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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noel.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are

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Speaker 4: here that makes this the stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 4: to know. Welcome, friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realist to

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Speaker 4: our weekly listener mail where we get to hear from

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Speaker 4: the best part of the show, which is indeed you.

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Speaker 3: Let us be the first to welcome you to Thursday.

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Speaker 4: May the eighth, twenty twenty five quick question, and we

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Speaker 4: spent some time hanging out before we start rolling. You guys,

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Speaker 4: did edy of us see that constant meme with Justin

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Speaker 4: Timberlake saying it's gonna be mad my.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be my? Yes?

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Speaker 5: And have you also seen the incredible clip where he

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Speaker 5: in his solo career days, does the most cringey white

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Speaker 3: Dylan knows Dylan is this like is this like a

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Speaker 3: Mickey Mouse era? No, no, no, it's unfortunately no.

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Speaker 5: It is post in sync in his solo career, and

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Speaker 5: he does this bomb check a boum wow kind of

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Speaker 3: Like he's old enough to like rent a car.

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Speaker 5: Part of his concert performance, and it gets punked on

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Speaker 5: quite often on the Oh boy.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's tough to work in entertainment, as you guys know.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That is true.

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Speaker 2: I've been listening to a lot of the Lonely Island

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Speaker 2: Seth Meyer's podcast and they talk about justin a lot

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Speaker 2: because of his involvement in the shorts and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 2: I'm I I've rekindled my appreciation of that guy on screen.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, the comedic timing unparalleled, you know, super great in

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Speaker 4: a box is up there with crimea River.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, just in a song strut, just be real, let's

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Speaker 3: just go all the way back. It's it's better than Beethoven.

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Speaker 4: Screw that guy overrated also went death Beethoven.

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Speaker 3: True, that's true. Sorry, just a really quick I saw

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Speaker 3: an incredible video. I hope this is true.

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Speaker 5: I am just reporting this having seen it and reporting

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Speaker 5: it as though it were true. But apparently Beethoven, when

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Speaker 5: he went deaf, he had a device that essentially was

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Speaker 5: essentially bypassed his actual ears and reached his inner ears directly,

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Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty incredible, and then a.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a technology we used to use back in

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Speaker 4: the day, right, because vibration is sound, right, and this

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Speaker 4: is an excellent setup for some of the things we're

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Speaker 4: going to discuss this evening. We are going to uh,

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Speaker 4: maybe talk a little bit about melungeons. We're definitely gonna

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Speaker 4: follow up on how to steal a ton of meat

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Speaker 4: maybe bust some speculation about serial killers.

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Speaker 3: Before we do any of that, we're going to take a.

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Speaker 4: Pause for a word from our sponsors, and we're going

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Speaker 4: to get back into the science of sound.

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Speaker 6: Sound And we have returned, and I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: start off today, thanks guys, with a topic that is

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Speaker 6: near and dear to all of us and very much

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Speaker 5: Anything music related, music history related, and music technology. Related

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Speaker 5: and also Satanic panic related. We've talked a bit recently

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Speaker 5: of just a few weeks ago, talking about different backmasking examples.

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Speaker 5: Are they real, are they unintentional? Is it a coincidence

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Speaker 5: or or you know, is Judas Priest actually trying to

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Speaker 5: And this is an individual who writes to us quite

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Speaker 5: Justin as part of the live show Revolution number nine,

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Speaker 5: which is one of the first clips I believe we reference,

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Speaker 5: I recorded it both ways, so cool, and it actually

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Speaker 5: Christian bands Petra. Interestingly enough, as the intro to their

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Speaker 5: song Judas Kiss used a clear backward phrase when played

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Speaker 3: I don't know, cheeky blaspheme.

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Speaker 5: Let's just call it right, isn't the idea of a

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Speaker 3: Guys, is that maybe where where that name comes from?

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Speaker 5: The Judas being the one who betrayed Jesus and a

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Speaker 3: I reckon, it's really good wordplay. It's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did Judas not kiss Jesus?

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Speaker 5: one of the most public cases of backmasking that involved

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Speaker 5: an actual lawsuit. The idea was that Judas Priest hid

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your honor may I approached the bench absolutely, okay,

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Speaker 4: side so right sidebar here just between us millions of

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Speaker 4: don't want to diminish that. But it also seems that

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Speaker 4: this kind of moral panic over the concept of backmasking

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Speaker 4: is enticing to the public because it requires you to

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Speaker 4: participate in puzzle solving. Right now, you're figuring this out. Yeah, yeah, paradilia.

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Speaker 4: So to your to your note about just do it

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Speaker 4: right with Judas Priests, If that were true, if like

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Speaker 4: a publicly consumable product could make people, as you say,

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Speaker 4: and Nikes.

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Speaker 3: I was kidding.

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Speaker 5: Just do it and that's right out there front center

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Speaker 3: All their stuff is. But you don't have to crack

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Speaker 3: The question there becomes it's so much subtext. Where do it?

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Speaker 3: Do it? Do it? I mean, do what like? I mean?

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Speaker 5: There's nothing in there even suggested that is specific about

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Speaker 5: almost like by the very nature of it being hidden,

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Speaker 5: it is somehow nefarious, right, but it being out there

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Speaker 5: advertising is all about subliminal messages, and it's all about

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Speaker 4: Ben Oh also credit where due Let us not forget

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Speaker 4: that sketch is the ideation of our own mister Matt Frederick.

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Speaker 5: and I hope everyone enjoyed it. So going on, Judas

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Speaker 5: When played backwards, is intended to shame the Satanic panic people.

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Speaker 5: Kind of trying to find the devil in anything is

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Speaker 5: You're going places that William Blake. Toward the end of

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Speaker 5: He must have a connection with these folks. Any of

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Speaker 5: I thought it must might be a fun opportunity just

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Speaker 4: Well, far be it for us to cast any aspersion

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Speaker 4: Oh well, nice structure on that, would know. Also, you

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Speaker 4: There it is, pay it backwards, Dylan.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna say that Dylan Fagan looks a little

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Speaker 3: He does look a little bit like Jesus totally.

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Speaker 2: Like if he cleaned up and had a guitar. We're embarrassing, Uh,

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Speaker 4: By the way I saw those musician Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Your response be, Oh, I think this, I just this

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Speaker 2: And we've returned to guys, and guess what what what

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Speaker 2: we have the meats. We are gonna go full meat

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Speaker 2: in this section of the show, Prepare yourselves. The meat

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Speaker 3: Naw boy rdep No, Okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Well do you know his last name and we know

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Speaker 8: Heck yeah, fella's Chef Ben in Chicago. Listening to your

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Speaker 8: Always here for a heist. This is me officially saying

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Speaker 8: A couples about that, first off, unless it's fresh shellfish,

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Yay, we love Chicago. Thank yeah, thanks Chef Ben, Chef Ben.

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Speaker 4: I love Chef Chef Ben, and I hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 4: the joke we we cracked in commiseration with you earlier.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 4: Also, clearly, Matt Nol, I am biased. I have a

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Speaker 2: Was early April. Ben, you brought us the story correct.

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Speaker 4: Our early like I remember, our question was how do

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Speaker 3: What do you do to meet with all this meat? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: update yet to what happened. There around three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars worth of meat take and this concept

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Speaker 2: where do you take it? How do you do it?

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Speaker 2: How organized is this as a crime?

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Speaker 3: Go?

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Speaker 2: If you go back to the twenty twenty two to one,

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Speaker 2: there were three men in Florida who got sentenced for

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Speaker 2: stealing semi truckloads of frozen beef and pork from six states.

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Speaker 2: There were forty five total thefts totaling nine million dollars

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Speaker 2: in loss, and it was it was basically a huge,

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Speaker 2: almost rico case for these guys in Florida.

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Speaker 3: Like nine million dollars worth or yes, like.

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Speaker 2: That, forty five thefts nine million dollars and.

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Speaker 4: You brought that story. I just want to give credit

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Speaker 4: where it's do there met You have one of my

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Speaker 4: favorite internal titles. You called it grand theft carne.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, quite clever, yes, oh yes, every

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Speaker 2: once in a while I could make it happen.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about you have? Mine was clever fellows,

458
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Speaker 3: I know, but yeah, you're pretty great at it.

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Speaker 2: But then, so this is all where we're all thinking

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Speaker 2: about this together now because we just talked about it

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Speaker 2: again recently. So another person called in with some information

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Speaker 2: that then ties kind of these two things together, and

463
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Speaker 2: especially this concept of what do you do with it?

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Speaker 2: How does it work? How organized is it? So let's

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Speaker 2: go to this gentleman. I'll uh, I'll let him tell

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Speaker 2: us his name.

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, this is a fast watch of stunt, double

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Speaker 7: strange news you guys did about the meat stuff that's

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Speaker 7: actually really common I'm in the trucking industry, and food

470
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Speaker 7: is stolen all the time because it's untraceable and easy

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Speaker 7: to turn over.

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Speaker 8: So oftentimes for.

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Speaker 7: Like all Front Podegas, small family run market. One of

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Speaker 7: the markets nearby where I used to live was a

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Speaker 7: Mexican market and they were receiving all kinds of stolen

476
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Speaker 7: food and meat things like that without even knowing. People

477
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Speaker 7: set up fake trucking companies all the time, or they'll

478
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Speaker 7: set up fake bills or fake dispatches to real truckers,

479
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Speaker 7: get them to go pick it up and offload someplace weird,

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Speaker 7: and there's truckers that actually in the jail over the

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Speaker 7: whole thing. If you guys want to check out some

482
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Speaker 7: more information on it. There's a really good podcasts called

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Speaker 7: The nut Job, which talks about a almond heist in

484
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Speaker 7: California where the trucker that picked up a bunch of

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Speaker 7: almonds turned out to be fake bill and it was

486
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Speaker 7: stolen almonds and he went to GYP.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, whoa Sasquatch's stunt double sasquatches stunt double perfect?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Ten? Ten no notes.

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Speaker 4: I hope that is your legal name on your birth certificate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the really important thing is that Sasquatch's

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Speaker 2: stunt double is kind of reinforcing something that Chef Benz

492
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Speaker 2: said to us, which is, maybe, you know, Chef ben says,

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Speaker 2: maybe the people buying the meat don't really care that

494
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Speaker 2: much where it came from. But then he kind of

495
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Speaker 2: reinforces that, saying, you know, some of these smaller family businesses,

496
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Speaker 2: you've just got cheaper meat so you can actually make

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Speaker 2: you know, more of a profit on the things you're

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Speaker 2: trying to sell. Especially if you're a smaller business, it

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Speaker 2: just makes sense. And you may have no idea that

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Speaker 2: anything has gone wrong, that there's any wrongdoing whatsoever, but

501
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Speaker 2: you are still able to run your business right.

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Speaker 4: Especially in both restaurants and mom and pop retail stores,

503
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Speaker 4: there's such a razor thin margin of survival, right, let

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Speaker 4: them out profitability. And and what I love about these points, guys,

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Speaker 4: is that we're not saying people are knowingly participating in

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Speaker 4: some kind of criminal activity or being And know you

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Speaker 4: were in my head for a second both said meat fence. Yes,

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Speaker 4: people people aren't knowingly consenting to be you know, quote

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Speaker 4: unquote meat fencers, but they are maybe folks who know

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Speaker 4: a guy who has.

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Speaker 3: That's another thing entirely. It's like a sport where you

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Speaker 3: fight with meat meat fencing.

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Speaker 5: You know, we had a whole one hand behind your

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Speaker 5: back and you just slap each other mistakes.

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Speaker 4: I've also pictory you also to get a fence built

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Speaker 4: for your house. Maybe some guys like, yeah, wood prices

517
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Speaker 4: are through the roof, but we can make you a fence.

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Speaker 2: Let's pork this fence.

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Speaker 3: Let's make it work. Let's pork this fence. We get

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Speaker 3: more to get to.

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Speaker 2: Just a little aside here listening to Sasquatch's stunt double

522
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Speaker 2: talk about the nut job another podcast. I had never

523
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Speaker 2: heard of that before, but the idea of an almond

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Speaker 2: heist also kind of new to me. There is an

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Speaker 2: entire Wikipedia entry for quote California nut crimes.

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Speaker 9: California nut crimes, the name of our new state, by

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Speaker 9: the way, production by Dylan Fagan aka Street Jesus, California Nutcrimes.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting to just a moment on that aside,

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Speaker 4: because technically speaking, right, almonds are a very thirsty crop

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Speaker 4: to grow. California has a lot of problems with water security,

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Speaker 4: so you could argue that that an almond heist is

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Speaker 4: getting close to what we in a few years or decades,

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Speaker 4: hence we'll call water crimes.

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Speaker 3: They're on the way man, totally.

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Speaker 5: We've talked about it before and I think you nailed it, Ben,

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Speaker 5: mm hmm, that nas at all?

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Speaker 3: What is it? Aquault? Is it Aquacola?

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Speaker 7: Ye?

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Speaker 4: Start start by watching Babe film, right, and then get

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Speaker 4: up the Fury road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and eventually Death of a Unicorn, which was great.

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Speaker 2: Watch it last night.

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Speaker 3: It was good. You liked it.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it very I want to see it. I'm

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Speaker 3: excited to see it. I want to see something. I

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Speaker 3: want to hear some more meat heist.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, first first we have to we have to

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Speaker 2: hear a description of meat fencing from our own Dylan

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Powell. Yes, put it in the chat.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, with great with great affection.

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Speaker 4: Uh, Dylan says, So two fencers with one of those

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Speaker 4: big euro meat cones in the middle, and they're slicing

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Speaker 4: it from either side.

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Speaker 2: You whoa that impression?

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Speaker 4: No, okay, it's just a different voice, just going with

557
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Speaker 4: a gentle delivery.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 5: So they're slicing it, it's it's in the center. And

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Speaker 5: it's a slicing competition.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but with fencing swords.

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Speaker 5: With fencing sword which don't have an edge, by the

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Speaker 5: really hard to slice meats, there is a saber that

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Speaker 5: is a separate event within you could use, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: a meat saber which definitely isn't a euphemism for nanny.

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Speaker 3: Do it as a whisper a whisper.

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Speaker 2: Well, Dylan just says, so, gentle, that's how you got it.

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Speaker 2: You do it with your fencing.

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Speaker 3: Swords, So gentle, got it.

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Speaker 2: You let the turning of the what are those machines?

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Speaker 2: You let the turning on the machine work for you.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeh yeah. Okay guys. One last

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Speaker 2: message here from a person calling us from Canada who

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Speaker 2: just has a little bit.

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Speaker 5: More info and thanks for still being our friends Canadian listening.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you being a Yeah, we love you. That's

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Speaker 3: very clear, Yes we do.

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Speaker 5: We are not a party to the negative talk towards

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Speaker 5: your country.

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Speaker 2: Here's our message.

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Speaker 8: Greeting denizens of the boy.

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Speaker 10: This is token Canucks. Just wanted to give you a

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Speaker 10: little insight into something that's going on in relation to

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Speaker 10: the meat heist story that you recently spoke about on

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Speaker 10: a news segment where eighty thousand pounds of beef were

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Speaker 10: stolen by a fraudulent trucking company. This isn't something unique

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Speaker 10: to meet or a specific industry. This is actually a

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Speaker 10: huge problem right now with people in the luxury and

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Speaker 10: exotic car industry. Someone will purchase a car from a

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Speaker 10: reputable dealership, new or use, you know, they need to

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Speaker 10: have a ship to them. They may be across the country,

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Speaker 10: they may be a couple of states away. Distance doesn't

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Speaker 10: really matter. But what happens is these vehicles are sent

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Speaker 10: to what's called central Dispatch, which basically just subcontracts out

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Speaker 10: shipping of the vehicles to a number of trucking companies.

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Speaker 10: Some of these trucking companies are fronts for organized crime,

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Speaker 10: and expensive vehicles end up in places like Mexico or

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Speaker 10: the Middle East or countries where they're a lot harder

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Speaker 10: to get a hold of. So the dealership is out

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Speaker 10: of car, the person who purchased the cars out of car,

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Speaker 10: and the criminals are getting away with it. This is

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Speaker 10: rampant right now. It's a huge issue, and if you

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Speaker 10: do a little bit of digging, you'll see lots of

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Speaker 10: interesting stories about what's going on. And where these cars

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Speaker 10: end up anyway, Thanks for the great show, and I

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Speaker 10: appreciate everything you guys do to warm people about interesting

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Speaker 10: goings on in the world.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Boom.

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Speaker 5: What a quintessentially Canadian voice. I love everything about that.

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Speaker 5: That warmed my heart. Thank you and just a lovely

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Speaker 5: human person. Thank you very much for calling well.

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Speaker 2: I just love that we're having our perspective expanded out

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Speaker 2: or changed enough to where we're thinking about cars in

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Speaker 2: this way and fake bills of laden or lading lately,

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Speaker 2: and just you know, front companies, front trucking companies, all

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. It's just all happening around. It's

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Speaker 2: not just affecting meat. I don't know, maybe there's more

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Speaker 2: to even discover in a big episode guys about maybe

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Speaker 2: front another front companies type episode, because I know we've

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Speaker 2: talked about them several times, but maybe there's something in there.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a stuff they don't want you to

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Speaker 4: know about trucking. Many evenings go in the car stuff evenings.

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Speaker 4: We had an episode about the proliferation of dodgy exotic

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Speaker 4: cars in the Middle East and specific and I want

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Speaker 4: to be careful about saying too much. You can check

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Speaker 4: out the episode if you wish to learn more. All

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Speaker 4: to say, I think we're in consensus on like every

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Speaker 4: caller we just had has clearly acknowledged the possibility, plausibility

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Speaker 4: and operation of front companies, especially in trucking.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, it's a joke even

632
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Speaker 5: and like shows like The Sopranos, the idea of it

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Speaker 5: fell off a truck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Guys. Last two things to

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Speaker 2: bring up. Number one from September twenty twenty four in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: four men got arrested in a thing called Operation Beef

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Speaker 2: Bandites Christ, which is.

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Speaker 3: Stuff there goes my tender.

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Speaker 5: Also that's what it says in the profile.

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Speaker 2: It says.

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Speaker 3: Also not Aphi love that.

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Speaker 2: In this one it was fully organized crime happening on

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Speaker 2: the Jersey Turnpike where tractor trailers were being stolen or

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Speaker 2: stuff was being taken out of trailers while the driver slept,

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Speaker 2: which is really interesting. And then another one, guys, a

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Speaker 2: man in Ohio was just found guilty recently. This was

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Speaker 2: written in April ninth. He had a role in a

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Speaker 2: crime ring, a full on crime ring stole more than

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty thousand dollars worth of meat, liquor, cigarettes,

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Speaker 2: and cash from delivery trucks in Ohio. And the last thing,

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Speaker 2: just I thought this was interesting for us guys. This

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Speaker 2: person in Euclid, Ohio. The jury found him guilty of

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Speaker 2: engaging in a quote pattern of corrupt activity, grand theft,

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Speaker 2: auto and two counts of felony theft. Here's the interesting part.

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Speaker 2: Engaging in a quote pattern of corrupt activity is Ohio's

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Speaker 2: version of the Rico Statute, the organized crime thing. But

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Speaker 2: it's that specific term, a pattern of corrupt activity, which

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Speaker 2: I thought was just an interesting language to.

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Speaker 3: Apply to that, and they want to build a precedent.

660
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, well then using that to you know, really throw

661
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: the book at somebody. Okay, that's it for now. Thanks

662
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: everybody for calling in about meat. There are many more

663
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: of you who called in and wrote in about the

664
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: whole meat thing, but specific thanks to Chef Ben Sasquatches,

665
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: Stunt Double and Token Kanuk. Will be right back with

666
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: more messages from y'all.

667
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: And we have returned.

668
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: Fellow conspiracy realist. We want to begin by thanking everyone

669
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: who wrote to us about some incredibly troubly We want

670
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: to thank in sickness, we want to thank a lot

671
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: of our friends and neighbors on our Facebook page. Here's

672
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 4: where it gets crazy, everyone who reached out to us

673
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: on Instagram or social media platforms of their choice. Gentlemen,

674
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: you perhaps have heard the scuttle butt and speculation about

675
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: a possible serial killer actively operating in the New England region.

676
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: Indeed, yeah, we got heard rumblings.

677
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: Were on the Tenderfoot side. We were trying to discern

678
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: if anything actually was real going on there, any of

679
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: it had any sand Have we got a message from

680
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: somebody that knows more or what do you think?

681
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: We have a lot of questions a lot of people.

682
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: As we record this evening Friday, May second, twenty twenty five,

683
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: local law enforcement in the area that we in the

684
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 4: US roughly called New England. They are investigating the discovery

685
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 4: of eleven bodies, eleven dead human beings found in the

686
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 4: area and this has ignited fears of a potential operating

687
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: serial killer. As we know, many serial killers are mispetrayed

688
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: in film and fiction and popular media. Most of the

689
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: serial killers that are apprehended are kind of spiraling. They're

690
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: not great at their jobs, right. So we have a

691
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: very we have a very small sample size, right, we

692
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: catch the ones who beat me here, Dylan, we catch

693
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: the ones job. And the issue is that, because there's

694
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: there's this weird lionization of serial murders in the US

695
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: in specific, especially like post Gacy, post Bundan era, we

696
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 4: have this cultural thing where we always want to figure

697
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: out whether.

698
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: Or not there is a serial killer.

699
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: So right now, not just in Sickness, but many other

700
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: folks who wrote to us, we're going to protect their anonymity.

701
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: They're quite concerned that there may be something some nefarious

702
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: activity occurring, similar to what we talked about with the

703
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: our series on Uncaught serial Killers right as a three parter,

704
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 4: similar to our earlier conversation about dodgy murders and cadaver

705
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: discoveries out in the Austin area. It's oh and of

706
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: course the Manchester pusher.

707
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Right.

708
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: So there there clearly is a reason people are concerned.

709
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: Did a little bit of digging on this, and it

710
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 4: looks like we can safely say, as far as all.

711
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Speaker 3: Right, this is my opinion.

712
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, guys, As far as we can tell now, it

713
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: does not appear that there is an active serial killer

714
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: responsible for these specific bodies discovered.

715
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's over ten, like twelve people, right.

716
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean definitely leads one to think that something

717
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 5: like that might be going on.

718
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how do you group them together?

719
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: That is right, because news is saying eleven and then

720
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: other people are saying twelve. If you go to the

721
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: New England sk page on Facebook, which is pretty complicated,

722
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: there are people who are saying, look, these different murders

723
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: are linked, right because they occurred in a relatively discrete

724
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: window of time. I'd love to talk with Tenderfoot about this,

725
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: and they occur within a relatively distinct region. Yet how

726
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: do we define the time, right, how do we define

727
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: the region? How do we define the demographic, the manner

728
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 4: of death? All that stuff, right, all the really boring

729
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: stuff that people don't often listen to.

730
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Speaker 3: We know that there have been.

731
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Speaker 4: A series of bodies discovered between March and April, primarily

732
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Speaker 4: in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island, right, classic New England.

733
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Massachusetts is the more recent findings,

734
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Speaker 2: but it was definitely Connecticut and Rhode Island, which are

735
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: you know, directly connected to each other by a border,

736
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Speaker 2: which makes you think, okay, well that's you know, that's

737
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: definitely an area. And then Massachusetts is just north of

738
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: those in north and to the east. So it does

739
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: make you think, oh, well, that is one pretty specific

740
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: area of the United States.

741
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: Sure.

742
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: Yes, And we also have to remember the United States

743
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: for now is cartoonishly huge, you know what I mean.

744
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 4: So if you look at the if you look at

745
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Speaker 4: the confluence of New York State to Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island,

746
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: what you're going to see is a map of bodies discovered, right.

747
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 4: But we're not counting every dead body found in Massachusetts

748
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: where we're in Rhode Islands or in Connecticut. We're counting

749
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 4: bodies found in a window of time, right, and that's it.

750
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: We're not counting things like specific cause of death, we're

751
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: not counting specific demographics other than largely female identifying. It

752
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: just it feels like people are speculating wildly, and it

753
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: feels like it might make things more difficul for law enforcement.

754
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: I do agree. But a lot of the bodies are

755
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: found along the coast, like really close to the coast.

756
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: They're all along that border that goes you know, if

757
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: you're thinking about Boston right from.

758
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: Like Stamford up to Boston through Plymouth.

759
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so going all around the coast there. So

760
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, the mind wanders, right, especially if there's a

761
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: lot of speculation going on about maybe this is somebody

762
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: operating via boat or you know, someone who's actually traveling

763
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: along the coast not actually by land, and that kind

764
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: of thing. There's all that kind of stuff that floats

765
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Speaker 2: around your mind.

766
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Speaker 4: I suppose all logical questions, right, all stuff we have

767
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: to answer. We may need to do a further investigation

768
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 4: on this, but right now, at present, with the input

769
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Speaker 4: from law enforcement, with the statements of families and you know,

770
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: the survivors of these victims or the people who have passed,

771
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 4: all we can say is it does not appear that

772
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 4: there's like one messed up guy doing all this stuff.

773
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: And at least one person has been picked up for murder, right.

774
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, to arrest have been made, I believe, yeah,

775
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: so to arrest have been made, not in any kind.

776
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Speaker 3: Of serial murder charge.

777
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: What may have occurred, with the best of intentions, was

778
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 4: that a ton of people got together on social media,

779
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 4: right and started building a narrative and serving that narrative

780
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: sort of similar to that novel focos Pendulum, wherein people

781
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 4: create a conspiracy, and then it becomes real for them,

782
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: and as real world consequences shout out to the other

783
00:44:53,800 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 4: what eight people who read that? Anyway, this is hope.

784
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: This is a pull back from the ledge right. We

785
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: don't have to immediately assume there are operating serial murderers,

786
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 4: because again, our sample size of serial murderers is relatively small.

787
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 4: It's a very small percentage of any given population, and

788
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: we only catch the ones who mess up.

789
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: It's true, and if we.

790
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Speaker 4: Could guys, just so this is not a just so

791
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: we don't end on too dark a note before we

792
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: relitigate our mutual opinions about the phenomena of what we

793
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: call serial murder and how to get caught or get

794
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: away with it.

795
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Speaker 3: Let's end on a little letter from home.

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00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: We had a guy write to us, or call us actually,

797
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 4: about some shapes on his head.

798
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 8: Hi.

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Speaker 11: Ordinarily I call me Samuel, but if you want today

800
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 11: you can call me the lumpy misshaped potato. And yeah,

801
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 11: you can go ahead and use this on there if

802
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 11: you want. I mostly just wanted to give us thank

803
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 11: you to Ben, as you have given me a line

804
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 11: of inquiry into one of the mysteries of my assistance

805
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 11: the other day when you mentioned phrenology and the malungeon people,

806
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 11: that gave me a line of inquiry into why my

807
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 11: head is shaped so weird. When Ben mentioned the lump

808
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 11: that apparently wellundeon people have uh because my head is

809
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 11: shaped kind of weird like that, I've just always wondered.

810
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 11: And my dad is from out east Kentucky, Tennessee ways,

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00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 11: so uh yeah that might be the case.

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00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 7: So thanks Ben.

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00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember this, of course?

814
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: So I remember this about you for sure, and that's

815
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 5: something that you talk about often, and it's something that

816
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people continue to not known

817
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 5: much about, maybe outside of the mentioned that Elvis Presley

818
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 5: may have been from this.

819
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's like the most famous one. Or Abe

820
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 4: Lincoln is a conspiracy. So the reason we're doing this

821
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: letter from home and thank you so much, Semil, is

822
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: this gives us an excuse to conduct an experiment together.

823
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: Folks.

824
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: It's one we've done previously, but we guarantee you it

825
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: might it might rock your world. It'll at least technically

826
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: shake your head. So if we could all, if you're

827
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: not driving, if you're in a safe place, take your hand,

828
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: whatever your dominant hand may be okay, and then place

829
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: it right behind right where your find where your spine

830
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 4: hits your cranium, and then go a little bit up,

831
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 4: a little bit up right, and then give yourself, give

832
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: yourself a little rub. Feel the topology I have at

833
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: that's for sure.

834
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Speaker 3: Yeah, indentation is going in slightly. Yeah, if there's a bump, well,

835
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: then welcome to the track. Well, what's a bump if

836
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: not two things between an indentation?

837
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: So the idea here it goes back to an earlier

838
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: episode we did and look, uh, phrenology is wack and

839
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: do science. It's racism disguised the science. It was used

840
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: to victimize a lot of what we will call tri

841
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: racial isolates. Definitely used to victimize a lot of other

842
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 4: innocent people along the way.

843
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: But it is.

844
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 4: Interesting because for everyone who just raised their raised their

845
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: hand ever so gently and felt that bump, you gotta wonder,

846
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: right at least that's the myth we are told. It

847
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: is sometimes called the Turkish bump. Weirdly enough, I don't

848
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: think Turkish people call it that. I genuinely don't think

849
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 4: people in Turkey a care. I just wonder, like, do

850
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 4: you guys think there are any to the earlier point.

851
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: Are there any like physical giveaways of a genetic lineage

852
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 4: with that level of specificity or is it just a racism.

853
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: I mean, it's tough, Ben, because there certainly are, you know,

854
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 5: certain characteristics that can be seen in folks from different heritages,

855
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 5: But the way that it's couched often is absolutely as

856
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 5: a slam, or as a slur, or as some.

857
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: Sort of insult.

858
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 5: So it's really hard to even talk about that in

859
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 5: a level headed way without potentially triggering that kind of thinking.

860
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, hmm, Well said, yeah, well put and

861
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 4: we know this is deep water. We know this can

862
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: always be touchy for folks. Part of why we're bringing

863
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: this up at the end is to let you know

864
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 4: about the future. There is a non zero likelihood that

865
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: pseudoscience and this kind of prejudice will be further institutionalized

866
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: by the privatization of your genetic data. Shout out to

867
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: everybody who's spat in a little too for twenty three

868
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: a meter. We've done ads for them before. We don't

869
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: have a problem with the company, but we do have

870
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 4: to realize there are other factors at play. So I

871
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 4: said we were going to end on a good note.

872
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 4: I guess we got a little ominous. Sorry, guys, Is

873
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Speaker 4: that okay? Can we keep this part in or do

874
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Speaker 4: we need to cut it?

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Speaker 3: We absolutely should keep it in.

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Speaker 5: I just think it is a difficult thing to talk

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Speaker 5: about sometimes and perhaps an unnecessary thing to talk about

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Speaker 5: unless it is as an exploration if you are perhaps

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Speaker 5: a someone studying like anthropology for example, right, but then

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Speaker 5: even that information is used negatively by folks to other

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Speaker 5: people where you look at research perhaps and say, oh,

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Speaker 5: this type of bone structure, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a tough one.

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of at a bit of a loss, but

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Speaker 5: I do think it's absolutely a worthy thing to bring up.

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Speaker 3: I hear you. I appreciate that man.

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Speaker 4: Phrenology was weaponized, it was monetized, and it was used

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Speaker 4: to the detriment of civilization overall. So the question then becomes,

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Speaker 4: what is the future of these kinds of pseudosciences or

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Speaker 4: drawing conclusions. We want to hear from you, folks in

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