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Speaker 3: Church will joint us shortly here. All right, gentlemen, free agency. Yes,
Speaker 3: they made some moves just today. So today at eleven
Speaker 3: thirty they start conference calls with Dante Fowler at ten
Speaker 3: half sacks last year, a receiver Paris Campbell, and running
Speaker 3: back Miles Sander. So just with those three they're going
Speaker 3: to talk to the media today. Man, how you feel
Speaker 3: just just staying with those three guys right here?
Speaker 4: Track, I'm liking it.
Speaker 2: I'm loving it. We brought and a double digit sacculator
Speaker 2: Paris Campbell had the pleasure of playing with him at
Speaker 2: the Colts and my time in ten years sitting there,
Speaker 2: that man was a professional even when he was young.
Speaker 2: So to know that he's coming in here, like I
Speaker 2: think he's going to be a great key component right
Speaker 2: now for a lot of We're filling a lot of
Speaker 2: holes right now that need to be filled, and I'm
Speaker 2: excited with these three signings. We said we need to
Speaker 2: make moves what moves have been made, so less pressure
Speaker 2: when it comes to our approach when it comes to
Speaker 2: the draft.
Speaker 5: Hey, you gotta forgive me because I only know about
Speaker 5: Campbell from a statistic standpoint, and so what we were
Speaker 5: talking about last week, and I was saying, look, the
Speaker 5: Cowboys need playmakers. And I understand you bringing in a
Speaker 5: guy that has has so he's long the two been
Speaker 5: in the league for a while, but a guy that
Speaker 5: can help them offensively. How much help can he give
Speaker 5: to this receiving course, what I'm asking myself, you know,
Speaker 5: what kind of impact can he make? We know for
Speaker 5: sure the Ceedee Lamb needs a running mate that I
Speaker 5: don't know if they found that yet, and if they're
Speaker 5: going into the draft to do that, they have a
Speaker 5: bunch of options. How early do they go for those options?
Speaker 5: Is what I'm asking myself. Dunte Fowler. We know we
Speaker 5: were getting out of Dante Fowler, but Dante Fowler was
Speaker 5: a rotational piece when he was here.
Speaker 6: Will he be a.
Speaker 2: Rotational piece here? Again?
Speaker 5: We need a starter because of Sam Williams coming off
Speaker 5: of his injury. We know what we got from Marshall
Speaker 5: Kneeland last season, so we need a guy that's going
Speaker 5: to be able to give, you know, to get the
Speaker 5: majority of the sacks be Does he still have that
Speaker 5: in him? And I think from a running back standpoint,
Speaker 5: you know, we talked about that obviously. We know the
Speaker 5: impact that the Williams is going to be able to
Speaker 5: have on third down and I'm excited about that.
Speaker 6: But let's just stay right there talking about Fouler.
Speaker 2: As far as as far as when it comes to Fouler,
Speaker 2: I like what I see in him and what he
Speaker 2: did last year. As far as when it comes to
Speaker 2: will he be a starter and will he be that
Speaker 2: big man guy. No, he's not going to be that
Speaker 2: big name guy. We know who it is. Michael Parson
Speaker 2: is a batman. He will be robbin. But with that
Speaker 2: being said, you cannot negate the fact of being a veterer,
Speaker 2: just us being who we are, like being a journey man,
Speaker 2: like that key component of you just coming in there,
Speaker 2: having that leadership, having the success and being a playoff
Speaker 2: caliber winning You've seen how I field over there. Then
Speaker 2: on top of that, you got your energy read like
Speaker 2: reduced and got a second win with you becoming double
Speaker 2: digits Sete. I think you can't pay for experience, and
Speaker 2: that's what he's going to bring and be that X
Speaker 2: factor in him. And then as far as back to
Speaker 2: Nord Brown, do I think he's going to come in
Speaker 2: and be.
Speaker 4: The big playmaker like that? No, he's not going to
Speaker 4: be the.
Speaker 2: Big playmaker like that. But what I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Paris you say Brown. I'm sorry I said Noel Brown
Speaker 2: because Paris Campbell, I think he can come in and
Speaker 2: be that Noah Brown for us. As far as being
Speaker 2: a dependable receiver and a guy on special team, is
Speaker 2: going to do that and be hard working and not
Speaker 2: demand the stars and just ready to work.
Speaker 3: So so stay on foul talking about the free agent
Speaker 3: signs Church good Year, former Laboy safety. So today they're
Speaker 3: going in the media that the Copper Toball with the
Speaker 3: Dante Fowler, Paris Campbell and Miles Sanders.
Speaker 2: So church music, church music, because I said, oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: Now that we got the church music, donate for the
Speaker 2: times for dinner. No, we'll talk about that later. Sore arms.
Speaker 5: Do not know when the bill come. When the bill come,
Speaker 5: everybody get like this t Rex. Yeah, go ahead, talk.
Speaker 2: Goo ahead. Man.
Speaker 3: What you got Dante Fowl ten and a half sacks
Speaker 3: last year, Washington and should I never left the building
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. But so when I look
Speaker 3: at what he brings to you, Yes, rotational pieces where
Speaker 3: you're going to get the best out of him. You
Speaker 3: no longer you no longer have Tank Lawrence in the building,
Speaker 3: but Tank to do anything for.
Speaker 6: You last year.
Speaker 3: So you've got Michael Parson's and we talk about.
Speaker 2: Did I just tell you lie no that he has not.
Speaker 5: Let's be really okay. I'm sorry I ended up what
Speaker 5: you were saying. You're you're leading up to the Dante Fowler.
Speaker 5: I apologize as the last toll.
Speaker 3: But so you talk about Nilan, you talk about Sam Williams,
Speaker 3: right Kneeland, Sam Williams, and you've got Fouler here last
Speaker 3: year we talked about the lack of depth. So when
Speaker 3: I see this, you're throwing somebodies at the position with
Speaker 3: an opportunity to still bring in more. But as of
Speaker 3: now March twentieth, they're a heck of a lot better
Speaker 3: than they were when the season ended at that position.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, having Fouler back of the buildings helped.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not hey, man, give me another ten and no,
Speaker 3: this guy comes up here and gives you six to seven.
Speaker 3: You take that. You're asking other Sam Williams suspend before
Speaker 3: he got hurt. Was I need my opportunity? I'm tired
Speaker 3: and not key go here you go And at some
Speaker 3: point in time, if you're about draft and developed, you
Speaker 3: need a draft and develop. You need kneeling, you need
Speaker 3: saying what come be these guys that we thought you
Speaker 3: were when we use day two picks on you.
Speaker 7: And if those guys pan out, we're talking about the
Speaker 7: Sam Williams and the Kneelings of the world. If those
Speaker 7: guys pan out, then I'm totally agree with you that
Speaker 7: they're better at that position than they were last year.
Speaker 7: The only thing that you know we've had time proof
Speaker 7: and consistency with is when guys go down with those
Speaker 7: knee injuries, those acls, when they come back that next year,
Speaker 7: it's not always a highly productive player or the player
Speaker 7: that we've seen previously. You know, check out Michael Gallup,
Speaker 7: you know, check out you know Treyvon Diggs in that situation.
Speaker 7: So if we're putting all our eggs on those rotational
Speaker 7: pieces to go out there and be productive, I'm not
Speaker 7: so sure that that's the right technique that they need
Speaker 7: to go for in this year.
Speaker 2: Being in former defensive line that I'm going to pick
Speaker 2: you back off of that, I'm going to count argue
Speaker 2: you as far as that, Yes, you might not have
Speaker 2: that production or have that same spring in your stuff,
Speaker 2: but you're not counting on all those pieces to be
Speaker 2: those guys. If one of those two pieces become those guys,
Speaker 2: then guess what, you're good because you got your horse
Speaker 2: and Michael Parson, and then after that you have Dante Fowler,
Speaker 2: who's a proven veteran that just came out of double
Speaker 2: digit side and playoff wins. We all know only three
Speaker 2: defensive ends play on most organizations. You might get four
Speaker 2: if you do special team, So you can use Sam
Speaker 2: as that fourth guy that potentially is working his way back,
Speaker 2: get comfortable and making those plays on special teams. And
Speaker 2: even if it's not him, you still have capital and
Speaker 2: room to draft right now because of all the flexibility
Speaker 2: of bringing in other people. So it's not as big
Speaker 2: of a knee, but there will be opportunity for all
Speaker 2: of them. So we'll see how it works. It doesn't
Speaker 2: always work like that. Most of the time, it takes
Speaker 2: you a year or at least half that year to
Speaker 2: get back to feeling like yourself, maybe even a full year.
Speaker 2: But now at least he has that opportunity and there
Speaker 2: are more pieces there. Like you said, you got better
Speaker 2: because Tang Lawrence was hurt last year and then even
Speaker 2: the year before that, did he really give you something
Speaker 2: like that? So with this Dante Fowler pick up, it
Speaker 2: is a great pick up in my opinion, Like you
Speaker 2: cannot cut him though slack. You cannot pay for experience
Speaker 2: and you not, and you can't pay for winning. He
Speaker 2: knows how it feels. He was in the playoffs last
Speaker 2: year and was a key rotational piece. He knows where
Speaker 2: he's coming in right now. Whatever I do is house money.
Speaker 2: If we get six or seven sacks.
Speaker 7: I love Dante one of my teammates in Jacksonville. But
Speaker 7: can he be that starting piece, the dependable piece on
Speaker 7: that outside. I love him as a rotational I love
Speaker 7: him as a guy, a third down specialist.
Speaker 6: We need a pass rush. But he is the guy
Speaker 6: when it comes to that.
Speaker 7: We've seen it when he was here in the past,
Speaker 7: the up top, the mental mistakes that Dante Fowler.
Speaker 2: But but you're older now you learn from those. So
Speaker 2: you missed it. You missed it. You came in, Oh.
Speaker 5: You know, no shots. So it was exactly what I
Speaker 5: was saying. It was like, Look, the ten and a
Speaker 5: half sacks is great. He's in a dan Quinn system
Speaker 5: that's gonna give you everything, everything that's in his wheel
Speaker 5: house to do. Hey, freestyle out there. If you want
Speaker 5: to put that thing inside, you could do it. You
Speaker 5: could go inside. You don't have to play discipline to
Speaker 5: the scheme. And so the only thing that my apprehension
Speaker 5: on him is how is ibra Flus's defense If this
Speaker 5: is alignment assignment edge, That's what I'm saying, Boom, And
Speaker 5: we saw so many times. We saw so many times
Speaker 5: when we come in here and we're like, what in
Speaker 5: the hell is Dante and he would freestyle on his
Speaker 5: own again, rotational piece, a guy that had ten and
Speaker 5: a half sacks. That's not an accident. That's because you're
Speaker 5: playing on the defense. That's mauling people and you're getting
Speaker 5: after him. And if we coach too, boom.
Speaker 2: He loved that. He loved playing in that. You love Decken, but.
Speaker 7: Lose you got it's so structured like you if you
Speaker 7: jump inside, Oh oh man, it's over with your defense.
Speaker 2: You're defensive guy, former player, Let me talk to the player.
Speaker 2: What system does dan Quinn run? He runs that? That
Speaker 2: that four three four three? Why what system does ebra
Speaker 2: Flus run four three four to three? Why? Same thing? Now,
Speaker 2: dan Quinn does give his playmakers the flexibility to play
Speaker 2: because guess what, he has veteran players that know the
Speaker 2: system and that comes with trust. But it is a
Speaker 2: penetration defense. You have to just get up the field
Speaker 2: and hold the edge or if you don't hold the edge,
Speaker 2: get up under.
Speaker 4: Both of them are the same scheme. Like, let's not
Speaker 4: think you said it was.
Speaker 7: He had those veterans on that second level, the Bobby Wagners,
Speaker 7: the Frankie lou Lous, who can who can?
Speaker 2: Who can?
Speaker 7: You know if you can erase those mistakes, if he
Speaker 7: jumps inside Bobby wags like, Okay, I got you who's on.
Speaker 2: The second level for the boys. Right now, you got Oversham.
Speaker 7: Who's a rookie. Unbelievable, he's going injury count on. You
Speaker 7: can't count that right Hendris, he's done, he's not in
Speaker 7: the building.
Speaker 2: You got Buddy Johnson.
Speaker 7: But he's the guys that aren't gonna they could develop
Speaker 7: into something that's going to be able to say, Okay,
Speaker 7: I know Fowler's gonna make a move right here, be
Speaker 7: a playmaker.
Speaker 6: Let me erase that.
Speaker 7: But right now I don't see them as being those guys.
Speaker 7: I can come in here and a Fowler, Burry.
Speaker 4: Murry's coming in. You're in the system, Murry's coming in.
Speaker 2: But I think also with being a veteran, you know
Speaker 2: how much of a lease you have in a rope
Speaker 2: that you have, And so he could have matured. That's
Speaker 2: why I said maturity. So do not count them out
Speaker 2: for those saying previous mistakes, because now that he knows
Speaker 2: he has to step up and be that guy for
Speaker 2: the defensive scheme, he might sit there and say I
Speaker 2: have to control the edge and teach the young linebackers like, hey,
Speaker 2: make sure you come do this because I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: that right there, so he might be more selfless.
Speaker 3: I will trust this coaching staff and Will McLay that
Speaker 3: they understand what the best version of Dante Fowler is,
Speaker 3: which is what they're trying to bring back, so I
Speaker 3: don't anticipate them saying and you go start. I'm still
Speaker 3: looking at Kneeling and Williams to be a starter alongside
Speaker 3: Parsons in that you're throwing bodies all together.
Speaker 2: On the other side, we got.
Speaker 3: Parsons here now between Kneelan Fowler, Williams and potentially Twels.
Speaker 3: Can I go ahead, can that position over there, if
Speaker 3: Mike's get me my double digit, can we write that down?
Speaker 3: Can we write down let's say twelve. Let's say just
Speaker 3: give you twelve. I'm just twelve from Mike, can do it.
Speaker 3: If these dudes over here can give you they twelve
Speaker 3: combine combine or fifteen combined, you'll take that.
Speaker 6: That's win. That is a win. That is when that
Speaker 6: is better than what you got last year.
Speaker 3: Okay, right right, So so there, if you're and that's
Speaker 3: you know, the ability of not having tang here.
Speaker 6: He wasn't there to give you any of that.
Speaker 3: So that's all I'm looking at it from an early standpoint.
Speaker 6: We're talking March.
Speaker 3: They still have the ability to go make moves. You
Speaker 3: still have the draft coming up next month. But right now,
Speaker 3: last year we saw man. The thing that dan Quinn
Speaker 3: definitely robbed this team of was.
Speaker 8: Depth, and and you're trying to follow Fowler and went
Speaker 8: over there and.
Speaker 3: Made some names for themself. So so you're trying to
Speaker 3: get some of that back. That's how I see it.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking I'm not looking for a Fouler to
Speaker 3: be the dude that you the Jacksonville drafted. I'm not
Speaker 3: looking for that. No, But if he's a positional, rotational piece, heckma,
Speaker 3: I can live with you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but all four threes aren't made equal
Speaker 5: and everybody plays a different scheme in that.
Speaker 2: And I think what not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 5: I think the point that you make about having that
Speaker 5: leadership at the second level, which helps your defensive line.
Speaker 5: We were all like all kinds of disjointed last season
Speaker 5: defensively because guys were didn't understand the assignment. Maybe it
Speaker 5: makes it easier for a guy like Dante Fowler to
Speaker 5: come in and play a system that he is familiar with. Right,
Speaker 5: But what you're talking about with the lineback and cores
Speaker 5: and the way that they back up this defensive line,
Speaker 5: I still have the biggest question marks and free agency
Speaker 5: right there, because we don't have the time, proof and consistency.
Speaker 5: I thought that the need was obviously at the one
Speaker 5: in three you sign Osa Diggie Zula to a contract. Okay,
Speaker 5: can we get some more depth piece behind him? Can
Speaker 5: we get some more depth behind Mazi? I mean that's
Speaker 5: where we're basically hurting in the center of our defense.
Speaker 5: On the outside, we have had to deal with Michael
Speaker 5: Parson's timing to beat double teams and other guys not eating.
Speaker 5: That's been the biggest buggaboo about this defense.
Speaker 2: If this guy's.
Speaker 6: Getting doubled in triple teams, where the hell is everybody else?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: And so a guy like Dante Fowler to me when
Speaker 5: you bring him in, I'm like, I know what Dante
Speaker 5: Fowler is going to be able to do on the outside,
Speaker 5: but interior, in the inside of our defense, I still
Speaker 5: don't think we've answered those questions.
Speaker 2: But you did someone answer that question because Solomon Thomas.
Speaker 2: Let's not get this misconstruded. They didn't bring Solomon Thomas
Speaker 2: in to play my bad. He can play both of them.
Speaker 2: But where Solomon has made his money in the last
Speaker 2: few years has been as a technique. When he was
Speaker 2: in Sam France, they were like, hey, let's put you
Speaker 2: out there, and you wasn't the guy, and let's put
Speaker 2: you back at three techniques and he revived his career.
Speaker 2: So you answered that piece. You paid your big money
Speaker 2: to o Diggi Zuo, So guess what, he's gonna be
Speaker 2: the big guy. Now you have Solomon coming in there.
Speaker 2: You answered that, and then once again, we still have
Speaker 2: space to go in the draft and pick up these components. Uh,
Speaker 2: whether it's in Tier xterior if honestly, if it's me
Speaker 2: personally being what I've seen with all the people earlier
Speaker 2: in the draft, I'm gonna go towards that linebacker and secondary,
Speaker 2: and then later on in the draft, go get me
Speaker 2: some more d linemen because you have a lot of
Speaker 2: guys here, like you said, Sam, Neil and Fouler. Right now,
Speaker 2: we're expecting one of those three guys to be the starter.
Speaker 2: And then you have a rotational piece, and then you
Speaker 2: bring in a young guy to groom.
Speaker 5: Can I can I address the mess wise fresh tanking, Michael.
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Speaker 11: on the d line here. One of the members who's
Speaker 11: not coming back from the defense now playing Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 11: is one tank and heck Maherrison.
Speaker 2: I'm going to let you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead and take it from this since our man
Speaker 3: Barry Church also was not here last week.
Speaker 2: So now, well, here's the thing.
Speaker 5: I thought that since has News would have an opportunity
Speaker 5: to break, as soon as we leave the studio, then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, all.
Speaker 2: The drama starts to break out and unfold.
Speaker 5: I found it very interesting between Micah and tank All
Speaker 5: last week the media leading story was these two guys
Speaker 5: that had been teammates for a number of years seemingly
Speaker 5: have not gotten along. What I wanted, that's and and look,
Speaker 5: I just wanted to ask you guys as former players,
Speaker 5: and I know obviously the locker room, everybody is not
Speaker 5: gonna get along room.
Speaker 2: And I don't want names.
Speaker 5: I don't want to dig them. I don't want to
Speaker 5: dig up no troublemo. But have you ever had a
Speaker 5: situation like that where you were playing with a guy
Speaker 5: and you thought y'all was famin Then as soon as
Speaker 5: the guy leave, he realized y'all were not.
Speaker 6: I mean, it happens in all lot of both locker rooms.
Speaker 6: I was a part of.
Speaker 7: It happens, you know, and it happens usually with the
Speaker 7: with the top tier, the starters, That's what it usually happens.
Speaker 7: And you know, you would think. Not for me personally.
Speaker 7: You know, I never was like beefing with anybody in
Speaker 7: the locker. I never, you know, I was like, man,
Speaker 7: whatever it is, what it is. You know, there's guys
Speaker 7: that I like more than other guys, but I never
Speaker 7: really had beef, at least from my side of things.
Speaker 7: But I mean, you see it all the time, whether
Speaker 7: it's you know, guys that you know aren't doing their
Speaker 7: job the right way, or you know, some guy comes
Speaker 7: in and takes that light from the other guy, and
Speaker 7: then you'll start to see little fractions break off, and
Speaker 7: you know, this guy's hanging with this guy. This guy's
Speaker 7: not hanging with this guy anymore. And then you'll start
Speaker 7: to hit the chit chats, you know, behind the back,
Speaker 7: says man, if it wasn't for that dude doing this, man,
Speaker 7: we could be doing this, We could be doing that,
Speaker 7: and that you know, it starts off as small chit
Speaker 7: chat here and there, and then it starts to splinter
Speaker 7: until you know, getting in the film room and you
Speaker 7: see it.
Speaker 2: I told you, if you would have did this, this
Speaker 2: would happen.
Speaker 6: And then it breaks off into something crazy.
Speaker 7: And that's what I think happened in this situation, like,
Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, the ins and outs. I
Speaker 7: wasn't in the locker room with the Law and Parsons
Speaker 7: and all that. I wasn't there, but you kind of
Speaker 7: see the little bickering on the sidelines here and there,
Speaker 7: and then you know they're back best friends again, and
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, when you know, when they
Speaker 7: part ways, I got.
Speaker 2: Words for you, you got words for me.
Speaker 7: So I don't in my opinion, this is just my opinion.
Speaker 7: I wasn't in that locker room.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I could be one thousand percent wrong, but to me,
Speaker 7: I don't think they were ever the you know kumbai
Speaker 7: Ya twins out there.
Speaker 6: I think it was more of d Law was the
Speaker 6: top dog at the time.
Speaker 7: Parsons came in, young fresh pup, spawled out and kind
Speaker 7: of snatched that, kind of stashed the rains as far
Speaker 7: as the guy on the defensive line, and you know,
Speaker 7: I don't think Tank took that well, but he kind
Speaker 7: of had to swallow it because Pauls, because you know,
Speaker 7: Parsons was that guy and he's generational, so.
Speaker 6: He kind of took the reins from him.
Speaker 7: Man, I don't think that ever kind of sat well
Speaker 7: with d law So you know when he left, he
Speaker 7: said what he said, not pointed it directly at parting
Speaker 7: like that he was just saying.
Speaker 5: It over wrong, did but I think he put it directly.
Speaker 2: You think you think he put it directly? He wrote,
Speaker 2: what do you mean? Okay?
Speaker 5: So the whole thing derived from him saying that it
Speaker 5: wasn't and I'm paraphrasing, it's not like we were going
Speaker 5: to win the super.
Speaker 2: Bowl, and that's that's what I but what was? But
Speaker 2: what was the follow up after that?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 5: Get him to you know, the fact checked over there.
Speaker 5: Get Michael him so I.
Speaker 2: Can give my response. I been waiting.
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the super Bowl response.
Speaker 2: He said, organized and short and I'm gonna paraphrase it,
Speaker 2: but in short terms. He basically followed up and said, well,
Speaker 2: maybe that's your problem right there. If you stay off
Speaker 2: Twitter and stopped like pretty much like everybody said, stop
Speaker 2: doing interviews and all that stuff, you just wouldn't be
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 4: And I'll still be there. So and he's not.
Speaker 7: The only one that said something about you know, his office,
Speaker 7: they had his deal with it as well.
Speaker 2: He hasn't.
Speaker 4: He hasn't And all right, here it is there.
Speaker 2: You go there.
Speaker 6: You calling me.
Speaker 3: A clown won't change the fact that I told the truth.
Speaker 3: Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have left.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's that's that's pointing. That went from that.
Speaker 2: Everybody what to say here, I got a wire view
Speaker 2: and then soon as somebody says something who.
Speaker 6: Heard porces clap back in Indie law has said this.
Speaker 7: But if we're keeping it up being we always do here,
Speaker 7: could he have come back like no, No, you can't.
Speaker 2: I would have you Can you have know they were
Speaker 2: they weren't breaking it back. I'm gonna tell you like this,
Speaker 2: they won't bring them back for that money if he
Speaker 2: would have took like a holy discountess. But yeah, of course,
Speaker 2: all along he said he wasn't going to do it,
Speaker 2: so we knew he wasn't coming. He never sat around
Speaker 2: here and gave me that would behoove you to do that.
Speaker 2: But let's get back to the original thing. As far
Speaker 2: as what happened between them and I can speak on
Speaker 2: it because I've been in the locker room with Tank.
Speaker 2: I love him as a person. It's a it's a
Speaker 2: hot and fire mixture. Anytime somebody feels threatened in that
Speaker 2: type of position or just feel disrespected. Why are we
Speaker 2: sitting here trying to mitigate how many times over the
Speaker 2: years that he's been the bad boy in the in
Speaker 2: the media. He says, I want to be the Alfa male. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what. You can't have two affle dogs on the
Speaker 2: same d line. And so now that the guy not
Speaker 2: only come in there, he's an Alfa male and he
Speaker 2: has the production that you no longer have. That dog
Speaker 2: is still barking at it and Tank is just not
Speaker 2: friendly like that. And there's nothing wrong with him. That's
Speaker 2: what's made him great, a great competitor, and put that
Speaker 2: chip on his shoulder. He's always felt like he had
Speaker 2: the battle. So guess what, he made an enemy with
Speaker 2: this guy. But guess what, we're all friends. Were winning,
Speaker 2: we're all friends when you're making me look good. But
Speaker 2: let's not get this misconstruedor man, this is not little league,
Speaker 2: this is not college no more. We are all grown
Speaker 2: men and we have a job. I'm looking at the viewers.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I have to feed my family. I
Speaker 2: don't care about that. Like when you first come out
Speaker 2: of college, like yes, that's cool, let's go over here,
Speaker 2: let's play the game after this and that. But you
Speaker 2: have grown men that are out here feeding their family
Speaker 2: and taking millions away from you. So no longer are
Speaker 2: you winning, No longer are you getting a notoriety, and
Speaker 2: now you're on a losing team. It's like now we're
Speaker 2: fighting for chips and you're taking away my chips. And
Speaker 2: he spoke on that. Now, granted that I respect the
Speaker 2: way that he did it. No, you want to talk
Speaker 2: about it when you leave, like, nah, that ain't it,
Speaker 2: But I can't. I understand from d lost respect to
Speaker 2: understanding him as the player and understanding the media gave
Speaker 2: him the bait and guess what, they went fishing and
Speaker 2: they got it. So that part of it, I'm not
Speaker 2: opposed to that. Micah's standing up for your team saying that, yes, rightfully.
Speaker 2: So now where you start to bring in other people
Speaker 2: have been talking about him off the field and his
Speaker 2: off the field interviews and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: That's where the real.
Speaker 2: Question is, like how much do you really feel like
Speaker 2: this is taken away? If he really stopped doing these interviews,
Speaker 2: do you think that that time is going to be
Speaker 2: invested on him making himself better as a football player.
Speaker 2: Could it be? Yes, will it be? That's a whole
Speaker 2: different another story. So how much of that's the real question?
Speaker 2: Is it really that big of a problem? And he
Speaker 2: is he the sole factor of while we're losing. But
Speaker 2: don't sit here and try to say, oh, I think
Speaker 2: they never liked each other.
Speaker 4: No, they didn't, because.
Speaker 2: If they liked each other, they wouldn't even be on Twitter.
Speaker 2: So the fact that they're doing it out there, like,
Speaker 2: stop trying to draw this stuff up there. They didn't
Speaker 2: like each other, They went to work. How many people
Speaker 2: have you played with? You don't like him? But we
Speaker 2: have one job to accomplish right here, and while we're
Speaker 2: on the same team, we're teammates. Take that for what
Speaker 2: it is. Everybody's not your friend. If you find some
Speaker 2: few friends now that you're retired, Now that I'm retired,
Speaker 2: how many players do you actually still talk to and
Speaker 2: have a good connection with a few of them? Not many?
Speaker 2: I guarantee you is that everybody Barry Church entering the
Speaker 2: league when he first was there Jacksonville Cowboys, Barry Church
Speaker 2: would have said, oh, all these guys are my friends.
Speaker 4: As soon as I left.
Speaker 2: It's like how many people actually checked on you, not
Speaker 2: the initial retirement, but three months post retirement saying hey,
Speaker 2: how are you doing this and that? And guess what,
Speaker 2: when you do the math, you'll realize later on you're
Speaker 2: not that friends. And so that's the harsh reality. It
Speaker 2: just sucks that the fans are finally saying this because,
Speaker 2: like what Mama used to say back in the day,
Speaker 2: let's keep everything in how so everybody don't know what's
Speaker 2: going on as a true vet. That's what I'm disappointed
Speaker 2: in this d laws should have kept that and text
Speaker 2: him or did whatever. Michael should have text him on
Speaker 2: the side instead of taking it with the Twitter fingers.
Speaker 7: And that's one thing that you know, I will say,
Speaker 7: it's one thing to be friends. You don't have to,
Speaker 7: like you said, you don't have to be friends with everybody,
Speaker 7: But you don't have to be envious as well. You
Speaker 7: don't you don't have to sit there and be like,
Speaker 7: oh man, this guy's taking my shine. All right, Well
Speaker 7: step the game up, Yeah, I mean, don't you don't
Speaker 7: hate the man just because he's getting he's better than you.
Speaker 7: And that's what I always took from it, like, all right,
Speaker 7: this dude may come in and he made ball out
Speaker 7: Like we drafted safeties and corners every year I was
Speaker 7: in the league and they getting they shine.
Speaker 2: Do I sit there and am I envious to that?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not gonna sit there and try to hate
Speaker 7: on the man because they couldn't in and he's trying
Speaker 7: to take my spot.
Speaker 4: No like that. That to me and that and that's.
Speaker 7: Why I played as long as I had because I
Speaker 7: worried about myself and what I have to bring to
Speaker 7: the table. I'm not worried about what this dude's taking
Speaker 7: away from me with this guy, and I could be
Speaker 7: cool with that guy, and I could be.
Speaker 2: Cool with everybody. I'm gonna worry about what I got
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 7: I'm not worried about what this man or the next
Speaker 7: man got to do as far as taking my position.
Speaker 2: Like if you took my positions, kudos? Do you took
Speaker 2: my position?
Speaker 7: But man, look, I'm not gonna sit here and be
Speaker 7: mad at or envious over somebody that's coming in.
Speaker 2: And trying to take the shine they're trying to eat
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 6: Put him on the podcast.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: They never went on the podcast together and never had
Speaker 5: exactly you go with your heck, when you look at
Speaker 5: it at the end of the day, I felt like
Speaker 5: from the beginning it was always going to be a
Speaker 5: situation of a passing the torch when it came down
Speaker 5: between Tank and Micah, and we knew what kind of.
Speaker 2: Leadership guy Tank was.
Speaker 5: He's the raw rock, get everybody going before the game,
Speaker 5: but also a guy that was a plug that plugged
Speaker 5: the run was. It didn't have the big sack numbers.
Speaker 5: But when it comes down to the alphas, I mean,
Speaker 5: you got a locker room full of alpha males, and
Speaker 5: that's the that's the management part of the head coaching
Speaker 5: coaching staff is to make sure that you manage all
Speaker 5: of that. To me, it reeks of the organization dysfunction
Speaker 5: when it comes down to two guys that have played together,
Speaker 5: ball together, been in the trenches together, and one leaves
Speaker 5: and then you'll part these parting shots.
Speaker 2: And I didn't.
Speaker 5: And again, for however, Tank said it, like you said,
Speaker 5: they went fishing, they got what they wanted.
Speaker 2: He felled for the bait.
Speaker 5: Maybe you should have answered that a little bit different,
Speaker 5: you know, because a lot of guys when they leave Dallas,
Speaker 5: they come back anyway, right, they come back, but they
Speaker 5: come back, they have homes, they're a part of the community.
Speaker 5: And for me, it's so much good will that you've
Speaker 5: invested here. You don't want to throw all that away
Speaker 5: with a comment made in the media.
Speaker 2: And I don't think that he did.
Speaker 5: I just thought that it was very ugly to see
Speaker 5: two guys that were stars here go at each other's
Speaker 5: throat and what the hell did that do when we
Speaker 5: were on Sundays against Philadelphia against the Giants. If you
Speaker 5: guys are not on the same page out here about
Speaker 5: this and you both a millionaires, you both getting paid, Okay,
Speaker 5: this ain't nobody's got alligator ons to do two.
Speaker 2: Big up the bill, come on now, I mean.
Speaker 5: And to see them, to see them battle like that
Speaker 5: in the media and to have thug thumbs and go
Speaker 5: after each other, I thought that was ugly.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: It was messy and I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 5: And to hear from you guys and to hear that, look, hey,
Speaker 5: it ain't all love anyway in the locker room. But
Speaker 5: it's how you handle yourself.
Speaker 2: Definitely. The perception is everything. That's all you got to remember.
Speaker 2: Somebody is always watching, and like you said, you're building money,
Speaker 2: like you don't want to go out there and diminished that.
Speaker 2: Like later on y'all might want to talk about this
Speaker 2: be on the podcast and stuff like that. You never
Speaker 2: burn a bridge because you never know where that bridge
Speaker 2: might leave that. So that's where that is. Not cotton bro.
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Speaker 3: talking to the media today coming up at eleven o'clock hour,
Speaker 3: gonna be Dante Fowler, Paris Campbell, and Miles Sanders. Miles
Speaker 3: Sanders running back, go along with Javonte Williams running back
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys have here. You've got got Duce Vaughan
Speaker 3: in the in the running back room. There are rumors
Speaker 3: the Lord to say the Cowboys will spend a first
Speaker 3: or second day pick on a running back.
Speaker 6: How are we feeling about the run the back room?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: You laugh? Go ahead.
Speaker 6: I said, if you.
Speaker 7: Get set a first day like you just said, if
Speaker 7: you get a first day the second day, you know,
Speaker 7: you get a second day guy in there, I think
Speaker 7: you can be solid. I ain't gonna say you set
Speaker 7: and you're gonna have that, you know, DeMarco Murray. If
Speaker 7: they running back like we used to seeing from the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: but I think you would have enough bodies in there
Speaker 7: and enough talent in there to have some sort of
Speaker 7: a run game. Now, will this team in this offense
Speaker 7: run the football? Because we've all heard it before. We're
Speaker 7: gonna run the ball, we're gonna be balanced, we're gonna
Speaker 7: do this that we're gonna help the defense. And where
Speaker 7: do they go out there and do throw the ball
Speaker 7: fifty times a year game? So I think if they
Speaker 7: commit to the run, with the bodies they have in there,
Speaker 7: the Miles Sanders, the Williams of the world, you go
Speaker 7: get you a Day two guy in there as well,
Speaker 7: somebody that's super talented and have just a different assortment
Speaker 7: of backs, then I believe you can get.
Speaker 6: The job done.
Speaker 4: I think they got the job done.
Speaker 2: They found multiple people in there, all these like you said,
Speaker 2: the different assortment in the backs. You have your bull
Speaker 2: dozer in there, you have your scat bag, you know,
Speaker 2: and a lot of these guys haven't had the opportunity.
Speaker 2: The head coach they have is a run first guy.
Speaker 2: Then you have all the guy the weapons that they
Speaker 2: have added. I think one you have to go get
Speaker 2: a Day two guy. I wouldn't say necessarily reach, and
Speaker 2: we talked about this plenty of timely. I don't think
Speaker 2: the Cowboys should reach in that first round. If the
Speaker 2: guy that you just aren't in love with, I know
Speaker 2: everybody's saying Ashton Gent but like the guy from North Carolina,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm favorite of him. But for me, I would
Speaker 2: trade back and then sit here in the draft like
Speaker 2: this is a running back draft, the heavy class. Why
Speaker 2: you can't sit and wait until the second round. Go
Speaker 2: get somebody that's good, or shoot, what's the guy in
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, Bucky Irving? They found out what round was?
Speaker 2: Was he in with fourth round? They don't have a fourth? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm saying, why do you keep going back with the
Speaker 2: mingo thing? Fourth? I know, I know, but I'm saying
Speaker 2: that you can. I say that to say you can
Speaker 2: go find you a starter late. There's not a big
Speaker 2: necessary you you got all your debt pieces.
Speaker 3: They don't need to wait. They don't need to they
Speaker 3: don't need to wait. Stop playing around. Waited last year
Speaker 3: you didn't get got so.
Speaker 2: That was free agency.
Speaker 4: That was Derek Henry.
Speaker 6: No, he was even drafted last year.
Speaker 2: They last last year.
Speaker 6: They stop waiting, stop wait.
Speaker 3: So so Thursday Friday, somebody somebody need to be harry
Speaker 3: that rock.
Speaker 4: There is somebody that needs to be broke toting that rock.
Speaker 2: But like you said, we just talked about linebackers earlier
Speaker 2: that you got to fill in offensive line for all
Speaker 2: these running backs. Why would you go get five or
Speaker 2: six running backs and don't have an offensive line that
Speaker 2: can block for oh.
Speaker 6: Man, your off Wow, not devastating.
Speaker 4: It's not. It's not it's devastating.
Speaker 7: But they're still devastated or devastating devastating.
Speaker 2: It's not devastating. That is devastated.
Speaker 3: I would disagree. Look, you lost Zach Martin, but we knew.
Speaker 3: We knew all year long he wouldn't coming back. You
Speaker 3: knew that, Okay, you knew that. So if you take
Speaker 3: Bbie off center, put him at guard, put Hoff in
Speaker 3: the center, you can you can.
Speaker 6: You can work with that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: Now I go back to this, the great Nate Newton
Speaker 6: talked about, Hey man, I was just a player. Then
Speaker 6: Nimmy Smith showed up.
Speaker 3: Now I'm a pro bowler. Get you get a really,
Speaker 3: really good running back, you can make some work. When
Speaker 3: LT was with the Chargers, man he looked took some
Speaker 3: regular dudes. Next thing, you know, they're looking good. When
Speaker 3: he was a TC man ran four hundred yards all
Speaker 3: of a sudden.
Speaker 2: You know, dudes was damn for LT.
Speaker 5: Look at the two running you bring up, you bring up,
Speaker 5: you break up L T see M and or LT
Speaker 5: in this draft right here, because it's the thing. If
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to run the ball, you're gonna have
Speaker 5: to try for sure in the NFC East. But I
Speaker 5: have I have an issue with be positive hect Miles
Speaker 5: Sanders Williams to me as a tandem. If you're going
Speaker 5: to keep those guys and you're also going to go
Speaker 5: on the second day and draft a running back, somebody's
Speaker 5: gonna be an odd man out in this situation. And
Speaker 5: I don't think you could keep all three, all four
Speaker 5: of those running backs because somebody's not gonna play uh
Speaker 5: special teams.
Speaker 2: That's the truth.
Speaker 3: So let's just all right, so so fun I mentioned
Speaker 3: just look at the Raiders without Josh Jacobs, look at
Speaker 3: the Packers with it.
Speaker 4: Who's Josh? Who's this on this roster?
Speaker 2: Who's Joe?
Speaker 3: No, That's what I'm talking about, going in the draft,
Speaker 3: finding finding a player, finding a running back who can
Speaker 3: help you. So we're gonna throw bodies and we're gonna
Speaker 3: throw a a you know, hopefully because we've seen, Okay,
Speaker 3: of all the positions you've got in the NFL, one
Speaker 3: of the in my opinion, tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Isn't running back one of the easiest positions to transition
Speaker 3: from the college level to the professional level. Shoddy says,
Speaker 3: I want to run the ball if you're going to
Speaker 3: help your defense the ball for sure. So okay, granted, hey,
Speaker 3: it ain't gonna be Sae Kwon Barkley because you're not
Speaker 3: drafted a high But if Jent is sitting here at twelve,
Speaker 3: the Hampton kid from North Carolina looks like a three
Speaker 3: down back.
Speaker 4: They're guys out here.
Speaker 3: Olie Gordon from from Olaoma State, he's gonna come in
Speaker 3: for Dallas. Mean, there are the ability to say, let's
Speaker 3: go throw some bodies here at this position and just
Speaker 3: run the ball. How many times did they Mike tub Up,
Speaker 3: we gonna play comedy football? Next thing you they throw
Speaker 3: forty a game, Cooper I first start. But do you
Speaker 3: overreach for that? Running back?
Speaker 2: Is the question though? And are like or if say,
Speaker 2: say you get there, my bad, I'm gonna let you.
Speaker 2: But like, say you get there to twelve and all
Speaker 2: these running backs drop and now you're sitting here with
Speaker 2: all of them still sitting there, do you trade back
Speaker 2: just maybe one or two positions? So you can get more.
Speaker 6: That's a possibility.
Speaker 3: You could do it like you did with they did
Speaker 3: it with Micah or they did it.
Speaker 6: With Roy Williams.
Speaker 3: You could you could trade and say, hey, look we
Speaker 3: know what we're gonna go back two spots or three
Speaker 3: spots and get us a three.
Speaker 6: That's definitely something that can happen.
Speaker 3: But what you don't need to do is spend another
Speaker 3: year talking about we're gonna wait, and then you waited
Speaker 3: so long you don't get got So I'd rather them
Speaker 3: go ahead and jump on it quick and go get
Speaker 3: somebody to actually get out here and run the ball.
Speaker 2: You want them to jump get on it quick enough
Speaker 2: to jump up a position, get that guy twelve. They don't.
Speaker 6: They don't have enough.
Speaker 5: What's confusing to me, guys, is we have talked all
Speaker 5: season about the holes that this team has. It's a
Speaker 5: lot of holes. And you're you're asking for this team
Speaker 5: on draft night to nail it at every pick, and.
Speaker 2: I mean nobody ever does.
Speaker 3: But the opportunity, the opportunity to at least do what
Speaker 3: they did when they've drafted Zeke, to say we have
Speaker 3: a running back hole. Let's fill the hole. That ability
Speaker 3: is there be it. If it's not gent, it could
Speaker 3: be Hampton could it could be a whole host of
Speaker 3: other guys. Or this is a good running back draft.
Speaker 3: But if your head coach is telling you we won't
Speaker 3: run the ball, go ahead.
Speaker 2: And get some people out here. You can do it.
Speaker 3: And you're Sanders and Williams. These are guys who are
Speaker 3: alda Ross. They can help teach the guy how to
Speaker 3: be a professional. But go out here and go get
Speaker 3: somebody who can help you make a difference. That's just
Speaker 3: my opinion. I could be wrong. They can still sit
Speaker 3: there twelve and take a wide receiver. Who knows they'll do.
Speaker 3: They got holds, like we talked about, hold On, got
Speaker 3: receiver they got they take you take tech nic Millon
Speaker 3: from Arizona at twelve. That guy's good football player. That
Speaker 3: guy's a good football player. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: you need some help over. They tried to get Cooper Cup,
Speaker 3: couldn't get in. You better go get somebody Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3: So they try to Cooper Cup. I believe it, try
Speaker 3: to recruit him, recruit him.
Speaker 5: And Cooper Cup came in and said all this bread
Speaker 5: and they ain't give him a bagel.
Speaker 8: I believe it when I see it all right, fun show,
Speaker 8: fun show graduated, Batmanry Church, Trade, More, Harrison Such thinks that,
Speaker 8: Josh Jazz, Chris Bean, the Bean Kids, everybody helping us
Speaker 8: get the show done today.
Speaker 6: Will talk to you next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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