connected to your Tommy

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<v Speaker 5>John and so that's not great. But then it turned

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<v Speaker 5>out to it was just cramps. So they're like, not

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<v Speaker 5>that worried, just a forearm cramp. Obviously you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>anything happening to that forearm. You're hoping that's not like

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<v Speaker 5>assigned by anything else. But if you have to leave

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<v Speaker 5>with an injury, cramps are the one that you want

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<v Speaker 5>to leave with because if it's just like a hydration

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<v Speaker 5>temporary issue, unless you have like chronic cramps, like that's

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<v Speaker 5>best case scenario. So it sounds like they're gonna play

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<v Speaker 5>it by year. Like the next couple of days, he

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<v Speaker 5>how a bullpen goes and like he should be fine.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe what do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Make of season in general, just while we're on the topic,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're if we're largely unconcerned about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>injury stuff. He hasn't been, you know, the type of

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<v Speaker 3>guy you were hoping you were drafting when you got him.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, this was you know, this or that early

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<v Speaker 3>start against Cleveland are pretty clearly his two best starts

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<v Speaker 3>of the season. Every other start has been between mediocre

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<v Speaker 3>to downright bad. You know, he's sitting here, is eras

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<v Speaker 3>four ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>One, his whips won forty one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's he's striking out, you know, more than

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<v Speaker 3>a batter and inning.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are still getting that which you knew you

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<v Speaker 2>were getting from him.

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<v Speaker 3>But nothing else really looks all that, you know, appealing

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of what we've actually seen. But he was

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<v Speaker 3>very good obviously against the Yankees in New York last

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<v Speaker 3>night prior to this cramp issue. So do you see

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<v Speaker 3>that as like a sign of a turnaround and he's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of getting it all back together. Are you largely

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<v Speaker 3>concerned long term from the on field performance perspective?

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<v Speaker 6>I think this is part of just the Dylan cease experience.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's just a roller coroaster and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>I wrote him up a couple of weeks ago as

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<v Speaker 5>a buy low, and I just think, like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have some ups, you're gonna have some downs, and when

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<v Speaker 5>the dust settles, you're gonna have a mid threes ZRA

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<v Speaker 5>and two undred plus strikeouts as long as it stays healthy.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I think that's what's gonna happen. Agin Even

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<v Speaker 5>right now is is Eri is sitting at four nine one,

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<v Speaker 5>not great, but all his expected his FIP is three

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<v Speaker 5>point three four. That's lower than last year's ra of

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<v Speaker 5>three point four to seven. X FIP three seven seven,

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<v Speaker 5>sierra three six five x e A four point zero two.

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<v Speaker 5>So all of those number expected numbers significally better. Like

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<v Speaker 5>you said, strikeout rate still pretty similar, whip obviously much

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<v Speaker 5>higher than you want it to be.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think or a long haul he should be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, coming off the you know, being off

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<v Speaker 3>for a week, you build up your your ad read ability,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I was practicing up in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the off season speak.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't really have that many to read, so I

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<v Speaker 5>was I was, you know, opening up the sheet expecting

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<v Speaker 5>a ton of promos.

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<v Speaker 6>I only had like one or two to do, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, this is cake.

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<v Speaker 3>Where must to do A lot Kisa Trex is an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting one because like two thirds of the read is

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<v Speaker 3>the disclaimer, so it's a lot too. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to read through, but we love Kaisa Treks. Here, let's

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<v Speaker 3>go to Trent Grisham, who, you know, kind of in

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<v Speaker 3>the way we often talk about these players. I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>in the outline, is Trank Grisham the best hitter in baseball?

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly that's not true, but he continues to be very

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<v Speaker 3>very good this year. And I thought it was really

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<v Speaker 3>notable because I, you know, I was looking through, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hit another home run last night. I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's been so good, he must be rostered pretty much everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>and every kind of gets it. He's fifty percent rostered

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<v Speaker 3>in CBS, under thirty percent in both ESPN and Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 3>His triple slash line is two ninety two three seventy

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<v Speaker 3>six six forty. That's an ops over one thousand. He

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<v Speaker 3>has ten home runs already this season, only nineteen strike

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<v Speaker 3>cuts on the season, and his stat cast is very

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<v Speaker 3>very red. You know, some of the kind of standouts

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<v Speaker 3>in there. His ex woba's ninety third percentiles, his expected slugging,

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<v Speaker 3>his ninety fourth percentile. He's in the eighties for exit velocity,

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<v Speaker 3>barrel rate, seventy eighth percentile hard hit rate. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>his chase rate is only you know, ninety three percentile,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's not chasing the balls with rates pretty low too. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just looked very, very good in all respects. He

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<v Speaker 3>already has more home runs than he did all of

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<v Speaker 3>last season the last two years. Is batting average is

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<v Speaker 3>blow the Mendoza line. So on the one hand, it

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<v Speaker 3>looks like a fluke, like, you know, it's not in

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<v Speaker 3>line Sorr on stack cast. It's only showing the last

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<v Speaker 3>two but yeah, I didn't have the previous seasons up too.

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<v Speaker 3>But the expected data is saying this looks legitimate at

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<v Speaker 3>least so far. So there could still be some noise

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<v Speaker 3>in there, but it doesn't look that fluky.

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<v Speaker 2>What we've seen to date.

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<v Speaker 3>So I ask you this, He's twenty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got the awesome ballpark he's playing in this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a legitimate breakout that you expect to see

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<v Speaker 3>continue on some level the rest of the way, or

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<v Speaker 3>are you still viewing this within the prism of it's

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<v Speaker 3>early and this is not the Trent Grisham we should

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<v Speaker 3>expect going forward.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's probably somewhere in the middle. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think we're going to see this level of Trent Grisham

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of the season. But I also think we're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to see the bad, you know version either.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's kind of settling in. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 5>the biggest factor here is that ballpark. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 5>pulling the ball for power, and if you can do

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<v Speaker 5>that even a little bit in Yankee Stadium, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have a million home runs. You wrote in the sheet,

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<v Speaker 5>is Trent Grisham the best hitter in baseball? I would

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<v Speaker 5>ask you a different question. Is Trent Grisham this year

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<v Speaker 5>who we were hoping Cody Bellinger was going to be?

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<v Speaker 5>Because this is what everyone was hoping the Cody Bellinger

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<v Speaker 5>season the Kastadium was gonna look like, and it looked

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<v Speaker 5>like it might be. Trent Grisham is the one taking

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<v Speaker 5>advantage of it. There was one stat that I thought

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<v Speaker 5>was funny when kind of like looking at this, so

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<v Speaker 5>he has ten home runs, do you know without looking

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<v Speaker 5>how many doubles he has?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't have that pulled up, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, one though, granted that's the worst ballpark four doubles,

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<v Speaker 5>or at least like a bottom five ballpark for doubles.

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<v Speaker 5>But even last year he had nine home runs and

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<v Speaker 5>eight doubles. So it's just kind of funny that, like

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<v Speaker 5>when he is hitting for power, he's not like putting

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<v Speaker 5>it in the gap, He's just putting it over that

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<v Speaker 5>red field fence.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think it's notable that not only is he

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<v Speaker 3>hitting the ball in the air more than he has

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<v Speaker 3>it any other year of his career, he's also pulling

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in the air more than any other year

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<v Speaker 3>in his career. His pull air percentage twenty five point

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<v Speaker 3>seven percent last year is the second highest at twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a pretty sizable jump year to.

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<v Speaker 2>Year from what was already career high last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So he is taking full advantage of the stadium that

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<v Speaker 3>he's in. I really liked that comp of what we

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<v Speaker 3>were hoping Bellinger would be. Yeah, I mean, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not saying, go get rid of everything you had to

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<v Speaker 3>go acquire Trent Grisham, but I think it's legitimate enough that,

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<v Speaker 3>like he certainly is better than we expected he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be before the start of the season. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean the other thing too, really and like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the biggest factor is the ballpark. The other

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<v Speaker 3>big factor is the strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can weigh in on I actually kind of forget,

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<v Speaker 3>like about how long strikeout rates. You feel like they

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<v Speaker 3>tend to normalize for hitters in a new season, But

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<v Speaker 3>every other year in his career it was in the twenties.

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<v Speaker 3>In the last three years it was twenty eight twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seven to twenty seven percent strikeout rate this year is

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<v Speaker 3>his career low. It's eighteen point eight percent. That is

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<v Speaker 3>a very very drastic drop. So he's just putting the

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<v Speaker 3>ball and play more and also taking advantage by pulling

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in the air when he's doing it. So

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<v Speaker 3>it all, you know, the highest barrel rate going along

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<v Speaker 3>with that. Like I said, so we're one hundred played

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<v Speaker 3>appearances in, it's not nothing, even though there's still a

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<v Speaker 3>long way to go.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, And I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would also say it's it's not just that he's not

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<v Speaker 5>striking out, because sometimes you'll see a player like drastically

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<v Speaker 5>cut down on their strikeout rate, and there are like

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<v Speaker 5>gibbs or takes in other areas, especially like you'll see

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<v Speaker 5>like a walk percentage will also drips substantially because they're

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<v Speaker 5>just like swinging earlier in the count and they're not

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they're not taking pitches, they're just making contact

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<v Speaker 5>again on base. His walk rate is staying the same,

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<v Speaker 5>like last year's ten point five percent, this year's ten

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<v Speaker 5>point nine percent, and in the past it's been in

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<v Speaker 5>that ten percent range except for twenty twenty three when

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<v Speaker 5>it was up to thirteen point five. But the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that he's still walking as much and has cut his

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<v Speaker 5>strikeout rate by ten percent is pretty intriguing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been sitting there available in one of our head

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<v Speaker 3>to head points leagues, Deep Keeper League, pretty much the

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<v Speaker 3>entire year, and I finally just picked him up last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't you know, I'm I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>on the show to say he should be rostered in

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<v Speaker 3>more leagues, So let me pick him up in the

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<v Speaker 3>lead where he's available. And I just think everybody's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of been waiting for the other shoot to drop, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm it will to a degree, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what that degree is going to be. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>ask about another player not on the same level of

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<v Speaker 3>Grisham is Jackson Holiday arriving. This is somebody that could

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<v Speaker 3>not have had more hype going into last season as

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who was so recently out of high school

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<v Speaker 3>and yet still the number one overall prospect in baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>He was going on to a team that had all

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<v Speaker 3>these great young talent. He was kind of that final

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<v Speaker 3>piece of this crown jewel of a farm system, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was awful. He was so unplayable that he got

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<v Speaker 3>like two weeks in the majors. They sent him back down.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a little bit better later in the year,

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<v Speaker 3>but still not this elite hitter. We've talked a lot

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<v Speaker 3>on the show about how top prospects are taking longer

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<v Speaker 3>than ever to really adjust to the gap between minor

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<v Speaker 3>league pitching and major league pitching. But Holiday has been

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<v Speaker 3>good as of late. They just moved him today out

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<v Speaker 3>of This is not a permanent move. I think they

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<v Speaker 3>were just kind of shaking things up because the whole

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<v Speaker 3>team has struggled. But today he was batting second in

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<v Speaker 3>the order. It's the first time they finally kind of

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<v Speaker 3>moved him up and said he's gotten comfortable, let's let's

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<v Speaker 3>stop putting him in that like six to eight range.

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<v Speaker 3>And the last eleven games they are playing right now,

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<v Speaker 3>So this is not including today, although I know he

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<v Speaker 3>did get on base at least once today already. But

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<v Speaker 3>the last eleven games before Thursday, he's bat eating three

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<v Speaker 3>eighty seven, four fifty seven on base five eighty one

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<v Speaker 3>selecon percentage. That is a ops over one thousand. He's

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<v Speaker 3>still not really running when he gets on His sprint

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<v Speaker 3>speed is eighty ninth percentile, so he certainly has a speed.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish he would steal more bases when he gets

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<v Speaker 3>on base, because I thought that was an area he

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<v Speaker 3>could contribute, you know, even when he was in the

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<v Speaker 3>minor leagues and I was looking at, like, what's he

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be when he gets up there. The other thing

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<v Speaker 3>I thought was interesting that I put in the sheet

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<v Speaker 3>is that his barrel rate and hard hit rate are

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<v Speaker 3>both actually down compared to last year. But like like

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<v Speaker 3>Trent Grisham, Jackson Holliday is striking out a lot less

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<v Speaker 3>than he was last year too, so he's still crazy young.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a position that's largely uninspiring, so getting a second

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<v Speaker 3>basement is appealing if he really is breaking out. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think from what we've seen from Jackson Hill that

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<v Speaker 3>he is taking that next step. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>call him a superstar yet. This isn't like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the leap in all capital letters, But is it a leap?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think you're seeing a young hitter adjusting

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<v Speaker 5>to life in the major leagues, which you know he's

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<v Speaker 5>going to have to do. If based on what you said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and what we saw for his like initial

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<v Speaker 5>you know, debut, it was bad as bad as it

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<v Speaker 5>could be, and so I think he's making you know,

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<v Speaker 5>proactive changes, you know, cutting down a strikeout rate in

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<v Speaker 5>a meaningful way if that means you know, for the

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<v Speaker 5>for the time being, you know, not swinging out of

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<v Speaker 5>your shoes, and you know that'll like you know kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like cut down on some of your swing speed

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<v Speaker 5>and your you know, potentially your bower rate and just

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<v Speaker 5>focusing more on like just like you know, let me

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<v Speaker 5>make as solid contact as I can and just like

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<v Speaker 5>let the bat do the work like until you kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like really like lock in and have that experience.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe that's what you need to do. And so obviously

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<v Speaker 5>over the last week and a half we're seeing some

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<v Speaker 5>really tangible changes there and it's it's the kind of

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<v Speaker 5>thing where you know, if how to put it, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just like this is what you want to see from

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<v Speaker 5>a young hitters, especially, like you don't want to see

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<v Speaker 5>like the same struggles and like you want to see

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<v Speaker 5>like changes. And so the fact that we're seeing, you know,

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.320
<v Speaker 5>cutting down a strike cut right, he's still walking. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not really as concerned about the running as you are,

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, hopefully it's just you know, you don't.

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 6>Want to think it's like the manager putting it on

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<v Speaker 6>the red light.

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<v Speaker 5>But like maybe it's just like, look, don't worry about

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.560
<v Speaker 5>like running and stealing bases, just like focus on your

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.760
<v Speaker 5>hitting for right now, Like we will steal bases eventually,

0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 5>but like, don't worry about that. And his his batting

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.400
<v Speaker 5>average now is two sixty three and it's expected bating

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.120
<v Speaker 5>average to sixty two, so it's right there.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of an earned.

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.840
<v Speaker 5>Batting average with like a league average babbit. And his

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:49.879
<v Speaker 5>swinging strike rate is way down to eight point one

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 5>percent from thirteen over thirteen percent last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have worried about the lack of running. Homarg

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 3>is confused, like there's something I expected. I thought, like

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.320
<v Speaker 3>he might struggle to contribute in power categories when he

0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.680
<v Speaker 3>first got to the big leagues as a twenty year old.

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 3>But I thought when he got on base, we would

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 3>see him running it, and I've just some kind of

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 3>surprised that he's not. But yeah, where would you rank

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<v Speaker 3>him amongst second basemen the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I said in the beginning of the season, I

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<v Speaker 5>think I'll put up my rankings while I'm talking, But

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<v Speaker 5>I like.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he somebody that you're comfortable with if he is

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<v Speaker 3>your starting second basement or would you still prefer he's

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<v Speaker 3>more of like your middle infielder.

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<v Speaker 6>I would prefer like a middle infielder right now.

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 5>Like I think he's going to be a better major

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 5>league player than he is for fantasy in the short term.

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 5>I think in the long term he will be good.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think we're probably like a year early, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think maybe starting next year is when you know

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 5>he'll probably be valuable in fantasy. I have him, I

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:48.399
<v Speaker 5>have him pretty love, so I still have to move

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 5>him up. I have an update of my rankings. I've

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 5>him outside the top thirty. I probably need to move

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 5>him up to like low twenties. I would say like,

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.639
<v Speaker 5>I'll move him ahead of Xander Bogart's at that spot

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 5>because you know, I think Xander Brogratz has a pretty

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 5>low ceiling at this point, so I'll move him up

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 5>to like twenty one, maybe like like nineteen head of

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 5>Chase my draft, who I like. But I think, you

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<v Speaker 5>know again, Holiday has a higher season.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't sit down and kind of like lay out

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<v Speaker 3>all my rankings. My initial thought was in the like

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<v Speaker 3>mid teens range. I think I'm still higher than you

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.719
<v Speaker 3>on what Because we have seen this before from these

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Oriols prospects. A lot of them struggled off the bat

0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 3>and then once they figured it out, they basically just

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 3>went nuclear.

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 2>So that's not a guarantee that will also happen with Holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, too, is a lot of it.

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 3>His fans have been complaining a lot about just the

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 3>approach from the team has been really poor, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>really want to see a shakeup on the coaching staff

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>right now. Holiday is the one guy who seems to

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 3>be making adjustments. His swing looks shorter, he's dropped a

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.880
<v Speaker 3>leg kick. I don't think it's any coincidence that he

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 3>has a dad who was an All Star hitter, for

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.639
<v Speaker 3>many years in the major league level, who takes a

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 3>very prevalent role in his career and can maybe help

0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 3>them find those adjustments that I think the coaching staff

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 3>is willing to do with some of the other players.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm pretty optimistic.

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not saying he's a top twelve second basement,

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.679
<v Speaker 3>but I'm pretty optimistic about Holiday going for the rest

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 3>of the way. The other one other thing I'll mention

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 3>on him, stat cast really hates his fielding. It's got

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 3>him like fifth percentile and range. That's extremely small sample

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.120
<v Speaker 3>size for a metric like that, but I just wanted

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 3>to point out that from the eye test watching him,

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 3>he looks night and day in the field. Compared to

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 3>the last year, he looks so much more comfortable at second.

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 3>He's made very strong plays on a number of occasions.

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 3>I think he is taking a step forward defensively, which

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.719
<v Speaker 3>you would hope would keep him in the lineup more often.

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Hyde, I hate spatting him against lefties.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really dumb.

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:40.439
<v Speaker 3>He needs to figure it out against lefties, and he's

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.360
<v Speaker 3>gotten hits against him before. I think he's fine, So

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 3>I really hope he Can three.

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 6>Of the last four games against lefties, has been on

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 6>the bench three last.

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Four, and it'll it'll be coming off like a multi

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 3>hit day, and it's like, just let the kid get

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 3>in rid of them. I mean, I've said this on

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.719
<v Speaker 3>a hundred times, like Brandon Hyde needs to get fired yesterday.

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 3>I think he's in over his head and I think

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 3>players like Jackson Holiday suffer because of his his machinations.

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go to the last second here on

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 3>round in the bases. And like I said at the

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 3>top of the show, there is something I just like

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 3>to do when I've been gone and not able to

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 3>watch really any baseball for several days.

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 2>What did I.

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Miss when I was out? And I will let you

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 3>teach me what it is that that I missed here?

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 3>So what was important? What are the headlines that I

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<v Speaker 3>need to know from the last week.

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Well you're never gonna believe this, but Mike Trot got hurt.

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 3>This I did see, And of course my immediate thought was,

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 3>how does Mayor feel about it?

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, as someone who are rosters them everywhere, because you know,

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 5>if you're going to take a risk, take a risk everywhere.

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 5>Is it one of those things where they said they

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 5>were not concerned about it, and then he went on

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 5>the IL and they're still saying they're not concerned about it.

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 5>But like I said last week when Kelly and I

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 5>were talking about it, seen this movie before, you know,

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 5>I've seen them not be concerned about Mike drout injuries,

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 5>and then I've seen him just not.

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 6>Play the rest of the season. So we'll see.

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 5>Hopefully he's back soon, hopefully for my sake and for

0:24:57.640 --> 0:24:59.439
<v Speaker 5>baseball sake, cause I think he's still a fun player.

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 5>Spencer Strider has been out for a while for the

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 5>hamstring injury.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 3>But let me ask you this quickly on Trout because

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 3>I know you guys have talked about him like when

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I was gone, and they've talked about leading off. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying we need to believe everything. I want

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 3>to ask you this, as somebody who has a lot

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>of him, when he comes back off the IL, will

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>you look to trade him then and say he's back?

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm going to try and sell high on

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 3>the momentum of coming off the IL and just get

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 3>something form while I can, or are you're gonna hold

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 3>on and say, you know, I don't think he's going

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 3>to get hurt again this year, and I'm kind of

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 3>riding this thing until the last possible second.

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to trade him right away. I'm going

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.679
<v Speaker 5>to hold him and see if I can, you know,

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 5>recoup my investment, if that makes sense. But I don't

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 5>think i'd be selling high enough. Not that I like

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 5>spent a lot of draft capital on him, because he

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 5>was going like ninth round around when I got him,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 5>or you know, like in the teens in you know,

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 5>salary cap auction leagues. But I don't think like he

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 5>has like a bunch of home runs, batting average is low,

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 5>and he already has that, like you know, he's becoming

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 5>fresh off an injury, and so I don't think anyone's

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 5>gonna want to pay the price that I would want

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 5>for Mike Trout because they think they're buying low. Like

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 5>here's you know, the guy batting below two hundred. He's

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 5>very injury prone coming off an injury. I don't think

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 5>it's the right time to sell him now. If he

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 5>comes off and he's like really hot for three weeks,

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:17.959
<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be tough for me because I'm gonna want

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 5>to sell high. But I'm also going to be like, look,

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 5>this is what I was hoping for, and I don't

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 5>want to give up on this, but I'm always gonna

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 5>have in the back of my mind like he's.

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 6>Gonna get hurt.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 5>So it might just be like league by league, depending

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 5>on what my roster looks like. But I wouldn't sell

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 5>him right away because I don't think you're going to

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 5>get any kind of value for your better offter just

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 5>holding on.

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, what else said?

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.199
<v Speaker 5>I Miss Spencer Stryder's been out for a while, you know,

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 5>pretty disappointing. He came back very early and then much

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 5>earlier than a lot of people anticipated, but then he

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 5>had a hamstering injury and he's been on the shelf.

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 5>But he and as of like last week, there were

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 5>like no plans for him to like start throwing. And

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 5>then finally yesterday Wednesday, he started throwing off a mound

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 5>and they were going to wait to see how he

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 5>felt today to determine next steps. But it sounds like

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 5>he could be beginning or rehab assignment, like hopefully soon,

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 5>so we could potentially be getting Spencer Strider back, which

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, again in that league, in that league we're

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 5>in where I'm really bad. I have Mike Drought and

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 5>Spencer Strider, so I would love to have both of

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 5>them back and Acuna too, right, I do have Acunya. Yeah,

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 5>I was hoping he'll be back by now too, or

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 5>at least like on a rehab assignment, but that's been slower.

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.959
<v Speaker 5>I took a lot of risks in that league, and

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 5>so far none of them have paid off. And I

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 5>have a bunch of other players like Price, Harper like not,

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, producing up to like certain expectations. So it's

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 5>even the players I do have are not really performing

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 5>as much as I would hope, or even Mookie Bets.

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of pitcher injuries, Joe Ryan missed a start, but

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 5>apparently it's just sick and should be able to make

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 5>his next start. You know, you don't love a picture

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 5>being sick enough to miss a start, but better that.

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 6>Than an injury.

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 5>So hopefully his strength comes back and he's feeling all

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 5>right for his next start. We talked a little bit

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 5>last week about Lucas Giolito, who, in his first start

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 5>in like over a year, looked really good.

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 6>I guess almost two years.

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 5>He he looked really good and flirted with like six

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 5>shutout innings until he kind of got squeezed at one

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 5>point and then he left like a change up, like

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 5>an O two change up over the middle of the plate,

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 5>got it for a home run. And then his second

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 5>start just really really bad. And so I'm gonna cough

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 5>but sorry, and so like there was some hope there,

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 5>like okay, like this guy might be someone worth picking up.

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 5>And second start not good at all, and so now

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm much less optimistic about Lucas gu little pretty concerned

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 5>and uh yeah, so I wrote in the sheet good good,

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 5>geal little bad Giulio. I was initially, you know, very intrigued,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 5>and now less so because it doesn't really have the

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 5>stuff that he used to have. But like you know,

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 5>I you know, he was like hiding the ball pretty

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 5>well and like getting some whiffs, and I was like,

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 5>all right, I can get down with this, but now,

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, not so good. Tony Gonsolin, on the on

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 5>the other hand, has come off you know, the ilt

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 5>and looked very good and pitching for the Dodgers that

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 5>need pitching and have like, you know, one of the best.

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 6>Offenses in baseball.

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 5>He's also striking out a ton of people, which is

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 5>not something he's always done, so that's very exciting. I

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 5>added him before he came back, and I've been very

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 5>fortunate to have him in my lineup, so that's that's good.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 5>And then I I paired two pictures together down here

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 5>at the bottom, A J. Smith Shov and then Matt Liberator,

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 5>who both might be breaking out, like they both you know,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 5>Smith jav Or flirted with a no hitter the other

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 5>night I took, you know, he gave up his first

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 5>hit in the eighth inning. Some of his suspective numbers

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<v Speaker 5>are like not that exciting. And then Matt Liberator has

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<v Speaker 5>been like solid all year and it's you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>would kind of you know, I know you haven't watched

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<v Speaker 5>them recently, but like kind of posed the question to you,

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<v Speaker 5>like do you think because Smith Jobber has been around

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<v Speaker 5>for little while, but he's still very young, and like,

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<v Speaker 5>do we think these are like pictures breaking out or

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<v Speaker 5>do we think this is kind of just like a

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<v Speaker 5>a good start and like they're going to come back

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<v Speaker 5>down to earth because they both have some decent prospect

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<v Speaker 5>pedigree and like haven't lived up to it initially, but

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<v Speaker 5>like maybe now they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Liberator, I think i'd be more. I have seen

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<v Speaker 3>what he's been doing more in this last week, especially

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<v Speaker 3>than smith Shover, so I feel less qualified. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see the no hitter, you know, carried into the

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<v Speaker 3>eighth inning for smith Shover, so I didn't watch that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of see if he was looking different or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But Liberator like forty one innings, thirty three hits, six walks,

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 3>his whips under one.

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<v Speaker 2>His era is three oh seven.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's got thirty eight strikeouts in those forty

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<v Speaker 3>one innings. I always liked him as a prospect too,

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<v Speaker 3>so it is kind of fun to see him put

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<v Speaker 3>it together. If that is, in fact, what is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I I what is smith Shov's age.

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<v Speaker 6>He's he is twenty two, twenty two, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, I was gonna guess twenty three. Yeah,

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 3>twenty two is so young that it would not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it shouldn't all surprise anybody if he is

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<v Speaker 3>getting better still, right, I mean he's still so young. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's he's led more people on than liber Tour. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the ear a three strikeout per inning, it's really mainly

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<v Speaker 3>for him the last three starts. I guess it is,

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<v Speaker 3>And there was that gap between the twelfth and the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ninth, so like these last two back to back

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 3>are kind of the two like standout ones from him. Combined,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like what thirteen in a third innings, five hits,

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<v Speaker 3>two runs, five walks, ten strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't feel super qualified.

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 3>To weigh and I'm like, oh, here's the reasons I

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 3>think he is breaking out or whatever, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely encouraging, especially at that age.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be really interested in.

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<v Speaker 3>Him anywhere I could have him, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just I'm looking a fan tracks right now, sixty six

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<v Speaker 3>percent rostered there. I would imagine that's a lower in

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>some of those other places, So pretty acquirable, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would be on board with hoping that this is him

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<v Speaker 3>taking the step forward. Do you have like one that

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<v Speaker 3>you think is more quote unquote legit than the.

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<v Speaker 5>Other, probably Liberator. I think i'd like smith Stava. I've

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<v Speaker 5>always liked Liberator. I think there are some concerning things

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<v Speaker 5>in smith Stava's profile, and you can see that in

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<v Speaker 5>some of the expected numbers, like his eras three. His

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<v Speaker 5>fit is three point nine eight, so like a battle

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 5>run higher his XCRA is five point three one, so

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<v Speaker 5>XCRA really doesn't buy into what he's doing, and that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of lines up more with the stackcast stuff, and

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 5>you can see like walk percentage, you know, is twenty

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<v Speaker 5>first percentile. He's allowing some hard contact like barrel rate

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 5>and hard hit percentage like twelfth and twenty first percentile.

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<v Speaker 5>So while there is some swing and myths, there's also

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<v Speaker 5>some hard contact there, and so that's probably what XCRA

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 5>doesn't like more than some of the other expected metrics.

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<v Speaker 5>So there is some smoke and mirrors to what we're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing there. Whereas I think Liberator, like you with someone

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<v Speaker 5>I've I've liked for a long time, I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>I've traded or traded him away or acquired him several

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<v Speaker 5>times in multiple times the leagues over the years, and

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 5>so excited to see that if he's he's finally putting

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<v Speaker 5>it together and a lot of his underlying numbers are

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 5>buying into what he's doing. Whereas like his era is

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<v Speaker 5>right around the same as three point zero seven, and

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<v Speaker 5>all of his fip X, FIP sierra at X zero

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 5>well fip X, FIP and xc RA A are all

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<v Speaker 5>below his current era, and the Sierra three point two

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<v Speaker 5>two is just above it, and so the expected numbers

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<v Speaker 5>are more so buying into what he's doing, which I

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<v Speaker 5>think also matches what we're seeing with our eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the crash course in what I missed the

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<v Speaker 3>last week. Mayor, thank you as always for that. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and wrap up ran in the bases there.

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<v Speaker 3>Be sure to check out the other parts of the cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have our buys and Cells and Waiver Central coming

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<v Speaker 3>up in part two, and then of course you've got

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<v Speaker 3>our picture breakdown, some streaming options, our two start picture competition,

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<v Speaker 3>all that in Part three four. Mayor, I'm Ryan warmly

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