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Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: When you're a.

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Speaker 1: Guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 3: So how did you dare to surbey me? Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Winegar. We are not in the backyard. We're in a recording studio, so official. This is the first time in over four years, you know, since the little speed bump of the global pandemic that kind of stopped us from being in a recording studio. We're not in the backyard. I feel like a feral cat in the house. I feel this is going to be an adjustment period. We've all got to just brace ourselves. But eventually I'll stop clawing the furniture. Everything will work out and will feel great, and then there'll be video. That's the big deal here. Everyone's got to have a video at this point, so we'll see how all of this goes. What's going on? What is happening in my life? Well, I drove half an hour today to an appointment that canceled ten minutes before the appointment, So I just let that ruin my entire day, just let that kind of seep in. But I did get two gorgeous loads of laundry done. I'm on top of things. We're in the studio and we should just let's get into the podcast. I'm so thrilled about today's guest. It's Jim O'Hare. Jim, welcome to so Bridget.

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Speaker 2: What is this you mentioned about a global pandemic. Oh, I don't know if I'm familiar with that.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was a hoax, so you're probably more on top of the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I travel a lot, so I just I wasn't aware of something had happened.

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Speaker 3: We were on a lot of planes, were a lot.

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Speaker 2: I was up in the air a lot, So I really don't know what happened down here. I don't like to know what goes on down here. So it all worked out for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wish I could say the same for myself, but I made it through, and thank God for my I was just telling you the backyard, which I feel like the listener is probably going to be screaming about for a while. Get back to the backyard. We'll just see what happened.

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Speaker 2: For those who are listening, and I know you're saying, this is one of the first, if not the first time you're in this studio first time. This is a gorgeous studio. The building is gorgeous. This is I know nothing about your backyard. Maybe it too was gorgeous. I can't speak to it, but I can tell you, listener, this is quite the setup, like really producing and microphones and all the good stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's too all the good stuff.

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Speaker 2: It is a lot. The building is amazing when you want enormous, so normous.

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Speaker 3: My god, I could hide in here.

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Speaker 2: You could hide in here. And I, for one, I'm glad I'm not sweating in your backyard. So that's that's not that's me, that's Jim O'Hare. Others might be negative about that. I am on board with not being in your backyard.

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Speaker 3: What can I do to get you sweating in my backyard?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Others, well, let's see twenty bucks. I'll use you do most anything. Ha. Yeah, my only fans, you know, stuff like that. Other people, there are some people will pay me the sweat. There's a whole community out there. I don't judge. I don't judge.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you'll be getting a request I'm gonna I will be signing up your only fans. I'm going to be making big demands, huge, disgusting.

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Speaker 2: And for twenty bucks, I engage all of them. Yes, so just so people know.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's good to know, very good information. I am nothing.

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Speaker 2: I tried to open it only fans. They wouldn't let me. They literally said, no, this is where we this is where we draw the line. A site they will let anyone do anything said no, no, this is where we draw the line.

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Speaker 3: I ran into the same problem. I created a burner account and I am producing a lot of content. There's some explicit material just pouring onto the entry.

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Speaker 2: I need access, I need excess.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's free. People will not pay.

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Speaker 2: People aren't even paying.

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Speaker 3: No, but I am thinking about trying to sneak in here and stay the night. You should think that would be a nice little surprise for everybody.

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Speaker 2: It would be a lovely surprise, and it's temperate. You'd be very comfortable.

00:04:35
Speaker 3: What a way to lose my contract?

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Speaker 2: Oh a contract? Boy? Aren't you fancy?

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Speaker 3: Wow? You have a podcast?

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Speaker 2: You have a contract Parks and recollection. Apparently I do they pay me? I don't know. I guess I signed something. I am just this is not this is sad, but it's true. I am terrible about business. I'm terrible about contracts. Today I had to sign something and I didn't read it. I'm just like, I trust everybody around me, which I know will not hold up in court when I'm being sued for god knows what. But I started reading it says the party of the first part, party of the second and clause thirteen. B oh no no no, no, no, no, no no. I trust that the people who are there to take care of me have taken care of me. And I just signed my name.

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Speaker 3: This is fully my I mean, I am absolutely a target to be taken advantage too. I'm first of all, I'm lazy, so I'm not going to be doing the reading me. And then I'm very trusting. Yes, I feel like I do. I'm like, oh, if I get into court, I'll just be like, well, I'm a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: I meant, well, well, head's Upbradge or ed doesn't hold up in front of a judge because they're going to go, you're an adult, you should be taking BLI me, I am the same as you. I would just be like, you know, what is a mercy of the court. I would just be falling on the floor because I just I do count on people being trustworthy. I feel like I'm really trustworthy. I wouldn't try to rip somebody off, so I don't think anyone else will try it. And I do, I mean joking about but I do have people around me. I do believe they are taking care of me.

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Speaker 3: But until you find your judas exactly, they've all got a judas in the shadows.

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Speaker 2: Wait, someone did try to kiss me earlier today, right before I signed. Interesting, it's something to think.

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Speaker 3: About after a really fantastic dinner.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not fantastic, but okay. And I'll kiss even after an okay dinner, just for the record, for those who are looking, it doesn't even need to be great.

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Speaker 3: Have you have you ever been betrayed? Wow?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been asked that question. I've been disappointed you in life, you know, here and there, in relationships and friends here and there, boy betrayed because betrayal to me is is is a lot bigger than disappointed, of course, like the betrayals like are you efing kidding me? You went this direction? So I don't think at least nothing's jumping out that I've been betrayed? Have you?

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Speaker 3: I mean as I First of all, I should not be asking.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's good.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask every guest I think, tell me about your deepest.

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Speaker 2: Betrayal, because I want to hear. I want the dirt.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think if I've really been betrayed before. I feel like the closest I've gotten is food poisoning. I'm like, because I tried food so much.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's true. Well, look at me. I trust food every day.

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Speaker 3: Right, every single day, and when you get food poisoning, it really does feel like, oh, I you know I trusted the restaurant.

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Speaker 2: That's actually that's a good betrayal. It's a huge even though they're not individually calling you out right, it's not that type of betrayal, but it's still a betrayal.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it is that maybe they you know, is here put this not in the burrito lettuce exactly.

00:07:40
Speaker 2: I was in. I was doing a theater gig in Kansas City a few months ago. Uh, and I got something called neurovirus oh, which I had never heard of.

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Speaker 3: I've only heard of this on cruise.

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Speaker 2: It's a big ass cruise ship thing. And I still didn't wory. I said to the factor, Ah, the hell, because I mean it was they had I had going instroom. They were pumping me in both arms with fluids and the shows I never missed a show like it was one of those the show must go on kind of things. Even though the theater was so gracious, like Jim, we have your understudy, we can do this. But you know, people paid to see me, and I'm one of those people, like, oh God, I can make it happen. But they were filling me with the fluids at both arms. I said, how did this happen? And he goes, somebody didn't wash their hands after they went to the bathroom. And then I start really getting freaked out, like, ah, God, all day long, we're touching things that people touched. You don't wash their hands after they go to the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: Oh, almost anything you touch has been touched by somebody with absolutely filthy hand filthy.

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Speaker 2: The good news though, sixteen pounds I lost sixteen of course a liquid, but sixteen pounds. And I won't say your name, Eve, though I love her to death. The actress in the play was like, oh, I want nora virus for a while. No, you know what this because okay, this is way too much information.

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Speaker 3: That I'm going to share with everybody, please please.

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Speaker 2: It was so bad that during performances, I'm an adult man who took all let's just say I put protection between my cheeks because sitting, coughing, standing, I had no idea what was gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: I would be in a full diaper.

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Speaker 2: That was I was too too proud to do the diaper, which please, I'm heading that direction for sure, but at this point I was still too proud and I didn't do it. But it was and the cast was so great, like Jim, because I had no energy. It was just like sit when you need to, we'll figure out blocking, we'll work around you. And I said, no, I'm gonna be fine with all that, but I can't guarantee I'm not gonna ship myself. I think I got I was clean, the toilet paper always came out clean. But that's how nervous I was, though, That's how unsure, because this neurovirus is an m effort, like oh, I'm sure, wow, And I had never I'd never experienced something like I had food poisoning and it's over and like, you know, twelve to twenty four hours. This was days and days.

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Speaker 3: How many shows did you perform with a neuro virus?

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Speaker 2: Uh? We do eight show a week. It was a Broadway schedule. So I was sick from like Friday to so eight seven or eight yeah, seven or eight shows, don't remember exactly. And the cast I would like, almost collapse after the show, and they were so concerned and and like, you don't have to do this, we can figure it out without you. But this theater's in Kansas City and it's this amazing place I've done. It was my third show there, and they normally bring in like one kind of celebrity guests for every show. And the show was doing very well, and you know, I'd like to think that people were coming to see me. And it's like, oh my god, they've they've paid for these tickets and anyway, you were ruining the show.

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Speaker 3: People are like, he has no energy. Guy sucks.

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Speaker 2: Everyone kept saying I brought it once that once I hit that stage, and I hope that's true because I would hate for people to go and well, I think he's shitting himself up there, honey, is he shitting? What's happening? Why is Joe Aaron stage shitting in front of us? I hope that's not what they were saying, but they would be wrong because I don't think I did.

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Speaker 3: Now I have an idea for a show.

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Speaker 2: And do Yeah, yeah, that's one. I'm done.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be producing. I'm going to Broadway with this. With this general concept, one actor will always be at risk of shipping.

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Speaker 2: Again, I like it. See if I'm available, if you get to book the space, see if I'm available?

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Speaker 3: And now did you also throw up?

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Speaker 2: No? It was not that it was strictly below the waist problem. I mean I wasn't. I didn't want food like I wasn't. There was no hunger or anything. But no, never never grab on the toilet bowl as far as that just just just.

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Speaker 3: The other end and deeply dehydrated, deeply.

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Speaker 2: It was so funny because they gave me one bag of fluids, I guess, and then they tested my blood again and she goes, oh, we haven't made a dent. So then they hook me to another bag with my other arm. So it was it was crazy. But the funny thing is I'm in Kansas City and the Chiefs are kicking ass. They're heading toward the super Bowl, they're in the playoffs. They emergency room because there was a Chiefs game was empty. Oh empty, And she said, she goes, oh, no, someone could have their arm cut off. They're not coming in here until after that game. And she was right because after the game the play started filling up. But I had my own emergency room.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Love, that's very Beyon.

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Speaker 2: But the embarrassing part there was a male nurse, sweetest guy. I wish I could remember his name, but he uh, he recognized me, and you know he was this and this and what he had to do for me. Oh, I kept saying, I'm so embarrassed. You should never hear. He goes, this is what I do. I go, I know, but you know you know who I am. And because you have to give samples of things exactly. Yes, there are people out there right now because I will tell you this, and I know I'm bouncing around topics here, if that's okay with you.

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Speaker 3: No, this podcast is only one strictly we dive into a topic and not straight Well.

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Speaker 2: I did a film right after Parks from Are called The Middleman and we get we did what do he called crowd funding? Oh? Sure, we raised because we had money from producers. But then we raised I believe, around one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty thousand, which you know was amazing. And these people are so generous to give, and so there were things we had to give as incentive bonus. Some were easy summary, but one of them was you got a phone call from me? Okay, So one night they give me a burner phone because you can't get the numbers. And I start making these phone calls and the one guy he answers and I said, hey, this is jim O Harre. I want to thank you. So I goes, oh my god, well can you hold Can you call me back in two minutes? Sure? I felt like I caught him off guard, so I did another phone call in the meantime then I could call him back. Well, I found out as we were talking he was having a good time while we were talking, and he needed those two minutes to prep for that good time. Oh yes, yes, and hey, I'm all for having a good time. God bless you do whatever rocks your world. But that threw me for and then he that's assault. He let me experience his uh, his completion, let's say, and the breathing. And I go, okay, well, thank you for help because and I hugged the phone up and I called the producer and I said, never again. Behavior, I think it probably is.

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Speaker 3: How did you're not press charge? No?

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Speaker 2: I mean hell, he donated to the film? Hell, and I just hung up, like, what is my life? What is my life? Stupid stuff?

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Speaker 3: So what what was the conversation you were happening with this guy while he was doing it.

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Speaker 2: I'm thanking him. I'm like so grateful in telling him about the film. Every I think I believe the deal was a five minute phone call. So I kind of kept the clock going, you know, because you know you want to come through sure, And so I'm just chatting about the experience of filming it, just giving the rundown of how in the cast we got this person and that person we can't believe, you know, just all the excitement, and I was excited that those weren't those phone calls were legit, because I really Number one was so grateful that strangers who don't know me would give me their money and how lovely. And so I was always grateful still grateful. And I was just talking about that, and then I realized as I'm talking, he'd be like then. And it took me a minute because you don't know do people ever? Of course, who knows things go on? But you know, I'm going to tell you a secret. I know what those sounds are. Like, I'm not going to.

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Speaker 3: Tell you how where did you get this information?

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Speaker 2: I read about it somewhere about what these sounds. I mean myself, I would have no idea personally, because I would never do something like that, at least not more than three times a day. But I would know, so I knew what was going on. And then again the big finish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then did he say anything you or did you just hang up?

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Speaker 2: It was so like, well, thank you so much. I can't thank you enough. And the movie comes out, but blah blah blah, and I hung up.

00:16:07
Speaker 3: You are an angel? Well, God bless you needed a whistle. You needed to blow a whistle into the phone like in the seventies. Yes, the heavy breathers, the heavy breathers.

00:16:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, it was.

00:16:20
Speaker 3: It was what a journey. Yeah, I wonder if you saw the movie.

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Speaker 2: I have the feeling he did there's yes. I'm sure he did. I have no doubt, and I'm guessing he got a copy of it and that is something that he enjoys here and there.

00:16:37
Speaker 3: How much money did you have to donate to get the call from you? Do you remember?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to think it was. It could be the five hundred dollars level.

00:16:44
Speaker 3: Okay, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a bigger level. It wasn't like the twenty buck level you get. I don't know what you got for twenty bucks. Maybe a sign like I signed hundreds and hundreds of head shots and that kind of thing was easy. I think it was a five hundred dollars thing. And there was a lot of people. And again, the timing was tough to make all those calls because whatever I was working on then, you know, because if you call during the day, the people generally aren't home. And I wanted to chat with like I wanted to.

00:17:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wanted to keep your word, to keep my word.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I think it would have looked shitty if I called like during the day to their home leave. And actually sometimes I had to do that because we would try three three three was the max, right, the third try over a couple of days. If you didn't, if I didn't get you, then it was just hey, thank you, so you on a message, because I mean, what can.

00:17:36
Speaker 3: I I don't give my own family members three chances. I know I could talk to them.

00:17:40
Speaker 2: They do hate you, which is weird. I know we've never met before, and yet I know all of your family.

00:17:45
Speaker 3: They just like me that much. They're reaching.

00:17:47
Speaker 2: It's deep, it's deep, ridger and I'll be honest, I've only been here a few minutes. I see where they're coming from.

00:17:51
Speaker 3: Of course, I.

00:17:52
Speaker 2: See where they're coming.

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Speaker 3: I'm finally starting like, oh, I can kind of see what why they would feel this way about a person.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful.

00:18:00
Speaker 3: Wow, what an experience. I cannot wrap my head around what you've just told.

00:18:05
Speaker 2: It's welcome in my world, yeah, Jim O'Hair world, ladies and gentlemen.

00:18:10
Speaker 3: I wonder if that guy's still alive.

00:18:12
Speaker 2: No idea, And for all I know, i've seen him since or you know, because I do appearances, I meet people. I don't think he can ever say it.

00:18:20
Speaker 3: Wow, he really, I mean, it feels nice to have a fan. Let's just say that.

00:18:24
Speaker 2: Let's there is a community out there. They're called, you know, gay men who are into bears or chasers or into big guys. Oh yeah, and people like does that freak you out? Hell no, anyone who thinks I'm attractive? I am on board? Are you kidding me? I did a show once. I want see what the other actor was. And this is many, many years ago. On the internet was just happening, and this guy and I worked together, another big guy on a very famous show at the time, and he said, I want to talk to you about something. Yeah, what's up? He goes, My wife saw something on the internet and I am very uncomfortable with it. Oh, do what's up? Because your internet was so new, you know, you're getting you're doing the dial up of you trying to get on and all this stuff. He said, Well, he she found pictures of us on a gay website. I said, well, what are we doing? Like, I don't think I've done anything on a gay website. He goes, No, they've taken pictures from television and put them on this website. And it's you know, guys who think were attracted, right, And I said, oh, that's kind of nice. He goes, Jim, they're gay, I know, but I think we're attractive. I kind of love that. Well his wife. They were horrified.

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Speaker 3: I mean screenshots from TV.

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Speaker 2: Shots from TV. But I will say this, the name of the site, and I will tell you was not flattering, and it might I have no idea if this site still exists. And I'm not knocking it, because again I thought it was all flattering. It was called whale watcher dot com. Yes, so think about that. So that's not the most flat. And it was like me and this guy and John Goodman and Farley, great looking men, all good, big guys, right, all the big guys were on this and they just took screenshots but there I don't know how they got them from the television.

00:20:08
Speaker 3: There was no They probably have a tumbler called whale watcher, and I should I.

00:20:11
Speaker 2: Have no idea, but yes I was. I wasn't thrilled with the name, right, that's what I was not offended by the content.

00:20:18
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, somebody feels like I'm good looking you. That's all I want in the world.

00:20:22
Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me, tell me, I love it.

00:20:25
Speaker 3: I'll take as much as I can possibly exactly.

00:20:27
Speaker 2: I have no issues with that.

00:20:29
Speaker 3: Well. Look, speaking of inappropriate behavior, disgusting behavior.

00:20:34
Speaker 2: Yes, I call that Tuesday through Friday.

00:20:38
Speaker 3: Well it's Thursday, gym, so I'm right in the mix. Yeah. I was really excited to have you here on the podcast. Really, yes, I was thrilled to have you. I thought, Jim will come, we'll have a nice conversation.

00:20:51
Speaker 2: Never thinking it would be this.

00:20:52
Speaker 3: Maybe things will dip into assault by phone. Who knows it'll be, so at the end of the day, we'll walk away no feelings hurt. The podcast is called they said no gifts.

00:21:04
Speaker 2: Yes, so you know you're.

00:21:06
Speaker 3: An entertainment professional. I thought, Jim certainly has read the emails. He knows the title of the podcast. He's going to come in without anything.

00:21:14
Speaker 2: Well it says no gifts, So yeah, you.

00:21:16
Speaker 3: Walk into the studio holding Well, couldn't more clearly be a gift for me?

00:21:22
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I'm a gentleman. Oh I am a I don't show up empty handed anywhere. I've learned those lessons so that I couldn't even though you said I said no gifts, Okay, I have to bring a gift. It's who I am, right, So it wouldn't matter if this title was don't shit in your pants. I'm someone who does, and so I will show up here. There's a chance something has happened while I've been sitting here that you and your people who clean up later can figure that out.

00:21:53
Speaker 3: It's a mess.

00:21:54
Speaker 2: It's a mess in here. No I did. I will tell you it's in an Okay, I'm going to say the name wrong, Henry Bendell bag. Am I saying it right? Or do you even know?

00:22:05
Speaker 3: That's a great This is for me is one of pronouncing any sort of fancy thing is my absolute worst nightmare, because yeah, this could be Henry Bendel.

00:22:14
Speaker 2: It could be That's what I was saying. And here's how I have that bag because anyone who knows me, and you can tell from looking at me, shopping is not my forte. This is a nice short given to me by somebody. I have no idea I am. There's nobody worse saying I hate hate shopping. I just did film in Barcelona and they had me in this beautiful hotel right off. There's an area in Barcelona. I had never been there, so it was all new to me called de Gassia and it's the main drag and it's basically their rodeo drive. Sure, and it was a beautiful street but I would have plucked hairs out of my ass before I would have walked into one of those stories you hated that much. Just do And people I'm with, you know people love to shop, and I know they do.

00:22:58
Speaker 3: I just I'm not about shopping that you don't like doing.

00:23:01
Speaker 2: Oh just boring. It's just so damn boring. So a lot of the clothes I have when I'm on set, they'll just give them to me. Say, Jim, do you want to keep thy clothes? Please take they fitted me? Yeah, that sounds great. I'll take those clothes. I'm trying to think, what's the last thing I bought. I don't generally buy because I'll get them from set. Or I have a sister. I am a sixty two year old man who has shown up to different things I'm doing, plays, whatever with clothes for me. She goes, I saw you on this one thing and I didn't think you were looking good. So she buying me clothes. Buy I can buy my own clothes. Very sweet. One of those gym shoes everyone's get the hookah oh hokah, I got a pair of those now. She visited me when I was doing a play in Kansas City and She goes, oh, I hated those old jim shoes years. I go, they feel comfortable. She goes, I know, and she sent me puer hocus.

00:23:48
Speaker 3: Do you like the hookas I love all them.

00:23:49
Speaker 2: There's nothing not to love. They're so damn comfortable. But again it's just so low priority. So this bag is either from Henry Bendell or on re Bendett. We're not sure. But the reason I got this bag is my friend Retta, who played Don and Ego Recreation, one of the greatest scales out there. We had lunch recently and she got some food service that gave her avocados, and she doesn't like avocados, so she did shop it all Reben del but in that bag. For me, I love the journey this bag, the journey this bag has been on, and now this bag has been gifted to you because I'm a gentleman.

00:24:29
Speaker 3: It's so sweet and I'm glad that these bags are being reused. Yes, I've got to find a use for this now. Yeah, probably some sort of fruit I find in my yard, yes, or dirt.

00:24:40
Speaker 2: Do you gift people? Do you ever gift people?

00:24:43
Speaker 3: I do gifts?

00:24:44
Speaker 2: Well, then there you go. Let them have that fun moment where they think thinking, oh my god, he got me some crazy expensive thing from Henry your home read this is the most amazing and then open it up and it's just whatever crap you would give.

00:24:56
Speaker 3: People would know immediately that I would. There's no chance I would have spent exactly. They would know that something in here was either free or I spent no more than twenty dollars.

00:25:06
Speaker 2: And you know, I had this kind of new uh this, I don't know if it's a revelation, but this, my new saying, is just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should afford something. So because my friends always like, well why did you go get this or this, I'm like, right, I don't need that.

00:25:20
Speaker 3: Why would you just why would I just go and get that?

00:25:22
Speaker 2: And I don't even know what on reed Bendel sells. I have no idea.

00:25:26
Speaker 3: My guess is from the size of this bagu socks, gloves.

00:25:32
Speaker 2: I don't know. Someone out there listening is screaming, you idiots, it's jewelry or shoes or perfume. Perfume maybe yeah, I have no idea.

00:25:42
Speaker 3: On a least, do you have any idea what their classic department store they have handbags and all sorts of goods. Oh, okay, very nice. I mean, like, if it's a department store I've never heard of, you know, it's got to be unbelievably expensive.

00:25:58
Speaker 2: Yeah. I grew up with a place called Kmart I love. Yeah, that was mine. So yeah, only Bendel was not on my shopping list. I enjoy the bag.

00:26:08
Speaker 3: Okay, I love the bag. And now we're going to get into it.

00:26:11
Speaker 2: Now before you open it, I brought you things that you know we are new friends. Yes, I brought you things so you can get to know me better.

00:26:19
Speaker 3: Beautiful, that's all I want.

00:26:21
Speaker 2: And this will there's three different things in there.

00:26:24
Speaker 3: That's really kind of an understanding of the assignment. Coming to the podcast with something that you want to talk about.

00:26:30
Speaker 2: Why get something you want, right? I mean, what's that? Why am I?

00:26:33
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind a boat, luck always looking for more cars, So future guests reach out. Okay, let's pull this. Let's get the tissue. We've got to get some tissue noise, especially on the fancy studio microphone.

00:26:51
Speaker 2: For the record, I packed it me.

00:26:56
Speaker 3: The tissue. Tissue is very hard for me to pack it always.

00:26:59
Speaker 2: How I did it it's gorgeous.

00:27:01
Speaker 3: Okay, now we're reaching it is. Should I bring these out in any order?

00:27:04
Speaker 2: Yeah? Take this. There's a bottle of.

00:27:07
Speaker 3: Something, okay, diet coke.

00:27:10
Speaker 2: Diet coke.

00:27:11
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I mean we're immediately on the same page.

00:27:14
Speaker 2: If anyone knows me, I'm not a coffee guy, I'm not a water guy. I'm none of the above. I'm drinking even as we speak, Kennedy, diet coke that you had in the green room, that was in that refrigerator, because that is Jim O'Hare's life force.

00:27:30
Speaker 3: You, I mean you and I both.

00:27:31
Speaker 2: It is a diet coke.

00:27:32
Speaker 3: Okay, diet coke. Well, first of all, I mean I have a lot of questions. You say, you don't drink coffee. No, you don't drink water.

00:27:38
Speaker 2: Oh I've had to, but I certainly don't enjoy it.

00:27:41
Speaker 3: And upon waking up, what beverage are you drinking?

00:27:44
Speaker 2: You are looking at it.

00:27:45
Speaker 3: You're drinking diet drinking diet coke.

00:27:47
Speaker 2: Fat. No, And I'm sure it's of course it's not good for you, though, I will say that. Adam Scott, you know from Parks, his dad, and I hope I'm remembering this correctly. If I'm screwing it up, Adam, I am so sorry because I've used this to justify my problem with my obsession, and that is I believe his dad was a chemist and his dad said, well, the ingredients really aren't all that bad, and so I've gone with that theory. So but I you know, sometimes you go to for your physical and they'll be like, oh, Jim, how much alcohol do you drink? And I'm totally just a social drinker. I'll have a beer if i'm you know, if I play poker or whatever with my friends, and you know, the occasional like gin and tonic, but a very low key drinker. It's just not my thing. And I'll say, well, just socially, and then well how much coffee? None? Oh, And they're like so impressed, and they'll say, well, what do you drink and I say diet coke and then that look comes over, Jim, how many cans a day? And I said, please don't make me say it, Please don't make me say it. I and this is all I can't wait for this. I posted a picture this was years ago, on Instagram of a stack of twelve twelve packs in my garage because God forbid I would ever run out. And I do have a lot of people in my life will also enjoy.

00:29:05
Speaker 3: Of course, everyone loves I had to.

00:29:06
Speaker 2: But here's something I learned Ridgerd that shook me to my core. And I hope I don't get emotional talking about there's an expiration date on diet coke.

00:29:17
Speaker 3: The expert, Oh, go off, it does go bad. It tastes weird.

00:29:22
Speaker 2: It tastes weird. And so one day and I still had like six of them left, and a buddy was over for what a director friend of mine, and he wanted to die cook I give him. When he goes, oh, this one's this tastes weird, I'm like, oh God, so sorry, plenty more. I open up another one. He goes, this one's weird too. Well, then I tasted. I go what is happening? And he said, well, what's the date? What date? Here's the date on the can? Idiot, there's a date on the can and it was months past.

00:29:48
Speaker 3: Oh months, that's tough, dude.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: I had to throw the rest of them in the garden. It was through tears.

00:29:54
Speaker 3: Well, I was throwing, Well, this means is you're not drinking enough.

00:29:56
Speaker 2: I know, but I believe me. I got to remember though, not all just at home. I go to a restaurant, I get my Di coke. I go to dinner, I get my die coke. Even if I get a beer at dinner, I give a restaurant with friends, it will be one, maybe two beers and then straight to the dike. Right, So it's other. I'm not just getting it at home.

00:30:12
Speaker 3: So how many ounces of diet coca day do you think you're drinking? Oh god, I've never thought about here, because I have a How.

00:30:19
Speaker 2: Many ounces are in that bottle I gave you?

00:30:21
Speaker 3: This is a sixteen point nine?

00:30:24
Speaker 2: Okay, So so if in a fantasy world, because I would never really do this, if I drink six of those a.

00:30:30
Speaker 3: Day, six of those a day, I probably drink six of those at dinner tonight.

00:30:34
Speaker 2: Okay, thank good, I'm not as bad. It's six to eight a day. Six. Yeah.

00:30:38
Speaker 3: That doesn't seem that I dia coke.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: I know it is, and I'm sure the shit that's in there is maybe not great for me, but I love it, and it has nothing to do with losing weight. Like I don't drink dit coke because oh it's less whatever it's less of I love the damn it's delicious. I love it, and I say, I was just in Barcelona. In Europe, everything is coke zero.

00:31:00
Speaker 3: Right, you're into cokes.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: It's people who love cokes your own. It turns out I don't. That's my only version I could get there. But to me, it's still very sugary. Right, even though I'm vera very I don't know diet coke as is is my juice.

00:31:15
Speaker 3: It's got a very uh not sharp, but crisp.

00:31:20
Speaker 2: It's got a nice cold one and a shout out to McDonald's. Nobody does a diet coke better than McDonald's.

00:31:27
Speaker 3: Do you want to get into this?

00:31:28
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll get into it. I will get into it.

00:31:30
Speaker 3: Yes, you're not going to learn what a Psychoieah, I can't. I love McDonald's diet coke so much, but if you get it in their drive through their machines now they run all of the soda through one thing, one little what is that a sprig or whatever something, and so their diet coke doesn't taste like diet coke when you go through the drive through. If you go into the store, and again, I'm an absolute psychopath. Wow, the diet coke is a million times better.

00:31:58
Speaker 2: And I got to tell you I mostly do drive through. I'm telling you because I'm the guy who goes to drive through just for the diet coat.

00:32:04
Speaker 3: You might be at a good McDonald's. There's still a few good ones left.

00:32:08
Speaker 2: The one in Encino, baby, shout out to Encino McDonald's. Yes, they hate me because for a while they were ninety nine cents. I love the large things. A dollar for thank you, and I'd be on my way.

00:32:21
Speaker 3: You know they're nearly three dollars now.

00:32:23
Speaker 4: I know they're back to their regular stuff almost coffee prices so apparently.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: And I haven't done it. But if you go on the app, huh there is, you get a.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: Cheap I'm not getting on dude. Not happy we.

00:32:35
Speaker 2: Mentioned we're lazy. I'm not getting on the app. No, I'm not getting on the No.

00:32:41
Speaker 3: I will happily go into the store.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds less than lazy, though. Well, park, you get out of your car, your legs walk, and then you speak. It seems like a lot.

00:32:53
Speaker 3: It means I care.

00:32:54
Speaker 2: Wow, it means you are better than me. I am simply better, and I am not proud of this at all. Here. I am in Barcelona and every fancy restaurant is there, and it's just you know, they're known for paea and croquettes and and I'm not a seafood guy, but they're known for their seafood all this mainz of stuff. And twice in the two weeks that I was there, I went to one Burger King of one McDonald's. I couldn't help myself because it was like, I just want a little normalcy. I don't need fancy. Just give me a whopper with cheese and a or a big Mac with extra secret sauce.

00:33:28
Speaker 3: Did they did either of those menus have like Spain specific menu items.

00:33:33
Speaker 2: Yes, And for some reason they kept giving me T shirts. I said to the man, I don't need that, but he doesn't know what I'm saying. I don't know what he's saying. I don't know what that was about. But somehow T shirts were all McDonald's T shirt. Yes. I don't know why. I truly don't know why. I know I was on my own because I was too embarrassed to be gold with anybody because they're like, oh, we're gonna meet for dinner at the and I'm like okay, And for lunch I met McDonald's thinking fill up. And then you know at dinner you can you know, because again there's so much amazing food in Barcelona. The seafood people have got squid on their plate. I could heave when I see a squid on a plate, or they're bringing them the fish with the hat on it. Don't put the hat on the fish, take it off.

00:34:18
Speaker 3: I think essentially every country in the world outside of the United States keeps the head on the right.

00:34:23
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but since I don't eat fish, I'm not a fan of it. It just makes me crazy. It makes me crazy.

00:34:30
Speaker 3: I do have a hard time. I need if I eat meat and I eat fish, but I need it to look as should not look like the animal to me. Yes, I just can't because I'm.

00:34:39
Speaker 2: The biggest hypocrite walking. I eat meat. Absolutely, I couldn't kill my own food.

00:34:44
Speaker 3: I couldn't.

00:34:45
Speaker 2: I'm the guy who grabs the spider and throws it outside. So I could never kill my own food. So if I'm eating something and it's like if I get like, I love ribs, right, but if I start chomping on a rib and I feel like I'm fighting that to get it off the phone. Then it becomes an animal, and I am done. I put it. I needed to fall off. And again it's so hypocritical because I'm like all of these poor animals as I'm long.

00:35:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad to dissociate a little bit, I know.

00:35:11
Speaker 2: And then here's how my brain goes, Well, they already it's already done, Like it's already in this store. If I don't show up tonight, the animal isn't alive.

00:35:21
Speaker 3: Then was killed for no reason, right right, like I'm.

00:35:24
Speaker 2: Helping that poor animal. No really, if the minute I go to my brain of this is an animal, I'm screwed, right, I just I just can't do it.

00:35:33
Speaker 3: Have you ever had rabbit?

00:35:34
Speaker 2: I have not. Oh if that's had rabbits as pets, but I've never always.

00:35:38
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I had a friend took me. He had read about this place in LA and he's like a giant foodie. Sure it takes us to this place, and that I kind of I think exclusively served rabbit. And I thought, I'm going to be adventurous. I'll try this and I'll eat almost anything. I've heard that mortifying, mortifying experience. I'm so uh, never again.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: Did it just with your head?

00:36:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was too far.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: It would mean too I don't eat lamb.

00:36:08
Speaker 3: Because I love euros.

00:36:09
Speaker 2: Well, oh damn it, you're right. I do eat lamb. I love Oh my god, you're right.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry speaking of like, you.

00:36:17
Speaker 2: Know, when you order lamb at a restaurant, never do that. But you're right. I do eat lamb.

00:36:22
Speaker 3: Oh.

00:36:22
Speaker 2: I hate me, I really do hate me. But oh, a good euro.

00:36:26
Speaker 3: But you're keeping You're keeping the lamb in a very specific box.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: He's on a big spit. Yeah.

00:36:32
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yeah that's lamb.

00:36:34
Speaker 2: That's I forgot that's lamb. Oh. And now I'm thinking I could go for a euro maybe after we wrap this up.

00:36:40
Speaker 3: You do you get euros? In La? I can never find a good.

00:36:42
Speaker 2: One firehouse and and uh, I'm going to say it's Resida. I think it's Resida, but it's at the corner of Victory and Reseda in I think Resida. And it is an amazing ero. This is great, you know, that's my that's my go to. Okay.

00:37:00
Speaker 3: I grew up eating a lot of euros and then I moved to La And where did you grow up in Salt Lake City and there's a huge Greek population.

00:37:06
Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense.

00:37:07
Speaker 3: I think they had there was like Greek Greek immigrants for some sort of mining I think, and then the population just grew and grew, and so there's like a Greek restaurant on every corner. There, very good Greek food. But then you come about, oh I love a bacle and.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: You know the real you know, how to really say it, bot laoa why. I recently learned that from a friend whose sister was in town. And we went to some Middle Eastern restaurant and we got all the stuff, the hummus and the homss and everything, and I said, oh, we got to get the baklava for dessert. Shees the what Oh yeah it was no, it's about.

00:37:44
Speaker 3: La Oh okay, I'm sorry.

00:37:46
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I've learned.

00:37:49
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, was this woman from a country that.

00:37:52
Speaker 2: Pronounced she lives in Jersey.

00:37:54
Speaker 3: That's very exactly.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Yes, And the ba was delicious. I will say that.

00:38:02
Speaker 3: You don't correct that.

00:38:03
Speaker 2: I know, yes, we all say bakla.

00:38:06
Speaker 3: Everybody says, I mean bought lawa. I'm going to keep that in my back pocket.

00:38:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my thing. I'll have the and I try to look at everybody to see the response generally pathetic.

00:38:19
Speaker 3: I am going to follow this woman to every restaurant and make sure she's pronouncing everything. She's ordering burrito's. That's such irritating behavior.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: Yeah no, but she's wonderful. But yeah, I was corrected.

00:38:30
Speaker 3: But laoa, Okay, you don't like Coke zero? Are there any other diet drinks you like? You know?

00:38:36
Speaker 2: And I hate to be the hater because I'll drink a diet pepsi if I have to. But when the store will say, well we're a pepsi place, okay, well you just lost a swallow. It's a tough pill, and I'll do it, and it's okay. I don't hate it. And in Barcelona there was it was all. I didn't see any pepsi products. I'm sure they were there, I didn't see them. It was all coke, Coke zero, coke, this, coke, this, coke this. But other than that, I don't I really don't know. Like I have family members who love like Mountain dew, I don't really do the dew. I like an iced tea. I like the iced tea. I love oh no baby, like sweet baby up. Oh sweetened big mixed berry flavored. Yes, Oh god, I'm sweetened. If you're gonna give me on sweeten, you better give me two packs of sweet and low.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: You're just telling me you don't like cokereo because it's too sty No.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: But it's a different type of sweet. Oh my god, you should see I said don't. I don't drink coffee, and I don't other than with a dessert. If I'm at a restaurant, I do like a cappuccino. But here's why I like the cappuccino. They serve it to me, and then they serve it with that brown sugar. Oh like that kind of fit brown sugar that I just slap in there. It's no more. It shouldn't be called coffee. When I drink, can I please have the brown sugar drink? That is what I with my dessert that I will have.

00:40:02
Speaker 3: Your drinking schedule is all a mess.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: It's a mess.

00:40:05
Speaker 3: It's a complete disaster.

00:40:06
Speaker 2: And then when people like, oh, can they get you a glass of water? What? How dare you just water? Oh dude, oh I will you know what, I'm doing a new animated show and I was in the booth. Yeah, I will say I had water, then I had no choice. That's all that they were offering me. And that's okay for them, because it really is just to kind of keep the pipes flowing. But the last time I asked for water, no, it hasn't happened. And what they have now are these squirty bottles that you squirt into water and it becomes flavorful water. So I buy those so if I have to drink water, I squirted this stuff in it. Next thing you know, it's lemonade, it's fruit punch, it's sweet tea. Of course, whenever I see sweet tea. If anyone out there is ever you know Chris Hansen, the one who does the pedophiles, oh yes, of course, the minute he walks in a room, you're fucked. Like, you're like, oh damn. But when these people walk into these homes, and whether it's the you know, they got a decoy playing a boy or a girl, whatever it is, they're like, oh, I'll be right down. I'm making sweet tea. So I always feel guilty when I'm making this. When I put the sweet tea mixture, I'm like, oh god, this feels very pedophile ish. Because I saw this on this show. And it's because I never heard the term sweet tea. But apparently in the South, the South, very much sweet tea.

00:41:30
Speaker 3: That is all they drink.

00:41:30
Speaker 2: That's all they drink. But I'm from the Chicago Land area, and we have pop.

00:41:36
Speaker 3: You had pop, we have pop, We had pop. It was an interesting cultural shift. In Utah, we called it pop until like I probably the early thousands to mid thousands, and then we switched to soda.

00:41:47
Speaker 2: You did. That's a big switch.

00:41:48
Speaker 3: I think it must have been the Internet or something that, like the word just started circulating.

00:41:52
Speaker 2: When I'm with my family, it's still pop pop. I mean, there's not even a thought. And my family knows when I say pop, they know exactly what I'm talking about. It's a diet coke. Yeah, that's wow. I couldn't switch.

00:42:04
Speaker 3: No, I made the switch effortlessly. Wow, I really slipped right. But then in the South they call also to coke, which that's true.

00:42:14
Speaker 2: Everything is cold.

00:42:14
Speaker 3: Give me a coke that's on accepted and they know what each other means too. Yeah, that doesn't work. There's no excuse for that behavior.

00:42:21
Speaker 2: Totally agree.

00:42:21
Speaker 3: They've got to get pick soda or pop or something else. Fizzy drink fizzy. Yeah, coke is a brand name.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, backlant, And I actually don't like fizzy water. You know if people like sparkles. Oh, I love sparks. No, you got one right in front of you.

00:42:34
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean to be honest, I had a diet coke in the other room. But then I thought, well, I had probably forty ounces of diet coke at dinner.

00:42:41
Speaker 2: I should you should have something else. No, I don't like the fizzy water. I don't know why. Well, and I think people think I'm cheap. At a restaurant, Sara, did you want the bottled or the regular regular? Please? I'm not being cheap. I just don't like the pizzy.

00:42:54
Speaker 3: Oh people know I'm cheap that well?

00:42:55
Speaker 2: Yeah again, I read the blogs. I know all about you, Bridger, all about it.

00:43:03
Speaker 3: Should we get back into the bag here? Sure?

00:43:05
Speaker 2: Okay, reach in there. You're going to find something else.

00:43:07
Speaker 3: Okay. Now, there's like a soft thing and a book type thing. Grab the soft thing, soft thing?

00:43:11
Speaker 2: Okay?

00:43:13
Speaker 3: Oh oh it's a Is this a Golden Girl's mask?

00:43:18
Speaker 2: It's a Golden Girls COVID mask.

00:43:21
Speaker 3: Have you used this?

00:43:22
Speaker 2: I have never? That is an unused cocking. This can be so you can if you felt like you want, you can put on your face. It has not been on my face. I uh again. If you know me, you know my obsession with the Golden Girls.

00:43:35
Speaker 3: Unbelievable show.

00:43:36
Speaker 2: It is my comfort show. It is I think it's still relevant and it's dated here and there, of course, barely barely dated. The topics, the acting, the writing, it's just to me brilliant. And that is like whenever I'm like kind of worked up and I just need a little something in the background, It's going to be Golden Girls.

00:43:58
Speaker 3: It's one of my all time favorite shows. B Arthur can say anything and I'm yes, I mean yes.

00:44:04
Speaker 2: And the way they you know that. I've read the behind the scenes. I've heard the interviews. There was issues. Stallghetti had terrible stage fright. I went to a taping one hundred years ago. No way, the buddy. We went for a little bit of time. I worked for the airlines. I worked for Eastern Airlines, which of course doesn't I was a flight attendant. And then there's dramatic silence when I say flight attendant. Interesting, Okay, I wasn't a flight attendant, bitch, air No, I was reservations for free. Oh.

00:44:40
Speaker 3: I mean, I still dream about like getting a part time job at an airline. So that's why I was.

00:44:44
Speaker 2: It was a part time job. I had a full time job, and I did it part time for the flight benefits.

00:44:49
Speaker 3: It's the best benefit of any job ever.

00:44:52
Speaker 2: I would fly first class for ten dollars ten dollars, And because I was in reservations, I could see what the flights look like. Oh, I could go, Man, that flight looks totally empty, because you know, you always fly stand by. But if you planned it right, I had very few problems. Every once in a while, the flight before years would get canceled, and then everybody's coming from that flight over the years, and then you could get screwed. But in general it was a gift. It was pretty cool. And so Buddy, I'm like, let's go to I got buddy passes, Let's go to California. And we did, and we went and saw taping on The Golden Girls, and stell Getty was, you know, having trouble memorizing lines, which I've heard all about since she was just a very nervous in front of an audience. But I think that show is so incredibly well written. Now as I've seen every episode one thousand times, they one story doesn't match with another, children don't match, fathers don't match. Characters come and go that we never hear about again, that they're going to be with forever. So I mean, in those days there was no binging the era. They could get away with it because it air forgot once and then it re ran once, and then life went on, never thinking somebody is gonna sit with it and watch six seven seasons one after the.

00:46:04
Speaker 3: Hour in a row.

00:46:05
Speaker 2: But I love that damn show, and I am not embarrassed to say I know it. They were like, it's like an old man show, an old woman show. I'm sorry, call it what you want.

00:46:13
Speaker 3: I think it's brilliant, one of the simply the all time best shows. Objectively, one of the funniest shows ever made. I am on board, and one of the few shows from that period that has aged well enough that you can watch just about any episode and still laugh at it.

00:46:27
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's again the occasional like political reference there is from you know, forty years ago. Right, of course that doesn't make sense, but ninety percent of it it's still relevant. They were talking about AIDS yes, they were talking about having an affairs like these are topics that were not discussed on any show, any show. Blanche's brother got married, well he couldn't get married, but he got right. Service like this was not talked about.

00:46:57
Speaker 3: It's very amazing.

00:46:58
Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's amazing.

00:47:00
Speaker 3: Do you remember what episode you saw alive? Oh?

00:47:03
Speaker 2: My god, totally the episode where Dorothy is she gets a huge crush on the teacher at school. Turns out he's a priest, and so he shows up and she doesn't know when she's dressed. They Blanche makes her wear some she calls it a solid gold dancer's mother's outfit or something like that. So yes, and every time, and it's on all the time, every time I see him, Like I was in that audi. I was there and it was the first time I'd ever been to a taping of a show. And they are drudgery because they go on and on and on, and when the actors, you know, are messing up, you know, at first it's funny and then you're like, oh, please get through this, because I've seen this scene ten times. But it really was such a great experience. Oh I'm sure, so I I treasure that memory. It was amazing and I think casting is so tough and it was nailed. And I've heard the stories they initially wanted Room McLain and who played Blanche, to play Roses, which I just don't see. It makes no sense. Maybe she would have done it and we would have been blown away, who knows. But the way it turned out was absolute perfection. Because apparently when uh, you know, because Rue had worked with Be on Maud, she brought this to her and said, listen, there's this great pilot blah blah blah. And b was like, no, I don't. I've already seen you play the ditsy and I've seen uh uh Betty White on Mary Tyler Moore play the flirty, slutty kind of whatever. And she said, that isn't what's happening. It's just the opposite. And that got the attention.

00:48:41
Speaker 3: That's so cool.

00:48:42
Speaker 2: And then she read it and she's like, yeah, okay, this is something it took me.

00:48:46
Speaker 3: I didn't learn for a long time about Golden Palace. Yeah, which is such a bizarre thing that happened.

00:48:53
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Be left the show. Listen as if I wrote the damn thing, friend, your b and I headline and I said her, be you shouldn't leave this show. But she she decided to leave the show. The others weren't ready to leave. But you've lost now twenty five percent in a really big prisi, maybe more depending on how you look at it. Again, and so I get it. They tried to keep it going. They turned it where they all of a sudden owned a hotel. I don't know where that money came to buy a hotel. No one ever seemed to have money anyway. It did not work. It went one season. But you know what's really funny when you think about it, it got canceled. I think they had like making up this number, but roughly thirteen or fourteen million people were watching. Nowadays, if you had thirteen or fourteen million, you got what's called a hit.

00:49:44
Speaker 3: You would get twenty seasons of the show exactly.

00:49:47
Speaker 2: But in those days, because there was three chances, ABC, NBC, and CBS, Fox came later, you were getting twenty thirty million people watching your shows.

00:49:56
Speaker 3: Never again, never go Oh.

00:49:57
Speaker 2: No, no, no, those days are long gone.

00:49:59
Speaker 3: Yeah that is long gone. Wild thirteen million as a failure. Yeah, no, it's such a wonderful show and it's so comforting. I could. Yeah, when I can't think of something else to watch on TV, I'm like, well, obviously i'll just watch and.

00:50:12
Speaker 2: I yell all the lines. I know all the lines. It's no, it's sad. It's sad, and I don't care.

00:50:16
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to Golden Girls Live?

00:50:18
Speaker 2: I have once.

00:50:19
Speaker 3: Oh it's so good.

00:50:20
Speaker 2: Where was it? And I even know the episode? It was when uh, the little girl steals roses uh teddy bear, I can't think of the teddy Bear's name, and she's this little bitch and they anyway she gets back there. I know exactly the episode that I saw it, or it.

00:50:35
Speaker 3: Was it Casita del Campo. I believe that's why I saw.

00:50:39
Speaker 2: Yes, was it? Do you know?

00:50:41
Speaker 3: Dude, drog of course I got what everybody knows.

00:50:44
Speaker 2: My god, he's so funny. I think he was in it.

00:50:47
Speaker 3: It was Pancake Sam.

00:50:50
Speaker 2: Maybe it was Sam I worked at. They're both just so funny and will are just up to do anything. Yeah, God bless them, like they have guts. I mean, you know, which is not good. But I'll be like, oh, I look like a fool if I do this or if I do that, how silly They're just like, let's have fun. This is the time they have such a good time.

00:51:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, is there anything else we should say about Golden Girls.

00:51:16
Speaker 2: Other than if you're new and you don't never heard of it, you're a freak. And if you would like to start watching it, it's on Hallmark every night. Oh and it's on CMT and you can stream it on Hulu. And just for the record, I don't get a nickel for saying any of this. I just happen to love that damn show.

00:51:34
Speaker 3: I wonder who's making money off of Golden Girls, And someone's got to right, They're like grandchildren or something.

00:51:39
Speaker 2: Someone's got it. I mean, stuff isn't free. Yeah, I would think creators are still making money.

00:51:44
Speaker 3: Creators, the writers are probably still making money.

00:51:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. And I paid money for that?

00:51:50
Speaker 3: Is this official?

00:51:52
Speaker 2: Don't What does it mean by official? I mean it's or like I saw it online during the pandemic and I bought it.

00:51:57
Speaker 3: There's no way that if this is like official merchandise, I maybe I have no idea. I feel like it's a bootlet.

00:52:03
Speaker 2: But I spent like a thousand on it. That's all because to me, that's nothing. I wiped my ass, But that's actually what I said earlier, and toilet paper up my ass. It was thousand dollars bills, which I don't even know if that's a real thing, but if they are, that's what I had shoved up my ass during that place so I wouldn't poop myself. No, I don't know where that's from other than I bought it online.

00:52:24
Speaker 3: Well, it's absolutely wonderful, I mean, and now I mean we've got it. Well, I guess it's still important to mask up in.

00:52:30
Speaker 2: Well, it's been sitting on my desk I have. There's parks and rex masks. There's all sorts of masks, right, and I thought, if.

00:52:37
Speaker 3: You're going to get to know me, this is an excellent mask.

00:52:40
Speaker 2: That's part of me.

00:52:40
Speaker 3: And this will really in the next pandemic, which is.

00:52:44
Speaker 2: Right when I just saw the new it's right around the wait did you see something about every day? Oh there's something coming out Indonesia today. Ah, crap, I can't go through it again. There's no Mandy dude. I'm the idiot who when this all started, I said it to anyone who would listen. Wow, we're going to be in for a couple of rough weeks. I really I thought this was me. Yeah, I thought you could go a couple of rough weeks, Babe and damn boom. Two years.

00:53:13
Speaker 3: We had recorded sixteen episodes of this podcast in a studio before releasing it, and we uh. The first release was on March twelfth, twenty twenty, and I thought, okay, so well we just have to go through sixteen max sixteen episodes. I'm going back into the yep. Oh boy, that was a rough experience.

00:53:30
Speaker 2: I actually got a little advanced notice because I was at firehouse when I when I love a firehouse subway sandwich, and I come out and there's some officers there, some police officers, and they recognized me and took a couple of pictures whatever, And I said, oh, what's going on and they said, uh, oh, you know, just some weird stuff going on out there. I said, oh, what's what's that? And he goes nah. And right across the street was Costco and he said to me, this cop, you know, you should maybe load up on some stuff.

00:54:03
Speaker 3: Oh this is so eerie.

00:54:05
Speaker 2: It was so eer I go, what do you mean? He goes, hey, am I want to just load up on some stuff. He goes, there's gonna be announcement at six o'clock. I got an announcement of what. He goes, I'm not sure, but so I go to Costco. While I'm in there, I'm calling friends and family. I don't know what's happening. This police officer, who was very friendly, said to me, gave me a hint that something bad is happening, and what can I get? So I'm buying. I spent three hundred dollars on crap. I think it's still in the freezer because I was just hitting the panic button because I didn't know what this meant. And so and I came out of Costco with this. My cart is super filled because I'm getting meat for people. I'm getting paper because I don't know. And there's a fireman out there. And I said, I'm sorry, but if you heard this, something's happening today at six o'clock. And he goes, yeah, just like that, Oh, oh feeling. So I go home. Six o'clock comes nothing, even o'clock, nothing like son of a bitch. I just dropped three hundred bucks. But around eight o'clock, oh, the governor got on and it all hit the fan.

00:55:11
Speaker 3: Damn.

00:55:11
Speaker 2: They were right. They were right. So but again I'm like, Okay, a couple of bad weeks, we'll all be back to normal.

00:55:18
Speaker 3: Wow.

00:55:18
Speaker 2: Was I wrong?

00:55:20
Speaker 3: And I kept pushing anytime someone to be like, this is gonna be a year, Like, give me.

00:55:24
Speaker 2: A break, I know, come on, a year the way.

00:55:27
Speaker 3: Anybody can go through a year of this?

00:55:29
Speaker 2: No? Yes, who could go through it? Well? We all did.

00:55:32
Speaker 3: We were all just robbed of so much.

00:55:34
Speaker 2: Yes, And I really, when you think about it, like the kids in school who had to stay home, who lost out on so many big you know, high school.

00:55:43
Speaker 3: Events, enormous life events.

00:55:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of heartache, a lot of heart agains. Sadly, a lot of people didn't make it, and that's.

00:55:51
Speaker 3: Not a good time, a good time. But here we are, Yes, and I think I've got to get this next thing out.

00:55:56
Speaker 2: Okay, the next thing is something new to me. Okay, something that only twenty people in the world.

00:56:02
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is an uncorrected proof. So it's really not even it's.

00:56:06
Speaker 2: Called a galley, yeah, of course. My new book. Wow.

00:56:10
Speaker 3: So it's called Welcome to Ponne, which it's a parks and rec book.

00:56:13
Speaker 2: It's called Walking Upon Any Stories, a Friendship, Waffles and Parks and Recreation, And actually, as it turns out, there will be a few changes to the cover just because again this is the what they put out for people to get an advanced look at it. And there's a setting, there's a sign, and I mean I wrote something to you in the book and the first couple of pages Bridger.

00:56:32
Speaker 3: I know you said no gifts, but I couldn't help myself. Can't wait to see what you've gotten.

00:56:37
Speaker 2: Yes, And that is why I showed up.

00:56:39
Speaker 3: Ye see why won't you just die?

00:56:42
Speaker 2: Well, that's just something I put on everybody's But that's great.

00:56:48
Speaker 3: Is I love this cover, dude, it's a cover is my favorite thing. What is the start? It's like that oldure like.

00:56:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you went to this how they do the you know, you go to a rest and there's act of a famous person all the major players on Parks and Recreation around this cover and their caricatures. And there's also, as you young people say, there's these things called easter eggs. Yes, so there's little easter eggs for the big fans of the show. There's like a DJ roombum yeah right there. But Hillary Clinton is in there because you know, Leslie loved Hillary Clinton. But yeah, Tammy's in there, and all the cast shout them all, wait, tweet just great. Yeah, Jean Ralphiel Biden. And there's Joe Biden because Amy was obsessed with Leslie was obsessed with Joe Biden. Yeah, I'm really And then then I didn't draw it, but I'm so proud of that cover.

00:57:41
Speaker 3: Beautiful. That's so cool.

00:57:43
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So that's been my obsession over the last It's taken me about a year and a half. You know, you get a deadline, you know, this book thing happens, a deal is cut, and then they give you dates. And I remember talking to Nick about it. Nick Offerman, who played Ryn Swanson. He's done I think three books at this point, and he said, that's the that's the motherfucker that deadline. And I turned it in two weeks late, which I was all worked up about because a timely person. Sure, I find out in the book world that's two months early. So as it turns out, I did just fine, because now I don't hear another word from them for two to three months because they never expected it. This of course, and then you do rewrites and this and back and forth. It's a whole thing. But it's I'm really proud of it. I never in a million years thought I'd have a book.

00:58:35
Speaker 3: Amazing, I mean, what an achievement.

00:58:37
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. There's a lot of pages. There's a lot of pictures, pictures people have never seen before, Pictures you took or yes, they came off of my phone's oh no, that's me like seventh or eighth grade?

00:58:52
Speaker 4: What you was this professionally taken? Yeah, I have a school the school picture you have like a prop. That's how they did it, baby, And this is all black. Then the real book is going to be in color. Everything you got, as.

00:59:03
Speaker 2: They call it, a galley, yeah, of course. And actually in this galley, some of the captions under the pictures don't even match the picture. So it's the it's the book before the.

00:59:13
Speaker 3: It's very confused, very confused, very.

00:59:17
Speaker 2: Want to have them out there that I have, and you have one of them.

00:59:20
Speaker 3: You met Mary Tyler Moore, Yes, I did, where.

00:59:22
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Saturday Night Live. I am obsessed with old television, like again Golden Girls, but Mary Taylor Moore, Dick Van Dyke, all in the family, Carolinet show, like these are shows, Bob Newhart mashed. These are shows that just just rock every part of my world. And I was truly obsessed with Mary Tellamore and Dick Van Dyke, and so I was when I started becoming an actor. In Chicago. I was doing a play there with my comedy group and we were we had created this play and we got one of the SNL writers, Christine Xander, to be our director, which was amazing. And so you get to know herre over the Sun, and then she knows my obsessions blah blah blah, and she calls me and she goes just so you know, Mary Tellamore is hosting Oh are you kidding me? Now, I didn't have two nickels to rub together. So I talked to some friends, a couple other people in the show, and I said Mary Tellamore, And to be honest, they were like, eh, oh what a spot. The musical guest that week was Elvis Costello.

01:00:19
Speaker 3: Oh what great.

01:00:21
Speaker 2: They were like super hyph for Elvis and nothing against Elvis Costello. I am a fan also, but that wasn't my That wasn't my reason for going in begging and borrowing and stealing. And we all went to New York and there she was, and she was everything I wanted her to be. And there's a very very embarrassing story in the book about what happened. Got to buy it to hear it, but it was I made a fool of myself, a fool of myself to the point where she thought, at least this was my impression that I, perhaps the term we've bed used today would be I was special needs. Oh, because that's how crazy things got. Wow, it was. But she was so lovely, gracious, and so then as life went on, I worked with I got to meet her. I worked with Dick Van Dyke, I worked with Carol Burnette. These are people that I dreamt like. Literally, I would have dreams of being at table reads on different things with people like this, And so to now sit here and say I've had moments with them still blows my mind. Is a surreal feeling, surreal, it's surreal.

01:01:28
Speaker 3: Wow, that is really wild. And you've got to see Elvis Costello what.

01:01:32
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, oh, I'm going to okay, so let's see I'm going to say eighty eight, eighty nine. Okay, So we're talking a long time ago. And the cool part was because again my friend. Our friend was a writer for the show. So we saw Elvis do his sound check. He did all the songs. We were ten feet ten feet from him doing that, and then during the show they let us stand on the floor. It was and there's Lord Miles with Lord and Michael's walking around and like, what the hell? And it was in the days of of Oh Jan Hooks and yeah, I loved Jan Hooks. I just I just every once in a while, I'll do a thirty watch.

01:02:13
Speaker 3: Uh that's what. There you go. Now you've thought of their recapta recap too.

01:02:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, what is it called? Rock? Thirty rock? And Jan Hooks played Jenna's mother on the show, and I just recently saw one of those episodes. She was brilliant but also like John Lovetts and it was that crowd and uh, that was a dream come true. I'm in New York, I'm in the studio, I'm standing where these hosts stand. It was wild. And then many many years later, when Chris Pratt was hosting Me and Retta and Nick and Nick was I think Megan was there to Melalley, Oh gosh, anyway, Amy was there. I think anyway, a group of us surprised him, and we went to New York and when he came out to host, we were up. He looked up and there we were. Yeah, it was It was really cool. So I've had a couple of cool moments there.

01:03:03
Speaker 3: Oh beautiful. Well, once it's going to republished.

01:03:06
Speaker 2: November nineteenth, it comes out and there's book tours, there's like, oh good luck. I just recently anyone follows me on Instagram the real Jim O'Hare and on my Facebook, I think it's just Jim o' hare. But I had to sign over three thousand pages for assigned copies of the book. Dude, Oh my god. And they gave me a deadline. So of course Jim O'Hare with deadlines, he needs to meet them. It's hours and hours. And also I put a fun little thing in everyone, so I'm not just signing my name. I'm signing something.

01:03:40
Speaker 3: I feel sympathy for you just.

01:03:43
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. So on top of it, not only did I sign my name, then I had to I signed this funny thing that fans of the show will and they'll get it and laugh and they'll get a big kick out of it. I don't know how many hours it just went on forever and forever and forever. They just kept this acts just wouldn't disappear. Uh And I will tell you the signatures look a lot different from the first five hundred page. There's a lot of blood on the page.

01:04:11
Speaker 3: Were you listening to music? What were you doing during this?

01:04:14
Speaker 2: Golden Girls could have been on. I do like a good date line. Who did it? We're going to find out who the murderer is. I do like that. Yeah, or you know, I can put Seinfeld on, I can put the Office on. I can put a show called Parks and Recreation, which I masturbate too. But uh oh wait did I say that out loud? I'm sorry?

01:04:32
Speaker 3: Can you know? That was the man on the phone.

01:04:34
Speaker 2: We haven't started this yet, right, we're amily, so you're still putting this together. Okay, so we haven't started. Okay, good please, I don't want that to get out there. No, Actually I have, you know, I do a recollection podcast of Parks Micreation, and so of course I'm rewatching them all again. I haven't seen them in years, and it's so fun. But I am still that actor. I don't like to watch myself, you know, And I think a lot of actors are like that. Even on set there's some actors and no knock to them. Everyone does their own thing, but they want to see after a take. Oh let me see, let me see, not me, right, I make the powers that be. We'll piece it together and give me my best takes and go on from there. Right, Yeah, just not that guy. But yeah, over three thousand signatures. They there's a place called Books a Million that you can get these signed ones, and then Barnes and Noble. So it's yeah, it's I'm learning so much. This is the world I know nothing about. And then I have to do a tour of New York, LA, Chicago, Boston, Miami.

01:05:32
Speaker 3: Fun.

01:05:32
Speaker 2: I think that will be because again I'm so shy, as you can tell, I don't like to talk. No, and that that is up my alley. That type of thing will be up my end. I think you will do the late shows and you know the promo.

01:05:44
Speaker 3: It will be very fun. Yeah, hopefully, And listener. Another fun thing is the upcoming live show. I of course have to mention October thirteenth at the Bell House in Brooklyn. Is there any other information you need the Bellhouse? N Why do you have to be there. Okay. I think it's time to play a game. Uh oh, We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. But I need a number between one and ten from you.

01:06:09
Speaker 2: Eight. Okay.

01:06:10
Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now, you can continue to promote, you can recommend, you can do whatever you want with the microL I'll be right back.

01:06:19
Speaker 2: Okay. People might why did he immediately go to eight. I like to always go one inch less than my penis size, so that is why I stuck with eight. What else can I promote? I can promote the book Welcome to Pawnee. I can promote I don't know if I'm doing a new project with Arby Plaza. It's an animation project. I don't know if I'm allowed to say much about that at this point, but I am doing it. I'm shooting a pilot soon. I have the podcast Parks and Recollection with Greg Levine and I over at Team Coco, which you can find anywhere you get your podcasts. Can I give you enough time? Perfect? Perfect?

01:06:58
Speaker 3: This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things you're going to tell me if there're a gift or a curse, and why to me? Like if it were, I'm not giving you any more.

01:07:08
Speaker 2: That's fair.

01:07:10
Speaker 3: I will tell you there are correct answers, so be very careful. But you're gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse? And why? Does that make perfect sense?

01:07:17
Speaker 2: It does, we'll see, Okay.

01:07:18
Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Carla. Gift or a curse? Ice in restaurant water glasses?

01:07:25
Speaker 2: Oh my god, gift? Why ice in anything? Gift? I just came back from Europe. They're not fans of ice. Give me ice, give me air conditioning, give me anything cold, give me ice. Yes, I want a drink cold, and if I'm going to be forced to shove down awful water, I want that water to be cold. So gift correct.

01:07:50
Speaker 3: I love ice. It is a fascinating phenomenon that the United States seems to be the only place that puts ice in.

01:07:55
Speaker 2: It does seem to be, Yes, it does seem to be.

01:07:57
Speaker 3: We love an ice cold drink, but cold roomed. I have like grown to like a room temperature water, but I always prefer an ice water.

01:08:07
Speaker 2: And I as much as I do want my eyes. I also when I get my diet coke and McDonald's, I will say light ice please, because I do get a little pissy bridger when I get three quarters of a cup of ice and I'm done with that drink that could have been soda exactly, So I do light ice please, And you know they're thinking, you cheap fucker, but I'm sorry. I want to enjoy that diet coke and I want as much of it as I can get.

01:08:32
Speaker 3: I do that with cold brew. I always say light right ice please makes sense sense. I don't want more ice than I need.

01:08:39
Speaker 2: So I'm already correct no matter what else happened.

01:08:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you can. I mean you can walk away having failed.

01:08:46
Speaker 2: Yes, well, welcome to my world.

01:08:50
Speaker 3: Okay. Number two this is from a listener named Amanda gif to a curse old men at the gym working out in jeans.

01:08:56
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. I can say this because I'm one of them. I am an old man. I'm sixty two years old now, which shocks me every day, like I still feel like I'm twenty and just stupid, but I'm not. And here's what happens with old men at the gym now, I don't do jeans, but I'll do my shorts whatever. And here's what else I don't do that old men seem to want to do at the gym. I don't walk around naked in the gym because your balls are sagging to your knees and nobody needs to see it. Now, I just again, I keep saying, just came back from Europe where I'm on a beach and people don't care, and there's balls hanging and there's boobs flapping, and God blessed, they're probably mentally better off than I could ever be, because that's human. It's called being human. Balls sag on men, boob sag on women. As we get older, this is everything. Everything SAgs, asses, sag at all SAgs. So I find it to just be like, it makes me chuckle a little, and I feel better than because I don't wear jeans and I am one of them. So I'm proud of myself. So I'm gonna say no, so curse, right, is that my curse? Curse?

01:10:07
Speaker 3: Oh Jim, it's a gift.

01:10:10
Speaker 2: Okay, If it's a gift, here's the only explanation I think you're gonna come up with, because it's not a gift.

01:10:15
Speaker 3: Take that you're war we're not coming up with anything. I'm going to share a truth.

01:10:19
Speaker 2: Could it be? Could it be because I know what I look like. I'm in shorts right now as we speak. I don't think I didn't catch an le's eyeing me. I know, I know, I get it. Hey, I don't blame it. You're human. Uh she sees this package going on here.

01:10:32
Speaker 3: We're all looking at these shorts.

01:10:33
Speaker 2: We're all looking. We see we say how it's cupping the buttocks. We get it, we get it. But maybe because you know, skin gets funkier as we get older and stuff like. Otherwise, explain to me how pants are a good thing.

01:10:47
Speaker 3: Jeans at the gym look incredible. Everybody jeans at the gym.

01:10:53
Speaker 2: It's get Let me put a pair of jeans for you right now, and you tell me that looks incredible. No, I I would like judge in here because I'm feeling. I'm feeling this is you're.

01:11:03
Speaker 3: Looking at a baby. Damn it. Jeans of the gym. Everybody loves it. Gives us something to talk about.

01:11:09
Speaker 2: Well it does. Well, guess I'll give you that. It gives you something to talk about.

01:11:13
Speaker 3: And it's something. You know, you go into the gym, everybody's looking incredible, and then you know it balances the scales. Somebody's working out in their jeans, It's like, what what is going on?

01:11:22
Speaker 2: Yes, when you're miserable on the treadmill, you can look and think in your head, oh my god, what is happening over there? And yes, it makes a minute go by that this drudgery, it makes a little less painful.

01:11:33
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there should be more denim at the gym.

01:11:35
Speaker 2: I disagree, but we will agree to disagree.

01:11:37
Speaker 3: Well, you don't get the point, you're not going to get it.

01:11:40
Speaker 2: And how much per point? I forgot? How much is what is the price?

01:11:43
Speaker 3: A billion?

01:11:43
Speaker 2: Damn it?

01:11:44
Speaker 3: So you're you've got a billion points?

01:11:46
Speaker 2: I got a billion? Okay, okay, and I can turn those.

01:11:49
Speaker 3: In for those we're working on a program.

01:11:53
Speaker 2: How that turns out.

01:11:55
Speaker 3: We're trying to get the app together.

01:11:57
Speaker 2: Here's a Golden Girls mask.

01:12:01
Speaker 3: Okay, number three, this is your chance for a little bit bit of redemption. This is from a listener named and I'm so sorry. I r A N n v E I g ron vig. It feels very Scandinavian to me, it does. Ron vig ron vigue, my apologies, Ronnie. Gift or a curse? Clouds drifting in front of the sun in the sky?

01:12:24
Speaker 2: I live in La So I screamed that that's a gift. I screamed that that's a gift because you get moments of release from the intense sun, the intense heat. So for me, Jim O'Hare now, so maybe because you're being very weird about these answers, so I need maybe I need to base this not just on my thoughts, but on how the world would think. And I'm going to think for the world now, Bridger, and I'm going to say, damn it, the world agrees with me. And it's a good thing. Clouds are good. That's where I'm going. I'll fight you one to the death on this one.

01:13:05
Speaker 3: You've got one billion out of three billion?

01:13:09
Speaker 2: How is that occur?

01:13:10
Speaker 3: It's a curse. Clouds have the entire sky to be It's a desperate move on cloud's part. The sun. Let the yes. Let the sun do its thing. The clouds you've got everywhere you can possibly be, Let the sun do its thing.

01:13:26
Speaker 2: It's a combo. It's an the sky the clouds friendly.

01:13:30
Speaker 3: No, the sun has got to have its own private space in the sky.

01:13:34
Speaker 2: Damn you, Bridger.

01:13:35
Speaker 3: I need to be able to look directly at the sun whenever I want.

01:13:39
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, okay, I mean you are out of your mind and I am going to file agrievance. At least who is there a form? Who do I is? There is there hr department here that would be me? That would God? Who side do you want on this?

01:13:54
Speaker 3: Only time will tell a last look at me? Look the lace.

01:13:59
Speaker 2: Damn it. I think I know where she's gonna fall out.

01:14:01
Speaker 3: Oh well, I hate to hear you fail so badly.

01:14:06
Speaker 2: Just so you know, I'll go to I will sleep tonight with my head soundly on that pillow, knowing I was three for three. Now you can judge at how you will, but you are in correct. I will say you were true to.

01:14:16
Speaker 3: Who you are.

01:14:17
Speaker 2: I am true to who I am.

01:14:18
Speaker 3: You know you've believed in yourself and that there is something in that. It's not a win, but it is something.

01:14:23
Speaker 2: It's something.

01:14:24
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's move on. This is the final segment of the podcast. This is called I Said no emails. People write into I Said No gifts at gmail dot com begging for answers to all of life's problems, all kinds of things. Well, you help me answer a question.

01:14:38
Speaker 2: Sure I can. I'm very smart. I played doctors on televisions, I played lawyers. I'm an idiot in real life, but I have played those characters.

01:14:46
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, let's get into this. It says, dearest Bridger and guest. Every year, one of my friends hosts a small and lovely Halloween party. Okay, I don't have any friends like that. She has let me know that this year she's asking everyone in attendance to take part in a secret Satan gift exchange, where we'll all give each other Halloween themed gifts. Since I've been given this information early, I want to be prepared any ideas for gifts I could contribute to. The monetary limit on any exchanges is usually capped at fifteen dollars because we're all poor grad students. Sure your time and help is appreciated. Take care, Chloe. Interesting, this is an interesting.

01:15:29
Speaker 2: That is interesting. I like, I love a party. I'm not a dress up guy, so generally Halloween is like a bit of a pain in the ass if there's a dress up party. But I do think like a secret Sanna is always fun, So I'm guessing this would be fun also. Okay, so I do like that thought. Boy, where can you get a finger? Like, just a finger that doesn't seem too hard to get in a box. Just put a finger in a box? No, for fifteen bucks? What can you get?

01:15:58
Speaker 3: I mean, if you probably could get a finger for fifteen depending on which part of town you're in.

01:16:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it could.

01:16:03
Speaker 3: I mean, and you also have ten of your own you do if you really want to commit to this little project, you can do at home.

01:16:09
Speaker 2: And it's free if you have good insurance, because insurance will cover the sutures. And you're giving this gift, yeah, under fifteen bucks. I don't know.

01:16:17
Speaker 3: I mean my thought, I'm seeing the word satan. Yeah, and I'm seeing it's got to be cheap. I'm thinking anytime I'm at an estate sale, I'm thinking, every object here is haunted. Find in a state sale, interesting, find in a state sale by any item there, it will be haunted. And then that that's the gift. It's such a beautiful obviously, look for something that looks a little spooky, right.

01:16:41
Speaker 2: I don't like the shop and to me and the state sale is shopping and we've gone over this. I couldn't do it.

01:16:46
Speaker 3: Look as snooping.

01:16:47
Speaker 2: I like snooping.

01:16:49
Speaker 3: That's kind of how I look at the state sales.

01:16:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to open a cabinet in the bathroom, of course, if they have some you know, pills there whatever. Don't judge me. Um yeah, that nobody. You're right. You just say this is from a haunted because you don't know what's haunted or what's not. Absolutely said, I could take something from any one of my drawers and say it's from somewhere. No one knows what the hell I've done.

01:17:12
Speaker 3: But the feeling will be there, the evil feeling.

01:17:14
Speaker 2: Will be the premise of the evening. Yeah, yeah, that's great.

01:17:18
Speaker 3: You've got to bring something evil into this exchange.

01:17:21
Speaker 2: I like to think I bring my personality, and that is evil, pure pure.

01:17:26
Speaker 3: That's kind of what you're known as, kind of demonic figure. Yes, I mean calling upon a demon is always free as well.

01:17:33
Speaker 2: Don't say beetlejuice three times time.

01:17:35
Speaker 3: Don't do it, bloody Mary.

01:17:37
Speaker 2: Oh I used to do that.

01:17:38
Speaker 3: Oh I love you, yes, yes.

01:17:40
Speaker 2: And I'd steer in that mirror. We had a little in the house I grew up, and we had a tiny, one, tiny little guest bathroom, and I would just steer in that mirror and just scare the shit out of myself.

01:17:51
Speaker 3: But I never got to a visit.

01:17:53
Speaker 2: You know, I never did either, But I was sure sometimes because if you close your eyes really tight and open them fast, your own reflection scarcely right, because you're not exactly sure what you're seeing for that brief moment.

01:18:02
Speaker 3: And that's a great failing. Yeah, I feel like that's a great thing. Is a Wiji board fifteen dollars?

01:18:07
Speaker 2: Maybe? Oh?

01:18:09
Speaker 3: Really, you got a coupon?

01:18:10
Speaker 2: Maybe a coupon that. I think they're going to be more than that.

01:18:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're probably ninety nine nineteen. I would have even thought more so, nineteen ninety nine. It is not that's only five dollars more. Nobody's got to know that she's.

01:18:23
Speaker 2: Twenty bucks to talk to the dead. That's not bad. Oh, that's a credit, is a you know what it costs me to have a good phone plan from Europe back here? That was way more than twenty bucks. Of course, I talk to the dead nineteen ninety five. I'm on board.

01:18:39
Speaker 3: Are you scared of Satan?

01:18:41
Speaker 2: I'm actually a Catholic, A practicing Catholic, and not that I go to church every week, but I am a Catholic guy and was raised that way and fell away and then came back and all that stuff. But I'm not I'm what they call a cafeteria Catholic, right. I believe what I believe, and I don't believe the stuff I don't want to believe. I'm I'm very pro birth control. I'm very pro LGBTQ. I don't care who mary, have a good time, be safe. I'm pro whatever can something adults are involved in. I'm all on board with that. Uh. That being said, I don't believe in Satan, Okay, I just don't. I think it's a way to keep people controlled. Which people could say, well, religion is a way to keep people controlled, and that's probably that could absolutely be true. I certainly have my doubts about certain things. Who knows. I mean, we're supposed to believe an arc carried two of every animal and then the earth was flooded by a wonderful God who loves us, but he killed all these people on the earth.

01:19:37
Speaker 3: And so anyway, there's a lot of bad days.

01:19:39
Speaker 2: We all have bad days. Yes, Oh, I hate when God has bad days. It just really isn't good for us. No, but I have faith. I believe there's something after this. I believe when my time comes, which I'm hoping, I assume before midnight.

01:19:51
Speaker 3: Tonight, I'm going to attack you in the parking.

01:19:55
Speaker 2: No, I would think my heart will go by then. I would imagine.

01:19:59
Speaker 3: No, Oh, God, that doesn't happen enough, I know. Do we have your permission to release you?

01:20:06
Speaker 2: Yes? You do have my permission, So that will be good for this podcast this. Yes. Not if I get in a carre accent. That doesn't count. Only if it's a heart attack. No, but I do believe there'll be people waiting for me on the other side, my parents and loved ones. It's lovely and that gives me peace. And if I'm wrong, I'll never know. I'll never know. Just lights will be out. So uh. I have a dear friend who's he runs a whole skeptic organization. They're atheists and everything, and and I always hate them. I win because I get peace from this, I get solitude, and I think that my dying day comes, there will be knowing. Okay, this is sad, but I'm about to know. He doesn't have that and so I win. Ha ha ha. An adult man just said on your show, ha ha ha ha ha ha and can you can you leat that please?

01:21:00
Speaker 3: I know, okay, volume up, I want an echo effect put on it. Let's really maybe some auto tune. Let's juice that piece of audience.

01:21:10
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not?

01:21:12
Speaker 3: Okay? Well, I think Chloe's gotten her answer. A finger, a haunted item, just simply an evil attitude something like that is a perfect thing to take to a party. Oh or some you know, evil shaped.

01:21:24
Speaker 2: Cookie, scream into a box and say in this box is a screen.

01:21:30
Speaker 3: That's a great It's I.

01:21:31
Speaker 2: Mean, how scary is that?

01:21:32
Speaker 3: So many things you can do at home, So many things just got to get crafted.

01:21:35
Speaker 2: Yep. I know what one guy was doing when I was talking to him on the phone. See, that's called a callback bridger. Now, as a experience improvisational actor, I can handle a callback. Now the listeners who aren't experience I'd be like, what is he talking about? What is happening here? But that is called a callback. That's called brilliant comedy. Or some would just say sad. So that will be up to the listener.

01:22:00
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, Jim, I've had such a wonderful and I've got a diet coke for two and it's.

01:22:07
Speaker 2: The big one in the plastic job.

01:22:10
Speaker 3: And I've got your book to read, and I've got I'm prepared for any COVID surges.

01:22:15
Speaker 2: Again, I heard something I don't know. I read something always I don't know something going on.

01:22:21
Speaker 3: Oh, I can wear this while watching my gals, The Golden Girls.

01:22:25
Speaker 2: The Golden Girls.

01:22:26
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being a delightful time and listener. Look, we made it through the podcast, you know, in the new studio. I hope that you were able to remain calm. I was able to do a decent job. I think we can all say I got an A plus.

01:22:45
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, might cut off now because I'd like to interject on that. Oh now, listener, the podcast is over.

01:22:52
Speaker 3: We have to end the audio now. I love you, I said. No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Coottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts I invit?

01:23:32
Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear? But you're a guest to me. You gotta come to me empty And I said, no guests, your presences, presents and I'm already too much stuff.

01:23:57
Speaker 3: So how did you?

01:23:59
Speaker 1: Dadsy me